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Yes, yes."},{"startTime":10637.96,"endTime":10638.669,"body":"Love it, love it."},{"startTime":10638.669,"endTime":10639.003,"body":"And I know"},{"startTime":10639.003,"endTime":10642.423,"body":"this is going to rank highly for you"},{"startTime":10639.003,"endTime":10642.423,"body":"because it's one of your two spots left."},{"startTime":10642.632,"endTime":10643.591,"body":"Number two."},{"startTime":10643.591,"endTime":10644.216,"body":"It's number two."},{"startTime":10644.216,"endTime":10647.219,"body":"Yes it is, yes it is. Yes."},{"startTime":10647.345,"endTime":10648.888,"body":"My number two. God, I love it."},{"startTime":10648.888,"endTime":10650.181,"body":"Fucking lost highway."},{"startTime":10650.181,"endTime":10652.266,"body":"Oh, yeah, I guess it would be."},{"startTime":10652.266,"endTime":10653.684,"body":"That would be the last one left for you."},{"startTime":10653.684,"endTime":10655.436,"body":"So we say. 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Blue velvet."},{"startTime":10778.642,"endTime":10778.934,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":10778.934,"endTime":10782.938,"body":"I mean, that's that's like like we said,"},{"startTime":10778.934,"endTime":10782.938,"body":"he's got he's with a studio now"},{"startTime":10782.938,"endTime":10785.941,"body":"and that's his first kind of David"},{"startTime":10782.938,"endTime":10785.941,"body":"Lynchian studio."},{"startTime":10785.983,"endTime":10789.779,"body":"It really was like"},{"startTime":10785.983,"endTime":10789.779,"body":"in watching all these chronologically,"},{"startTime":10790.237,"endTime":10792.948,"body":"this was the most David Lynch. 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I don't like The Wizard of Oz."},{"startTime":10879.785,"endTime":10883.497,"body":"I figured because you weren't"},{"startTime":10879.785,"endTime":10883.497,"body":"saying anything, but it's not like a movie"},{"startTime":10883.497,"endTime":10885.374,"body":"that I would think"},{"startTime":10883.497,"endTime":10885.374,"body":"you would like necessarily."},{"startTime":10885.374,"endTime":10887.543,"body":"But watching it through that lens,"},{"startTime":10885.374,"endTime":10887.543,"body":"I love it."},{"startTime":10887.543,"endTime":10888.419,"body":"It's fun."},{"startTime":10888.419,"endTime":10889.295,"body":"It's great."},{"startTime":10889.295,"endTime":10891.046,"body":"I'm just letting you know"},{"startTime":10889.295,"endTime":10891.046,"body":"it's an easy movie."},{"startTime":10891.046,"endTime":10893.799,"body":"I don't like it."},{"startTime":10891.046,"endTime":10893.799,"body":"Thank you. Great. 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Is he is he is there."},{"startTime":11039.737,"endTime":11043.49,"body":"I think we haven't still got the two K"},{"startTime":11039.737,"endTime":11043.49,"body":"quite in the right place."},{"startTime":11043.741,"endTime":11045.534,"body":"I think I'd say up two feet."},{"startTime":11045.534,"endTime":11049.747,"body":"You'd know better than me,"},{"startTime":11045.534,"endTime":11049.747,"body":"but it's still true."},{"startTime":11049.83,"endTime":11052.833,"body":"Okay, good. Great. Down"},{"startTime":11053.459,"endTime":11055.502,"body":"you are. Down. 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Bucky,"},{"startTime":11077.816,"endTime":11079.485,"body":"how much."},{"startTime":11079.485,"endTime":11082.488,"body":"What God about."},{"startTime":11083.989,"endTime":11086.283,"body":"Bucky, I"},{"startTime":11086.283,"endTime":11087.659,"body":"Bucky just lower it two"},{"startTime":11087.659,"endTime":11090.662,"body":"foot with you from there."},{"startTime":11090.788,"endTime":11093.916,"body":"Now Bucky it's going up I want it down."},{"startTime":11093.916,"endTime":11095.751,"body":"Bucky. Two foot lower first."},{"startTime":11095.751,"endTime":11098.754,"body":"God damn time I had a cramp."},{"startTime":11095.751,"endTime":11098.754,"body":"Just a minute."},{"startTime":11098.754,"endTime":11099.546,"body":"I'm dead on it."},{"startTime":11101.256,"endTime":11103.425,"body":"I got on issues with his wife."},{"startTime":11103.425,"endTime":11105.803,"body":"Yeah okay."},{"startTime":11105.803,"endTime":11106.22,"body":"Thank you."},{"startTime":11106.22,"endTime":11107.805,"body":"Bucky,"},{"startTime":11107.805,"endTime":11109.306,"body":"can we have something else to talk to him?"}]}