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Good."},{"startTime":3888.342,"endTime":3889.468,"body":"Because yeah."},{"startTime":3889.468,"endTime":3894.307,"body":"So this is one where it's like, yes,"},{"startTime":3889.468,"endTime":3894.307,"body":"that Gloria is your intro."},{"startTime":3895.182,"endTime":3897.602,"body":"And then if you"},{"startTime":3895.182,"endTime":3897.602,"body":"and if a woman are the influence"},{"startTime":3897.602,"endTime":3901.564,"body":"of course that is, that is the,"},{"startTime":3897.602,"endTime":3901.564,"body":"that is the, that is the all timer."},{"startTime":3901.564,"endTime":3903.858,"body":"That is, that is, that is the whole thing."},{"startTime":3903.858,"endTime":3907.57,"body":"But then if you want one of those ones"},{"startTime":3903.858,"endTime":3907.57,"body":"that sneaks in that you don't know about"},{"startTime":3907.778,"endTime":3909.614,"body":"that, you're like, what the hell is this?"},{"startTime":3909.614,"endTime":3912.45,"body":"And how come nobody else knows about it?"},{"startTime":3912.45,"endTime":3915.494,"body":"I think opening night"},{"startTime":3912.45,"endTime":3915.494,"body":"is that for her performance in it?"},{"startTime":3915.494,"endTime":3918.664,"body":"Yeah. 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Maybe."},{"startTime":3937.6,"endTime":3940.227,"body":"Maybe it's somewhere else as well."},{"startTime":3937.6,"endTime":3940.227,"body":"But definitely check it out."},{"startTime":3940.227,"endTime":3942.313,"body":"I forgot it just starts."},{"startTime":3942.313,"endTime":3945.358,"body":"I mean it's like, oh yeah, it's Chinese,"},{"startTime":3942.313,"endTime":3945.358,"body":"but just starts and I,"},{"startTime":3945.566,"endTime":3948.819,"body":"I remember going, I was thinking,"},{"startTime":3945.566,"endTime":3948.819,"body":"this is literally yesterday."},{"startTime":3948.819,"endTime":3950.947,"body":"Oh wait, wait a minute."},{"startTime":3950.947,"endTime":3951.864,"body":"This is how it starts."},{"startTime":3951.864,"endTime":3953.491,"body":"And then the credits are a little later."},{"startTime":3953.491,"endTime":3955.576,"body":"Just fooled me again. So yeah, yeah."},{"startTime":3955.576,"endTime":3957.411,"body":"Check out a General Allen's movie."},{"startTime":3957.411,"endTime":3962.416,"body":"Please let us know what you're watching"},{"startTime":3957.411,"endTime":3962.416,"body":"at Wawa Underscore podcast."},{"startTime":3963.125,"endTime":3964.877,"body":"We love her. We miss her."},{"startTime":3964.877,"endTime":3966.42,"body":"We're always going to have"},{"startTime":3964.877,"endTime":3966.42,"body":"these characters."},{"startTime":3966.42,"endTime":3971.467,"body":"So as always everyone, thanks so much"},{"startTime":3966.42,"endTime":3971.467,"body":"for listening and happy watching."},{"startTime":3971.717,"endTime":3972.76,"body":"Thank you Jenna."},{"startTime":3974.053,"endTime":3977.056,"body":"And you know when you feel loved"},{"startTime":3978.349,"endTime":3981.352,"body":"you're liable"},{"startTime":3978.349,"endTime":3981.352,"body":"to do some of your better work."},{"startTime":3981.894,"endTime":3985.481,"body":"I love movies because I love the variety"},{"startTime":3985.481,"endTime":3988.484,"body":"of how many lives you could lead."},{"startTime":3999.161,"endTime":3999.912,"body":"Hey everyone."},{"startTime":3999.912,"endTime":4001.372,"body":"Thanks again for listening."},{"startTime":4001.372,"endTime":4006.168,"body":"You can watch my films and read my movie"},{"startTime":4001.372,"endTime":4006.168,"body":"blog at Alex withrow.com."},{"startTime":4006.293,"endTime":4010.047,"body":"nicholas.com is where you can find"},{"startTime":4006.293,"endTime":4010.047,"body":"all of Nick's film work."},{"startTime":4010.172,"endTime":4016.345,"body":"Send us mailbag questions at"},{"startTime":4010.172,"endTime":4016.345,"body":"What Are You Watching podcast at gmail.com"},{"startTime":4016.345,"endTime":4020.016,"body":"or find us on Twitter, Instagram"},{"startTime":4016.345,"endTime":4020.016,"body":"and Letterboxd"},{"startTime":4020.016,"endTime":4023.394,"body":"at WABE underscore podcast."},{"startTime":4023.519,"endTime":4026.605,"body":"Shout out to the Academy"},{"startTime":4023.519,"endTime":4026.605,"body":"for that great interview"},{"startTime":4026.605,"endTime":4029.734,"body":"with Jenna"},{"startTime":4026.605,"endTime":4029.734,"body":"that I borrowed for this episode."},{"startTime":4030.067,"endTime":4033.362,"body":"Next time is waves"},{"startTime":4030.067,"endTime":4033.362,"body":"Trey Edward Schultz's waves."},{"startTime":4033.446,"endTime":4036.115,"body":"Really excited"},{"startTime":4033.446,"endTime":4036.115,"body":"to share this episode with everyone."},{"startTime":4036.115,"endTime":4036.907,"body":"Stay tuned."}]}