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So thank you."},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2206.41,"endTime":2208.9,"body":"Yeah, absolutely."},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2206.41,"endTime":2208.9,"body":"Thank you for being a part of"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2208.9,"endTime":2214.15,"body":"it. You know, I think one last"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2208.9,"endTime":2214.15,"body":"note here, one key takeaway is"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2214.15,"endTime":2220.27,"body":"just the such great access to"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2214.15,"endTime":2220.27,"body":"amazing individuals. 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And all of our"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2232.36,"endTime":2234.73,"body":"members that are a part of it,"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2234.73,"endTime":2240.1,"body":"all of our partners. It's really"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2234.73,"endTime":2240.1,"body":"only works when we all show up"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2240.1,"endTime":2244.12,"body":"and engage and try. Even if"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2240.1,"endTime":2244.12,"body":"you're not going to get that A+"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2244.54,"endTime":2246.31,"body":"right away. Just show up and"},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2244.54,"endTime":2246.31,"body":"try."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2246.49,"endTime":2249.25,"body":"Yeah, I just got"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2246.49,"endTime":2249.25,"body":"goosebumps when you said that,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2249.31,"endTime":2250.24,"body":"that it's powerful."},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2250.24,"endTime":2250.27,"body":"(laughs)"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2250.27,"endTime":2253.857,"body":"Because you're"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2250.27,"endTime":2253.857,"body":"right. I mean, today's day and"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2253.937,"endTime":2258.8,"body":"age, I may not have ever met"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2253.937,"endTime":2258.8,"body":"you, you being in California, me"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2258.88,"endTime":2263.983,"body":"here in New Jersey and the fact"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2258.88,"endTime":2263.983,"body":"that everybody can come together"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2264.063,"endTime":2268.767,"body":"at such a different level, it is"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2264.063,"endTime":2268.767,"body":"power, and it's helping to"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2268.846,"endTime":2273.471,"body":"reconfigure and do it on more of"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2268.846,"endTime":2273.471,"body":"a positive, authentic and"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2273.55,"endTime":2278.095,"body":"genuine approach as a whole."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2273.55,"endTime":2278.095,"body":"Well, Jen, thank you so much"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2278.175,"endTime":2283.118,"body":"again for being on today. I'm"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2278.175,"endTime":2283.118,"body":"looking forward to the new Mogul"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2283.198,"endTime":2287.902,"body":"release and I'm going to check"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2283.198,"endTime":2287.902,"body":"that out. Maybe we can share"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2287.981,"endTime":2292.526,"body":"some information with our"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2287.981,"endTime":2292.526,"body":"audience too once everything is"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2292.606,"endTime":2297.31,"body":"out there. And, again, thank you"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2292.606,"endTime":2297.31,"body":"so much for joining today."},{"speaker":"Jen Durkee","startTime":2297.31,"endTime":2301.33,"body":"Thanks so much."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2301.33,"endTime":2303.758,"body":"We are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2301.33,"endTime":2303.758,"body":"DefinedTalent coming to you at"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2303.823,"endTime":2305.53,"body":"Top5. Make it a great day."}]}