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Funny"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2277.84,"endTime":2280.481,"body":"enough, I also was afraid to"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2280.543,"endTime":2284.352,"body":"reach out to that board member."},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2280.543,"endTime":2284.352,"body":"But I said, You know what, I'm"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2284.414,"endTime":2288.284,"body":"doing it. Senate president and I"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2284.414,"endTime":2288.284,"body":"did it and again, great you're"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2288.346,"endTime":2291.91,"body":"absolutely right. You just need"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2288.346,"endTime":2291.91,"body":"to push through that fear."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2291.91,"endTime":2292.366,"body":"Right? Yeah."},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2292.366,"endTime":2294.79,"body":"And make it happen"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2292.366,"endTime":2294.79,"body":"as best as you can."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2295.3,"endTime":2298.57,"body":"Perfect. Karen,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2295.3,"endTime":2298.57,"body":"thank you so, so much for"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2298.57,"endTime":2302.02,"body":"joining us today. I really"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2298.57,"endTime":2302.02,"body":"appreciate you giving us some of"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2302.02,"endTime":2302.65,"body":"your time."},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2302.65,"endTime":2305.92,"body":"I absolutely"},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2302.65,"endTime":2305.92,"body":"enjoyed it. So, thanks so much."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2305.92,"endTime":2308.08,"body":"Awesome. Have a"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2305.92,"endTime":2308.08,"body":"great rest of your day. Okay."},{"speaker":"Karen Parisi","startTime":2308.08,"endTime":2308.83,"body":"You too."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2310.12,"endTime":2312.233,"body":"We are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2310.12,"endTime":2312.233,"body":"DefinedTalent, a DefinedLogic"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2312.291,"endTime":2315.52,"body":"service coming to you at top"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":2312.291,"endTime":2315.52,"body":"five. Make it a great day."}]}