Why the Swiss Mountain Village of Wengen Belongs on Every Switzerland Travel Itinerary

Wondering how to navigate the country, where to stay, or what sights are truly worth visiting on your trip to Switzerland? If you’re dreaming of waterfalls, mountain views, and stress-free adventures, this is for you. 

In this episode, we explore the charming Swiss mountain village of Wengen, located in the heart of the Jungfrau Region. This car-free destination is easy to reach via the scenic train to Wengen from Lauterbrunnen, one of the most underrated scenic train rides in the country. From amazing views of Staubbach Falls to breathtaking hikes at Männlichen, you'll learn exactly why Wengen is a must-add to your itinerary.

We also dive into essential Switzerland travel tips for using the Swiss Travel Pass and making the most of Swiss public transport, especially for those looking to travel Switzerland by train. If you're considering excursions to Jungfraujoch (aka the Top of Europe) or want to explore the region’s famous Männlichen cable car, you’ll hear practical advice that’ll save you time and effort.

Plus, we’ll explore what makes Wengen a special year-round destination, from its accessible hikes and winter sports to its charming village traditions like folklore nights with yodeling and dancing, all part of the rich local character that makes Swiss culture so memorable.

Whether you’re planning your holidays to Switzerland or are just gathering ideas for your dream itinerary, this is your one-stop episode for smart, scenic, and simple Switzerland trip planning!

Safe travels,

Carolyn

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Carolyn Schönafinger: Carolyn, welcome to the Holidays to Switzerland podcast. If you're planning a trip to Switzerland, this is the podcast for you. I'm your host, Carolyn Schönafinger, the founder of HolidaystoSwitzerland.com , and in each episode, my expert guests and I share practical tips to help you plan your dream trip to Switzerland. You'll get helpful advice about traveling around Switzerland and hear about the most popular destinations, as well as some hidden gems, and we'll introduce you to plenty of wonderful experiences that you can enjoy as part of your Swiss vacation. Each episode is packed with expert tips, itinerary ideas, and inspiration to help make your Swiss vacation planning easy. So, let's dive in. Hi there. Welcome to this week's episode.

Today, we're returning to one of the most popular regions in Switzerland, the Jungfrau Region. This episode is part of my live on location video podcast series. We've been recording live from some of the most spectacular locations in Switzerland and soaking up the breathtaking scenery throughout each episode. If you'd love to see the images too, you can watch all these video episodes on my YouTube channel. I'll include a link in the show notes, or you can just search for Holidays to Switzerland on YouTube.

In this episode, we're riding on what is, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful train rides in all of Switzerland, and we'll be exploring the car-free village of Wengen. If a visit to the Jungfrau Region is part of your Swiss travel plans, this episode is a must-listen and a must-watch, so let's get into it.

Hello, everybody, and welcome to another of our live on location video podcasts from Switzerland. And today, we're in one of my very favorite destinations, and we're going to be going on a beautiful little tour. Thanks to my guest today, Kelly Joss from Jungfrau Region Tourism. Welcome, Kelly.

Kelly Joss: Hello, Carolyn. Welcome to Lauterbrunnen.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Thank you very much.

Kelly Joss: So my name is Kelly, and I work for the Jungfrau Region. Today, I will take you on a trip to Wengen. We are standing here at the train station Lauterbrunnen and are going towards this train now because it's leaving in two minutes.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, wonderful. So maybe while you're getting on the train, perhaps you can find a seat there. Perhaps you can tell us a little briefly just about Lauterbrunnen before we set off on our train ride.

Kelly Joss: Yes, sure. So Lauterbrunnen is a small mountain village, actually only around 800 residents. You will see it later on the train. I have a window seat. I can show you the waterfalls when we are on the way filling in. But, um, yeah, it's famous for its waterfalls. So we have 72 waterfalls in total, and one of them is the Staubbach waterfall. Yeah. So people are visiting because of the beautiful landscapes, the rock plates, the waterfalls. Even Goethe was inspired by Lauterbrunnen to write one of his poems about the Staubbach waterfall, and also the landscapes in Lord of the Rings were inspired by the landscapes of Lauterbrunnen. So it's very, yeah, special.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. It's absolutely gorgeous, isn't it? I mean, that train that you've just boarded has come from Interlaken, and I think anyone who's on that train as they arrive into Lauterbrunnen through the valley, they're just in awe of the scenery. It's just incredible. And as you said that the waterfalls are particularly spectacular.

Kelly Joss: Yes, so you take the train from Interlaken, that's the actual train on the opposite side to Lauterbrunnen. In Lauterbrunnen, you can switch to the train to Wengen. And of course, like everywhere in Switzerland, the timetables are very connected, so you arrive here and switch on the other track.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. Great. So how often do the trains come from Interlaken to Lauterbrunnen and then continue on to Wengen?

Kelly Joss: Every half an hour. Sorry, I have to look for my ticket in case someone is coming.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yes, you better travel with a ticket. We definitely want you to have the correct ticket.

Kelly Joss: Yes, um, so it's every half an hour from Interlaken to Lauterbrunnen and then the connection to Wengen. So it's quite, quite regular.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's very convenient. So speaking of tickets, what sort of tickets can people use on the trains? I mean, obviously, they can buy just a regular ticket, but a lot of people travel with a Travel Pass. Are those travel passes valid on this train from Lauterbrunnen to Wengen? Yes.

Kelly Joss: So if you have the Swiss Travel Pass, it's valid until Wengen, because Wengen is also a public transport system, because it's a place where people are living. For many guests in our Swiss Travel Pass, they can go in through Wengen. And then for the region, there's the Jungfrau Travel Pass, which includes the whole Jungfrau layers network, and also the Berner Oberland Pass.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, fantastic. Well, I can see you moving there. So maybe you'd like to point out some of the beautiful scenery. Firstly, as we pass through Lauterbrunnen.

Kelly Joss: Yes, so in a few minutes or seconds, you will see the Staubbach Waterfall. And you can see, I will point it out again when we are going around the corner. We can be seen in the desert. But yeah, even just the train ride, it's just a 10-minute ride from Lauterbrunnen to Wengen. But even this is really spectacular, because you have a great view down to the valley.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yes, I know a lot of people, when they come to Switzerland, they particularly want to go on one of the famous panoramic trains. But for me, personally, I think the Lauterbrunnen to Wengen train ride is one of the most scenic in Switzerland. Wow. Look at that waterfall.

Kelly Joss: So that's a very famous view with the church. So there's a new point up the hill then. Yeah, you have the church and the waterfall. You don't really see a lot of the waterfall now, but in summer, there's less water, but it's still, still a great view. Just as you said. Of course, panoramic trains are very famous and popular, but yeah, you can hop on many different trains.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, and look how green it is. It's, yeah, it's just amazing. Now, this is quite a short train ride, isn't it? So how long does the journey up to Wengen take?

Kelly Joss: So it takes around 11 minutes. And as you see, we are, we're climbing up a bit. 

Carolyn Schönafinger: Now I notice you're sitting on the right hand side of the train there for the ride up from Lauterbrunnen to Wengen. Is that your tip for people who are doing that upward journey?

Kelly Joss: Actually it's nice on both sides, but if you're sitting on the right hand side, you have the view on the Staubbach Fall but as the train is doing a curve or is changing directions, actually you have a nice view on both sides. Because if you're sitting on the left side, you didn't have the nice view down to the valley.

So it's actually, yeah, it's beautiful on both sides.

So we have now arrived at Wengen station. As you can see, that's the train arriving here. So it's high season at the moment, in the middle of July, so many people visiting. And yeah, I'm gonna take you on a tour to the village now.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, so from Wengen, apart from going back down the valley to Lauterbrunnen and then on to Interlaken, do the trains continue on up the mountain? Don't they? Where do they go to?

Kelly Joss: Yes, exactly. So this train I was on now, this is continuing this way up to Kleine Scheidegg, and from there, you can switch on the train to go down on the other side to Grindelwald. Or from Kleine Scheidegg, you can continue your journey up to Jungfraujoch, Top of Europe.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, fantastic. All right. So why have you chosen Wengen as the location for today's video? What's so good about Wengen that you wanted to show us around?

Kelly Joss: Yes, so Jungfrau Region includes five different villages. So that's Wengen, Grindelwald, Lauterbrunnen, the Haslital and Mürren. And Wengen is special because on one hand, it's a car-free village, so there's no road leading up to Wengen. I just want to show you why it's so special, why it's a beautiful mountain village, and that it is also easy to reach, even if it's car-free, and there are also some new hotel openings. So there's a lot going on in Wengen, and I think it's also a bit less known in the world, on the other hand. So I just wanted to point out what makes Wengen so special.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, great. Well, yeah, looking forward to the tour, yes.

Kelly Joss: So we are at the train station. Now, Wengen is quite small. So here on this side, we have the supermarket, the Coop. Then if we turn left here, that's actually the main village street already. So Wengen has around 1,000 all year residents. That means that in peak season, especially in winter, there are many more people living in Wengen, because with all the holiday apartments and hotel guests, at some times, there are even around 10,000, I think 10,000 people living in Wengen. So that's quite, yeah, crazy, because, yeah, it's such a small place. And of course, it's very popular in winter for skiing, and it's also famous for the Lauberhorn races. That's when the most people are visiting Wengen. So the Lauberhorn downhill race is one of the most famous and also most challenging downhill ski races, and it is taking place every January. So that's when a lot of people are visiting Wengen. I'm going to show you the center of the village, more or less. We see at the moment, it's quite busy with tourists visiting. On this side, I'll walk a bit further, so you can see this little wooden house over there is the tourist center. The tourist center is in the middle of the village, and during summer, it's open from 9 am to 9 pm, so quite a long time where you can get some information about what are the best hiking spots, or when people go skiing. And on this side, or also, which also belongs to the tourist center, is the ice rink. Of course, the ice rink is not open during summer, but there's also a tennis court. You see a little playground. So, yeah, it's a very nice village center. So that's a tourist office on this side. And on this side we have the cable car, which goes up to Männlichen.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, so Männlichen, that's quite well, probably a bit lesser known mountain excursion than some of the others in the region. Can you tell us a bit about Männlichen?

Kelly Joss: So there are two cable cars going up. One is this one, the cable car Wengen-Männlichen. That's the starting point, and it takes you up there. So. Männlichen is a great place in summer to go hiking, and in winter, it's a skiing area. The cable car operates from half past eight in the morning until five o'clock in the evening, and the ride only takes six minutes, so it's quite accessible from Wengen. And I don't know if you can see the advertisement, but they also offer the Royal Ride and the Royal Walk. The Royal Ride is a very fun offer because you pay five francs extra, and then you're allowed to stand on top of the gondola. So you are outside, on top of the gondola, and you can enjoy the surroundings. And it's a really special feeling. And yeah, it's called Royal Ride because you feel like a king or a queen when you're standing on the gondola. And then up on Männlichen, yeah, it's a great starting point to do several hikes. One of them is the Royal Walk. So the Royal Walk takes you from the station to a little viewing point, or the panoramic hike to Kleine Scheidegg. So as I told you before, the train takes you to Kleine Scheidegg as well. So you can take the cable car up to Männlichen to hike to Kleine Scheidegg and then take the train down to Wengen again. So you have a little, a little round trip.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, and that's an amazing hike to do. In summer, the views along the way are just, yeah, breathtaking. Yeah.

Kelly Joss: It's beautiful. And in winter, of course, you take this, this cable car, to go up the mountain and you're in the middle of the ski area, because if you take the train, it takes you a bit longer. So that's the quickest way actually to go to the ski area. And Männlichen and Kleine Scheidegg are connected in one ski area. So you can start today at Männlichen, ski down to Wengen or Grindelwald, and then go to Kleine Scheidegg and end up in Wengen again. So it's all very connected.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, great. And there's a really good playground for children at Männlichen too, isn't there?

Kelly Joss: Yes, there's a big playground for kids. And there are also some themed trails that start from Wengen. I think the cow is called Lily. So Lily takes you on a hike, or there's the Apple Fritter Way, which takes you down to Brandegg, where you can bake some apple fritters too. So, yeah, there are many different offers as well for families.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Great. So that's a must-do mountain excursion for anyone visiting.

Kelly Joss: Yes, when you're visiting, of course, yeah, I can also show you behind the cable car station. Another thing that's great for families is the crazy, it's called Crazy Mini Golf. It's a mini-golf course that's inspired by the Lauberhorn races. So every, how do I say, every stop, every hole, has a little history or little story about the Lauberhorn races. So there are different elements in the race, which they pick up in the mini-golf course as well. So that's here.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, yeah, so again, right in the center of the village.

Kelly Joss: Yes. So go up. It's a little bit better. So the start is like in the ski race, a little start house, and then you also see the train going up. And, yeah, so it's a mini-golf course inspired by the Lauberhorn races, which is quite nice. So it's a bit different than the other mini-golf course.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, sure. And do people rent the equipment, the clubs and the balls? Do they get those from the tourist office?

Kelly Joss: Yes, you can get those in the tourist office. I'm not sure how much you pay for it. I think, like the entrance is free, but you have to pay for the equipment.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, okay, so where are you going to take us next?

Kelly Joss: Yeah, so I'm just passing by Dorfladen. Dorfladen is actually a village shop in Wengen. So there's the supermarket which you passed before, the Coop supermarket is quite famous. There are many Coop city markets around Switzerland where you can get all your regular groceries. The village shop is also a grocery store, but you can get some more, like special stuff. There's homemade bread every day. They sell local cheese, which is produced at the Alp Wengernalp. And they also offer homemade cheese and fondue, so with fondue cheese.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, okay, so very local specialties.

Kelly Joss: Yes, exactly. Then when we follow the main street, we pass by the Hotel Braunbär. The Hotel Braunbär is very new, so it has just reopened this year in January, and it was formerly known as the Hotel Alpine in Wengen. So the hotel itself is new, but all the rooms have been renovated and it has been reopened as the Hotel Braunbär. And it's a four-star hotel that offers around 80 rooms, and additional to the rooms, they have the restaurant, and as well, we have the sign here, the Grillkota, which they have in the garden. So the Grillkota is like a grill hut with a fireplace in it where you can enjoy a nice fondue or raclette evening. And they also have a big spa area with an indoor swimming pool and an outdoor sauna. So it's a very nice hotel in Wengen.

Carolyn Schönafinger: And right, yeah, very, very central, yeah, yeah.

Kelly Joss: It's really right in the middle of the village.

Carolyn Schönafinger: It's such an authentic Swiss village, isn't it? When you look around there, with all the beautiful wooden chalets and the flowers in summer and the green meadows, it's, it's just so typically Swiss.

Kelly Joss: Yeah, exactly. So there are some hotels, not many, many. I think it's around 16 hotels, but it doesn't look like there are so many hotels, because they really fit in the scenery and the surroundings. So that's really nice. And there are some, yeah, all the nice wooden houses and rental holiday apartments. So it's a really authentic small Swiss village, I would say.

Carolyn Schönafinger: And I guess some mountain villages in Switzerland, it can be a bit more difficult to get to in the off seasons, because they're accessed by cable cars, and there might be times when they're closed for maintenance, but that's not an issue with Wengen. Is it? Because, as you said before, a lot of people actually live there year round, and the train operates all the time.

Kelly Joss: Yes, exactly. So you can access it all year round. So the train runs all year round, because people are living here, so they can just cut off the train. But some cable cars have maintenance work in the off seasons when they are closed. So for example, the Männlichen cable car we saw before, they close between winter and summer season from middle of April until end of May, and also between summer and winter season, from the end of October until middle of December. But there's still a lot to do, even if some cable cars are closed, because there are some activities you can do all year round, like the Jungfraujoch is accessible 365 days a year. And as well the Schilthorn cable car, which you can reach from Wengen down to Lauterbrunnen and then to the other side to Stechelberg at Mürren, there's the Schilthorn cable car, which is also operating 365 days a year. So even in the low season, you have a lot of different things to explore in and around Wengen.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Now you have come up a bit of a hill there. Made you work hard. Sorry about that.

Kelly Joss: Okay, so I've already reached, like, almost the end of the main road, and I'm taking you here to a beautiful viewpoint at the church. So there's a fun fact about Wengen, because Wengen has three different churches. This is the Reformed Church, and there's also the English church and the Roman Catholic Church. I don't want to show you the church in first place, but the beautiful viewpoint. So it's already beautiful from here, because you can see the Jungfrau mountain and the valley down to Lauterbrunnen, and if you continue walking with you. So that's a really Instagrammable place. Here, it's a little bench right down. Oh, there was a proposal. Oh my gosh, someone getting proposed. I don't want to disturb them, but maybe we can.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Wow. What a place to be proposed to. You could not say no, oh, my goodness.

Kelly Joss: Well, yeah, it's such a nice place that even people get proposed to here. So I'm just walking down a bit on the side, so I'm not going to disturb them. What a timing.

Carolyn Schönafinger: We don't want to record their special moment.

Kelly Joss: That's really very fun. So, yeah, the house is in the way a bit, but you can see it. Very beautiful view down into the village of Lauterbrunnen as well, with the Staubbach Waterfall and then on the opposite side. So the train station would be behind this house. There you see, I don't know if you can see it, but there's a little cable car going up to Grütschalp, and from Grütschalp, you can take the train to the other side to Mürren. So up the hill on the other side, there is Mürren. You can also reach Mürren from down in the valley. So at the end of the valley there is Stechelberg, and from there is the cableway taking you up to Mürren and then up to Schilthorn. So yeah, it's a really beautiful view on the Lauterbrunnen Valley from here.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Now, we briefly mentioned Grindelwald before, basically to get from Wengen to Grindelwald, there are a couple of ways, isn't there? So that people could go back down to Lauterbrunnen on the train, continue towards Interlaken, but change trains at Zweilütschinen and then take another train to Grindelwald. Or they can go via cable car. So how would they do that?

Kelly Joss: Yeah, so actually, there are three different ways. Because on one hand, you can take the train down, as you said, and then change in Zweilütschinen and go up on the other side again. Or they take the train to Kleine Scheidegg and then from Kleine Scheidegg down to Grindelwald or up to Männlichen, and then on Männlichen, you have to do a little walk because the other cable car station is a bit further down. And then you can take the cable car down to Grindelwald from Männlichen. So it's all very connected between Wengen and Grindelwald with different cable cars and trains.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. So you can do a round trip, and maybe you could even do two different round trips. Because, as you said, there's three different ways.

Kelly Joss: Yeah, it's very easy. If you stay in Grindelwald, you can still visit Wengen or even Mürren, because it's all quite close. And from Wengen go up the mountain and down to Grindelwald, or down to Lauterbrunnen, and then to Mürren. So it's all very easy to reach because it's very well connected.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah. But I think if you were staying in Wengen and were staying in one of those beautiful hotels, you're probably just happy to sit there and look at that view all the time. So I think people should go and do a mountain excursion, but if they don't, they're still going to get those incredible views, aren't they?

Kelly Joss: Yeah, really. So a lot of people think, or also it's true, that it's a very nice location or destination for very active people, because you can do hiking, mountain biking, skiing, trail running, also different adventure activities, whatever. But even if you're not very keen to walk, or if you're not very good at walking because we're a bit older or whatever, it's still nice to just stroll through the village. And because of all the different cable cars and trains, it's very accessible. So even if you're not very, very active, it's nice to just admire the view and enjoy the surroundings.

Carolyn Schönafinger: So what's your favorite thing to do in Wengen?

Kelly Joss: That's a good question. So I really like just Wengen itself to, like I said before, to walk around. But Männlichen actually is one of my favorite places to go to Wengen, and especially do the panorama hike to Kleine Scheidegg, and then go down by train, so you have a nice round trip. So that's a really nice thing to do in Wengen. And of course, in winter, it's a great place to go skiing as well. So now I'm walking a bit further to the almost the end of the street because I want to show you another hotel. So the hotel we are walking to now is the Grand Hotel Belvedere, and it's a five-star hotel. Actually, it's the first five-star hotel in Wengen and the second in the whole region, because there's only one other five-star hotel in Grindelwald. And the Grand Hotel Belvedere combines two different buildings. So previously it was two different hotels, the Belvedere and the Wengenhof, and they renovated both of the hotels and reopened it as one five-star hotel with a total of 90 different rooms and two restaurants and one big spa area in between. So that's the Grand Hotel Belvedere. So there's one building down here and one building up there, and it both belongs together. They have opened this spring, but I think they're still doing some building or renovations at the spa area.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, you did mention earlier, when you were at the station that Wengen is a car-free village, and we can see you've walked a little distance. So if people are a bit worried that they're going to have to carry their luggage all the way to the hotel, is there an option for them?

Kelly Joss: Yes. So there are many hotels, or almost all of the hotels, that offer luggage transport or even shuttle service if you don't want to walk, especially when you are here at the Grand Hotel Belvedere, which is a bit further away from the station. You can just call them or tell them, before you come here, that you want to be picked up, and they're going to pick you up. So it's almost no cars, but there are some shuttle services from the hotels, and there's even a taxi service in Wengen, and so it's still very easy to get around, even if you're not into walking, or if you're not able to walk some distances.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Okay, fantastic. So if you have one final tip or a final reason that you'd like to give to our audience as to why they should consider staying in Wengen when they plan their trip to the Jungfrau Region?

Kelly Joss: Yes. So of course, as I said, it's a great place to be outdoors, to enjoy hiking, skiing and all the different activities. But I think it's also nice to visit Wengen because of the tradition and the culture, because you come to Wengen and you see that it's a really, real village, and you can really dive into the culture and traditions. What I wanted to add now, I remember it. They also do folklore nights every two weeks in Wengen, where you can see traditional dancing and yodeling. So I think it's the things like this, or the local cheese and, yeah, these local traditions and cultures, which really make it a special place to visit because it's very accessible. Yeah, just a lovely mountain village to stay at.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Absolutely. All right. Well, for anyone watching who wants to get more information about Wengen, where can they find that online?

Kelly Joss: Yes, so you can find more information on our website. That's JungfrauRegion.Swiss. Or, of course, also contact me, and we also have social media accounts. You also find us on Facebook and Instagram if you want to get inspired with some more content and see some beautiful pictures about the Jungfrau Region.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Yeah, I'm sure everyone is looking forward to seeing more beautiful images from Wengen and the Jungfrau Region, after the beautiful scenery you've already shown us today. So thank you very much, Kelly, for the fantastic tour. It's been wonderful, and I'm glad we managed to find the sunshine. So thank you for the great timing.

Kelly Joss: Yes, me too.

Carolyn Schönafinger: Everyone watching, don't forget that we'll have more of these live on location videos coming soon. And if you haven't seen the previous ones, make sure you go back and have a look at those. We're touring some beautiful destinations in Switzerland, just like we did today with Kelly in Wengen. So subscribe to the Holidays to Switzerland channel on YouTube, and I look forward to seeing you next time.

Choosing a base in the Jungfrau Region is something that many travelers struggle with, but as Kelly has shown us today, Wengen is a great choice. It has the benefit of being a car-free village. It's perfect for families and those looking for a smaller village vibe and the views, well, they're just unforgettable. You can hear more about Wengen in previous podcast episodes, including episode 133, where I chatted with Wengen local James Wilson, for a deep dive into the five main towns and villages in the Jungfrau Region. I'll include a link to that episode and other episodes about the region in the show notes.

Also in the show notes, you'll find a link to my Switzerland Travel Planning Starter Kit and Guide. This features my 10-step guide to planning your Swiss vacation and lots of other tips to help you plan your dream trip. So make sure you grab a copy if you've decided that Wengen is the ideal base for your stay in the Jungfrau Region, but you'd rather have a Swiss travel specialist make your accommodation and rail bookings on your behalf, take a look at the rail packages available from my partner, Switzerland Travel Center. They work with a number of hotels in Wengen, including the two that Kelly introduced us to today, and they offer the Holidays to Switzerland audience a 5% discount when you use our promo code when booking that promo code, which, by the way, is HTSWISS, and further details about the rail packages are also in the show notes. The show notes can be found at holidaystoswitzerland.com/episode145. Thank you so much for listening today until next week. Tschüss!