186: Disclosure Day (2026) | Top 10 Steven Spielberg Films

Our first official Steven Spielberg episode! Alex and Nick begin by describing the first Spielberg film they saw, and how it impacted them (04:42).

Next, the guys (briefly) review Spielberg’s latest film, “Disclosure Day” (23:20).

In the back half of the episode, Alex quickly goes through Spielberg’s entire filmography (46:06) before both guys list their Top 10 favorite Steven Spielberg films (01:19:09).

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Hey everyone, it's Alex sharing an exciting update? Go to our brand new website, a podcast for all of your what are you watching needs right to us by merch, donate. And after long demand, we have finally joined Patreon. What are you watching? Bonus features is our Patreon feed. We're doing biweekly episodes. Ton of fun uncut content. We already have episodes live over there, so please head to Patreon and find what are you watching. Bonus features. Now to the show! Hey everyone! Welcome to What Are you watching? I'm Alex with throat. I'm joined by my best man, Nick Dostal. How you doing there, warhorse? Oh, who? It's pretty good impression for someone who hasn't seen the movie. I mean, I think I know my I know it's something just like that damn horse. I know a thing or two about a thing or two. Oh, wow. How how are you feeling to be here today for this one? Oh, man. Half and half, half excited. Half kind of, you know. You know, I'm gonna be honest, I think I'm a little bit more, Overall. Yeah. This is a tricky one. We've never really spoken about this particular filmmaker much. And with all due respect, he's just not one of my guys. Yeah. So we're here today to talk about Steven Spielberg. Maybe the most famous director is. Yeah. I mean, we've been doing this six years and have had a relatively steel burgeon light pod. Like, we haven't talked about it much. Of course, we have the coveted Saving Private Ryan commentary episode 77. Go listen to that, because we're in a not so clear state of mind. That kind of happened on accident, but that was a lot of fun. I still say that that is one of my favorite pod episodes we've ever done. I love that episode, and I love Steven Spielberg more because of that episode. Yes. And, you know, we're going to talk we're going to I'm going to mention every single movie Spielberg has made today. We're not going to go into all of them in depth. This is not a full Spielberg breakdown. We're scheduling this because he has a new movie out, Disclosure Day. We've both seen the film and we just pre-booked that. We're going to dedicate an episode to it and Spielberg. So what we're going to do, we're going to talk about Disclosure Day. Then I'm going to burn through his filmography quickly, quickly. And then we'll do our top ten Steven Spielberg films, which are perhaps more than ever. I have to make clear that these are our favorites. We are not saying that these are the best ten movies he's made. He's made because who can even make such a statement? So yeah, they're just going to be whatever our favorites are. But first we're going to open it up for Disclosure Day, which this just didn't work for me, man. It just didn't work. No it was no, it was a big I don't even want to I can't even say disappointment really, because I'm going to get into this when I get into his whole filmography. 20 years I've been dealing with this. I mean, the speed we grew that we grew up with. My whole relationship with Spielberg starts at E.T.. Okay, I'm born in 1985. The first movie I ever became obsessed with was Cinderella. After Cinderella. It is really. Oh my God, oh my god. Cinderella. Just hundreds, if not thousands of times. Watching it over and over and over. I still have every single beat second of that movie memorized. That's an animated film. I would love to my dying day. I love that movie. I oh, I rewatched I, I this is new. I told you this because I rewatched it in late last year, and that was my first watch where I ever realized, oh my God, the evil stepmother killed Cinderella's dad. Like, because they just breeze right over it. They're like, they got Cinderella's dad got married to a woman in six months later, the dad was die, was dead or so. And I'm going, well, wait. Oh, that's what happened. She definitely iced him out. I never even put that together before. Love. Cinderella. Gus? Gus. Oh, man. Maybe my memory is betraying me, but this this feels like brand new information. And quite frankly, I am flabbergasted. You're disclosed. You've been disclosed. I know I've been after Cinderella. It goes to eat, and I'm talking like I'm age four up until ho. This goes on for at least five years and I burn. I break three VHS, just playing it over and over. This is the thing about E.T. it had this green VHS cassette. This was the first. This is when I realized this movie helped me realize what a movie was, because I watched it so many times. Then as I was getting more like a where I assumed. And then I stopped watching it because I assumed something and my mom was like all nervous, like, hey, I know she didn't watched it for a month, like, what's going on? And I thought somehow something had shifted in my brain to where I thought anytime I put on a movie, the actors were performing it live for me. So like, I was making them work. You know, I'm five, six years old. And that's really what I thought. I really thought, like I was and I wanted to give them a break. That's really what I thought I was doing that like every time I put in the tape, like they were performing just for me. So then my mom and dad kind of explained how a movie works, waiting and what I have to ask because this is adorable, but true. But when you found out that like when your when your parents broke it down for you, were you disappointed? No. Let me keep going. When I found out what a movie was and that there were just a series of images on a little tape inside the VHS cassette, I broke the VHS cassette open, but I did not smash it. I took it apart very carefully because I wanted to be able to put it back together so I could watch the movie. So I took apart this VHS, small screwdrivers, the whole thing, and am studying it. I'm holding the film strip up to the light. I can't see any images and I'm just trying to understand, like how did how does that get on this cassette? How does what's on the cassette get on the TV? Like, I just couldn't put it together, couldn't put the tape back together. We went through three VHS of E.T. so like E.T. for me, it is the movie. It's the one that literally where I learned what the art form was, not by anything that was happening on screen, it was just the mechanics of the actual cassette in like researching film or just pictures, 24 frames then. Okay, okay, I ride that all the way to seeing Jurassic Park in theaters. That's 1993. My mom takes us to the tiny two screen theater. We didn't live near any multiplexes. We got there for, let's say, the noon showing sold out. We had to buy. She brought myself into my friends, my two best friends. We bought tickets for the 3 p.m. show. We had to wait in line for three hours. You wait till the showtime is done. That's how it used to be. We're waiting on the street and like someone wanted to go to the bathroom, you peel off, you duck into a store, someone wants a water. Same deal. And then you go in there and there's no assigned seating. We couldn't even all sit together. I will never forget it. So then Jurassic Park takes over and I'm like, Holy shit. Oh, it's all this is crazy. Jurassic Park. And you're still feeling like, you know, I'm a kid. Like I'm allowed to watch this. But then just five years later, it's Saving Private Ryan, and that comes into theaters and is a movie sensation. And I'm like, maybe a little too young to see it, but my dad takes me anyway, just like your uncle took you. So we keep I kept graduating to these different Spielberg milestones and I'm like, man, he's just always there. Not every movie he makes is for me in the movies. After Saving Private Ryan, I like, you know, well enough. I'm in my formative years. After 2005, I'm in college. Things just really kind of fall apart. And they've stayed that way where I am not seeing his level of spectacle anymore. A lot of the movies are just really long talkers, and that's fine. I haven't liked how much is Janusz Kaminski? Cinematography has evolved where, I mean, if you go watch, like Saving Private Ryan and then Disclosure Day, it doesn't even look like it's shot by the same person. Starting with Disclosure Day, I don't think there's a single shot without a lens flare and not one like ten. And these things are just beaming into the frame and they're indoors and it's like it's just from a lamp. And I'm going, well, that lamp has a lampshade. And like, how fucking what is the wattage of that bulb? Like, why are these lens flares everywhere? I mean, everywhere. So, you know, I just wanted to set that up as a way of like, this director is really important to me, but I don't think this late, this back end of his career, he's not making movies that really interest me at all. And I understand there popular. There are people who love musicals and genuinely consider his West Side Story one of the best, most authentic, most well choreographed musicals ever filmed. I rewatched it yesterday. Tried. That movie is a chore to me. It is a chore people adore. His second most recent movie, The Fabelmans, which is an auto buy, you know, very autobiographical about him. Tried that one again. That entire thing is sentimental hogwash to me, and I know people love it. I do, so I'll I'll bring it back to the day like it's, you know, it's two hours and 20 minutes in the whole time, I don't know, like 40 minutes in. I'm like when. Okay. So we're still just like, talking and talking and, like, going somewhere, but they're going to get there and like, do something right. And like, I'm really trusting there's some big, like, third act Spielberg in hell of a set piece. Nah, it just it this I don't even know what this movie is. I don't know why he wanted to make it. I virtually when it ended, I just went. I have no idea what he's trying to tell us with it. I have no idea what the point is, what the takeaway is. I have no idea why it took that long to arrive at this really kind of disastrous third act conclusion that I thought did not work at all. The movie just didn't work to me. I was very, very bored. My audience, it was a packed crowd, but we were not into it. There were groans when it ended. I don't think this is going to be a big hit. I do think this is geared toward particularly men. Spielberg's age, not our age, certainly not younger. You know, I don't really know folks like I we blocked off this episode to talk about this closure day, but we're going to spend a lot more time talking about Spielberg and his filmography. If you want to go see it, see it. If you think it's going to be anything like War of the worlds or even Close Encounters, it is not. It is not what I mean. What do you have to think about it? What do you say about it? About Disclosure Day or about my relationship with steel? Which which you can start if you go. I don't mind hearing your relationship and like how and if you grew up with him. Because I know you didn't see it until, I think, the history of this pod. So yeah, I'm a little interested to know, like your relationship with him. And then I guess my whole big speech was that he used to be one of my guys, and then he's just he's filmed himself out of being one of my guys. And I think many, many men in particular our age would like. If you are a movie fan, Spielberg is involved in some capacity based on one of the many unassailable masterpieces he has made, but that is not the same director we are dealing with now. Not to me. Well, yes, I agree, and I suppose when I say that he's not really one of my guys, even as a kid, there's only one movie, there's only one actual movie. That, because I feel like there is a big difference between our generation is very, very specific because we grew up, I would say if you were born in the 1980 and or maybe even a little bit before, but if you grew up as a kid with Steven Spielberg, that's a whole different type of relationship you have with this particular director, because the way that he made movies and the way the spectacle that you were talking about, there was no other person like him ever totally unmatched. And yes, it did not come into my life. So I was not a young I wasn't a kid when I saw E.T., which is a very, very quick essential child movie for our generation to have seen. But it's my first movie experience. I remember having that overwhelmed me and took over everything in my body that was Jurassic Park. So what you were saying about that? That's exactly true. I think I've seen that movie. I think my mom and I, she took me about eight times. You just you just went constantly like everyone did that I cannot. I know. Sorry to cut you off. I know people kind of have context to this now. No one had ever seen that level of special effects. You couldn't even tell. They looked like 100% real dinosaurs. The dinosaurs in 1993, Jurassic Park in the theater looked way more realistic than whatever the hell was in the latest Jurassic World from last year. Way more realistic, all of them. Even even going into this in Spielberg's second, The Lost World. I mean, I mean Jurassic Park, the original looks so amazing and it is just captivating from start to finish. Yeah, I remember that. And like as a kid, that movie like, turned me on to dinosaurs. I became like a huge nerd. I was I was learning about them all. I mean, and it's a crazy thing when you're a kid to watch a movie and then actually become so interested in a subject that you actually take your own, like interest to go and research and learn about all of that. That's my entire education. I my teachers. No teacher would like hearing this, but I learned so much more from self-teaching myself what I saw in movies than I did in education. And that's just truth. And, and, you know, and some of the other movies, you know, and this is a funny thing to say. I can't believe I'm saying this. I was never really a big Indiana Jones kid either. I oh, see, I didn't realize that. So we. Okay, we're shared here. Those were not around. I will get into him in the filmography. Those were never around my household. They were around mine all the time. And my mom, my uncle. Every kid that I knew, it was always about Indiana Jones. So I would watch these movies all the time. But here's my hot take. I'm going to give it to you right now. Oh, this is a big one. Do it. There's only a couple, a couple Steven Spielberg movies that I think for me, this I'm just talking to me personally, everybody. Because listen. He is a beloved director, and I, we are probably already talking sacrilege to so many people because, yes, we are just saying love. I'm just gonna. There's no way in hell anyone listening to this loves every single 35 features he's made. There is no change. My my my personal as Nick take is that, I have always sort of found his movies to be rough to get through as holes from start to finish. There's very few that keep me engaged, invested the whole entire time. Most of the time, especially when I was a kid, I would be waiting to get to the next big moment. Now, that being said, this is what I say to Steven Spielberg. There is nobody and I mean nobody. I don't even care. We can even talk about Scorsese. There is nobody that when they deliver a true cinematic moment, he's unparalleled. Like the like there are certain things that he has done in his lifetime that are just as memorable, iconic. They stay in your heart, they stay in your brain. And I'm talking about like, Raiders of the Lost Ark. Yes, you've got the whole entire beginning with the rolling Rock as a kid, that was how I would do it. I go, we're going to watch Raiders of the Lost Ark again. Okay, let's let's watch the beginning. And then we could we fast forward until we get to this same thing like Last Crusade. Can we just get to Sean? I like the River Phoenix a bit in the beginning, and then I'll be like, can we get to Sean Connery? Okay, then can we get to this part? Can we get to this part? But I still find as an adult, whenever I've seen these movies where I'm sort of like, can we get to that part next? Because everything else is going on here. It's not I don't want to use the word boring, because I don't think that that's the right word, but my interest does get put off to the shelf for quite a bit until we reach a new moment, and I'm waiting for the next Spielberg moment. Well, I really don't think that's a hot take, because I have notes in here for a lot of his movies that are the same thing that some of these movies really, I don't think are worth your time as a whole, but almost all of them, one in particular, I'll just mention here, Amistad. Like it gets made fun of a lot. It's isn't that that I didn't even remember this. That movie in the middle of the movie, kind of out of nowhere, has a pure, ingeniously staged, pure Spielberg in depiction of the Middle Passage about how these people were enslaved beginning in Africa, and then how they made the journey over here. I didn't even remember that was in the movie. And I'm going, that should be the whole movie. Like, I do not care about these old white guys in these courtrooms talking for 30 minutes. It does get a little boring. That should be your movie. But in almost every movie he's made, almost not all, including the most recent one, they have these, like set pieces that you can get to and that you can wait for. But yeah, yeah, as like start to finish movies there a lot of them Wayne a little bit like they, they do. But you are waiting for that next sequence that only one person alive could have made. That's the thing. That's his power. It is. And when they. And this is also the power of him, you know, me not being exactly a particular fan of, you know, kids in types of movies. When I saw E.T., I went into that movie begrudgingly because I was like, I have I made you watch this? You made you. Yeah. And and and dude, I was, I don't know, a few years ago I was so I was like 35 at least. And, I'll tell you what, man. Well, from the very beginning, I was terrified for the alien I loved. I fell in love with the alien. I wanted to protect the alien. This is a credit to speak, because I think this is a big part of what he is able to do is when he can really latch on to some of those very sort of primal but childlike fears or excitements. I mean, there's no other director that does it. And then when that fucking thing first takes off and they're flying is Christ, I, I remember sitting there in front of my TV, just a TV and just being like, I'm 35 years old and I have just been hit with movie magic slapped in the face. I have goosebumps right now. I am as emotional as it gets. And I go, This is Spielberg, this is Spielberg. Yeah. And and then we talked about this on our Saving Private Ryan commentary. We both, I think, have said that there may not be a finer piece of filmmaking period than the than the Normandy scene. They're like, one can make an easy argument that it is the best directed scene in the history of film. I myself may even make that argument. It's just that good. I rewatched that scene probably like 1010. That's an I rewatched that scene like five times just leading up to this episode, just to kind of. I watched a whole breakdown with Michael Kahn, the editor, and him talking about all the footage they had and like, how do you begin? Like, you just have to start. You just have to start and assembling it. And it's not only that he had all this footage like it was all perfect. It all just looked perfect. So yeah, I mean, that thing is beautiful staging horrific. It's just everything. And that he could have just made that sequence. That would be like he'd be one of the best directors of all time. Oh, yeah. Honestly. Yeah. His first just his first few movies, he could be considered that so. Yeah. So then how how have you gone on, let's say, like, since saving Private Ryan with his career. Since Saving Private Ryan. Lukewarm. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's good. Well, what we're talking about those big, like, set pieces. I really do think that stopped in 2005. I think that stopped with Munich. Munich is one that I, I've rewatched. I watched that last year just for no reason, just to put it on. And. All right, here it goes all minute. I read Steven Spielberg's made 35 feature films. How many of them did I rewatch for this episode? All but two. Oh, why? Because I just got a little carried away. Or two I don't like. I've seen one of them twice and one of them once. I don't have any reason to watch them again, but I rewatched all of them because a lot of them I had only seen once, they didn't do much for me. I was younger, but once you get past Munich, Munich is like does have some long dialog, slower parts, but those set pieces are so Hitchcockian at the moment. The girl on the phone and you gotta run and do this. That alley got home from work and it stopped her cold. She was like, what is this? This is brilliant. I go, I that's like hits and you don't even have to be have context for the movie. He can stop you cold. I don't see any of that after Munich. I mean, his movies have won Oscars. They've been nominated for Oscars. I can't think of any go for broke. Outstanding set piece. Again, people call out numbers in West Side Story. That's just not for me. Since in 20 years, in 20 years, I really can't call out like a notable set piece that I want to bring up on YouTube and watch. Like, it just it doesn't exist. That stops with Munich. It's really interesting. I mean, you know, he's getting he's older, he has a bunch of kids. He's always been a deeply sentimental filmmaker, always. But he has leaned so heavy into the sentimentality and I'm like, I just The Fabelmans he made for himself. It kind of feels like if he would have stopped making movies after there, after then and gone, you know, become just an elder statesman and doing all it like writing books or just talking, going on talks, restoring old movies that would have been appropriate. But this disclosure day and like him, you know, he's doing a bunch of popular podcasts. He's clearly trying to appeal to a younger, the younger generation. And he's it's just being hyped like it's this. He was really big in the press by saying that none of the materials, the trailer teasers, none of it features anything from the third act, none of it. First of all, that wasn't true because I called a few shots in the trailer that was from the third act. And second of all, when you set it up that way, you're making it seem like the third act is going to be this, I don't know, Close Encounters saving private E.T. thing. And it's not. It's just that was like the worst part of the movie. It I mean, my God, it I don't even know how to start, like, talking about it, like, the movie's about a dude who gets a bunch of, like, secret government shit secret government files, steals them, and wants to go to a new station to put them all for the world to see make broadcasting live. Emily Blunt, who works at the news station, becomes involved in this, and the whole movie is about like getting to a new station. And I'm like, right? And then when they get there, shit's going to pop off, right? Like, and then people are chasing them. I, I, you know, we talked about this, I think for the first time on the Megalopolis episode, when you're like, you're watching a movie by a director, you trust a director you have seen make masterpieces. So we're just waiting, like you're stringing us along, stringing it along. And I'm watching disclosure today going, okay, maybe we'll get an action scene or something. Some noteworthy scene, 20 minutes in, you know, little first act bump up maybe 45 minutes. And to kick off the second act. No. Maybe an hour. And to speed things up. Nope. Maybe 90 minutes in to kick off the third act? Nope. He does one thing with the train. One that any capable action director could do nowadays. It just reminded me of Mission Impossible, honestly. And I'm like, so this was it. This was just a bunch of talking and driving and military shit. I, I had problems from the beginning and the problems really only grew and they never and and in the end, I thought it was just a complete I mean, it made sense. It's not like difficult to comprehend. I just do not know why he made it. Well, I just don't get it. I, I kind of thought this wasn't going to be good right from the start. I don't know why it was. I mean, it started out with, with professional wrestling, which is I remember I sat there oh, that's right, I saw that and I was like, oh, he's gonna love this. This is cool wrestling. And I do, man. I don't know why, man. It's very, very difficult for me when I am presented with professional wrestling in cinema for me to actually look at what I'm seeing and enjoy it. This was one where I did not. It was just I was like, oh God, this is like and I go, and how much are they going to do with this? Like, what are like then then yeah, no, they didn't do anything with it. And I was like, oh, okay. This was just a backdrop for this. Weird. Like it doesn't even make sense. Like why wasn't why was he. Why they're here. If what? It seemed like he knew he was supposed to give this bag away in exchange for the girl, right? It. Why this weird setup in the crowd when you could just grab the bag? I don't know, and then. And then this was the thing that I think was a really big problem for me, was like, you get this handheld device that clearly does a lot of things, doesn't it? It really but what we won't know because the movie will never fully explain it. Yeah, that's a lot of things. It's so fucking stupid. And they hold like this piece of, I don't know, this thing in their hand and it glows and it. Oh my God. And and and yet everyone is scared of it. And everyone's like don't, don't hold it too hard. Oh, oh that's that's that's rule number one. Don't hold it too hard. And. Yes. And it has all this power and it does. Yeah. It does a lot of things. But for reasons that are never explained, we just go along with it and we're like, okay. And then even when it actually starts, when Colin Firth starts to do like a bunch of weird stuff with it, I was like, what are the rules? Like what? What are the rules? Like some of you are saying, you have to have gloves, some are you saying you don't? This doesn't make any sense. And yes, you're definitely going to explain this all to me later, right? No no, no. Like like it has mind control. It's got like hypnosis. You can, like, I don't know it. You can like, you can turn into somebody else. Maybe. I don't know, no one will. But here's one thing, though. There's one good thing I have to say about this movie. And that is solely Emily Blunt. Yeah. She delivers. She. They gave her a lot to do. It seemed like she was actually speaking those languages. She was. She was fine. I'm fine. I just became convinced in watching because I'm realizing that this movie is not very good. I picked up on this kind of quickly, and then I just sort of started to kind of watch Emily Blunt. Just thing that I felt emotionally, in any sort of way, came from her, the way that she handled every bit of her scenes. And I can't even imagine that she understood what was going on as an actor. But, you know, like the way that she would get lost in something, the way that she like, like all of a sudden she'd start to find out this, these, this information about people in their lives and all this or that, the way she would go from one person to another. I mean, she's literally in like a crazy, like, emotional kind of like train ride. And I believed every second of what she did. And it made me think that. I think she's one of those actors. It's sort of like Hugh Jackman there. There's nothing that they can't do. And there's there's no like, I believe her when she's in action. I believe her when she's in like Devil Wears Prada type things when she's supporting. I believe her when she's really grounded, I believe her. I believe her in everything. And I it just sort of dawned over me that I was like, this is how we talk about Amy Adams. This is how we talk about Jessica Chastain. Let's just add another like white girl redhead into the mix of just actresses. She redhead. Technically, I don't I don't know, she seems like she is. Maybe she's not, but but she just I, I was she's good, but she's not enough to make the movie worth it. No, not at all. That's what I know. No, not at all. So. Okay, you know Josh O'Connor, he's got all these, like, some drives of, you know, things to disclose. They never really even, like, fully. You get an idea of what's on them, but you never, like, fully get it where I started have a huge problem. Big one. And we're about 25 30 minutes in is when this is in the trailer. Like he makes such a big spectacle of like, I didn't believe any of this stuff either. Like we have to disclose it, aliens are here, blah blah, blah. And then I watched a video and now I'm going to show you that video. I'm like, okay, so you know, cuz up the video and she's sitting there, we see like five seconds of it. It's it's nothing. It's like an alien getting like probed in a hospital, like in a lab. This I'm not giving anything away. We don't even see the probing happen. Because when the probing happens and we start to hear the screeches and whatever she gets up from the computer walks away because it's so horrible to watch. He can't even listen to it again. He closes the laptop. So that's like eight seconds of footage that she's been disclosed with. And I'm watching this going, what, like an alien? Like in a in a hospital? We I can pull up something on Reddit right now that's going on across the world of like, people just getting like, children getting mowed down with machine guns. I mean, what that is the worst. This kicked off your whole adventure to go, like, disclose everything and maybe get yourself killed. What the fuck are we talking about? Like this isn't what? Beyond that, how much new alien should has come out in the real world like in the past five years? People like, you know, military. Yeah. Obama goes on podcasts. Oh yeah. Yeah. There. Oh, yeah. They give you information. They're out there. No one cares. No one cares in real life. Like no one gives a shit. No one's actually investigating this shit. Like no one cares. I don't know if this is the intention. I'm not even going to say the name. I'm not. Because this is not what this podcast is about. But there's a big list going on in the culture right now. Let us see the list. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. Yes, in America, let us see the list. The list, the let us see the files. The files. Open them up. There's thousands of documents. There's videos, there's pictures. So I'm watching this going, like, what if it's that? What if these are those files and he has all these videos and he's like trying so hoping. And he was trying to like get them to a new station and then they're going to unveil them okay. And like and then it just ends like it just it doesn't that I could understand more like the world does need to know that I didn't the conviction that all the characters had, I just didn't I, I don't know what they're thinking. Are there are they thinking, this is good, this is going to change humanity for the better? Are they thinking, this is bad? These people are dangerous for some God forsaken reason. The backdrop of this entire movie, I think we're on the verge of a war with North Korea, and that's like on the news. And they keep mentioning it and I'm like, just tell that fucking story. What, what? And it the whole thing, it just it was like nothing to me. I had no idea why. It was two hours and 20 minutes. It felt like an X-Files episode, but not even a good one. And I'm like, what? It really all of Disclosure Day felt like long first act, little bit of a second act movie done two hours and 20 minutes. Movie done. No payoff, no nothing. There's no rewards as you're watching it. Emily Blunt is good, but there's like there's just no like, building up tension and then releasing it. I mean, you mentioned Colin Firth, Jesus Christ, the decisions he makes towards the end of this movie are, are just they're so incoherent from a character level where I almost held up my hands and went, so the thing he's been working for his whole life, we're just going to literally sit this out. Yeah. Why? Why? Emily Blunt is trying to be a newscaster. She's trying to, like, she's the weather person she's trying to be to deliver news unveiled. They disclosed the files at her new station, but they cut to some damn reporter new York that we've never met, like giving all this information. I'm going. Your main characters right there. She wants to be a news reporter. Like, let her deliver. What the fuck is going on like this, doesn't it? Just didn't make any sense. He has his story credit. Spielberg does. Whenever he takes his story or screenplay credit. I really feel like we get into this sentimental stuff, and it felt like a kid who had a screenwriter, his best friend, and it's like, oh no, no, no, we should have that thing like, and they can grab it and hold it and it glows, and then they can, like, go wherever. Yeah. We need to give Emily Blunt more to do that. Oh, let's give her a wet blanket. Husband. Oh, yeah. Wyatt. Russell. Yeah, yeah. You know, my first movie was with Goldie Hawn. Yeah, yeah. Let's get Wyatt. Russell, will you have anything to do? No. Who cares? It was just a bunch of shit. He fucking shows her that footage, that alien probing footage. And she reacts like she's watching Night and fog. And I'm like, what? What is this? Just the whole thing. And I'm trying to be general about the ending, but, yeah, the whole thing, you know, the people remember this scene. This was the one where I almost fucking lost it because, God, because it's such a ridiculous thing that that took way too long. So it's the scene where Wyatt Russell and Emily Blunt are there in the car, and and she's been told by Coleman Domingo's character that she needs to get rid of her phone, so she she doesn't she. She she dumps it out the window, and then she and then she and then she tells y to, like, run it over, but he can't reverse. Yeah, but he can't on the first one. So she gets outside of the car, places the phone Neath the wheel. He rolls it over and rolls it over again with the second wheel. It's not really broke. So she just stops on it like once or twice and then throws it and I go, well that didn't do anything. You think like two car wheels going over it that just cracks like the, the like the. Yeah, you can still get the SIM card. Yeah. I was like and they spend like two minutes, two minutes on this bit and it's not really funny. So it's not exactly like a comedic like sort of like break that, that I think you would need one. But like I just I go, I go when it was all over she just threw it away. I go, why the fuck did we just see every two minutes? Just if you're just going to end up throwing it away, throw it away. This is like the fucking garlic scene in synods when we're, like, going around and I'm going. Why are you just doing this? To, like, make the audience laugh? This doesn't make any sense. I man, it was I. And then the other part of it too was when the girl that that when, when they get caught in the in the hotel and he gives her all that stuff, right, like he's like, whatever you do, for the love of God, don't look at it. Where the fuck does she go? She's gone. Exactly. She's gone. And like, she's so easily escapes, like all these inept fucking, like, cops throughout or whatever. They are military. They are like they are. They might as well be from Blues Brothers. They're just like dum dum dum dum dum. And and she just escapes from this log cabin, like easy peasy. And and she has all. And she. It seems like she has everything. That's what I was. I lost track of it a little bit because he gets it back. So I thought he gave her everything because that makes sense. Like he's about to get captured. Take it all. Go. Right? Right. But then he ultimately gets saved and they end up at the studio and he has some. And then she comes in conveniently with, like, the rest of it. So that's what that's how I read it. And I go, well, where did you put it? Like where did you have it? Did she? And because it doesn't make sense from where he starts, like loading those thumb drives up there where he has everything, I don't know, I was sort of like, and what did she do? Because it's clearly at least been like a day. How did she get to Kansas? How did she get to the news station? She wasn't exactly very like, you know, like he was the one helping her. I was like, she just like, there's a whole movie about how she has to get there. This. This is what I mean. Like, there are so many plot holes and things that are unexplained and things that are just done because they're convenient. And I guess they hope you don't notice. But this is two hours and 20 minutes. Like, I mean, really, the movie, like the last 20 minutes of this movie should have been the beginning. It should have been like the first act of something and then you start, but I so yeah, all these, all these little beats, there were so much of this stuff happening, including like, I really I'm not gonna stop mentioning the lens flares because as a cinematographer, I was going, I don't know what the hell you're trying to tell me with this. They are in every scene, even if it is extremely dark and you just have one little table lamp and that thing is beaming into our eyes, it's just so overdone. I think I know what it was, and I think it's as bad as a reason as it gets. I, I think they were just trying to make it look sci fi. Okay, then then that that is a terrible reason because when I rewatch West Side Story, they're all over that too. Everywhere. And that is not a sci fi. That's not his life. Flares. He has lens flares like the sun is bouncing off of a skyscraper and reflecting a lens flare back into the camera like they're crazy. I mean, he's doing and I mean, okay, make it look more Sci-Fi. I don't know, just very dumb and very frankly lazy to me. And then the I mean, a sci fi movie from the last ten years that I and most people adore is arrival. And I love that movie. And that movie, the one of the main conceits of it is you have to bring these two people together, because one person is a math genius and the other person is a genius with linguistics. And in order to be able to communicate with these beings, we need both of you that that like they just copy and pasted that into this movie, the Into Disclosure day. I mean it is they made some variations, but it's still like the man is the math guy and the woman is the linguist. Just like arrival. And I'm going. Do you think we haven't seen arrival like I. Yeah. Okay. Even still, it doesn't make sense because, like, we don't understand anything about why she is like, this weird vessel and and know that just they were chosen, I guess. And she looked at a bird's eyes and they're making and they're making her house. Yeah. They're look, she's looking at cardinals. And then there's all these. Yeah. That's right, they are. They're redoing her house and it's like, what? Just what? Why? Like we want to make her comfortable. What? Yeah. And they never explain that. The whole entire Coleman Domingo's whole entire performance in this movie. Man, I love Colman Domingo so much. I love it. Love. He just has nonsense to spew and he has to do it with such conviction. And after, like his third scene, I went, I don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're talking about, and I don't know why I should care. And and like, even the calendar goes to visit him and it's sort of like, oh, so no one's going to get arrested here. Like you're like, you're like the whole entire time. Colman Domingo is the background of Colman Domingo is like, he's in a studio building, some sort of prop house. And I remember thinking that I go, where the fuck is this guy right now? What? Why? Why is there all this crew moving a bunch of, like, walls and things? And then you've come to find that that he's building a replica of Emily Blunt House so that she can connect to what she needs to connect to. And then they do it. But then when it's over, I'm like, what did we connect to? What what what what revelation did anyone receive here? And then I just thought about like, why the hell was Colin Firth here? And like, if he was, if he knew that this was sort of like, okay, well, you need to put her into this situation because once she knows this, it's going to be like a huge thing. Why? If you were those guys, wouldn't you be like, tear this place down to everything's got to go? Well, that's that's what I mean. His character arc or lack thereof, it made no sense. And it is. It is just so stupid. If they knew that they were going to end up here, why not just be like, all right, boys, we're going to wait for him here. They're coming because they know they got to get here. So we're just going to set up shop and ambush them when they get here. That would have been the whole time. Why chase them and leave where you. Why is this like one? This one guy goes like rogue and is now on some like I'm going to kill him and chase him all over train. I'll tell you. Go rogue. I don't know anything. I know that guy. That guy is the only guy that stuck to his job. That's what that guy was. Because from the second, he's the only one that was sort of like, let's get after him. And then Colin first. Yeah. No, no, that's what I mean. His boss is like, yeah, whatever. But then he goes anyway and I'm like, yeah, what's the chain of command here? I mean, I don't know if there's one thing if there's anyone who actually had a singular soul sustained purpose that actually kept trying to see it all the way through, it was that guy. And but he. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a few we've touched on a lot of stuff. I've had a few notes here in the outline, like things to hit on, you know, cinematography. I've touched on it. I love Yamiche, but this was not for me. I felt this way for again, like two decades of Spielberg's work, music. We got John Williams. I didn't discern anything memorable. No, not that a single thing that I would be like, oh, man, look at that music. Swell right there. I didn't even notice for the spectacle parts of it, you know, I 35 features. This is his 35th. I looked it up. How many have not been nominated for Oscars? Just one nomination. Just one? There's only five. He's only made five movies that haven't been nominated for an Oscar. Those are really good stats. This 1st May join it because I mean visual effects. Okay, maybe, but I think we're going to have a way bigger of, you know, sample size of movies to deal with coming out sound maybe. But I and I that's just crazy. Like a big budget Steven Spielberg summer sci fi movie is probably I don't know how it's going to do financially. I can't imagine it's going to do good. This is not going to make more money than even obsession, which I saw again for the third time last night and it was awesome. I love that movie. I also saw Disclosure Day and fucking Imax because I thought they were at least going to blow it up and they didn't. It's just I hate this shit of like filmed for Imax. No it's not. You just filmed the regular movie. It's not filmed for Imax, so go see it if you want to see it. I talked to my dad yesterday. He was going to go see it and I went far be it for me to keep you from it. Like he. My dad liked West Side Story in The Fabelmans, so I went, I don't know, go, but I, I don't really know what the point is and I do. I did not walk away with anything. I had a ticket, a pre bought ticket to see it again, assuming maybe I'll like it. And I want to get two viewings in for the pod. That's what I turned in to go see obsession instead. Oh my god, that's pretty rare for me. That's crazy. Like I bailed on rewatching a Spielberg movie to go rewatch a tiny indie horror film that I had already seen twice. And that is the decision I made yesterday. I mean, I very well, I yes, I would do the exact same. Oh, obsession. We love it, I love it, Nick loves it. My dad loved it. Want to know what we think about it? Head over to Patreon.com. And sign up for What Are You Watching? Bonus features. We're having a great time over there, so that's Disclosure Day. I don't really have much more to say about it in terms of his filmography. I would not place it high at all. I would place it in one of the lower tiers. I think of his work. It's well intentioned. It is, it is, I think. I think it is like, I don't I don't I don't know, man, I don't know. But we're gonna end that discussion now, I think, and just move on to him because this is going to be fun to go and mention all of his movies. You can interrupt me whenever. If you've seen something and have an opinion on anything that I say, I'm just going to burn through the whole filmography because I've seen them all before. But rewatching them, it was fun. I have some new opinions. Some opinions aren't as harsh as they used to be, and like, I'm more forgiving of ones from the past now, and I'm even harder on the ones from this the last two decades. Because I don't know, it's just I don't think there is. Good. You ready? You ready for this? Oh I'm ready. I'm going to tie myself. Yeah, I'm. He says he can do this in ten minutes, folks. He says actually, this will take much less than someone to interrupt. I'm going to sit back and I'm just going to let you. You paint this world for me. Stevie. Stevie. All right. Stevie, Spielberg. I'm not even going to go into any background because we all we all know who he is, what it's about. He starts making movies really young, you know, sneaks on to Warner Brothers. Lots. All this stuff. His first like thing. Big thing is a TV movie called dual. May 1971. This is a fantastic debut. It technically premiered as a 74 minute movie of the week on TV, but he released it a few years later as a 90 minute feature film. Theatrically, he released it. I bought the 4K for this viewing. It looks and sounds fantastic. It is very well made, easy, scary, fun. You absolutely see early Spielberg flourishes here like Nettie. That triple cut of him boom boom boom, right? Like right before he and his friends go up away from the cops. That's in duel, this triple cup boom boom boom. Just a truck driver chasing the dude around and like California because he pissed him off like road rage. That's it. That's the whole movie. It's like, you know, if you've ever seen joyride, it's. Yeah. Joyride clearly took a lot of influence from Dual Fun Movie, his first official feature, 1974 The Sugarland Express, based on a true story. It's basically one long car chase. A husband and wife, Goldie Hawn and William Atherton are a couple on the run. Ben Johnson is chasing them. He had just where he's like trying to deal with them, negotiate with them. He had just won an Oscar for The Last Picture Show. Fun movie, had only seen it once. Rewatched it this morning. Fun 1975. His second feature film, I counted duel as one of his 35 features, so I'll call jaws his third. Or yeah, it's jaws is his third movie that he ever made. Have you heard of it? Second, second official feature. It's crazy. He was 29 when it was released. He famously, quite famously, did not get nominated for Best Director. The clip funny clip on YouTube. Go look it up. But that's that's jaws. It kind of changed cinema. Perhaps you've heard of it. 1977. He goes personal, sentimental and writes Close Encounters of the Third Kind gets his first Best Director nomination. His first time as a screenwriter doesn't do that often. 1979 Big Swing, 1941. It's a pretty big bomb. Not financially. Critics don't really like it. Audiences don't get it. It's a spoof that is turned into a cult classic. I recommend giving it another chance. The Director's Cut, which is a half hour longer, works well as a radically over-the-top studio spoof, but for his reputation is hit hard. So 1981 teams, together with his pal George Lucas, they make Raiders of the Lost Ark. I'm going to I'm just going to preempt this right now. You already kind of did. I'm just going to. These were never my movies. They just weren't around. Action adventure was not a job in my household. They just. So I did have a few friends that loved them, but I did not see Raiders of the Lost Ark. I'm. I'm saying I was in college like, I they just weren't a part of my life at all. So I didn't even see these until then. However, everything in this movie works. Everything clicks. It is movie magic. It's an uncontested classic. Even folks like myself who have a mild allergy to the logic of action adventure films. It still works. It's just so impressive. He gets another Best Director nomination. The next movie 1982 ET the Extra-Terrestrial all timer. This is as good as movies get gets its classic, makes a ton of money, gets another Best Director nomination. Not a feature film, but in 1983, he has one vignette, one segment of Twilight Zone The Movie. He had a horrible time making it based on what had happened earlier on production. It's I'm still really, really surprised they even went ahead and finished that movie and released it, noting all that his chapter is the weakest of the four, and he would agree he did not have fun making it similarly to 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. He's admitted after that, he and Lucas were both in bad head spaces. Lucas was going through a divorce. This movie's batshit crazy. I, I actually can't believe they got to make it this way, because it contains rather graphic depictions of men having their hearts ripped from their chests, people burning alive, child enslavement. The PG 13 rating exists because of this movie. The MPAA had to basically create it after this movie and the Steven Spielberg produced Gremlins, they pushed it too far and they're like, this shit cannot be PG. But we agree it doesn't need to be R. It's my favorite of all three of them. Or five of them, I guess. Technically. Me too. Yeah, it is my favorite of the franchise too. I think everything in the Temple of Doom inside that actual temple is the best of anything else in the series, and it is nuts. I actually couldn't believe it. Rewatching is there whipping that kid? They're whipping poor Kiwi Kiwi Kwan. You know, I was like, Jesus, this movie is crazy. Like this movie does. Nuts. There's monkey brains, there's a closing dungeon full of crazy bugs. I mean, it's literally it's it's fantastic. It's fantastic. It is. And even the opening scene is just a complete, like just it's so ridiculous, but fun. It's just really fun. Yeah. I mean, it's there's actually a really good, like, Busby Berkeley dance number in the very beginning of it that the fucking the action movie action venture logic I'm talking about like when they jump out of that plane and they're just falling through the sky, and he just grabs a life raft and inflates it in the air. They just glide that fucking out all the way to like, the Alps. I'm going. What? What is this like? This is. But it's batshit. It's it's definitely the most batshit of all of them. But I again, I rewatched it for this and was happy that I enjoyed it more than I ever had before. Another one I rewatched, I only seen it once 1985 The Color Purple. Spielberg goes serious. It's a big deal. Pulitzer Prize winning novel. Extremely difficult subject material, well made, well-intentioned film, but the content is just so unpleasant for me. The movie garners controversy, makes money. Spielberg wins the Directors Guild Award for best director. The movie is nominated for 11 Oscars, but it is not nominated for Best Director, and that is a huge snub. Moreover, the movie wins zero Academy Awards, still tying the record for a movie with the most nominations and no wins. Turning point in 1977 is the other one. Wow. 1987 Empire the Sun. He tries to go serious again. Serious war film. Well-made, well-intentioned, but long and not very rewatchable. I had seen it. I bought the DVD, I don't know, two decades ago. Watch it once. Watch it again for this box office. It does. Okay, get some below the line Oscar names, but no one really talks about this movie. Even still today, the only reason it gets talked about is that it stars a very young, very good Christian Bale. And he is. He already has it. He has it in 1987. It is there. But when I watch Empire the Sun now, it feels like Spielberg getting his reps in before Schindler's List. Because there's there's an encampment, barbed wire, the way things are shot. I can see him practicing before he gets it 100% right. 1989 is the first of many times he does something crazy. He releases a popular summer family friendly popcorn movie in the summer, and then a drama in the winter. The first up is Indiana Jones in The Last Crusade. This is the fun one. This is the light one. This feels like a direct sequel to the first one, more than the third film of a trilogy, the chemistry between Harrison Ford and Sean Connery. That's why you watch it might be one of the most fun, dynamic duo performances of all time. Like when you look at, they really nail it. Yeah, there. You can't take your eyes off either of them. They're so funny. They're so it's really I mean, that would actually be a really fun pod episode, like top ten, like duos in like, like two actors that just have like, the best chemistry together. And that's the whole point of the movie, is to watch the ride with watching these two. That would be in that conversation. Johnny and Bodie. Johnny Utah. Yeah, that's it would be in there, too. Bodie, his other film of 1989, always, which everyone has seen ten times. Just kidding. This is probably yes, I put it on for the first half hour when I woke up today. Wow. I've been I've been trolling Nick to watch it because it's on Netflix. Always in Schindler's List. So the only Spielberg movies on Netflix right now, this is probably the movie Spielberg, the Spielberg movie. People talk about the least. It is a remake of a beloved 1940s film. A Guy named Joe always reunites Spielberg with Richard. Dreyfuss also costars Holly Hunter and John Goodman, and contains contains Audrey Hepburn. Final performance. It is not a terrible movie. Dreyfus, Hunter and Goodman are pilots who fight forest fires, and Spielberg shoots the shit out of the first 20 minutes of the movie like it's, you know, he's got raging fires going on the opening shot of the movie. He's actually really cool with the two old dudes fishing in the lake, and that huge plane comes way, way, way in the background. They must have shot that on like a 2000 millimeter lens. But really, those plane scenes kind of reminded me of Oppenheimer when Oppy is imagining himself in the cockpit and the missiles are like going by them. I'm like that. They shot this the same practical way, and there's a banger scene toward the end, too. But then, like the rest of the movie, the kind of after the Danish Mall is sentimental did not for me. But it's not. It's just it's the least scene film, the least log on letterbox. But it's just not terrible. I'm glad you gave it a shot. At least 20 minutes of it. Half hour. I appreciate your subtle French accent for denouement coming out top two 1991. This is probably of like in order the movie that becomes the first movie like of my lifetime that's being released in order. I already knew about E.T., but 1990 one's hook. I think this is true for damn near every Steven Spielberg film. I'm sure someone listening to this or someone out there hook is their favorite Spielberg movie. Oh yeah. Not mine. I remember thinking that when I was a kid, I tried just out of for for no reason, just because I wanted to. And I actually texted you last year. I was like, I'm about to watch hook. I think for the first time in 25 years, man, I mean, a slog to get through. I really, really fan. Oh, not at all. And then come to find out, this is least favorite film of his that he's made, he does not think it works. He thinks. And he's right. It's just so I mean, you get the beginning and it's like, oh, you know, the minimal and all this. And then they go to never Never Land and it's just everything. So like maximalist. He's a very maximalist director. But you really see it here for like there's just too many costumes, too many props, too small to contain space. It probably it made me work. Now, if you had like digital effects or something there, I mean, there are things I like Dustin Hoffman and of course I grew up with, you know, look, you look, I got hokey the, the food fight thing when they're all imagining like there are, again, maybe some sequences, but no, as a whole movie like you mentioned in the beginning does not work for me as a whole movie start to finish, slog to me. All right, all right, all right. Play it cool. Hot shot. This is really the only time in his career where the bang bang of two films in one year works, and not only does it work, it changes. History 1993 Summer Jurassic Park waited in line for hours and hours and hours. It takes the world by absolute storm. Everyone sees it, everyone likes it. And then a few months later, he releases Schindler's List. I don't mean to laugh when I say that. It's just it's crazy year. I mean, it's just months. It's Schindler's List is insane. He started filming that in the beginning of 1993, like in 93, filmed, edited, and it is released and it wins all these Oscars. He did that in a year with Jurassic Park and being the effects being worked on. He's editing or he's filming Schindler's List, and after every day he's watching cuts of Jurassic Park like it's nuts. It's that creative output, and he's done this a lot in his career. This is the only time it really works. 1993 Oscars are insane. Schindler's List and Jurassic Park went dominate. They went ten Oscars total. There's winning everything, and he finally wins Best Director, deservedly so. Schindler's list is a miracle of a movie. I've. I've mentioned it before a few episodes ago that this is a film I've revisited often. I revisited it twice just for this episode. I cannot believe he he did that. I cannot believe at how effective and how that movie is rewatchable, despite the hard it is. It is. It moves very, very well. That's his 1993. It's insane. Takes four years off the biggest gap of his career up until now. In between Fabelmans and Disclosure Days, for years, he only ever done that once before, after Schindler's List. What's his next movie? That's right, The Lost World, Jurassic Park, let's go comes back with this. He has said since that he also regrets making this, and basically the only reason he made it was because he didn't want anyone else to make a Jurassic Park movie. And look how that turned out. Wow. Yeah, that worked out really well. Again, some good set pieces, but every time I rewatched this one, it just gets slower and slower and it's, you know, it. Nowhere near contains the power of its predecessor. Also in 97, he's trying to bang bang again. He has the the fall in the fall winter movie with Amistad, another movie whose heart is in the right place, but I think it focuses on the wrong areas. He has since agreed, saying he was the wrong director to make it. Yeah, it just when it focuses on the people that I care about, the movie is strong. When it focuses on Matthew McConaughey and Anthony Hopkins, I lose, I lose interest quickly. But again, two, two movies in a year, that's twice he's done this 93 boom boom 97 three times because he did an 89. 1998 Saving Private Ryan makes war movie history, wins his second best director Oscar very famously does not win Best Picture, but it's Saving Private Ryan changes. He has changed the art form yet again. Every war movie made since then owes a debt to Saving Private Ryan, and they know it. 2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence. We've talked about this movie once on the pod, when we did our Stanley Kubrick pod. I you know, I enjoyed this movie when it came out. I was young when I saw it, when I had not seen it for about 15 years. When we when we rewatched it, you hadn't seen it before it. When I rewatched it for the Kubrick pod, I did not really like it at all, and I was really surprised at my about face on it. I'm a little kinder to it now. I think it's like the first 50 minutes. They're like, okay, I get it. Like set up. Okay. Then it's like 30 minutes of like danger, Jude Law, that stuff and then the back 50 minutes. Are we just get into sentimental hogwash for me and I just don't care. I tried, I really have and I know you're not a fan. No, but there are people listening to this and people out there. I saw at least three lists when of top 25 films of the century so far. Yes, three independent lists that had this at number one numbers were not like these were big publications. Yes, they were particularly men of our age or little older, seemed to be latching onto something that I can't really see. That's there, I get it. There are some implications of it that are unsettling of the movie. There are, and I think people like that. And oh no, you're not seeing like the danger and the sadness and I'm like, oh, I see it. I just, I just don't really care. I'm sorry. I just don't know. I and this is usually something where our particular tastes, we tend to kind of divulge a little bit in these types of areas when it comes to sometimes I could like a movie for the exact reasons that you're talking about where you're like, yeah, I get it. But yeah, I don't care. This is one where we are aligned, because I see those exact same things too with this movie. And it's weird for me because normally I kind of dig all that stuff. And then this is one where I'm like, Yeah. Made it for his friend Stanley Kubrick, who had died a few years earlier. Kubrick had always wanted to make this movie, but wanted to be able to use real robots. Fucking Kubrick technology never got there. Coover got I love him 2000. Another Bang Bang 2002 Minority Report is the summer film with Tom cruise, the future Washington DC Max von Sydow. It's a fun sci fi flick. He's getting the photography is getting crazy now. He's doing the exposed hot white light like he's a bleach bypass. That movie's wild. I bought it on 4K, though I like it. It is not. Not all 2.5 hours or compelling. I'm not on the edge of my seat for all 2.5 hours, so I'm agreeing with the thing you said. His other his Winter 2002 film Catch Me If You Can. My favorite thing about this movie is that it is all bullshit. The entire thing. They're the real Frank Abigail, not Abby. Gnarly hustled everyone, even speed or even Spielberg. To a degree, I was. I was always surprised this didn't have a better showing at the 2002 Oscars. It got one one, or rather, both films didn't have a better showing. One technical nomination for Minority Report, two for Catch Me If You Can. That's it. But yeah, I mean, it's hilarious to me that after that movie came out, I guess somewhat recently, it's just been admitted that, like, he just made it all up. So like, it's all bullshit. So when I rewatch it now, I'm more thinking about like, Frank Abigail, just like sitting in his room thinking of these schemes, but never actually doing them or trying to do them, but them not working. 2004 The Terminal. I like this a little more at the time, but watching it now there, there are virtually no stakes to it. It's just all very high concepts, kind of lowbrow, maximalist art. It has its moments, but I don't really care about any of the characters. And there is a romance between Zoe Saldana and Diego Luna that has never made a lick of sense to me. It does not make sense. These people just fall in love. But it is so. And then they just get married like it is so stupid. It is so, so stupid. Movies and ending that goes really is not worth it to me. Movie goes nowhere. I mean, again, it's like a fun, bright, breezy, easy movie that I guess I liked better. Better in the theater. Just didn't really. The whole thing didn't hold up that well for me. 2005. Another bang bang. First with War of the Worlds Brewing. That's truly one of the meanest alien invasion movies ever. I am serious, it wisely does not have the scale of something like Independence Day. I think it's even scarier than Independence Day, because it's so much more personal, and that the first hour of War of the worlds fantastic action. I love the first hour of that movie, gets into issues as soon as that dipshit son runs off to join. What runs off to join the military makes no sense to bring Tim Robinson and it completely falls apart. It does. It just I it's it's the back hour of that movie is real rough because I think the first hour is so strong. His second 1 in 2005 Munich. Spielberg goes serious again. It's good, but long. It's still, I mean, there are whole conversations in this movie that are that you hear. I could hear yesterday on the news. It is so topical and so pertinent. But, you know, the set pieces are great. And then I just think the movie's done once they've killed their last victim. And then there is like 30, 45 minutes left of him back at home. It does not work. It is a mess. It has one of the most baffling out of their sex scenes I have ever seen. Steelwork does not do sex scenes. It it makes no sense. It's like there's a hose coming off of Eric Barney's head. Just the amount of sweat. And I'm going, who would enjoy like, it makes no sense. It is so, so stupid. It is so dumb. With the movie filled of so much like important strong content still gets a nomination for Best Director. Then things really have fallen apart for me after 2005 2008. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull. I think this is the worst movie Steven Spielberg has made. Does absolutely nothing for me. Salt, once in the theater, saw just a few years ago when I rewatched every Indiana Jones movie. Can't do it. I just, I just it's just money. It's money. I almost walked out of the theater after the very first scene. Yeah, terrible. Here is the last and maybe the weakest in my opinion. Bang bang of his career 2011 starts with The Adventures of Tintin. Watch it for the first time for this episode, I get it. Not for me. 2011 War horse. Yeah, horse. War rivals Crystal skull as the least essential movie of Spielberg's career. I would say this is my second least favorite film he has made. I have only seen it once. I will not find a reason to see it again. People were just on a horse kick back then. Seabiscuit. Hidalgo. Dreamer. Secretariat. This movie was nominated for Best Picture. I don't know why. Oh no wait, I know exactly why. Because they allowed up to ten nominees for junk like this. Now this movie is just stupid. I don't get it at all. I don't even know why he wanted to make it truly 2012 Lincoln fine film. It does get a little better every time I watch it. It is quite wordy, obviously, but all time or Daniel Day-Lewis performance, you just totally unassailable. He makes history by becoming the first person to win. First actor to win three best actor Oscars. Spielberg is nominated for Best Director, but more notably, this is kind of baffling. Dell's win marks the first time an actor wins in Oscar for a Steven Spielberg movie. It never happened before, I don't know. Wow. 2015 British spies I only saw this once before. I was happy to revisit it for this episode. The Coen brothers are credited on the script and the dialog has their sense of humor. Tom Hanks is actually. I didn't remember him being funny in it. Like he's funny. Yeah, he's funny. He's he's a little cranky. He's tired, he has a cold. He's over it. It's the movie's a tad long. It's two hours and 20 minutes. My favorite thing to talk about with this movie is Best Supporting Actor, because it was wild this year. This is the first Oscars. You what? I watched together in my tiny apartment in Loma Linda. Were sitting there watching it. Well, first of all, best Best Supporting Actor was crazy in the lead up. So that's their salon wins. So the supporting actor Golden Globe for Creed, Idris Elba wins the SAG for beasts of the Southern Wild. Beasts of the Southern Wild knows how it was called. Yeah, yeah it was. Yeah. Was it? Yeah. No it wasn't. Yes, it was. Beast beasts, beasts of no nation. I typed that wrong. No. Beast of the wild was like that really tiny one where the director got nominated in 2012. Okay, so no wrong. So sorry. Idris Elba wins the Screen Actors Guild supporting actor for Beasts of No Nation. Here are nominees for the Oscar. Idris wasn't even nominated. Yeah, here are the nominees Christian Bale, the big Short. That probably could have been the Elba nomination. Honestly. Tom Hardy for The Revenant, the payoffs who I would have wanted to win. Mark Ruffalo for spotlight, a sleeper favorite to win. Sylvester Stallone for Creed. The odds out by far. Odds out favorite to win. And then this guy not a lot of people have heard of called Mark Rylance for Bridges Spies, and I think he was ranked last in terms of probability to win. The envelope opens and the Oscar goes to Mark strong. Nope. Rylance this is a crazy win. It is so awkward to watch because I think it's Patricia Arquette reading it. And she goes, Mark. And you see Ruffalo like you see his little box going, oh wow. And then when it's not him, he's like, oh, it's Stallone's, just like, yep, yep. Stallone kind of famously left the ceremony after that because he didn't win anyway. Okay, that's Bridget Spies 2016 the BFG. Watch it for the first time for this episode. I get it, not for me. 2017. The post only saw it once before in the theater. Bought the $5 DVD for this episode. I was bummed to find that my opinion hadn't changed. I'm not the first person to make this claim, but when you watch the post, you're just watching stuff happen. When you watch All the President's Men, you are an active participant in this story. They are investigating. All the President's Men is about two Washington Post reporters who broke open Watergate. The post is about the Washington Post revealing the Pentagon Papers, but it is also about female leadership in the workplace, taking a private company public. Whether The Washington Post can beat the New York Times to break a story, there's just way too much going on, and certainly not enough of the nitty gritty journalism stuff that I love in All The President's Men. That movie, in part inspired me to go to journalism school, and I don't. I would be stunned if the post did that for anyone, ever. And yeah, and Tom Hanks, I mean, you know, damn it, I love you, I love him, I know how much he loves Ben Bradlee, but the characterization he gives him in this movie does not contain one tenth of the authority of Jason Robards performance of the same man 40 years earlier. It's man. It's kind of a myth of a Hanks performance to me. I just I really don't think that movie works, unfortunately. 2018 Ready Player One I get it. Not for me. A monster hit makes a ton of money. I get it very, very high maximalist art, reliant on so much popular IP. It is very loud. It is very green screen. It just feels kind of soulless. I actually saw this, a friend of the pod tailor in the theater because he liked the book and it read that, and I think in the theater it was because it was so much it was like, okay, we're here. Like, we can't do anything else. We just sit with this like assault of the senses at home. When I'm watching something that feels like Transformers meets Marvel meets a video game, I tune out. I tried to rewatch it for this, and the whole movie feels like you're just watching someone play a video game. Not for me, I think that I think that's what people there's just very popular a lot of people like. Yeah. And I think for that reason. 2021 West Side Story, not a lot of people were going to the movies in 2021, but West Side Story is one of the biggest bombs in modern Hollywood. It tanked. Huge flop $100 million budget. It makes 76 million worldwide. This is the only Steven Spielberg movie to not make its money back. Even always made its money back. West Side Story is the only one still nominated for Best Director. Ariana DuBose becomes the third person to win an Oscar for being in a Spielberg movie. People who love it, love it, tried to watch it again. Not for me. Same thing with The Fabelmans 2022. This is the only time he's nominated for Best Picture, director and screenplay. Very autobiographical film, entirely too sentimental for me. I tried again just three days ago. Call me crazy. It's kind of what you said about professional wrestling as I was this kid growing up. Not only was I obsessed with movies growing up, I was obsessed with a Steven Spielberg movie growing up, noting that it is not very enjoyable to watch movies about young kids who love movies, and it is not enjoyable at all to watch movies about young kids editing movies. It's just not. I was that kid, I did that, I, I just, I will, I will in part love it forever for its final scene because it is a wonderful love letter to David Lynch and his memory, and I really, really love that. But I can watch that on YouTube. I don't need the context of the whole movie. Feature 35 2026 is Disclosure Day, which is what we're talking about here. That took me about 25 minutes, but I was going to say you lost your bet, Hoss. I bet you shit. Well, you bet yourself. And when you put yourself out there like that, it's a bet. And you do that to myself every day. I know all about that. I know one can disappoint me more than myself, believe me. But I still think people hopefully enjoyed that. I was going to say you may not have taken less than ten minutes, but I was compelled every second of the way. Oh thank you. Yeah. If you waited for the compliment. Jesus. Well, they're so rare. What? I always tell you how great you do. You don't get my Halloween take. It's not a take, by the way. I gave that take to someone else, and they thought it was hilarious and that we should do it. I bet you, Paul, shut up and didn't ramble for 45 minutes saying, well, I mean, that's the only way I kind of know how to do it. But I got the point across and they thought it was hilarious. Least log. I'm going to do a few other things for you. Get to the top ten. John Kline loves it. He's he loves pretty much everything that we say. And for that he is a wonderful and gracious man. Well, yes, he is with all my heart. But he he he he appreciates. There's dozens of us, okay? Dozens. I said his least popular, least log movie on letterbox was always. Would you like to guess his most popular? I'll give you a hint. It's. You like it, but it's not what you're expecting. Oh. Jaws. Right. Jaws, Jurassic Park, catch me if you can. Most log movie on letterbox. That probably gives you an indication of the median age of letterbox. But I said he's written. He's taken five screenplay or story credits Sugarland Express, Close Encounters, A.I., The Fabelmans, and Disclosure Day ratings. Every single movie he made until The Color Purple was PG. The Color Purple is his first PG 13 movie. He has only made four R-rated movies out of 35. Those are Schindler's List, Amsterdam, Saving Private Ryan, and Munich. Only five movies he has made have not been nominated for an Oscar, and a few of these are kind of baffling. The Sugarland Express I get that. Not nominated? Fine. Always. I guess I get that to not nominated. Fine. The terminal surprise me because they built that whole damn airport, so production design seems like a gimme just for a nomination. Kingdom of the Crystal skull. Not surprising. And then the BFG. I thought like some visual effects award. Like the visual effects were good. I was surprised I wasn't nominated either. Anyway, just thought I mentioned that his five most expensive movies number five, Disclosure Day 115 million. And I could not tell you why it costs 115 million. Genuinely couldn't tell you why. Number four were the worlds War of the worlds. I can tell you why that costs 132 million. Adventures of Tintin is number three fully animated? It's $135 million budget. Ready Player One, number two, $175 million budget. I get that $185 million budget went to number one. Kingdom of the Crystal skull. Oh my God. Oh, spend a lot. And you may may have made money, but the profit margin wasn't. Couldn't have been that high. Here are his biggest grocers. I'll just do five. Number five. Ready player one 607 million. Number four. Lost world. Jurassic Park 618 million. Number three. Kingdom of the Crystal skull 786 million. But again, that's not that big of a profit margin on $185 million budget and maybe 100 million more for advertising. Number two, E.T. worldwide total gross with rereleases and all that. Seven, nine, 7 million. And number one, Jurassic Park was 1.1 billion in grosses. That's crazy. Yeah, because they rerelease it and people see it. I go see it, I saw it, yeah, yeah. Cool. So that's, you know, just some general Spielberg thoughts. And the only thing I'm going to say as I set up our top tens, my top ten, I'm just getting this out of the way now I usually don't do this. There is no Indiana Jones mentioned. And I'm just this is who I am. I can't I'm not saying that Raiders of the Lost Ark is like a worse movie than the movies I'm going to list. I'm not saying that people are going to hear my number ten, and this is why I'm preempting it, because I don't want people to hear my number ten and go, all right, this guy is out of his mind. There's no way this movie is better than Raiders of the Lost Ark. It isn't. It isn't better. I'm just. I'm just flat out saying that my number nine. I have huge issue issues with, like. Like, I don't think the entire movie is good, but I think aspects of it are good, but I just I'm just preemptively saying, you're not going to hear any Indiana Jones I movies. I do respect the first two. I do like Temple of Doom. If one was going to make my list, that would have been here. I'm not taking anything away from them, but they just they weren't a part of my life. They never have been and and and all. And I'll say it was hard to it was hard to make a top ten. Oh yeah. Well I'm not. No, because I'm not really. You know what's fair? I was actually I was actually going to ask you, do you have ten or do you just want to do five or do you want. No. Because, because I think I think there's an interesting I think there's an interesting six. Yeah. I'm cool with my top eight. The first two though. Yeah. Like I did stretch a little bit. I did a draft where I had Raiders of the Lost Ark in here because it makes sense. Like I love movies, you know, more than anything. And this huge movie buff, like, why don't I have that? And I looked at the list and I went the my number one rule for my list. You don't have this problem at all because you look at lists differently. I have to be true to myself. You're trying to be true to whoever the hell else. No, I just at one time. And it was a big mistake. It was the biggest list of this podcast history. Yes. It was. I understand it if I was making a list privately, a private letterbox list, I wouldn't have Indiana Jones on there. And I'm not going to lie to people and like, try to say no. Yeah, it's on here because like I like it more now you're getting a me list. But yeah, like I could have this list. Could have been a top eight for me and I would have been satisfied. But yeah it's fair to do ten. Yeah I agree I had to struggle to kind of put ones in here. So that but yes, this is a me list. All right. God damn it. Well, that that's good. That's the point. So you're going to start with ten and then we'll go round robin back and forth. All right. How. Well wait wait wait wait. Oh how many were you gonna have in common. Oh we always do this. Oh, this. Yeah. I think we'll have quite a bit. I do placement, we never count placement. Placement? Think actually, we might have eight I think we, I think I think we're yeah, I think we're going to be pulling from the same list of movies, honestly. And I do and I can say I do have two Indiana Jones in my no. That's yeah that's fine. Of course, I think just about anyone I've seen all of these movies. I know you haven't. That's fine. That doesn't matter. Like, you don't need to see always because it's not going to make your list. The ones that I haven't seen, I don't think. Yeah, like like the always is one of them I, I didn't see the post that was like one, two. That's what I mean. Yeah. And yeah. And like and warhorse those are like the three that were on the like I was looking through the list. I was like okay. Those are three that I really haven't seen. And I just knowing you, I can promise you none of those would scratch the surface of a top ten for you. So yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. I think we're going to be going from the same kind of sample size, but all right, here we go. Top ten. All right. Top number ten. And you've said it when you were given the breakdown for it. But I completely agree that the first hour of this movie is absolutely fantastic. And that is War of the worlds. Wow. I, I love it I love that I'm putting it in here because of how good that first hour is. I'll jump ahead. This is this is my number nine. So I'll just jump into that because because I did see that up when I said like my number nine like I. Yes, I totally agree with you. Like yes, the first hour is great. It is. There's a very clear cut point. It is directly when Robbie goes off and joins them, if that makes no sense. His whole thing of like, I'm going to go join them. And then especially Spielberg has an issue with third, his not even third act with the day new mall sometimes which is just like including just a little too much. And this one every. If you're going to criticize this movie, a lot of the criticisms come in the third act. Like the only time anyone has anything critical to say about Saving Private Ryan is, tell me I've been a good husband. Tell me like that's so he can kind of tack some stuff on. And you're like, Lincoln is the biggest betrayer of this because you have such a good cut point of him walking away. And then they show it's ridiculous how that movie ends. But yeah, War of the worlds first. Our love it bought the 4K for this. Looks fantastic. Yeah, it's almost as as egregious as, you know, his input for the end of twisters, but that's a whole other story. And I don't want to rile you up. But one thing I'll say about where the worlds is that I'm still waiting for a really, in my opinion, I think the idea of aliens coming down and attacking us and doing all of this arrival is the only movie that I can actually look at and be like, I like this from top to finish, start there. Well, that's because they don't attack us in arrival. Well, I know, but that's right. They're here to chill. But like if you're looking at that idea. Right, like the Independence Day idea, you know, that idea that, you know, like these aliens come out of nowhere, they're here. And then it's a fight against us versus them. I still don't think there's ever been a movie that's actually done this right in my taste. I'm waiting, and I don't know what I'm waiting for. I don't really have an end idea to how this goes, but any I'm always fascinated by this idea, and every time I go and see a movie, I'm always like, yeah, I didn't really turn out the way I think I might have wanted. But anyways, yeah, this is probably my favorite first act of any alien invasion type situation like that. Yeah, I agree actually. When I was watching the 4K, I just got this thing in my head and I'm like, is this my favorite alien invasion movie? Like, yeah, how many actually good movies are there about aliens coming here to fuck us up at Soul Point? Thought of like, Independence Day and you think of some others, but you're like. Like invasion of the Body Snatchers is sort of right. But that does not have spectacle at all. That just cool, like, terrifying. But there's no spectacle. I'm talking like the spectacle stuff. It I it might be more of the word. I mean that first attack when he's running from them, I think might be the best alien attack in all of film. It is fucking terrifying. He is fantastic cruise in that he is so good. But then again, you get the stuff that makes no sense. Like he gets home and the kids are so unaware of anything that's going on and I'm like, you would hit. There were cars blowing up like a block away. Buildings were going down. They would hear it. Trust me, it's so speed. And they're like, what's going on, dad? Why do you look like that? You would hear it. Cars are loud when they're flipped over. Like when you hear it. Stevie. God, Steve. Good. Okay, so that's your number ten. Good. Good pick then. Number nine is. No, I gotta go. I haven't done my number two. Oh, yes. You're not just burning through. Oh he's genuine folks. He took it. He leaned back and bit his lip. Number ten. God. I'm serious. I bought the Blu ray for this. I watched the director's cut. I was absolutely dumbfounded at how much I was genuinely laughing out loud. During 1941. I was laughing so much, and so often I went, I'm just going to put it on. I'm going to put it at number ten just to see if it holds. And it does. This is imperfect by a large margin. I'm going to talk about it a little more later. But yes, I'm not I'm not being a troll. Like I think if people gave this another chance, it's, you know, there's a lot going on in it that I think you and I like the big swing this of I mean, there's Babylon in here, like it's huge. There's just so you know what it reminds me of? It's Spielberg's New York, New York. It like it's says he did where you're doing like, everything and you have all this control because of your success and because of that, it just doesn't fully land. But I still I don't know, I think it's it's held up like it's just crazy. I like it. So yeah, my number ten is the director's cut of 1941, and I have not seen that one too. So there's another one that I have not seen. I think you like it. Yeah, I do kind of like it. I would definitely appreciate the swing. It's a huge swing. Absolutely. All right. Number nine we I am I put this on here because of my enjoyment of it when I first saw it. But you did bring up some things because you when you were going through your list. That made me wonder if I would still have it. Does this hold up? But I was, and still, when I think of it, very, very heart warmed by the terminal. Oh, okay. Good. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. It's not. This is the thing I'm talking about. Let me drop that into my editing bay. I can give you a pretty solid one hour, 45 minute movie. There's just so much extra stuff in it that we don't need. But it is, again, it's hard. It's in the right place. Like, oh, yeah, it's fun and like, light, like, yeah, I get it. It has that bopping to it. And I think there is something just inherently fascinating about living in an airport. I just yeah. Yeah, like like we all kind of have like that, sort of like that imagination where like what would that really be like? And I feel like this movie actually does do in a very fun way, a real depiction of what that would be. You would make friends with these people like you, and they would be a crazy eclectic kind of like, you know, cast. Yeah, yeah. So I always remembered having some fondness for that, even though it has been a long time since I've seen it. But I still think that if I was seeing that, maybe some parts didn't hold up, I, I don't think the, the heartwarming aspect of it goes away. That's. Yes. And that's I'm glad you said that because I know I gave a lot of opinions in my like when I burned through his whole filmography, but yeah, like, you're never going to reach to find sentimentality or, like, heartwarming stuff in a speech movie. It's almost it's always, always there. Yeah. And you know, you had Catherine Zeta-Jones was popping big. She just won the Oscar. So she's in it. So it it does like I like the Stanley Tucci stuff I like. Yeah, I kind of like all the work mechanics. Like how he gets hired, like work with that crew. And there is one really funny scene when Tucci and his guy, you know, a guy from Miami Vice and stuff, he's like, yeah, he makes $19 an hour under the table. And Stanley Tucci, he's like, do you know, that's more than I make? It's just funny. And the whole, like, wheeling and dealing gotta get quarters. The process of it I do like a lot I do I love process movies. And there is a process to like, how am I actually going to pull this off? And, you know, he goes to like the abandoned terminal and sets up. That's where he sleeps and stuff. So that's cool. I don't I don't hate it. I don't really like, hate it any of his movies. Hate is a strong word. I know I searched a skull, maybe. Maybe not. Not even hate, but I don't know. So. Okay, that's your number nine. My number nine was War of the worlds, your number eight. So I definitely give this up, even though, as we did talk about, they weren't exactly my favorite, but I can't really kind of discount how many times I've seen this movie. And that's Raiders of the Lost Ark. I mean, yeah, it's. Yeah. And it when you think of adventure movies, this this is movie, this is one that comes to the list. Imagine the action adventure. It's this movie that pops up truly, even as like, not like a die hard fan of it. Yeah, yeah. And when you just talk about that idea of heroes, there is nothing more iconic than Harrison Ford. Tip of the hat, swinging with the whip. And then you've got that music behind it. It is. It will. It's timeless. This will never go away. And there will never be. There will never be another Harrison Ford. And I think I want to point this out because that's someone we don't really talk about. Yeah. No. And he's pulled off a very successful career since becoming a very specific type of star. And I really appreciate his older stuff that he's doing now. I'm not necessarily a very big fan of the show shrinking, but I've seen it. I watched it because I wanted to see Harrison Ford's work. He's a credible like what he does really show. Oh, I haven't seen it either. I have no desire to, but I've I mean, because, you know, I think he's gotten like some nominations and stuff. So I've wondered if he's good. It's really amazing to see him when he's just acting, you know, like you, you strip away Harrison Ford. That idea. And I think so much of that was that idea of what it's starting with, kind of, I mean, there is Han Solo, but I think it was really Indiana Jones that started it was it was it. Star Wars was Star Wars that wasn't Han Solo. He was a breakout character from it. But it was not enough. We never got a Han Solo movie. Oh wait. Oh yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, and then you get like, the 90s of clear and present danger, all of these. That's my favorite, because Presumed Innocent is my favorite acting from him. And that's 1990. I love him and that and I love The Fugitive. Of course I well, the Fugitive, yeah. But there's like, so many other movies that I really like from him like that. The frantic, frantic Henry. Yes. Yeah. And then also that Mosquito Coast, which I can never remember the title. Yes. Yeah. But he's a really good actor when he's not doing the typical, like, Air Force One, even though he's amazing in it. But you know what I'm talking about, right? Like. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Harrison. Grounded. Just I'm trying to save my family. There is nobody that is better. That understanding that the danger of a situation in any given moment than Harrison Ford. He lets you know when someone's like, shit. Raiders, the lost Ark find that man. Raiders lost Ark number eight eight. Number eight from me. Hey, you know, I've come around to it a little bit. It can be a little difficult to know which version to watch, but I watch the most recent one, the director's cut, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Here's the thing. Yeah, yeah, here's here's the thing about it, though. It takes a while to get there. Yeah, I don't really remember that, but it takes it takes a while to get there. But the third act, once they are there, wherever the hell it is, that mountain, that hilltop thing, you're you're cooking and it's just it's it's great. It's a it's a classic Spielberg thing. I love that Francois Truffaut is the one like directing this all and once offered him the part. He's like, I can do it, but I'm not an actor. I have to play this. As Francois and Spielberg goes, that's what I want you to do. Like just play it as yourself. So I love yeah, I love that the obsession with between within Richard Dreyfuss good. Yeah. Good. Good movie I like it, I but I've come around to it because when I watched it as a kid, I was not a fan. I thought it was way too long and slow. But as an adult now, I kind of I also, I just really appreciate that, you know, the end I it's same way I appreciate Indy Indiana Jones like he shoots guys he doesn't just like, you know, disarm them. He shoots him dead. Richard Dreyfuss is like adios. Let me go see what's cooking. Cooking over here I don't know, I like it. That was one that never, ever did it for me. I've seen that movie. I know all of the times and we've talked about it, even even the ending. I even though I agree, I, I understand that spectacle, but I've even even that one. I'm like the fucking thing. 1010, ten, ten. I'm like, I think I got an issue. I've realized that I, you know, I don't like Once Upon a Time in in the West for this reason, like these sort of like musical sort of cues that certain movies have that just really harp on it for a really long time. I get really annoyed by it, I guess. Once Upon a Time in the West, the theme to that is my favorite piece of, you know, merican eno merican score that harmonica. No, that's just the harmonica. I'm talking about the grand harmonica. Just. He doesn't keep doing that over. Oh he does. It's all the fucking time he's doing it. I had the whole fucking first hour. I was like, when is this guy going to stop fucking playing this thing for so long? But do you. But the YouTube cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut cut nature of everything. All. Oh, whatever. That fucking disaster works for you. Great. Which one? Everything. Everywhere. None at once. The bullshit movie. It swept the Oscars in 2022. That you love, that you declared as your favorite movie that. No. I've retracted. I've retracted. You retract that bit about my kids. Okay. So close to kind of. I went right there where they had that beer and had a beer at that cafe when I was in Bruges on purpose. I felt great about my life. Well, good. You couldn't get up in the tower because it was going to take too long. Number seven. All right. And I will be wrapping up. I'm going to include Temple of Doom into my list as well. And this is the one that I've always liked. This is the one. We have now reached the point of Steven Spielberg's My Top ten list, where I don't really have anything really too negative. Yeah, yeah. Same here. Same here. I enjoy Temple of Doom because it is absolutely ridiculous. I feel like I know you were saying like silver wasn't exactly in a good headspace, but whatever headspace was going on for them and they just wanted to get weird. I think I appreciate Spielberg when he wants to get weird. Yeah. Amen to that. And this has for weirdos like me, a fun sleuthing Wikipedia read, because, you know, the star of the movie is Kate Capshaw, who he. But he was like, with Amy Irving at the time. There was he. He's been with Kate Capshaw for like 35 years now, but I don't know, a child was born with Amy Irving after Temple of Doom. I don't know, it's all really interesting. It's all I'm saying. I don't have any insight. He likes it. Yeah, I would say so. Stevie. Well, Stevie there, my number seven is Minority Report. I, I don't know I like it I another 4k, I bought I I operated a lot I have, I have quite a few I'll read them out I duel jaws, Close Encounters, E.T., Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, War of the worlds, yeah, all in 4K. I've 21 of his movies total. I had 22 of my Color Purple DVD broke, so I had to stream that. I had to get. I had to get rid of it and broke Empire. The sun still spinning. Fine color purple when it was his lagging during that first scene. I hate that and you can't get out of it like your DVD player breaks a fucking 4K player just breaks it like freezes. I'm like great. So my Color Purple DVD is the one to do this device in. Great. I'm glad you get kick out of that. It's I'll read them all while he while he's in his giggling. I'll list every single Spielberg movie I own. Here we go. Duel. Jaws. Close encounters 1941 Indiana Jones one two, three. Empire, The Sun, hook, Jurassic Park, Schindler's List, The Lost World, Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, A.I., Minority Report, Catch Me If You Can, War the Worlds, Munich, British Spies, The Post which I just bought. Ladies and gentlemen, Alex with row. Thanks. Thanks, thanks. Minority report number seven. All right. Your number six number. We are not going to have eight by. No, I don't I don't think we are one. But number six is jaws. Okay. Cool. Wow. Ranking number six. Yeah. Jaws, which I just showed my wife last year, never seen it. And wow, did it work. So it's just proof that it still works. She was like, she was fucking terrified, man. It's it's as an effective movie as you'll ever see it. There's a reason why it never gets old. Never. That being said, I am so fucking sick of this fucking movie. If I never see this movie again, I will be A-okay. This, to me, is forever. No, it will be. But I never need to see it again. I feel like I don't. This is. This is nervous to me. I respect nirvana. They change the world for music. They've got all these iconic songs. Anytime it comes on the radio, I'm like, no, I'm not listening to it. This is how I feel about jaws. I've seen jaws so many times, and I have had everyone from the world tell me that jaws is the best thing ever fucking made. And I'm like, yeah, it's that good. It really is that good. But now it's ruined. I can't go anywhere. I can't brush my teeth to this movie anymore because doesn't want you to. Anytime someone says, hey, it's the summer, let's go to the Hollywood Forever Cemetery and see jaws, I'll be like, no. Anyone's like, hey, let's go see the new like, like new cut or whatever. Like the, you know, the American Cinematheque of jaws. I'd be like, no, thank you, I've seen it, I know it. I'm out. Number six. Yes. It's all it's very hard to get that off my chest and in pop culture, but what E.T. did for me, I cannot fathom being that age when jaws came out. Like, I just can't imagine if you saw this in the theater when you were like five, six, seven. I can not imagine. So I get it. Yeah, this is one that I didn't even rewatch this one for this episode because I watched it last year. And I will say one flawless way to experience this. Although it's very difficult if you manage to find someone who has never seen it, showing it to them is a lot of fun. It is a lot of fun. I think that would be. But that's the way I mean, I don't at this point. It's going to be like, you're not to find kids, but I that having children must it must be fun. If you're like, if you have kids and you're a movie buff because, you know, Spielberg is going to introduce sometimes some of the pleasure, some of the joy of Spielberg is watching some of his movies a little too young. I saw a little too young. It scared the shit out of me, scared the fucking shit out of me for years. So Jurassic Park, probably a little too young, so I'll Saving Private Ryan probably a little too young. But it's like these gateways of getting there, and you feel like cool. Like I'm maturing because, like, I can handle these movies. You know, jaws would still. You could show a five year old jaws name. May never want to go in the ocean again. Like, you could still do that to someone. Oh, yeah, you could start that. I'd get here. But you get started right here. But I get it. Yes, it is a lot to. You've seen it a lot. We all have, most of us. My number six. I did a bang bang bang six 2002. Catch me if you can. Yes yes, yes. Nothing good. Okay. No. Well I was I was saving that one because that catch me if you got in 2002 one of those weird years. You know, I love the Oscars. Chris Cooper just walked away with this award. Like, for adaptation. There were. I mean, walking was not really he had some good. But he did that because he I say I say this a lot like Chris Cooper won the Oscar for October, Sky, American Beauty and adaptation. That's the thing you're taking in. Like he didn't get nominated for those other two movies. He definitely should have been nominated for American Beauty. So people remember and you taken that goodwill, and then suddenly it's like Christopher Walken, who I mean, he was up against some really heavy hitters and he just walked away with it. But I love that. But yeah, catch me if you can. It does hold up. It is very fun and it's just fun. It's just a fun fucking movie. Leo's great in it. Leo's great. Tom Hanks is great in it. Yeah, I very much enjoy that movie and you'll see why. Top five. Give me your five. Top five baby. All right. So it made it. E.T is good. Yay! Wow, what a we. Five. Yes! What a reach. Well, we we we made it. I'm glad I made it and well deserved. I mean, I enjoyed every second of that movie from the start of it. I was terrified for E.T. when the cops were chasing them. I loved even just like, that simple idea of us never seeing their faces when they're starting and then just, yeah, the vulnerability of that alien. It just got me in all the ways. And then also realizing, too, that this is a this is kind of a rough movie when when it comes to these kids like, oh yeah, like this is a like, this is a broken home big time. I did not expect that. Like when I first saw it, I was sort of like, oh, this isn't like a typical like, you know, like, oh, here's the mom and dad where they've got a good relationship, but they just don't believe there's their kids because, you know, aliens, you know, no divorce in their the absence of others. Do it. Yeah. And you feel that and the look of the movie. I loved how the camera was always so low. So you're always sort of at, like a little kids sort of level. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah. So E.T., I that that. Yep. I really big, big win. Yeah. Big win I have a big loss here because I'm just remembering right now that I, I was struggling of what to call you in the beginning. And I went with War Horse. I absolutely meant to call you Penis Breath. That's such a fail. Shut up, penis breath. What a great insult. And I love it that she laughs. The mom laughs. I always love that movie. So the kids say something bad, but then the mom laughs. She's like hell. Then we went and got my horse impression. Horse? Yep. Oh that's right. That was a God. That was so well worth it. My number five kind of feels weird to put it all the way at five. It is Jurassic Park. What? Oh, what a picture. What a watched it again. Kind of. Kind of watch it just any time. Really smart decision to see what is happening as you are filming and not kill Jeff Goldblum because he was not supposed to come back when he gets thrown down. That was supposed to be the end of that character, but they're seeing that it's working, the chemistry is working, and then you bring him back and you just slam them out on a table shirt exposed. Oh, this very one wants to see. Maybe that's what everyone wants to see. They just want to see that they want to see that belly out and they want to be like Goldbloom. I love what he takes over the walkie talkie. He's like, what's the matter with you? You don't know how to read a blueprint. It's like he's like, see, the pipes up top follows like that. Spare no expense. Oh, we spared no expense. Yeah, it was spared. No expense. Spare no expense. It's also kind of funny. That guy is Richard Attenborough who beat. Yeah. Speech for best director in 1982 because he won for Gandhi. And right after he won, like, not in his speech, but very shortly after. He's like, this should have been Stephen's like he should have won this for E.T.. I think he's right too. But I just love that. And then you cast, you know him and he's perfect and everyone's great in it. It's great casting to not go with the biggest movie star possible, which you could have gotten. But you go with Sam Neill, Lord during and Jeff Goldblum. Great great great great. Spare no expense. Spare no expense. Number four for you. Okay. Now, now, now we're. Now we're really talking number four, Schindler's List. Wow. Okay, okay, I don't you haven't seen this one a lot, right? Just like once I did. Well, I just rewatched it. Oh, you did okay, I did, but but I think this was probably my third time seeing it. This was one where in school, like, they show you a lot of these scenes from this movie because they want to give you an idea of the Holocaust, you know? So they're there. So I see, but I remember being so kind of like moved by what I was watching in these history classes where they would just give you clips that I ended up just watching the movie, and I'm just being like, well, okay. But I did not know for a very long time that this was actually a Steven Spielberg movie. Oh, okay. So that was a big thing where I remember when I found that out, I had already seen the movie and had a relationship with it, and then finding out that Steven Spielberg directed it, I go, no, that's not correct. No, no, that no, there's no yeah. When you're young, it doesn't fit. It doesn't feel like it fits. You're like, yeah, Indiana Jones guy. The Jaws and Eat guy made it the most realistic movie about the Holocaust ever. Really? Yeah. And I and I was just sort of like, I. Then I learned it was true and I was go, wow, that is really something. But I'll say this is this is undeniable filmmaking. It's very hard to watch because what can you say? You know, you're talking about this really happened. Honestly, though, freaked me out a lot this time watching it because I literally just watched it like two days ago. Oh, man. I mean, we don't really talk too much about this and we don't really need to get into it. But I think when you're younger and you watch something like this, there was a weird sort of disconnect that I think I had thinking about something like this when I was younger, because there was just sort of this feeling of like, well, we're past that. We're like that, that that did happen. But ancient history, like, that's just not something that we would ever do again. And just seeing it two days ago and realizing like, oh, I could absolutely see this happening again and how terrifying that is, and the fact that it actually is happening in certain areas of the world, that's that's what I was going to say. And the fact that it could actually happen here, it is not as it is not as disconnected as it was when I was younger. Yeah, we're we're older now. We've seen more of the world. And that brutality in the world doesn't it doesn't go away. It just doesn't it doesn't always terrible shit going on. Yeah. If you move ahead with a certain kind of direction on something, you can get a lot of people to join in on it. That to make it a little uncomfortable for our conversation. That all being said, that was definitely an emotional impact I had watching it. But that also, again, in terms of just filmmaking, this is this masterful. Yeah, you really can't do better if you're just even talking about cinematography, a shot construction, character blocking. I mean, you have it all here. Yeah, you really do. It's a fantastically shot. The first one that Yamiche Kominsky shot for him won the Oscar. So and then he's shot every single Spielberg movie since. Oh really? This was their first I think part of why he wanted to hire him is because he's I believe Yamiche is Polish and had experience with documentaries. And he's like, Spielberg goes, I don't want this to look like another. Like, I want this on the ground, gritty handheld. There's no fancy crane shots. And I mean, it's very minimal photography on purpose. Yeah, every decision that was made was the correct one, even to have Nazis speaking English, because he didn't want people to be distracted by the subtitles, even having it in black and white, because he thought this story was about the absence of light. Because it is. It's it's all wise. Everything worked. Everything. Everything. Great pick. I'm glad I'm. You know, I'm glad I made the list. My number for living things up a little bit. Your other favorite jaws that you're going to rewatch after this episode? Oh, I can't wait. That's only our second one in common so far. This is. That's wild. But it's it's good. It's cool. Top three. Give me your three or. Yeah, your number three. So number three, we got Saving Private Ryan coming in. Right. That's my number three as well. My number three as well. Yeah. Again you know my listing of four and three for Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan. I think these are his two most well-made movies. If you're just talking about the art of filmmaking and and in some ways, I actually think Schindler's List as a whole might actually be a, a better a better movie, not a better movie, but you know what I mean? Like, it's just a complete piece of business. I think Schindler's List is is that but but I mean, Saving Private Ryan and that Normandy scene, and I am basing a lot of my third placement on the miracle of filmmaking, of what that opening scene is. And we always joked about that is where if you've been following us, mad Movie, but we do have that common catch phrase that we say where you can really start the movie here because it all stems from us watching that and just going from each scene as the movie keeps getting on and on me. Like you could actually really start the movie here. Well, because the the genius thing is that that invasion has nothing to do with the movie. It has nothing to do with the movie. That's what we talk at all a lot in the commentary, like the I. A few Ryan brothers or 1 or 2, at least one was killed because we get the, you know, the close up of the back of his, of his uniform as that segment ends. But it doesn't. And it's just us meeting the characters. Like, that's just the way he has us meeting them. And to do that is I still can't believe it. I will never forget that. I know that theater I was in where my dad and I were sitting, and as soon as that fucking door came down, I. I'm getting chills just talking about it. I've never seen a reaction like that in the theater. I mean, veterans were there in suits like it was it. It was just an experience. And you I mean, people had their heads down. We were like, oh my God. And that I would just never forget my dad going, oh my God in that voice. Like. And then you think this is what it was like, like these, these were kids. Oh, man. Man. Yeah, yeah. All right. So that was my number three as well. Give me your two. All right. Number two I mean again, first time ever experiencing a movie where it just took over my entire soul. Jurassic Park, 1993. You. I just like this. This is where this this Steven Spielberg spectacle and all of the things that he does really well. This is the one where it got me. Yours was E.T. Yeah. This was my personal one where I was like, I remember being a kid and being like, I didn't know I could ever feel this way. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So I know what your number one is. Why don't you do that and I'll do my two one. All right. Yes. Nine number I love this. We we skipped over it when you said it, but I have I have stood by this statement. I have said this since I've seen this motherfucking movie. My favorite Steven Silver movie of all time was Catch Me If You Can. You've said it on the pod at some point. I don't remember when, but because I remember you told me that in person and I was like, whoa, that's a really cool take. And it's just, I don't know when I put it, I would have bought the 4K, but for some reason it's still like expensive, like a lot of the other 4K I bought. I don't know, maybe they're on sale or something, but this one's kind of expensive, but I bet it just looks great. Even those credits, man, the credits are like fun as hell. John Williams music, the animation. Like it's just this is the reason why I like this movie so much is, well, one. It's also supremely well done. Like like I remember I actually did something for my my high school class in terms of like a film study on. I can't remember which fucking sequence it was, but I used this movie for lighting because I remember thinking about how it's all natural. Well, not natural necessarily, but the idea of the movie is that all the lighting comes from daylight from outside. Right. And, and I never really thought about that as a kid. And I'm like, oh, wow, it really is. But there's something that's that I don't even under really understand it. There is a sadness in this movie that is permeating throughout every single second of it. It never goes away. Even when it's fun. There's a real sadness to it. That is exactly what people who love AI say about it. So that's really interesting. And Close Encounters. Yeah, yeah, this that there is this inherent sadness that's going on. But because it's so it can be so fun to watch people miss it. Just like a lot of like love. Like I Want to Hold Your Hand by The Beatles. That's a sad song, but it sounds funny because. Yeah, because it sounds fun. Rather because it's so boppy. So yeah, that I've, I have heard that too, and I do, I absolutely feel and catch me. It's it's the damn parents thing again. He just keeps going back to the parents. Yeah. And it's his conviction of like, no, no, you just you need to go to mom's and tell her. And he's like, your mom married like my my friend. Like, this has been done. Frank. Come on, man, like, what's going on here? Oh, it is my favorite Christopher Walken performance of more Than the big. The big D, the deer Hunter. Big. Even more than the big deal. Yeah. Look, you know, you know, there's man, he gets me every time that and that, and there's so much of that sadness is actually from walking to like, he that man like this. At times when that guy walks into a frame, he's literally the embodiment of a ghost of someone who's like, they're still alive. But everything that they that's been about who they are is gone. And like, it's in his bones, you just. And and Leo is fighting so hard to get that person back. Yeah. His dad, what he remembers. And it's just not going to happen. No. To mice. Which monster? Mine. Which mice? To mice to fall to a bucket of. Love it. All right, I'm going to do my two one. So I had a lot of trouble with this. This is the only time probably anyone would watch a double feature of these two movies, but I really couldn't figure it out. Which one do I am I going to say is my number one? Because you got E.T. And I've gone into that about how like that is the movie that broke open movies, not even the content of it just. But it was that because I was so obsessed with the content, but like breaking that green VHS open, studying it so much over and over, that movie can make me. I mean, the second the chase starts, when they're chasing after the kids all the way to the end is perfect. It's just perfect filmmaking. It might be my favorite 20 minute stretch in any steelwork movie. I'm not saying it's more impressive than Normandy, but it's just, oh my God, it's perfect. And that, you know the way that it takes you. Yeah, the triple cut on the street. Right. And then the close up of E.T. and they send all the friends up, and then, you know, I'll be right here. Like, all, all that stuff. I sob every time. The music just. He's fucking on one often. But, man, when those credits come for E.T., it's like, it's so nuts and, like, loud. And he is just banging those pianos. It's like, obviously I have to put it at number one. But then I decided to rewatch Schindler's List as I'm prone to do. I watch it typically about once a year. I'm sorry, I don't know what to tell people I don't know. And here, this is where I'm going to also bring the pod down and explain some things this movie should be, should be, and is at times as grim as cinema gets. But there's a really weird thing going on throughout the entire movie that I didn't really catch on to until, like, now, this entire fucking thing is about paperwork. It is about process. Process. Oh yeah, the whole thing. Put this name here, make that form, disguise it so it looks old. This get this piece of get this lighter to pay off that guy. It's all moving stuff around this and that, this and that. But the thing that they're every deal being made is for human life. So. But when. Yeah. You see kind of the, I don't know, almost like carelessness of Oskar Schindler, like whatever. I'm spending money here doing money here and you and the way that we never it's never explained to us when he changes because he doesn't change when he sees the red coat that, like, startles him into something. But you don't really know. Like, when does he make the decision to, like, have this factory or why? And so it's the process thing. We're just watching it like over and over. And then one of the grand magical tricks in the movie is that the title of the movie is about a document, like it's about paperwork, the entire movie is about paperwork. And just, no, you can't do this. Like so. There's that aspect of it. There's also the aspect of how well it is shot and how well it is paced, because the movie is three hours and 15 minutes and it moves. You are never bored. It is never stuffy. I don't know how the hell I, I risk to call this entertaining, but I don't. I just don't know how he assembled this in a way that made it anything other than unwatchable. But he did. I don't know how, but I am so compelled all the time to go back to it. I'm studying the technique of it. I'm studying how the pacing of it like scene. There are a few long scenes, but not really. Like he's moving things constantly. And then, yeah, there's another really strange aspect to it that should has no business being in the movie and is not present in other Holocaust movies. This movie, forgive me for saying this, you haven't seen in a while is fucking funny at times. It is beyond or below gallows humor. Even I pardon you. That is played in a series of threes like a comedy bit. And how that ends is horrific. But the biggest sign of this is when Ben Kingsley gets taken. You know, where where stern and he's talking to the two guys on the platform gets it. What is your name? And they're being they're being aggressive. And he's like, gentlemen, thank you. I can all but guarantee you'll be working in East Russia by the end of the month. And then we cut to Liam Neeson walking, yelling, stern, stern! And then they just walk up right next to him. It is a comedy bit, and they go stern. Stern. Because now they know that, okay, this is a guy with power that is funny and they are rescuing someone from a fucking concentration camp train car. That is. I don't know how he did that. And I laugh when I see that. And then of course the this this is like tough the liquidation. There are two sequences in this. The liquidation of the ghetto is so disturbing and it is just something where you really see we have seen the Nazism take hold. We've seen them carelessly kill people. But then, you know, Ray finds just says today is history. And then they start and it's everything from, you know, poisoning the hospital patients so they don't get shot, which they do anyway, to where everyone is hiding. And I mean, they're literally cleaning house and like getting them catling them to, to these cars. And then I didn't I don't know why I didn't really have a good memory of this. It gets me get a little choked up talking about it. There's a scene when they, it begins with Schindler just walking on the street and it's. Is it snowing? Is it. What is that? And it's. No, that's ashes. It's ashes falling down. Oh where's that coming from. That's okay. And then it gives us a title card. Which movie doesn't do a lot. And it basically says that I'm in girth. I'm sorry if I'm not pronouncing that correctly. You know, the ray finds character. He we cut it says that he's been given an assignment to exhume and burn all the bodies they buried. Now exhume. What that means is you have to dig up those buried bodies. And Nazis didn't dig up these bodies. They made the Jewish people do it. They made the prisoners do it. You could be digging up your husband, your wife, your child. And they're doing this in the first time we see them pull a body out. This. The music has been so still. And then this requiem just fucking blares and it just goes. And then the next shot we see are these dead human beings on a fucking conveyor belt being fed into this pit of fire, and this requiem is just raging. There is no humanity. There is no hope in. The first thing we hear is Ray finds. Go! Can you believe this? I already have so much to do. And now they put this on my plate, bringing it back to the bureaucratic process. Never any mention of. Look at all these human beings we're killing. It's my God. As if I don't already have enough to do all this. This whole balance. This is one of the most important and special movies ever made. It has to be my number one. It just has to be. It is. I cannot believe he did it. I urge everyone, I implore you to please go rewatch it. And then me, Mr. Hard and Mr.. I don't like this hogwash sentimentality. Go watch the final 15 minutes the color portion of this movie. If that doesn't get you then I. I have no idea what will. I'm just a mess every time I watch it and absolute mess. I think this is truly I could probably say this is one of the top ten best films ever made. If I was ever making a list like that, this is up there with the best of them. This is The Godfather. He's given us so much, but I really can't believe that he did it this way. And I think it. Yeah, Schindler's list is my number one. I think it's a profoundly moving film in such a disturbing one. I'm really glad you rewatched it. I didn't know you had, but yeah, the 4K looks and sounds amazing, but wow, really, what a movie. I mean, so many of them. My Schindler's List, E.T., same, Private Ryan, jaws, Jurassic Park, they're all like unassailable masterpieces. But my long way of saying, I do think Schindler's List deserves to be at the top, and it's a tough one to put at the top. But god damn that movie. No, it's. But you're everything you're saying is. And everything you were saying, I felt. Yeah. Like. And it's, it's not an easy movie, but you are right in the way to where it does have that Spielberg sort of. If you are compelled throughout all of it, it's not it's not unwatchable in the way that, like, you know, something like Night and Fog would be or, you know, some of these other type of things where you're like, listen, I can't really sit through this. Well, even even as hard as this is, yeah, there's a terribly disturbing scene when a half naked Ray finds just is board has just woken up and goes and just decides while he's having his morning cigarette, to snipe a few people out who are just sitting around because he feels like it. That's that's so important to show is as horrific as it is. Because then you see, like his lover in the bed who's annoyed that he's making noise, that's the only reason why she's annoyed. And I mean, he like, you know, chambers a bullet and it goes on her and falls and he's like, wakey, wakey! And then goes in peace with the door wide open. It's important to show this stuff because not only did it happen, I've watched documentaries about people who were at this camp and said he would do that routinely. You have to see how little impact this. This does not impact them at all emotionally. You have to see that to understand, like that's how this happened, that I mean, you know, we don't argue with these people. Shoot her and then rebuild it, tear it down and rebuild it, just like she said, like, yeah, that woman can be right, but she's not allowed to tell us what to do just to complete, you know, they really there is no humanity here. There's there's just none. And you have to show all of that, like, all of it. And it's. Yeah, I, I really can't believe there's a lot of his career that even if he isn't, whatever, one of our guys, even if nothing from our lists has been made past 2000 or, you know, we didn't have any movie past 2005 on either of our lists, that it doesn't it just doesn't matter, because all the greatness that he has given us, he's going to be in the top tier for the rest of our lifetimes, let alone his. And he deserves it. But yeah, go back. Don't go, you know, go back for the good Spielberg, that's all. And I and I have to say, I'm really happy with how we got here, because I know at the very top of this podcast, you know, we kind of started out with this sort of lukewarm tone for, for Steven Spielberg. But I never wanted because because the thing of what we're talking about is like, there is a reason why he is revered in the way that he is. That's why we talked how we did in the beginning, because he's given us masterpiece, masterpiece, masterpiece over and over and over. And that luster, like it or not, to me, is not there anymore. And that's okay. It's okay. That's what I'm. That's what I have trouble with, that's all. And even though, like, I'm still even in some of his things that some of these like, you know, hook, for example. I love that you brought that up. I cannot tell you how many people I know that hook is one of their all time favorite movies because they saw it. They were. Yeah, exactly. They are my age, so but he's got this quality about him that you. This is why I, we never I never felt like we were kind of like speaking of him ill or in a disrespectful way, because we have appreciated him on levels where certain filmmakers, you just can't you don't get what he gives you. So I'm glad that I feel like at the end of this top ten, we have landed on why we do really appreciate him, even if he is not particularly a director, that for either of us, kind of strike right to the top for us personally in terms of like, oh, who are your favorite directors of all time? Speak won't really come into my kind of conversation for that, but I also don't want that to mean that when we're talking about something like Schindler's List or E.T., Jurassic Park, you know, jaws, like, there there are there are things that he has done with the art of filmmaking that no one is ever able to do. And and it's not lost on us, even if he's not exactly, quote unquote, one of our guys. Yeah, yeah. It's just don't if you have started his career, I don't know, based on age for whatever reason, like if you started in 2008 and you've kept up and haven't gone back a lot, I don't think there are a lot of people like that, but that's kind of what I'm getting at that there. I mean, his output has not changed. He's still releasing a lot of movies, but I don't think I really did think Disclosure Day might be somewhat of a return to form. I did not think they were going to be mean aliens like War of the worlds, but I thought he would give us something of that. A flash of the old Steve. And it's just a flash of the new Steve. That's that's all it is. And that's, you know, that is okay. But yeah, I would never take away anything from him. His my sweet spot is 93, beginning with Jurassic Park to like War the worlds or even Munich like those years. I have just like 12 years of really great movies. And of course he has ones earlier that I love to. But yeah, I that's why I wanted to use Disclosure Day as a jumping off point to talk about him, but not necessarily just covered that. Like, I really did want to open this up for the fool Steven Spielberg kind of experience. Honorable mentions. I'll go real quick. I did have Temple of Doom because I love everything inside that temple. And I did have Amistad. Not as a whole movie, but just like if you haven't seen it, go try to check it out just for that middle passage or just find that clip. It was it was really well done. It surprised me. War of the worlds was my number nine, but I did want to have the caveat that I'm really just giving it to that first hour because I son leaves. Tim. Tim Robbins it's I don't know, it just. Yeah, kind of falls off, but any honorable mentions from you? I thrown the last Crusade out there, right. Just because I've got the two other ones in there and Last Crusade, you can't deny I texted you this. But I also do think that's one of my. That. That whole end sequence is so much fun when he's going through all the traps and. Oh, yeah, yeah, that is fun. And you finally get to the end guy. And I mean, that's one of the most like, like quoted lines ever. Like he chose poorly. Yeah, yeah. And you know all that. So Last Crusade Sean Connery and Harrison Ford in that movie, you really can't beat that. That duo I threw in Munich into mine. I pretty much agree with everything you said, though. I never thought how much about the sex scene? Oh, my God, that was Craig. Thing is, like, he sets it up in the beginning. They have a before he goes on his mission. Like they have a nice, you know, very like kind of romantic love scene. It isn't as graphic. So I get what he's doing. But you don't need that either. I, I, I would love I don't know if I've ever heard him like talk about it. I would love to know his reasoning behind it and like the way that she's receiving it, she seems like I get it. This is he's like working it out. And I'm going, what? Like what the I don't know, it has some good sequences though. It does. And then I threw the last one in there. This this actually made your list. I've never really was a huge fan of it. Minority report okay, cool. Yeah. It's not from start to finish. I remembered it being really great from start to finish. And then sadly, when I put on the 4K, I went, oh, this is kind of stretching a little bit. It's kind of reaching, but just stretching my patience. But it still has a lot of cool shit in it. And by the way, we did. We ended up having seven in common, so we made it right onto the wire. Not eight, but seven. Man, yeah, I was I was actually surprised. I figured I figured we were gonna. Yeah. No, it doesn't seem like it, but yeah, we did. Yeah. All right. What do you want? That was fun. That was fun. I'll go. We had. That was. We had War of the worlds, jaws. Same Private Ryan, Jurassic Park, E.T., Catch me if you can in Schindler's List. In common. Very cool. I do like your list, too, and I don't. Yeah, I don't think there's anything you haven't seen. I would like you to see 1941, I think. Yeah, that's 41. Sounds like it might be kind of fun. Yeah. Yep. Well, I'll go first. That's my. What are you watching recommendation. Look at that. I'm not selfless. I just lean right into it. I didn't know I was going to do that. It's my. What are you watching? What? You're doubling down. I'm going first. Yeah. You you you son of a bitch. You told me that literally. In terms of this outline. God help you if you double down. I meant disclosure day. Like, if you like Disclosure Day. No. When we're talking about 35 different movies, you can pick one of those if you want. I just don't like if if we both really like disclosure, it'd be like, hey, Disclosure Day. No, that's what I meant. I thought you were. I thought you were launching into what do you watching? And then you were going to double down with 1941 I am, that's what I'm doing. Why are you confused? Oh, am I am I being unclear listener when I put in the outline? God help you if you double down. I meant don't double down on the main movie at hand. Disclosure day I wrote this outline before I knew we didn't like it at all, so I didn't I, I thought, well, I doubling down in one of your top tens. Well, also when I put that in 1941 wasn't in my top ten. That was a late decision and I wanted to be able to explain it here. But while I talk, you can put any movie except Disclosure Day as or what are you watching any film? All right. Okay. 1940 1st May 1979. Okay. I saw this movie once in 2012 when I covered Spielberg on my blog. I basically told the general line, intentionally outrageous comedy. That doesn't work too much, too big. I get it to Big Miss. Moving on Quentin Tarantino and Bret Easton Ellis love this movie. They never shut up about it. And while those while those are two men with batshit movie tastes, their passion will get me to reinvestigate stuff. So this episode is coming up. I buy the Blu ray for $7. Why not? Has the director's cut that's 30 minutes longer. And I'm just. I did this three days ago. I'm prepared to just dig in for a 2.5 hour mess. I do put the phone on the other side of the room. I don't want to be distracted. I can't lie, I thought this movie was hilarious. Hilarious. I was stunned, as I mentioned how often I laughed aloud, how often I rewound certain bits. The majority of the humor is so low brow that a child would laugh at it. It slapstick spoof. These are not difficult bits to understand, but a lot of the movie, a lot of it is deeply crass. I think younger audiences would just flat out call it racist. Today it is very unexpectedly horny, historically intriguing, and just plain dumb fun. It's very uneven. It's silly, but just one hell of a big studio swing and there's a lot to appreciate about it. It was written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale a few years before back to the future, a few years before they wrote back to the future and as their wicked sense of humor. But John Milius has a story credit and it has his sense of cynical history. So in 1941, it uses a lot of historical reference, but of course, plays with them. All this shit happened the bombardment of Elwood, when a Japanese sub attacked a naval base near Santa Barbara in 1942. I didn't know that the Battle of Los Angeles was a response to that, when basically all of LA thought they were being aerated by Japanese forces, but it was just a false alarm, like all this shit happen. The, oh, there was a story of the army placing a giant, I mean, giant anti-aircraft gun in a citizens front yard in the main on the coast of Maine. So they do this on the coast of California. They put it in, Oh, Christ. Ned Beatty's yard is fucking hysterical. So funny. That's funny. The Zoot Suit Riots, I've heard a song about that, but those were in LA in 1943, when a bunch of servicemen fought people of color in the streets of LA. All that is in this movie, it's fun. It's huge. It is capital Max maximalist, but it deserves a first or second chance. I'm just saying it does. I really think you would laugh at some parts of it. Huge cast, like anyone who is everyone at the time is in it, from John Belushi to I mean, everybody is in it. It's it's just crazy. But yeah, I definitely feel a lot of New York, New York from Scorsese where he doesn't necessarily have a lot of rules. I feel a lot of Babylon. It's things like that. It's these big I like. Yeah. And I mean, that's the thing. I like New York, New York, so do I. I appreciate like the swing of it, but I can't speak to the theatrical version of 1941. I don't remember it that well. I watched the director's cut and for a $7 Blu ray, because it was going to be five to rent. And I went, well, I'll just buy the damn Blu ray. It's got two editions. Why not feature length making of I liked it, I like it, I'm a fan. I don't know, I'm surprised. All right, all right. That's my recommendation, 1941. All right, well, then I got I'm going to double down with one because we we did talk a lot about it, but I, I do think that maybe it is an important viewing for anyone that really hasn't seen Schindler's List. Oh, wow. You doing that? Wow. Yeah. I'm going to do it because I think it's, Well, I the reason I it's kind of the reason why I was saying a little bit in my, my experience with it, watching it this last time is, is I, it hits different now. That's all I'll say. And and and and while that's not comfortable, it might be important just because it just very important film. Everyone should watch it. They should show it in school unedited. Like at a young age. I'm dead serious. No, I completely agree. And just because of the world being in the state that it is right now, and just seeing this right here, it's just sort of like just a reminder that this is, history will repeat itself in these sorts of ways unless we actually, like, try to not let it happen. It's also just brilliant filmmaking. And I think the way that both of our voices drop when we talk about it, you know, I think that sort of just kind of bears repeating that, if you haven't seen this, if you've been sort of somebody where because I feel like this might be a case for a lot of listeners where maybe that's been a movie that you've kind of always had on your to do list. My stepmom, who, you know, I mean, her, her mother fled Amsterdam to get because Nazi Germany was overtaking it like they were invading it. So she had to flee. She can't watch it. She's never seen it. And and I get it when I can understand that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, I get it. But yeah, just in terms of, like a film like list that you've had where you're like, oh man. Yeah, I keep hearing about Schindler's List, but it feels like it's going to be daunting because you're like, all right, it's a three hour Holocaust movie. To your point is, as difficult as some things are, this is not exactly like a this is. Yeah, this I don't know how Spielberg this woman means talking about Spielberg. Like, it's not like a boring academic thing. It's an important movie. But this is not like an eating your vegetables movie. Like, all right, I'm becoming a film fan. Some. I got a knock out, some I was given. I'm gonna give you shit on an upcoming episode about Citizen Kane and your take on that. This is. I understand that that one can be. Yeah, that's like a challenge. It's a slog. I get the Lawrence of Arabia, Ken. Schindler's list is not that. It is not slow. It is not at all. Not ever. It is not a boring movie. Not at all, not at all. Not. Nope. Not not one, not not one second of it. So yeah. So yeah. Schindler's list. Watch it, everybody rewatch it. I'll report back because that's another one. Ali, my wife has not seen and we just got done her favorite movies ever are the Harry Potter movies. So we just got done rewatching those. And Ralph Fiennes, his Voldemort, like the main bad guy. And we kind of have a deal where I'm going to show her because there's seven, however many Harry Potter movies, that same amount of movies, but with actors from those movies that she like hasn't seen anywhere else. So like when I showed her Grand Budapest, she was like, what the hell? Voldemort can be like, funny. And I went, yeah. And then I said, you think Voldemort's bad? I'll show you this dude plan. Oh, the biggest monster of monsters. So she actually does want to see it. And she's heard that it. I think she thought it was like an important movie, but probably was going to be a little academic and a little boring. And then I was like, oh, no, no, no it's not. No, it's that's that's the magic of it. I don't know, just like how he did that and how someone like me, I don't know, can be compelled to rewatch it because the filmmaking of it is so beautiful. All of it. It just I don't know, it's it it really is a miracle of a movie. And I'm. Yeah. I'm glad you're doubling down with that one. I am, yeah, yeah. Deservedly so. Spielberg. We love Steven Spielberg. No fan of cinema or no casual viewer can discount what this man has done for this art. It's true. He has done more than he has done. As much I'll say, as anyone, anyone in the history of the art form. He is on their level. He is their equal. He has their respect and ours. It's okay if his most recent wave of films don't necessarily work for you. Like I said, my dad is kind of into I mean, he was into West Side Story in The Fabelmans. I know The Fabelmans is repped very well. Some people it is. Love that movie. I see it on letterbox. People say that's the best movies made. His whole career was leading up to it all that like it's all good. There's something to appreciate. There's some even in Kingdom of Crystal skull. It's so funny at how bad that refrigerator bit is that we're sitting here, like, making fun of it. It's. I mean, it's something to talk about, I don't know, part time. Like, it's something to talk about. It's funny. War horse. War horse is about to give Crystal skull anything. All right. That you're you're better than that. Well, that and War Horse are the only ones I didn't rewatch. And and everyone I watched, even the The Color Purple, which I didn't have the biggest I wasn't the biggest fan of before. But now I have a new appreciation for Empire the Sun. Always. Even there are. There's stuff to appreciate in Spielberg films. So yes, I'm glad that we I hope people make it to the end. You know, we got we got it all out. We got all of our Spielberg discourse out. I just wish disclosure we disclosed it. Yeah. Was hit a little harder, but it doesn't. And that's okay. We got this back catalog that I'm going to be enjoying for the rest of my life. And that is the truth. Will Disclosure Day get a single Oscar nomination? No, no, I don't know. I guess I'll think 1 or 2 maybe, I don't know. No, no, none. None. He's going. None. I'm going. Maybe with one I don't know. We'll see if it joins that coveted list of movies that were not nominated, but w w podcast. Com find us on there. We're having a lot of fun on Patreon. What are you watching? Bonus Patreon. Come find us on there! You want to know what we think of obsession in backrooms? All we've seen them. We reviewed them on Patreon. Can hear us there. Go find Merchant podcast. But as always, thanks for listening and happy watching. Hey, Alex. Yes. Listen. I was like, that's it. That's what we're doing. Oh, Jesus. Hey, everyone. Thanks again for listening. 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