{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":0.51,"endTime":4.38,"body":"Welcome back to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":0.51,"endTime":4.38,"body":"DT Chats. Today we've got"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":4.38,"endTime":8.97,"body":"Victoria Wright And Ellie Bright"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":4.38,"endTime":8.97,"body":"joining us to discuss conflict"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":8.97,"endTime":13.2,"body":"resolution at work. How to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":8.97,"endTime":13.2,"body":"address coworker conflict."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":13.26,"endTime":14.64,"body":"Ladies, how are you today?"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":15.47,"endTime":17.9,"body":"I'm good. I can't get over that"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":15.47,"endTime":17.9,"body":"our names rhyme."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":17.93,"endTime":18.89,"body":"I know! 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I'm very excited."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":31.01,"endTime":32.12,"body":"Not planned."},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":32.15,"endTime":32.72,"body":"Yes."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":32.75,"endTime":33.95,"body":"Just happens to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":32.75,"endTime":33.95,"body":"coordinate."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":35.24,"endTime":37.94,"body":"I love it when"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":35.24,"endTime":37.94,"body":"that happens. the serendipity of"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":37.94,"endTime":38.75,"body":"life, right?"},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":39.14,"endTime":39.83,"body":"Yes."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":41.12,"endTime":45.68,"body":"So let's kind of"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":41.12,"endTime":45.68,"body":"dive into this. 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