S3E07 - Songs on Trial

Our final recording of 2022 is the season finale of The Cacophony Sessions Podcast. Dan joins Martyn, Jim, Alex and Tom for a deep dive into ten of our own personal favourites. From Funkadelic to Run-DMC to Nirvana to Insane Clown Posse, this eclectic discussion covers a variety of different genres and we've made a playlist available via Apple Music so you can follow along with the tracks here.

Elsewhere, discover which band is the Australian Duran Duran; see Jim's new spicy content; unveil FOUR undeniable bangers and allow us to answer the most pertinent question in pop culture history - would Twin Peaks have been better if Limp Bizkit did the music?

The full audio is available for free wherever you listens to your podcasts. Watch the opening for free on YouTube and join our Patreon for just £5 a month, where you can now watch the entire two-hours in glorious Technicolor! As always, check out our Blog for updates, and hit us up on Twitter and Facebook if you want to get in touch. We'll see you again this month for Album of the Year 2022.

Transcript

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 0:00

I love how Martin's got his, set up now

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so that we

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can see his guitars

audiomartynley11211506414 0:04

Absolutely, man. background. I'm doing a Rick bdo

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here.

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I'm like,

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I like the idea of like, they're all plastic and we

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we just I'm, I'm,

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all couple cuts.

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I'm just disappointed you

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haven't

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got your pedal board set up with your

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actual mic

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so you can just add

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like,

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delay

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to your podcast voice

audioAlexEvens21211506414 0:24

I think I'm more blown away that mine's got headphones on. Do you have headphones on last

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 0:27

he did. He

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He

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yeah, I've got earphone in

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Yeah, yeah.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 0:32

It's just that becau from the angle that we he was filming himself at, they just looked like a varicose Fein across his

audiomartynley11211506414 0:42

Well, I'm, I'm not that age now, so

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the stains are a

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are a reality for me.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 0:46

Yeah. I'm most surprised you haven't got a blue, red,

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smile. He's dick. Order

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:15

Order Court is now in session. I am Lord's Justice Golden epu, otherwise known as Dan Whittle. And welcome to the final episode of season three of the Cacophony Sessions podcast. this episode is Songs on Trial, A deep dive of 10

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tracks

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picked by our panel of five this evening. The

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other four, well,

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let me introduce them. It's Tom.

audioTom31211506414 1:38

Fish Don't Blink, which is the main eye defense. If you're ever trying to get the eye out of a fish and it blinks, it may be a lion,

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It's funny getting worse..They're they're, but I'm running outta them. Like it's just so

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:53

much bewilderment on everyone's,

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I was

audioTom31211506414 1:55

trying to find in about a boy quote, but there aren't any funny ones. So I went back to David Mitchell and I realized I've done most of them.

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So it

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was like, I'm now like dredging the bottom of the barrel. I'll have

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to think of

audioTom31211506414 2:05

new game for season

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four.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 2:07

Yep. Let's

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do that. Ow.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 2:11

Do you believe in love at first sight or should I walk by again?

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Oh God. Shamble.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 2:22

Jim

audioJim51211506414 2:23

Society deems driving drunk, unacceptable. That's the society we live in. We have to accept those rules.

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What

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 2:40

Yeah.

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Anne Martin.

audiomartynley11211506414 2:43

Uh, hi. Hi Mine, Um,

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Martin's my favorite one.

audiomartynley11211506414 2:47

uh, it's, it's bad. Uh, I went to buy some camouflage trousers cuz they're all the rage these days, but I couldn't find any.

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Oh,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 2:57

oh,

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because,

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oh,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 2:59

no.

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no.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 3:02

That was actually really clever.

audiomartynley11211506414 3:04

uh, yeah, Yeah. Yeah. You get it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 3:06

Oh

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because they came afl, you

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Cause they're sold out. Cause they're really popular.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 3:10

Yeah.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 3:14

I need some new panelists.

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I think What,

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we are not here

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tonight.

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It in search of undeniable bangers or undeniable clangers. No, we're not

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even here to rank these songs

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to close the year. I thought we just have a pr a, a, chance to bring

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two songs each

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to the table

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and get all knocked up in some musical crannies.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 3:41

Ew. Uh, uh. But first hit

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the shit Tingle It's time. But does it slap

audioJim51211506414 3:56

I've definitely got one. I've definitely got one, but

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go for it, Tim. It better not be Morbid. Angel. We'll keep

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banging this drum

audioJim51211506414 4:07

Urban Collective. The key. The secret.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 4:10

Oh, nice.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 4:12

I

audiomartynley11211506414 4:12

Well, that actually it's a really good one. Yeah. I got the key. Okay. got the Secret. That

audioAlexEvens21211506414 4:18

Oh, that

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that one. Yeah. I mean, it's

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good.

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It's a think I've ever, I

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think I've ever had an inclination to ever listen to it when it's not on the radio. I mean, it's all right. Or I'll give it here. Why

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not Yay.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 4:42

Ah, success. we're gonna find out what people have been up to and, let's start this week with

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Alex

audioAlexEvens21211506414 4:51

Oh, I was dreading this question. Cause I've been to, up to, Abso absolutely nothing. genuinely nothing. I've just been doing housework, playing Call of Duty. That's about it.

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Like What the new one?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 5:03

no, no, I'm too poor to get the new one. I'm, I'm on Vanguard. So finding a, finding a matchup that takes about 10 minutes now cause all the other bastards have moved on. But I'm enjoying myself, You know, is still elusive.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 5:21

he doesn't take our calls anymore. Martin's

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tried to,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 5:24

he had like 128 missed calls from Martin. He's not, He's not, he's not, passing his number

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on anymore. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 5:31

do they call that thing? There's that legal thing where you're not allowed to contact someone. That's what bathroom took out on me You know?

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Yeah. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 5:38

got a restraining order. Well, when a Demonn puts our restraining order on you, you know, you're a bad person,

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No.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 5:45

Yeah. Well then again, if he is like the epitome of evil, staying away from him would probably make you a good person. I mean, I don't wanna be pedantic, but I'm just, you know, just saying

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 5:55

So how have you listened to any music at all?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 5:58

Uh, other than homework and what's on my phone in the car, no,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 6:03

Nope.

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Absolutely

audioAlexEvens21211506414 6:04

none. I'm the worst panelist on a music podcast of all time.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 6:08

Jim, what have you been doing?

audioJim51211506414 6:10

well, as, as usual I've been to a few gigs. went to see the famous Irish rock band. The saw doctors the other week who were like, I don't really know them very well. I just went, cuz the girlfriend's parents are very into them. we just tagged along with them, but they were absolutely phenomenal. honestly, if you get a chance to see them live, they're so good, man. But yeah, other than that, obviously Kendrick Lamar, we all went too. I won't talk too much about that because

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Well, I'm

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we might

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as well get it outta

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the way. as a trio, myself, yourself, Jim and Tom. We went

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to

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see Kendrick Lamine, Manchester, and I, I ruddy

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enjoyed

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was really good.

audioTom31211506414 6:48

It was. It's see, it's, he's a really, really good rapper, but it's what annoyed me about

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gig.

audioTom31211506414 6:54

is you listen to the app. Like, No, No, So It was

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But look, we've gotta, we've gotta be

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honest about these things, right? Like, we've gotta have a critical eye on music. That's what people listen to us for.

audioJim51211506414 7:05

People listen to us

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sometimes,

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apparently.

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so Um, so

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the thing is, like on his records,

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he's got

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all this great stuff with like live instruments and you go and watch him live and it's basically like watching hip hop karaoke.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 7:20

I, I've, I've seen this, a lot of rap, but moment I, whenever I look in, like on YouTube for live rap videos, yeah, it, all of, it's just karaoke. Like the crowd do half the work and the choruses most of the time don't get done.

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Yeah. It's

audioTom31211506414 7:32

And, and there's no band, there's no band on stage. They're playing to a backing track with the most phenomenally loud bass that made everything sound like dubstep.

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But

audioTom31211506414 7:41

he is very good and he did put on a really good show. Um, and I liked it a lot. I'd really like

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see

audioTom31211506414 7:48

him play with a live jazz band,

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though the idea of that excites

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me a lot more than what we saw.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 7:54

yeah. Something like him, him doing a collaboration with bad, bad, not good.

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The,

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Canadian instrumental funk guys. cuz I know that Ghost Fest Killer in 2015, had an album out with bad, bad, not good. And

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that

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great. I'd love to hear Kendrick do something like that. My issue was similar to Tom in that I think that the bass was just too loud. maybe my nearly 36 years of show

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in there. But

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what I've found is that I've listened to performances back,

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through like footage or through

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the official videos that have been posted. And it sounds better when you are not there, because you get more of his voice, whereas it's all coated in base when live. And it really detracts from it musically. But I

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still

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think that in terms of production levels

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and energy, he was, in,

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he was, incredible. he's got, a very, very prominent stage presence as well, which is half the battle

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one

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already.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 8:48

I mean, everything you guys have just said just makes it sound rubbish. I'm just chucking out. I'm just

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saying

audioAlexEvens21211506414 8:53

you can't pinpoint why it was good, but you know why it was

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bad. Uh, so

audioJim51211506414 8:57

it was, it was the theater of it really. It was, It was, like, it, it was, it was, it was theater and without

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he's.

audioJim51211506414 9:04

of the

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was st

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on, on stage. Yeah, it was, it was just like

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Hunter Judy basically.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 9:10

They have a guy called Buttons on

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Bass

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 9:15

Oh, no, we

audioJim51211506414 9:16

no, if, if he'd, if he'd just been stood on a normal stage like doing, Yeah. As you say, like hiphop, karaoke, then it wouldn't have been anywhere near as could, but

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with

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how the stage was set up kind of

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Or the moving, moving

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parts. So yeah,

audioJim51211506414 9:34

no, no matter where you were stood, you would, you would at some point be like so close to the stage where Kendrick was performing.

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mm-hmm. Um,

audioJim51211506414 9:43

and then there was the big box and the, the coming up and down platforms and, and stuff. It was, it was very, it was,

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yeah.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 9:52

When you say it was, um, like karaoke,

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did, did

audioAlexEvens21211506414 9:55

he have the, at least, you know, the good

audioJim51211506414 9:58

didn't, he didn't have a monitor where he is reading the lyrics

audioAlexEvens21211506414 10:00

No, no, no, no. no. But as in, um,

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a lot

audioAlexEvens21211506414 10:02

rap videos I've seen, they literally just played a track and give him a mic and they wrap over the actual track. Did he at least have a vocalist backing

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track? Yeah, he was. He was.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 10:11

That's right. Yeah. Cause

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I've seen he was, wrapping line.he was He wasn't yet.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 10:16

and the, back catalog as well, he has an incredible number of songs that even if you are not too familiar with

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these albums that you've heard, used in adverts, used in

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all sorts of media, over the

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years since about 2011. And there's just so many hooks and you've

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got songs like swimming pools,

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drink, and you've got, allright

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 10:37

King Hunter.

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And it

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just an incredible back catalog. When you go through in,

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at

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such length and place,

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so many of his songs as he did, it's, it's never

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gonna be a bad experience.

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Did he do any covers.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 10:49

Uh,

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no,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 10:51

no, I was, I

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was hoping he was

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gonna do Sweet

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Caroline, no That'd be great. That would be hip hop karaoke. Mm-hmm.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 11:02

I just think every hiphop group as like a law should just do ariman when I get hired at the end of

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of set. I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 11:09

think there'll be one person upset by that decision.

audioJim51211506414 11:13

On another note though, as you are all aware, I'm quite into my hot sources and I've, I've just picked up a new hot sauce, which you'll probably appreciate, whittle now it's called, purple Pane, and there's a little picture of prints on it. this is a Blackberry super hot sauce, it's,

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it? It's

audioJim51211506414 11:33

absolutely delicious. It's, it's like one of the hottest sources I've ever had. you know that sauce we bought when you were up in Manchester a few years ago, Tom?

audioTom31211506414 11:42

Yeah, I remember the one.

audioJim51211506414 11:44

Yeah. Well, we, we were sweating for about half an hour afterwards,

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Yeah. And

audioJim51211506414 11:48

thi this is probably like

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5%

audioJim51211506414 11:52

less than that

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So it's like, okay.

audioJim51211506414 11:55

it, it's, it's very, very hot, but it's like, there's so much flavor in there, like the blackberry hit is, is massive and I'd highly recommend it if you are in the market for some super hot, hot sauce. for anyone that's listening on the actual podcast audio, this is made by Vengeful spirit in Edinburgh.

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So yeah, go check that out. It's not to my,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 12:18

to my dismay, it doesn't cost 1999. Uh, but it's

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cheaper. So

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 12:23

rah, everybody

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wins.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 12:30

That's amazing.

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Oh yeah. Great.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 12:37

We're not very

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good at plugging. Um,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 12:40

speaking of plugging Mar

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Martin, what have you been plugging uh,

audiomartynley11211506414 12:45

Um,

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What's his

audiomartynley11211506414 12:48

That's a, That's a, that's a, loaded question, man.

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I meant,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 12:52

I,

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I meant in terms of obviously your pedal board that we can see there.

audiomartynley11211506414 12:57

Oh, yeah. man. You know, uh, yeah, I've been plugging that Yeah, I'd certainly saved,

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guitars, they

audioAlexEvens21211506414 13:04

Open El sex devices one by one. he's like Inspector Gad.

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He just press my name and dildo.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 13:10

Fireies up the ceiling.

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as

audioAlexEvens21211506414 13:11

I mean,

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Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 13:15

The. um, The many dil days of my paddle board. you know,

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Have we consulted

audiomartynley11211506414 13:22

I, I, I dunno. I've been doing my usual thing, like working lots, cycling around, you

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know,

audiomartynley11211506414 13:28

all that. But like, um, actually I haven't been cycling because

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been too icy.

audiomartynley11211506414 13:32

It's been too,

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it's

audiomartynley11211506414 13:34

been too cold. And like, I don't wanna go cycling in this weather at the moment. It's too dangerous. But, um,

video1211506414 13:42

safety

audiomartynley11211506414 13:42

my band,

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My band. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 13:44

Yeah. Safety first. But my band, I'm into my band more than anything. I fucking love every, practice session that we have. It's almost like therapy. It's like when I'm in that room, nothing else in the world exists except for the four or five people in that room just making that music. It's, We are like Radiohead. It's unbelievable.

audioTom31211506414 14:07

Let's not over hype us up too much before people hear

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say

audiomartynley11211506414 14:10

I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 14:11

Yeah, I know I um, I, bumped into, I bumped into Tom at the practice space actually about, it was about three weeks ago,

video1211506414 14:18

wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. That wasn't that Jack, man. Cool. Cool story. really Re

audioAlexEvens21211506414 14:25

really brought that to a

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a halt, didn't I? That's what Scott,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 14:29

I like jam,

audiomartynley11211506414 14:31

we,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 14:33

Tom, what have

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doing? so first

audioTom31211506414 14:35

thing I've got something to show

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that

audioTom31211506414 14:37

finally arrived cuz I've owned about this before.

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So if you can

audioTom31211506414 14:40

see that there. That is my, that is my, uh,

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five

audioTom31211506414 14:45

string

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fretless illegal base.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 14:48

Oh, I just thought UK.

video1211506414 14:51

Yeah,

audioTom31211506414 14:51

it is a, it's, it's, it's lovely. the optical pickups are, Really, really nice. Although I've discovered a problem when you get it from the factory, the action's a little bit high, but because it's optical pickups to adjust the action, you also have to adjust the pickup position. And that's way too complicated

video1211506414 15:10

me. So I need to take it somebody to do that.

audioTom31211506414 15:13

But, um,

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it's

audioTom31211506414 15:14

lovely. It sounds great. Um, thoroughly recommend.

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Wilcox Saber Base is really nice, but, um,

audioTom31211506414 15:20

if you can get it

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a shop that'll lower the action for you before you buy it. Very good idea. That's my review there. Um, I went

audioTom31211506414 15:27

to my cousin's wedding in she in STO

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on Saturday.

audioTom31211506414 15:31

Uh, and then was driving back on Sunday and got caught in the snow and ended up in, in staying the night

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Cheltham. That was,

audioTom31211506414 15:36

uh, that was interesting. Um,

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Til is

audioTom31211506414 15:41

not a place. It's, it's a really nice place, but it's not somewhere I'd ever think to go. Um, listen

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two

audioTom31211506414 15:47

new albums that I kind of like this week.

video1211506414 15:50

Si

audioTom31211506414 15:50

um, uh, they're not

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I don't think,

audioTom31211506414 15:53

but they're

video1211506414 15:54

an avantgarde metal band. Um, it's like

audioTom31211506414 15:57

some sort

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we Weird Fever Dream. it's it's

audioTom31211506414 16:01

very strange, but it's one of those albums that you should

video1211506414 16:04

try and experience at least once. And I liked

audioTom31211506414 16:07

the new album by Holy Thorn. it's it's, heavy post

video1211506414 16:12

but it's,

audioTom31211506414 16:13

I really enjoyed that. Uh, but then in the car recently I've been listening to Martha Wainwright's debut album a lot, is an album that everyone's probably forgotten and if you, you need to, we need to revisit that cuz

video1211506414 16:26

it's,

audioTom31211506414 16:27

a brilliant album and it's sort of weirdly Martha Wright's first album sounds a bit like

video1211506414 16:33

PJ

audioTom31211506414 16:33

Harvey became when she did let England Shake in the late two thousands. Um, so yeah, definitely that's an album that you definitely need to

video1211506414 16:41

out. Also, the fact that

audioTom31211506414 16:43

as a sort

video1211506414 16:44

country singer, she

audioTom31211506414 16:45

had the nerve to release her debut single called Bloody Motherfucking Asshole

video1211506414 16:51

yeah, there's been quite

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 16:51

few

video1211506414 16:52

albums that I've listened to recently. so gone

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 16:55

through releases from,

video1211506414 16:57

previous

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 16:57

favorites on the podcast, such as working Men's Club. Fear. That's very good.

video1211506414 17:02

and Fontes,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 17:03

DC Skin, tea, fire,

video1211506414 17:04

I really enjoyed it. I, I've not got round to listening to it until

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 17:08

much later. It came out

video1211506414 17:09

January, but it's good. I absolutely hated it. Absolutely hated it. there were some tracks I didn't like

audioTom31211506414 17:18

it regularly made my toes curl with how much I disliked it. I don't know. There's something about his vocal are, it was like, fingernails

video1211506414 17:28

a chalkboard for me that

audioTom31211506414 17:29

I love you some. Oh,

video1211506414 17:32

like, yeah, it, it, it's, it's, horrible.

audioTom31211506414 17:36

It's horrible.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 17:38

Its funny cause I go yeah, like agreeing to something he loves,

video1211506414 17:41

like,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 17:42

ah,

video1211506414 17:43

no, I, I thought it was really good. I don't love it. I just thought I gave it, I gave it one listen, and I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 17:49

thought it was, it was all right. There were a couple of songs

video1211506414 17:52

it I didn't like, but I didn't,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 17:54

I didn't get

video1211506414 17:54

nails on a chalkboard

audiomartynley11211506414 17:56

I get the same thing with like placebo and also at Points Smashing pumpkins, the voice is just like, no, I can't deal with the music. um,

audioJim51211506414 18:05

album.

audiomartynley11211506414 18:06

Yeah, Oh, fuck off

video1211506414 18:10

the other albums, from

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:11

previous favorites,

video1211506414 18:12

no thank

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:12

you, has been released in the last few

video1211506414 18:14

days by Little Um, the follow up

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:17

to,

video1211506414 18:17

sometimes

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:18

I might be introvert from last year. it's not as big and bold and

video1211506414 18:21

bombastic as that album.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:24

it feels like a

video1211506414 18:25

selection of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:26

BSides or songs that didn't quite make that album. But it's really good. It's still

video1211506414 18:31

50

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:31

minutes long, so it's not a slight release and, uh, she still is on

video1211506414 18:35

point as ever. I just don't think that

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:37

it is

video1211506414 18:38

is quite, got as many hooks as that album

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:42

also couple of,

video1211506414 18:43

other releases that I've

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:44

been listening to, including, Moto Ma, uh, by,

video1211506414 18:48

Rosalia. she's a Spanish artist, and she's

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:51

making waves on TikTok as

video1211506414 18:53

other pop stars

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 18:54

are. But

video1211506414 18:55

the album's actually more interesting than that. There's a lot. It's like, if Bad Bunnies album was actually

audioAlexEvens21211506414 19:01

Impossible. Couldn't be

video1211506414 19:02

be done.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:03

it is doing really well in terms of

video1211506414 19:05

other critics', as, placements for

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:06

album of the

video1211506414 19:07

year.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:08

Uh, so I thought, oh, I'm gonna check

video1211506414 19:09

it out. And it is really good. It's just difficult when you can't

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:12

speak Spanish, to

video1211506414 19:14

Bad, bad. Bunny

audioTom31211506414 19:15

is doing well in critics end of year

video1211506414 19:17

I'm, yeah, I don't get that. I

audioTom31211506414 19:19

I don't know what they're smoking.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:22

There were a couple of moments, as I pointed out

video1211506414 19:23

that episode where I tried something different. I quite like that, but from what we heard, it was just trap

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:28

the same, yeah, it is come on again in a, in my like

video1211506414 19:34

shuffles this year and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:36

I've listened to the

video1211506414 19:37

singles a few times and it just doesn't Couple of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:41

music related

video1211506414 19:43

that have happened in, in the last few

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:45

weeks since we last recorded as

video1211506414 19:47

well. one of the biggest being the, the passing of, Christine McVie, from, Fleetwood Mac.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:54

my favorite

video1211506414 19:55

of Fleetwood Mac was say what legend

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 19:57

Al always has been. Um, I love her. Her songs, they're

video1211506414 20:00

so different

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:01

the rest of the band's material, but they've been so consistent throughout their discography. she was one of the first people to join. She wasn't an original member, but she joined

video1211506414 20:09

in about 1970,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:11

as Christine

video1211506414 20:11

Perfect

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:13

every record

video1211506414 20:13

has got

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:14

one or two of just her piano and they're just brilliant all

video1211506414 20:18

the way through. and so many songs

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:20

that have got so much longevity. she had a hand in Songbird is probably the definitive, but you've got warm ways. You've got,

video1211506414 20:28

little Lies, everywhere and don't stop,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:32

as well, just so many brilliant

video1211506414 20:35

songs. So that was

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 20:35

really sad. Um, uh, she was in her

video1211506414 20:40

seventies.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 20:42

That's

audiomartynley11211506414 20:43

Yeah. Uh, uh, There was a documentary about her on, uh, the BBC that you have these days. Uh, the other night, and I watched it and,

video1211506414 20:51

BBC thing. That

audiomartynley11211506414 20:52

Bob BBC thing. Um, and it was just like how she, um, she had a fear of flying and she didn't want to,

video1211506414 21:01

um,

audiomartynley11211506414 21:02

fly anymore. She just want, it's a nice country home and just spend the rest of her days like in an English country. home, Kind of like just chilling out and stuff. And I was like, that's fucking so nice. It's so relatable. this woman had, it's one of the biggest bands of the universe uh, tour the world and stuff, and she was just like, I just want to chill out with my chickens and shit, you know? And uh, yeah. It was just so nice to see that and the fact that she was able to do that, she was able to like, just go, yeah, I was in Fleetwood Mac, and just end her life, Like on her own terms.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 21:37

she was the Dennis Burke camp of

video1211506414 21:39

Rock and roll.

audiomartynley11211506414 21:41

Yeah. She's, amazing. No,

video1211506414 21:44

glad

audioAlexEvens21211506414 21:44

you said before I

video1211506414 21:45

with

audiomartynley11211506414 21:49

What an amazing band though. Like, you know, people write off Fleetwood Mac and they go, oh, it's like, you know, seventies. Big rock. But like, they're fucking incredible songwriters. They, yeah, they were excellent. Yeah.

audioTom31211506414 22:03

I mean, so I think, I think the Ballsiest thing Christine McVee did was writing You Make Loving Fun.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 22:09

Oh yeah.

video1211506414 22:10

About John McVie. Yeah.

audioTom31211506414 22:12

Well, no. so the songs about the lighting director.

video1211506414 22:15

Oh, is it?

audioTom31211506414 22:16

Yes. And she was having an affair with the lighting director

video1211506414 22:19

Fleetwood

audioTom31211506414 22:19

Mac and wrote, you Make Loving Fun, not about her husband, but about the lighting director she was having an affair with while her husband had

video1211506414 22:26

play the bass on

audioTom31211506414 22:27

the song that she wrote about the person she was having an affair with.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 22:30

There's so many stories

video1211506414 22:32

like that on me was

audiomartynley11211506414 22:33

yeah. That, that was Fleetwood Mac all over, wasn't it? You know, the Steve V and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 22:37

Well, Stevie N was

video1211506414 22:38

having an affair with

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 22:39

Mick Fleetwood,

video1211506414 22:40

the drummer, Yeah. uh, unbeknownst to Lin

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 22:43

Lin Buckingham, who was putting all the guitar licks on the songs that she

video1211506414 22:46

was writing.

audiomartynley11211506414 22:48

I, I just love the story about the fact that they were writing songs about each other and they had to sing them to each other.

video1211506414 22:54

Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 22:55

You know what I mean? They had to like sing these songs night after night on. tour About like, you know, the infidelity and the fucking affairs and stuff. And the person that they were having an affair with was right there on stage. and they had to fucking play these songs.

video1211506414 23:10

Absolutely. You don't get all rock and roll on that

audiomartynley11211506414 23:12

No, you don't. And I also, I don't get why I, I still don't understand the whole, um,

video1211506414 23:18

kicking,

audiomartynley11211506414 23:19

uh, Lindsay Buckingham out the band thing later on. I, I don't

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:23

he

video1211506414 23:23

Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 23:24

He's the

video1211506414 23:24

years. he's genius.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:25

Yeah,

video1211506414 23:26

yeah. He's, it's fucking nuts.

audioTom31211506414 23:28

He was also very controlling. So I

video1211506414 23:30

sort of

audioTom31211506414 23:30

understand if you couldn't stand to be in the same room as him, it makes sense getting rid of him. But

video1211506414 23:35

Yeah. It's like the Smiths with Marcy

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:37

Ma that they hate each other, but

video1211506414 23:38

don't love them

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:39

to make music again.

video1211506414 23:40

Well, maybe yeah. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 23:42

I guess it's one of those things, that's from the outside, you're like, why are you not in the recording studio?

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:47

Talking Heads is another one. Talking Heads should are all

video1211506414 23:50

alive. They should be

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:51

music, but

video1211506414 23:52

they all hate

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 23:52

David Burn.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 23:54

I mean, that would be enough, wouldn't it?

video1211506414 23:55

just Yeah,

audioTom31211506414 23:57

well look at, um, Sue's second album, dog Van Star is quite

video1211506414 24:01

because the

audioTom31211506414 24:02

singer in the guitarist wouldn't

video1211506414 24:04

be in the studio at the same time as each other. They refused flat out. So they, they were, they won. The guitarist went in, recorded his

audioTom31211506414 24:11

guitar parts, and then the singer sings

video1211506414 24:13

over the top afterwards. Like they

audiomartynley11211506414 24:15

Was that, um, was, was that when Bernard Butler was still

audioTom31211506414 24:19

Yeah, it was Bernard Butler. That was the last, he did the first two albums and then left

video1211506414 24:23

who

audiomartynley11211506414 24:24

was also a genius. Bernard Butler is amazing.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:26

Another one who,

video1211506414 24:27

passed away,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:28

recently.

video1211506414 24:29

Martin, I know you'll be sad. Angelo

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:30

Badalamenti, the composer of Twin Peaks worked heavily with David Lynch throughout

video1211506414 24:35

his, career. did music for,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:37

more Holland Drive. blue Velvet also did the music for

video1211506414 24:41

Dark Water, really shit

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:44

American remake of a

video1211506414 24:46

Japanese

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:46

horror classic.

video1211506414 24:48

But Angela battle lament's

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 24:50

contributions to Twin Peaks are, well, you, you don't

video1211506414 24:53

have Twin Peaks being the phenomenon that it is without that soundtrack it's so absolutely agree. Yeah,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 25:00

it's

video1211506414 25:01

so important to how you observe

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 25:05

each scene that you, you simply cannot have the

video1211506414 25:08

same show without that sound.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:10

I mean, just to be devil's, advocate, I mean, we've never seen it without his soundtrack,

video1211506414 25:14

so

audioJim51211506414 25:15

You've never seen it at all, Alex, so you can shut your

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:17

could be better.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 25:19

Well,

video1211506414 25:20

I mean,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:20

saying we don't, we just don't know. There's, there's just, we can't just chuck frivolous comments around like that. We maybe he's, maybe he's the worst one that could have done it. You never

video1211506414 25:28

heard

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:29

stick a Wes balling riff over it. Maybe it's bear, I don't know. like, how can we

audiomartynley11211506414 25:35

no

video1211506414 25:35

this?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:35

this?

audiomartynley11211506414 25:36

seriously

video1211506414 25:37

biscuits.

audiomartynley11211506414 25:39

a Angelo, A Angelo Battlement like contribution to film soundtrack is up there with Han Zuma in. that it Absolutely encompassed the

video1211506414 25:48

don't start Tom again.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:49

he's very good. I like how

video1211506414 25:50

Tim is

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:51

he's probably my favorite, uh, of the,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 25:55

of the Cinema

video1211506414 25:56

Brothers.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 25:56

of the Zimmer brothers.

audiomartynley11211506414 25:58

But also like, I, I wanna draw attention to bad lament's performance in, uh, Mulholland Drive when he's at the table and he just this spitting coffee thing.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:08

Yeah. It's just

video1211506414 26:09

so weird. It's

audiomartynley11211506414 26:10

so out there and so random and weird.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:13

Yeah. He's

video1211506414 26:14

He's part of the co conspiracy. that Yeah. uh, where they've

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:17

they've got like a board of

video1211506414 26:18

shadowy directors that have a,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:20

a a

video1211506414 26:21

photo

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:21

a, so,

video1211506414 26:22

such a great

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:23

film. That, that,

audiomartynley11211506414 26:24

is such

video1211506414 26:24

a great film. Yeah. In fact, I'm

audiomartynley11211506414 26:26

I'm gonna watch it as soon as this podcast

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:28

I, I've

video1211506414 26:29

I've tempted.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 26:29

I'm just still thinking my idea of bloody the opening credits of, um,

video1211506414 26:33

I've got

audioAlexEvens21211506414 26:33

gone, Black's cool now.

video1211506414 26:34

Um, Twin Peak.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 26:35

twin Peak. Sorry. Twin Peaks. Who just the intro of a hotdog flavored water. Just warm.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 26:43

Chocolate.

video1211506414 26:44

Starfish

audioAlexEvens21211506414 26:47

That's all I can think of now. Just like the nice, like forest background. Bring it

video1211506414 26:56

old I why you wanna hate me.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 27:03

I think you may

video1211506414 27:03

have ruined Twin Peaks but not just me, but everyone now you ever watch an idea

audioAlexEvens21211506414 27:08

in your

video1211506414 27:08

head. you'll just hear that you've ruined it. That's it. That's gone. another person who did

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 27:13

pass away, is Wilco Johnson

video1211506414 27:15

from Dr. Feelgood. also an actor was in game of Thrones, I believe. Yeah, it was. and, I've been I for quite a long time, Yeah. but, I, I saw better than expected, saw to eventually passed away. I saw

audiomartynley11211506414 27:29

Dr. Feelgood live once and they were fucking incredible. Absolutely incredible. Just like his. Approach to the guitar was so fucking phenomenal in his like, kind

video1211506414 27:41

uh,

audiomartynley11211506414 27:43

what's the word? Accuracy like. So he, he would do

video1211506414 27:46

really,

audiomartynley11211506414 27:47

like, what would sound like really simple riffs, but they weren't simple. And I've tried playing some Wilco Johnson stuff, and it's very difficult. It's very hard. A bit like Steve

video1211506414 27:57

Vaughn, you know, sounds easy, but

audiomartynley11211506414 28:00

it's really, really difficult. Massive loss. I

video1211506414 28:04

loved

audiomartynley11211506414 28:04

watching him

video1211506414 28:05

play

audiomartynley11211506414 28:05

and he did that walking back and forth thing that he does. It was so fucking cool. He

video1211506414 28:11

it look. Yeah. Quite menacing,

audiomartynley11211506414 28:12

Yeah. Very menacing. It was not effortless. It was like, hi. His guitar part. So extremely complex. This is, Yeah. What a great guy. What a massive loss. Actually a big influence on me as well. Like Yeah.

video1211506414 28:25

Massive Yeah,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:27

Restin Palmer.

video1211506414 28:28

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:29

give. the Patreon is going

video1211506414 28:31

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:32

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video1211506414 28:33

all of our episodes, in the future in full length on the Patreon.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:38

we will also be doing songs on trial mini episodes where two or three of us will get together and discuss two or three songs,

video1211506414 28:45

and that'll be available on a higher

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:46

tier. Other

video1211506414 28:47

than that, You'll be able to

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:48

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video1211506414 28:50

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 28:52

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:05

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video1211506414 29:08

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:13

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video1211506414 29:13

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audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:14

the stuff involving

video1211506414 29:15

bells and all

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:17

that kind of

video1211506414 29:18

thing.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:34

so we've got 10 times to discuss

video1211506414 29:36

this evening,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:37

and we have not picked these for any particular reason. They don't necessarily have to be

video1211506414 29:42

undeniable bangers because sometimes we

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:44

all get, a

video1211506414 29:44

little bit

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:45

political and pick

video1211506414 29:46

something that we think

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:47

should have been

video1211506414 29:48

picked just because a band doesn't deserve to be on the list. So we're getting rid of the undeniable bang for tonight. If we find one that's a undeniable clangers. Yeah, none of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 29:57

that. It's just

video1211506414 29:58

10 songs.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 30:00

Deep dive, meet

video1211506414 30:01

gravy.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 30:02

So we're gonna start tonight with Al's Choice.

video1211506414 30:05

and rather than me give the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 30:06

explanation, I'm gonna

video1211506414 30:07

let

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 30:08

present, the song and why you picked it and all

video1211506414 30:11

that. go where, you know,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:13

Wouldn't you like to know why I picked this

video1211506414 30:15

song?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:17

Yeah,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 30:18

we,

video1211506414 30:18

we, we'd also like to know what it is as well.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:21

Okay. Well, I

video1211506414 30:22

have picked,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:22

it's like that, by the hip hop group Run dmc, but specifically the single version released in 97. remixed by house DJ Jason

video1211506414 30:31

Ne,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:32

who I'm not familiar with most his work. I think we've all heard this song. You know, it's like that and that's the way it is. It's,

video1211506414 30:40

uh, who

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:41

exactly everyone remembers the horror. it's all around 5 million copies worldwide place to get amongst the biggest selling

video1211506414 30:47

extinguishers

audioAlexEvens21211506414 30:47

all time. And in 2008, it was ranked number 40 on VH ones 100th greatest Hips up hop songs of all time. And it is undeniably a banger.

video1211506414 30:59

It is undeniably a banger.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 31:01

I mean, I

video1211506414 31:01

I think every, I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 31:03

think this song pretty much like made break dancing popular for like 10

video1211506414 31:06

years.

audioJim51211506414 31:07

yeah, like when, when you pick the song. Cause I, I remember when, when this came out and was like, cause it was number one and I recall it was just number one for bloody ages. but but I'm reading Wikipedia. Apparently it was only number one for six weeks. But so that's, how long childhood time feels. Um, but, but yeah. What a, what a what a banger.

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And

audioJim51211506414 31:30

to learn that it kept, uh, the spice girls stop from number one. That's, uh,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 31:37

that's, you've been a Wikipedia

audioJim51211506414 31:38

Another, bonus for the

video1211506414 31:43

Another

audioJim51211506414 31:44

bonus for the track.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 31:45

I like the original, but I, yeah, no, the remix is pretty fucking stomping. It's great. Does everyone else like it? There's not much more

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say.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 31:55

There's not really much more say like this. I don't know too much about the groups individually, and I just know I really like this song. Uh, I picked this one because. The day of being asked. Okay, we gotta start confirming this. I heard he is this on the radio at work? And I meant made a mental note. I was like, actually yeah, this on fucking rules.

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So

audioAlexEvens21211506414 32:13

yeah, that's, that's why I picked it no more. Cause I know it, like you guys said like earlier, it's really hard to pin down like just two songs you re want to put forward. So I kind of, I'm ass but just my gut instinct on

video1211506414 32:25

the day

audioAlexEvens21211506414 32:26

and uh, I think we've all been pleasantly surprised by how great my,

video1211506414 32:29

picks were. That is a

audiomartynley11211506414 32:35

is a great pick. And as a, um,

video1211506414 32:38

a massive fan

audiomartynley11211506414 32:39

of eighties and early nineties hip hop. It was really cool to see Run DMC get the, recognition that they absolutely deserved. it brought out a new audience to

video1211506414 32:51

that

audiomartynley11211506414 32:52

band. They, they were fucking amazing. Run DMC are fucking incredible. Like, they're so important. It's so, so like, crucial to hip hop in general. And to have like a track like

video1211506414 33:06

they're

audiomartynley11211506414 33:06

gonna check out Run DMC's, like early back

video1211506414 33:09

and

audiomartynley11211506414 33:10

stuff. Fucking amazing. it is an important song in the sense that it wasn't just a slammer, it

video1211506414 33:17

just like,

audiomartynley11211506414 33:18

yeah, look at Run dmc, man. Run dmc. fucking incredible. Absolutely a brilliant band. people probably got into hip hop through a track like that. Um,

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yeah,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:31

I, I like a bit like the added though, like ne just Nevins fella, you know, what's that like? Bit was like I can't, I dunno.

video1211506414 33:37

Nevins fella,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:38

there's Nevins fella, you know, Nevins,

video1211506414 33:40

Jason,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:41

what's up, what's up? Bit after like the third or fourth chorus when

video1211506414 33:44

it is

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:44

like the, the female vocalist. I have no idea what the

video1211506414 33:46

a lyrics

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:46

are, but it's like,

video1211506414 33:48

dear, what

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:49

do, did, do like, nope.

video1211506414 33:52

So we're

audioAlexEvens21211506414 33:53

running that bit the bit's pretty good. I

video1211506414 33:57

like I just want, just want this out. And he goes straight back into Rapid. It's

audioAlexEvens21211506414 34:01

pretty fucking

video1211506414 34:02

awesome.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:07

Tom. Go on,

video1211506414 34:08

say something.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 34:11

Monkey kid.

video1211506414 34:12

Sorry. I I just suddenly realized that I had

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:14

nothing to say because

video1211506414 34:15

all I can think of is if we let

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:17

Al speak, he'll just do

video1211506414 34:18

the whole song

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:19

in.

video1211506414 34:21

if he goes

audioTom31211506414 34:22

over 40% we're stuffed

video1211506414 34:23

coffee, right? Yeah. Yeah.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 34:25

Yeah,

audioTom31211506414 34:28

I don't have a huge amount to say on

video1211506414 34:29

song, really.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 34:30

It's one of those ones, isn't it? It's hard to just be like, there's, you can't go in depth. it's

video1211506414 34:34

pretty good. Yeah.

audioTom31211506414 34:36

I knew it straight away. It doesn't hold any emotional resonance for me, but I, I like, straight

video1211506414 34:42

straight away I know it, you know,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:45

I

video1211506414 34:45

decided I don't like this song I, I'm gonna be the guy that stops it from being an

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:51

undeniable banger.

video1211506414 34:53

the original I love, and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 34:56

I used to really

video1211506414 34:57

think this was an improvement on but now,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:01

like 25 years removed, it is just the original with a house beat

video1211506414 35:06

over the top and it's hip house much later than Hip House

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:11

was kind of incept

video1211506414 35:12

in the early

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:12

nineties. So it's quite late on. But yeah, I can't deny it's, it was massively popular

video1211506414 35:18

and it

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:18

did captivate the public.

video1211506414 35:20

I have a personal reason why this song,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:23

has kind of

video1211506414 35:24

deteriorated

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:25

in, in my

video1211506414 35:26

appreciation of it. as somebody who

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:28

is known in their younger years for, for dancing quite a bit,

video1211506414 35:33

I've had at

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:34

least 20 dance offs

video1211506414 35:36

to this song.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:38

And, and there is nothing you can do as somebody whose

video1211506414 35:43

dancing style is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:44

the equivalent of

video1211506414 35:44

shit posting.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:46

there is nothing you can do to this song

video1211506414 35:48

unless it's break

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:49

dancing. That looks impressive. So as

video1211506414 35:51

soon as

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:51

somebody can do

video1211506414 35:52

one body

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:53

pop move, they

video1211506414 35:54

come along to this, they body

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:55

pop, I'm done.

video1211506414 35:57

I, I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 35:57

I, what, what am I gonna do? And, and this song

video1211506414 35:59

has ruined so many dance offs for me cuz I can't do shit to this.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:04

And I, I, yeah, I just fuck you this song. I'm glad I can se

video1211506414 36:09

finally say 25 years later

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:12

that

video1211506414 36:12

this song made me

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:14

lose my style in a nightclub

video1211506414 36:16

many, many times. So yeah,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:19

take that. But

audioJim51211506414 36:20

was, it wasn't this song's fault, whittle

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:22

No, it

video1211506414 36:23

it wasn't. It was totally my fault.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:24

And,

video1211506414 36:25

I just thought,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:26

yeah, I'm gonna,

video1211506414 36:27

unload on this song, but in retrospect, it is just,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:31

I've gone beyond that in terms of house and,

video1211506414 36:35

and hip

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:36

hop,

video1211506414 36:36

There were lots of songs

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:37

in the mid that, had this particular

video1211506414 36:40

style, and I think most of them are better.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:42

and

video1211506414 36:42

I prefer the all I'm gonna say now.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 36:46

Well, I personally like it, so in my humble opinion, you are wrong.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 36:54

So I think the majority of people do

video1211506414 36:56

like this And yeah.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 36:58

What's, what's the general consensus then?

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:00

it's a thumbs down for

video1211506414 37:01

me, but everyone else gives it a thumbs

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:04

up Tom's got a

video1211506414 37:06

wavering It's, I think I'm with

audioTom31211506414 37:09

you, Dan, and I do actually prefer the original. it's a good but not great

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:13

The original is

video1211506414 37:14

about,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:15

a financial crisis and people struggling

video1211506414 37:17

with

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:17

poverty. And I think that

video1211506414 37:19

when you listen to the original

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:21

in the, in the kind of electro style

video1211506414 37:22

that it's done,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:23

it gives more prominence to the, the lyrics. And in

video1211506414 37:27

this version it takes away from that edits the lyrics down,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:32

cuts out several verses and

video1211506414 37:34

just hits the fucking

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:36

beat all

video1211506414 37:37

the way. And it's just, propelled by this

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:40

house beat and it

video1211506414 37:42

loses the nuance

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:43

of that's,

video1211506414 37:45

why I would say

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:46

I

video1211506414 37:48

Next up

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 37:49

tonight,

video1211506414 37:49

I'll let you decide which one you're gonna talk about,

audioJim51211506414 37:53

Okay. so on my first pick is,

video1211506414 37:55

by

audioJim51211506414 37:57

a London based d iy punk band. this is from the 2014 album Nervous Race Horse. the band is wonk unit. They're probably one of the most exciting and unique British punk bands that are about at the moment. release a phenomenal album last year. but the song I've picked is,

video1211506414 38:19

Lewisham.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 38:20

I like that

video1211506414 38:21

Love

audiomartynley11211506414 38:21

this.

video1211506414 38:22

I've fucking loved it.

audiomartynley11211506414 38:23

it. I thought the guitar tones on this song were fucking amazing. Like, just that intro, the way it comes in. you can tell that

video1211506414 38:31

whoever

audiomartynley11211506414 38:32

the guys in

video1211506414 38:32

band they know their

audiomartynley11211506414 38:34

equipment. And it,

video1211506414 38:35

sounded

audiomartynley11211506414 38:36

so fucking raw. And like the guitar tone was perfect.

audioJim51211506414 38:41

I am so surprised Martin loved this song,

audiomartynley11211506414 38:44

Yeah. I did. I

audioJim51211506414 38:45

to get a slate in from Martin

audioAlexEvens21211506414 38:46

Mine's pretty, uh, pretty, open when it comes to a bit of a just little punk music. surprised me in

video1211506414 38:53

past. I like

audiomartynley11211506414 38:54

my punk

video1211506414 38:55

just

audiomartynley11211506414 38:55

just think this isn't punk in

video1211506414 38:57

way that

audiomartynley11211506414 38:58

people see punk. it's like people see punk It's like the whole dirty thing, But the, the guitar tones what really,

video1211506414 39:06

well thought

audiomartynley11211506414 39:07

out. There's just, yes. This is great.

video1211506414 39:09

It's fucking

audiomartynley11211506414 39:10

awesome.

video1211506414 39:11

Yeah. I really like

audiomartynley11211506414 39:11

this song. it, it stood out to me in

video1211506414 39:13

whole playlist.

audiomartynley11211506414 39:15

This whole hilarious playlist. This song

video1211506414 39:17

out to me. I fucking love it.

audiomartynley11211506414 39:19

it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 39:20

Well, this is one of the few of the songs on the actual play, which

video1211506414 39:23

I listened

audioAlexEvens21211506414 39:23

to. This is actually on my car mix, so I, I do listen to this song. when it came up, oh, notice one. Yeah, it's good. A few of the others, I've never heard of before.

audioTom31211506414 39:33

I had two notes on

video1211506414 39:34

song. I

audioTom31211506414 39:35

really enjoyed it. And I wrote, I'm very disappointed that James didn't nominate this for the pop punk episode. That was one

audioJim51211506414 39:42

not pop punk,

video1211506414 39:43

It's, it's, it's close enough. Yeah. Yeah. It's

audioTom31211506414 39:46

closer than any of Martin's picks Were

audiomartynley11211506414 39:49

yeah,

video1211506414 39:50

true.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 39:51

To be fair, buck was fucking closer.

audioTom31211506414 39:54

and then I've written, why is he singing about working with tomatoes, Because

video1211506414 40:01

a line he repeats

audioTom31211506414 40:02

over and over again, and I don't get it. what does Lewisham have to do with

video1211506414 40:06

and pissing on someone at the door

audioTom31211506414 40:08

Yeah. I was like, apart from that, I really enjoyed it, but it's just the fact he repeats the line working with tomatoes like quite a

video1211506414 40:15

times, and I'm like, why?

audioJim51211506414 40:18

Yeah. I think part of the song is about trying to get the train home from a night out and they're not being a toilet, so having to piss out the window, but you accidentally piss on someone's face.

video1211506414 40:28

Okay, I didn't get that. Not, not a situation. I found myself in So I liked the production and I thought, The guitar sounded great.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:42

I

video1211506414 40:42

don't know what it was for this song,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:44

but for some reason,

video1211506414 40:45

I like

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:46

most punk songs like this

video1211506414 40:47

that are a bit tongue your cheek, but

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:49

I've

video1211506414 40:50

listened to it about six or seven times and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:52

I

video1211506414 40:52

don't find anything memorable about

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:53

this song.

video1211506414 40:54

Well, I do remember lyrics, but I don't remember any melodies. I don't remember

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 40:59

much about it. I just thought it was quite unremarkable.

video1211506414 41:01

Sorry,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 41:02

I think you could have picked elbows. I think that's a better song.

audioJim51211506414 41:05

I could have picked half the songs on that album or any other album, really.

video1211506414 41:09

no, just elbows,

audioJim51211506414 41:10

Go Easy would've been Go Easy. Would've been a good choice. From, from Nevas Racehorse as

audioAlexEvens21211506414 41:14

Oh, that's good one.

audioJim51211506414 41:15

a banger.

video1211506414 41:17

Young's.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 41:17

Pretty much banger. Yeah. If anyone said, listen to one unit, give him a go.

audioJim51211506414 41:22

Mm-hmm. Kings Road Sporting Heroes as well. that's a cracker on that.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 41:27

I I'd recognize it, but I dunno what all the track names are a

video1211506414 41:30

A

audioJim51211506414 41:30

A Kings Rose Sport in here. Rosewater, disgusting bunch. Schooled in buggery bullying and rugby Bunch.

video1211506414 41:36

Bunch cans.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:40

it's

video1211506414 41:40

got a halfman half biscuit kind of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:43

satirical

video1211506414 41:44

lyrics based in quotidian situations.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:47

it's a bit

video1211506414 41:47

rougher sounding than

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:48

halfman half biscuits, where

video1211506414 41:49

the latest

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:50

anyway. Um,

video1211506414 41:51

so I I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:52

thought it was kind of

video1211506414 41:52

half man, half ho up, maybe.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 41:57

Okay, well, we'll we'll edit that one out.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 42:00

No, no.

video1211506414 42:01

If you could, if you could just edit in crickets, that'd be better. Dan, I will say

audiomartynley11211506414 42:09

nice one name checking Halfman Half

video1211506414 42:12

who

audiomartynley11211506414 42:12

are like an underrated band. I

video1211506414 42:15

they're amazing.

audiomartynley11211506414 42:16

Westwood Home. massive letdown. My

video1211506414 42:19

son of

audiomartynley11211506414 42:19

of theirs.

video1211506414 42:21

bad arm shit. Tattoo. All I Want for Christmas is a, a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 42:25

DLA

video1211506414 42:25

plug Wake

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 42:26

kit.

video1211506414 42:26

Yeah, that's a, is or it's cliche to be cynical at Christmas. Underrated band. Great band. That

audiomartynley11211506414 42:34

was a good, good

video1211506414 42:35

choice.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 42:37

next song Martin, we'll,

video1211506414 42:39

hear from you. one of your suggestions for the evening,

audiomartynley11211506414 42:42

I chose, mystify by in Excess. what

video1211506414 42:46

be said about them? One of the, I dunno. say it, Yeah, Please do. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 42:53

who doesn't know who

video1211506414 42:54

excess we all know need

audiomartynley11211506414 42:56

you tonight and stuff, but. Michael Hutchins had one of the greatest voices of all time. Like, hi. His voice was just so perfect, so like, fit, whatever song he was singing. So it

video1211506414 43:11

be like,

audiomartynley11211506414 43:12

mystify, which is my choice. Or it might be like, need you tonight where he is all like, sexy and shit. Or it might be

video1211506414 43:18

of

audiomartynley11211506414 43:19

of the ballads of one of the albums where it's all like, all sad and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 43:22

never

video1211506414 43:23

tear us apart. Never tear us apart.

audiomartynley11211506414 43:26

Exactly. Um, I I just think Michael Hutchins is one of the most underrated vocalists of our time.

video1211506414 43:32

yeah, I'd agree with you on that.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 43:34

I'll definitely say this is the catchier song of our playlist. I found my, I really enjoyed this song as well, actually. I don't know, listen to too much in excess I guess. But when listening through our our quite unique playlist, let's say. It was, it was a, I think it was, it was good. I

video1211506414 43:49

it.

audiomartynley11211506414 43:50

it's a great song in the sense that, even though Malcolm Hutchins voice is to the floor and it's really important and

video1211506414 43:58

can hear

audiomartynley11211506414 43:58

it like really clearly, the band itself is so good in the way they are able to, play, less, if that makes sense. So you've got

video1211506414 44:09

piano riff,

audiomartynley11211506414 44:11

that piano is fucking amazing, and then you've got that little rhythm guitar, you know, da da da. And then that lead guitar part,

video1211506414 44:20

the band are kind of going

audiomartynley11211506414 44:22

Right, what's gonna make

video1211506414 44:24

song work?

audiomartynley11211506414 44:25

let's not overblow it. they're all doing

video1211506414 44:28

own thing,

audiomartynley11211506414 44:29

in a very minimal way.

video1211506414 44:31

they're just

audiomartynley11211506414 44:31

a a great ensemble piece, in the sense that they let each instrument breathe. And there's

video1211506414 44:38

lot of space

audiomartynley11211506414 44:39

in this song. There's

video1211506414 44:40

lot of space

audiomartynley11211506414 44:41

in the sense that like nobody is trying

video1211506414 44:44

show off

audiomartynley11211506414 44:45

except for Michael Hutchins who

video1211506414 44:48

allowed to show because that's his job. An

audiomartynley11211506414 44:50

incredible voice. That's his job, So the

video1211506414 44:52

of the band,

audiomartynley11211506414 44:53

let him do his thing.

video1211506414 44:54

We'll just sit

audiomartynley11211506414 44:55

back and we'll just do the rhythm. And it is, it's a very rhythmic song. There's apart from some of the lead guitar parts, there's not a lot of melody going on in the song. It's all Michael Hutchins. a perfect example of a band who are able to let the ego to one side and go, what does the song need? And just serve

video1211506414 45:20

song. Like I

audiomartynley11211506414 45:21

I said,

video1211506414 45:22

the drummer episode. It's all about

audiomartynley11211506414 45:24

what, what does

video1211506414 45:25

song And we'll do

audiomartynley11211506414 45:27

that. And it's, like, it's not

video1211506414 45:29

me being the great

audiomartynley11211506414 45:30

guitar player. It's not

video1211506414 45:31

me being like, coolest

audiomartynley11211506414 45:33

dude in the band or whatever.

video1211506414 45:34

about going

audiomartynley11211506414 45:35

the song is the most important thing, and I think. it's one of the most well constructed songs I've ever heard. in my life.

video1211506414 45:42

I think there's a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:42

reason for that.

video1211506414 45:43

I was looking into the history of In

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:45

Excess and,

video1211506414 45:47

kick, the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:47

1987

video1211506414 45:49

album, probably their

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:50

biggest album, That

video1211506414 45:51

is from, this is actually the fifth

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:52

single from Kick.

video1211506414 45:54

was actually released two years later in 1989.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 45:57

This was the

video1211506414 45:58

first time they wrote an album. And it was just, Andy Ferris and Michael Hutchins,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:03

the keyboardist the, vocalist.

video1211506414 46:05

They wrote all the songs

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:07

as a songwriting duo.

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So it

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:09

it that

video1211506414 46:09

kind of Hall

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:10

of Outs, McCartney, Lennon

video1211506414 46:12

songwriter partnership. And that's perhaps

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:15

why the

video1211506414 46:16

served the song so well,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:18

because

video1211506414 46:19

they were written by just two people perspective of key

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:22

of

video1211506414 46:23

basically piano and, and vocal

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:25

it was all written

video1211506414 46:27

by them around those pieces as

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:29

opposed to

video1211506414 46:29

contributed by the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:31

drummer or,

video1211506414 46:32

Gary, Gary Beers,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:33

the bass player, the

video1211506414 46:34

one of the best name bass Um, his

audioAlexEvens21211506414 46:37

name's Gary. Gary.

video1211506414 46:38

Gary Gary Beers. Wow. Yep. That's a great

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:42

name.

video1211506414 46:42

love for an excess is extreme but

audiomartynley11211506414 46:45

Just seeing like the process of let's just one guy, a piano

video1211506414 46:50

and

audiomartynley11211506414 46:50

a singer,

video1211506414 46:51

and that's it.

audiomartynley11211506414 46:52

That

video1211506414 46:52

all you

audiomartynley11211506414 46:53

need. Everything

video1211506414 46:54

else is just

audiomartynley11211506414 46:55

fluff on the top, if that makes sense.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 46:58

It gives

video1211506414 46:58

it a very power pop style to it. Yeah.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:02

it

video1211506414 47:02

like it's a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:03

eighties Australian

video1211506414 47:05

sexified version of something that Todd Rungren could have done in the early seventies.

audioTom31211506414 47:10

The core isn't strong enough

video1211506414 47:11

be a Todd Rungren. oh, it may, I'm not saying in terms of quality, but in

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:14

terms of

video1211506414 47:16

trying to write pop songs

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:17

with more instruments and a more

video1211506414 47:20

jangly guitar spirit to it,

audioTom31211506414 47:23

I can see why Martin

video1211506414 47:24

in excess, but they'll never do it for me. And that's

audioTom31211506414 47:26

totally fine. but

video1211506414 47:27

can see why he likes it. Although, I will also say that we're gonna have to have

audioTom31211506414 47:31

been in excess drinking game. Cause I think Martin is now nominated in excess for more episodes than you've nominated Prince

video1211506414 47:37

for. Yeah. Yeah. I feel that that is correct and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:41

I feel

video1211506414 47:41

strangely vindicated

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 47:43

at the same

audioTom31211506414 47:44

Yeah. I thought, I thought you might, I just thought I'd bring that up,

audiomartynley11211506414 47:48

That's true. I,

video1211506414 47:49

I do bring up

audiomartynley11211506414 47:50

in excess

video1211506414 47:51

every podcast, but I love them so

audiomartynley11211506414 47:54

much.

audioJim51211506414 47:55

I'll, say something about in excess. Anyway, I, I, I quite liked that song. I'm not like hugely, hugely into it, but I really enjoyed

video1211506414 48:05

the

audioJim51211506414 48:06

Gen general piano riff and how that interacted with the vocals. and especially enjoy the minimalist chorus and like having

video1211506414 48:15

the

audioJim51211506414 48:15

bigger bit, being the verse

video1211506414 48:17

in terms of the in excess singles I mentioned, there's five

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:20

of them from this

video1211506414 48:21

album. This, I think this is my fifth

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:23

favorite, though.

video1211506414 48:24

I think it's my least favorite single from

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:26

the album kick. Cuz

video1211506414 48:27

you've got

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:27

Nja Tonight,

video1211506414 48:28

Which is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:28

a banger,

video1211506414 48:29

never tear us apart, which

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:30

I love.

video1211506414 48:31

new Sensation,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:32

which

video1211506414 48:32

did get nominated on our 87

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:34

which I love.

video1211506414 48:35

and I think the fourth was Kick Itself,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:37

title track, which is a great

video1211506414 48:38

song.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:38

So I think

video1211506414 48:40

just by de facto, this

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:41

is the fifth best

video1211506414 48:43

single on the album. Gr it's a great album. I wouldn't give this undeniable banger status just on the strength of the ever four. but

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:50

Yeah,

video1211506414 48:51

it's a great album and more

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:52

people need to be

video1211506414 48:53

aware of in Excess, I think he died at the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:56

wrong time, like

video1211506414 48:57

dying in the late

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 48:58

nineties,

video1211506414 48:59

away from the mystique of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:01

Kurt Cobain.

video1211506414 49:02

they fizzled out a little bit. He didn't die

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:04

in

video1211506414 49:05

the late

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:06

or

video1211506414 49:06

early nineties when they were super

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:09

hyped.

video1211506414 49:11

so in terms

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:11

of like, it

video1211506414 49:13

add anything mystique

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:15

of In Excess when he, when he died in the same way that

video1211506414 49:18

Nirvana were now uh,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:20

through the passing of Kurt Cobain.

video1211506414 49:22

I don't think Michael Hutchinson's death,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:24

Even despite the extraordinary

video1211506414 49:26

circumstances Of his death, I don't think they've got

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:29

kind of legacy.

video1211506414 49:30

I think Martin's right, he is an underrated vocalist. He's, somebody had his own

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:36

style, And he was just

video1211506414 49:38

pure rock and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:39

roll his lifestyle, the way he presented

video1211506414 49:42

on stage.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 49:44

A true

video1211506414 49:45

unsung hero, I think Michael I think in

audiomartynley11211506414 49:48

Excess is one of the greatest bands full-time. That's

video1211506414 49:52

hot take. I wouldn't go so

audiomartynley11211506414 49:53

they're, they are undeniably one of the greatest bands who've I've ever committed music to, to tape,

video1211506414 50:01

know, I don't even think they're top five Australian bands, but No, no, I don't think

audiomartynley11211506414 50:06

man. They, they're,

video1211506414 50:07

they are for me. they might make my top 10.

audiomartynley11211506414 50:09

listen to something. like, listen

video1211506414 50:11

someone like

audiomartynley11211506414 50:12

Suicide Blonde. You know, just, they, They're just incredible.

video1211506414 50:15

I, just, I love them. I love them. I'm a big fan. And excess

audiomartynley11211506414 50:18

are so underrated. They're so underrated that they're a bit like, um, you know, early Coldplay were great. They're a bit that in that way there people see them and go, oh, it's an excess, ah, whatever. They're actually fucking amazing

video1211506414 50:35

they're the Australian Duran. Duran. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 50:39

Yes. they are. They're the Australian

video1211506414 50:41

Duran Yeah. That's probably why I'm not a huge fan, cuz I don't like that band either. we'll move on first song that I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:48

have picked,

video1211506414 50:49

to

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:49

discuss this evening,

video1211506414 50:51

is from 1973. And,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:54

the name of the

video1211506414 50:54

song is Fence

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:55

Walk.

video1211506414 50:56

The band

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:57

that made Fence

video1211506414 50:58

Walk are

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 50:59

a

video1211506414 51:00

Latin funk band

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:01

called Mandri. and

video1211506414 51:04

they were around in

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:05

the early seventies inspired by

video1211506414 51:08

other Latin funk acts

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:09

like war.

video1211506414 51:10

and they took things instrumentally from

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:13

work that,

video1211506414 51:14

colos Santana

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:15

in

video1211506414 51:16

the band Santana

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:16

were doing. they drew influence on the work of Funkadelic earlier, in the decade and what

video1211506414 51:23

Sly and the Family Stone were doing. And they

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:24

really had this

video1211506414 51:26

Brooklyn based, but Latin inspired funk

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:29

fusion sound going on.

video1211506414 51:31

This is probably the. Most famous and best

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:34

that they ever did.

video1211506414 51:35

it's a seven minute

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:37

stomp through

video1211506414 51:39

a wonderful

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:40

unison chant,

video1211506414 51:43

over a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:43

funk groove, with

video1211506414 51:45

some amazing,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:46

amazing drums by,

video1211506414 51:48

NEFTA Santiago, Really holding

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 51:50

down that groove. lots of horns. The,

video1211506414 51:53

the Wilson Brothers, sweet Lou Wilson on trumpet, Colos Wilson's on saxophone, and Rick Dock Wilson on various other instruments. but

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:03

the

video1211506414 52:03

start of the show is ah, Omar Mesa,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:05

uh, the guitarist for Mandri

video1211506414 52:07

because from about,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:09

well,

video1211506414 52:09

about the halfway point, he really, really rips on the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:13

guitar solo.

video1211506414 52:14

and it

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:14

Transforms it from a, fun groove into

video1211506414 52:17

a really galloping,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:19

really powerful, energetic and aggressive guitar solo. And

video1211506414 52:24

I lo, I love every

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:25

second

video1211506414 52:26

I discovered it 15

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:29

years ago or so in

video1211506414 52:31

Fung songs that everybody needs to hear. And it

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:34

would be one of the first songs

video1211506414 52:35

on my of recommendations from anyone starting out

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:39

in funk that isn't just standard

video1211506414 52:42

James Brown or

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:43

something

video1211506414 52:44

this is a deep cut

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:46

in terms of funk, and is

video1211506414 52:48

so rewarding that

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:49

I just love it.

video1211506414 52:50

Every time I go back to it,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:52

find something new, something that catches me. Be it percussion, be it another

video1211506414 52:56

guitar lick,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:57

bass it,

video1211506414 52:58

The Clavinet

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 52:59

that's played,

video1211506414 53:00

on,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:00

by Claude Coffee Cave. You

video1211506414 53:02

Might

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:03

recognize the Clavinet from

video1211506414 53:04

Superstition

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:05

by Stevie Wonder. and

video1211506414 53:07

that's prominent in this song as well. It's a cauldron

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:10

of.

video1211506414 53:11

Really funky ideas and it really

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:13

comes together really well.

video1211506414 53:14

I, love this It's one of my

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:16

top songs ever.

audioJim51211506414 53:18

This, was probably my favorite on the playlist actually. I really loved it. Like, I've never heard of this band. but like the bass is phenomenal like that, the Hammond organ that's going on, or, uh, it's beautiful. it's just non-stop groove the entire way. it's exactly what I love about Parliament and Funkadelic. but just now another band I can listen to that I didn't know existed,

video1211506414 53:39

so Yeah. There's not a wealth of material

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:42

Manel.

video1211506414 53:43

there. This is their most well-known song.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:45

it was actually

video1211506414 53:46

actually covered by D'Angelo in the nineties as well. He did

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:48

an all right version of it.

video1211506414 53:49

this is their legacy.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:50

There isn't much to go

video1211506414 53:51

back, but there's certainly a band. that When you stick on an album,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:54

it's full of grooves.

video1211506414 53:55

Not as memorable as

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:56

this, but

video1211506414 53:57

yeah, definitely

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 53:58

a,

video1211506414 53:58

a prime example of a song you you are thinking

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 54:01

about

video1211506414 54:03

chasing the funk.

audioTom31211506414 54:05

what's interesting about this song if you took the horns out, you could put it on a crowd rock or a Prague album and

video1211506414 54:14

wouldn't sound outta place. No, I can hear that. Yeah. I was listening

audioTom31211506414 54:17

to it and the guitar bit in the middle, and it's like,

video1211506414 54:20

I grew up

audioTom31211506414 54:20

with, my mum was really into a German crowd rock band called Aon Jewel, and I was listening to it in the middle and I was like, yeah, if you took the horns out, it sounds

video1211506414 54:28

like Aon jewel which is not a bad thing I should add. That's not a bad

audioTom31211506414 54:34

thing, but it's, it's why I can see that this would be quite a good gateway to

video1211506414 54:39

from somebody from a Prague or a, a Prague, or even a more sort of

audioTom31211506414 54:44

nineties in like Radiohead type

video1211506414 54:47

indie background,

audioTom31211506414 54:48

because it, it has

video1211506414 54:49

lot of

audioTom31211506414 54:50

that,

video1211506414 54:50

those features in it

audiomartynley11211506414 54:52

If an alien came down to earth and was like, show me what does funk music sound like?

video1211506414 54:58

That's what I would

audiomartynley11211506414 54:59

play them. I'd be like, that,

video1211506414 55:01

that is funk.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 55:02

I mean, there's not really much more to say about this song, is

video1211506414 55:05

It It is just

audioAlexEvens21211506414 55:06

Funky as fucking at some point. Who has a sack dragon guitar solo, what

video1211506414 55:09

like it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 55:10

it?

video1211506414 55:10

and,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 55:11

this is funk enough for the funk guys to enjoy it and it's got a mean guitar bit to get some rock crossover

video1211506414 55:16

Yeah, the crossover catch in. What else do you need? Yeah, exactly. Well then from the sounds of it, I'm gonna

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 55:23

pose it. Fence Walk by man, drill.

video1211506414 55:26

Undeniable banger. Yes. Yeah, I'm agreeing. Yeah. Hundred percent yes. Uh, yes. Just,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 55:36

Uh, I'll give, adjust. It's all, it's funks, not necessarily my type of music at a moment. So, but as far as it goes, I, I assume it's a good version

video1211506414 55:45

it. It's all right. I've got like it is. Alright. I quite like it. I'd play rubber song Well, we'll get really, we'll get there. we'll get there. We'll get there. Really We'll get there. So Tom,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 56:02

bring

video1211506414 56:02

us a song

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 56:03

to tonight's conversation.

video1211506414 56:04

let's get stuck in.

audioTom31211506414 56:06

Okay, so the first one I'm gonna go for.

video1211506414 56:09

back in 2003, I went to see a gig

audioTom31211506414 56:11

in Briston Academy on a Wednesday night. So I was off school. I went with my piano teacher and

video1211506414 56:19

I went To see placebo play at Brixton Academy and

audioTom31211506414 56:21

they were supported by the eighties Matchbox B Line disaster and another band, called Color of Fire. And the singer from that band, I just had this voice that just blew me away. Anyway, uh, color of

video1211506414 56:35

then disappeared. Um, and

audioTom31211506414 56:38

a few years later I was doing a

video1211506414 56:40

of music journalism and I got sent a

audioTom31211506414 56:43

compilation CD from a leads based record label

video1211506414 56:47

Dance to the Radio.

audioTom31211506414 56:49

And there was a track on there called Shipping Forecast by a band called Grammatics that was. One of the greatest things

video1211506414 56:56

ever heard

audioTom31211506414 56:56

at the time, like it's, his voice is amazing. It's, they're, they're

video1211506414 57:00

piece guitar, cello, bass, and drums. Everything was really well put together.

audioTom31211506414 57:06

And

video1211506414 57:06

they released their first album, which is

audioTom31211506414 57:09

probably, it's definitely in

video1211506414 57:10

top five albums of all time. And I used to

audioTom31211506414 57:12

to go round to my friend Lewis' on a Friday and it'd be one

video1211506414 57:15

the albums we used to listen

audioTom31211506414 57:16

to before we'd

video1211506414 57:17

out in town.

audioTom31211506414 57:18

And

video1211506414 57:18

after the album, they released a

audioTom31211506414 57:20

single that wasn't

video1211506414 57:22

the album originally. And it's that single that I've

audioTom31211506414 57:24

picked and it's a track

video1211506414 57:25

Double Negative. it came out and it just

audioTom31211506414 57:29

absolutely blew me away. And I

video1211506414 57:30

what makes

audioTom31211506414 57:30

me really upset is that this band never went on to make another album in

video1211506414 57:35

vein of this track, because an album in the vein of

audioTom31211506414 57:38

this track would be amazing. I mean, the thing that's the thing that's so incredible, I'm so impressive about this band, is you listen, if you took any

video1211506414 57:46

the instruments out,

audioTom31211506414 57:48

what's very interesting is they lay

video1211506414 57:50

a bass and a drum groove, and the bass

audioTom31211506414 57:52

tone massive. And then the guitar part and the cello part are really just providing these like little sharp accents. And then

video1211506414 58:03

it

audioTom31211506414 58:03

kicks into the chorus, he brings this melody part

video1211506414 58:05

on the

audioTom31211506414 58:06

the guitar. That's just heartbreaking. his vocal just absolutely sores in the chorus. he's one of my favorite vocalists. And then he just throws in this like really dissonant scream that just is just a really

video1211506414 58:21

snippet. And then it's out again. when they repeat sections, so it

audioTom31211506414 58:25

it does verse chorus, uh, it takes quite a while to get to the first chorus, but when the verse is repeat, they play it ever

video1211506414 58:31

slightly differently each time. And

audioTom31211506414 58:33

it's just really cleverly put together. The chorus is catchy. it's heavy. Without using distorted guitars particularly like it, there's no, there's no like crunching riff yet. It still sounds humongous. Like I,

video1211506414 58:47

what more, more can I say about it? Like it's, it's beautiful. It's got it's propulsive. Um, it's well put together and

audioTom31211506414 58:56

I wish the band had carried on. He is actually now in another band called

video1211506414 59:00

Much Future, who I don't like as much as

audioTom31211506414 59:06

But

video1211506414 59:06

good.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 59:07

I thought he sounded like the singer of

video1211506414 59:09

Hoosiers.

audioJim51211506414 59:10

Yeah, he does.

audioTom31211506414 59:11

a little

video1211506414 59:12

bit, but better. Yeah. I, yeah, I, I, actually

audioAlexEvens21211506414 59:15

would disagree. I thought Hoosiers Singer was a bit more powerful in this delivery,

video1211506414 59:18

you know, I've been difficult. I've, I've seen,

audioTom31211506414 59:23

I've seen the Hosiers Live and I've seen Grammatics live supporting Block party in Plymouth. Um, yeah, they

video1211506414 59:29

actually played in Plymouth, a band that did Wow. Um,

audioTom31211506414 59:32

uh, and live Owen Brinley definitely has a more

audioAlexEvens21211506414 59:36

I, I'm sure that's true. I, I'm only based purely off CDs, but, I thought a song's all right. I mean, I'm, upfront. I don't think this is necessarily a bango. I think it's pretty good, but I guess I didn't get the love that Tom did initially when he

video1211506414 59:48

to it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 59:49

Sorry, Tom.

video1211506414 59:51

No, number. No,

audioJim51211506414 59:55

they're a great band. This is a great song. I probably, I think I, I must have had the album from before they attached this to it. Um, cuz I, I don't know this song at all and I know that know the album fairly well.

video1211506414 1:00:08

and

audioJim51211506414 1:00:09

yeah, it's, it's good. I'd probably, I'd probably say most of the songs on the album are better than a, than It, but that might just be that I'd not heard it until the other day.

audioTom31211506414 1:00:19

Yeah. the whole album is, is brilliant. there's not a bad track on it. Whereas I think as a standalone track, I like this one

video1211506414 1:00:28

better. It doesn't actually, I don't

audioTom31211506414 1:00:31

find

video1211506414 1:00:31

fits on the album very well when you get the vinyl, they've like

audioTom31211506414 1:00:34

tacked it on at the end with a

video1211506414 1:00:36

of other

audioTom31211506414 1:00:36

tracks and it doesn't flow into it

video1211506414 1:00:38

well. But it's,

audioTom31211506414 1:00:40

I

video1211506414 1:00:41

I just love the

audioTom31211506414 1:00:42

chorus of this song so

video1211506414 1:00:43

that I've listened to this song and

audioTom31211506414 1:00:45

and repeat like

audioJim51211506414 1:00:47

it's a great chorus.

video1211506414 1:00:49

I, I really

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:00:50

like this song. my notes here

video1211506414 1:00:51

says, it sounds like Alpha Beat on steroids. Do you remember Alpha Beat

audioTom31211506414 1:00:56

I do remember

video1211506414 1:00:57

Beat. they were around about the same time. Reminded me of that late two thousands

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:01

indie pop vibe.

video1211506414 1:01:02

This is instrumentally much better.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:04

It's very catchy

video1211506414 1:01:05

that, keep your

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:06

lipstick on its four, four in a day.

video1211506414 1:01:08

It's an interesting

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:09

refrain because I get the sense it's quite bitter at somebody becoming

video1211506414 1:01:14

a bit

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:14

promiscuous, because they look better now.

video1211506414 1:01:17

it surprised me. It was in four

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:18

four for a start. Um, I was like, wow. To Tom. Tom's

video1211506414 1:01:22

gone

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:22

four,

video1211506414 1:01:23

four. It's got a bit. of a. weird sound effect,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:26

used As percussion throughout the song. That's,

video1211506414 1:01:29

a 2010s

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:30

pop staple.

video1211506414 1:01:31

So it was a bit of ahead of its time

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:33

in that respect. I thought it was

video1211506414 1:01:34

excellent.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:35

I really rated song

video1211506414 1:01:37

and I did listen to a couple of others from

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:39

the album as well.

video1211506414 1:01:40

I was surprised I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:41

hadn't heard of these.

video1211506414 1:01:42

I really liked, is it Dilemma?

audioTom31211506414 1:01:45

yeah, that was gonna be my other nomination.

video1211506414 1:01:47

That was that, that, that's another good one. But I think I slightly

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:49

preferred this song, so I'm glad you

video1211506414 1:01:51

go with this one. It's a thumbs up for me. Yeah, absolutely. Love it. Am

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:01:56

gonna be the

video1211506414 1:01:56

the guy? Am I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:01:59

Call

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:01:59

all right. I,

video1211506414 1:02:00

it's alright. I've been that guy.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:03

It's just a great track. It's just well put together like great musicians, you know. And, um, when I listen to music, I, I, I listen to the musicianship. I listen to each individual part and I go like, what are you bringing

video1211506414 1:02:16

the table?

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:17

And that song makes me think that's

video1211506414 1:02:20

of a band I want to get

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:22

more into because

video1211506414 1:02:24

it's only one album. album. Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:26

Yeah.

video1211506414 1:02:27

But it's obvious they're all

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:28

great musicians and

video1211506414 1:02:30

I want to hear more

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:31

of that. I just love bands where

video1211506414 1:02:34

each

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:34

musician. Is fucking incredible

video1211506414 1:02:37

their own way, but

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:39

like, just like bring their own

video1211506414 1:02:41

humility

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:42

to the finished product and. That song that Tom nominated greats, it's like, it's a really good example of that. You know, it's like they're great musicians and they're not like trying to out show anyone. They're just going like,

video1211506414 1:02:57

I'm good at this

audiomartynley11211506414 1:02:58

thing. And they

video1211506414 1:02:59

that thing

audiomartynley11211506414 1:03:00

really well. I wouldn't mind

video1211506414 1:03:02

them a little bit more, to be

audiomartynley11211506414 1:03:04

fair. But it didn't

video1211506414 1:03:06

blow my mind

audiomartynley11211506414 1:03:07

or anything. I was

video1211506414 1:03:08

like, yeah, that's

audiomartynley11211506414 1:03:09

fucking, there's

video1211506414 1:03:10

some good musician.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:03:11

musicians

video1211506414 1:03:12

It's doing it thing, So Al if you'd

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:03:29

like to, introduce us

video1211506414 1:03:30

to your second song of the Evening.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:03:32

Oh, well, yeah, of course. I'd

video1211506414 1:03:34

to.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:03:35

As I procrastinate,

video1211506414 1:03:36

as I,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:03:38

Can't

video1211506414 1:03:38

what it is.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:03:40

as I procrastinate, as I tried to, oh God, I didn't get a Wikipedia paid up. Page up for this one. Alright, well anyways, icp, Pocus, Pocus and It Fucking Rules have anyone's ever

video1211506414 1:03:50

heard it?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:03:51

Guys from from Detroit is on their fourth album. Great. Meco. Um, I own the album. Uh, listen, not the, it's not the best album.

video1211506414 1:04:04

I'll be

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:05

I'll be brutally honest. Um, I had, uh, a one after it The Amazing Jeal Brothers, which was quite frankly

video1211506414 1:04:12

awful when I was

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:14

like 13, 14. I pretty much convinced myself that they were good. Uh,

video1211506414 1:04:19

are not, they are truly,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:20

truly awful. If you, if you guys haven't seen the one

video1211506414 1:04:23

where they just have the,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:24

it's like they're on a Christian album when they just have one song and it just goes like, isn't life amazing? But

video1211506414 1:04:30

yeah, it's like the one where, they,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:04:31

where, where the lyrics say,

video1211506414 1:04:32

uh,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:04:32

fucking magnets, man.

video1211506414 1:04:34

How does that work? Yeah, it's incredible.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:37

It's like, it's like the, it's

video1211506414 1:04:38

most dumb

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:39

ass. What, what's that song called? but it's the most dumb ass music ever. But this song here, I will maintain slaps, uh, the single most people would've heard is

video1211506414 1:04:51

fact

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:52

made by our boy Nevins, who remix? The single version

video1211506414 1:04:55

this

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:04:56

is, yeah. NE's Fellow. That was completely not planned, that was just found out on

video1211506414 1:05:01

before coming on

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:02

the podcast. So that

video1211506414 1:05:03

is

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:04

proof, as ICP would say, like magnets that God

video1211506414 1:05:07

is real.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:09

Um, but yeah, I, I really like the song. I obviously the lyric, the complete trash, but it's, it's

video1211506414 1:05:13

to, Obviously Yeah, it's I see it's the same clown posse, That's, but

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:17

it's supposed to be trash cuz they're, you know, they're obviously, you know, rapping about a fictitious, you know, circus and all that stuff. And, I like the, the groove in the, I like the beat in it. I think that flow is actually really good. So I like their delivery. and it, it genuinely makes me laugh in some places. The dumbest lyrics ever,

video1211506414 1:05:36

know, like what

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:38

Lanko what? It's always one of my favorite ones. Like Manko, he asked me for free wishes.

video1211506414 1:05:42

So that might have

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:42

fucked free fat bitches.

video1211506414 1:05:44

mean, that's

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:44

just fucking hilarious

video1211506414 1:05:48

Like,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:49

like how dumb is that? I dunno. I just really liked

video1211506414 1:05:51

song and

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:53

it was because as I said, I was picking his rather

video1211506414 1:05:55

flippantly.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:05:57

The, uh, day before I picked, I went on a, about a two hour ICP marathon on YouTube bar stoned.

video1211506414 1:06:03

And

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:06:06

And I just in my head, so I was like, you know what? I do like that song.

audioJim51211506414 1:06:09

And whoever said cannabis impairs your judgment.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:06:16

It's a pretty good song. I mean,

video1211506414 1:06:17

I, I, I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:06:18

I, I will never say ICP are good cuz they quite frankly had made some awful songs. Well, I think this one is, uh, one of their few diamonds in the rough. And uh, I think it's just a

video1211506414 1:06:29

listen,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:06:29

like Yeah, it

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:06:30

a lot

video1211506414 1:06:31

a lot more rough than Diamond there.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:06:32

Wait, it's, it is very much. Yeah, but it's in that, it's in a hiphop style of like house of pain and stuff music wise and, you know, their flow's not bad, isn't it? It's always not. I, I think the way to do it's rather unique and pretty good. And if you can get your head around the quite friendly juvenile li Bizkit era sort of lyrics, you,

video1211506414 1:06:52

really, you wouldn't really enjoy it. because that's the song If you could pretend it's a different song, than yeah, maybe I, I, might,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:00

yeah. But it's fun. I mean like,

video1211506414 1:07:01

it's, don't why I said like, how can we take

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:04

the clown rap group seriously.

video1211506414 1:07:08

I mean, the lyrics aren't like, you

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:10

know, they don't re reflect society enough. It's like, fuck off. It's, it's some clowns rapping with a bit of swearing to make your parents angry and

video1211506414 1:07:17

funny and I just, I just don't, I just don't understand

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:07:21

you can like this

video1211506414 1:07:22

and simultaneously be a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:07:24

Cyprus Hill fan, because

video1211506414 1:07:25

this just sounds

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:07:26

like what would

video1211506414 1:07:27

happen if you gave Cyprus Hill a lobotomy?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:31

why is that a bad thing? I

video1211506414 1:07:32

enjoy it. Yeah,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:33

that's exactly why

video1211506414 1:07:34

like this It's insane in the no brain. It's incredible.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:38

It's, it is, it is great. I mean, come on. Like, How many rap songs do you guys

video1211506414 1:07:41

like, which is

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:42

just juvenile

video1211506414 1:07:43

stupid. I mean, quite a few. I mean, f marketing of them easily

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:07:47

does between, for everyone. Like, you know, talking about social mobility or something song you have, you have eight songs about, you know, fucking bitches, I mean and you listen to the album and enjoy the album. Just, just think of this is one of those dumb songs which

video1211506414 1:08:02

Yeah. But the problem is feet.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:04

the problem is it's that their entire discography is the

video1211506414 1:08:07

same thing over and over We're

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:08:08

not judging that. We're not judging, that we're

video1211506414 1:08:10

judging this song. We're judging one song. We're judging. Yeah, this merit. yeah, we are. overly

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:08:15

critical would be, I think wrong and quite frankly, be

video1211506414 1:08:18

yourself. so, I've I'm gonna read from my notes here

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:24

cuz I've written,

video1211506414 1:08:25

this is the worst song on this list

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:26

by some distance.

video1211506414 1:08:28

An annoying,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:29

pointless, shrill, limp, anemic skin tag

video1211506414 1:08:32

tag of a hip

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:33

hop duo. Run the streets of Cairo into the ground as they sing about former W c W Cruise oh eight Champion. The Man of a Thousand Holds Dean Meko.

video1211506414 1:08:44

I don't know

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:45

if it's

video1211506414 1:08:46

actually about

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:46

him because

video1211506414 1:08:47

I can't listen to

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:48

their charmless flow without wishing I was listening to something better

video1211506414 1:08:52

like the Go

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:52

Compare adverts. This is trash.

video1211506414 1:08:55

All four bad

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:08:56

bunny songs that we listen to are better than this. And it's

video1211506414 1:08:59

Jeremy Kyle Show of Rap Metal, I think you

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:03

literally made up your mind before you even listened to it. That's my honest opinion. like

video1211506414 1:09:09

of, but then I listen to it limp about five times.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:12

but what part of its limp.

video1211506414 1:09:13

not a lymph song. The, their,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:09:15

flow is so like,

video1211506414 1:09:16

Donald Trump.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:09:17

It's like

video1211506414 1:09:18

I the best in the best. It is just rubbish. It's just that every

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:21

rap. Does every rap? Or

video1211506414 1:09:22

you

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:22

you talking about?

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:09:23

Yeah. But the,

video1211506414 1:09:24

the other rappers sound okay. You

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:26

you talked little sims earlier, right? Does she big

video1211506414 1:09:28

up in the songs? Yeah. But she sound

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:31

uh, uh. Invalid.

video1211506414 1:09:32

Invalid then. Sorry.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:34

Uh, ICP is still good. Next person.

video1211506414 1:09:38

I'll, I'll actually, I will actually go out. Go so far as to say I didn't particularly hate this. Wait, And you hated loads

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:09:45

of what people hear Deemed good rap songs, which

video1211506414 1:09:48

must make pretty good I appreciate most

audioTom31211506414 1:09:52

Insane clown paste I've listened to, I have absolutely

video1211506414 1:09:56

hated,

audioTom31211506414 1:09:57

I cannot understand why

video1211506414 1:09:59

chose to make four concept albums

audioTom31211506414 1:10:03

about the same thing.

video1211506414 1:10:05

I mean, there's a geniuses

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:10:08

A

video1211506414 1:10:08

in generation Tom. Yeah. But

audioTom31211506414 1:10:10

like, I

video1211506414 1:10:11

You generate an X Exactly. I don't, I don't,

audioTom31211506414 1:10:15

I think I quite

video1211506414 1:10:16

their delivery and I

audioTom31211506414 1:10:17

I quite like what they've done with the samples on it. It's fine.

video1211506414 1:10:21

like it's, I'm not

audioTom31211506414 1:10:22

gonna be giving

video1211506414 1:10:23

any sort of banger

audioTom31211506414 1:10:24

status,

video1211506414 1:10:25

I could rip the band apart, but I can't rip this song apart.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:10:30

Is anyone else, uh, not heavily biased against icp,

video1211506414 1:10:33

we there's a reason I'm heavily biased against icp and it's cuz they're awful

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:10:40

but

video1211506414 1:10:40

why do you think that this is an awful I other songs? We we're all,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:10:44

we've all completely agreed there other songs

video1211506414 1:10:46

awful. But this song, a couple months ago we did, we did early

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:10:49

nineties hip hop, right? And we, we

video1211506414 1:10:51

listened to so many songs that sounded

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:10:53

like this probably seven years before this song came out. And

video1211506414 1:10:57

all of them sounded more ahead of their time than this one. Oh,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:11:01

oh, actually Fry. What do you prefer? This song or any runner

video1211506414 1:11:04

song you. I pick this. Overrun the jewels anytime. Yeah.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:11:11

So this is already betting than some of the top hip hop we've already decided upon

video1211506414 1:11:16

I just hate run the jewels so much though. Like, I I,

audioTom31211506414 1:11:21

the

video1211506414 1:11:21

that annoys

audioTom31211506414 1:11:22

me is the individual members have run

video1211506414 1:11:23

jewels. I like

audioTom31211506414 1:11:24

everything they've done outside of Run the Jewels. But

video1211506414 1:11:27

about Run the jewels. I hate,

audioTom31211506414 1:11:29

I hate run the Jewels more than Insane

video1211506414 1:11:32

Posse. I would rather listen

audioTom31211506414 1:11:35

to Insane Clown Posse's entire

video1211506414 1:11:37

back to back

audioTom31211506414 1:11:38

back than a single run

video1211506414 1:11:39

Jewels.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:11:40

Hey, let no, no,

video1211506414 1:11:40

let's not

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:11:41

say anything we can't take back. Okay? Like even I, I like icp and

video1211506414 1:11:44

I know 99% of it's just horrible

audioTom31211506414 1:11:48

Yeah. But I'd still rather listen

video1211506414 1:11:50

it than run the Jewels

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:11:54

well,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:11:55

fighting words.

video1211506414 1:11:57

come on Martin.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:12:00

You must have

audioTom31211506414 1:12:02

an

video1211506414 1:12:02

Let Martin, please let Martin like this song I don't think you're in luck there, man.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:12:09

it doesn't sound far

video1211506414 1:12:10

FCI pain. Before

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:12:11

say, before you start talking,

video1211506414 1:12:13

I love old school hip hop, you know?

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:15

And, um I'm A

video1211506414 1:12:16

A massive run

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:17

the Jewels fan. Sorry Tom. Uh,

video1211506414 1:12:20

like, yeah, it was, I, I enj I enjoyed the

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:24

beat. I enjoyed, but it was

video1211506414 1:12:26

very lazy sample choice. I was just kind of like, well

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:32

it just wasn't very clever

video1211506414 1:12:35

I didn't like it a lot. Oh, well, But it was not supposed to be clever, so

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:39

I know. I just, I, I

video1211506414 1:12:41

dunno man, I

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:41

I just didn't like it that much. I

video1211506414 1:12:44

of

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:44

dug the whole, I kind of dug the beat. I was like, yeah, I wanna fucking dance my room around to this. But like, I was kind of, there are other

video1211506414 1:12:52

like,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:53

uh, hip hop

video1211506414 1:12:54

eyes. I'd rather

audiomartynley11211506414 1:12:56

listen to.

video1211506414 1:12:57

Oh, that's what I'm saying.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:12:59

yeah,

video1211506414 1:13:00

All I'm saying

audiomartynley11211506414 1:13:03

Al I

video1211506414 1:13:04

just, I did,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:13:05

I don't wanna piss you off man, cuz

video1211506414 1:13:06

are one of my

audiomartynley11211506414 1:13:07

favorite people on earth and you know

video1211506414 1:13:08

that, don't you cross me

audiomartynley11211506414 1:13:11

I won't,

video1211506414 1:13:13

but no, you're just like

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:13:15

I'm not, I'm

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:13:16

It's pretty universal.

video1211506414 1:13:18

I'm not hosting a podcast where

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:13:20

kicks off about pop

video1211506414 1:13:21

punk one week and then next week we're all decided that all of his songs are amazing cuz we can't be Popp to

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:13:26

to argue

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:13:27

I will die on the hill. The hill

video1211506414 1:13:29

this you're listening to the Confirmation Bias podcast with Alex Evens. this is what happens when you talk about Insane Clown Posse on a music podcast. We have fun and laugh. downhill. sharp jump. I

audiomartynley11211506414 1:13:43

p shit.

video1211506414 1:13:44

Yeah.

audioJim51211506414 1:13:46

I remember when you got the great, great Lanko album, Alex, when we were teenagers, and I I I remember us listening to the first few tracks. So there's, there's great melan and then that's followed by Hocus Pocus, isn't it?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:00

was their first single off the album?

video1211506414 1:14:02

yeah.

audioJim51211506414 1:14:02

Yeah. Also, also a borderline banger.

video1211506414 1:14:07

what is that? it's our, banger. If you've got borderline personality disorder,

audioJim51211506414 1:14:14

I was quite excited to go back to this, this song after so many years, cuz I literally haven't listened to it since, since you had that album on in your mom's living room. And, I was slightly disappointed because it's not as good as I remember, but it's still pretty good

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:30

still not bad. I mean, okay, maybe it's not a banger. Maybe more of a party. Popper,

video1211506414 1:14:39

yeah.

audioJim51211506414 1:14:39

Just to like get the mood up at a party

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:42

put this way. All

video1211506414 1:14:43

know is

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:43

like at the Old Rock Club where we used to spend time, this song was on a weekly playlist.

video1211506414 1:14:50

everyone enjoyed

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:50

it, so I got, I'm

video1211506414 1:14:51

the only

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:52

one you just have to dress like a late two thousands golf to

video1211506414 1:14:55

enjoy it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:14:59

So how many jugglers

video1211506414 1:15:01

Dad?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:15:02

we, we,

audioJim51211506414 1:15:05

For Hocus Pocus, we are Juggalos.

audioTom31211506414 1:15:12

I'm sorry, Dan.

video1211506414 1:15:13

Now we can move on. Yeah. Yeah. Not bad. I'll take it.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:15:17

let's do it. Jim, your second choice of the

audioJim51211506414 1:15:21

Yeah.

video1211506414 1:15:21

tell us all about it before I go into my

audioJim51211506414 1:15:23

before you go Insane Clown Posse,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:15:26

Oh,

video1211506414 1:15:27

just, no, just move

audioJim51211506414 1:15:29

I think Witty might be becoming a Juggalo. Hello

video1211506414 1:15:32

This Juggalo Jilo. Thank you.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:15:36

are we the RCP episodes

video1211506414 1:15:37

next week. yeah. Yeah. When, when I'm, gonna be the first. I'm, I'm not in the country, so yes.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:15:45

Deep dive. What's their

video1211506414 1:15:46

album? It's a lot of homework, but

audioJim51211506414 1:15:48

plot twist, all of them.

video1211506414 1:15:51

Okay. Sorry.

audioJim51211506414 1:15:52

so yeah, my second pick is,

video1211506414 1:15:54

by a

audioJim51211506414 1:15:55

German technical deaf or band, named Nacr. It's from the 2004 album Epitaph and the song is Stab Wounded. I've picked this because I feel this album particularly is the definitive technical death metal album. the drumming on this entire album is phenomenal. The guitars are incredible. It's just like sweet picking left, right, and center. If you're a guitarist and you like technical guitar playing, Then this album has everything and then the bass as well, like the bassist is insane. It's just constant runs and

video1211506414 1:16:39

gorgeousness. So I think it

audioJim51211506414 1:16:41

sh should appeal to Little

video1211506414 1:16:42

as well. the first word

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:16:44

would've thought of

video1211506414 1:16:44

when we're

audioJim51211506414 1:16:45

and,

video1211506414 1:16:45

I'm Justing.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:16:46

got my band name

video1211506414 1:16:47

runs of Gorgeousness

audioJim51211506414 1:16:50

And to add to that, I think that, The vocals are amongst the best, death metal growl vocals out there.

video1211506414 1:16:58

Can't Do it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:16:59

Do it. I, uh, when James picked this, I was

video1211506414 1:17:02

yes,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:17:04

certified. Get it on the blog spot.

video1211506414 1:17:06

Baggers.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:17:08

I'm sure this

video1211506414 1:17:09

sail through

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:12

Do

video1211506414 1:17:12

know what? I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:14

love this song,

video1211506414 1:17:15

Yeah,

audioJim51211506414 1:17:16

What

video1211506414 1:17:17

thought it was excellent. with death metal, I'm either gonna

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:20

Love it or hate it.

video1211506414 1:17:21

And the first

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:22

Seconds, I'm like, okay, I like the drums, I like the drum.

video1211506414 1:17:24

And then I'm like, oh, but here

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:25

comes the inevitable death growling bit.

video1211506414 1:17:27

I always find it comically funny and I can't take it seriously.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:30

And I'm like,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:17:30

can be a little cookie Monster.

video1211506414 1:17:32

And then the vocals come

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:33

in and I was like, okay.

video1211506414 1:17:35

I, quite like that.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:36

It's intimidating

video1211506414 1:17:38

and, it's

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:39

harsh as fuck, but it, doesn't make me laugh.

video1211506414 1:17:42

So, it is a winner for a death growl. It's fine with Odd egg for

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:17:45

what

video1211506414 1:17:46

doing,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:17:46

it's doing.

video1211506414 1:17:46

I really like this

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:47

song. it's not my favorite on the

video1211506414 1:17:48

but I certainly preferred

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:50

to wonk unit.

video1211506414 1:17:51

I couldn't find too much

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:52

about the band.

video1211506414 1:17:53

I can see the, they're, German and they've got some fantastic names,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:56

in

video1211506414 1:17:56

the, in the group,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:58

What we got here.

video1211506414 1:17:59

so we

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:17:59

have,

video1211506414 1:18:00

Christian

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:01

Minner is on league guitar,

video1211506414 1:18:03

Stephan Fers on the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:05

the bass, Hannah Grossman on drums.

video1211506414 1:18:08

And, Mohammed swick me on vocals. So

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:18:11

I was expecting them to have stage names. When you said they had funny names, what? They're just

video1211506414 1:18:15

names yeah, That you, that you manage, that you've just managed, you've just managed to murder those names as well. if we have got any

audioTom31211506414 1:18:25

German listeners,

video1211506414 1:18:26

really sorry. I'll better our cool names like Spleen Eater or something like that. that's why I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:31

love the names, because they're just. German

video1211506414 1:18:33

names

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:34

You would expect them

video1211506414 1:18:34

to have to

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:35

have station names, but

video1211506414 1:18:36

no, they're just German guys.

audioJim51211506414 1:18:38

I will point out it tends to be black metal when they have stage names. Not really, doesn't really happen in deaf metal.

video1211506414 1:18:43

ah, sorry.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:18:45

So say a defeat in

video1211506414 1:18:47

Mork. can,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:50

no,.You

video1211506414 1:18:52

had a chance to nominate it and you didn't. I I, I haven't said a

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:18:55

said thing. I mentioned a member of a band I like, I haven't said

video1211506414 1:18:57

song or.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:18:58

Okay. Okay.

video1211506414 1:18:59

My notes

audioTom31211506414 1:19:00

say they fit a lot of sections in just

video1211506414 1:19:03

minutes.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:19:03

They do

video1211506414 1:19:04

yeah,

audioTom31211506414 1:19:06

Weirdly, I'm quite happy with death. Metal grows and Doom Metal screams.

video1211506414 1:19:10

only metal vocal I don't like

audioTom31211506414 1:19:12

is the operatic song vocal. so long as it doesn't have aung operatic vocal. So

video1211506414 1:19:17

like, I can't, I can't abide that. like, Dream theater. Dream Diamond is the worst. of that. So like, it Dream Theater upset me so

audioTom31211506414 1:19:25

much because they're so good musically and I hate

video1211506414 1:19:28

vocals. Um, and like,

audioTom31211506414 1:19:30

and like Dragon Force can fuck off. Um,

video1211506414 1:19:33

but like this death

audioTom31211506414 1:19:34

metal I'm

video1211506414 1:19:35

in.

audioTom31211506414 1:19:36

Like I'm totally on board. the only thing I

video1211506414 1:19:39

don't like,

audioTom31211506414 1:19:40

um, it doesn't destroy the

video1211506414 1:19:42

on this one, but it doesn't a lot.

audioTom31211506414 1:19:44

lot. I really don't like when you have a

video1211506414 1:19:48

double bass going the whole way through a song. I really don't like that. Apart from that. And it's quite tiring to listen to. Yeah. Everything else about this song I love was finding myself

audioTom31211506414 1:19:57

like EQing the bass down so I could reduce how much to the bass

video1211506414 1:20:00

I had. And then

audioTom31211506414 1:20:01

it was

video1211506414 1:20:02

brilliant if they wanted to

audioTom31211506414 1:20:04

to put it forward

video1211506414 1:20:04

a banger, I wouldn't stop it. Hey,

audioJim51211506414 1:20:08

All right, Martin, it's down to you.

video1211506414 1:20:11

Yeah. Whack it in

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:20:17

Hey bro.

video1211506414 1:20:20

Jim is like, Jim is like, how, how of Negra done it.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:20:25

Of all the, of all the deaf metal stuff I put for, that's nowhere near, but the, the first like proper tech metal one is going

video1211506414 1:20:32

fl through I have

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:33

to

video1211506414 1:20:33

admit with this song, I wasn't prepared even

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:35

after the first listen, I was like,

video1211506414 1:20:37

I'll go back to it and I won't like

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:38

it so much. And the second time was like, I like it more.

video1211506414 1:20:40

Third time I'm like, yeah.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:42

Fully sold on this song.

video1211506414 1:20:43

I don't even wanna listen to the rest of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:44

the album because

video1211506414 1:20:45

I can't see

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:20:46

them sustaining me for that an

video1211506414 1:20:48

extended period of time. I just, I just like the three, four minutes of this song and it's, it's just great. I don't need anymore.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:20:54

I've always felt for the band a bit, because this is in my like opinion, I think this is their

video1211506414 1:20:58

song,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:00

but it also happens to be the first track of, I think it's their only album.

audioJim51211506414 1:21:04

Second album.

video1211506414 1:21:04

got two album.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:06

Uh, so what

audioJim51211506414 1:21:06

but, but, but this is their only real album. Cause the first album's got drum machine on it, so it's borderline unlistenable.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:11

ah, fair enough. But this is, it was just made me chuckle. Cause it's just the best thing they did and that was it. And then everything after this one track

video1211506414 1:21:18

not as good

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:20

as it. I think the album does get a little bit tiring. Like, like

video1211506414 1:21:23

say, like

audioJim51211506414 1:21:24

Yeah. There, there's, there's

video1211506414 1:21:25

Double bass is hard to listen to, Like,

audioJim51211506414 1:21:27

there's moments later on the album. And, and, and every track has like an amazing bit. But like, yeah, this is the standout, definitely

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:36

great song.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:21:37

Yeah. Undeniable

video1211506414 1:21:38

banger. There we go. Martin. Second song of the Evening. Please. What's it gonna be? Nirvana. All apologies.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:21:46

none of you need me to

video1211506414 1:21:48

tell you about

audiomartynley11211506414 1:21:49

Nirvana,

video1211506414 1:21:51

nav? No. please do though. Indulge

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:21:53

a little bit.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:21:54

Come on. One of the greatest singers, songwriters

video1211506414 1:21:57

our

audiomartynley11211506414 1:21:57

generation.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:21:59

Yeah. Dave Gro was, he was, a singer in that before food

video1211506414 1:22:01

wasn't he?

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:02

He was, yeah. He was in,

video1211506414 1:22:03

he was in the Nirvanas

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:05

The best Nirvana album is

video1211506414 1:22:07

Uter,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:08

obviously.

video1211506414 1:22:09

Correct, I

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:09

Um, and it starts off extremely aggressively and like it

video1211506414 1:22:14

ends

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:15

on this just

video1211506414 1:22:17

plaintiff,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:18

beautiful note

video1211506414 1:22:19

I dunno what

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:20

Kurt Cobain was going for with this song. Nobody knows,

video1211506414 1:22:23

nobody

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:25

can say what he was

video1211506414 1:22:26

singing about, but

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:27

like, just this, the whole like

video1211506414 1:22:31

violence

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:32

and like brutal aggression of in utero and

video1211506414 1:22:36

to end on

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:37

this beautifully like melodic, mellow track. It hits me hard and also as,

video1211506414 1:22:47

a man who's been

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:47

married twice and, you know, and

video1211506414 1:22:49

you know, being in relationships the,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:53

the lyrics like

video1211506414 1:22:54

Married, buried, hits

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:57

home. Like, it's

video1211506414 1:22:58

of like,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:22:59

uh, a sense of like,

video1211506414 1:23:01

when you are

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:02

are in a relationship, when you feel like kind of, you are

video1211506414 1:23:05

are tied to that

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:06

relationship to the point where you

video1211506414 1:23:09

be yourself

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:10

anymore. That's What

video1211506414 1:23:13

that

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:13

says to me. Like, it is a weird thing. I, I just think

video1211506414 1:23:17

it's an incredible

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:18

song.

video1211506414 1:23:20

It also is like,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:23

it's Kurt

video1211506414 1:23:24

best melody.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:25

It, it's the best

video1211506414 1:23:27

he has

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:28

ever come up with that it's just, it's beautiful

video1211506414 1:23:34

every

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:35

way.

video1211506414 1:23:36

said that like, That

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:38

song is a suicide note

video1211506414 1:23:39

and I don't agree with that. Well, it was the final single, wasn't it? almost,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:44

it's

video1211506414 1:23:45

final

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:45

single. And it is,

video1211506414 1:23:46

The end note, like

audiomartynley11211506414 1:23:49

to Nirvana's career, to Kurt campaign's career. And it's like the last thing that anyone has

video1211506414 1:23:55

ever heard

audioTom31211506414 1:23:57

The last track he recorded,

video1211506414 1:23:58

The last track he recorded, was, you know, you're right. last was the last was the Greatest hits for me 10 years later. Yeah, I know. But

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:04

yeah, but

video1211506414 1:24:05

doesn't count

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:06

because that wasn't

video1211506414 1:24:07

recorded

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:08

for the album. And you know, it is like when, when you look at Nirvana and you look at the three albums, you bleach, nevermind and in Utero,

video1211506414 1:24:15

the last

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:15

track on the utero. Other than that like weird fucking, like hidden track. It is all apologies. It's almost like Kurt Cobain going like, I'm off now, you know? Thank you

video1211506414 1:24:27

much. to the

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:27

I've had a, I've had, a great, yeah, I'm off to the shops. I

video1211506414 1:24:31

ever coming

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:31

back and that's the thing I

video1211506414 1:24:33

ever coming back and that's what it says to me. It almost

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:36

sounds like, it does sound like

video1211506414 1:24:39

urbain suicide note. It, it does. My theory on it is that it's a sequel to,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:24:44

SMUs like Teen Spirit

video1211506414 1:24:46

it takes the same

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:24:46

concept of SMUs, like

video1211506414 1:24:48

Teen Spirit, and that it's got all these kind of non-sequitur bits in

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:24:51

it. What

video1211506414 1:24:51

should I say? Everybody's gay. It sounds like a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:24:54

placeholder lyric.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:24:56

That's a weird lyric to throw in there as well. When you look at the whole lyric sheet, it's thrown in. there. it doesn't fit with the rest of the lyrics.

video1211506414 1:25:03

And you've

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:03

got, The singular married, buried, that kind of thing. It recalls

video1211506414 1:25:06

the, The rhyming,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:08

pre-chorus bit in smells like Teen Spirit.

video1211506414 1:25:10

He's actually saying nonsense,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:11

but What's he getting from it? Nothing. And what should he

video1211506414 1:25:14

say about that?

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:15

Nothing. Should he be all apologies for it. I I think that, coupled with the production by

video1211506414 1:25:20

Steve Albini, which on this album is absolutely

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:22

amazing. I know Tom

audiomartynley11211506414 1:25:23

Yes. Yeah. Steve Albini

video1211506414 1:25:26

it sounds like break this produce of all time. it so it sounds like

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:28

dying amp is making, it's

video1211506414 1:25:30

like the heart, the heartbeat of a dying

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:32

amp is the drums on this song. and that's the reason why

video1211506414 1:25:34

I prefer

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:35

this version to

video1211506414 1:25:36

the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:36

live version.

video1211506414 1:25:37

I do like the live

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:38

version from the 94 Unplugged

video1211506414 1:25:40

Show. But I think the studio

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:42

Is the better version.

video1211506414 1:25:43

It sounds like Kurt

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:44

Cobain

video1211506414 1:25:45

is collapsing under his own

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:46

weight with this production.

video1211506414 1:25:48

Uh, and, and the the grandeur of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:50

this big

video1211506414 1:25:51

rockstar

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:52

is collapsing

video1211506414 1:25:53

in on itself. And what else

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:25:55

is he left

audiomartynley11211506414 1:25:57

can we also just

video1211506414 1:25:58

a moment to appreciate

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:01

the cello in that?

video1211506414 1:26:03

Yeah. Yeah. So like the, the cello

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:05

part is just,

video1211506414 1:26:06

I think it's wonderfully produced.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:07

It's perfectly produced.

video1211506414 1:26:09

The reason why the live version doesn't work quite as well is cuz it's

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:11

lacking that production in the drums. So the brushes that

video1211506414 1:26:14

Gold uses

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:15

the live version

video1211506414 1:26:15

aren't as effective weird

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:17

snares that they use on the studio version.

video1211506414 1:26:19

And to give a further example of why it doesn't

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:21

work without some of the production elements,

video1211506414 1:26:23

a year later, perennial song Coverer, in Chief Sena O'Connor did all

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:29

apologies on her 1994 album.

video1211506414 1:26:31

and it's just a straight acoustic

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:33

and it doesn't work at all. It needs that Misery and the

video1211506414 1:26:37

rawness and the strangeness of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:40

the instruments behind it to really give it the impact.

video1211506414 1:26:43

and I think it is the Definitive Nirvana song. I think it's my favorite It's my favorite

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:48

Nirvana song. And I also think like it's coverable. I I don't think you could

video1211506414 1:26:54

cover that. Yeah. yeah, I think and get across what he was trying to

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:58

do.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:26:59

Yeah.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:26:59

Like,

video1211506414 1:27:00

you are in a

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:00

relationship and as happy as that relationship might be,

video1211506414 1:27:05

you still

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:06

feel like, kind of like you're not yourself anymore because you're part of a relationship

video1211506414 1:27:12

now. You

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:13

kind of like having to give

video1211506414 1:27:14

to

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:15

somebody else. And what he's screaming about there is like going, you know, I am still myself. I'm

video1211506414 1:27:22

I'm still my own person. I'm still me.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:27:24

me.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:25

Yeah. I'm still me. And I, I also like the fucking chord progression is immensely fucking great and simple. It's, it's like that drop D like, and then it goes

video1211506414 1:27:40

the D

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:41

and it's like, fucking Hellman. It's just

video1211506414 1:27:44

hits

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:44

hard. That, that, that whole song is just a masterclass in motion, Pure emotion. It,

video1211506414 1:27:52

there's nothing more to

audiomartynley11211506414 1:27:54

it than just pure emotion. I, I, I've never, I've, I've never heard a song

video1211506414 1:27:59

like it in

audiomartynley11211506414 1:28:00

entire life. and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:28:01

It's up. though.

video1211506414 1:28:02

to a

audiomartynley11211506414 1:28:02

lot of music. it's

video1211506414 1:28:04

be an undeniable banger though, because I think

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:28:06

that,

video1211506414 1:28:07

well, at least Alex is going to, tear it maybe. no. no. I like this song Oh, wow. Okay. I, like Havana.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:16

Oh, the song's really weird. Yeah.

video1211506414 1:28:18

Don't have too much

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:19

experience listening to this song, to be honest. I've listened to it a few times, but I, uh, bleach and smells like Teen Spirit. Were the ones I had growing up and the ones I listened to

video1211506414 1:28:28

lot of,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:28:29

Um, man, you, sh you should listen

video1211506414 1:28:31

in Utero a lot more.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:33

No, I, I've listened. I haven't listened to it.

video1211506414 1:28:35

it. I do like it. I,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:36

I do prefer it smells like a teen spirit because I think the production felt it, it probably was just as much production, but it

video1211506414 1:28:42

a little

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:43

raw to me. But maybe I'm wrong.

video1211506414 1:28:46

Um, but

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:28:48

yeah, but I, I just feel it's a great song. Like, for all reasons, like, I really like the main melody. I like how it progresses during, um, the

video1211506414 1:28:55

are good. I just like the song. Um, it's kind of a bit boring really?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:29:00

It'd way more interesting. I said it was terrible

video1211506414 1:29:02

another argument But

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:29:05

Well, that's a

video1211506414 1:29:06

opinion, Alex. You should like it more.

audioJim51211506414 1:29:10

I've never really gotten Nirvana. I've never heard this song before.

video1211506414 1:29:16

Oh, wow.

audioJim51211506414 1:29:17

I thought this song was really boring, like really, really boring. Dave Gros drums are like rock bottom, Dave Grohl as well. Like it's just bland drumming start to finish. And he d he does the same drum fill that he does, and it's always teen. It smells like Teen Spirit, which is like the shittiest drum fill on earth, you know, the like snare floor Tom snare floor, Tom

video1211506414 1:29:42

I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:29:43

kind of like that intro. But keep, keep the rage. Keep Don't

video1211506414 1:29:46

the rage. Keep going. I'll like the emperor over there. Go on. Embrace your duck. I thought, do is me I

audioJim51211506414 1:29:52

thought the good, the, the

video1211506414 1:29:53

Well, you gotta think about

audioJim51211506414 1:29:54

was boring and I thought that, I didn't think it did anything interesting for the entire song. Like the best thing about this song is the production

video1211506414 1:30:02

Oh yeah. I think, for half the guys here. That's usually enough. yeah, No, I,

audioTom31211506414 1:30:07

I'm with James. So

video1211506414 1:30:09

I, I bought in utero when it came

audioTom31211506414 1:30:11

out and

video1211506414 1:30:12

I really enjoyed

audioTom31211506414 1:30:13

it.

video1211506414 1:30:14

And I like the album better than I like, nevermind, but I always skip this track.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:30:21

Ooh, wow.

video1211506414 1:30:22

Whoa. Hot take.

audioTom31211506414 1:30:24

I find this track a bit. Dell Dave Gros drumming is

video1211506414 1:30:28

probably the worst drumbeat he's ever put on record Um, I think that's intentional. I think it's just, I was, I was, I was

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:30:35

expecting this song to

video1211506414 1:30:36

like,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:30:37

well, it's all right. A bit average, but I'm, I'm, I'm, really doing

video1211506414 1:30:40

destination The guitar part is

audioTom31211506414 1:30:42

the closest Kurt

video1211506414 1:30:44

ever got to ripping off pumpkins. The guitar part for this could have been on G but it would've been a Gish B side. Like I just sage,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:30:55

guess Peace side. My God.

video1211506414 1:30:59

like

audiomartynley11211506414 1:30:59

My fucking God.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:01

Everything you think Martin is wrong.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:31:04

My God.

video1211506414 1:31:05

I, did, I thought this was gonna be our milk toast episode, but no

audioTom31211506414 1:31:09

no.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:31:10

I,

video1211506414 1:31:10

I, I, I'm triggered so much Who knows?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:14

I'm waiting for, and I do. I

video1211506414 1:31:15

I start, you know when someone's so angry

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:16

to start, like silently shaking. I'm sorry,

video1211506414 1:31:20

expecting or, or they do what

audioTom31211506414 1:31:21

you do

video1211506414 1:31:22

still em off. I,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:23

storm off.

audioJim51211506414 1:31:24

I, I mean, to be honest though, this song is so boring. It could easily be a Pearl Jam song.

audiomartynley11211506414 1:31:30

oh, fuck off my fucking God.

video1211506414 1:31:34

Great. I'm leaving. So, Tom,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:35

what's better? This song got OCP Hocus Pocus.

video1211506414 1:31:38

Oh no, I'm not going into that

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:31:41

No, you

video1211506414 1:31:42

be honest. No, I can't answer that. I can't,

audioTom31211506414 1:31:46

say I can't,

video1211506414 1:31:46

I can't say my opinion. I'm not, I'm not, have any credibility here By the end of the podcast. No, I mean, it's,

audioTom31211506414 1:31:53

this Is a very good song and there are like,

video1211506414 1:31:55

some ways, but it's

audioTom31211506414 1:31:56

just,

video1211506414 1:31:57

I hate Steve Alban's

audioTom31211506414 1:31:58

production. I think it's

video1211506414 1:31:59

worst thing about In

audioTom31211506414 1:32:00

Utero, I think in Utero has

video1211506414 1:32:03

of the strongest songs Nirvana ever wrote

audioTom31211506414 1:32:05

on it. then the thing is, I think my,

video1211506414 1:32:07

of my favorite Nirvana songs is sent The Apprentice I like Nirvana

audioTom31211506414 1:32:12

when they're heavy and raw

video1211506414 1:32:13

and

audioTom31211506414 1:32:14

like, sent The Apprentice really is like,

video1211506414 1:32:17

really that, When I listen

audioTom31211506414 1:32:18

to the album as a whole

video1211506414 1:32:19

I do

audioTom31211506414 1:32:20

like to listen to the album as a whole, I think by the

video1211506414 1:32:22

I get to all

audioTom31211506414 1:32:23

apologies, I don't want

video1211506414 1:32:26

a long.

audioTom31211506414 1:32:27

drawn

video1211506414 1:32:28

slow song.

audioTom31211506414 1:32:29

Um, it just, it doesn't

video1211506414 1:32:31

right

audioTom31211506414 1:32:31

for me in the

video1211506414 1:32:32

of the album at the

audioTom31211506414 1:32:33

the time. if we're going for a Slow Nirvana song in on that album,

video1211506414 1:32:36

I like heart shaped box better than I like all the

audioTom31211506414 1:32:39

apologies.

video1211506414 1:32:40

that's like

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:32:40

Sophie's

video1211506414 1:32:41

choice, isn't it? Which is your favorite child. Yeah. Sophie's Choice race Marie's baby.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:32:45

It's

video1211506414 1:32:45

choose in between Oh yeah. Very

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:32:46

Niana. To actively avoid the

video1211506414 1:32:51

on the album,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:32:51

a specific song.

video1211506414 1:32:52

Martin loves. I know what The best, the best thing is as well, is if you skip,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:32:58

if

video1211506414 1:32:58

you, if you skip this song, it's followed by

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:33:01

20 minutes of silence before the hidden track.

video1211506414 1:33:03

So presumably you don't skip

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:33:05

the 20 minutes

video1211506414 1:33:06

of silence, you skip this to get to I I, to be honest, I normally just stop the album after

audioTom31211506414 1:33:13

Tourette's to be honest.

video1211506414 1:33:14

it's, but like, don't get me wrong, I can see why people like

audioTom31211506414 1:33:19

it and it's like, the

video1211506414 1:33:20

is Martin, Martin and I, the difference to no music

audioTom31211506414 1:33:23

taste

video1211506414 1:33:24

Martin quite likes a drone and he will quite happily

audioTom31211506414 1:33:27

sit and listen to something that drones for quite a long time and he's always been able to do that.

video1211506414 1:33:32

I

audioTom31211506414 1:33:32

need

video1211506414 1:33:33

Mo and I know this sounds really weird for somebody who listens to post rock all the time

audioTom31211506414 1:33:37

cuz uh,

video1211506414 1:33:38

you guys

audioTom31211506414 1:33:38

will listen

video1211506414 1:33:39

it and go, oh that

audioTom31211506414 1:33:40

sounds like a 20

video1211506414 1:33:41

long drone.

audioTom31211506414 1:33:41

Except it isn't cuz it's got momentum. That's

video1211506414 1:33:44

difference. Martin doesn't feel

audioTom31211506414 1:33:45

the need in for momentum

video1211506414 1:33:47

what he's

audioTom31211506414 1:33:47

listening to. And that's totally valid. Like,

video1211506414 1:33:50

not

audioTom31211506414 1:33:50

saying

video1211506414 1:33:51

that you're not allowed to like

audioTom31211506414 1:33:53

this song.

video1211506414 1:33:53

That's not what

audioTom31211506414 1:33:54

I'm saying.

video1211506414 1:33:55

What I'm saying is that it doesn't have enough momentum for me to.

audioTom31211506414 1:33:59

enjoy it.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:02

My second choice for the evening,

video1211506414 1:34:03

is a song that I wish was more famous. It is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:07

very famous,

video1211506414 1:34:09

it's not famous in the mainstream circles that it should

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:13

be, because I think

video1211506414 1:34:14

It's in the top

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:15

songs of all time,

video1211506414 1:34:16

for myself. and it is, you did not

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:34:18

pick where the slime live,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

video1211506414 1:34:25

you. Tricks, do you? yeah. They're here tonight. They should have more mainstream success, I it Europe. The, the, song I've picked is Maggot Brain by the Band

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:34

Funkadelic,

video1211506414 1:34:35

which is, oh hell yes. part of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:37

the p Funk collective made

video1211506414 1:34:39

of the bands, which were essentially the same people, Funkadelic and Parliament, all formed

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:44

George Clinton

video1211506414 1:34:45

in the late sixties, and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:46

seventies. This is from 1971,

video1211506414 1:34:49

and it's 10 minutes. To give you, the lowdown

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:52

on how the song was formed. it

video1211506414 1:34:54

is essentially a guitar solo

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:34:56

two halves.

video1211506414 1:34:57

played in one take by Eddie Hazel

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:00

while he was on L s D. George Clinton himself explained

video1211506414 1:35:03

that I told him to play

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:05

like his mother had died to picture that day what he would feel, how he would make sense of his life,

video1211506414 1:35:10

how he would take a measure of everything

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:12

that was inside him. and

video1211506414 1:35:14

basically Eddie Hazel being on L s

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:17

s D

video1211506414 1:35:18

then had that as his mission statement and made

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:20

one of the.

video1211506414 1:35:21

most Powerful recordings that I think I've ever heard. so bare bones. There are some drums played. There's a massive kind of snare that's got a lot of delay effects

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:33

lot of echo, a lot of reverb, From Tiki forward. And

video1211506414 1:35:37

there's a

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:37

very small Bass part lowdown, from Billy Bass Nelson.

video1211506414 1:35:41

and He,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:42

Plays A syncope a bit towards the

video1211506414 1:35:43

end, but there's really isn't

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:45

much instrumentally going on. It's just The

video1211506414 1:35:48

main

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:48

Chord played by the second guitar, by tall Ross,

video1211506414 1:35:52

And then Eddie Hazel,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:53

just whales for

video1211506414 1:35:55

minutes. While George Clinton does do some poetry

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:57

at the start,

video1211506414 1:35:58

and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:35:59

To describe it

video1211506414 1:36:01

as to some of its parts, it is just ethereal in the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:04

that it transcends.

video1211506414 1:36:06

I think it transcends what Hendrix was doing

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:08

at the time.

video1211506414 1:36:10

uh, I I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:11

think it's

video1211506414 1:36:12

just this wonderful

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:13

record that should be entrenched in

video1211506414 1:36:14

funk and is, a hard rock, almost

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:18

classic for me.

video1211506414 1:36:19

I just think it, it has so many

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:21

facets of what makes this song incredible. The

video1211506414 1:36:25

of how it was

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:25

made, the people themselves, the, the quality of the musicianship and the, the kind of

video1211506414 1:36:31

that is a Eddie Hazel who would die in the nineties way before

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:34

his time and spent

video1211506414 1:36:35

most of his career with Parliament Funkadelic being sacked because he couldn't get off of various drug problems

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:42

he had.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:36:42

Is that how he

video1211506414 1:36:43

he died. Yeah, from drug problems. He was only

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:46

about,

video1211506414 1:36:46

uh, in his, in his late

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:48

thirties, early

video1211506414 1:36:50

and He's one of the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:51

greatest guitarists,

video1211506414 1:36:52

That

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:53

has ever lived for

video1211506414 1:36:54

me and n does not get

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:56

props that

video1211506414 1:36:57

he deserves. And this

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:36:59

is his

video1211506414 1:36:59

one moment that he had where he showed the world

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:37:03

that

video1211506414 1:37:03

the guitar is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:37:05

a powerful And yeah, I

video1211506414 1:37:08

think if you've never heard this song,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:37:10

just put yourself in a dark room and just listen to it. Go with it. Because you've gotta be in the mood for it. It's not something you can put casually

video1211506414 1:37:16

on as the playlist

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:37:17

show When

video1211506414 1:37:18

it suddenly jar from Rundy ce into Funkadelics Mega. I

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:21

fucking bad after that introduction of why it's so good, I'm just like, it sounds like nothing else matters by Metallica Cross with pink floored at the end. And I think that's great

video1211506414 1:37:31

before both of those. I know both

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:34

of'em. I

video1211506414 1:37:34

know it's before, but

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:35

it is the metal. It is. Nothing else matters. Melody..I literally, when I was listening to it, cause I was

video1211506414 1:37:40

doing other

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:41

stuff, a part of me started song with the murder. Hell close the murder. Hell fuck. I started doing it before expecting it to come cause I forgot I was listening to a playlist of other people's music

video1211506414 1:37:52

Like,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:53

but yeah, it is a really, really good song. I, I definitely put it in a banger.

video1211506414 1:37:55

I really enjoyed

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:37:56

it. Just cause I like people, Floyd and Metallica that

video1211506414 1:37:59

did it 10 years before. Yeah, it's got before existed. It's got 12 elements to it. I thought it was great.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:38:04

Oh,

video1211506414 1:38:06

I don't wanna do do the end, do the end. I

audioTom31211506414 1:38:09

don't wanna, I don't wanna

video1211506414 1:38:10

that guy again.

audioTom31211506414 1:38:12

I think for the first three and a half

video1211506414 1:38:14

I enjoyed it. And after that it's just pretentious wank. I thought in his faces, asshole

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:38:20

C clench

video1211506414 1:38:22

he literally went,

audioTom31211506414 1:38:24

it's my

video1211506414 1:38:25

problem is

audioTom31211506414 1:38:27

I have always, always, hated guitar. solos And this track is just one guitar

video1211506414 1:38:32

solo. Well, yeah. That's not gonna help. And I, so no, so like, I can understand why you like

audioTom31211506414 1:38:38

it, and the guitar playing

video1211506414 1:38:39

start with

audioTom31211506414 1:38:40

is beautiful,

video1211506414 1:38:41

then

audioTom31211506414 1:38:41

it is, you, you can tell

video1211506414 1:38:43

made by people who've taken a lot of drugs because

audioTom31211506414 1:38:46

it's, it's, very, and

video1211506414 1:38:48

I have a problem with

audioTom31211506414 1:38:49

that because it's,

video1211506414 1:38:50

it's very, it's very self-indulgent

audioTom31211506414 1:38:54

and it's very, Eddie Hazel is telling

video1211506414 1:38:56

story. It's listening to this guy play guitar

audioTom31211506414 1:39:00

It's like listening

video1211506414 1:39:01

Martin try and tell a story.

audioTom31211506414 1:39:03

It starts off really coherent for the

video1211506414 1:39:06

three minutes,

audioTom31211506414 1:39:08

and then it just

video1211506414 1:39:09

into a mess.

audioTom31211506414 1:39:10

mess.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:39:13

but

video1211506414 1:39:14

it ends. pretty accurate man Focus. But no matter, no matter what the story is, it always ends with that particular song being the best song that's ever

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:39:24

been

video1211506414 1:39:25

Oh, if not in saying it, yeah. but yeah, So, so

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:39:30

We really should. That should be a podcast. We should do this podcast for another year, and we'll write down every song Martin Claims. It's the best song

video1211506414 1:39:37

ever written,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:39:38

and we can have a podcast on it

video1211506414 1:39:39

itself just then

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:39:41

we can grade those songs and think. Then we can pick the actual best song in the universe.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:39:47

We could even, we could even somehow

video1211506414 1:39:49

stage it so that Martin is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:39:51

five people on the podcast all at once as well.

video1211506414 1:39:56

It's just Martin talking to himself about how good

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:39:58

the Beastie Boys and Ger Duran Duran and in excess are over and over again.

video1211506414 1:40:02

It's like that episode of Black Mirror where he wakes up and it's Christmas every day. It's just like and every

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:40:07

every conversation it's like exactly

video1211506414 1:40:09

same, where it's just like, shame, man.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:40:12

Yeah.

video1211506414 1:40:12

can I say, man. about shit? I've been listening to failure while I've been cycling around. Oh, No. Yeah. No. So I don't, I don't mean to denigrate

audioTom31211506414 1:40:19

it too badly. Like

video1211506414 1:40:20

I really like the first

audioTom31211506414 1:40:22

first three minutes I

video1211506414 1:40:23

well on

audioTom31211506414 1:40:23

board, but it just lost,

video1211506414 1:40:25

just loses me because it doesn't. because it

audioTom31211506414 1:40:28

is a, just a guitar solo,

video1211506414 1:40:30

and it's a very, very good guitar

audioTom31211506414 1:40:31

solo. Like, don't get me wrong, but it is

video1211506414 1:40:34

only a guitar solo, and

audioTom31211506414 1:40:36

that isn't enough

video1211506414 1:40:38

what I want to

audioTom31211506414 1:40:39

listen to.

video1211506414 1:40:39

And the thing is, I

audioTom31211506414 1:40:40

actually, to be

video1211506414 1:40:41

I actually did stay and listen to the whole of the album.

audioTom31211506414 1:40:44

I did sit and listen to the whole,

video1211506414 1:40:45

it's a really good

audioTom31211506414 1:40:46

album, and it's

video1211506414 1:40:47

it's like Best. And I was, and I was

audioTom31211506414 1:40:49

was listening to this track

video1211506414 1:40:50

then the other tracks and I was

audioTom31211506414 1:40:51

like, oh, Dan, why didn't you

video1211506414 1:40:53

one of the other songs? I

audioTom31211506414 1:40:54

I would've said

video1211506414 1:40:54

really nice about it, and now I have to say something mean My second favorite on that album

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:00

The Closing Track Wars of Armageddon. I love that.

video1211506414 1:41:02

and, super Stupid Headache. Quit It,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:04

yeah, there's

video1211506414 1:41:05

great songs on that album. Yeah. Maggot Brain itself is a great album, I just can't, she Stupid is amazing. yeah,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:11

I couldn't let this opportunity go by without

video1211506414 1:41:14

bringing up No, no, no, absolutely, absolutely fine. And Maggot Brain, because I think

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:17

that important to a

video1211506414 1:41:19

A lot of what would

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:20

transpire in the seventies and the eighties from from

video1211506414 1:41:23

kind of

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:23

blues crossover, uh, r and b music.

video1211506414 1:41:26

Uh, and not enough people know who, who George

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:28

Clinton is, let alone who Parliament Funk Delica.

video1211506414 1:41:31

Um, I was lucky enough to see George

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:41:33

in the summer, uh, in his eighties. He's

video1211506414 1:41:36

still, uh, an absolute triumphant human being. Yeah. Yeah. Like I say, the rest of the album was

audioTom31211506414 1:41:42

fantastic And I, and like, I I I like, I

video1211506414 1:41:45

I was in,

audioTom31211506414 1:41:46

in it from the

video1211506414 1:41:47

And I do

audioTom31211506414 1:41:47

see what you mean about saying

video1211506414 1:41:49

really

audioTom31211506414 1:41:49

important to a lot of other things

video1211506414 1:41:52

came later because it is

audioTom31211506414 1:41:54

so Pink

video1211506414 1:41:55

were already going and doing stuff that, uh, that was similar to

audioTom31211506414 1:41:58

this.

video1211506414 1:41:59

formed in 65 Yeah. Echoes, I think was around I the same year This does

audioTom31211506414 1:42:05

very much start the guitar sound that they then start to

video1211506414 1:42:09

down with their later seventies stuff. So yeah. It is

audioTom31211506414 1:42:11

quite influential and I think, yes, his guitar playing is. Taking what Hendrix was doing and taking it

video1211506414 1:42:17

another level. But Hendrix

audioTom31211506414 1:42:19

wrote

video1211506414 1:42:20

those guitar parts in songs, and I think that's, oh, Eddie Hazel could do

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:24

that as well.

audioTom31211506414 1:42:25

yeah, he does,

video1211506414 1:42:26

does on the rest of the album..Yeah. Yeah. Eddie Hazel was also,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:29

just before we move on to the

video1211506414 1:42:30

next song, he, he only released, I think one album

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:32

in his lifetime. It's,

video1211506414 1:42:34

called, game

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:35

games and guitar things.

video1211506414 1:42:37

And it features an amazing cover of California Dreaming by the Mamas and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:41

the Papas. And it is amazing.

video1211506414 1:42:43

It's just

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:44

A, guitar workout,

video1211506414 1:42:45

It's got

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:45

a

video1211506414 1:42:45

blues rock feel

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:42:46

to

video1211506414 1:42:47

anyway. Totally worth racking. What do the other two guys think?

audioJim51211506414 1:42:50

It's not just a guitar solo. I absolutely love this. It's like it's a window into a man's soul. That's what it is. That's how much I love this song. It's not just a guy sitting in a room burst off his tits playing the guitar. Like,

video1211506414 1:43:05

it's, well, it kind of was. Yeah.

audioJim51211506414 1:43:08

it, it is that, but it's more than

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:43:09

Its literally

video1211506414 1:43:10

begon. the recording, the recording is more than that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I,

audioJim51211506414 1:43:16

I love, I love it. I love this song. It's fantastic. Tom's ruined everything for everyone.

video1211506414 1:43:21

I know. I did. He does that.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:43:37

Final song of the evening.

video1211506414 1:43:39

So Tom, what have you got in store for ussr? Parting gift for 2022. Wizard won't be

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:43:44

be

video1211506414 1:43:44

about this. Continue I know I've just stomped on his Yes. Rabbit

audioTom31211506414 1:43:48

yeah. I know. I'm

video1211506414 1:43:50

I'm really sad that I'm going after

audioTom31211506414 1:43:52

that cuz as soon as

video1211506414 1:43:53

said how much it meant to him, I was like, I'm

audioTom31211506414 1:43:55

gonna sound like such an asshole now and I'm prepared to get my heart stomped on. Cuz I

video1211506414 1:43:59

I feel

audioTom31211506414 1:44:00

about this song probably as strongly as Dan feels about that one. And I

video1211506414 1:44:04

how he feels right now and that's why I feel really sorry and guilty and

audioTom31211506414 1:44:07

like, please don't shit

video1211506414 1:44:08

me too much

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:44:10

He's smirking Cause he knows assholes

video1211506414 1:44:11

Yeah, I know. That's, I know that's,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:44:13

I can't wait. The

video1211506414 1:44:14

electricity's in the air I know, I know. It's

audioTom31211506414 1:44:16

coming and

video1211506414 1:44:17

I know I, I'm

audioTom31211506414 1:44:18

I'm prepared for it.

video1211506414 1:44:19

This tracks

audioTom31211506414 1:44:19

by

video1211506414 1:44:20

probably my favorite band

audioTom31211506414 1:44:21

ever. trying to pick a track by this

video1211506414 1:44:24

really hard

audioTom31211506414 1:44:25

though because they are quite an album band. If you

video1211506414 1:44:28

to one of their albums,

audioTom31211506414 1:44:29

they,

video1211506414 1:44:30

they cover a lot of bases. So if you take one

audioTom31211506414 1:44:32

track out, it

video1211506414 1:44:34

always work

audioTom31211506414 1:44:34

that well.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:44:35

well. I finally did that pretty well. Great Meco, but the, the amazing

video1211506414 1:44:39

Jekyll brothers. Yeah, no, I got what your point is. yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. No, no, no

audioTom31211506414 1:44:45

I discovered this band when

video1211506414 1:44:47

was at university and

audioTom31211506414 1:44:49

it was shortly before

video1211506414 1:44:51

they broke up and I really,

audioTom31211506414 1:44:54

I got

video1211506414 1:44:54

out the album that this

audioTom31211506414 1:44:55

track's taken from, cause I

video1211506414 1:44:57

I

audioTom31211506414 1:44:58

discovered it because I was doing a deep dive into

video1211506414 1:45:00

Underground

audioTom31211506414 1:45:01

Records

video1211506414 1:45:02

McGuire Young team came out on that

audioTom31211506414 1:45:03

label.

video1211506414 1:45:04

And so this

audioTom31211506414 1:45:05

band formed

video1211506414 1:45:07

Glasgow in the late 1990s, formed from a few other sort of college bands in around

audioTom31211506414 1:45:14

Glasgow. They

video1211506414 1:45:16

up their own record

audioTom31211506414 1:45:16

label

video1211506414 1:45:17

release their debut

audioTom31211506414 1:45:18

single, which that record

video1211506414 1:45:20

also released. Biffy Claros

audioTom31211506414 1:45:23

second single and

video1211506414 1:45:25

their first single as well, actually. Um,

audioTom31211506414 1:45:28

and then

video1211506414 1:45:29

release this album

audioTom31211506414 1:45:31

and it's recorded on like a very

video1211506414 1:45:34

budget in like a local studio.

audioTom31211506414 1:45:36

The drummer on this album virtually never plays a drum beat.

video1211506414 1:45:40

always playing like a melody pattern and a

audioTom31211506414 1:45:42

a riff.

video1211506414 1:45:43

The singer's

audioTom31211506414 1:45:44

voice takes some getting

video1211506414 1:45:46

I appreciate lots of people don't

audioTom31211506414 1:45:47

like it,

video1211506414 1:45:48

but at the end of

audioTom31211506414 1:45:48

of this song, I should say the name of the song, the song's called

video1211506414 1:45:51

Tour

audioTom31211506414 1:45:52

Prejudgment, it's Track two of

video1211506414 1:45:53

Area Grams debut album Historian

audioTom31211506414 1:45:55

White.

video1211506414 1:45:56

At the end of it, when he screams

audioTom31211506414 1:45:58

it's the most uncontrolled, I

video1211506414 1:46:01

he lost his voice for a year in the late two

audioTom31211506414 1:46:04

thousands. and

video1211506414 1:46:05

can hear why, when you

audioTom31211506414 1:46:06

hear how he screams. It's not a scream in the way that your sort of screamo bands at the time were doing it. It's not that sort of controlled

video1211506414 1:46:15

that you're taught how to do. It's visceral.

audioTom31211506414 1:46:20

It's, it's this uncontrolled scream of anguish.

video1211506414 1:46:24

Although I

audioTom31211506414 1:46:25

Yeah,

video1211506414 1:46:26

really is. But it was,

audioJim51211506414 1:46:27

Just like Gary Neville's orgasm,

video1211506414 1:46:29

Yeah, it's,but it's I was really,

audioTom31211506414 1:46:35

d I was really disappointed though, cuz for years

video1211506414 1:46:38

thought he

audioTom31211506414 1:46:38

was singing, I thought

video1211506414 1:46:39

was singing We Could Be Clouds,

audioTom31211506414 1:46:41

which I thought

video1211506414 1:46:41

a beautiful lyric,

audioTom31211506414 1:46:42

but it's not. It's,

video1211506414 1:46:43

can't be found, which was very

audioTom31211506414 1:46:44

disappointed. But anyway, the, the

video1211506414 1:46:46

this band

audioTom31211506414 1:46:47

wrote the songs is the singer

video1211506414 1:46:48

come in with all of the tracks written on

audioTom31211506414 1:46:50

acoustic guitar, which

video1211506414 1:46:51

why the guitar parts mostly like open chords just

audioTom31211506414 1:46:55

with a bit of distortion on

video1211506414 1:46:56

And the band would take these

audioTom31211506414 1:46:57

folk songs that

video1211506414 1:46:58

written and then deconstruct them. Um, and Ian Cook would add keys and another

audioTom31211506414 1:47:03

guitar part

video1211506414 1:47:04

he's now the keyboard player in

audioTom31211506414 1:47:05

churches. This song starts off with a sort of

video1211506414 1:47:09

vocal over the top of a.

audioTom31211506414 1:47:12

Well, essentially smashing pumpkins, chords, uh, riff.

video1211506414 1:47:16

Um, and

audioTom31211506414 1:47:17

then it kicks off into

video1211506414 1:47:19

big

audioTom31211506414 1:47:19

chorus and then it's got this

video1211506414 1:47:21

of a B a b

audioTom31211506414 1:47:23

and then structure. And then it just sort of goes

video1211506414 1:47:26

on a

audioTom31211506414 1:47:26

tangent. It sort of

video1211506414 1:47:27

goes to this breakdown and then it just punches

audioTom31211506414 1:47:30

you in the face. and

video1211506414 1:47:31

absolutely love it.

audioJim51211506414 1:47:33

Agreed. Like I love Area Grantham. I love this song. Banger. Get It In.

video1211506414 1:47:37

this, this was, uh,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:47:39

probably my favorite song of an almighty, cuz my two picks were amazing. I think the song's actually brilliant. It reminds

video1211506414 1:47:47

of, um,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:47:48

I imagine they came after, but I think I like this song because it reminded me a lot of the song Angels by Jam

video1211506414 1:47:53

World.

audioJim51211506414 1:47:54

I thought you gonna say by Robbie Williams

video1211506414 1:47:57

Yeah. Sorry. You mean you mean Lizzo?

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:48:00

I think it's called Angels, but I'm pretty certain that's what the song is on Jam. Remind me

video1211506414 1:48:04

that. But

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:48:05

with the extra heaviness and. You know, screaming

video1211506414 1:48:08

stuff. That is the

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:48:13

review I've ever heard Anyone give anything? Sound.

video1211506414 1:48:16

A bit like Jimmy World, but with man. See, when, when you say it,

audioTom31211506414 1:48:25

Dan,

video1211506414 1:48:25

sounds

audioTom31211506414 1:48:26

like a really positive

video1211506414 1:48:27

doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Martin, what are your thoughts on, on area Graham's, post tour

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:36

Um, Tom already knows my

video1211506414 1:48:39

thoughts on aerial grammar. Yeah, but everybody else doesn't. Bits. Yeah. I just love that whole Dynamic

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:44

they have of the minimal guitar parts and then Exploding into violence.

video1211506414 1:48:49

I like that

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:50

about bands when

video1211506414 1:48:51

it's like you have a really

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:53

melodic part

video1211506414 1:48:54

and then it just explodes

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:56

into this

video1211506414 1:48:57

extreme violence of guitar

audiomartynley11211506414 1:48:59

noise and like, just, yeah, just

video1211506414 1:49:03

over the top

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:04

Distortion and stuff.

video1211506414 1:49:05

I, I really

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:06

like that a lot. Um, I really like that a lot. Tom will tell you

video1211506414 1:49:11

like,

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:12

being in a band with me. He will, he will testify. Like, I like to just

video1211506414 1:49:17

kick on the distortions

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:18

fucking mental.

video1211506414 1:49:20

it s

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:20

on me because it's, it's,

video1211506414 1:49:22

I I know this song very well and I

audiomartynley11211506414 1:49:24

I like it a lot.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:49:25

So it sounds like everybody likes this.

video1211506414 1:49:27

I haven't given my thoughts yet. So, Tom,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:49:29

shall I read?

video1211506414 1:49:30

Before, gets

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:49:31

absolutely savage it can

video1211506414 1:49:33

just say,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:49:33

uh, just alter my opinion. This song by Jimmy Weld is called Hear You Me, on Bleed American. And this is what it sounds

video1211506414 1:49:38

but

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:49:39

Okay.

video1211506414 1:49:39

I'll read my notes cause I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:49:40

know Tom's dying

video1211506414 1:49:42

to hear whether or not this is

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:49:43

gonna pass us an undeniable

video1211506414 1:49:44

banger, I suddenly find myself in a position of power. So I put I'm feeling, I'm feeling I should have been nicer Sea Best so I put, not as good as barriers or trenches from my heart. Has

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:01

a wish

video1211506414 1:50:01

That you would not go in

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:02

2007.

video1211506414 1:50:03

Seven. That's when I them. but I love the quiet, loud dynamic of this.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:09

I love the distorted guitar

video1211506414 1:50:10

it's almost like he's having

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:11

a breakdown. Craig b is the vocalist. yeah, he sounds like he's having a breakdown at the end. I really love,

video1211506414 1:50:18

The bouncing snare

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:19

that Martin Scott on drums

video1211506414 1:50:21

has got. It's really effective. It

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:22

shows like there's an emotion bubbling under the bits that are more of a

video1211506414 1:50:26

standard

audioJim51211506414 1:50:27

Oh, bubbling under the bits.

video1211506414 1:50:28

So, yeah. Area grammar in the Undeniable Banger Club. Tom. Um, I, I, I, yeah. this this is a great song. the one thing I did say

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:43

on it, and it's not really a slight on the song at all, but I think it may

video1211506414 1:50:47

be the same melody as, Neil Young's Only Love

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:50:51

Break Your Heart. They, sound very similar,

video1211506414 1:50:53

in terms of the way the birds there, there is a similarity. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but I doesn't, three of you asked me, but but I love

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:01

that. I

video1211506414 1:51:01

just wanted to get a slight

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:03

knock into so not a hundred percent original,

video1211506414 1:51:06

but I love that song anyway, So yeah, this is a great song, We've gotta be nice about

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:51:11

this band, haven't we? Because like, if you listen to this song,

video1211506414 1:51:13

pretty much

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:51:14

copy paste. Every song has ever enjoyed, he

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:18

Yeah.

video1211506414 1:51:19

Yeah. And Thomas waited about, I think it's about 25 episodes to drop Aio

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:24

Graham on us.

video1211506414 1:51:25

So think I've never mentioned it before, So I think

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:27

It is about time that they, they got

video1211506414 1:51:29

recognition, I think. Yeah. This is a great song. It's not my favorite

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:51:32

song and theirs That you've recommended to me.

video1211506414 1:51:34

Trenches is a particular one that I, from their final album. Yeah. So Trenches is, trenches is absolutely

audioTom31211506414 1:51:42

heartbreaking. Like, it's, it's one of,

video1211506414 1:51:45

and I think weirdly, so

audioTom31211506414 1:51:47

My Heart's A Wish he Would not Go, came after Craig B. lost his voice

video1211506414 1:51:52

So he lost his

audioTom31211506414 1:51:52

voice com, like

video1211506414 1:51:54

lost it after their,

audioTom31211506414 1:51:56

so some

video1211506414 1:51:57

call it an

audioTom31211506414 1:51:57

album, some people call it an

video1211506414 1:51:59

ep. So it's either their third album or their th third

audioTom31211506414 1:52:01

ep.

video1211506414 1:52:02

he lost his voice completely.

audioTom31211506414 1:52:04

And then he

video1211506414 1:52:05

back and they made, my Heart

audioTom31211506414 1:52:06

has a Wish

video1211506414 1:52:07

you would not go The band

audioTom31211506414 1:52:09

Made had, hadn't made it at all. Like

video1211506414 1:52:12

were losing money, handover fists. They weren't getting

audioTom31211506414 1:52:14

anywhere. They, they split up halfway

video1211506414 1:52:16

a US tour cuz they were playing

audioTom31211506414 1:52:18

to

video1211506414 1:52:18

Empty venues,

audioTom31211506414 1:52:19

They decided they'd try and make one cohesive album

video1211506414 1:52:23

their al

audioTom31211506414 1:52:23

other albums

video1211506414 1:52:24

by their own admission, a difficult,

audioTom31211506414 1:52:26

listen, I think it's Craig B actually described Sleep and Release, which

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voted like

audioTom31211506414 1:52:31

the 10th best Scottish album of all time. He's like, I

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that You guys like not

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:52:35

much of a

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No.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:52:36

Mm-hmm.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:52:39

Scottish

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Music. What? the Best of the Cranky did. All right. I What's the

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:52:44

the top 10 in New Guinea right now?

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cares?

audioTom31211506414 1:52:46

yeah. There are,

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are some very good, probably Bad Bunny, to be fair. Probably actually,

audioTom31211506414 1:52:51

they decided,

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make one

audioTom31211506414 1:52:52

album that sounded like an album and then it's got barriers and trenches on

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And Trenches

audioTom31211506414 1:52:57

is,

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for anyone who doesn't know it, based on a letter that a

audioTom31211506414 1:53:01

a soldier sends home

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World War I. And he's singing

audioTom31211506414 1:53:03

that and he puts this heartbreaking melody to it. And then they, then

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the ending of

audioTom31211506414 1:53:09

it is just a

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chord, played fucking massive with modulating, Root note,

audioTom31211506414 1:53:16

With the modulating baseline. And it just sounds huge. The trenches is, as well. was debating putting that up,

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but I was like, I thought

audioTom31211506414 1:53:27

that it would, might,

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I'd rather put

audioTom31211506414 1:53:29

through something with a bit cuz they, they,

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my heart's wish you would not go, does not actually represent the rest of that

audioTom31211506414 1:53:35

band's discography at all.

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Um, it's beautiful and it's a great album

audioTom31211506414 1:53:39

and I think it's, everyone should listen to it, but I think that their other albums need

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bit of love as well because they're so

audioTom31211506414 1:53:46

clever. Like some of the things they do, the way Martin Scott plays drums,

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don't think there's another drummer that plays drums like

audioTom31211506414 1:53:53

that. You listen to his drum parts the whole way through sleep and release and you're like,

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is no drumbeat. It's just, uh,

audioTom31211506414 1:54:00

it's like

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he plays drums, like you'd play

audioTom31211506414 1:54:02

guitar like, it's

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like the drum pattern that

audioTom31211506414 1:54:06

that he plays in the track

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older, which is one of their heavier tracks, is just, it's just weird, but it's beautiful. Anyway, and I, I won't gush

audioTom31211506414 1:54:16

too much.

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I'll bore you all to death.

audioTom31211506414 1:54:18

death.

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That was Songs on trial. Our final episode recorded

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:22

in 2022. Uh, will

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actually be

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:25

2023 when you'll listen to it.

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But we'll be back,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:28

we'll

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back, Very soon, with Album

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:30

the Year for 2022. So we'll give our thoughts

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then,

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:33

On

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What's won, what the best records of this year. And then after that would be time for us to discuss The Beatles, I

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:39

believe.

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remember, I'm Haveing two albums, aren't I, yes, you're, yes,

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:54:44

Well, I'm gonna go

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the

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:54:45

the last band I did for last year and the, see, I got a new album this year and then this stuff

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Start all there.

audioJim51211506414 1:54:50

Good luck. Cause the chats have got a new

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new album.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:54:53

Oh yeah, Got around to

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Listen down yet, it's good as

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:55

well. It's

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it's

audioJim51211506414 1:54:56

good. It's just not as good as the last album.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:54:58

Yeah,

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Oh yeah. Uh, no, FX have got another album out as well, so you can always nominate that if you can't think of anything else. Well, I actually didn't know that. Yeah. The,

audioJim51211506414 1:55:06

the opener on the new chats album is a banger, like the six liter gtr.

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:55:10

Yeah.

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I, I like, uh, the Price of Smokes has gone up again.

audioJim51211506414 1:55:14

Oh

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favorite track on that album.

audioJim51211506414 1:55:16

Process

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:55:16

I mean,

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mean, I already wanna nominate it. I don't heard it. In the meantime, check out the blog, check out the YouTube channel for more

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:55:23

video content,

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and

audioDanielWhitell41211506414 1:55:25

join us on

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Patrick or now give us some money. Give us some money.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:55:29

I just, I just made a video for now. I've done my first content for the group,

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that's good. Yeah. If you stick around after the show, you might find out what that is, And On that note, goodbye. Stay funky, keep listen.

audioAlexEvens21211506414 1:55:42

Bye bye. bye. bye. Bye bye.