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Well,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":906.089,"endTime":908.849,"body":"ladies thank you for joining us"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":908.909,"endTime":912.51,"body":"today for a DT chat it's been a"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":908.909,"endTime":912.51,"body":"pleasure having you both on."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":913.349,"endTime":914.369,"body":"Thank you"}]}