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It's a great movie."},{"startTime":4865.026,"endTime":4865.493,"body":"So yeah."},{"startTime":4865.493,"endTime":4870.065,"body":"Hey, good call, Scream five,"},{"startTime":4865.493,"endTime":4870.065,"body":"Halloween six, whatever it is, man."},{"startTime":4870.065,"endTime":4872.701,"body":"I'm so glad we got to talk about Scream"},{"startTime":4870.065,"endTime":4872.701,"body":"one and Scream two."},{"startTime":4872.767,"endTime":4873.702,"body":"So much fun, man."},{"startTime":4873.702,"endTime":4876.204,"body":"Thanks so much for this dove down"},{"startTime":4873.702,"endTime":4876.204,"body":"memory lane."},{"startTime":4876.204,"endTime":4878.24,"body":"What a joy"},{"startTime":4876.204,"endTime":4878.24,"body":"it was to talk about these two movies."},{"startTime":4878.406,"endTime":4880.742,"body":"Go see Scream five in theaters if you can."},{"startTime":4880.742,"endTime":4883.111,"body":"Don't wait for streaming."},{"startTime":4880.742,"endTime":4883.111,"body":"This one's really good. In the theater."},{"startTime":4883.411,"endTime":4886.915,"body":"As always, thank you so much for"},{"startTime":4883.411,"endTime":4886.915,"body":"listening and happy watching."},{"startTime":4888.083,"endTime":4889.684,"body":"Who what's the point?"},{"startTime":4889.684,"endTime":4890.285,"body":"They're all the same."},{"startTime":4890.285,"endTime":4891.152,"body":"Some stupid killer"},{"startTime":4891.152,"endTime":4891.553,"body":"stalking"},{"startTime":4891.553,"endTime":4893.421,"body":"some big breasted girl"},{"startTime":4891.553,"endTime":4893.421,"body":"who can act as always"},{"startTime":4893.421,"endTime":4895.39,"body":"running up the stairs and she should be"},{"startTime":4893.421,"endTime":4895.39,"body":"going out the front door."},{"startTime":4895.39,"endTime":4895.757,"body":"That's"},{"startTime":4901.329,"endTime":4903.431,"body":"Hey, everyone, thanks again for listening."},{"startTime":4903.431,"endTime":4907.969,"body":"You can watch my films and read my movie"},{"startTime":4903.431,"endTime":4907.969,"body":"blog at Alex Withrow dot com."},{"startTime":4908.303,"endTime":4911.74,"body":"Nicholas Doe Stockham is where you can"},{"startTime":4908.303,"endTime":4911.74,"body":"find all of Nick's film work."},{"startTime":4911.973,"endTime":4915.443,"body":"Send us mailbag questions at"},{"startTime":4911.973,"endTime":4915.443,"body":"What Are You Watching"},{"startTime":4915.443,"endTime":4919.581,"body":"podcast at Gmail dot"},{"startTime":4915.443,"endTime":4919.581,"body":"com and we'll answer those on the show."},{"startTime":4919.881,"endTime":4924.753,"body":"Or find us on Twitter"},{"startTime":4919.881,"endTime":4924.753,"body":"at WFYI W Underscore Podcast"},{"startTime":4925.086,"endTime":4930.191,"body":"next time we're going to break down"},{"startTime":4925.086,"endTime":4930.191,"body":"our top five films of 2021."},{"startTime":4930.191,"endTime":4933.828,"body":"Why only five? Why indeed. Stay tuned."}]}