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The number 23 is a very"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2485.67,"endTime":2486.96,"body":"important number to me."},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2488.22,"endTime":2490.11,"body":"Ooo, then"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2488.22,"endTime":2490.11,"body":"then the next year is going to"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2490.11,"endTime":2491.55,"body":"be a very important year for you"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2490.11,"endTime":2491.55,"body":"(laughs). Woo Hoo!"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2491.58,"endTime":2495.6,"body":"Oh, I am so"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2491.58,"endTime":2495.6,"body":"excited. I'm very excited! So,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2496.56,"endTime":2499.05,"body":"I'm definitely going to check"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2496.56,"endTime":2499.05,"body":"that out. But I want to share it"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2499.05,"endTime":2501.87,"body":"too with everybody. So I'll make"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2499.05,"endTime":2501.87,"body":"sure to post that along with our"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2501.87,"endTime":2505.23,"body":"podcast when we get it up the"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2501.87,"endTime":2505.23,"body":"second week of January."},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2505.44,"endTime":2507.72,"body":"Okay. I will"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2505.44,"endTime":2507.72,"body":"make sure you get all the links."},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2507.0,"endTime":2511.23,"body":"Yay! Yeah. Karen, thank you so"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2507.0,"endTime":2511.23,"body":"much for joining us today. I"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2511.23,"endTime":2514.29,"body":"really appreciate you taking"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2511.23,"endTime":2514.29,"body":"time out of your busy day to"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2514.89,"endTime":2519.57,"body":"share with us you know what it"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2514.89,"endTime":2519.57,"body":"takes to flex the risk taking"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2519.57,"endTime":2523.5,"body":"muscles and you know, launch"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2519.57,"endTime":2523.5,"body":"into a brand new year for"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2523.5,"endTime":2527.76,"body":"everybody a brand new day come"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2523.5,"endTime":2527.76,"body":"January 1 for everybody too, so"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2527.76,"endTime":2529.53,"body":"thank you so so very much."},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2529.56,"endTime":2531.3,"body":"Well, thank you so much for"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2529.56,"endTime":2531.3,"body":"having me, Tara. It's been a"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2531.3,"endTime":2534.96,"body":"wonderful conversation and I"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2531.3,"endTime":2534.96,"body":"have really enjoyed it and I"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2534.96,"endTime":2537.45,"body":"hope it provides some value for"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2534.96,"endTime":2537.45,"body":"people to get their years"},{"speaker":"Karen Ann Bulluck","startTime":2537.51,"endTime":2538.65,"body":"started on the right foot."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2539.16,"endTime":2543.21,"body":"Me too. We are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2539.16,"endTime":2543.21,"body":"DefinedTalent, a DefinedLogic"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2543.24,"endTime":2546.9,"body":"service coming to you at Top5."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2543.24,"endTime":2546.9,"body":"Make it a great day."}]}