Bri Hurlburt 0:04
Welcome back to Homeopathy at Home with Melissa. Hey Melissa.
Melissa Crenshaw 0:08
Hey Bri. Excited to talk about … Have a Materia Medica Monday tonight.
Bri Hurlburt 0:13
Yeah, Materia Medica Monday. I think it's like our third one maybe. We're still early in the alphabet, so I know we haven't gotten too far. Before we get to Carbo veg, our remedy for today, we wanted to tell you about a new thing that Melissa is doing. A new live call, called Bridge the Gap. By the time we post this podcast, we probably will have had a couple of them but I know we want to do them regularly so do you want to go ahead and share what that is and how people can get signed up if they want to?
Melissa Crenshaw 0:50
Yes. Great. I've had lots of students, especially those in my mentorship program, ask me to do a call where we can have open conversations about homeopathy, and they can present questions, problems, whatever it is that they're having trouble with as they're learning to take cases and learning to manage cases. And they want to just talk and get their questions answered. I've had lots of people ask me to do this, so my plan is to have one every month. If seasons get busy, maybe we'll skip a month, but it's called Bridge the Gap. You can find it. It's public. If you go to melissacrenshaw.com, under Make Appointment. If you scroll down you'll see Bridge the Gap. You can sign up to attend these live 2-hour calls where we just have open discussion. I want you to come ready with questions, problems, concerns, whatever. I want to help you through what you're dealing with. I don't have a planned subject to teach. It's not going to be a class that I'm leading. You're going to lead it and I'm going to help you in whatever it is that you need.
Do you see that Bri? Are you looking at my website right now and scrolling? Good, thank you. Because it should be public there. Anybody. You don't have to be enrolled in a class of mine. The fact that you're listening to this podcast means you're interested, you are a student of homeopathy. Some students either can't afford or don't want to spend the money on all these classes, so you just gobble up all the free things that we give you right here, which is a lot. We give you a lot of free stuff on the blog, the podcast, and my YouTube channel. What I'm saying is that these live calls are for anybody, any student of homeopathy who wants to learn more and dig deeper.
Are you seeing it on there, Bri?
Bri Hurlburt 3:14
I don't see it right up on your website, but we’ll get it figured out.
Melissa Crenshaw 3:21
Yeah, it is public. Okay, when you go to the website, if you don't see it, then please just email me. Melissa@melissacrenshaw.com, or Bri@melissacrenshaw.com. And we'll just send you a link.
Bri Hurlburt 3:46
It is capped. Is that right? Like at certain people, at a certain amount of people is what I mean?.
Melissa Crenshaw 3:51
Yup, that's right.
Bri Hurlburt 3:55
So that it won't be too gigantic where you won't get to have real discussion. So keep that in mind.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:03
So I see it, Bri. If you scroll down, under the big heading of chronic consultation request, if you scroll down, you see career consulting, monthly membership, free 15 minute, blah, blah, keep going. Then under mentoring you’ll see Bridge the Gap Live Call
Bri Hurlburt 4:24
And this is make an appointment.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:26
Yup.
Bri Hurlburt 4:29
Okay, so under appointments. Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:33
Under Chronic Consultation Request.
Bri Hurlburt 4:36
Yup.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:37
That's the big heading.
Bri Hurlburt 4:38
Oh yeah. It is down there. Mentoring: Bridge the Gap Live Call.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:41
Perfect. Yep.
Bri Hurlburt 4:42
Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 4:43
And then you also see, guys, I have gift certificates. You can buy a consult for somebody else.
Bri Hurlburt 4:52
That would be such an amazing gift and the first one is the biggest one that a lot of people are hesitant to jump into, not having experienced it before, so if you can get them past the first one, it's usually easy after that.
Melissa Crenshaw 5:07
Right. So that would pay for their initial console. The follow ups are not as expensive as the initial console. Maybe you say you want to buy two gift certificates and get them through their initial and their first two follow ups. That's going to get a lot of care. So, there's that.
Okay. Let's jump into Carbo veg. You ready?
Bri Hurlburt 5:34
I'm ready.
Melissa Crenshaw 5:35
Carbo veg is charcoal. It is charcoal. A lot of people take activated charcoal, right? When you have a stomachache. When you have a stomach virus. I see that all the time on my crunchy mama groups where it’s suggested to take activated charcoal, when you want to carry something out of the body. It carries toxins out of the body.
And Carbo veg is also known as the reviver. The reviver. So this person is weak, exhausted. And this can be a chronic exhaustion or an acute exhaustion. My most recent example of this is …
Bri Hurlburt 6:18
Your little chicken?
Melissa Crenshaw 6:19
Oh, I forgot about that one. That was a long time ago.
Bri Hurlburt 6:23
That was a good one, though.
Melissa Crenshaw 6:25
It was a good one. I had the little chick. The baby chick. Not even a week old. And she was not doing well at all. She was very sleepy. And I asked my chicken friends, “What do I do? What is this?” And they said yeah, that's kind of common. Sorry, she's probably not going to make it and I was like Carbo veg.
Bri Hurlburt 6:41
Not if I can help it.
Melissa Crenshaw 6:44
I gave that baby Carbo veg and she came back and she did great.
But my most recent example of Carbo veg is we were going to Carowinds. It was in June. It was 99 degrees. For whatever reason that morning I grabbed Carbo veg and put it in my pocket. It's not a common remedy that I usually carry with me or that I have, that I need. And I got heat exhaustion at Carowinds, which is an amusement park that we have around here. I got heat exhaustion and I would have rather had Belladonna or Glonoinum for the heat exhaustion, but that’s all I had on me was Carbo veg so I thought, “Well yeah. I'm weak. And I feel this exhaustion.” So I took it and it worked great. Just one dose.
So it is the reviver. When you're feeling very weak and exhausted, no matter the reason, you can try carbo veg. It's great for flatulence, lots of gas, especially when there's burning in the digestive tract with gas. Food poisoning, you'll think of Carbo veg. Just like somebody would take activated charcoal if they had food poisoning, you can take the remedy.
Bri Hurlburt 8:05
I have a question because this is sounding a lot like Arsenicum album.
Melissa Crenshaw 8:08
It is. Yup.
Bri Hurlburt 8:10
With the burning and the food poisoning. Do you think maybe let's say you have food poisoning with similar physical symptoms. Maybe the Cargo veg person would be really lethargic compared to maybe an Arsenicum?
Melissa Crenshaw 8:29
Arsenicum has weakness also. Has a great deal of weakness. Yeah.
Bri Hurlburt 8:33
All right. Good. I'm really helpful with my questions.
Melissa Crenshaw 8:37
So what you do is … Well, we're going to go through a lot of key notes of Carbo veg, so then you might be able to differentiate, but why don't you look up Arsenicum and I’ll look up Carbo veg and we'll see what the differences are. Some of the main differences. We won't go through all of it.
Bri Hurlburt 8:56
Yeah, they’re huge.
Melissa Crenshaw 8:58
But really just teaching you right now what you can do at home. So if you have a Materia Medica, which we're in Dr. Murphy's Nature's Materia Medica, fourth edition, and so that's what we're using tonight. I have lots of other Materia Medicas but this is my favorite. I would highly encourage you to buy this. If you don't have one and you want to get Dr. Murphy's, support his wife, Lotus Wellness Cottage. Buy one from her. If she's out or doesn't have any, then support TapRoots, taprootsva.com They usually have Materia Medicas, rather than, you know, Amazon or something like that.
What Bri and I are getting ready to do is differentiate between Carbo veg and Arsenicum album. And the reason we're doing this right now is because everything I just said, just like what Bri said, they sound very much alike. So then how do you decide which one to take? All right?
Carbo veg has air hunger. Asthma, which I know Arsenicum can also have. Belching. Blood loss. This weakness comes from a loss of blood, so then you're thinking of Carbo veg. Labored breathing, chills, coldness, collapse, coma, dehydration, weak digestion, fainting, flatulence, heartburn, hyperthermia, lungs might be congested, stomach disorders and weakness. What does Arsenicum say under clinical?
Bri Hurlburt 10:44
It says anemia, anxiety, burning pains. It does have asthma also. There is a lot. Colitis.
Melissa Crenshaw 10:57
Just the bold stuff.
Bri Hurlburt 10:58
Yeah. Despair. Diarrhea, dysentery. Fear, fever, food poisoning, gastritis, influenza, intermittent fever, nausea. nervousness, restlessness, pneumonia, vomiting, weakness. It says septic fever.
Melissa Crenshaw 11:25
So what I'm already seeing the difference in is there's lots of anxiety with Arsenicum that's not with Carbo veg.
Bri Hurlburt 11:34
And Carbo veg has that … I experienced it, I think maybe post COVID. That feeling of needing to take a deep breath.
Melissa Crenshaw 11:43
Air hunger.
Bri Hurlburt 11:44
Like I'm not getting enough oxygen in my breath.
Melissa Crenshaw 11:47
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Bri Hurlburt 11:50
Yeah, I did use Carbo veg and that worked really well.
Melissa Crenshaw 11:52
Yeah. Let's just do homeopathic. And then we'll leave the specifics to people to look through. You want to do that one?
Bri Hurlburt 12:04
Yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 12:05
So homeopathic, under homeopathic, Carbo veg says imperfect oxidation … and I'm really just reading the bold stuff. There's lots of other stuff here. It's a deodorant, disinfectant and antiseptic. It antidotes the effects of putrid meats or fish, rancid fats, salt or salt meats. So if you're thinking about food poisoning, and you're sick, if you know what made you sick, and if it was rancid meat, putrid meat or fish, rancid fats then you might think of Carbo veg, unless Arsenicum also says that. Hemorrhages. Body becomes blue, icy cold, almost lifeless, must have air. Must have air. They will be fanning themselves really hard. And they want all the windows open because they're so hungry for oxygen. They faint easily. They're worn out. Weak, sick, exhausted, state of collapse. Lack of reaction after some violent attack. Septic conditions. Blueness and decomposition. Flatulence. Burning itching on skin. I know Arsenicum can have itching on skin but the burning is usually in the digestive tract of Arsenicum, but so is-
Bri Hurlburt 13:47
Arsenicum does seem to have a lot of anxiety and restlessness. And when I think of really exhausted, like so worn out that your body is just … Like lethargic could be even different than weakness maybe. Like where Carbo veg you just are not getting oxygenated enough and Arsenicum is pretty restless. Still could be weak. Exhaustion. It says sudden great weakness, but very restless. Emaciation, asthma, fear, suffocation, shortness of breath, food poisoning, dropsy, pale baggy swellings. So I think those are pretty distinct.
Melissa Crenshaw 14:41
For our listeners, that's how you'll determine. When you see two remedies that look a lot alike, you’re going to go through your Materia Medica and decide which one fits best.
Bri Hurlburt 14:56
Okay, something that just came to my mind. I don't know why. Maybe somebody listening needs to hear it. When you hear us talk about Carbo veg, but Arsenicum album album maybe has worked super well for you in the past … we talk about this a lot in our classes. If something worked before, use it. Don't feel like because you hear Carbo veg that you need to switch remedies. Maybe Arsenicum worked a little bit, but not great, and so maybe next time you do try Carbo veg. I know as you learn more remedies, and I can still do this, I suddenly question all my past decisions, like I should have picked this one or should have picked this one. In the moment I feel like praying for God to just give me discernment, even on a remedy, almost always works well. And I just feel confident in one and I'm going to try it.
Melissa Crenshaw 15:54
That’s so good. That's so good. Such a great reminder because Arsenicum album is absolutely going to be my first go because it works for me 100% of the time, when we're talking about digestive issues. Any kind of diarrhea or burning or whatever. So yes, great, great point.
So there's a lot of coldness and blueness in Carbo veg. You know, it said it a lot in the Materia Medica. It’s saying it a lot in our notes here. Carbo veg deals with toxins. If you've been exposed to smoke, you’ve inhaled smoke, or some other kind of toxin that you've inhaled or been exposed to and you're sick because of it, then Carbo veg might be a great one. And you can think of it in septic conditions, bacterial infections, again because it absorbs toxins. Did you have something you wanted to say?
Bri Hurlburt 16:56
I'm just thinking of scenarios. So I did think of one. These are probably totally random. It might be difficult to give a hard answer. But when a baby is born and is having trouble breathing regularly, is that a scenario where you would consider Carbo veg?
Melissa Crenshaw 17:18
I would. I would give it to my baby.
Bri Hurlburt 17:21
Okay. And then I have a friend who got super sick but was riding in a car leaking antifreeze. Like into the car. Like fumes. So would that potentially be that situation where you're just around these toxins you didn't even know? Carbo veg could be a good “detox.” I don't know if that's the proper term.
Melissa Crenshaw 17:45
Yes. There are homeopathic detox programs out there. I don't follow a program but I do have a book about it. Yeah, if you're interested in detoxing with homeopathy, my favorite book is Fighting Fire with Fire by Ton Jassen. I also have as an idea, for a podcast or videos in the future, is Favorite Book. We'll start to talk about some of our favorite books.
Bri Hurlburt 18:18
That's going to be fun. Yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 18:20
I know there are a lot of people who love books. You should see, behind this screen, this computer right here that’s in front of me. Books, books, books, books, books, books.
Bri Hurlburt 18:29
You do always have a book.Like some title of a book. I don't know how you have all the time to read all these books.
Melissa Crenshaw 18:36
I don’t.
Bri Hurlburt 18:37
But you always have a book recommendation.
Melissa Crenshaw 18:39
As long as I have the book, and I can look through it real quick and find the answer, then I'm good.
All right. Carbo veg is oxygenation. That's just so funny. My grandmother could not say the word oxygen and that just reminded me of that. So, oxygenation, where a system is deprived of oxygen. So we've got circulatory conditions, your poor circulation, chilblains. Blood supply is not great, venous and arterial. Not enough oxygen getting around anyway. Function of the heart, cardiac situations. Respiratory, pneumonia, bronchitis. All the things where oxygen needs to be moving through and it's not.
Bri Hurlburt 19:29
So it could be heart or lungs.
Melissa Crenshaw 19:33
Yes.
Bri Hurlburt 19:33
Sorry. That was a kid on the other side of this wall.
Melissa Crenshaw 19:39
You said a kid?
Bri Hurlburt 19:41
Oh yeah. Something hit the wall over there.
Melissa Crenshaw 19:43
Oh, in another room. That’s so funny.
Bri Hurlburt 19:46
Yes, I know. So loud.
Melissa Crenshaw 19:49
Carbo veg is a bit like Pulsatilla, which is an oxygen carrier, as well as Kali sulph. We don't often talk about Pulsatilla being an oxygen carrier but I have talked about Kali sulph before in our cell salt series that we did and now with Carbo veg. Carbo veg is going to be my first thought when we're talking about lack of oxygen.
So if you have bronchitis, the patient is short of oxygen. Oh, okay, so this is not … okay, so a person who's bleeding. If it's bright red blood, then you're thinking more about Aconite, whereas if the blood is not oxygenated and it's dark, then you're going to think of Carbo veg. Even hemorrhaging, hemorrhaging of dark blood. So this is not the bright red blood.
Bri Hurlburt 21:02
So interesting.
Melissa Crenshaw 21:05
Loss of fluids, vomiting, diarrhea, bleeding. Any kind of loss of fluids that makes you weak, you can think of Carbo veg. Heart failure, where the heart isn't working properly and can't pump blood around, oxygen is not being carried around. So carbo veg doesn't fix heart failure. It helps oxygenate the blood.
Bri Hurlburt 21:32
Okay.
Melissa Crenshaw 21:33
Use it on the way to the hospital. You're going to need … you know if you need help, you need help, but Carbo veg can help oxygenate the blood while you're getting treatment or on your way to the hospital.
They have a great desire to be fanned.
Let me back up to heart. When there's a heart problem, then Carbo veg is chilly, because the circulation isn't good, right? And it's blueness. Again, we said the blueness and the coldness and they want fresh air. They want the air. They want the fans. They want the windows open. They want to go to the window. They get breathless. This was a big remedy used in the 1918 flu, which we don't really talk about often.
Bri Hurlburt 22:30
Yeah, we really don't. Yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 22:33
We talk about Gelsemium and maybe Influenzinum. I have it in my viruses guide. I really remember Gelsemium. I don't remember Carbo veg being in there.
Again, really big for digestive problems. Food poisoning. Anemic. Red blood cells carry the oxygen and so if you're anemic, then Carbo veg can help to oxygenate.
Bri Hurlburt 23:07
I know I told you this before we started but I think Carbo veg was one of my gateway remedies for digestive stuff. And I don't remember anymore where I heard it or read it. It was a good case of this one is working. I can tell it's working because it's one of the things that made me stick with homeopathy. When I learned more, Nat phos definitely works better for my husband's heartburn, but cargo veg was one of the remedies that worked really well to settle his stomach in the beginning. We just did a 30c. That's all I knew. Boiron blue tubes. All I knew to do.
Melissa Crenshaw 23:49
Yup. That's a great reminder also of a long time ago when I was just starting out with food intolerances, when I would become intolerant to a new food … Let me just back up and say if you have food intolerances, to stop eating the food is not a cure. You're not fixing the problem. That list is going to grow. Some people it grows really fast and some people grow slow. Anyway, I became intolerant to gluten. Well, I was intolerant to milk. Now when I think about it, I was intolerant to milk since I was at least a teenager but I didn't know that's what was the problem. I continued to drink it and eat it because I didn't know that was the problem. Then I became intolerant to gluten and I stopped the gluten, which didn't cure me. The food list started growing and when I became intolerant to a new food, I would have the most awful burning in the stomach, right in between the breasts, in between the rib cage.
Bri Hurlburt 24:59
Like your sternum, or the bottom of your ribs?
Melissa Crenshaw 25:03
Like in your sternum, right in the middle between. The most awful burning and then like a violent reaction after that. That’s all I can say.
Bri Hurlburt 25:17
Did Carbo veg help with that?
Melissa Crenshaw 25:21
Carbo veg. Yes. It only took me … because I started out with Arsenicum and Arsenicum wasn't helping because that had been my go to, but yes. Carbo veg really helped that.
Ulcers. Ulcers of the elderly. Varicose ulcers, Poor circulation of the veins. Because the circulation is poor, then they get these ulcers and this is dead, dying tissue that stinks. Remember Carbo veg is the reviver. They need oxygen because they have the poor circulatory system. There are other remedies that help with this but Carbo veg is one to think about.
Depletion. Carbo veg has depletion. They're better for burping. They have a lot of flatulence, a lot of gas, and especially when they eat rich foods. Indigestion from eating rich foods. Worse from wine. So this person every time they drink wine, they get worse or feel worse. There’s swelling of the abdomen. Shock, particularly after surgical operations, loss of blood, blood transfusions, you might think of Kali carb or Carbo veg. The face might be pale, breath is cold, clammy perspiration. Mmm, shellfish poisoning. Shellfish poisoning.
Bri Hurlburt 27:13
Is that like shellfish allergy or like you ate shellfish and you got food poisoning from that.
Melissa Crenshaw 27:21
I was thinking food poisoning from shellfish.
Bri Hurlburt 27:22
Okay, that would make sense with the wording, I think.
Melissa Crenshaw 27:27
So Carbo veg can kill that in a couple of hours. If you've ever been really sick from shellfish, then you know what that feels like.
Bri Hurlburt 27:37
That's like another level of sick. If you've never had food poisoning from shellfish, it's pretty crazy.
Melissa Crenshaw 27:46
The mental picture of Carbo veg is a bit depressed, fear of the dark, irritable, lazy. Fear of ghosts is a very specific one. They generally have burning pains, intolerance of fat, milk and rich foods. Can come on very suddenly. Alright, and so that's … when I had the food intolerance, it hit me. I was at work the first time it hit me, which is very unfortunate. So there I was, and yeah, it was a very fast onset.
Bri Hurlburt 28:23
That is the worst. Now, looking back, I wonder-
Melissa Crenshaw 28:24
I’m sorry you guys … Sorry, I think we're lagging a little bit. If you can hear my dog whining in the background, she is. I'm sorry.
Bri Hurlburt 28:31
Oh, I can't hear her. Do you have Nala in there?
Melissa Crenshaw 28:34
I do have Nala in here.
Bri Hurlburt 28:35
Okay, that makes more sense. I was thinking Trigger this time, but I'm like he wouldn't be still that long.
Melissa Crenshaw 28:40
He's very loud when he whines.
Bri Hurlburt 28:43
I bet. He's a little brother.
My husband used to vomit after really rich meals.
Melissa Crenshaw 28:54
Wow.
Bri Hurlburt 28:54
And that was when I was giving him Carbo veg for what I thought was his heartburn. And I never … I mean it would happen maybe like a few times a year and I joke with him about it, because we'd have this really great steak dinner. And it had the red wine reduction. It was so good. And I apparently have a stomach of steel. Didn't bother me at all. And he would throw it up in the middle of the night. All of a sudden he'd feel terrible and feel great. I guess I'll never know because I wasn't aware of what I was doing but I wonder if that has helped his reaction to those rich foods. He hasn't had that happen in a long time.
Melissa Crenshaw 29:37
Okay, so some of you who are listening now might have heard me talk about my husband before and how he is several times every single day, getting heartburn and he has been using baking soda. So he puts baking soda in his bottle of water and he shakes it up.
Bri Hurlburt 29:57
My husband’s done that, too. Yeah.
Melissa Crenshaw 29:59
And he does this two, three a day, every day.
Bri Hurlburt 30:02
It tastes so bad and he does that so much.
Melissa Crenshaw 30:04
And, you know, I've been telling him, “You're in a vicious cycle. You're killing all the acid in your stomach.” And so I did talk him into Carbo veg. Actually, I didn't talk him into it. We were in my truck and he didn't have any baking soda. I had Carbo veg in my kit in my truck. So I said, “Here, take this.” And it worked. And now he's asking for Carbo veg, which is amazing, right? I love it.
Bri Hurlburt 30:33
So is he taking it with him, like doing that instead or is he kind of doing both?
Melissa Crenshaw 30:37
He is doing both when he doesn't have the Carbo veg handy with him. He wants me to make him a liquid. He hates the sugar pellets in his mouth. As soon as I remember to make the liquid for him, then he'll carry that around. He'll do that all the time.
Bri Hurlburt 30:56
See, it's such … that's cool. So I wonder. That's funny that that works for his heartburn too, because I think that's really what I started not knowing. Um, so that's very cool. I can't wait to hear an update on that.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:11
Yeah. So me and Cash, we use Nat phos if we get heartburn. And that works great for us. But yeah, I think Paul tried the Nat phos and he was like, “This is doing nothing.”
Bri Hurlburt 31:23
Maybe that's a case where the trigger foods are different? Yeah, this would be so interesting. We'll have to talk more about that on the side, not bore everybody here, but we'll have to remember to come back with an update because I love those stories.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:39
Yes.
Bri Hurlburt 31:40
Especially people we know, so thank you. I think this is a good one.
Melissa Crenshaw 31:46
Good. Materia Medica Monday.
Bri Hurlburt 31:48
We've said this a couple times. If you have success stories you want to share. I know, Melissa, you have posted about if you want to be interviewed to share your story, we would love to hear some of these stories. Whether you've taken the Gateway courses or Melissa’s Mentorship program and then treated your family or yourself or Melissa has done consults with you, or yourself. Whatever. We would love to hear them.
Melissa Crenshaw 32:16
That's right, just come on. Yeah, just email me or Bri let us know that you want to come on to the show. Often that intimidates people, “Oh, I can't be on.” We're just sitting here having a conversation.
Bri Hurlburt 32:30
We’re just sitting here talking. It's totally fine.
Melissa Crenshaw 32:34
My dogs in the background whining and licking herself.
Bri Hurlburt 32:37
I mean, you guys, if you listen long enough you've heard my kid walk in the door. There's a thunderstorm outside. Just real life over here.
Melissa Crenshaw 32:45
Real life. Just come and have a conversation with us.
Bri Hurlburt 32:49
Thank you guys for listening.
Melissa Crenshaw 32:51
Yes, yes.
Bri Hurlburt 32:52
Thank you, Melissa.
Melissa Crenshaw 32:53
Have a great night. Thank you.