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This."},{"startTime":5468.125,"endTime":5468.5,"body":"What?"},{"startTime":5468.5,"endTime":5470.375,"body":"Do I agree with all of this?"},{"startTime":5470.375,"endTime":5471.875,"body":"I don't think that matters."},{"startTime":5471.875,"endTime":5473.375,"body":"I would never make a movie this way."},{"startTime":5473.375,"endTime":5473.791,"body":"I wouldn't."},{"startTime":5473.791,"endTime":5476.583,"body":"Yeah, but it makes me appreciate him"},{"startTime":5473.791,"endTime":5476.583,"body":"so much more."},{"startTime":5476.583,"endTime":5481.208,"body":"He is virtually and, literally the only"},{"startTime":5476.583,"endTime":5481.208,"body":"person I know making movies this way."},{"startTime":5481.208,"endTime":5482.25,"body":"The only one."},{"startTime":5482.25,"endTime":5483.583,"body":"And keep doing it. Please."},{"startTime":5483.583,"endTime":5486.291,"body":"For the love of God, don't stop."},{"startTime":5483.583,"endTime":5486.291,"body":"I absolutely love it."},{"startTime":5486.291,"endTime":5487.583,"body":"It is a level of obsession."},{"startTime":5487.583,"endTime":5489.666,"body":"I've never heard of from anyone."},{"startTime":5489.666,"endTime":5491.916,"body":"My brain is just mush right now."},{"startTime":5491.916,"endTime":5493.625,"body":"Can you imagine that?"},{"startTime":5493.625,"endTime":5496.416,"body":"I could do the audio for that."},{"startTime":5493.625,"endTime":5496.416,"body":"I could like ADR. Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":5496.416,"endTime":5496.875,"body":"Slipping in."},{"startTime":5496.875,"endTime":5498.708,"body":"And actually,"},{"startTime":5496.875,"endTime":5498.708,"body":"I had to do that on a few lines"},{"startTime":5498.708,"endTime":5502.208,"body":"because like a mike rubs against clothes,"},{"startTime":5498.708,"endTime":5502.208,"body":"so like, you can't hear it."},{"startTime":5502.208,"endTime":5506.375,"body":"Sometimes you have to do that stuff,"},{"startTime":5502.208,"endTime":5506.375,"body":"but to do it constantly with each sentence"},{"startTime":5506.375,"endTime":5510.375,"body":"cannot fathom, cannot fathom each"},{"startTime":5506.375,"endTime":5510.375,"body":"how long it takes each sentence."},{"startTime":5510.541,"endTime":5514.333,"body":"Oh, you go look at that, then break down"},{"startTime":5510.541,"endTime":5514.333,"body":"the editing of that social network."},{"startTime":5514.416,"endTime":5515.791,"body":"It wasn't even the editing."},{"startTime":5514.416,"endTime":5515.791,"body":"It was the sound"},{"startTime":5515.791,"endTime":5519.875,"body":"mixing of them in that club"},{"startTime":5515.791,"endTime":5519.875,"body":"so much thought goes into this stuff."},{"startTime":5520.083,"endTime":5521.708,"body":"This is not,"},{"startTime":5520.083,"endTime":5521.708,"body":"Oh, yeah, put your camera here."},{"startTime":5521.708,"endTime":5522.75,"body":"Let's do it. Oh, yeah."},{"startTime":5522.75,"endTime":5524.791,"body":"You know,"},{"startTime":5522.75,"endTime":5524.791,"body":"give it to me when you have a chance."},{"startTime":5524.791,"endTime":5528.333,"body":"When I look at it and I look at Fincher"},{"startTime":5524.791,"endTime":5528.333,"body":"making a movie, I'm like, Oh,"},{"startTime":5528.541,"endTime":5529.916,"body":"this is a fucking job."},{"startTime":5529.916,"endTime":5531.458,"body":"This is this guy's job."},{"startTime":5531.458,"endTime":5533.0,"body":"This is this guy's livelihood."},{"startTime":5533.0,"endTime":5537.25,"body":"We consume it as entertainment,"},{"startTime":5533.0,"endTime":5537.25,"body":"but this is this man's career."},{"startTime":5537.375,"endTime":5542.791,"body":"And he is very,"},{"startTime":5537.375,"endTime":5542.791,"body":"very dedicated to it to an absurd degree."},{"startTime":5542.791,"endTime":5544.875,"body":"But, you know,"},{"startTime":5542.791,"endTime":5544.875,"body":"that's what he says. 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Did she like it?"},{"startTime":7293.25,"endTime":7295.583,"body":"I did not know. 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oh,"},{"startTime":7434.416,"endTime":7436.708,"body":"he pushed her."},{"startTime":7436.708,"endTime":7438.583,"body":"Like I mean, I don't really like him"},{"startTime":7436.708,"endTime":7438.583,"body":"that much."},{"startTime":7438.583,"endTime":7439.875,"body":"He's kind of an idiot."},{"startTime":7439.875,"endTime":7444.375,"body":"As soon as that fucking Coogle"},{"startTime":7439.875,"endTime":7444.375,"body":"montage starts, the phone went away."},{"startTime":7444.625,"endTime":7446.208,"body":"And that's an hour end of the movie."},{"startTime":7446.208,"endTime":7449.583,"body":"So there's 90 minutes left and she did not"},{"startTime":7446.208,"endTime":7449.583,"body":"look at her phone ever again."},{"startTime":7449.583,"endTime":7454.083,"body":"And she goes, Oh, I thought this was like"},{"startTime":7449.583,"endTime":7454.083,"body":"some true crime thing."},{"startTime":7454.083,"endTime":7455.666,"body":"And I go, Yeah, so did 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Yep."},{"startTime":8462.666,"endTime":8464.375,"body":"All right, Benji,"},{"startTime":8462.666,"endTime":8464.375,"body":"That's Benjamin Button number ten."},{"startTime":8464.375,"endTime":8467.375,"body":"Number nine,"},{"startTime":8464.375,"endTime":8467.375,"body":"The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo."},{"startTime":8467.375,"endTime":8468.875,"body":"Oh, we're different here."},{"startTime":8468.875,"endTime":8469.916,"body":"We're very different, girl."},{"startTime":8469.916,"endTime":8472.916,"body":"Different here. Okay. 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We have."},{"startTime":8578.833,"endTime":8582.25,"body":"Yeah, we're going to be we still have"},{"startTime":8578.833,"endTime":8582.25,"body":"our top fives are going to be pretty,"},{"startTime":8582.25,"endTime":8583.375,"body":"pretty similar."},{"startTime":8583.375,"endTime":8585.958,"body":"Number five for you. Number"},{"startTime":8583.375,"endTime":8585.958,"body":"five for me is club."},{"startTime":8585.958,"endTime":8587.291,"body":"Okay? It is in the top five."},{"startTime":8587.291,"endTime":8589.75,"body":"Yeah. 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Girl."},{"startTime":8629.583,"endTime":8630.958,"body":"Wait a minute."},{"startTime":8630.958,"endTime":8633.0,"body":"I skipped my number five like an asshole."},{"startTime":8633.0,"endTime":8634.208,"body":"I was like, How did I just get ahead?"},{"startTime":8634.208,"endTime":8636.666,"body":"Oh, God damn it."},{"startTime":8636.666,"endTime":8638.583,"body":"I'm leaving it in the Air Force it up."},{"startTime":8638.583,"endTime":8640.208,"body":"I fucked it all up."},{"startTime":8640.208,"endTime":8643.541,"body":"Number"},{"startTime":8640.208,"endTime":8643.541,"body":"five for me is God, girl Oh, my God."},{"startTime":8643.625,"endTime":8644.166,"body":"Love, God."},{"startTime":8644.166,"endTime":8645.333,"body":"Girl, Love God, girl."},{"startTime":8645.333,"endTime":8647.375,"body":"Okay, Number five for me is God."},{"startTime":8647.375,"endTime":8650.583,"body":"Girl that we go to your number four,"},{"startTime":8647.375,"endTime":8650.583,"body":"which is gone."},{"startTime":8650.583,"endTime":8652.75,"body":"Girl God, Girl"},{"startTime":8652.75,"endTime":8654.958,"body":"yes, yes. 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Immigrant Song."},{"startTime":8814.666,"endTime":8816.625,"body":"Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin."},{"startTime":8816.625,"endTime":8820.333,"body":"So Good"},{"startTime":8816.625,"endTime":8820.333,"body":"And Then Gone Girl is very different."},{"startTime":8820.375,"endTime":8822.666,"body":"Oh, sharp cuts across the neighborhood."},{"startTime":8822.666,"endTime":8823.541,"body":"Yes. Okay."},{"startTime":8823.541,"endTime":8826.0,"body":"You're really"},{"startTime":8823.541,"endTime":8826.0,"body":"you're kind of setting a story here."},{"startTime":8826.0,"endTime":8829.625,"body":"Mank is an old school scroll"},{"startTime":8826.0,"endTime":8829.625,"body":"that I just really, really love."},{"startTime":8829.666,"endTime":8831.291,"body":"Yeah. Favorite title sequence."},{"startTime":8831.291,"endTime":8833.291,"body":"I'll do my first because I think it might."},{"startTime":8833.291,"endTime":8835.958,"body":"It sounds like it's going to surprise you."},{"startTime":8833.291,"endTime":8835.958,"body":"Oh, you want to go first right here."},{"startTime":8835.958,"endTime":8838.208,"body":"Oh, go for no,"},{"startTime":8835.958,"endTime":8838.208,"body":"no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."},{"startTime":8838.208,"endTime":8839.791,"body":"For the first time ever, ever."},{"startTime":8839.791,"endTime":8841.5,"body":"You take the brunt of this."},{"startTime":8841.5,"endTime":8843.333,"body":"My favorite title sequence. No bullshit."},{"startTime":8843.333,"endTime":8844.25,"body":"It's Panic Room."},{"startTime":8844.25,"endTime":8847.125,"body":"I love that. 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Great."},{"startTime":8869.875,"endTime":8872.416,"body":"For me, it has to be seven. Yes."},{"startTime":8872.416,"endTime":8874.666,"body":"I mean, that's such a close second cut."},{"startTime":8874.666,"endTime":8877.666,"body":"I love it. 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Yeah, exactly."},{"startTime":8901.041,"endTime":8901.833,"body":"He's like, Go do."},{"startTime":8901.833,"endTime":8904.625,"body":"I'm going to go do it. Yeah. Three"},{"startTime":8901.833,"endTime":8904.625,"body":"minute music video. Surprise, surprise."},{"startTime":8904.625,"endTime":8907.208,"body":"It works All, right? Best editing."},{"startTime":8907.208,"endTime":8909.541,"body":"Pick any David Fincher movie. Here we go."},{"startTime":8909.541,"endTime":8910.291,"body":"Go for it."},{"startTime":8910.291,"endTime":8913.083,"body":"It it's seven seven. Best editing for me."},{"startTime":8913.083,"endTime":8915.916,"body":"I love it. 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Same here, same here."},{"startTime":8957.75,"endTime":8961.625,"body":"Was listening to it yesterday"},{"startTime":8957.75,"endTime":8961.625,"body":"as I did some notes for this thing"},{"startTime":8961.625,"endTime":8963.583,"body":"just still hits What a great Oscar."},{"startTime":8963.583,"endTime":8966.5,"body":"And that was the one the Oscars were like,"},{"startTime":8963.583,"endTime":8966.5,"body":"Oh shit, we can't ignore this"},{"startTime":8966.5,"endTime":8969.666,"body":"because they refuse to nominate"},{"startTime":8966.5,"endTime":8969.666,"body":"Jonny Greenwood for There Will Be Blood."},{"startTime":8969.666,"endTime":8970.416,"body":"Like they"},{"startTime":8970.416,"endTime":8975.208,"body":"they were not a fan of these rockers"},{"startTime":8970.416,"endTime":8975.208,"body":"coming in and taking these nominations."},{"startTime":8975.208,"endTime":8976.791,"body":"They weren't."},{"startTime":8975.208,"endTime":8976.791,"body":"They were like, pissed by it."},{"startTime":8976.791,"endTime":8979.125,"body":"And then with this one"},{"startTime":8976.791,"endTime":8979.125,"body":"they go, Yeah, you can't."},{"startTime":8979.125,"endTime":8980.125,"body":"You can't turn your back."},{"startTime":8980.125,"endTime":8983.041,"body":"Can't ignore that. 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Mara's like,"},{"startTime":9178.041,"endTime":9179.541,"body":"I want you to do best actor first."},{"startTime":9179.541,"endTime":9181.833,"body":"I'm really curious"},{"startTime":9179.541,"endTime":9181.833,"body":"to hear what you're going to say."},{"startTime":9181.833,"endTime":9184.375,"body":"Oh, God, my glasses."},{"startTime":9184.375,"endTime":9185.125,"body":"But no, I just."},{"startTime":9185.125,"endTime":9186.958,"body":"I do want to say"},{"startTime":9185.125,"endTime":9186.958,"body":"I want to double back and wait."},{"startTime":9186.958,"endTime":9187.916,"body":"Oh, yes, yes, yes."},{"startTime":9187.916,"endTime":9192.958,"body":"Earlier is that I think Rooney"},{"startTime":9187.916,"endTime":9192.958,"body":"Mara is the the iconic David Fincher"},{"startTime":9192.958,"endTime":9196.583,"body":"acting performance of anything male"},{"startTime":9192.958,"endTime":9196.583,"body":"or female, Male or female."},{"startTime":9196.583,"endTime":9198.291,"body":"That's yeah, that's a great statement."},{"startTime":9198.291,"endTime":9200.125,"body":"I probably would agree."},{"startTime":9200.125,"endTime":9204.5,"body":"Yeah, she really does Best actor"},{"startTime":9200.125,"endTime":9204.5,"body":"I've thought a lot about."},{"startTime":9204.5,"endTime":9209.708,"body":"So by and I stand by what I'm going to say"},{"startTime":9204.5,"endTime":9209.708,"body":"I stand fucking by"},{"startTime":9209.75,"endTime":9214.625,"body":"my actor in a David Fincher"},{"startTime":9209.75,"endTime":9214.625,"body":"performance is Ben Affleck from Gone Girl."},{"startTime":9214.625,"endTime":9217.0,"body":"Oh, I like it. I like it."},{"startTime":9214.625,"endTime":9217.0,"body":"I could support that."},{"startTime":9217.0,"endTime":9219.583,"body":"I could support that. 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Yes."},{"startTime":9243.375,"endTime":9245.75,"body":"Yes. Social network I was"},{"startTime":9243.375,"endTime":9245.75,"body":"I was going to go for. Yeah."},{"startTime":9245.75,"endTime":9249.75,"body":"No I'm glad it's the same It's like"},{"startTime":9245.75,"endTime":9249.75,"body":"sometimes it's just it's not obvious."},{"startTime":9249.75,"endTime":9254.0,"body":"It's like, come on, this is this movie"},{"startTime":9249.75,"endTime":9254.0,"body":"is kind of a it's a love letter to it."},{"startTime":9254.0,"endTime":9255.833,"body":"Screenplay."},{"startTime":9254.0,"endTime":9255.833,"body":"The screenplay is the star that."},{"startTime":9255.833,"endTime":9257.791,"body":"Yeah, I think I really do. It is."},{"startTime":9257.791,"endTime":9260.041,"body":"Yeah, That's actually 100 accurate. 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Fair. Fair."},{"startTime":9306.833,"endTime":9309.083,"body":"So we are very blessed."},{"startTime":9306.833,"endTime":9309.083,"body":"That was your second."},{"startTime":9309.083,"endTime":9311.5,"body":"Yeah. 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So that's my"},{"startTime":9695.708,"endTime":9698.125,"body":"What are you watching?"},{"startTime":9698.125,"endTime":9700.291,"body":"Good. Have a lot more to say next episode."},{"startTime":9700.291,"endTime":9704.375,"body":"But Neil, you just inspired me"},{"startTime":9700.291,"endTime":9704.375,"body":"to do something because."},{"startTime":9704.458,"endTime":9707.208,"body":"You have you have pitched"},{"startTime":9707.208,"endTime":9710.708,"body":"Jean-Pierre"},{"startTime":9707.208,"endTime":9710.708,"body":"Melville to me a long time ago."},{"startTime":9710.791,"endTime":9715.625,"body":"Would you recommend that I watch"},{"startTime":9710.791,"endTime":9715.625,"body":"the Samurai before I see the killer?"},{"startTime":9715.625,"endTime":9716.916,"body":"Yeah, absolutely."},{"startTime":9716.916,"endTime":9719.375,"body":"If you have enough time."},{"startTime":9716.916,"endTime":9719.375,"body":"It is not a remake or anything."},{"startTime":9719.375,"endTime":9720.791,"body":"It just it lives in that world."},{"startTime":9720.791,"endTime":9724.708,"body":"The people I found 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Do anything."},{"startTime":9811.166,"endTime":9815.833,"body":"But it's one that again, I was only saying"},{"startTime":9811.166,"endTime":9815.833,"body":"the only reason I was bummed watching"},{"startTime":9815.833,"endTime":9818.333,"body":"it is because I went number one,"},{"startTime":9815.833,"endTime":9818.333,"body":"no one's going to see this in the theater."},{"startTime":9818.333,"endTime":9821.208,"body":"They're going to wait till Netflix and"},{"startTime":9821.291,"endTime":9822.666,"body":"we're"},{"startTime":9821.291,"endTime":9822.666,"body":"going to talk about it on that episode."},{"startTime":9822.666,"endTime":9825.0,"body":"There's so many reasons"},{"startTime":9822.666,"endTime":9825.0,"body":"to see this in the theater."},{"startTime":9825.0,"endTime":9826.958,"body":"And then I doubt"},{"startTime":9825.0,"endTime":9826.958,"body":"this gets the physical media,"},{"startTime":9826.958,"endTime":9829.083,"body":"and that sucks"},{"startTime":9826.958,"endTime":9829.083,"body":"because I want to know how he did this"},{"startTime":9829.083,"endTime":9830.666,"body":"because he makes it look so easy."},{"startTime":9830.666,"endTime":9832.416,"body":"The movie"},{"startTime":9830.666,"endTime":9832.416,"body":"looks like it was so easy to make,"},{"startTime":9832.416,"endTime":9833.916,"body":"and I'm reading an interview with him"},{"startTime":9833.916,"endTime":9835.541,"body":"and they're like,"},{"startTime":9833.916,"endTime":9835.541,"body":"So do you still do the thing?"},{"startTime":9835.541,"endTime":9838.25,"body":"Where you get to do like, takes is like,"},{"startTime":9835.541,"endTime":9838.25,"body":"Oh yeah, Fassbinder did 100 takes that."},{"startTime":9838.25,"endTime":9840.375,"body":"Yeah, It's just I don't know how to do it"},{"startTime":9838.25,"endTime":9840.375,"body":"in the other way."},{"startTime":9840.375,"endTime":9841.166,"body":"That's the way I do it."},{"startTime":9841.166,"endTime":9844.0,"body":"And they know what they're getting"},{"startTime":9841.166,"endTime":9844.0,"body":"themselves into and that's what we do."},{"startTime":9844.0,"endTime":9846.083,"body":"I'm there to have them act, not hurt."},{"startTime":9846.083,"endTime":9847.791,"body":"I'm not there to have them"},{"startTime":9846.083,"endTime":9847.791,"body":"sit in their trailers."},{"startTime":9847.791,"endTime":9849.916,"body":"They're there to act. Amen."},{"startTime":9849.916,"endTime":9851.458,"body":"And they'll see the killer, if you can."},{"startTime":9851.458,"endTime":9853.125,"body":"And then join us on the next pod."},{"startTime":9853.125,"endTime":9854.666,"body":"I'm so glad we agreed on so much."},{"startTime":9854.666,"endTime":9858.75,"body":"FINCHER Listeners, let us know"},{"startTime":9854.666,"endTime":9858.75,"body":"what you think of Fincher on Letterboxd,"},{"startTime":9858.791,"endTime":9864.291,"body":"on Instagram, on old Twitter"},{"startTime":9858.791,"endTime":9864.291,"body":"at W AIW Underscore podcast."},{"startTime":9864.291,"endTime":9871.625,"body":"But as always, thank you for"},{"startTime":9864.291,"endTime":9871.625,"body":"listening and happy watching."},{"startTime":9871.708,"endTime":9876.708,"body":"You met me in a very strange time"},{"startTime":9876.791,"endTime":9878.458,"body":"when you've been all year."},{"startTime":9878.458,"endTime":9880.041,"body":"Okay. Hey everyone."},{"startTime":9880.041,"endTime":9881.458,"body":"Thanks again for listening."},{"startTime":9881.458,"endTime":9886.208,"body":"You can watch my films and read my movie"},{"startTime":9881.458,"endTime":9886.208,"body":"blog at Alex Withrow dot com."},{"startTime":9886.25,"endTime":9889.916,"body":"Nicholas Dose Dotcom is where you can find"},{"startTime":9886.25,"endTime":9889.916,"body":"all of Nick's film work."},{"startTime":9890.0,"endTime":9895.833,"body":"Send us mailbag questions at"},{"startTime":9890.0,"endTime":9895.833,"body":"What Are You Watching Podcast at gmail.com"},{"startTime":9896.0,"endTime":9899.875,"body":"or find us on Twitter, Instagram and box"},{"startTime":9899.875,"endTime":9905.875,"body":"at w aiw underscore podcast"},{"startTime":9899.875,"endTime":9905.875,"body":"next is all about David"},{"startTime":9905.875,"endTime":9910.333,"body":"Fincher's The Killer,"},{"startTime":9905.875,"endTime":9910.333,"body":"which is David Fincher at his most."},{"startTime":9910.416,"endTime":9911.791,"body":"David Fincher."},{"startTime":9911.791,"endTime":9913.375,"body":"It's in theaters now."},{"startTime":9913.375,"endTime":9915.833,"body":"It'll be on Netflix November 10th."},{"startTime":9915.833,"endTime":9918.333,"body":"I loved this movie."},{"startTime":9918.333,"endTime":9923.916,"body":"Stay tuned"},{"startTime":9924.0,"endTime":9927.125,"body":"Many later and."}]}