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I love"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1581.03,"endTime":1584.45,"body":"learning more. And the fact that"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1584.45,"endTime":1586.91,"body":"it's all wrapped around Legos"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1584.45,"endTime":1586.91,"body":"just makes it even so much more"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1586.91,"endTime":1587.36,"body":"cooler."},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1588.41,"endTime":1590.571,"body":"Awesome."},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1588.41,"endTime":1590.571,"body":"Thank you so much, Tara. Thank"},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1590.627,"endTime":1593.51,"body":"you for having me on today. This"},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1590.627,"endTime":1593.51,"body":"has been fantastic."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1593.51,"endTime":1596.07,"body":"Absolutely."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1593.51,"endTime":1596.07,"body":"Brandon, thank you for taking"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1596.133,"endTime":1599.943,"body":"time out of your busy schedule"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1596.133,"endTime":1599.943,"body":"to meet with us. And again, we"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1600.006,"endTime":1603.254,"body":"will share all of your"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1600.006,"endTime":1603.254,"body":"information. 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Brandon again,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1607.189,"endTime":1610.25,"body":"thank you so much."},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1610.85,"endTime":1611.84,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Brandon Wetzstein","startTime":1610.85,"endTime":1611.84,"body":"much there"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1613.76,"endTime":1616.153,"body":"We are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1613.76,"endTime":1616.153,"body":"DefinedTalent at DefineLogic"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1616.221,"endTime":1619.64,"body":"service coming to you at Top5"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1616.221,"endTime":1619.64,"body":"Make it a great day."}]}