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Wow."},{"startTime":1445.51,"endTime":1446.711,"body":"Because that's what I'm saying."},{"startTime":1446.711,"endTime":1447.112,"body":"Like,"},{"startTime":1447.112,"endTime":1449.047,"body":"everyone thinks"},{"startTime":1447.112,"endTime":1449.047,"body":"the twenties were all prude,"},{"startTime":1449.047,"endTime":1451.082,"body":"but it wasn't like they were around"},{"startTime":1449.047,"endTime":1451.082,"body":"doing this stuff."},{"startTime":1451.082,"endTime":1455.22,"body":"Well, okay, I did not know that that's"},{"startTime":1451.082,"endTime":1455.22,"body":"all over the place, but no, it's okay."},{"startTime":1455.22,"endTime":1457.189,"body":"It's okay. 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Take it away."},{"startTime":1475.373,"endTime":1480.479,"body":"I was like, okay,"},{"startTime":1475.373,"endTime":1480.479,"body":"any questions for Dan for signing off?"},{"startTime":1480.479,"endTime":1482.08,"body":"You did very well. Dan I thought"},{"startTime":1483.215,"endTime":1485.317,"body":"you hated"},{"startTime":1486.818,"endTime":1489.855,"body":"I did."},{"startTime":1490.222,"endTime":1491.823,"body":"I'm glad you liked it."},{"startTime":1491.823,"endTime":1493.024,"body":"No, I want to see it again."},{"startTime":1493.024,"endTime":1494.693,"body":"But it's such a commitment."},{"startTime":1494.693,"endTime":1495.794,"body":"I mean, yeah, it is."},{"startTime":1495.794,"endTime":1497.762,"body":"It was where you bought it all. That's."},{"startTime":1497.762,"endTime":1499.397,"body":"I guess that's a good question. Very."},{"startTime":1499.397,"endTime":1501.967,"body":"You feel that there is a time maybe,"},{"startTime":1499.397,"endTime":1501.967,"body":"and like, the second."},{"startTime":1501.967,"endTime":1504.069,"body":"Third or that they were two thirds in."},{"startTime":1504.102,"endTime":1510.108,"body":"I was, I was like"},{"startTime":1504.102,"endTime":1510.108,"body":"are we going to get a lyric aleo cameo."},{"startTime":1510.108,"endTime":1513.011,"body":"Well I mean he's friends with Toby,"},{"startTime":1510.108,"endTime":1513.011,"body":"right, And Lucas houses."},{"startTime":1513.111,"endTime":1513.745,"body":"Yeah. 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Yeah, it was. Oh, yeah, it was."},{"startTime":1535.934,"endTime":1540.305,"body":"Yeah, it was pretty much from,"},{"startTime":1535.934,"endTime":1540.305,"body":"like the first explosion"},{"startTime":1540.305,"endTime":1543.441,"body":"and then with with Peggy,"},{"startTime":1540.305,"endTime":1543.441,"body":"I went, Oh, my God."},{"startTime":1543.441,"endTime":1546.011,"body":"Like, I can't believe. 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So ridiculous."},{"startTime":1574.873,"endTime":1576.741,"body":"I know, I know. 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Thanks again for listening."},{"startTime":4763.125,"endTime":4767.229,"body":"You can watch my films"},{"startTime":4763.125,"endTime":4767.229,"body":"and read my movie blog at Alex Withrow dot"},{"startTime":4767.229,"endTime":4771.466,"body":"com Nicholas Dose Tor.com is where you can"},{"startTime":4767.229,"endTime":4771.466,"body":"find all of Nick's film work."},{"startTime":4771.666,"endTime":4777.539,"body":"Send us mailbag questions at What"},{"startTime":4771.666,"endTime":4777.539,"body":"are you watching Pod cast at gmail.com"},{"startTime":4777.773,"endTime":4782.644,"body":"or find us on Twitter"},{"startTime":4777.773,"endTime":4782.644,"body":"at w aiw underscore podcast"},{"startTime":4782.911,"endTime":4785.914,"body":"after discussing a movie that no has seen."},{"startTime":4786.081,"endTime":4789.651,"body":"Next time we're going to talk about"},{"startTime":4786.081,"endTime":4789.651,"body":"a movie that nearly everyone has seen."},{"startTime":4789.885,"endTime":4792.12,"body":"Avatar The Way of Water."},{"startTime":4792.12,"endTime":4795.69,"body":"Yep, we're going all in Avatar Big Jim."},{"startTime":4795.957,"endTime":4796.725,"body":"Stay tuned."},{"startTime":4797.926,"endTime":4799.294,"body":"Now, usually the"},{"startTime":4799.294,"endTime":4802.197,"body":"episode ends by now,"},{"startTime":4799.294,"endTime":4802.197,"body":"but I'm still talking."},{"startTime":4802.297,"endTime":4804.199,"body":"I'm going to let this music fade out."},{"startTime":4804.199,"endTime":4806.568,"body":"Awkward. 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