127: The Thin Red Line (1998) Commentary

“What is this war in the heart of nature?” Watch Terrence Malick’s “The Thin Red Line” with Alex and Nick as they discuss the film’s huge cast, all-timer cinematography, ceaseless voiceover, James Jones’ book, the Japanese perspective, Nick Nolte vs. Elias Koteas, how Adrien Brody got screwed over, war as hell, Catalina Island, and so much more.
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Hey, everyone. Welcome to. What are you watching? I'm Alex Withrow and Nick is here. I promise he's here. Just not on this intro. The Oppenheimer solo commentary. Thank you all for your responses on that. I didn't expect that it you know, it did really well. And a lot of people, hey, I just really appreciate it. A lot of you reached out to me. I was extremely nervous to do that. Just crushed one of those damn Celsius tricks. Hit record. And then it was three hours later. Those things do not fuck around. My God, the thin red line today this is. We had a lot of fun doing this. You know, when it's a really serious movie. Is a commentary good to go. Well but it it worked out very well. We were we recorded this directly after we finished the Malick episode. So we just kept on going. Please enjoy this. We have a lot of fun talking about the thin Red line. this is a movie I've been obsessed with since forever, so I have a lot of just thrown a lot of trivia out there. Then Nick goes on his Jags and does his thing, which is always welcome and appreciated. No, seriously, we both love this movie. It is nearly almost our shared favorite Malick film. It is my favorite Malick film. When you hear the beep. That is when I hit play on the movie in three, two, one. Get yourself comfy. Yeah, I really likes touching. No centered Dan and an attendant. This is the first we've never recorded a commentary directly after doing a director's episode. It's never been done. Yeah, we just recorded the Malick podcast. Took like a little break. We both got hammered, and now we're doing the thin Red line. That's a joke wasted. This is going to be a lot of fun. Is it? I love this movie. Yes, it's a very, very serious movie. I'm aware. I know all of that. It's very serious. It may be, may seem like a somewhat odd choice to do a commentary, but I have, you know, thoughts. I have a lot to say, and we both love it. It's true. So let's jump in there. I mean, God, there's just so much to talk about. This is first movie back after 20 years of an absence. It's like it's just absolutely wild where to even begin with it, because there's so much to say as we go. I guess a good place to begin is that I did read the book in preparation for this. I do read it in a very odd way, because I wasn't gonna have time to read it, like actually read read. So I and there's not an audiobook available. So I bought it, on tape, cassette on tape. That was fun. Here we go. Just emerging into the water. What a great tone. Oh my God, what a great tone we're setting. Hans Zimmer is credited for doing the score. This is like an Avro part. song. But yeah, it just it plays so well, really getting ready to immerse us into this very unique tone for a war film. It's like, all right, what are we about to get into here? So what was your experience with the book? The book was I've always wanted to read. It's very long, and I was listening to it. And then as what was funny is that as I was listening to it, I basically downloaded it on my phone, like the real book. So sometimes I would follow along and get it. It was great. It just opened it up for me. It really showed how he, in terms of like the actual story, he did stick really close to it. Like a lot of the characters, the beats are the same. A lot of the dialog is the same. The nature is what he brought to it. You know, what is this war in the heart of nature? That's what he brought to the movie. And then the opening line constant. Yep. It is this constant juxtaposition. Do you use your favorite word about this insane war started by men? Yeah, and we're amongst nature and like, why is this happening? What's going on? it's just great. Now, this stuff is fascinating because, you know, when you make a movie this big, you have multiple units, right? So Terrence Malick is in charge of the first unit, the main unit where you're filming all your principal actors and all the battle stuff. That's what they're doing. So a second unit went out to film all this stuff on the island with Jim Caviezel. That was just the second unit. This the second unit shoot. Yeah. everything on this island is second unit. So even with Jim. Yes. Oh, yes. Wow. Yes. So Terrence Malick was not on set for this stuff. He was not. He was not here. He's not directing at second unit stuff. So Malick does not like to watch dailies, which is the footage you shot from that day? Yeah. He doesn't like to watch it back because he was there on the day, so it just it doesn't. It's just not something he like to do. So because he was not there, he decided to watch these dailies because he wasn't here. So he has to see what they're getting. Yeah. And he essentially fell in love with this performance with Jim Caviezel. His performance as whit, he falls in love with it, which is Caviezel is not playing it like he is in the book, that there's a clear difference here. What's he's a smoker, he's a drinker. He's a little he's a little brash. He does go AWOL, but it's a very different. It's a very different vibe and temperament. And I think Malick just fell in love with what he was doing. And that's why we open with this. That's why he essentially shifts. The entire focus of the film took Wiesel's character, which was not the plan, the main character. This movie was Corporal Life, Adrien Brody. Oh, yeah. Let's get into it. Let's just do it. I didn't know when to do it. We do it now. We should just start, get it out of the way. Okay? And because it's one of the big saying, I mean, I just can't imagine as what Adrien Brody must have went through. Yeah. So he's he's the star of the movie. He's five. Is the star of the script. He's in the book a lot. He's, five is a guy who acts really tough but then is an absolute coward. So his inner monologue in the book is just he's a coward. I don't know what they shot with him. I don't know, it's there are some deleted scenes on the criterion DVD. He's like in one, but he doesn't, you know, speak. The first cut of this movie was six hours long, so he had to be in it more. But in cutting it down, he clearly made the decision to focus more on weight here as opposed to five. And in that Adrien Brody just gets almost completely cut out. I mean, his starring role is reduced to 1 or 2 speaking lines. Yeah, he is not informed of this. He goes to the premiere, takes his mother. And that is just devastating to think about that he's sitting there and like, wait, what? Thinking what is going on in the new Terrence Malick? And you just you're like, seen in the background a few times. Yeah. It's. Yeah. So that did happen. And it was a I knew this story before this movie even came out. It was a huge deal in the press, a huge deal. That actress is actually, the mother. Whit's mother is Penelope Allen. She's the blond haired bank teller. And dog day. Afternoon. Oh. No way. Yeah, yeah, I love this. If you listen carefully, you can hear heartbeat. Beautiful. Oh, yeah. Was like killers of the flower moon stuff. They're like, she's accepting her death and, like, going on that. I just love this. this movie's such a poem. It's just so lyrical. Oh my God. So, yeah, that's Adrien Brody stuff. And then he, you know, it is a big part of the press, I guess. Malick just never thought to, like, write a note or let him know, and that that's a that's really, like the last big instance we hear of someone complaining about being cut from a malick movie. Now you're just kind of like, I don't know, maybe cut, like, a minute, but I don't know, it might happen. I mean, a yeah, a phone call could have sufficed. Yeah. Phone call letter. Like I reshaped it this way. It would have been. It would have been nice. But we've talked about this on the podcast before. I do think that was 1998. I do think that helped Adrien Brody win an Oscar four years later. I think a lot of people, still had that on the brain and were, you know, a little felt bad for him. Yeah. And, you know, it's a great performance in The Pianist, but I do think that added something to it. Yeah. That pianist or pianist? I guess both. Pianist. Pianist, I don't know, once I hear something else. Well, I know that, but I think most people say it. Pianist. Actually. You think pianist is better? That's a good movie. That's a tough one to do. That's for Jesus. I was going to say that the next one. No, no, no, he's just so great at the way he embodies this. The floating around. No, he really is. And you don't really. We have no idea what's going on. We don't know what the deal is like. I thought I signed up for a war movie and it's like, you know, what is this? This was all improvised. He, did not. He knew it was being filmed, but Terry was like, just go talk to her for a little bit. She's not an actress. She's just. That's just her and that kid and go, you know, go talk to improvised stuff. And Caviezel didn't know that he was filming, and he's like, that's in the movie. Wow. Yeah. So the movie's filled with stuff like that, but this is not a big part of the novel. These this a while stuff with whit is I don't even know. I mean, he's definitely has gone a while, but we're not in his journey like this. You know, on these Malaysian islands, you can even just tell right here in this scene, like, he's such a gentle soul, like, just very kind features and presence about him. I love the way he plays this. I know he's a somewhat controversial figure now, but it's a great performance from him. It is. This movie is full of humane performances and just explosive. I hate the world thing. Yeah, that's just real. You know that like that, that cut. Like we were going in like a close up, like mode where she's really take him in, but then it just cuts to a big smile. Oh yeah. See, again, we talk about in that Malick episode where we have these cuts that, it's cutting on emotion. Not for continuity, just cut on emotion. Cut for the laugh. Yeah. This stuff is not this is just Caviezel in this other actor, Will Wallace just playing with the kids like this. Clearly. Malick. You know what I'm saying? Malick does not say, like, okay, now we're going to do the thing where you spend them around. It's just go out there and like, be. Yeah, just go. Yeah. Keep in mind, Malik's not even here. He's not. He's not even on set, like filming stuff. So, yeah, it's it's it's really something that this made. This is such a big part of the movie. Now, do you think that he's getting these dailies from here and then liking what he's seeing and then instructing the second unit do more of this night? I know that's what happened. Yeah. Like lean into it more, lean into it. And then when he got Caviezel on set for the first unit, then yeah, he's just focusing on him so much more and that's that. That is what Malik is going to do. He's going to see a bird and point the camera at the bird. He's going to connect more with one actor and make that the focus of his movie, or one of the focuses, and just becoming so invested in his chance and everything. just beautiful. Beautiful. Yeah. And loving these chants. And the music is just great. I it just this is such a different way to open a movie of this, of this kind really letting us into its pacing. We're not necessarily concerned with the battle and all that right up front. Oh, God. No, he's he's he's basically telling us to meet him at his level. and, and I know that was the controversy of this movie is that people were wanting a war movie and like, they'll they will get it, but this is about is anti that. Well it's like the anti Saving Private Ryan came out just a few months after that. And people wanted Saving Private Ryan too. And that is not what they got. And they got something much more lyrical and poetic I love that. And yeah seeing that ship is the first sign of okay. Yeah, we're definitely, you know, in a war movie. And, and I think, I think it's pretty clear to kind of assess for yourself what's happens right here. Like these two guys aren't where they should be. Yeah. And they don't want to be found. No. They're able on purpose. They don't know. Especially where it is not into this war. right. So hold that shot in your mind. I'm just going to tease that I have I have a fact that will, I believe, blow your mind coming up and you won't believe. But whatever. That shot for me, there, there is, I don't lighting. I know it's so great coming from the top. And I and I went into this on the Malik pod, but yeah, it was Penn who met up with Malik in the mid 90s and said, I'll be whatever you're doing next. I want to be involved. He came on board for to get paid scale, which is not a lot of money. And then, you know, I think encouraged a lot of Penn's doing it. I can do it like Sean's doing and I'll do it. And I think that motivate a lot of people to get involved. Like big I'm talking to big people. Oh yeah. The heavy hitters that we see in this movie, Sean Penn's in a lot, but the really, really big A-listers, the only way to get them like Travolta and stuff and Clooney, the only way to do that is that they had to express interest in being in the movie, so they would just bring them on for a day or so, because you can't. You couldn't. John Bolton 1998 is hot. He's like white hot. They couldn't pay him his rate. So you just pay him for scale per day and it works. You know, it makes sense that Sean Penn would want to be in a malick movie because had he been born in a different time, I could see him as any of the main leads in Badlands or Days of Heaven. Oh yeah. He could do the Martin Sheen in Badlands or Richard Gere. Well, that's a good point. Or the Sam Shepard, I mean, he could have done anything for those. So you kind of think that, you know, he's a smart actor, looking at some of those influences and seeing himself in those and being like, next time Elliot does a movie, because that's the only two the has to go on. Exactly. That's it. Those two must have meant so much to him that he's willing to drop everything to do this brand new, 20 years later Terrence Malick movie. Yeah. And you're not like, doing it in, you know, the back a lot of Hollywood. You're they're taking they shot a lot of it in in Australia. I mean, it's just crazy. They went to the actual place. That's a great line. Love twice man. You are. Oh and I love his reaction. Like yeah yeah look at that. I love the way he cosmic punk recruit. I can take anything. Yeah. They have a great, chemistry. You know, we get a few scenes with them. Oh, yeah. Back and forth and it's so great. Just the evolution of it. And we see, you know, it affects the Penn character for where we're where we're headed. This character was a lot different in the book. The Welsh guy, Penn's character, he really talks with a British accent, and is more crass and Penn only says, his property line wants no property. This whole darn things about property. But in the book, that's like his catchphrase. He says property, property all the time. So it really kind of seems like, based on everything that you're saying, that these actors really had a bit of freedom to kind of take from this, like whatever they really wanted to do. So there was probably like, no, hey, it's British, but you don't have to do an accent, right? Right. Who cares? I mean, yeah, yeah, I'd be married to that. Yeah. And if if Jim Caviezel was, you know, this drinking man hard kind of thing, but he's like, such the opposite. Like a polar opposite almost. That's, that's a lot of trust. Yeah. Fraud for a director to give to an actor when you have source material. Yes, yes I agree. And it's also a risk for the actor because what if you're doing something that is like the director is not correcting you on the day, but then you get into editing and he goes, I like this guy's doing more than that guy. So, oh, well, that's what. But that's one of the things that's so cool about this movie. When we break out the cast, like there are some people who are really good in this movie who've never been in a movie again. Oh, yeah. And then there's some people who were, you know, relatively small here and become big stars. And that's it's so cool that they did that. They're just mixing everyone up and everyone together. You know, something that we didn't do on our Malick episode that we should, have fun with here is, we should we should rank some of our. We don't have to rank them, but our favorite Malick performances. Yeah, man. That's tough. I, I think my top two are in this movie. Top two? Yeah. I think, what Elias Coté does as star in this is it's one of the most humane performances I've ever seen. I love him. And then McNulty as Colonel Tall and especially their work together, that is so explosive. This is a great year for Nolte. He was also in affliction I. Oh, yeah. So those two are just they're really, really right up there. I love them, but yeah, I mean oh man, it's tough. Look at that shot. I love that stare at the floor is Nick Nolte the go like yeller. Oh yeah yeah I know yeah. Because you believe not only can he yell but you believe this dude, like, kill you with his bare hands. So it was grab you and he was. I mean, he was peaked right here. He's so good. He really was Will Wallace right there. It's actually been in a few other Malick movies. He's in the New World. And then he plays an architect talking to Sean Penn in the beginning of Tree of Life. He's like talking about, oh, my, my wife did this or yeah, she might. Yeah. So he just pops up here and there. It's funny. how cool do that? It's like you, you know, have has a door open. Yeah. As long as you're cool just being on screen, you know, for like 20 seconds is fine. I mean, you must really kind of form certain relationships with actors along the way where you're like, all right, you do good in this world with me, I can bring you back for something because there really is like, you got Bale who's done a few. He's done the most too. Well. He he pops up in song, the song, doesn't he? I don't think so. You know, I feel like there must have been a deleted scene with him because he's credited. Yeah. Oh, well, then maybe he is, like, somewhere in the back. Oh, here, here's a guy, the highest ranked officer in the movie, Brigadier General Quinn Tard, played by John Travolta. Here, they can only get him for a day. Yeah. Now, if you have an A-list actor and you can only get for a day, but you're shooting in Australia, that's a lot to do if he's based in LA. Yeah. So what they did for this sequence and for that, you know, when we saw that sunset in the background. Yeah. Those mountains in the background I shit you not my friend. none other than Catalina Island off the coast of Southern California. Your favorite place. But isn't that crazy? It totally matches its, you know, look at this thing I'm looking at. Catalina. Oh, you just ruined this movie for me, oh, did I? This is a great sequence though. How we started with Nick Nolte, Colonel Tall, and you just sitting smoking. And that's where we're going to. That's the end of the sequence. And now we're seeing it replay. But we're going to end with that same shot. It's just great. And I love how, how quiet Nulty is here and how, you know, a bit of a bit of a brown noser. He's smiling. Yeah. He's lighting cigarets. He's doing. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Leaving in his voiceover you can hear his real intentions. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. You know, he's been passed over. He's pissed off. For reference. I don't like Catalina. So that's that. That's why I brought it up. Yeah. Yes. But I more so probably knows that I know, but I more so brought up because I think it's a cool fact. But yes, you have a sordid history of Catalina Island. Never going back. All right, I'll leave it there. That's train. That's private train. He is actually the voiceover that we hear in the beginning, middle and end of the movie. What is this war in the heart of nature? Oh, that is so interesting because this is not he's not a huge character of this movie. And then this guy just didn't work after this. Like, I don't know, he was in like an episode of air, I think. And then that was it. But a lot is put on him for this. I love Hunt Zimmer's music. Yeah. It's so like foreboding. Oh God. I just love I genuinely love the way Travolta plays this just he has a hit. Like, this is not a guy who's going to be right next to the battle. You know, he's just given orders. It's going to be hard for me to go in there and not just, yeah, nobody wants it. He's just giving him shit like you got to oblige too. On, And. Yeah, willing to put everyone's life at risk. And now. So now we just jump cut to the end. But we're going to go back in coming up at. Yeah. Really starting this kind of fluid structure if we can, you know, start scenes and mess them a little bit. This their movements were not, blocked or rehearsed at all. They were they had a few lines to say, but they the camera was just instructed to follow them around. Oh, so this is all them. Oh, so what you're saying is, it's like when he shows up with that voiceover. I worked my ass off. That's actually the end, correct? Oh, smoking. Cool. Him smoking and thinking is the end of this scene. So we started at the end and you will see it'll return around because they're about to, light their cigarets and then he'll go off to the side and just be thinking, yeah. So it's like a, it's like a reverse circle or like a crazy aid or something, you know, it's. Yeah, I love it. I know what you were talking. I'm like, what are you saying? This is exactly what I didn't like that. There I go sequence for you when I was trying to explain, like, I want to cut in and mess it all around. Yeah. And it's really subtle, but it's so. See, now they're lighting their cigarets. Yeah. And soon, shortly after they're lit, we will go back to that shot of him. But they actually did it like this. Like, oh, they filmed it like an order. Yeah, yeah. And then that's an editing thing. You just decided on editing where you're actually hearing him talking to you, telling you how he feels. So yeah, Quinton Roll told us go off there and boom, right now we're going to cut back to the shot we opened with multi on that. Yeah that's what we started with. Yeah. In this little sequence. Oh that's so cool. Yeah yeah. And you know what though I mean it even works if you didn't even kind of pick up on that. Yeah. But that is very very cool. That's the I noticed that. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the flow and that's Trent and talking to Sean Penn who again will come up now and again. But this is not a famous actor by any means. Oh point Penn playing it like what's your name kid. Cutting his fucking hair that I love I love all this mirrors. Yeah. Oh it's perfect. We're going to meet a lot of people for Charlie Company here very quickly. I'm not going to we're not going to talk about all of them because they're going to come up later. But we're going to start to. Yes. Oh, we're going to we're going to our name dropping. It's going to be it'll be name dropping. Harry. There he is. Cameo the star of the movie Noah's Place. Star of the movie. You know and knows place. I can we just give some love, though, because you and I are both giant fans of Adrian. I love a dream, I love it, I love him. I think he's so great in everything. He's yeah, I, I yeah, and I love We're here where his career is gone and how he can lean into, like the supporting stuff for Wes Anderson or something. Yeah I love him. I love him. There's John C Riley. Yes it is brushing his teeth. He'll speak in about two hours. It was Tim Blake Nielsen and Blake Nielsen got cast because Malik loved his voice and he was like, he just wanted to hear him talk. And that other guy, I know his name, Larry Romano, I that's not who I thought it was. That's Larry Romano. A lot of this stuff in this little area, this section like on the on the ship here, this dialog is directly from the book, like a brood on it tells brood on it that, yeah, it's all it's all in there. Here's to ash. Her first is ash Mihawk ash and actually like sneakily huge role. It's a very big role. He's the last person we see in the movie. Yeah, yeah. It's like his face wrestling all the way to give me that pistol. I love this guy. I do to his greatness. As someone who, you know, he hadn't been in a lot up in till this point and he just totally nails it. I love that certain people flipping out, you know, Brody was all scared on the bed. Well, that seems to be overall like the the the note that we get from him throughout the whole entire time that he's ever on camera is that he's scared. And that is a part of the book. He I think in the book he acts a little more brouhaha. But like I said, his inner monologue is very cowardly. So part of me thought when I put all this out, I was like, did did Malik just not want to like, stay focused on, like a cowardly character and just wanted to go more lyrical with like, wait, I don't know, who knows who knows? We will never know. We will never know. We will never know. Because that's probably something that he's even probably instructed people like, hey, we're not going to talk about, oh, of course, of course. Oh, this is great. So they're talking shit about their captain, and then we just get this boom, the shot of this. Yeah. And I think the implication is that he can hear it, but he's not going to do anything necessarily. And this is oh I love this guy. What's even more interesting is that he doesn't hear. And this is just what he's going on right now. Yeah. Because he's just observing. Because he's looking he's wearing a look of uncertainty and dread almost. And, either way, that could play very well. Yeah, certainly not this humane in the book. His name is Booger Stein. That's his real name, booger. And there's a little bit of, thinly veiled anti-Semitism in the book because he's Stein, so he's Jewish. And Malik made him Greek star. Rose. which I think he told us like the day before they started filming. I mean, I'm switching him from Stein to star, and he's like, okay, okay. But yeah, his looks, I mean, everything the way that he plays this, oh my God, he was a he'd been working a lot up until then. I mean, he'd been in movies for Coppola, gardens of Stone and trucker. or Tucker. Rather desperate hours for Michael Cimino, Atom Egoyan. He'd been in a lot of those, The Adjuster exotica, David Cronenberg's Crash, a psychopath, and fallen with Denzel. But then perhaps his most famous was Casey Jones. Casey Jones, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Ben Chaplin here. And like, playing Private Bell. exactly like his character in the book. Exactly. He's the most he's like, it's like a 1 to 1. He plays it exactly. Constantly thinking about his wife. But he he his inner monologue in the book, he, he kind of knows what's coming. He, Oh. So he assumes I bolded it. What is strange? I didn't even know this word existed. What was a book written in the 60s that he, He keeps referring to himself as a cuckold. Like he keeps saying that in the book. Like I know I'm a cuckold. I know what she's doing. How could she not be doing this? And then so then when he finally, you know, does get the letter at the end, it's like, boom. Oh, I'm so glad we don't get that. Oh my God, yeah. I don't I don't want him to know. I don't want it to lead that. I want him to be in this this, you know, this longing. I don't want him to be accepting that she could be dead. She could have moved on. Yeah. That is arguably one of my, if not my favorite scene of the movie. The Dear John letter is terrible. His, that's just one of the most honest moments I can recall watching, you know? And those were very common. Did you know that? And. Oh, yeah. Dear John letters. Yeah. Very common. Yeah. I mean, how could they not be? They met, they went off to war. These people, they're like 18. Yeah, 18. And you got a lady back home just she, still had to move on with her life, right? I mean, I get it, I get it all is fair in love and war. Well said. You like that I do. Never heard that before. Yeah, I think you come up with it a little. Let's put your helmet on. Oh, that's great. Yeah. You just feel fear. Like you feel the actual fear. Yeah. and that actress does a great job in Miranda Otto. Yeah. She's great. She she she feels like a woman of that time. Yeah, yeah. She was Eoin probably saying that wrong in Lord of the rings two and three. What lies Beneath? She was Tom Cruise's ex in the War of the worlds. from. Yeah, I live for the world. Yeah, she's a great actor, so, yeah, she's great. I love this. Gangway. Here he is. in real life, when they're making this movie, the wardrobes, the costumes didn't get washed. So you're just in it. And whatever you get on it is what you get on it. Can you imagine filming for this song? It must have, but that's, They're not washing their fatigues out there in war. It's true. Yeah, but I mean, come on. No, it's gonna be smelly. Oh my God. so the first time I saw this, I was just. Now I'm in Saving Private Ryan mode, and I'm like, oh, my God, when they land, this is going to be nuts. And it's not. Yeah, I love that. It's it's cool how it's shot. It's actually if you can see the water then they're in the boats. Obviously if you cannot see the water in any of these shots, they were literally shooting this just like on, like, just on land and rocking it back and forth, like rocking the boat back and forth because they said, like, Woody Harrelson was done filming and they're like, you know, be good to let's just get a thing where we pretend like he's on the boat. So they did that with a few people. They do these little cameos. Nick Stahl, John Savage, they get these cameos of like when it was the actor's last day, they would pretend like they were on the boat and just, like, rocking back and forth. So this is obviously all in the water, but we'll get a few shots where you don't see the water, and they just built like a fake boat, you know, on land. And that's what you got to do to make these movies I love it. Movie magic, movie magic. God, I was like, just so terrified the first time I saw it. Look how young he looks. So that's not on the water. That's. That's not on the water either. That's just him sitting there and they're moving it. John Savage, John Savage Harrison John Savage is amazing. And yes, he is fan. I love him. Man, this really is a 90s who's who. Oh my God. It's just everyone. They're all right here I love it. That is not look comfortable. Look at that. Getting sick. Oh God. Everyone just looks absolutely terrified. Yeah. This is when I realized officially, like we are not in Saving Private Ryan two. I don't know where this is headed, but to get off this beach and there's, like, no action going, look at him. Oh my God. for anyone who doesn't know who John savages, he is, in The Deer Hunter. Steve, Stevie has a great, few scenes and do the right thing. I was born in Brooklyn. He's a great actor. He's a fantastic actor. He's been around long time. Long time. Love him. And yeah, he's, you know, he's one of the older guys in this. So he brought that weight to it. And then to see that he's the one who like flips and switch gets flipped and he has the breakdown. You're like, oh my god. If this guy is it's so believable. So believe. And this, let's see, lives. But who's the other guy with the eyebrows? He's he was the guy in Mulholland Drive. I we get scared in the in the know. That's not him. I know he looks like. He looks just like. Yeah, I forget his name. No, no, that's not him. Are you talking about the guy directly to his left? No, no, he's on camera. No. Yeah, that's not him. I tried to write down everyone that, you know, has some recognition. Tried a little bit. And then. Yeah, like that guy Lieutenant Band who is just talking is Paul Gilson. He's not not a very, I guess, well known actor, but it's a big role in this movie. And apparently this is real. It's really happened because. So the author, James Jones, was he fought in this. He fought in this battle and fought in the war. So then he wrote a book based on his experience of it. And apparently this happened like they landed. You know, they're obviously not they didn't land on Japan. They landed on Guadalcanal. And that's where they're fighting Japan for the first time. This is a battle that lasted like six months. This battle, Guadalcanal, lasted forever. It was basically America's first time fighting hand-to-hand with the Japanese. But then these, natives would just be there and they would walk by and not really pay attention to anything and just be. I think that lends itself to the, that's the nature in the middle of this war. This dude's just like, what the hell is going on here? Why are you guys even here? And they're like, what? Like you? So he's. We don't have to pay attention to him, okay? Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what that is. Yeah. You can see everything. I mean, and you're wondering that to his audience, it's like, okay, there's just people walking by like, are we not supposed to do anything? Like what? Okay. We're walking. Yeah. So this was an extremely long battle in real life that. Yeah, went on for a lot. And a lot of casualties on each side. Certainly got these shots in nature. And then we're getting the music. This is one of the few movies where it really does rely on a score made for the movie. This is one of the few movies that Malick's made, rather, that relies on an original score as opposed to, you know, classical music, things like that. Yeah, and it's a great score. I write, too, I write it score all the time. Some of my favorites brush your teeth to it, brush my teeth to it. Favorite Zimmer. Favorite Zimmer is. It's my favorite. It's your favorite. Just personally yeah I've listened. Oh my god. If you could look at how many plays I've had on this. Wow. Lot of rotation. I've listened to it constantly. Constantly. As I think about my favorites, I know well, there's so many. There's so many pieces and there's some you forget he didn't. You're like, okay, did do True Romance sounds great. Done one Louise. Yeah. Tell me Louise. There you go, lion King. That's first and only Oscar. Until finally they gave him one for Dune. It's nominated him all the time. I think I mean, it's it's very obvious, but I mean, in their stellar I mean, that's. Yeah, that's that really is amazing. Of course. Of course. This is just the one that I've listened to the most. They're probably they're certainly bigger ones and more quote unquote impressive ones. I don't know, I just love what this one does. And this is a great, shot how we turn and they're all just going up this mountain. Like, just think of that like you to water. It's going to become a huge point of this movie and a little bit how they don't have water. So they're just fighting for their lives. No food, no water, huffing it constantly. All right, I wasn't shot, I was thinking of my bad shot. When they're all going up the hill, it's like this, one shot. It's just great. You're wrong. I was wrong, wrong. Number one. Well, I don't have, like, shot for shot memorized, but that guy that's been Chaplin, that's belts. Son of a bitch. That's a that's him with the wife. Yeah, yeah, I got yeah, we already talked about him, remember? Yeah. No, I know we talked about, but I, he looked like the guy that I'm thinking of. Yeah. Yeah. It's the helmet. Whenever he's in the helmet, they really set you up here. Like I did not see this coming at all. Kind of like it's a little like, obviously this is where it's going. I just, I get it is. Poor guy. Yeah. It's not used to being away from his wife. So he was an officer. And then they, he quit to be his wife and they demoted him, put him in infantry, made him a private. Now he's force in combat. Breaks my heart. It really does. And he survives the war. But does he survive? Life? Is life. His heart. I believe this is the shot I was referring to. I love that just the the one on star was there and then. Yeah, look at them. I mean, could you just imagine, like you just climb a hill? Hell no. And then you're like, do you know, like where you're going? Yeah. It's just more it just never ends. And at some point we're going to have to fight. Yeah, someone's going to get a big ass battle. how would you do in war? I'm not cut out for it. I would not there. Well, I don't have the sensibility for it. I'm man enough to to limit that. Yeah, there's there's no way I can't handle that level of human degradation. it's just not. It's not for me, but a hit man. Well, that's a different story. I mean, you're taking out bad people, and I know that. Yeah. I mean, man, people are like, what's what's your dream job? And I'm like, have you seen. You were never really here. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the one you go to now John Wick. No, no. Because you were never really here. He's killing well child predators. Yeah, yeah. The whole. Yeah. Get my ass arrested on this spot. No soldiering war, nothing but respect. I work very closely with the veteran community. Nothing but respect for them. and a lot of that respect comes from me knowing that I can never do this. It's just. It's not for me. yeah. This is brutal. And now you're getting your first taste of, like. Oh, this is what the other side is capable of. Wait till we get out of them, man. Yeah, that would shake you up. Yeah. You don't. I mean, you can't unsee this. Who's if you had to pick maybe, like, your favorite performance in this movie. In this movie? Yeah. Just in this one. I'm so partial to John Cusack. Just because I love him, I think he's a viable contender. But if I really had to, like, pick one just from this movie. It's it's it's probably Elias. Yeah. Yeah. He's so good. I mean, Cusack is great in this. He's really the only. He's the only soldier under Nolte who can get through to him. Yeah. Just with, like, looks and not really saying much at all. Well, what I like about it is just because of just being a fan of his. I've never actually seen him do anything quite like that. Right, right. He's he's always, you know, I believe him when he's in action roles. actionable roles like, you know, like the fight scene in Grosse Point Blank. I heard every second of that. But the assertive nature that he has as a commander, especially in that scene, because he's leading that charge and he's leading it to perfection. Yeah, he's very capable. And, and then, yeah, standing up to naughty, but still being respectful, a good guy. Yeah. You're he's still toeing the the military line. Yeah. Not overstepping. Yeah. It it's not a role that I, I expected to see him in when I saw it. And I wouldn't have expected at the time for him to pop up with a role like that. Like I could see him in this, in any really other type of, like, these roles. But to really have that one, it's just very cool to see. But yeah, it's kind of go to a less because that's just he, he carries the weight of what's going on in every moment when it starts happening. Yeah. And it feels really good. Caviezel is really good at this. He's really good. It's like kind of as us just watching everything. Like, what in the world is all this? And the way he'll just, you know, focus on like a leaf and smile. Well he's really our window to that, that nature. Right. So that's right. Stretcher bearer. Tough job. Probably the last job he would want to do. Someone is like kind spirited his way. But just look at these shots I mean they're God amazing John Toll was a cinematographer. This one two. One of the few people to win or maybe the only to win back to back best Cinematography Oscars. Note maybe Chivo did that too, but he would have been one of the first four legends of the fall and then Braveheart up to 9495. And then this is 98. Damn. He's great. He's on the commentary. He's one of the people on the criterion commentary for this. He's good. Yeah. And just the gentleness of him, you know, rubbing, putting water on his hair. Oh, very gentle. But yeah, Cusack is great. And it was, it was a bit of a pop in the theater, actually, because he was big at the time. He was a big actor at the time. And he comes in, it's like, I don't know, hour, hour and a half and you see his back first, and then he turns around and people in theater like, oh, that chunk exact. It was kind of cool like that. And the biggest he was in his entire career. Yep, yep. A lot of people in this were really, really big and hot. It was. Yeah Jared Leto's in this. Yes he is. Yes he is. He was still relatively like young my so-called life doing that stuff. And he plays it well too. He's like this. It's so annoying. Always chomping on that gum. Yeah. But then when he sends those two guys to their death, it really affects him. Just look at that. They go, hey, we're going to get, some really good insight into Colonel Charles coldness. You know, the only time you worry about a soldier is when he starts bitching and likes I love. He has that little, bamboo baton that just carries around, hit people in the head with it and everything. So already the battle hasn't even started, and men are passing out. It hasn't even started. They don't have water, like the most basic necessity. And what does he say to that? I don't give a shit. All right. And you're not gonna have too many soldiers left. Did they all stop? They all pass out. I mean, that's just not the answer you want to hear. No, not at all. And Penn's like, okay, yeah, yeah. So, star Elias, there is a captain and so is John Cusack. So they're the same rank. And that will be important later, given how tumultuous his services relationship is with tall. And then how somewhat warm tall is to Cusack. Oh, he's his name is John in the movie, John Cusack's character's first name's John. I mean, even calls him like a son. You're like a son to me. That's, that's my favorite scene in the movie. Yeah I love the 100%. That's me I love that. So they did not know the best way to shoot these battle scenes. And they wanted something kind of unique and different. So they rigged up this absolutely massive crane a huge crane that could go up with them. So that's why when they're like when this battle starts and we're running, it's so smooth and we're like gliding around the the grass with them. I was going to ask yeah. Not easy. And so you would just be able to use the crane because they're literally like they're on a hill, like they're going uphill. So you just be able to use the crane for a little bit, and you got to move that fucker all the way up the hill, and you can use it again. But when you see the shots of it coming close to the actors, like they said, they had to train the actors like, there's one scene when the camera gets really close to Woody Harrelson, it's just whipping around. They to train him to be like, we're not going to hit you because it's going fast. It's going really fast and it's a huge piece of equipment. So you got to be used to like, this is coming on. Oh, this is one of my favorite moments is quiet contemplation with him. I'm like, oh yeah, this moment, let me not betray you. Let me not betray my men. And he get and they just shot this like in a fucking parking lot. They said, just like in a tent in the parking lot, like months after the battle. You just shoot it and give him. They need to, like, a moment. This is like my bread and butter. Your loan with like, an actor and you're like, it's you, man. Just do it. Yeah, just give me some. You love this. I mean, all you need is the lighting. Yeah. It's just, you know, the candle. Yeah. I mean, look what you can get right here. I love this. He gets this little sign from God. Are you here? And then the candle and and he stays true to this, you know, let me not betray you. Let me not betray my men. Which I'm getting chills repeating because I love this movie. He stays true to this. Yes, to defy the Colonel in front of everyone. Spoiler. Well, I mean, I certainly hope people have seen this movie if we're doing commentary for it. I love that moment. I love that moment so much. Well, it's also I mean, it's so good because it also you start to now wonder for yourself is this is his prayer going to come true? Right? I mean, and and really, you're right though, because he actually does honor that. Yeah. But if you're not being literal about that, it's just like, let let this go. Well, yeah. Let's please, for the love of God, let it go. Well, yeah. Yeah. And but it doesn't. So. But what he's actually praying for is actually true. Yeah. Look at that shot. It's it's amazing. Yep. Look at that. That's so beautiful. And it looks terrifying. He looks like he's like from hell. Almost. Yeah. It's like a single dawn and I love he's like yeah let's blow this hell. And he goes does it. Like he's basically saying like, we're not going to do any good. But it hurts the soldiers up, perks the men up. It's like, it does it does it? No, I think it would scare that shit out of me. Oh my God. Yeah. They don't look perfect. No. Fucking terrified. Rosie finger red Homer at the point in Greek, as I mentioned in the Malick episode, Nick Nolte, essentially wrote a novel for his character and where he came from, all he knew, every military decoration, decoration he had had, why he was the way he was. So all of his angst was coming from a place in the movie. And you can really feel that, you know, if that works for you as an actor, bless your soul. Well, I certainly don't think he did for every role, but the fact that he did it here, I think you can tell. I mean, I think it oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, he feels very, very, Do you feel it history. Yeah. I've tried writing backstory like that. Yeah, I mean itself, it doesn't. It just doesn't. It doesn't connect, right? Like, I like it. It's good. It's like a exercise. Exercise? Yes, but when you try to, like, hold on to that. I don't find I get much depth. This guy's great. The guy that gets sick, they call him psycho. His name is Robert Roy Hoffman, and he was his only other credit is as big guy in the pilot episode of Norm than Norm MacDonald. So other than that, it's just this. And he's great. Like, I'm sick. I'm sick, and this looks like a big guy, like we should. You think it'd be able to, you know, do it, but he can't. Harrelson's here with the time he has. I love him. And I love how, pen to shut it down. And don't argue with me. You can't. Because this can be a poison. Like, if someone won't go fight or when John Savage is flipping out later, that can be an infectious poison of someone flipping out. Oh, you're getting, like, battle torn. You got to get him out. You got to be like, you can't be here. Yeah. I mean, it could be fear. It could be he hasn't had water in two days. It could be any number of things. Oh, aren't you me? Yeah. We're here. We got a fight. Yeah. We don't have time. Harrelson is going to be good later. Oh, he's so good. I love he gets really scared coming up. Like when he's trying to say he's like, you know, bring in reinforcements. His voice is cracking. He's like, reinforcement. And you really feel that. And then his his death scene is an all timer. For though I, I laughed the first time because it. Well, I mean, he says I blew my butt off like it's a funny thing to say. But then. But then you realize you're like, oh my God, he really did. Yeah, like that was the thing. It was sort of like, oh, I thought he was joking and just but one of my favorite cops cuts and shots in this entire movie. One of my favorite shots and cuts in this, it's so quick. It's when we're as Harrelson is dying, we're on his face and then we cut up to the sky. Like his POV and the camera shakes, and then we're back on him and he's like, where am I? Oh, what's going on? It's so quick witted. It's so effective of just, yeah, putting you in disguise headspace. Just a really, I'll call it out when we get there. The yellow grenades are interesting. Grenades used to be yellow. That's what they looked like. You know, we're not used to seeing that anymore. So the, the production designer, even I think Jack Fisk was like, was not. No. Jack Fisk says John Toll, the cinematographer, was not happy that he was gonna have to deal with these, like, yellow grenades, but that's what it was. And they didn't realize that that could be detrimental because they're kind of easy to spot. But these grenades, they didn't give them like a holder. They had to figure out, like where to put them, where to put the grenades, like in their version. Yeah. Wow. Which is kind of explains why what happens to Harrelson a little bit. So this is terrifying. Yeah. He's so nervous chomping on the gum. This is what I don't have the hard for. I couldn't send people to the deaths. Yeah I couldn't do it. Yeah. Let alone fight in a war. I mean, it's really crazy. You think how many people have been in war? I mean, I talk to them all the time in their experiences. It's. It is hell. It is actual hell. It's just hell. There's no humanity involved. And I think that's largely what this movie is about. And, you know, these Japanese geezers in this bunkers picking them off with these automatic weapons just boom, boom. So here's that crane in action. Not moving that fast. But you see, like, how smooth it is to get up that hill. So, you know, a crane is just based. It's like stuck. The base of it is stuck in, and the crane can move kind of any direction. I played that so well. Yeah. Oh my God, that's me. Hawk plays it really well. You know he only gets a few sentences of narration, but when he kills that guy, he's going to kill someone. So we're saying you do worse and rape. And then he's like, I got me. One of them is, you know, officers, like, who cares? You want to be the one to do it? Look at that. Yeah, that was son changing such a great way to let time and that'll happen a lot in the movie. And that helped them with continuity because it kept happening on the day. So that will happen a few times. We'll we'll see it in the movie. But that helps cutting your film because it doesn't matter if it's sunny or cloudy. Here we go. So where this is different from Saving Private Ryan is that this battle is going to last a long, long time. We get a little break, but. So this is the crane. That crane is. Yeah. It's up that hill. It is hauling. But that's how you get that. And it's beautiful. And that. Look at him. He can't contemplate what's happening. And what's so cool about this movie that I've never seen another movie do is it'll cut away to nature. And we see the effects that this is having on nature, like the dying bird, where you're going to splash out on grass and it's so effective because now, yeah, everything's gone. Look at that. Like you can't see these bunkers in the hill. Like they're just, God. Do you think let's talk about battles. This versus Normandy and Private Ryan. as I get older, I think this is more effective to me. The Private Ryan thing is so visceral and guttural. And it is, I love that. Calm down, calm down. But the way that I don't know the length of this, the story beats we take. I, you know, Normandy is probably more impressive and it's, it's, as I said, more visceral. But I don't know, I'm just so drawn to this, I think. I think it's really hard to compare them, but a lot of people did, which is the only reason why I. Yeah, that's the only reason. But I think, I think we can move away from it. All right. Because. No, no. Shut down. No. Fuck you buddy. No, I mean but like the narrative of because it was. You're right. I shouldn't keep boxing them in 1998. It's a good point. I should just you. Yeah. It's a lot of people. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's move on from that. But if we are going to do it, I just don't think at the end of the day, anything beats Saving Private Ryan for just its achievement. And what? That you're right, it's more jaw dropping. It's more like, oh my God. But yeah, but the story in all this is like, you are right, but it's it's it's it's apples and oranges. Yeah. That's fair. It's, I do really appreciate the lyrical element of this. I do think it is more effective at the end of the day, because when normandy's over, you're not necessarily thinking about. The. Existential thought about it like what's going on. It's like, wow, that's done thing. Yeah. We're like, Holy shit, what did I just see? And you're thinking about the emotion. Like when that guy's laying there calling out for his mama, like, you are emotionally affected by that. But when this is over, you are actually contemplating what is it worth it? Like was, what are we doing? Like, there's more heroism to Private Ryan where it's like, yeah, brouhaha. This does not really have that. No, there's way more gray in the thin red line. Yeah, and I do. And I agree with you I appreciate that. I think that I think that's the biggest wonders of this film is that it how it does it throughout the whole entire thing. But I mean, look at this right here. Like he's hearing these instructions and he's like, he's like spacing out. Yeah. And And he can't click back in. Not unlike the Tom Hanks thing on the beach. But yeah look at that children. He does. He looks like a child. Recasting of Nick Stahl because he looks like a baby. He was 18 when they did this. Like we see someone right here, right now on the verge of completely failing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's down there, you know, in the safety of the base. Yeah. And off the shelves. He's not getting shot at. You got to keep in mind when these radio transmissions are going on, a lot of people can be listening to them. It's like, you know, radio. Not like a lot. Oh, yes. This is just so effective to me. Look at what is this war in the heart of nature. Yeah, this is one of the effects of it. And to spend time on that, I don't know, it just makes you think, oh no, it absolutely does. So I bring up the radio stuff because that stuff's monitored. So when he denies his order, it is a big deal. It's not a private moment between the two of them. It's like people are aware and these you know, these were radio transmissions can be monitored, recorded all that shit. So I love that. It's a huge deal. I mean, like, just like I can't even imagine putting myself in his situation where. Yeah, no, for sure. Your men are dying all around you. You're being told to continue when you know it's wrong and you don't really know how to handle it. He makes his decision eventually, but. Yeah, I mean, he's like, if we go up in the front like a frontal assault, all of my men are going to die. Yeah, it's ripping my men to pieces. I have lived with these men for years. I'm not going to send them all to their deaths. And it's. You know, I love this. They're yelling at W.H. Roosevelt. It's hilarious. The trash talking back and forth. Oh, my God. In this heat, it touches it and it dies. I love this shit. Or dies or recoils. I don't know whatever the hell plants do. I don't think it died. I'd probably recoil. Okay, well, that's it. So this is a great thing. I love, you know, most the narration in this movie with the exception of train, who will talk kind of here and there. All the other narration is when we're focused on the person. So he's about to give voiceover when we're focused on him. You know what I mean? It's not like his character is doing voiceover when he's not on screen. Yes. It's not. And I think when you break the movie down like that, it can be a little it makes it a little simpler. Oh, absolutely. I think it's I think this is a pretty straightforward and heavy ish, because I think when people saw it a lot for the first time, they just had no idea in general who was doing the voiceover, because a lot of these actors were unknown to us. So like McNulty doing voiceover, we know that's Nick Nulty. But yeah. I just, you know, he doesn't really know. He's like, yeah, I got one. But like how do you feel about it? I mean, you can touch me for it. And I love that he's talking during it. Yeah. Like that's like yeah I love that. Yeah I love when they do that. Quincy you want to be the one to do it. I'm ordering you. Yeah. That excitement and then then. But then contradicting what he's actually thinking. Exactly, exactly. No, no, no response on that. So he is dash is playing doll is his name. And yeah, private first class doll and a huge character in the book. A lot of attention paid to and so kind of cool that he cast. It's not like an unknown. I mean, he was in Romeo and Juliet like he had been in stuff, but not he's not Sean Penn, right? No, no, no. And it's a huge part in this movie, like a lot rests on him. And I think he does great. I think he does too. I mean everyone there's not really a bad performance in this movie. No there's not, there's not. And why I like this is that we're taking like times it just feels like a battle. Like it's not all a frontal assault. Like we're taking these breaks, but the dangers always. It's still always there. It's because it's. I mean, it's it's honestly, it's a quite simple setup. It's it's we're down here, we can't see the enemy and we need to move up, and we have nowhere else to go. What do we do so that, like that stalemate of a question is what we're seeing, what we're experiencing as the audience. So we're like, shit, what do you do here? And and then everything that's actually happening, you're like, this isn't good. This isn't the right way to do this. It you can see some crew in the very left of the frame there. If you go rewind, you could see like the camera crew. Yeah, I love it. It's hilarious. And. Yeah, here's that crane again. Just zoom in and yeah, it can be. It really instills that like battles. There can be these moments like a rest, like a pause. And then it's just chaos again in that it goes up, down, up, down. Those constant spikes must be. I can't imagine what the what this does to an 1819 year old psyche. Imagine doing this show when you're 18. Oh, no, I can't imagine doing it anymore. No, I, I think action works best when it's simple. when you when you can break something down in terms of, like, the objective and having what in your way essentially what's in your ways a hill. Yeah, a hill. And there's people on top. Yeah. And we have to go. We have to take the hill with this island. Yeah. It sounds a little scared, I love that. Oh, yeah. And he's about to meet his fate, unfortunately. Great death scene. I mean, the way he plays it is great. And just. Yeah. The confusion. Yeah. What's going on? Who's moving? Why aren't there more people here? Yeah, he's going to become a big part later. I don't know if people realize that. That's the man who will be crying a lot later holding himself because he. Oh, my God, just look, throw yourself down in the silence. How he can't scream that it comes in. so you'll see we're a little bit more on his, I believe, like, his right hand side. And then when we cut to that shot I'm talking about, which is just a few frames, when we come back, we're like, kind of on his left side. And he's. That's when he's in his final seconds, you know? Where am I? all the rage is gone, you know, cold and freezing. this is just so believable. And. I think it's a great choice that they didn't show anything like the violence. Well, they don't show any any, like, the injury. you rarely does. He. Yeah. It's not. His form of violence is like that bird dying. That's what he's more interested in than gore. But, I mean, you hear that? Like, when he's like. I like how I laughed. Like I blew my butt off with them when he realized that this would actually happen. You can imagine what that is. And it's to the point where he's going to die from it. Yeah. So, you know, he does that with sexuality too. He doesn't show. So he shows the touching. And yeah, I like that there was yeah a great just up in the grass that shot. Oh my God. Now it's where am I. So does it. But yeah he's not I don't think he's interested in those things. Sex is violence. We know these things are there and that they're happening. But I think what matters more is it's it's it's the idea of all the senses around it, but not actually in it. Right? Right. Freezing cold. Because all that blood is leaving your body going to be dead. Oh, wrong. Really? Sorry. Sorry. It is easy, easy, easy. Johnny fucking Utah. just taking. And I love what, what here said to him. Like, even if you die, it's okay. We're alive because of you. Like, you threw yourself into that hill. So now we're alive. So good. And then a little smile. Come off. Come on. His face. The acceptance of death where we all go. Wait. We die. We do, all of us. Spoiler. Sorry, guys. Oh, my God, I've been doing it all wrong. Can try to fight it. Hey. No fighting. Yeah, that's our first, like, main character who's died. And we're going to see. That's going to be a common theme. You know people go, oh I love this place. You going to write it, lady? Now? And this is like one of the few times I've ever heard this in a movie because they always say, like, all right, your old lady. But then being like, no, I'm not going to do it. Kidding. Yeah. You just say that to them when they're like that. I ain't no good at writing letters. Oh, man. Yep. And, It's just too much. Too much for them. He doesn't want the. Yeah, the personal connection to it. Star owes no star. Oh, I can see it down there. Yeah, I love it. There he goes. Oh, this is so amazing. When I didn't really understand what was going on here the first time. But he's he has broke and flipped out in such a way. A switch has been flipped that he can't even remember his name right now. He. So he has to. I mean, look at this. You just seeing his men get completely annihilated, and we're going to come up to that line of loss. He can't even be touched here. Don't talk to me. Don't touch me. Lost all of his men. His entire platoon. Oh, like. Oh, that look right there. Yeah, yeah, he's just losing. All right, so dog tags aren't yet, but. Yeah. Where when he just is examining his dog tags and he's like all right. Oh my God. Hard thing to play with. Virtually no dialog. Yeah. Yeah. I just love having this moment. And you thinking about deer Hunter. You know, it's like 20 years. Exactly 20 years ago, 78 to 98, like. Oh, well, it is him. Poor Stevie. Go ahead, Stevie, go ahead. He just can't catch it easy in war. No, no he cannot. But I love that. It's like a little callback. I just I love this the flipping out and what he's doing, like, with his teeth and mouth. oh, man, it's so believable. Yeah. Just war torn, battle torn. Oh. Yeah. This death scene. Private, tell us a big thing. It's big in the book. It's big in the first movie. Just. And, you know, this is when he took. When you're casting this role, it's all about this death scene. It has to be, like, believable. And you really have to sell it. So this is Kurt Acevedo who's who's great. He was and probably best known as Alvarez in HBO's Oz, which I love. But he was in Band of Brothers, and he's just so good in this death scene. And then Penn, you know, get set a little bit of courage. Oh yeah. Runs up to him, gives him the morphine. Oh yeah. Here he is almost all 1212. There's the voiceover. Yeah. He can't dirt. Yep. He's lost it. Something like that. You got to get out because he's he's a liability. Yeah. Oh Jesus I love when Penn's like get him out of here. Like you can't. And then when night comes, he's just a raving like lunatic. He just start, you know, he's like, screaming. Yeah. Like, why is in me, this is brutal. And they whenever I see a medic get killed and like, a warm of you're like, oh my God, don't touch me, don't touch me. Don't. Yeah. Take his gun. Yeah yeah yeah. yeah. He just flipped. He may not even walk back from this, you know, like mentally. Yeah. This is terrible. Boom boom. To the medic. God that the jump yeah. Star rose you know and this is great. You know taking his belt off. Giving him too much morphine overdose. Some morphine. Yeah. There's that crane again just to get, like close to it. Yeah. So good. So. Well orchestrated. Terrence Malick said to his producers. He was like, dude, I don't I'm not really looking forward to filming, like, the action stuff. Do you think we can bring in, like, Renny Harlin to film it for me? He did like cliffhanger. It's hilarious. He was not looking forward to the film in the action stuff, but wow, did he do a damn good job. Nope. Can't take him back to hurt. I mean, he's never done anything like this up until this point now. Yeah, or really, since he's never done something like battles in this stuff and that would require all of this work. Yeah. This is terrible. The way the last thing he says to him is. Good luck, kid. And you're like, Jesus, it's just, he's so believable. Yeah, and he's one of the main characters in arcs. He's so good in us. But, yeah, I love him. This. Yeah. Load him up with morphine. Private teller thanks him. terrible. And now he's got to kind of make it back. Yeah. And he does. And then, I love the, you know, star is like, I'm going to recommend you for whatever metal he's like, if you ever mention this again, I'm going to knock you in your teeth. Yeah. You're busted up. Company and we get his property line. Well, this property line, it's all about property. Oof! Tough. Yeah. Fuck. I love the way he just claps back. His captain. Yeah. Just, like, helped a guy basically take his own life. You know? He doesn't want to talk about this shit. He doesn't want commendation for this busted up outfit. And so, goodness. Finally, what else is catchphrase property? Yeah, it's like, the only time we really see him use that. Now now the foreboding music is going to come up a little bit as we're nearing our way to what I believe is my favorite scene which is this. This is my favorite scene of the movie. This is probably this is one of my favorite scenes in Malik's career. I just the the volcanic energy that Nulty is bringing to it. And when he denies his order, he's like, you know, forehead is kind of raised and it drops and then he spits and it's like he he's never been told this before. He's definitely never had his order denied like this. And yeah, like he's got witnesses listening. Star has witnesses listening and he wants to do it. Yeah. So there's no one who freaks out. Better look at his eyes, man. It's like, how does he not have a heart attack? He can't listen. Yeah, look at it. Oh my God, he should have been nominated for this. He was nominated for affliction. He should have been nominated for this. He was nominated for affliction this year, in my opinion. Maybe should have won. Thank you, Roberto Benigni. But I think he should have been nominated for this too. But there was just too many people involved in the thin Red line that I don't think anyone emerged. It's like an Oscar got nominated for seven Oscars, but no actors. Has anyone ever been nominated for two different movies in the same category for acting? Oh yeah. It happens. Yeah, like Scarlett Johansson did for Marriage Story and Jojo Rabbit. no, no, like the same, like she was a best actress. No, you cannot be. You can't. You can't be nominated in the same category. Yeah. You can't get two best actress. Yeah. You're not. It's just for those like, something like Steven Soderbergh got nominated for director twice in the same year, traffic and Erin Brockovich. But no, actors can't do it. Okay. And his the way his voice is breaking. Look at him. You just feel. I mean, it really feels like they're on the fucking phone together doing. Oh, yeah. no. God damn it, I don't, you know, I know all of this. I've done this. I'll just be alone in my apartment some time, break into this. I mean, I don't, you know, I, I've heard you do this. You have. Sorry. Oh. So, I don't know. I love the way he does his fingers, like, against his temple like that. I don't know, it's all these choices. Oh, this is brilliant. Quivering. I remember seeing this in the theater with my dad. And after he said this, my dad went, oh, my God. Like this. Yeah. Look. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. And then his response was a very important decision. You're making scenarios. Check the time I love there's little respect. There is a little, you see like holy. It's like Because they just had their little, you know. Yeah. I'll kick you in your teeth. There's a little respect. This band. That guy is, star is like second fiddle, second in command. That's why he's next to him the whole time. Second fiddle, third monkey. There you go. There it is again. Good job. I have witnesses here, I love this. I know you're a lawyer. But I love how Nulty has. He's calmed down a little bit like his register, but he still can't believe it. Oh, my God, this love, this delivery. I know you're a lawyer. No. Yeah. Guys. So good. I mean, yes, it's. They can't believe it either. Like. Holy shit. And and what's also nice is like it. He he he's not like, he's asserting himself, but in his voice he's still like, sir, I'm not. It's still light. Like he's having a hard time. He's like, he's not like, hey, fuck you buddy. Yeah, I don't know. It's not. He's he's afraid. Yeah, absolutely man. There is a great, great moment the next time they see each other when, you know Nulty comes and he's like watching. He's like, what are you doing down there? And then he bends down to talk to star. And the way today's looks like he's about to get punched or something. Oh, yeah. Like he looks and he kind of readjusts himself like what's about to happen here? Everything. Their whole arc is just brilliant to me. It's. It's brilliant to come in. And when he relieves him of his duty. Yeah. My God, I mean, it's it's a hell of a something in Greek here. I love that he just he just, you know, melts out something Greek. Sorry, sorry. It's it's like, like to really not come back because it's easy when you have dialog where you're like, oh, this is where I disobey the order, you know, and like, fuck you. And I'm right. But but to maintain that level of being afraid and still say the word, yeah, I refuse, I refuse, I have to. I'm not obeying your order. I still have men this above blah like it's so effective because it's it's not what you typically see. five. At least they gave him a name. Now he gets a name. Brody. You know, in ten minutes out of the movie, where's five? This is such an effective death scene because he looks so young. Nick Stahl does, in the way that Elias keep calling him. You know, stars keeps calling him son. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's really good. There's a cool deleted scene, actually, in which Nick Stahl is like, I don't know if he's going to to the bathroom. It's at night, it's in the woods. And he has to a Japanese soldier, like, comes out of nowhere and they have to fight each other hand to hand. They don't want to fire their guns, like, give themselves away. And he barely gets the drop on him and like, bayonets him. So that must have been, you know, the night before. But it's a, it's a, you know, good deleted scene, but it's a long movie. I cut some stuff out. I get it. oh, God. Just great. And then he goes. Shook them all up. That's a very famous shot. Is coming to the leaves like that. It's one that gets used a lot for promotional materials, and I love it. But what? Yeah. What does that signify? Because we just we we were on a shot of Star Wars and we cut to that leaf. Now we're back to in the same coverage. So what does what do the shots of nature signify? That's part of what the movie's putting on. It's that we have to bring to it. Yeah. No, there's no explanation of, like, why this is. Here comes your boy. Couldn't really tell right here, but as soon as he turns, it was. Yeah, I remember it was like a big, big part, like. Oh, wow. Well, that's kind of looking around. Taken in the scene. yeah. I love it. It's like he kind of. I feel a little bit of like, I don't really. Yeah, I don't really want to be in the shitty there, man. Jesus. Right. Played a role I never conceived. Yeah. Get that house. He hits this guy in the head with this little button. Oh, yeah. That's on there is. This is a guy who just understands Saul accepts him. And, you know, it's a way to talk to certain people. Yeah, I love this interaction. When he bends down to talk to Star Ross, you'll see. Katie's, like, adjust himself a little bit. Yeah. Kind of look down and be like, is this about to be like, a fight? Yeah. What's going on here? I think there's also a little bit of respect to like, even in when he was yelling at him. Oh yeah. In the thing he's like, all right, well if you're doing this, goddamn it. But he's yelling you must have a good reason. Yeah, let's have a good reason. I'm coming down there. Yeah. That was very, Robert Duvall Apocalypse Now, when that just little bomb went off and he didn't move. Yeah, not fazed by it. I love this. I love his line. Do you have I look at that. Oh. He's like looking around. Do you have any more formal complaints or demurs I love that look at his face. God, I love. But he'll still undercut him. Listen to star Ross. I think there it is quite a ways of being reduced. just cut them down again. Like, it's it's not. It's it's just the realities. Yeah. It's not what you think it is. This ridge is not that easy. You've come back to Savage. They're dirt. Imagine, like, editing this and having, you know, the shot over 1,000,000ft of film. So just. It's so much footage. How do you decide? Like what? Nature shots to cut to what character to focus on, what character to give. Like a mini arc. Like this guy, he has a, you know, a mini arc. There we go. Just so crazy. So this is. No, I was this the one you were talking about? No, no. That's later when multicentre maybe. Yeah. These guys are going to go up right now and basically Chaplin's in the lead. But yeah, when Cusack takes over and goes up, it's a great one. Look at this. Yeah. Take six man. Go, go and see what's up there. Yeah. Go and see what's out there. Sure. You're your lower rank. Yeah. See that's the thing. It's like. When you're in this situation I get I mean but this is what you're told is, you know, just because someone outranks you, but that's just another human. Yeah. Telling you in a dehumanizing situation, hey, you go and, like, maybe lose your life. Yeah. Like, fuck you. I'm not going. Yeah, yeah, I'll go second. I'm not going now. Yeah, I have just a little rank over you, but. Yeah. Go. There's a good example of seeing, like, the sudden change. Yeah. Yeah. You know, got that. I got lucky with it. Yeah. Going on these little like side missions to figure, figure stuff out. I mean, that's crazy. You can't see shit. They're just in the grass. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. Oh, shoot. The bird. Yeah. The tenant band. He'll come back up. Is that Caviezel? Yeah, that's the reason. What? It went quickly. But, you know, he was like a stretcher bearer. So he was in charge of bringing the, you know, the wounded back. But he asked cross in the middle of the battle, like, can I rejoin the companies? Like, yeah. Like, who would ask to do that? Like, don't ask, like, rejoin the company in the middle of the battle? it's great. So he's good about keeping, like, some of our core characters together. You know, we got Bell here. We got wit. Yeah, we got. Yeah. The familiar people doll. So it's good that we're able to latch on to some some people. You have to. Yeah, you have to. It's just Adrien Brody. It. Yeah. I mean, it's already broad enough with all of the people that we've met along the way that you do need to stick to a core few groups. Yeah. Because otherwise we get too lost, we get to loss, and then we lose the effectiveness. Because at the end of the day, the whole entire point is that we need to care. But it's still a movie. We only have a bandwidth. Yeah. We can't like keep all these people. Yeah. Yeah. It pushes it just like that limit I think, I think so many people introduces, it's really concerned with the whole company not just one person. I mean obviously he'll focus on 1 or 2 people, but and yeah I think you're right. I think it's the exact amount. I don't think any one, even one more than this would be. I think too much. Man, this is brutal. This dude's like, in battle and can't even get her out of his head. Well, I mean, if it's the last thing that, you know, he. And never spend a night apart. and brutal. I hope he's okay, you know? Yeah. I mean, he's alive when the movie's on, so I hope he. I don't know, figured it out. Love that. The lady had a nice wife. Oh, yeah. It's great. All this stuff is great. To see neither. And it does humanize the movie a little bit. Even just adding this perspective and getting to get out of war. Yeah. You grounded in one relationship actually see a woman. These are not a lot of women in this movie at all. Yeah, it helps, but it doesn't take away from the effect of the battle at all. Well, no, I think it adds to it. Yeah, it's crazy. He's great in this, too. Ben Chaplin, no relation to Charlie, by the way. A lot of people ask that, he was very briefly shows up in the New World. Clearly, he was just like a guy who was there. And, you know, it's like, hey, if you want to be in, come can be in. And then he's in a, he's in the extended cut briefly of the tree of Life. Oh. Where he is a, he's one of the boys. The boys have a friend, and he's, the friends dad, and he's just, like, a total asshole. And it's kind of showing that, like. Oh, you think your dad Brad Pitt is bad? No, this dude, like, beats me with, like, a switch and, like, does all this stuff, and he's nuts. It's actually an effective little part. I get why they cut it, but. Setting off a bomb scene where it set off a grenade. Scene where the bunkers are. Yeah. Just thinking, six years after this could be. So it's going to be Jesus forever. Forever, forever immortalized there, apparently making a sequel. I know who they are. And he's going to. He's back. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's risen! Well, he's the resurrection. Oh, I wonder if they'll actually if that will actually get made or if, if they're like filming. I don't know what the status of that project. There's no way it could mirror the success of passion of the Christ. I don't know, man. I don't think at today's age with Mel where he's at now. I don't think so. I think it will. This is such a no way. This is such an impressive shot because everyone's in focus. It's not easy to do. So Caviezel up front is in focus. And then everyone in the background and Malick loves that. It's called full focus. He really loves to do that. Not often you're going to see like this isolated, like the perfect, you know, creamy background all out of focus. It's not really his thing. Creamy, creamy background. I said that before. I remember this part. I know I did that for you. I did it for you. I was taking volunteers. Go up, go to hell. Oh, that, hell of a time. I mean, yeah, if you don't have any water. Jesus. He's just so war hungry. We can, you know, reduce this bunker. We take this rage by nightfall. Volunteers to go up. So, yeah, this is where Cusack steps up. Yeah, he plays it really well to. Get all the volunteers. Yeah that's enough man. That's play. I like that very much, sir. Love it. Yeah. You got a sense. Seven up to get get this job done. Can't send everybody. Oh, this is great. Gas is so great. I love like, are you prepared to sacrifice any your minions campaign? Really feeling each other on Saracen's tells him straight up. Like I'm not cut out for this. You know, maybe you're right. You're right. And then that final line of you don't need to tell me I'm right. We'll assume it. Objective, objective. look at this man. Look at his face. He's like, just a brute of a man to gauge something in the in the cost of lives. He already has asked. Like, Jesus, so many. You see, people die right in front of him. And star is like, I can't. I can't win this. What's the point of this? This? Yeah. You know what? You're right. It's a pretty big thing to admit. Like. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Fine. this is a great final line. And then a great shot on Curtis. Just examining him like. Okay. Let's assume it. Dismissed. Don't stare down. It's just it's so humane. It's just so blank and open, like, Yeah. All right, man. All right. Cool. so this is a good example about how they shot this, shot this, like, several months apart, their coverage and, point. In fact, they're not even in the same country for their coverage. They're like, one is in Australia, one's in Guadalcanal. So that is that's Malik being Malik. You know, he wants the light to match. So this coverage was shot in one location. And then when they switch back to all that is shot in a different location and it matches, you can't tell. No. That's just what he does. Yeah. So Malik does again cutting for the emotion. To be so may not even be. Maybe Penn wasn't even there I don't know like I was not even in his coverage. It doesn't even seem like it because at least I feel like that's Caviezel in this shot. It is. It is. Yeah, yeah, but it does. This this. You just be alone. Yeah, I think he's alone. But it works to isolate him like that. And that is a beautiful shot. Well, it's true green behind it. And it does look like it's the exact same night. Yeah. Like. Yeah, at the exact same time. And I love this. Are getting another, you know, little moment together another connection. And then leading up to that one in the House that they have and which is just perfect it it's a it's a good it's you know, I, I don't believe necessarily in separating the actors when they're in scenes like this. but if you've got one that doesn't have any dialog. Yeah. He's not speaking. It's all right. So yeah, I mean, it's a harder job for sure as the actor, but I think it's actually more doable. to actually have those, you know, have to worry about sound. True. So you can just have, you know, your reader, but you can take your time and, you don't have to worry about, like, because whenever, when the actor says something to you, you listen, then you say something back to have that gone, I think, lessens it. But if you're in silent, it's it doesn't seem wrong necessarily. Well, I think that's one of the things that, you know, turn Caviezel on to Malik so much that he could handle that stuff. Yeah, you could take it and just. Yeah, this is what we're going to do. And as the movie was going on, whit was becoming a much more significant character. He was not a significant character as it was written. So he's becoming. Yeah. Much more. Yeah. They're savages, you know, freaking out. This is, you know, really something tum's we're about to see, I believe it's like, wake up. And I mean, dude, just sleeping in the like you're just sleeping in the dirt. That's what you do to get a few hours of shut eye. Yeah. Get up and start fighting again. Oh, God. It's like when he wakes up, he has this thing of, like. It kind of looks like he doesn't know where he is at first. You know, when you do that and you're like, oh, like, oh shit, I'm here. Oh, yeah. What's. Going together. That's, you know, that's like what he's fighting for. You get to go back to her. That's his prize. I get to live. Yeah. Like, this is like, really like the closest to sex that Malik will ever get. Yeah. Again, not not really interested. I think, like Rachel McAdams and Ben Affleck are for her. Someone's, like, fooling around. There's. There's a little nudity and do the one like not gratuitous of cups two. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just a little bit. But it's not like sexual. Yeah. And we talked about the sex scene non sex scene in Badlands. Like is that at all. It is like oh I think yeah I mean that's just also one of those one of a kind lines that has something like it's like I'm just going to say like shadows. I never knew how terrible it would be. I I never knew it could be that terrible, devastating sunlight at 10 p.m. in Paris. It was amazing. Amazing. There's, like, four other people barely stayed awake. I was exhausted, deliriously jetlagged. Oh, I'm fantastic. What a movie to see when you're the jet lagged. But I had to. It was like I got to see. I got to see it. I saw that in Punch-Drunk Love and Paris other great, great time. Had to sleep in in the dirt like, oh my God, I love this eating and just kind of looking around. Still have not seen really the face of a Japanese soldier yet. And it is really something how we are going to feel for those men so deeply when we meet them, without knowing any of them. And there's a whole there's a whole movie right there, like some are guarding their friend. It's like you can see that it could be these guys, you know, if they got overtaken. I love him. I just love all of this contemplation. My dune, my. Sorry. Yeah. Look at this. It's raining. It's like in the dirt, you know? Pillow. Yeah, that's what it is. Man in the dirt is kind of. Yeah. Waking up. Look how miserable that looks. Oh. You got to wake up and fight a water. Jesus. I just love these moments. They give us character moments. It doesn't. There's no. This is not a movie that's heavily focused on plot. We get what they're doing, but it's just they're fighting the battle. It's more about the company or about the story. I watch wonder, I wonder how much sleep he got. Star Wars? Yeah. You can't imagine a lot, right? Like you can't think there. Anyone's really getting that much sleep out here. The conditions are just fear. Yeah. You know, not knowing what the hell's going to happen. Yeah, they got to go up. Beautiful music. Gotta love hands. I just love this music. Is going to blow that whistle. I love how just soft and sincere he is with CubeSat. Yeah, but you really, you know, you're like a son to me. And you know. And that's. Oh, no no no. Go, go. And that's just something like how life is like in any situation that you're in. You find people that for whatever reason, is that as a mentor or that you see something in. Yeah. And you play favoritism and you're like, I don't know what it is, but that's my guy right there. And it's nothing to do with anybody else, right? You're like, no, it's just something about him. I like it and that's, that's and that's exactly who that is. Yeah. And it plays it all without ever telling us that. Oh yeah. Yeah. We have to like, watch and pay attention and. Yeah. And for all that. So this is the scene you were talking about a while ago that. Yeah, he's leading and he's so. Well, he does a thing where he gives a few orders up here and he's kind of out of breath and he goes, okay, okay. Yeah, he's hit twice and he's like, all right, shit. And yeah, I mean, he is in command of this little mini mission, but you still fear feel the fear of all of them. Well, it's impossible not to unless you're Tom Sizemore. You know, who just has? Afraid they just got the look down on me. I'm fine. You are a coward. Son of a bitch. Yeah. Just that. Like the amount of shells. Oh, yeah. They're coming up. I mean, this is, like, damn near suicide mission. You got to figure out where the hell they are. But, But as you said, action should be simple. This is all been simple. We know what they're doing. We know that they have to get to the top of the hill. It's just taking so long. Yeah, which would have, you know, in real life, in the real battle way. They're just also exhausted, like Jesus. But yeah, we get it. No water, no water. Yep. Yeah. Here's this double. Okay. It's great. Yep. Kind of telling yourself, just like, kind of. Oh, yeah. And himself, like. Okay. Yeah. Here we go. We're in it. Oh, hell. He take his helmet off, I guess, to get a better look. It seems a little dangerous there, John. Yeah. Jesus. He has to get the good shot, though. I guess the helmet doesn't give you as much. I know you can't see as much now. It's probably a bad move. Or maybe there's a reason. I don't know. I don't know. But it seems like if you're sticking your head out, you might get shot. Boom. Maybe. Maybe a hell of a surprise. Cusack's head just explodes. We're like, all right, well, that was mean. I would have walked out of the theater. I'm out. It's. No. It's bullshit. He just kills them. Oh, most people die in war. Are you kidding me? You get killed waking up mother, cuz I love that. To see it gives us some perspective of how far away we are. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that. He forgets to, you know, say, Uncle Baker, one has to catch himself. Yeah, this is great. I mean, when they take this, this little bunker. Yeah. When we're starting to get the humanity from the other side and that they're there, you know, they're following orders as well. And again, like, you know, where they have to go, you know, like where like we have the map laid out for us. Holy shit. Look at that. That's their own shit to those their own shells. Yeah. All right, we did go. Oh my God. And you're tripping up your way, climbing up this huge damn hill. Oh my God. Oh. Yeah. People get their hero moments. This is when Dash gets to use his pistol there, and I think it's clean. Who's got that shotgun? He's like a surgeon with a shotgun. It's just like, next objective. Next objective. You're not even thinking about the end results. Like our butts. Get to this rock. Get to this rock. Okay, now we're here. Let's go. Here. Look at that. Oh, fuck, I love that click, though, is showing us. Yeah, in the bunker. Boom boom. Fuck. There's one one down. Is not okay now. yeah. Here he goes. Getting his moment with him. Right. So, Dale, that's first time I've heard his name. He's the one with that. I think, like, it's like an automatic god. He's someone who's going to be big from here on out. Essentially. Yeah. Hiding behind these tiny ass rocks. God. Oh, that right there. Right there. And then his reaction later when Ben Chaplin kind of breaks down the dash and says, you know, I shot a man that's so moving. Yeah. And then you see this, it's like, kind of flip out this panic. And then he's got to step up to it. Yeah, I've always loved him. I've always loved that even to this day. Like when he shows up and stuff, I'm like, he's so fun. He actually still looks the same. Yeah he does, he does. All right, here we go, dude. Yep. That's your moment. Take it. Oh. It's yours. I mean, a pistol. Oh. So good. What a face. Yeah. Yes, yes. Stache. God, what a crazy burst of, like, just insane courage, energy. Cuz what the hell's he doing? Oh, great stuff. And this is really the first time we get to see that it is actually pretty skilled. Pretty skilled soldier. He's, you know, sure, he went AWOL, but he knows. He knows his guns. He knows his weapons. He knows his battle strategy. Yeah, that's a great shot of him. That hill really here in the music. Oh, yeah. I love that camera. Just kind of like fell. We really. We feel like we're one of them, you know? I mean, it sounds. Oh, yeah. It's so good. Out of control. Definitely this massive instrument. I don't I don't even know how it was done, but it's huge. Like that gong type effect. Yeah, it has had it. And it's like massive room. I mean, this thing was like huge the way they did it at some you'll hear in a few Malick movies actually that same instrument. But yeah, used to great effect here. yeah. And here we go. Now the the enemies starting to get a face. It's much more. Well, you did the proximity. Yeah, yeah. And that's all. After falling back to. Oh yeah. That's, that's crazy to see. Yeah. When they keep doing that dropping those grenades in the in the bunkers man. He's a hell of a shot. Yeah. He's making good use that pistol that he stole. Oh look at this. It's thrown grenades everywhere. And what's also cool is that everything's accounted for. Like, there's they're like, no one's just throwing things. And we're not seeing the reaction from them. I mean, oh, above K right there maybe. But you know, you know, I mean no no, of course it's everything's very like like there's, you're you're tracking everything very well. See the calls and effect of damn near everything. Like the camera's not shaking. Yeah. We're not like everything is where we see and understand everything that's happening. 1998 was a big, action year for John Cusack. Carlos con air. That was, 97, I'm sorry to say. Do you want to fight? Because it just was 97. It was. I'm sorry. It was a big year for cage at Face Off in Con Air. Same year. sorry, man, I started I, I, I question it. You want me to look up right now? I want you to look up. You don't think I know when Con Air came out? I think you're on my phone. You. Oh, so I'm wrong. We're going to keep recording. Keep recording? All right, I'll handle this. The whistle has been blown. Which has signified the victory. We don't have to narrate the fucking movie. how dare you? Now tell me I'm wrong. What do I get? What? I'm not going to tell you, right? Because I know I'm right. What do I get when I know that I'm right? What do you get? What do I get you? You get nothing because you're wrong. June 6th, 1997 release date. Mother fucker. Don't come at me with dates. I know dates. Jesus, that's nothing to me. Con air date. You don't think it's nothing to me? Nothing. Oh, this is great. This. Is this a great breakdown, though? Looks like it's going to be sick. And I love how, you know, Dash comes up to him, and it's just it's a really. It's an intimate moment between them. And clean off their. Ironic that you mentioned June 6th because that is, yesterday. Yes, it is several years apart, but yes, it is no more than seven. Wonder if they planned that on purpose. Oh, I love this shot of it. Yeah. just. Yeah. The worse hell. And I love all of these actors. I love the way they play. This is a story like, on all of their faces about, you know, some are scared, some are defiant, some look a little kooky, like, they're just kind of like, you know, John Savage. It's. We can put. It's almost like there's an American counterpart for each of them. And I, when they raid the village, like that guy, like over his friend is trying to fight them off with, like, a wooden stick or something. And there's. We're just appreciating all of it. That little smile on his face. You're big Sons of Anarchy fan, right? I was for the majority of the seasons. Do you know Liam O'Neill from season three? Does that ring a bell? O'Neill from season three. Did he play that? That's. That's the character's name. Liam O'Neill is the character's name. The actor's name is Ari Irvin. This guy playing Dale who's going to shove the cigaret up his nose and eventually have have an arc here, this, this fellow, this is going to have a whole arc of, you know, pulling out their teeth with pliers and then realizing how, inhumane that is. Right. So I've never seen him before. That's the only reason I brought that up. Yeah, I can't recall him. Yeah, I have, I watched the show live, so that's I go, yeah, I know they went. The idea was that they went to, Ireland, I believe. Okay. Season three. William. That attracts. Yeah. Like an Irish name. Yeah. It looks like he's got right here. Yeah, but you can't say that anymore. Oh, okay. I didn't know. Sorry, folks. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be careful. I love which is often gum. Okay. You want some gum? Yeah. He's like kind of. Oh my God. I'm just. Yeah. I love all of these guys. I love the way this is played. Particularly when we get to the village. And just that hell of storming that village with when you can't see anything. Okay. you can, Nulty. Happier than shit. Oh, my God. Waco. John. Yeah. Look at him! Run! He's all happy. Jesus's bombs going off. this is so great. So. Yeah. No, he was completely sick during the scene in between takes, he was just laying down on a cot, just like dead sick. I love the way this is played. Cusack saying very little. I mean, you would never know in a million years that he was sick. No, no, I love that. I just learned that from the commentary. But I love that. But yeah, there's there's a way that he plays this without, you know, pressing too hard. Like, Star O's might have to worry about water. Come on. And then this is just great because he just unloads just about everything, but is just using he's not unloading on Cusack. Just like, oh, it's just unloading all the stuff about what he's feeling. Starts talking about son. Like, oh yeah, it's my first war. Yes, right. My son, the first is your first war pass out battle pass. God, I love this. And he says, you do know, like you can die from this. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Well, tough boys. Yeah. And just cuz act just like looking and just looking and just trying to get through to him. And he he he's doing his best to try to with his eyes to like, make him aware. I think he gets through. Oh yeah. He definitely does. Like just by looking at him like it's like you realize what you're saying is wrong, right? This is. Yeah. He's just going to unload. I love this. I need water, buddy. Fit. Yeah. Strength is sapped. I mean, and really, he talks himself into it, too. Yeah. And with Cusack not saying and. Yeah, he does. And I love when he makes his decision. He's just like, God dammit, God damn it. There it is. There it is. It's what he's saying. It passed over and he's standing his ground. Yeah, passed over. Yeah. It's my first war. God. It's still. Yeah. Like, this is what you're in and for and and it's that. Yeah. Well, he's not fighting him either. No, he's not getting pissed. And then again, because he respects him. No disrespect. And so it's like, oh this is yep. That. And now it's a different tactic. I love the contempt he has for his real son. He's bait salesman. He's not a soldier. yeah. But just don't say anything with the water. Just don't say anything like the water don't sound like a wet blanket about this. Yeah. Thank you sir. That's it. Yep, I love this. God dammit. God. And he still is all hard about it. We're going to take this rage by nightfall, and then you can see cuz, like. Like he's like, all right. He's had enough, though. Yeah. Or else he's like, Jesus. And now we're going to lead up to the village here. Zimmer's music coming in faint at first in the music. It's really something when they take over the village because the music, all the sound gives out. It's just music for a little bit. And it's really effective. And yeah, they gave him a little video. It's a drinking game. how many times Agent Brody shows up on screen? It'd be dead sober. You need to drink like a fool. Oh, I guess that wasn't voice. Everyone say, can you drink, like, a full drink every time he goes? Yeah. so this is what Terrence Malick violence is to me. This is the epitome of his violence. When we see what he's looking at here and we stay on it for. Yeah, a long time, we stay on this. And, you know, what's cool is that we're going to get a little voiceover. Are you right. Just kind I look at that. He's asking that question. Right. I think the implication is that the Japanese soldiers saying this this is Elias Curtis, this voice. Yeah. It says it's not from it's not supposed to be Star Wars. It's voiceover, but it's his voice. He just did it very, very gently. And they repurposed it for this. But yeah, this a long time or on this and just really seeing the the degradation that this is all caused that I think that is his way of the guts mama thing on D-Day. That's his version of that. Burn it all down. God. Something we never even seen the whole entire time is the sun. The sun? Yeah, rosy fingered dawn. But, I mean, this is just. This is like, the scariest thing they do. They just run right into a village. Is all this fog, all the smoke. They can't see anything. Got their bayonets fixed. Oh my God. Yeah. When I showed this movie to my father in law, 87 years old, this was a scene that really jumped out for him. He was just. I think it was pretty disturbed. And it. Yeah, it's I mean, it's unsettling. Quite good. Look at that vignette around the camera. It's a black. Perfect. They can't see shit. I mean, there's like one point where they're just, like, walking on one of them, just, like, fires blankly and. Oh, man. Oh. Forget it. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying. And the music behind it. Yeah. This is one of my favorite tracks that Zimmer's ever done. What? This song said it was your favorite I know, but I'm saying like this specific track. Oh, really good. It's really like, you know, as is evidenced when they take out all the sound from the scene, it's a standout track. Yeah. And then, yeah, the bullets going back, like, what sort of bullet? And he. Oh, that is just like firing blank. Like what's going where are they. Oh. And then just terrifying. Oh it's a full on assault. Oh this is very well edited to it feels like they brought, like, a different editor on the felt to do this, to cut this sequence. Well, chop your. What works too is how we like where the lighting has completely changed. Like like it was almost as soon as the assault started, the fog went away completely. And now we're in Bright Day and I think even as like a continuity thing, I don't even think that's an issue. No, because now we're here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And the way some of these Japanese soldiers are reacting, some are just I mean, some are praying, some are resigned, some are fighting like this. And yes, some are just like weapon lists on the ground. But somehow I think this is even scarier than, like, taking that hill because it's just so much chaos. Like, where is everyone? What? Oh my God. And as this was all happening, your boy Oppenheimer was. He was planning. Who's building the bomb building? This is 40. Yeah, this is 42. So he's he's getting ready to build the bomb. That's right. Which was being built to combat the Nazis, not to combat Japan. And then we know how that worked out. What happened to it? They dropped two bombs. Believe it or not. Yeah, I know Hiroshima and Nagasaki should be thanking me. Oh, man. Yeah. Everyone just getting it. It's hard to talk over scenes like this because we just want to watch because it's so well made. But yeah, again, talking about. Yeah, this is perfect. Looking into the camera. Yeah. It wouldn't be time to look into the camera too, right. Like that guy. God, he just looks so horrified. Well, I mean, you're right, because this is like, you know, sometimes movies. And this is something you don't get in Saving Private Ryan, if that's what comparison. That's what I'm saying is. Or in, Black Hawk Down, a lot of war movies, the villains are monsters. The villains are not an American. There are monsters and inhumane animal. And that's how most war movies are. But that's not the reality. These these are human beings. Yeah, who have friends, who have their families back home. Yeah. Some of them may have flipped out a little bit, you know, and and yeah, the sounds slowly going out. So we're mostly just getting music swelling up. Oh my God, I feel like this song's been using trailers a lot too. It sounds like it. Yeah, yeah. Like, I definitely feel familiar with this song. Yeah. Now. So yeah, all the sounds that were just in this music, We still, we have we hear the. Yeah. Like the guns. Yeah, yeah, the effects and stuff. But yeah, the because words don't matter right now. Not at all. Beautiful sequence. And then as things calm down, we're really going to get some of that in. Some of the implications of what's happening are really dark. Just that day old guy like pulling teeth out and he's he's going to start tormenting one of the hurt soldiers, hurt Japanese soldiers. Terrible. So this is train talking now. That's that private train who will just come in. You know something in the beginning. Now, in the end. And it works. He makes it. We see him in the end. He's a guy who's like, I'm not older. I'm older. I'm no means old, but older. yeah. So soft with that voiceover. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what is all this? But there's a lot in this movie, including in the, you know, the battle scene. We just watch where they're using footage from Guadalcanal and they're using footage from Australia, and it all just matches up. And that's really a credit to the to the overall movie that you can never tell. And he has so much humanity for them. With us. Oh, man. And like what? What? It's him. That's Dale. Yeah, that's the guy who's gonna. Yeah. Like you got wood over there holding on to one of them. And then the very next cut, another one. Shoot some, In the book, they only capture 18 soldiers in this raid. The rest, either, you know, died by suicide, which is which was common for the Japanese soldiers, especially in World War two. Or they just they wipe, like, a lot of them out for not really in battle. Like, after how we just saw him do that. They do a lot of that in the book. Yeah. Thank God they never show us, actually, him taking a tooth out here, but that's what he's doing. He's taking out gold teeth. from. Yeah, from the soldiers, putting them in a little baggie. Then he's going to have a full on meltdown and a little bit when he realizes, what he's been doing and what he's done. But, yeah, just messing with this guy. So cruel. Oh, God. Yeah. They're going to eat you. And, you know, he probably can't even understand. Well, right. He starts talking to him in Japanese, and it's not like they can understand him. You know, I think he's saying something to the effect of, you're like, you're nothing. You're an animal, like you're a dog. That's what the Japanese soldiers saying to him, like, you're just filth. You have no humanity or something like that. Do you think we're ever just going to get along like everyone? Yeah. No. Now, many of them, unfortunately, not getting along is very profitable for some people. War makes money and, you know, conflict makes money. So no, we're never not everyone is going to get along. Not even everyone get along in this damn country. So how the hell are you going to get along? That's true. Worldwide. Yeah. With his teeth. Oh my God, it's terrible. Just imagine that. Like, he's. Can't imagine if it was reversed. And Japanese soldiers are like, counting the teeth of, you know, right next to of Americans that they've plucked out all these teeth. so we put ourselves in their shoes, and he's not even, like, face. He's smiling, laughing at it with that guy just dying right behind him. what are you to me? Nothing. Yep. For now then. That. Yep. It's a tough life he's going to have for the rest of his life. Trying to cope with what he did. Or not a hard time at all? No. He's going to have a hard time because he has a full breakdown a little bit. He's going to. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's right. That's. Yeah. Yeah. But there's probably some people that probably just bury that. Oh yeah. Oh of course. Of course. Probably the majority to be honest. You know. And it's just so sad. Yeah. Just watching his friend die in and watching I think Bell registers it. Bells there in the background. yeah. I mean they're just like bells, like relaxing. Like that is farting. And that's him sitting there taking a break. You're watching this guy weep for his best friend. Jesus. Great sequence to follow up the the hill battle with that village. it's so great. The way just pours water on this leaf. You know, you got to think about how precious water is. But you. I was going to say this, Roman. It's a waste to enjoy this moment in nature. I don't think the leaf even needs it. No, it doesn't, but he's getting a kick out of it. Just want to see the way the waterfalls, stupid chant coming back. So now we're getting back into Whit's world a little bit. Now he's, you know, back in his calm, his peace. A place that he loved. Now his nexus. And yeah, that's a that's a nice place. He was happy a Star Trek, Next Generation, the first movie. Oh, really? Yeah. There's this. Okay, so I'll be real quick. This whole entire movie's plot was that there was, like, this ribbon across the universe, but it wasn't across the whole universe is like a like. It was like a, a ribbon rippling through space. Okay. That it was very violent. Okay. But if it caught you, it would take you into your happiest place. Oh, ever. And but it wasn't real, okay? It wasn't okay. So I get it. So that was his nexus. That was his. Very good. Yeah. Very good. Another favorite scene of mine. Two guys. Everything's calm down. No, we're just going to get two guys talking. And I mean, he doesn't even waste time. It's right away. Barely gets his helmet off, leaving you off your command. the way Cortese plays it. Oh, you ever held anyone in your, you know, hands while they're dying? Have you? And you just looks at him? Yep. Big deal. It's a big deal to have happen. Well, I mean, you knew it was coming. You did? Yeah. I mean. And oh, my God, when he's like, I'm going to give you the metals. And he just looks at him, you know why? And just puts his head down. It's, the way they both play. This is so it's so believable. Yeah. I feel real sorry for you, Colonel. Look at him. Just look. I'm studying him. The thing about Nick Nolte and all of this has always rung true to me is like, he's so hard, but I think he gets it. Oh. He does. The last time we see Nolte in this movie, which is coming up, he's tearing up. Yeah, like he's tearing up and thinking about, I think everything that's going on. Yeah, I do think he gets it, I do, I you know, it took it takes him a while, but like I think he, he gets even what he's saying. Absolutely. He can't because he has nothing to say to that. Yeah he hasn't. You've been in charge. Never had anyone die in your arms. I don't like to see moment I. Sir. Sorry. Yeah. He doesn't want it to exactly. Well, I make a scandal. But if you remember earlier when he was talking to John Cusack, he said, you know, I'm going to recommend you for the Silver Star, the big one. It'll be hard, but I'll do it. And then right here, he says it with so, so much directness. Like I'll recommend it in a way that it definitely won't be refused. Yeah. Big theme in the movie, is nature cruel or cruel? Well, nature is is unforgiving, right? Oh, yes. He had malaria. No, that's all right. I can fix that. I can fix that. Look at his reaction to this. Yeah. might as well. This cuts on your face. Yeah. He just doesn't get it. Oh. Yeah. Look at that anger coming back up. I mean, that is true. It's not good for morale. Yeah. To have. It's. Yeah. For a captain to be relieved. And who knows what he's going to be saying of that little pat on the back like I like I guess what I'm saying about McNulty's character is I like how he's not black and white. Yeah. He's not. It's not all just rage. It's, there is some humanity in there. There is, there is. And and, it's weird how it comes out. but it does and, and that's and that's, that's everything about it. It should be called the Thin Gray Line. Oh. Good job. Oh, what are we doing? Red is the color blood. so it's more impactful. Yeah. This is like the last time we see him. You know, he's given his men some leave, and then we sit here sitting, contemplating, thinking about it all, getting a little emotional. And this is not his last scene. This is cool. They brought in a whole new. It was a completely different editor who edited all this stuff out with him on leave. So there's like a different kind of pace and feel to it. I love that Malick does that a lot. He'll bring in editors to do whole sequences. It's a lot of trust. Yeah, it is, and I mean, but then if he doesn't like. Yeah, then he has someone else do it. It's just it's all experimentation. No rules. Just show me what you got. Yeah. I love this little moment. I give him. And he's gone. Nature's cruel sorrows. Great line. Yeah, he definitely gets it. Definitely gets it. Yeah, he does. I don't think you could make a performance this good by just having it be that black and white. It's. It's all of the in-between stuff that really makes this such a really, really nuanced thing. Yeah. Agreed. It's a flamethrower. Rick. It's hot. Do something about that. That's one, two, three. No, we cannot, yeah, this is great to show this whole sequence of them on leave. How? You know, they're like summer kind of enjoying themselves swimming, but they're still, like, getting drunk. It's all this energy that they have that, you know, you've been in a war like this. So I love that. We just see, like, these fistfights actually on leave. Their little camp does get bombed. We see that quickly. But it was a it was a big deal like in real life that happened in real life and then a bigger deal in the book. But I liked it. It just kind of skirts over it. Here. We're seeing some people we haven't seen really since the beginning. We got train there. We got the guy that, said brood on it tells brood. We haven't really seen them since, like, you know, the ship. It just it feels good to see him again. It's like. All right. These guys made it as an Adrien Brody cameo. So let's drink. There it is. Oh. The Japanese flag. Jesus. We get a lot of cameos, actually, in this leave sequence. Like, there's this guy, Danny Hutch. We just saw him on the truck, but he was a jumbo, and we owned the night. He was also in black Hawk Down. Travis Fine is going to be handing out some mail. He was Shelton, the bully in Child's Play three. Wow. Great film. Wow. Great film. Are you being serious? I'm dead serious. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie to you. Child's play three. Child's play three. Shelton, Shelton. Child's play three is in the thin red line is child's play. Three is good as Nightmare on Elm Street. Three. I love Child's Play three. That's like my favorite. He goes to military school. I love that movie. Don't fuck with the Chuck. And also in this tent in the background as an actor, Don Harvey is in a tent with Star and John C Reilly here, and they were in Casualties of War together. So it's kind of a callback, as was Sean Penn to Sean Penn, John C Reilly. Yeah, a little bit. I don't think that's intentional, of course, but I love this little moment. He has with his men. You know, it's like the cleanest star is looked. It's getting ready to leave. Very starchy. Yeah. Clean face. And they're like we kind of want to kick up a fuss about this, you know? And he's like, well I happy to go. You know if Kevin Bacon was in this movie forget about it. That Kevin Crawford. Oh yeah. Very true. Very true would open up the whole world. Yeah. I could have given a part. Okay. Mickey Rourke's into deleted scene. Yes. One deleted scene. Really? Oh, yeah. He, like, recognizes Caviezel. Bill Pullman was in the movie. I don't think he is seen, though. There are a lot of people who were cut. There were a lot of people who had roles who, you know, love the Pullman guy. I love him. I love when he says something in Greek to them. You know, you've been like. You've been like sons to me. I love it for y. Yeah. He does, correct me if I'm wrong, but, dude, when he leaves, do some of the guys start kind of talking like, ill about him? Know that he's not mentioned again? I had, I'm just going to tell about a personal story recently because it's been weird for me. Okay? One of my managers in my job, just got fired, okay? With reasonable reasons. He wasn't. It was. He wasn't exactly the most, tardy person. Okay. And he's a manager, so, you know, once, many times you're out the door. Yeah, but he was a really good guy, okay? And and he did right by all of the guys. And, what I find weird is that, well, even I understand the reasons for him being let go. Everyone, not no one, started talking shit, but they started like, not exactly honoring, like, what he was good for. Like what he was good to us about. It's just the piling on. I, I see this happen a lot and and I just sort of wonder. I was like, I understand why he's gone, but what did he not treat us as good as he possibly could? Right. Exactly. Like where is this? Sort of like he was really bad. So you know. Yeah. He like, it's good that he's gone, like, like, where is this all coming from? Right? It makes you wonder, like in certain situations, even if you fail at doing the job, but you do well by it. There. Shelton. On the ground. Travis. Fine. Do you get. Oh, this seat right here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love what, Dash, you said they're war. Don't ennoble men. Turns them into dogs. So here's our guy, Dale. He's holding those teeth and and. Yeah. And it's. Yeah. Get this little flash of. It's it's. Yeah, it's it's a, it's a and it's a powerful shot just in the composition. Yeah. Especially when we come back. The sun will be poking through those leaves in the background. So it just plays a little. Yeah. It's such a good shot. But you had seen him break down in the rain. What have I done? Yeah. Same as I'll finish this thought. Yeah. So my point is if something means something but then something happens, why doesn't it mean something anymore? Good question, good question. History being rewritten. Yeah. Real time. Yeah. I don't know. Oh. They hold that for a while too. And breaking down. I really love that. About to be like that's la. No I mean close. They did shoot some stuff off Catalina shot. Oh they did. It's. Oh God. Yeah. And he's just walking around thinking about his lady. Of course he is. Well, of course he is. How else is going to think about. Yeah. And he survived like like he survived something that sort of like. All right, there ain't no stopping me coming back to you. Yeah. I want to stay changeless for you. I want to stay changeless. Great line. Great line. How the hell do you do that? If you've experienced a war? The final shot of her before the Dear John letter. You can kind of see a military soldier, like walking toward her. And I think that implication is that's her new. Her new dude. Really? Yeah. Yeah, you'll you'll see it. It's not just yet. It's right before the letter. Oh, I think maybe, like, I sort of like in thought took that as, like, that's him coming back. that's a new dude. and he's a soldier. She says that he's, captain tonight. That's. Yeah. Right. Yeah. yeah. I love that upside down swing. Some tree of Life stuff in there. Sure is. Yeah. Tree of life in training. right. Well, you know, he's got in the back of his head. Yeah. See, they're going to get attacked here. I love that there's not a lot of focus on this, though. But they do. They get. Aerated. They're supposed to be on leave. Bomber. Oh, finally, they give John C Riley a line. He gets to speak. It was Casualties of War costar Sean Penn. It's good. It's a nice little moment. medical tent. Jesus. Penn. Just getting, like, trashed, but not really. He just playing, like, in his movements and dialog, you know, it's like moving a little slow. Riley was good right now. You know, he's coming off Boogie Nights. I mean, he'd been around for a while, but he was someone where, like, people are starting to kind of know his name. His comes out. Yeah, it sounds like this. I mean, Johnson, Riley, it's been around. Extremely reliable actor. Always good. Oh, man. Pretty much any any genre. Any genre. Yeah. Like and like it. And just kills it every time. I think his only Oscar nomination was for a fucking musical for Chicago. So he can do, like, anything, any genre. That's wild. You know, I like to we're going to slow down here a little bit now that the major battles are done. We only really have that one mission, like at the end, but now it's mostly the contemplation of what we've seen, what we've been through. Oof! Yeah, that was a nice breath. Yeah. Just can't, can't take it. Alligator, I wonder if this alligator from the beginning. I mean, there's, a lot of reference to it. And to dope them all up. Everyone's still really scared of it. They like, you know, tranquilize it. The hell they going to do that thing anyway? Eat it. oh, man. Oh, agent Brody, there he is. Take it. Take a set. There we go. I stopped drinking a while ago. Still no lines. No cell lines. I think he gets one. Like at the end. Like there. Yeah, he does when he has to report back. Yeah. And he's like, they're coming. They're coming. We got to go. at least I gave him line. I gave him a name. They gave him a name. Well I mean they say, you know, like they say his name out loud, I don't know, see, is that someone in the bed? Yeah, that, you know, that still could be him, though. It could be her thing, but maybe not. Maybe that's present day, I don't know. Yeah, that's him walking down. I'm convinced that that's absolutely him. That's her new dude. If she's looking at him like, but she's she's in the state of, like, she probably just wrote this damn letter. Well, yeah, that's what she's been doing. She's been thinking about writing it. Yeah. And because even in the back, like. Yeah. And they hurt the window. She looks conflicted. Right? Right. So maybe that was the her new dude in the bed. Yeah. This is. Yeah. This is just absolutely devastating. That was Shelton again. Hand out the mail. Oh, God. I remember this set up so well. How? We're just far away, and the camera finds him. right away. She just hits him with it. His reaction to this are wordless and just perfect. Laughing. He has to reread it. Oh my God. And then just. He shakes it off like he looks like he's gonna vomit. He's like, oh my, you know, and you know, you're working your way up to this moment like, this is going to be your moment and you just have to play off this letter. Oh my God. You got to thank if he so has even like a will to live after this. If he is just going to become more reckless and war. forgive me. Oh, man. I mean, yeah, she keeps going. She's like, I'm never going to. Maybe we'll see each other again. Like in a I mean, yeah, like I have no right to talk to you this way. All this stuff. Yes. Yeah. I mean, it's all the emotions and I love it. Yeah. It's such a, Oh, man, I fucking been here too. it's hard man. That's so good. Oh, that's so good. It's so truthful. It's just so, I'll. We're here. Man is just acting. Is just trying to reflect, you know, humanity back at us and like this, that this performance is just. Oh, yeah. She just keeps going. Bring it up. The friendship just. She's like, I have no right to talk to you. This happens. Help me. Help me leave. You just, The hell's this guy going to do when he gets back? Hey, maybe it'll be okay. You know, I don't know, maybe he'll find love somewhere else, but it is. Oh, my God, is it devastating? I will never forget seeing this for the first time. Being gutted by that. Gutted. And then we just see him walk away. The cameras stays where it is and just walks off. and then the curtains. Goddamn curtains. It's curtains. It's aren't your curtains anymore, buddy. Oh, it's captain, Mr. fix it. Yeah. Mr.. Air force, Mr. fucking Air force. Back in nature. Oh, he's so cute. Yeah, yeah. I love, this with just, like, wandering around, you know, this village. They were just chatting, and he's gonna. I love this little scene he has with Thomas Jane coming up when he just says, yeah, it's so great. Yeah, he's so good. Have had you with my bike I yeah, I love it. it's just so perfect. Like we haven't seen. We have no idea who this guy is, but the way that he plays off with. Yeah. And look at all these just natives. Like what? What are you doing to like, we live here. Yeah, are fighting here. We live here. Kind of crazy that while filming, you decide to kind of change your narrative a little bit, to focus on a character that you had not planned to focus on. It's a that's crazy. It's wild. You got to trust what you think is right. Yeah. Because they didn't I mean, they did a lot of this in editing, but I don't even think like these these scenes here weren't scripted. It was just I'm really connected to this actor. So I want to go off and do things with him. Just him. Well, you know, what I'm noticing is that this, like, everything we've just seen, like we've really only started the movie with Caviezel, and now we're picking back up that up. And so now he is not been the focal point of almost anything. Right? He's been there. He's been in moments. And we see him doing the same things as other guys. But it's not until really right now where he's starting to assume that the there yeah, he's he's going to be like grounding the movie in that way and really be like, the audiences proxy. Yeah, a little bit. And yeah. But yeah, you're right. We had some space where we didn't connect with him a lot. Two hours pretty much. Yeah. And yet now we're back with him and it becomes like it becomes his movie. No, we're into his full character arc more than anyone. I said yes, yes, yes, as much as in a character arc as you can get in this. Right? Right. When those guys were arguing, they weren't really arguing. Malik just wanted, like, some tension in the village. So he had to teach the guys, like, how to argue in that. A fake argument that when Malik said cut, they were just laughing I love that. Oh my God, you know, what I love about Malik is, he is pretty much the exact interpreter and expression artist of my favorite quote about art. Oh yeah, and it's Bradley Cooper used in the intro to maestro. What is, art is all about raising questions, not answering them. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. I can't believe he used that. Of course he did for that movie. For that, for that movie, we certainly had a lot of questions. I certainly have a lot of questions. Jesus. But, oh, I hate it's my favorite quote about art and hate that you said that. Well, I loved it when it started out right. Oh, my God, this is amazing. Yeah. And then we got we got we got what we got. Yeah. but that's what Malik does. Yeah. I don't think there's really any movie where he, Yeah, I had you. Well, there's no movie where he answers any of this. He just throws out the things that he's the things he wants to bring up about war, about nature, everything. And just. These are what I'm thinking. Yeah. Here. And because he does not explain it, he doesn't talk. It's it's like we're saying we have to put ourselves into it. That is why his movies resonate so much. Yeah. I love Thomas Jane coming off Todd Parker in Boogie Nights, with John C Riley. Yes, yes, yes. Coming off his small part in Face Off, it's Burke, but yeah, he has been. Yeah. Right. Yeah, yeah. Been in too much though. But, yeah. The way they play this, I love it. I live in which like, I can take you back. Help you long. What's your favorite Tom Jane performance? I and so partial to Boogie nights because what he for such little screen time what he's doing in that and just his entrance how he kicks the door open to New Year's Todd Parker and that. Yeah. Talking about scarred, sick looking yams or whatever he says, I can't I can't do it sick Cam's And how he, I'm convinced, falls in love with Dirk Diggler. But this is never communicated. Yeah, yeah. And then just set I don't know, I love that I love that whole spin. But I'm a I'm a fan of his. I've always liked him. And me too. Yeah. With you I'm a sucker for 2004. Is the Punisher. Oh my God, yes. Starring role. Hey, I really like that movie. I only saw it once, to be honest. Isn't Travolta in that? yeah, he's the bad guy. Yeah, yeah, I only saw it once. It's, I mean, it's not. It's not. It's not a good movie or movie, but, you know, for a time in 2004, if you think about it, like the superhero franchise hadn't really. Right taken off. We had X-Men and we had Spider-Man. We hadn't had Batman Begins yet. Right. And, and here comes this, like, outlier on a short movie. And, I felt the anguish of a man who had lost his family through Tom Jane in the movie. Yeah. And there was something about this scene, like, if you remember it when, like, his family gets mowed down, I do actually. And and he starts to like, like, pick up the gun. Yeah. And and start fighting back. I was so fucking charged. I was like, fucking kill him, Tom Jane I love Tom Jane. I love him to that kid. That kid. He just looks like a boy. So he's. People look so young. The draft. Yeah. And him too. Yeah. Just taking it all in and taking it all the humanity, as always with serve er is about to have this great conversation with Sean Penn in that house. Oh, yeah. Penn's just like playing it drunk and well, that's Sean Penn's big. Yeah. Like, you see the deterioration of. Oh yeah. Yeah it's it's gotten done. Yeah. And then by the end when Clooney is talking, it just like sent just another person. None of this matters. Wait, Clooney's in this and George Clooney, let me tell you, talk about a pop in the theater. He was quickly emerging, trying to break out of his TV stardom, which was hard in the 90s, very, very hard, very often being a TV star, he he, he fought tooth and nail to get out of that. Yeah. And he did. Yes he did. Did he? well that's debatable. We'll talk about that when we get there. I love this, though. The scene between the two of them, how when he's like, do you get you get lonely only around people. Yeah. I love these windows. Oh, yeah. This this whole design. It just feels like they found it. They found this little house. But, you know, why are you such a troublemaker, This is another instance of they didn't have any blocking. The camera was just following them around. It was allowed to move. Yeah, they were allowed to move around the house wherever they wanted to. And Caviezel has got this thing about how he was just going to keep moving. You can totally tell that Penn was little, you know, kind of fired up or ready to lead a little bit now. Yeah, that's all just gone. Well, I mean. You know, people, it makes sense. You know, there's like a power and stillness and, you know, if you see someone is doing the wandering, unless you've really got a, you feel like you've got a point to make by joining in on it. Hold the ground. Yeah. but I love where it leads to how he gets emotional, you know, over over his Greg. Over his grave. Penn. Well, I'll get emotional over what's grave. Where's your spark now? I love that you're a magician to me. Yeah. How do you do that? To spark. Now, do you look at that shot like I don't see a spark in that at all. The eyes are just constantly over, like. Did he say because he believes it? Or is what he thinks he needs to hear? Good question. I only have good question. No. Okay. Questions? No answer. That's right. I think this was a big it. Yeah. I don't mind this at all either. Just how the pace has completely changed here. We were in like the midst of heavy battle. And now these are because we're dealing with the weight of everything that's just happened. And I love that. Well, this is the point of the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there's it's the reflection. It's what have we done? What are we doing? Where do we go and why am I still here? there's there's just so much in I think those are probably the main answer. Like questions of war. if you were to boil it all down, kind of goes there. Who are we to each other? They ask that a lot. Yeah. Who are you to me? So now that star is gone, band is taken over, and he's a little. He's a little out of his depth. He. I think he gets a deleted scene in which he's portrayed as a little more of, like, a villainous character. Like, he doesn't. He certainly does not care about the lives of his men the way Starro did. Yeah. And that kind of, you know, comes through a little bit when he makes this dumb decision to do this mission where he even tells him he's like, I'll do it, but I don't think it's a good idea. And now the leaves are done. Now you gotta get back to fighting. Yeah. So he. So that's Bell talking to band, the new commander. And. Yeah, just way out of his element. Not ready to lead this whole squad. Platoon. There's Brody in the background. Come out to Brody's big scene here. Yeah, this is his big moment. Oh, yeah. The lead is like you go. Yeah, the lead. Nose plays in this place here. Diculous. Can't give clear orders. what a terrible way to be led when you're being led by someone who is not confident. Doesn't know. Like what? Oh, yeah. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, this is the guy. Just like making it up as he goes. Yeah. You go. And yeah. And you see here like you can't send this guy. And with Coombs, that's, Matt and he's mouse in the matrix. Oh. That's funny. Yeah. That's cool. He's what? He's about to die. He's the one who dies on this little mission. They send him. Yeah, back down river. I love this, and I think it's a good idea. No one volunteered. You literally chose them, dude. Yeah. There's a shot coming up. It's just like on the woods and the river. And we very slowly see the Japanese soldiers emerging from it. Oh, it's so good. It's pretty long shot. And it's just hard not to be taken. Despite, like the imagery, I know it's hard to keep talking positions. everything about it is perfect. so this was nominated for best Cinematography, you know, along with Saving Private Ryan. Tim. Private Ryan won, I think, for good reason, because, you know, of the visceral nature of that. But do you think that should have which one would you have awarded it to see? Okay. Now this is a good question. Yeah. Because we're breaking down the actual like, what did win? This is where they come out of the woods slowly. It's great. man that that Normandy scene just like, gets like the ultimate pass. That's what it is. That's what it is. Because if I, if you took the Normandy scene out and you were to ask me what should win Best cinematography between The thin Red line, Saving Private Ryan, I would tell you thin Red line. Yep. All the way. But because of that damn scene. Like, how do you just say no to that's. It makes the whole thing. It makes a movie. It really is. It's an undeniable thing. Yeah. It's, it's like I think we talked about it, like. Is that the most, like, impressive and well accomplished sequence ever put to film? I mean, yeah, you can make an argument that it's right up there. It, it it's really hard to kind of find something to compete with. I think for that reason, it deserved a twin. Yeah. I think it's fair. That's why you do it. Yeah. But again, you take that scene out, it's this all the way. Yeah. Because this is using I mean, cinematography is really like a story in this. Yeah. It's really acting as a individual character. Yeah I there he goes and comes. This is great. With sacrifices himself to save. Well fight phantoms. But really like everyone else, you know, he draws the Japanese soldiers away from his company here. Gets a little heroic streak. And there's ash is still going, still living, still here. It's going to make it to the end. That was Cliff Booth. I was quoting what still is still here. I mean, you're decent devil shit. You. Love that. that's. Their cue. Yeah, they are very cute faces. I agree. I think it's the wings that get people. Yeah, the wings freak people out, but no bats. They do. They have cute little faces. They do? this is crazy. The way he, Yeah, he stays and holds them off, and he's doing all the sounds, you know, to try to distract him. Yeah. It's all about courage. God, please. Jesus. Yeah. You go. Nope. Brody's big moment. Here comes. Let him talk and everything. Yeah. I it's so crazy. Liked it before social media and everything that that became such a big narrative in the press. Like it really was not necessarily before the movie came out, but like, after it was a big deal. I remember reading whole articles about it being like, that guy was supposed to be the lead. Oh that's interesting. Big deal. Yeah. And I also got some place to be. He's got to go to the matrix. Yeah. Give me this jungle. Yeah. Look, I choose the blue pill. I choose the blue pill. Oh, that's so sad to keep him, you know, quiet. Still hasn't had a line yet? No, I think is on line. Is. They're coming. We got it. Like we got to go. They're coming. He isn't under five. Yeah. What. He isn't under five. Yeah, yeah. Oh well he got paid. He got paid. Well that's the thing he definitely did like I don't think anyone got paid a lot. They probably all got paid scale. But he did. But I mean you go yeah it's just it's got to be tough. I don't know if I ever heard him specifically like whine and groan about it I, I'm well that's not true. Yeah. I don't think I ever heard him like in the press. I still to this day, I don't think I've ever heard him say like even like speak on it. Honestly. No. Because what are you going to say? It's it's yeah. At the end of the day it worked out. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not your place, right. Oh it's not your choice. and I mean, honestly, if I'm thinking of anyone who's ever going to speak up like Robert Downey Jr would be the only person I could think of that would say something good about that coming into the movie. Cheese's. Yeah, he would have made his own narrative because of how loud he'd be about. Seriously? Good call. Sean Penn released a statement after Tree of Life saying that it was a weird flex, me saying that he didn't like it, and he said the script that he read was the most beautiful script ever, and that this final movie doesn't. It just didn't land from the way the script does. And I think he would probably walk that back now. I remember it was right when the movie came out. I don't know, maybe they just called him. Oh, we just missed areas. Five line. They're coming, they're coming. But yeah, you got to be on board for his vision for Malick's vision. While little concern for with his, you know, their friends combative relationship with their friends friendly. I knew he was a goner. As soon as they showed this, I was like, oh, I get what he's doing. Oh, yeah. The sacrificial lamb, the sacred deer killing of. Yeah, if you will. Well, I mean, it's that's what he does. He sacrifices himself to save. What what does that expression mean? Sacred deer. The killing of a sacred. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I think he that's based on, like, a Greek tragedy. But why did you say the sacred deer? Because that's what he's. I think that that's what he is. And he's like this. You know, this precious thing, but he has to sacrifice himself. Oh, he killed for the benefit of everyone else. You're just using sacred deer for literally the two meanings of the words. Yeah, it's a sacred deer. Yeah. Here's I don't know. All right? I'm just talking. All right. That's cool, man, I cool. I, I'm talking to, Of course we don't get Japanese subtitles, which is. Okay, so I don't mean to ruin it for people, but this soldier is basically saying over and over that I don't like, just put your gun down. I don't want to kill you. Like you're the one who killed my friends. You and your team killed my friends, but I don't. I don't want to kill you. Put your gun down. So it's kind. I also liked it. It's not subtitles. You know, you can kind of tell in the way they're all playing it that. I mean, if they wanted to kill me, they would have already. Oh, yeah. And this guy plays it perfect, too. I was a little scared. Then he starts screaming. but, yeah, can't be taken prisoner. He's too. That'd probably be the worst thing for it to be in a cage, you know. Oh, prisoner in a cage. Yeah, a POW. Yeah. He doesn't have the humanity for that. So, yeah, he'd rather sacrifice himself. Yeah. Like, even even knowing what it is now that you've said it. But even just like hearing this, like that, there's something so much more going on, then I'm just going to kill you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's like, just put your weapon down. But, it's it's a tough beat to be a prisoner of war for that long. Or you could, you know, he goes. And that's it. There's a sort of spark in the mood of the movie. The audience spark, who's just. Oh, I love this. Yeah, we get this. Find a little code of him. What's that sound? What? Sounds like freedom. Oh. Nice. you like it? Never seen it and never will. I hear it's powerful. I'm sure I've heard. Yeah, I've heard many things. It's not for me. But he's powerful in this movie. He is. Let me tell you. In. That's. That's a hell of a tree. Only time we get to see anyone properly buried in the movie. He's perfect. That's him. You can tell he had an influence on the company. Like they knew what he was. He was one of them. Yeah. Oh. Interesting guy. You know, it was weird. What's the point of it all of war question. Just life. Well, do the best while we're here. I don't know. Yeah, there he is. I would loved, you know, there's so many of them I would love to know, like what happened to him? Where do they go? How are their lives from here? I mean, some of them are just right back. A lot of them. Most of them are right back in the rotation here. You know Sean Penn, that's what he says. Like. Just another one. disagreement. Yeah I love this shots. Yeah. Look at that. Like the proximity between. Oh look at that. Yeah. Getting, Virgin Spring. Okay. Feeling right now. Like at the very end. fuck. I know, it's beautiful. And then he gets emotional, but, of course, can't let the men see. No. Yeah. It's all coming down. Where? What is it? We never really talked about Sean Penn. Where? Like how how big of a fan are you? Oh, I love Sean Penn. I always have, I don't I mean, what it personally is, but whatever I think interesting, personality and Hollywood figure. But I've always loved his style of acting. I'm not going to say I love every single thing he's ever done, but his intensity is just so palpable. When he was on here he is. Is this fuck, who's this guy? This guy. Is a little known dude named George Clooney. His arc on E.R. ended after season five in February 1999. This movie comes out in December 1998. He began on the air 94 huge. Like just a huge hit on that show. He's in a ton of bad TV before, you know, he had a few roles. He was in From Dusk Till Dawn. Yeah. It's perfect. Yeah, well, I'm sorry, you're another. No, no, it's fine. But this is another instance of an actor, like a well known actor who was willing to come in for a day and be paid, you know, scale. Yeah. The new boss. Yeah. There's actually a deleted scene with him and Ben Chaplin, who's Belle, and he gives Clooney the Dear John letter and they talk about it. Wow. And he's like, have. And it's yeah, we don't we definitely don't need it. It didn't because it would be after that. It would be like right now and we don't need it. But he's basically like, you know, you have a right to reject this. Like you don't have to divorce her, your wife. So that's how he's playing it. Like, wow, you know, you have rights as a husband, you know. So it's it's short, it's brief, but. Where did Clooney never really amounted to anything after this? It kind of his movie career just ended after The Thin Red line. Yeah, it's in a few other things. He's in the dusk till dawn. One fine day. South Park. Yeah, yeah. And then it's just Batman and Robin. But after E.R., he just kind of faded away. You'd think as a Batman and Robin, he just likes to the moon. Yeah. You would think. I know this is really. This is the only time Sean Penn has had voiceover and just the cynicism to it of, like, here we are, grade back. We're getting on the boat. Pardon me. I hope the war's over for them, but I mean I doubt it. Who knows where they're going now. But it's oh my God. It's just crazy to think like they're going there you go. Like you do. You feel like you accomplished something, you know? And they're just the way they're walking back to the ship was such like how much they're all changed, man. Well, I think that, like, if anyone has the biggest arc, I think it is Sean Penn because he starts out as such a company guy. Yeah, yeah. And then all of a sudden he's the one that's sort of like, look at this bullshit. We're all, they're all is, here's another one. Yeah, we're all in another box. Yep. Like he, he he's completely anti the system where the start. That's that's what he's serving dash looking for a friend. Yes. This is train that we get back to. You know the one talking to Sean Penn in the mirror. All scared. He's the one that did the narration in the beginning. That's him. There he is. He made it. You've been calling him out the whole movie. Yeah, yeah, because no one ever talks about him. No. Whatever. This actor never was in anything else, really. But I like to call him out because he is the only one who has voice over that is not in his is on screen. And because he's not a well-known actor and it's a small part, I love to call that out to be like, that's him talking. And I think he's really good. No, he is without with being like, you know, an unknown. And there's that guy that was our teeth guy. We had his breakdown. Yeah. I love that line. By no means old, older. yeah. What a fucking movie. Yeah, man. Oh my God. Yeah. My favorite Malick, as we said on the Malick part. But this thing, I mean, it's one of my favorite movies ever made. I've seen this thing so many times, it it's never tired or boring to me, ever. Even we were watching it here. I picked up, like, a few things, you know, it's, always something new to watch. And he's the last main character we see. there he is. Cynicism taking over. But I like kind of catching up and being like, oh, that guy lived. Okay, cool. Oh, that guy lived. You know, you just kind of kept. You see that crap on your face? Yeah. Yeah, right. Five made it his life. And then this final fucking shot of this, like, plant. And I don't know why. It's just so. It's exactly. We were talking about the new world does is closing shots up. They were really hit for me. I don't know, just this quietness in nature. Yeah. Yeah. If we start with the crocodile. Yep. Going into the sinking. Into the abyss. The coral atoll. Yep. Nature, nature. All things shining like this when you put on it a lot. That's a pretty well known Malick line. Like if people are doing, like a documentary about Malick or like an article, it'll be called All Things Shining. so a lot of people, that's why I said it like that. I'll have you know, oh, there's the birds. Have it. Bird watcher. Yeah, look at that. That's so cool. Here it is. So final shot. It is so evocative. I have chills just the second it comes out. I don't know why. I mean, maybe because it's the final shot, but it's like, why this shot like that one? It also mirrors a little bit of of, width. Yeah. You know. Yeah. Standing up. Yeah. It's a little bit of that. but also it's just a, it does it like what is it about a shot like that that has nothing to do with anything, but you see it and you're just instantly like, moved by it. Yeah. Like beautiful. That's crazy. And just, to land there. Grant Hill is the other person on the commentary, so it's really good. You get a person who's a producer the whole time. George Stevens junior. That's the son of Stevens I was going to say did A place in the sun. Yeah. Jack fish is jack fish. So, yeah, you get Jack Fisk, you get the, you get John Toll the DP, and then you get that producer. So you're getting a lot of good insight about like the actual making of the movie. Of course not what anything means. That's not what the commentary is for, because who can explain that. Yeah. Let's look at these names. I mean, actresses, those are four heavy hitters. One of them is an Oscar winner. One of them which one? I know Jared Leto, I know they asked me hook, dash, John Savage, Travolta. Look at him already. Vermin. That was the teeth guy. Yikes. Wow. Film. What if. What? I mean, it's just, it's it's such a profound, powerful movie that just. yeah. It was hard to even, like, talk during it. Sometimes during some of the sequences, it was. Yeah. Everything like, it's it compels you just to kind of just be drawn in and take it all in. I met George Stevens Jr at that. I told you that, like, at that, screening of A place in the sun, I had forgotten his relationship, too, because I had a couple minutes with him, and I was I was because he, you know, I was just talking to him, and I definitely would have brought this up. I would have brought up the thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And just wanted to give me give me a minute on it. Just anything, anything you can tell me. That's cool. Oh, this is a lot of fun. Yeah. This is I love doing these commentaries, Scott. It's crazy how fast the movie goes, though. When we're done. Oh, yeah. It just loses by. It's wild how fast it goes. Yeah, yeah. All right. So you want to call it any funny names or you want to go, do I want to? I'll just, like, point out someone's heart. Funny. Attorney's kind of a funny name. Dick. Wait. Dick, wait! Holy shit! Lee! Prop maker. Dick, wait. That. I had no idea that was coming up. That is a funny name, Dick. Wait. We're not going to beat that. I think we should have it there if we got to. Oh my God. How perfect. well, for, you bad movie buffs, I hope you enjoyed. I did too, as always, give it to us. Happy listening. This is not hard. This is not fucking hard. You've done, like, 130 episodes. You know what it is. But this was a commentary. It doesn't matter. They were listening to us. So. So thank the audience for listening. Thank you for listening. And then what? What do we want them to do? What do we want everyone to do? Who listens to this podcast? We want them to go watch movies. But yeah, so have happy tidings watching us watching. Thanks for listening and happy watching some fucking heart. Dick, wait. Dick, wait. Oh, that was great. That was awesome. This is a very important decision you're making. Star Rose. Who knew? You know Nulty and Curtis. Christ, they're so perfect. I love Eliza Curtis. Obviously, this podcast is dedicated to Dick. Wait. Lead prop master. Dick. Wait. What do you do if you're the parents? You know your last name is. Wait. We'll wait. You know that's the name. So do you go with Richard because it's like a family name. And then you you just want to keep that legacy going. Or was it just, hey, let's go with Richard, and then he'll get made fun of mercilessly because people will come. Dick. It'll be funny. Dick, wait. Or do they just not realize? And then and like the first day of elementary school, some wise ass in class figures it out. Anyway, good prop work in the movie. You know, I looked up Travis fine old Shelton from Child's Play three, their decent acting career, but then he pivoted. Get this. He pivoted to writing and directing The Space Between, released in 2010. Written and directed by Travis Fine. It's on to Be Shit, starring Melissa Leo. Okay 2012. Any day now, any day now I know this, I've seen this Alan Cumming, Garret Dillahunt, Shelton from Child's Play three wrote and directed this. Okay. Wow. Any day now and then, his latest films, 2020s Two Eyes. All right. This is way too long of a logline to read. CoStar Lily Gladstone. Okay, well, Shelton Shelton did all right for himself. You know, God, I love to see it. You just love to see it. Thank you all so much for listening. Thanks, everyone, for listening to the Oppenheimer commentary, the solo Oppenheimer commentary. Let me know if you want me to do other movie solo. Because, you know, then you just get me. But if Nick is here, he can talk about his imaginary work friends, which is really relevant to the movie, right? About the two hour, nine minute mark of the movie. That's when Nick gets drunk. I could hear it. I could hear that his voice, something. He's changed. God. Love him next time. What are we talking about? Next time? Oh, folks, it's I. It's an unofficial guide. It's a thesis. It's a manifesto. Way more than just the top ten. Next time we're doing what we started this podcast for, it is why Nick convinced me to start the podcast. That somewhere along the way, we were going to hear my thesis statement on the erotic thriller film genre. And it's here, after this, who knows where the podcast goes. This is what it's been all about. Actually. Probably going to launch a Patreon after that episode. And then, I'll do solo commentaries for every erotic thriller and it'll be a commentary, so that'll go like, you know, two hours and then I'll do an additional two hour solo review. So four hours of every erotic thriller ever made. You can pay like 15 bucks an episode. Listen to it. Let us know what you think of The Thin Red line at wri w underscore podcast of erotic thrillers. Here we come. Thank you everyone so much for listening and happy watching. Hey everyone, thanks again for listening. 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