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Its Just a Number! with Judi Justice - PINNED Podcast: Episode 14
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Pinup comes in all ages, shapes, and lifestyles! This week join me as I sit down with Judi Justice and talk about her journey into pinup and how her influence has grown to make an impact in her community!
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About Judi Justice
Miss Judi Justice has been pinuping for roughly 5 years. She got her pinup name from her roller derby past - Grudge Judi Justice. She is from Philadelphia,a mother of 2 and a wife. She also works for a non-profit behavioral health center for children.
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Good day and welcome back to the pin podcast.
Speaker 2I'm your host, Pinot Miami. And here I try to bring, um, modern living with a vintage flair. And if you want to follow on all the follow back on all the old, uh, guests or new guests, follow us at the pin podcast, official and Instagram and my page at Pinot Miami. And I just want to say thank you. We're on episode 14 and it means so much that all of you are listening, um, subscribing hitting like, um, you could follow me on YouTube. If you want to see my guests in person or see me, it's up to you. And if you're watching this on iTunes, Spotify, just subscribe and rate us and it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all today. I have a very special guest. She is so beautiful inside and out. Her name is Judy Judy Justice. Her Instagram is at Judy Justice and she runs a founded and run to the PA Liberty bells, which we'll get into, if you haven't heard of them really great. And a Judaism, like I could say, she's like, well rounded from roller Derby to modeling, to helping out in the community in a very big way. Um, even behind the scenes that people don't know, she helps out so much and she's truly beautiful person. So Judy welcome. It's such a pleasure to have you. Hi, thank you for having me. I'm so excited. I feel so honored and what a welcome my goodness. Of course, you deserve a grand welcome. So tell us who is Judy, introduce yourself to the listeners. So I am Judy thoughts. This I am president and cofounder of the Pennsylvania Liberty bells pinup up. Uh, we are entering our third year of existence. We're a Pennsylvania based pin-up club, but we have girls from all over. Um, we have members in New Jersey. We recently had a member from New York that just moved over to California. So we have California representation. Um, we have local girls like Delaware, New Jersey. We've had girls from Virginia, Maryland. So we've had a pretty far reach on our membership. Um, right now we're, I believe at 26 belts in the group and every bill I meet is great. I had the pleasure of going to pinups. It's a zoo up in, up in Pennsylvania and it was so much fun of the country and it was really nice. I, I, I was able to stay with you guys. And the first night I was out to dinner with you and it was amazing. I had so much fun and I got my steps. If I counted steps,
Speaker 3You definitely got your workout that evening.
Speaker 2You know, it's says here in South Florida, everything is car like our, our, our, our system here is not really that great to use public transportation. I think the only time I've ever used it was anytime the Miami heat, when, and there's a festival, you have to take the try real, but I always feel like it's going to tip over.
Speaker 3No, I get it. You know, you have a metropolis like Philly, you can walk just about anywhere or public transportation. You get there's every mode of transportation here, but a Bellini, our hostess that evening who, uh, hosted you that night, uh, she's a native new Yorker. So he was all, it was all about the walking. And I'm like, uh, our guest isn't from a walking neighborhood. So I think we walked something like four miles from like the restaurant. So the night club that we went, yes,
Speaker 2I was shocked. That was like, cause I asked, I was like, is it normal to walk? Because I mean, I didn't complain because if it was normal, I didn't want to seem like,
Speaker 3Well, it is normal to walk that far here in Philly, but you know, we've, we've grown accustomed to doing a lot of walking with Bellini. So, and I guess it's a little exercise. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2She's amazing. Her dog is beautiful.
Speaker 3She actually just hosted a few of the bells and I for my birthday at ocean city, she and her boyfriend have a house down there. So that was fine. Oh no. I love her to death. She's a magician and a burly. Did you know she's a burlesque dancer?
Speaker 2Yes. Ma'am. What's going on newspaper.
Speaker 3Yes. Incredible. All have talents like powerful well-rounded women in this group. I'm like impressed by them. Yeah. They blow me away all the time.
Speaker 2So tell me before we move on first, I got to say, I love what you're wearing.
Speaker 3Thank you. This is the Annette dress. Um, from wax poetic clothing, uh, Joanna sells a dear friend of mine. And if you don't already know this, I get her to style me for almost all of my events. So I usually just reach out to the Joe. I need an outfit, help me figure this out. And she always puts me in the most flattering and complimentary dresses. So I am a huge, huge fan of WEX, Vota clothing, and they just drop some amazing stuff for Halloween. And I think I've purchased every dress that she drops. Um, she's got some really hot stuff coming out for the Christmas season. So yeah, I just send her the emoji all the time. Just take my money, take it off. But the dress is in that dress and it's comfortable. Dress is very flattering. It's one of my favorite dresses. Everything with pockets is amazing. Right.
Speaker 2And I love her robe. She came out with this Lacey Rose.
Speaker 3Yes, I have it in black and it is amazing something like six yards of fabric around the house all the time in Hollywood glam all the time, all the time
Speaker 2I wore my caftan for it. That was leopard. I was like, what do I wear to talk to Judy? I was like, Oh, where's some leopard and some big black thing
Speaker 3Can never go wrong. I am a big, big fan of leopard. So,
Speaker 2So Judy, tell me about how you started in pinup on yourself, your, your, um, your journey of how interested to know.
Speaker 3Yeah. It's kind of funny because my love of pinup started years ago. Um, when I was significantly younger, um, we won't age ourselves, although the grades are coming in and I'm welcoming these, um, my mother was very much the like June Cleaver type mom. Um, you know, always like the house was pristine and she was always interested and she taught me how to use heels at like seven. Um, so I was very much in her closet. Um, and she's always be like model hostess. You know, she'd always have her hate Brennan and everyone that would come to the home. She tends to, you know, with all the grades since she was like this model, you know, June Cleaver mom. And so it was kind of instilled in me very early. Um, and then I've just kind of evolved like in my twenties. And I found the love of like, uh, like the Bronco Billy look, you know, I obviously the icon Rosie, the Riveter, that was like the one. And then as I got older is when my interest really, once I started figuring out my likes and dislikes and filed, I just kind of felt like pin upping definitely captured, um, my essence, you know, this huge personality and gave me all the reasons I always be dressed up extra. And you know, it is, it is dress and pin all the time. So I'm like I go to work dressed and pin off. So, you know, it's my day to day everyday, look, it's not just an occasional book I existed and all this time, but I have like a whole like big old been happening to the side, very Spanish out here. So,
Speaker 2And your office, you have the cutest office,
Speaker 3Isn't it amazing. I love my office. Um, so I'll tell you why my office is the way it is. So I work for an, um, Northern children's services, which is the behavioral health, um, and residential facility for children and, uh, homeless, teenage moms. So as a landlord, so the generations program I'd often have the girls come over, which are my residents, a teenage moms. Um, they stopped by my office and just, you know, we talked about the friend and different things that they wanted to do, and they would always have their little ones with them. So I wanted my office to feel like a living room. I wanted it to be a very welcoming and inviting space. Um, of course I'm a huge fan of midcentury modern. And so, um, along with a couple other friends locally and a few events, I started pegging up all of the pieces that are in my office. And eventually I dwindled down to a very small desk. That's kind of tucked into a pocket corner of my office that almost you walk in, you don't actually see where my desk is. And the rest of my office is all vintage furniture set up. Like the living room had the carpet, had the mid century, modern table have grandma and grandpa has chairs, you know, like the whole. So it is it's, it was more about making it a really homey environment for the kids. Um, and we do have like a sanctuary model. So if a child's just wants to, or even a staff just needs to just go talk to someone, you offer them a space to be. And so I just made sure that my office was always very welcoming and inviting and everyone calls it. It's like the living room of our building.
Speaker 2Oh. Cause I always see your opposite of the day pictures there and your outfit of the day picture. I think I said that and I just love the office and it's so I love now. I even love it even more now knowing why it's the way it is. Oh, wow.
Speaker 3It's all about making it a really comfortable environment for them. So it starts with my office and it's kind of evolved. I have like fellow coworkers and now have like sofas in their offices and recliners in their offices, but that's a really good thing, but that's the best thing about my agency that they really welcome, um, folks making their workspace very homey and very inviting. So it absolutely just lends for like the best day. Everyone's like trying to top each other. And I'm like, you guys have years to catch up with all of this stuff I have in my office.
Speaker 2So since you work a lot with the community, that's why your, your, your passion with community service blended into when you started the bells.
Speaker 3Yeah. So, um, funny enough, I actually was before, um, getting involved in pinup, I was actually a roller Derby skater and I started my career in Derby much later in life. Um, and I tore my ACL and then I retort and I sprained my meniscus on my right knee. So it was time to get off the skates. Um, but during the time of Derby, we had connected with a group called distributing dignity, which, you know, I'm sort of ever familiar with. We, the bell highly endorsed, distributing dignity with the I've personally been working for them for year, you know, with them for years since I was in Derby. Um, so that was a group that I just knew I wanted to keep attached to. Um, so a little about a little about DD is they are a nonprofit, um, based out of New Jersey and it's just two owners. Um, two women, they have a warehouse in Jersey. They, they run out and they collect, um, new bra and panties with tags and feminine hygiene products and unopened feminine hygiene products. And what they do is they provide it for homeless shelters. Um, they, well, for women's homeless shelters, they provided for women that are coming out of prison, girls that are aging out of foster, um, medically bedbound, catastrophic lead displays. So they really do focus on helping women with just the basic life essentials, just you you've had that moment when you're in the ladies room and you get your friends, you did not expect it. And you're hoping that knock knock in the store next to you, has something that they can help you with. Um, so that push to really empower women was why I gravitated to distributing dignity. And I'm like, alright, I already love doing this. So let's, let's do something bigger. And so when I had decided to start the bells, I wanted to have a group that was always of service. Um, that's actually one of our little lines amongst ourselves, you know, be of service and Sophia and I, a little Lucy may the vice president, we had talked about what we wanted this pinup to be. And so one of the things that we had talked about was we wanted it to be a very welcoming group. We wanted it to be for about, uh, for pinups that had any level of experience, whether they had none, whether they had, you know, extreme modeling, you know, we wanted it to be a very welcoming space. Um, both she and I had experienced rejection, um, in a toll that you don't have enough experience as a pinup or, you know, you need more social media following to be part of our group. And that, wasn't what it was about for us. It was about supporting women, getting together with like minded women, um, that really loves the lifestyle and love the culture, but also want it to do the service. So that's kind of where the idea and the concept of the bells really grew. Um, and so we do, we focus on four platforms every year. Um, we PR we do work with the military, um, whether they're active, deployed or veterans, we work with the elderly. Um, we work with women's services and we've worked with children's services. So throughout the year, we'll do, um, work with different groups that are nonprofit. Um, we try not to collect any money ourselves. We always direct that any funds go directly to them, but we also collect items and support, whatever cause or effort that we are working with that specific group. Um, so it's just kind of all meshed together. For me. It was just like an easy transition from Derby to bringing this love of helping the community that, you know, evolved into the bells and Sophie and I just kind of hit the ground running and we are now knocking on our third year. So I, I am blessed. We started like, I think it was like 10 or 11 girls, and now we're up to 26 and we're taking, we're taking new applicants right now. So I'm excited, you know, there's this love that's, that's growing with the bells. I'm, I'm proud. I'm so proud
Speaker 2Watching it since the beginning. Cause I've known you since I followed you on Instagram since your Derby day,
Speaker 3You were like goals. When I first saw you, I was like, who is she? Like, I'm like, I want to be her when I grow up, you know, I was like, sorry, gals that were out there. Um, so you know, Susie doll in New York Brown paper bag. Yeah. So there you go. Like, I was looking at that Susie and I'm like, God, look at her. She's astonishing. And so I really started following a lot of like women of color and I'm like, Oh, there are girls of color and pin up. Oh, so this is just really, it's a serendipitous. It's all just kind of coming together. Um, I, I can't even express how much I love it. And when I finally got to meet youth was like, Oh my God, I met a celebrity that was pretty vocal, like goals. You were like, Oh my, when I saw you in your black down, Holy cow, I'm not worthy to close to what you had on. I'm like, I need to go back and get you
Speaker 2Girl. You've been beautiful every time I see you either in picture and photos or anywhere, I'm sure you look good
Speaker 3When a hair is not, you know, like all over, but yeah, you,
Speaker 2It's a Spanish thing. I feel like having big hair and all over the place when you wake up. Because I only, I see that with like all Spanish people.
Speaker 3Well that I know and my family. Yeah.
Speaker 2Cause my hair is always like this. It's always like,
Speaker 3Yeah. And you always have like those curls that are in the room that you're trying to like. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very, very big there. I love the fact that has, has evolved and let her natural Crowell come in. Cause she's got the most amazing, like really spiral curls. And I'm like, I used to like that when I was younger. So yeah, we do. We have like the big hair. So the eighties was awful, but you had the eighties. I had the big curly permed, eighties hair with the Aquanet, like, and like, you know, like the whole bang and I would go up a couple inches and then down and like the whole swoop over your eye. That was me. I did that. I can see you rollerskating with that, that air spray.
Speaker 2I did have a question about your roller Derby. What, what, what made you get into roller Derby? Because when I think of roller Derby, I think of pain, but yet I think badass women, it's like, it's like,
Speaker 3Okay. So I actually got connected with roller Derby before becoming a skater. Um, a friend of mine, Nikki, uh, she, she actually went to about for the Philly roller girls and well Philly, well then Philly, roller girls now they're Philly roller Derby. Um, and she loved about, and she's like, they need some cheerleaders. And so she reached out to me and in high school, of course I was a cheerleader and I'm like, hell yeah, let's be cheerleaders for roller Derby, by the way, what's roller Derby, you know? And so I went to a balance and I'm like, Oh yeah, I want to be part of this. So after some talking to the powers that be, and all of leadership at Philly roller Derby, they allowed us to create a small, um, subtle group of peer leaders. So we were the Philly peer leaders and we just had the whole like tongue in cheek and like, think of like Joan Jett kind of, you know, edgy, like bad reputation. Like that was kind of like how we were. Um, so we sidelined window cheerleader, cheerleading and uh, that's my love of Derby group then. Um, and so after a few years of being on the sideline, I'm like, I want to put skates on, I want to try this. And so tenders, the roller Derby, which was the league that I joined, um, they're coed. So one of my friends says, Hey, why don't you try mine? You know, Penn Jersey, they worked well with rookies and, you know, I had, I could skate, but not skate. Like Derby skating is totally different. Um, so I did, I went into the, um, the assessments and injured my ACL, right in assessment. I injured myself and I was like, all right, so going into it. So I still went in with a knee brace on and I just try to learn as much as I could recover from that, got on the skates and then just hit the ground running. It was just like Epic. Um, but yes, Derby is incredibly difficult. Um, one of the things that I pride myself on is the fact that it was a coed, well, it still is it's coed. And so I got to train with the guys and the girls, I got to take hits and learn how to take hits from guys and girls. So my Derby wife, which we do have in roller Derby, um, my wife, his name is RJ. Um, so love you, RJ. He actually was, uh, in the class before me. So if you've worked a lot with me and was training me and so I'm like, RJ hit me and he was like, okay. So he'd come flying around and you know, Ram his body into me. And then I'd have like another one of the skaters, Michael, who was like six something, 200 plus pounds. I'm like, Mike hit me. Cause I really wanted to learn how to take a hit and not fall. Or if I took a hit, how to get back up and nothing better than having the guys hate you. Because if you can take one of these big guys down, you could certainly defend yourself out there. And so, and I had like some of the really strong female skaters, like, alright, I need you guys to hit me. Like I really, really want to try. And it was constantly, constantly falling and I hurt my Cox's, my tailbone. And that was fine. Um, I literally injured myself all over, but I just kept going and kept going and kept going. And then one of my very first bouts, one of the guys that I trained with Mike, I kept saying, I'm like, I'm coming for you. Come in for you. And finally, like our second jam, you know, we're both, you know, we're both out there and I managed to just hook them just right on his side. And I put them on his back and I'm like, you know, I'm like, I got like 200 pounds. I'm like five one. So I'm like zooming away. He's like, that was wonderful. And I'm like, please don't kill me. But yeah. So that's how like intense it was, but it's so much fun. And truly like the roller Derby community is very much a huge gigantic band. And in Derby because you skate so close and you are in close quarters and hands are going everywhere, your hand go in places for other people and other people's hands going places with you and you just kind of have to get comfortable. There is no personal space, but there's nothing better than when you're skating in a pack. And you know that your team has got your back and you've got somebody on each side of you and you're just building this wall. Like you gotta get through us. So I was a blocker. So I'm like, yeah, you got to get past me to get my jammer. So I loved it. And every time I'd come home with a bruise, I'm like, look, look, look, I had another bruise. Look how amazing this one is. You know, I'm like, Oh yeah, I took that from this person. And so the bruises to me were like trophy, you know? And every time I came home with another bruise and I wasn't dead, I'm like, yeah, I did it. You know, so it was, it was intense, but it was so much fun and it really just helped my confidence. And I lost weight with that. And just, it was just like this brain energy. And I'm still very much in touch with a lot of my Derby family still in touch with my best RJ. Um, but I do, I absolutely love him. I still go to bounce on occasion just to go see and scream and cheer them on. It's just so much fun. It's amazing.
Speaker 2And what you said, confidence, like one thing that I admire about you the most is that you exude confidence. So I was curious to know like, and I'm sure everyone listening would like to know cause you know, we always go through things in life and we want to improve ourselves and not, and stop being shy and stop doing, you know, stop holding back. So what were things that helped or what shaped you to become, you know, more confident in yourself and in everything that you do, was it roller Derby? Cause you said a roller Derby or for any advice that you have. Go ahead.
Speaker 3I, so I can, I can tell you this, if you don't already know, I'm a pretty big personality. I am, I am the baby of seven and then I have my adopted siblings. So there's 10 altogether. Um, so you learned young the baby, right? So, but my mother and my father were both very, um, public people. Um, so my father, God rest his soul. He was a guitarist. This was his guitar right here. Um, so he was a performer and he was always on stage and he was the first Puerto Rican. He and his group was the first Puerto Rican, um, group to play at the Smithsonian museum at, um, Washington DC. And my mother was very much involved in a lot of community events and a lot of, um, work with, you know, the impoverished community and supporting your neighborhood and supporting the Latino culture. And then she was a promoter. So she was also like the MC onstage and organize a lot of events. So I grew up with parents that were very much up and out and I learned that from them. And ironically enough, I wasn't really in secure until like my thirties. And then it just kinda clicked for me. I'm like, I'm living my, for me, I'm not living life for anyone else's opinion. Right. So I just kind of held onto, I learned with my mom and what I learned with my dad. And so a lot of like my stage presence and my really bad jokes when I'm hosting pinup contest. But jokes come from my dad. He was definitely the one that always had jokes and just the big energy on stage definitely came from my mother. So it was put, it was instilled in me very, very young. Um, and then I kind of fight it down when I was in my teens and twenties, it was a little weird. I was awkward. And then my thirties hit and it's kind of live and back up for me. And I'm just like, I got to embrace this person and my biggest energy and either like, I don't like it. I'm like, there's really no in between, but at the same time, it's also been like, I don't because my mother very much would take us when we were younger. My mother would take us out to these events. And so they were doing Turkey drives and they were feeding the homeless and they were, you know, working in the community and their neighborhood sweep up. My mother would have us all out there. So it was never a moment of, you're not going to roll up your sleeves, you're going to do work. Um, these are your people, these are our family. So we are helping. And that was very like, that was instilled in us so very, very early. Um, and I love that. I love that my mother made sure that I understood that, um, hard work and community togetherness is what makes a person, right? So when you're involved in your community and your environment, you grow as they grow. And it was very easy for me to adapt that mindset in pin helping and with the bells. And I've, you know, no I'm notorious for whenever any of my bills is on a stage or on a panel contest. I will absolutely yell that's my bell. So this half of my life, cause here's, here's my opinion. If your president is not your loudest supporter and your biggest supporter, then you're in the wrong club because you need to be with a group that completely supports you and cheers you on to everything. You do everything, whether it's helping or not. You know, I have Lauren at lilac who was one of my girls has, they might kick in, but riding her bike and she's like miles and miles and her time, but she's cutting it down. And I'm like every single time she posts, I'm like, that's my girl. That's right cake. But like, you totally have this. And, and it, and it's just writing, I guess she's cycling. But again, if you don't have your, president's not supporting you and loving upon you, then you just have the wrong president. You're just not in the right group because there's not a bill that I don't dote upon. And I make it a point to check in with them. Often I'll go to all their social media and I'll make sure I comment and let them know that I love them. And I'm thinking about them. If I reach out to them, like to me, it's important. We call ourselves sisters, you know, the belts are sisters. We support each other. And at my darkest time, when I lost my father two years ago, I would not have been standing if it weren't for my belts. Like I hit the worst depression of my life and my dad was everything to me. So I count it wholeheartedly on the bells to get me through it. Obviously I had my family, but the bells are, you know, the they're women that just love on each other. And I, I can't complain. Like I love every single one of them. There's, there's not one that I just don't simply adore. And they've gotten me through so much that I just love them so much more. And I just make sure I shower them back with the same level.
Speaker 2It just is. It's amazing. Just like, um, I've noticed that every time you're in a group, you have that backup, you say in your, in your roller Derby, you had to make sure everyone is together. So I forgot the name of the player, but so nobody comes in and penetrates. And then you have this group of girls that they're, they're so hard. That's something that we all strive for. And I, I applaud you. It's so amazing.
Speaker 3I mean, we've hit obstacles. I think every, every pin of group, you know, goes through every pin up and every pin on group goes through there up and downs. Then you have like friends, you know, you are brothers, sisters, son, you have your struggles. And you have folks that are naysayers and you have folks that are, you know, Tara, you know, just ruining your name and just trying to hurt you. But it's like, we rise above that. We don't, we don't engage in that. I don't, I don't do the social media drama. I don't allow it in a group. Like we are just like, no, we rise above that this social media is not real life. Right? So we, as women in real life should always be there to support each other. So I try to always stay focused on that. Like, I can get really frustrated, but I'm never putting out there. Like, you know, when I'll, I'll lean on the girls before I put anything else out there and they've gotten me through so much, so I it's working, it's working.
Speaker 2This is why we buy them. I feel like we have the same mentality just to different States.
Speaker 3Literally, when you got here, you were an honorary bell. I'm like, yes, you do that. You're the, you're the honorary bell in Florida. So now we have a bell in Florida, soon as number 27. There you go. Boom.
Speaker 2Let me ask you you're you're a mother. How do you balance everything or are your kids?
Speaker 3Well, my kids are older, so this is, this is like the time for me to really enjoy life. So no, my son is on his own. Um, he actually is very successful in tattooing us. So he's done this piece and did my dad's tribute. Um, my arm, um, my son, my son, Michael, has always wanted to tattoo. And so now he's with, um, swagger house studios and just he and Ron are kicking butt. He, his career skyrocketed bought himself his car. He got himself, the 20, 20 supra. Um, you know, so he's a young man. He's, he's in his twenties later twenties. I'm not going to say at my age, um, you know, he's, he's single, he's not, you know, in any serious relationship and he's just living his life. So I am like the sideline cheerleader. Like that's my baby yet. That one right there. He's my, and my daughter is now I'm a rising senior. So she'll be graduating in the spring and God from temple university. So she, um, just studying to be a physician's assistant. But I think now there might be a change in the career. So my daughter, Melissa is currently a college student, um, ms. She was at home, but she's also, um, she also works as a scribe. So I worked in the ER with the doc. So she's fully immersed, um, with, with everything that's happening now. COVID, she's, she's very much an essential worker. She's 22. So she's out there in the trenches all the time and she's studying in the medical field. So I have a lot of, you know, time for me. And so it's a little easier for me to juggle if they were younger, I wouldn't be able to do as much as I do now, but that are older. I have all the freedom. And you have a Tiki bar that you made. It's a little dark outside. I'm sorry. My, my patio lights are not on thing happening. So yes, the blue Flamingo, uh, that was our quarantine. Um, so you know, you're, you're home. You gotta gotta do something of your home. Um, an idle hands get, puts a work. So the Mister got out here and started building my blue Flamingo. Um, I'm obsessed with flamingos, so, and the posts are blue. So I decided to name her, the blue Flamingo. And it was moved from the front of the yard now to the back of the yard. But I found out that we have a hive of yellow jackets back there behind the Tiki bar. So I am not going near it. I'm like, okay, they own a yard. They now have a Tiki bar. I'll sit in the house, have fun guy.
Speaker 2Do you have any questions for me?
Speaker 3Yeah. So how, how did you get well, okay. So I know your story prior to, um, really becoming pin up Miami, but I am completely just in awe of you. Like, how did you manage to organize pin of episode? It's national, like this, this thing grew from this little to this big and like that, and it's so like in sync and everyone loves it. Like we were telling you,
Speaker 2Cause I feel like I'm in South Florida. So I don't really, like, sometimes I feel like I'm excluded of everything. So I, um, I don't know, it all started because I have Penn South Florida, which is a meetup group. I just put up events and just have people join in because there's not really anything down here. So a lot of the girls couldn't go to dapper day cause they were, they had family dapper days, uh, going, uh, uh, dapper day out at Disney world. And uh, a lot of the girls couldn't afford it, even though we're only three hours, three to four hours away. It's like they couldn't afford it. You know, renting a place for like four people have a family and, and I couldn't afford it, even though I'm by myself, I was like, hi, what can we do that we could dress up. And you know, I wanted to do something like dapper day, but I wanted to make it more relaxed and more accessible it's okay. So we also also wanted to do something in the community that every, you know, I didn't think nationally at all, I literally was thinking like, let's do something that people don't do all the time, but people will reminisce and be like, Oh my God, I did this as a kid. So the first thing me and a couple of the girls at one of the brunt, Pinot brunches, I whole state was, um, they said the zoom, we haven't been in the zoo forever. My kids would love the zoo. And I said, well, that's nice. Real zoos, like really do take care of their animals. See me. And it's not like Carol Baskin or anything, but, but so yeah, I just did a pinups at the zoo and I made a flyer and uh, all of a sudden this girl on Facebook and I, I kinda hate that. I don't remember her name. If I see her picture a girl, one random person on Facebook message me and said, I want to do the same thing you're doing in Miami, but here. And I said, I started thinking, I'm like, well, you know, I, I don't, I don't put credit in anything that I do. Like I don't put my logo on anything, you know, pinups at the zoo. I keep it its own thing. Cause I want to make it a community based thing because I didn't think, I didn't think it was going to get as big. So I, um, this girl reached out and I said, look, I can help you. I'll make you the flyer. Just, you know, I don't get permission for my zoo, cause my zoo didn't want to, you know, be part of it. But if you get permission from your zoo, like, you know, so then I said, you'll be in charge of that, but I'll, I'll, I'll help you promote it and I'll make a flyer and I didn't have a website. It was just two events. But then one of my girls down here, they decided to post it in all those pinup groups on the, no, like in a week I had like 200 requests. I ended up making so many flyers and then I said, well then let me just make a website. And since uh, yeah. So then yeah, I am a little behind right now because of the whole coven and, and, and a lot of people are switching their dates and I need to update it. So I feel kind of a little behind, but I guess everyone understands. Yeah. Yeah. Because right now nobody's going to the zoo. But, uh, but yeah, that's what happened. And I just wanted it to be an event that like, if you lived anywhere, like the only zoo that, uh, actually is hosted by the zoo is Alaska. The Alaska zoo reached out to me and they wanted to be part of it. And Andy Laska well, and, and, and, and in, um, and in, and Oh my God and Ireland too. Are you Ireland? Yes. Wonderful. I'm so proud of you. Yeah. That's how it started. And it just literally blew up. And then I honestly always believe, like how you say about hard work is like, you know, I try, you know, I wanted to unite people through the zoo since it started growing. And then, uh, I just people like when you reached out to me for the zoo, I told them, okay, this is going to be you. I don't know the area. So you do everything and just give me your Facebook link and I'll link it and have one place to put everything. And it's really been a great method. And, and it's just been consistent and answering back on time. And, and I think, you know, I try, every time I give a response to everyone and I, and I did get, and I haven't had any drama, cause I know some locations have like more than one Pinnell group. Cause I've learned about so many pinup groups doing kind of the zoo. Um, you know, but there hasn't been any drama cause I may get first come first serve.
Speaker 3Okay. Okay. That's smart. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah.
Speaker 2It's open for anyone. Even people that are individual people that don't know anybody like how I started my meetup group. I didn't know anybody when I started it. So I tell people, even if you're by yourself, put it out there and see who shows up.
Speaker 3You never know we've had such an amazing turnout every like the last two that we did. Cause we didn't get to do it this year where we're actually talking about planning ours now. Um, but we had like our first year we had something like, well over 20 ladies that came out and then like the second year we had, we worked with on the pinups for mental health awareness. Um, they joined us and we've actually inherited a couple of the girls as belts. Um, so, but it did, it started gaining momentum and w I was just really blown away. I'm like, wow, this is like 80 Bob's so quickly. And it grew legs so, so quickly. And I'm like, look at Jen, like she's really kicking butt out there. And so of course I'm like, well, we got, she visited ours, ours first, you know? So that's always my bragging game. Right. I'm like, well, you got you for, is that of all the pinups, you know, all the Plato groups that had, uh, we're going to come out with, we got your first, I'm super excited that you had your second year with us.
Speaker 2Yes. Because my goal was the, that year was, I want to go somewhere outside of Florida. I went to other places in Florida, but I'm always in Florida. So I was, then I reached out to you and I was so hesitant. Cause I was like, just, lady's gonna think
Speaker 3Just crazy. I mean, I think you're crazy, but you're amazing. Crazy. So,
Speaker 2And it was a great experience and I hope in the future, my goal is to go to at least one or I wish I could go to more. So if anybody's listening and any locations you want to host me,
Speaker 3So I, I love it. It's so much fun. Thank you. It means a lot. It's such a bonding fun day and you got to experience at a Philly. It's like we would take maybe 15, 27 volts or like, who are you? Can we take pictures? And then I'm like, so she's a national organizer. Maybe go take a picture with this, you know, yellow hair and beauty over here. But yeah. So it was, it was kind of amazing to have you there on our second year because people were familiar, a little familiar with it with the first year and they're like, Oh, we remember you. Oh. And then we had a lot of like zoo staff come out and they're like, yeah, this is amazing. And it had, it had grown. So, and we were just, I mean, we've all said it, we're just in complete awe of you. I'm like, look at what you're doing. And I'm like this again. I saw you and I'm like, I want to be her. I want to do that.
Speaker 2Well, you're saying, that's why I did that a Facebook group for just the organizers, because it, and you see in that group, people take it as their own little thing and get ideas. Like, you know, some locations get buttons and make somebody in their group makes buttons and mine. Like I make hand fans, you know, just cute things to pass out. It's a great way to promote. Like if you have a group who you are in the community and it's a great way to promote, um, pin-up culture because a lot of people assume pinup is like just stripping. Cause I get that a lot. I've had, I actually own pinups at the zoo and retro day at the zoo because a lot of people didn't like it. So,
Speaker 3But it's all about,
Speaker 2Oh, it's about education. And that's why I, I mean, I never really hold a hole in a whole changed it to retro day at the zoo because you know, my love is pinup custom culture, rock and roll, you know, so I wanted to keep it, but for a few locations I have changed it just to accommodate because you know, I do understand that they want to keep it separate.
Speaker 3Yeah. Cause there is a stigma and although pinup is so, I mean, well kind of a, such a huge umbrella, you have every type of pin up out there. There's no like right pin up, you know? And I think that that pin up lends itself to so many levels and so many like creative facets that there is no wrong pinup. You know what I mean? And I think that there's a lot of stigma behind pinup and there's a lot of shaming, but when you really look at the entire culture and you look at like the whole scene of a up, it's like, no, it's just a bunch of girls that like to play dress up and really loving the aesthetic and the lifestyle. And um, but yeah, you're right. I, I see what you mean about like having the stigma of up and what people associated to be.
Speaker 2I learned that in a couple of events and stuff that I've had to work hard,
Speaker 3What girl you are like the like example of a truly cheesecake, then you weren't just like, I, it kills me. You make these dresses and I'm like, really? Can I just like send you money? And my measurements, I want to do that. I want to look like Minnie mouse. Like, come on lady. You, you do like, I swear. You're like, Cinderella's, god-mom, you know, the whole bippity boppity, boo. And then here you go, boom. And she's in this amazing dress. And I'm like, this, this woman makes her stop.
Speaker 2And I love my Hispanic heritage is dress. I've been working on I'm a little behind on my timeline, but it will be up for the middle of Medicare incision.
Speaker 3Well, it's funny Spanish heritage because Peggy pineapple and I are working on a little something on our end for Hispanic. So that's funny, but we'll have to do a little yeah, yeah. After this, I'm going to tell you.
Speaker 2Yeah. Uh, so yeah, it's just, um, it's just educating people about rockabilly culture and pin up. Do you have anything else for me?
Speaker 3Um, so actually, yeah, I, I
Speaker 2I'll play what we're working on right now. Tell me,
Speaker 3So again, I told you I'm working for Northern till the services. Um, and we recently had some young ladies that came into our agency that were, um, trafficked. Um, and they were from central American countries. And so as I was working with them and translating, you know, exams, um, bilingual and whatnot, um, I really, really, really got to get to know the girls a lot more that are in the residential program and just really getting involved with them a lot more. And so then I realized, wow, like our girls really do need a lot of help. So the generations program, um, which is the portion that I'm, I'm focusing on right now, um, they have really young girls. So our girls age range from like 14 to like 17 and they're teen moms that are homeless. So I was a teen mom and I have this absolute love and empathy for all of my residents. Like I love, love, love these girls and they're silly and they're playful and they're moody and they're cranky, but I get it, you know, as a team on my absolutely relate to them. Um, so the bells decided that we were going to adopt generations. And so that's actually our next campaign that we're working on. Um, so here's the skinny. Um, so the bells are going to adopt generations. We are focusing our calendar this year on a very specific type of shoot that we're going to do. All the proceeds from the calendar sales are going directly to Northern children's services to provide new items for the girls because although folks make donations, a lot of donations that they get are used folding and more often than not, you'll find that those donations that we get our clothes that no women should even like, you don't want it anymore because it's filthy. Why would you give it to the girls to wear it? You know what I mean, with that? We've created an Amazon wishlist for, um, the generations program. And it literally has everything from bedding down to nursing pads, down to diapers, onesies clothing for the children, um, toys for the babies, maternity outfits for the mommies bedroom slippers. Cause they don't even have bedroom slippers. Um, so we created this monster list on Amazon. And so we're going to push that out. That's going to be on our campaign, we're working on our generation's campaign. Um, so anyone can hop on and directly purchase off the Amazon wishlist and it'll go right to Northern or the generations program, the calendar sales, it's going to go right to Northern for generations program and working with distributing dignity, we're going to get bras and panties and feminine hygiene products. That's going right to the generations program. So our girls are going to get a lot of donations, but it's all new stuff. And that's a rarity right now, like during COVID, it makes it really hard. So again, it's that women supporting women. So we want to be the big sisters. We want to adopt this group of girls. And we want to show them that you can be a team mom and still be successful and, and grow to be a wonderful contributor to your community. Um, I was a teenage mom. Some of my girls were teenage moms and they're fighting. They're just chomping at the bit to get this bank going because they do want to work with our teen group at Northern. So that's been in the works for a couple of weeks now and we've been kind of ironing out a lot of details and we're about to roll out the campaign and that'll roll us through for a couple of months since we didn't get to really do a lot of other stuff. So it's going to tie our women's services, our children's services together because we're also working with babies in the program and there are some babies I'm lucky enough that I get to play with the baby. Um, but yeah, so that's, that's what our next campaign is right now is we're going to be working with our generation program. So it's, you know, women of all generations. It's amazing. I'm so excited about it. And um, without getting too much into like the details, cause you know, I want to keep this a secret on what's gonna be out there. But one of the things we are going to do is ask the residents and we'll keep it anonymous, you know, cause HIPAA. Um, but I'm going to ask all my residents to give me a little coat, little something and put it in the calendar. So you get words from each of our residents that are receiving the benefits of all this love. So, you know, and I, when I spoke to the girls, they're like, miss Judy, am I going to be in the calendar? And I'm like, no, baby, I want your quote in the calendar and the calendar I would love to, but can't, but they're all excited about it. And so I opened up my laptop and I supposed to start adding stuff to the wishlist and they're like, well, I don't want those slippers in bread and I want this and you need to get that baby blanket and pick because there's more girls. And I had all around me and I'm like, cause everything in here, you guys are running yet. I'm like the goal is to empty the list. That's our goal is everything in there to provide for these girls, everything new cause they deserve new items. They deserve a chance to really feel special and love the font. And it's going to be my personal mission to be that,
Speaker 2Oh wow, that's amazing. That's going to make them feel better. Yeah. Like you said, moving on in, in their life to do more and feel like they're enough.
Speaker 3And the wonderful thing about the program is that it does teach them life skills. So they're not just homeless and living at a group home. It's there. They're going to school there. They're getting their education. They're learning how to cook. They're learning how to keep a home. They're learning how to build resumes, apply for jobs. Like our residential portfolio program evolves through different stages. So it's gen one gen SMO and new generation. So new gen literally gets them to their twenties. They're like writing and move on their own. So it is an evolution of the generations program. So right now I'm honing in on my younger girls. Um, cause they're the ones that need the most, but each of the girls can go through this program and really learn a lot and gain and we hold them accountable. So you have chores, you have chores to, do you have homework, you have homework to get done. You got to go to work, what's work schedule. Um, you know, they get privileges. They get to go out. They have, you know, different things that they did that they do together. Um, the campus is huge. So they have both side and really relax and still be in a protected environment. Cause that's what we want is their safety first. Um, but it is a program that absolutely gives them a fighting chance as long as they stick to it and really devote themselves, they, they leave our program and they can leave our program with a really high hope of success. Like they, they won't be completely like ready. And that's what I love about it is that Northern, it's just not our residential. It's not just our behavioral health. If the agency is in itself, just nurtures children in every possible way. So how can I not do it on my girls? Like generation group babies. I love them. So I'm really excited to roll this out. Like I said, we've, we've had it in talks for a couple of weeks now. Um, and we've been really preparing to launch it. We want to make sure we do it the right way. We want to make sure that we're respectful and modest about everything on how we present ourselves. Because unfortunately the girls do come from really bad situations. Like I said, some were traffic somewhere, domestic violence, some were drug addiction. So we want to make sure that we show them nothing but strike and respect. We want to make sure that they all get the respect that they deserve and that their voices are heard. I love it. I'm so excited about it. I am truly, truly excited about it.
Speaker 2Thank you so much for sharing. Um, and about yourself, about what you're going to do. Um, your group, your ladies, your past it really, I got to learn a lot about you.
Speaker 3Well, thank you so much. Bryce is hanging out with a friend.
Speaker 2Yes. And if you guys want to see more about Judy or find out more, follow her at Judy Justice on Instagram, and if you're interested in the bells at the PA Liberty bells and a hit them up there, if you're interested in the Bell's interested in volunteering, donating, cause that's amazing.
Speaker 3And I'm an Amazon wishlist so that if anybody wants to donate to the
Speaker 2It's a link and I'll put it in the description, I'll put everything that we talked about in the description below. It should be. It shows up everywhere on iTunes, Spotify and on YouTube. But yes, it's going to be great. And uh, um, I'm just really happy to have interviewed you today and have a chat. And next week I have I'm the owner of think thrift is, uh, a local to me, thrift store. That's where I got this leopard calf tan girl. Talk about thrifting and how she inner workings work handy. Thank you. No, I just, there's a first time I wore this one today. No, no, no. But you were at her stop reset. Yes, I do. Facebook lives every Sunday with rockabilly ki and um, and yeah, I just, uh, yeah, I got this. It's on the video. Yeah. Now we need to go shopping. Yes. I'll take you everywhere that I know that's settling down there so we can totally make it a family down. I'm down. Thank you. I'm so excited. All right. Thank you Judy. And next week I'm going to talk to her and I thank you all for listening in,
Speaker 1Have a wonderful week. I'll see you on next while everyone. Thank you.