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Great Great cinema."},{"startTime":5026.087,"endTime":5027.489,"body":"I'm glad you threw that one in there."},{"startTime":5027.489,"endTime":5030.225,"body":"I did that for you,"},{"startTime":5027.489,"endTime":5030.225,"body":"The Witches of Eastwick."},{"startTime":5030.225,"endTime":5033.061,"body":"And let's talk about the Oscars"},{"startTime":5030.225,"endTime":5033.061,"body":"for a second here."},{"startTime":5033.061,"endTime":5035.063,"body":"This is a tough one"},{"startTime":5033.061,"endTime":5035.063,"body":"because the Deer Hunter"},{"startTime":5035.063,"endTime":5037.966,"body":"was nominated for nine awards"},{"startTime":5035.063,"endTime":5037.966,"body":"and it won five."},{"startTime":5037.966,"endTime":5040.702,"body":"It's tough because I'm never going"},{"startTime":5037.966,"endTime":5040.702,"body":"to argue with the awards."},{"startTime":5040.702,"endTime":5042.103,"body":"That one. 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It's okay."},{"startTime":5082.177,"endTime":5085.18,"body":"It's like Bob,"},{"startTime":5082.177,"endTime":5085.18,"body":"you know, Maggie Smith's good, but"},{"startTime":5085.213,"endTime":5087.582,"body":"she already had an Oscar,"},{"startTime":5085.213,"endTime":5087.582,"body":"and I don't think she did another one."},{"startTime":5087.582,"endTime":5088.116,"body":"I don't know."},{"startTime":5088.116,"endTime":5090.552,"body":"I don't know how much Meryl was kind of"},{"startTime":5088.116,"endTime":5090.552,"body":"in the running here."},{"startTime":5090.552,"endTime":5092.353,"body":"Who else was who else was in that night?"},{"startTime":5092.353,"endTime":5094.956,"body":"I don't know where we have it"},{"startTime":5092.353,"endTime":5094.956,"body":"up. Dyan Cannon."},{"startTime":5094.956,"endTime":5097.926,"body":"Heaven can Wait. Penelope Milford Coming"},{"startTime":5094.956,"endTime":5097.926,"body":"Home."},{"startTime":5097.926,"endTime":5101.863,"body":"Maureen Stapleton in Interiors"},{"startTime":5097.926,"endTime":5101.863,"body":"that actually, like, get my vote."},{"startTime":5101.863,"endTime":5102.564,"body":"She's so good"},{"startTime":5102.564,"endTime":5106.067,"body":"that Meryl Streep in The Deer Hunter"},{"startTime":5102.564,"endTime":5106.067,"body":"Maggie Smith wins for California."},{"startTime":5106.067,"endTime":5108.803,"body":"Sweet Meryl's Great in the Deer Hunter."},{"startTime":5106.067,"endTime":5108.803,"body":"That's what we need."},{"startTime":5108.803,"endTime":5109.671,"body":"She is great."},{"startTime":5109.671,"endTime":5112.54,"body":"Best original screenplay"},{"startTime":5109.671,"endTime":5112.54,"body":"that Lost to Coming Home Again."},{"startTime":5112.54,"endTime":5115.477,"body":"Those are kind of neck and neck."},{"startTime":5112.54,"endTime":5115.477,"body":"You know, it's hard to argue against it."},{"startTime":5115.477,"endTime":5116.711,"body":"Best cinematography."},{"startTime":5116.711,"endTime":5120.014,"body":"Okay, I was pissed off rewatching"},{"startTime":5116.711,"endTime":5120.014,"body":"The Deer Hunter that it didn't win this,"},{"startTime":5120.281,"endTime":5123.251,"body":"so I'm going to read you the nominees"},{"startTime":5120.281,"endTime":5123.251,"body":"and then you'll see why."},{"startTime":5123.251,"endTime":5126.654,"body":"Once I found out who won,"},{"startTime":5123.251,"endTime":5126.654,"body":"I was no longer pissed off."},{"startTime":5126.955,"endTime":5131.693,"body":"The Deer Hunter was nominated against"},{"startTime":5126.955,"endTime":5131.693,"body":"Heaven Can Wait Same time next year,"},{"startTime":5131.926,"endTime":5135.263,"body":"The Wiz and it lost two days of Heaven."},{"startTime":5135.73,"endTime":5137.398,"body":"Oh, wow. 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That's fair."},{"startTime":5145.14,"endTime":5148.81,"body":"As we wrap up,"},{"startTime":5145.14,"endTime":5148.81,"body":"I did want to touch briefly on Michael"},{"startTime":5148.81,"endTime":5152.013,"body":"Cimino's career the rest of his career,"},{"startTime":5148.81,"endTime":5152.013,"body":"because he had a career."},{"startTime":5152.046,"endTime":5155.116,"body":"I mean, it's one of the craziest stories"},{"startTime":5152.046,"endTime":5155.116,"body":"in all of Hollywood."},{"startTime":5155.116,"endTime":5159.32,"body":"Like Makes The Deer Hunter"},{"startTime":5155.116,"endTime":5159.32,"body":"wasn't an easy film for him to make."},{"startTime":5159.32,"endTime":5159.721,"body":"It wasn't."},{"startTime":5159.721,"endTime":5164.192,"body":"He's a perfectionist"},{"startTime":5159.721,"endTime":5164.192,"body":"and fought a lot of battles"},{"startTime":5164.192,"endTime":5168.163,"body":"with the studios, with the financiers,"},{"startTime":5164.192,"endTime":5168.163,"body":"and they basically all agreed."},{"startTime":5168.163,"endTime":5171.366,"body":"At some point,"},{"startTime":5168.163,"endTime":5171.366,"body":"let's just give this guy what he wants."},{"startTime":5171.366,"endTime":5174.135,"body":"Let's let it be 3 hours."},{"startTime":5171.366,"endTime":5174.135,"body":"They didn't want it to be 3 hours."},{"startTime":5174.135,"endTime":5177.772,"body":"They certainly didn't want the opening"},{"startTime":5174.135,"endTime":5177.772,"body":"scene to be 53 minutes of the wedding."},{"startTime":5177.772,"endTime":5181.809,"body":"And then they just go, let's just do it,"},{"startTime":5177.772,"endTime":5181.809,"body":"because basically this movie bombs"},{"startTime":5181.809,"endTime":5184.712,"body":"and it sucks. 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