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And I think it's"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":504.47,"endTime":509.42,"body":"important to be able to"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":510.86,"endTime":514.7,"body":"acknowledge and be aware, I"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":510.86,"endTime":514.7,"body":"think, are two of my biggest"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":514.7,"endTime":518.54,"body":"words, when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":514.7,"endTime":518.54,"body":"conflict, and passive aggressive"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":518.54,"endTime":525.17,"body":"behavior, or just being able to,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":518.54,"endTime":525.17,"body":"like you said Victoria, it take"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":525.17,"endTime":529.49,"body":"the emotion out of it, I think,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":525.17,"endTime":529.49,"body":"is a super huge because, again,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":530.33,"endTime":534.8,"body":"we are working with each other,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":530.33,"endTime":534.8,"body":"probably more than we're seeing"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":534.83,"endTime":539.0,"body":"our families, or our friends."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":534.83,"endTime":539.0,"body":"And so for us to be able to"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":539.0,"endTime":544.88,"body":"communicate and work through any"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":539.0,"endTime":544.88,"body":"and all conflicts is really, at"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":544.88,"endTime":549.38,"body":"the end of the day that's a"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":544.88,"endTime":549.38,"body":"successful team and a successful"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":549.56,"endTime":553.82,"body":"culture that is being fostered"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":549.56,"endTime":553.82,"body":"within, as long as there's that"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":553.82,"endTime":556.1,"body":"safe place for everybody to"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":553.82,"endTime":556.1,"body":"grow."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":557.09,"endTime":557.78,"body":"Absolutely."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":559.4,"endTime":562.79,"body":"Awesome. Well, I'm"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":559.4,"endTime":562.79,"body":"gonna say thank you both, again,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":562.91,"endTime":567.86,"body":"for joining me on DT Talks. It's"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":562.91,"endTime":567.86,"body":"been really wonderful chatting"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":567.86,"endTime":570.83,"body":"with you guys today, and I"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":567.86,"endTime":570.83,"body":"appreciate your time and I'm"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":571.43,"endTime":575.03,"body":"looking forward to what comes of"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":571.43,"endTime":575.03,"body":"our next chats."},{"speaker":"Victoria Wright","startTime":576.05,"endTime":576.65,"body":"Same here."},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":576.77,"endTime":579.02,"body":"Of course. Great"},{"speaker":"Ellie Bright","startTime":576.77,"endTime":579.02,"body":"talk."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":579.06,"endTime":580.77,"body":"All right, ladies,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":579.06,"endTime":580.77,"body":"make it a great day."}]}