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But like,"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1430.86,"endTime":1435.45,"body":"include like, hey, you know, I"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1430.86,"endTime":1435.45,"body":"think if we did x, y, z, it"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1435.45,"endTime":1439.74,"body":"could help, you know, increase"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1435.45,"endTime":1439.74,"body":"your followers, what have you"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1440.46,"endTime":1442.65,"body":"doing little things like that."},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1440.46,"endTime":1442.65,"body":"It just shows you done research,"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1442.65,"endTime":1445.2,"body":"you're familiar with the brand,"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1442.65,"endTime":1445.2,"body":"you know, what they've done in"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1445.2,"endTime":1449.01,"body":"the past what they're doing now?"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1445.2,"endTime":1449.01,"body":"Those little things count."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1449.43,"endTime":1451.98,"body":"They do. And I"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1449.43,"endTime":1451.98,"body":"think that's, that's a big"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1452.31,"endTime":1454.89,"body":"takeaway right there, Christina"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1452.31,"endTime":1454.89,"body":"is that the little things do"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1454.89,"endTime":1458.94,"body":"count. 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So, I"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1475.26,"endTime":1478.47,"body":"think I think that that's huge."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1478.47,"endTime":1480.99,"body":"It's the little things that do"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1478.47,"endTime":1480.99,"body":"count at the end of the day."},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1481.08,"endTime":1481.44,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1483.13,"endTime":1486.19,"body":"Excellent. Well, I"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1483.13,"endTime":1486.19,"body":"love these top five tips. You"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1486.19,"endTime":1489.4,"body":"know, stay away from the"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1486.19,"endTime":1489.4,"body":"standard boring resume layouts,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1489.7,"endTime":1494.41,"body":"be real , show up in and bring"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1489.7,"endTime":1494.41,"body":"your authenticity to the table"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1495.04,"endTime":1499.84,"body":"using keywords. Keyword searches"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1495.04,"endTime":1499.84,"body":"are huge right now with job"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1499.87,"endTime":1503.47,"body":"within the job market and, and"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1499.87,"endTime":1503.47,"body":"trying to look for the right fit"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1503.47,"endTime":1508.57,"body":"for the right role. Your online"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1503.47,"endTime":1508.57,"body":"presence,definitely important."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1508.96,"endTime":1511.81,"body":"And hey, you never know maybe"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1508.96,"endTime":1511.81,"body":"somebody can come up with"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1511.81,"endTime":1514.24,"body":"another wild card that nobody's"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1511.81,"endTime":1514.24,"body":"done before."},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1514.42,"endTime":1516.67,"body":"Yeah, I'd like"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1514.42,"endTime":1516.67,"body":"to hear about it."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1517.63,"endTime":1520.24,"body":"I think these are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1517.63,"endTime":1520.24,"body":"all great tips and, you know,"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1520.24,"endTime":1524.2,"body":"Christina, I am so excited that"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1520.24,"endTime":1524.2,"body":"you were able to find time out"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1524.2,"endTime":1526.18,"body":"of your busy day to join us."},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1526.84,"endTime":1527.92,"body":"It's my"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1526.84,"endTime":1527.92,"body":"pleasure."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1528.23,"endTime":1531.65,"body":"We appreciate it"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1528.23,"endTime":1531.65,"body":"so much and I'm looking forward"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1531.65,"endTime":1537.44,"body":"to many more conversations about"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1531.65,"endTime":1537.44,"body":"getting our foot out there and"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1537.44,"endTime":1540.71,"body":"helping individuals helping our"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1537.44,"endTime":1540.71,"body":"audience really make make a"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1540.71,"endTime":1541.55,"body":"presence."},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1541.91,"endTime":1543.71,"body":"Yeah. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Christina Kiel","startTime":1541.91,"endTime":1543.71,"body":"so much."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1544.23,"endTime":1546.96,"body":"Excellent. We are"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1544.23,"endTime":1546.96,"body":"DefinedTalent, a DefinedLogic"},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1546.96,"endTime":1550.35,"body":"service coming to you at Top5."},{"speaker":"Tara Thurber","startTime":1546.96,"endTime":1550.35,"body":"Make it a great day."}]}