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Awesome."},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":872.12,"endTime":874.46,"body":"Talk about"},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":872.12,"endTime":874.46,"body":"employee experience. It's like,"},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":874.94,"endTime":878.66,"body":"you want people that want to"},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":874.94,"endTime":878.66,"body":"work for you, but know that they"},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":878.66,"endTime":883.25,"body":"can take off you know? 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And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":928.04,"endTime":930.56,"body":"I've got my work authorization,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":930.56,"endTime":934.37,"body":"right? 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It's just"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":961.44,"endTime":962.58,"body":"life balance."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":962.58,"endTime":962.64,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":962.88,"endTime":966.39,"body":"Because we are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":962.88,"endTime":966.39,"body":"living and working all within"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":966.39,"endTime":972.51,"body":"the same realm of life. There's"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":966.39,"endTime":972.51,"body":"no separation anymore. 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Ladies,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1007.52,"endTime":1009.86,"body":"thank you for joining us on this"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1009.86,"endTime":1012.29,"body":"DT chat today. Have a great day."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1009.86,"endTime":1012.29,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":1012.83,"endTime":1013.76,"body":"Thank you too."}]}