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From Trauma to Spiritual Sovereignty: An MK Ultra Survivor's Story
What lies beneath the surface of your consciousness? What if buried memories of a different reality—carefully suppressed and hidden—were waiting to be uncovered?
Morgan Rae Johnson's story shatters our comfortable assumptions about reality. In this riveting conversation, she takes us through her extraordinary journey as a survivor of covert government programs, trauma-based mind control, and memory manipulation. Recruited at just five years old following a traumatic experience that primed her developing mind for dissociation, Morgan was taken to a classified facility called "The Elitist Academy" near Fort Lewis, Washington, where she received specialized training alongside other children.
With unflinching courage, Morgan details how her consciousness was deliberately split through traumatic programming around age twelve, creating an alter personality designed for covert operations. She explains the sophisticated techniques used to maintain this separation—from hypnotic suggestion to electroshock therapy—and the self-destruct protocols programmed to activate if she ever began remembering. Yet against all odds, a profound Kundalini awakening at age thirty-three began unlocking these suppressed memories, initiating a seven-year journey of reclaiming her fragmented self.
What makes Morgan's testimony so powerful isn't just the disturbing revelations about shadow programs operating beyond public oversight, but the triumph of the human spirit it represents. Her story connects seemingly disparate dots between trauma, consciousness manipulation, advanced technology like "Project Looking Glass," and the extraordinary capacity for healing and spiritual sovereignty we all possess.
Whether you're familiar with concepts like MKUltra or encountering these ideas for the first time, this conversation serves as a bridge between documented history and hidden contemporary realities. Morgan's journey from victim to spiritual warrior reminds us that no matter how dark or fragmented our experiences, the light of our true nature can never be permanently extinguished. Ready to question everything you thought you knew about consciousness, memory, and reality? This conversation might just change how you see the world—and yourself.
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Take a deep breath and remember there's a power breathing you. This is your space of sanity in an evolving world, where we learn about spiritual law and how to apply it to our lives in a way that is practical and life-changing. This is where we remember truth to make the world a better place, one person at a time. I'm Claire Lottier, inspirational speaker, teacher of the technology of transformation and a certified life mastery consultant and spiritual growth mentor. Welcome to the Grace Space. What if the life you remembered was only part of the story? What if, buried beneath the surface of your consciousness were memories of a different reality? Beneath the surface of your consciousness were memories of a different reality, one carefully suppressed, manipulated and hidden from you. In this episode, we explore the extraordinary story of Morgan, a survivor of covert government programs, deep trauma and memory suppression, and I'm hoping that her story will build a bridge for those who are as yet oblivious to the fact that these kinds of programs exist, and have existed at least since the 1950s, because I was oblivious to for a long time and I was struck with horror when I realized what was going on, what was happening to children and, furthermore, how it was just one dot in a control matrix. I think some things are so horrible and traumatizing that we don't want to know about them. We don't want to admit to ourselves that this kind of thing is going on, but we need to look at these things. We don't want to admit to ourselves that this kind of thing is going on, but we need to look at these things. We need to have the courage to look at these things now. When I woke up to the reality of all this, I saw as plain as day a complex and sinister web that intertwines mind control, covert government programs, child trafficking and pedophilia, war, drugs, satanism, hollywood disclosure, religion, banking I mean so much more and the distortion of human history in an overarching, planetary control matrix. It's taken me some time to get over my own hesitation to share what I've been learning about these upsetting goings on, to say the least, but it was amazing to me that the more I became transparent in my own life and let go of what's false, the more I was able to see what was actually going on in the world. Just as we need courage individually to face our own shadow and integrate it, we need courage as a collective to face the dark truth about what's been happening right under our noses for so long to the most innocent among us our children and how that is all connected to global corruption of all different kinds. Morgan is here today to share her personal experience this is her life and shed light on the dark underbelly of this world. Ultimately, I hope you're going to be inspired because her story is a triumphant one. It's a story of resilience, of awakening, of the reclamation of her native esoteric powers as a human being, which we all share. The truth of her own existence.
Speaker 1:Morgan Ray Johnson is an ex-army and Space Force soldier, author and dimensional traveler who bravely served two consecutive 20 and back tours with the US Space Force. After being recruited from her position in the Army there, she reached the rank of commander, which is rarely held by women. As a child, she was recruited into the CIA's MKUltra program, where she received psychic training and was sent on many successful spy operations. This served to prepare her for later involvement in other secret branches. Morgan cares deeply about the disclosure of the true nature of reality and the cosmos and what's happening secretly underground in space and all around us that few people are aware of. She believes more people deserve to know about the forces that govern our world, like the benevolent civilizations that watch over us and the dark activities that unjustly exploit and harm vulnerable people. After the Space Force, morgan was attacked, discredited and bullied to remain silent, but she found the strength to speak out in the hopes of helping people conceptualize life beyond this planet and dimension, which she has personally and intimately experienced. And if she has the courage to come out and talk about these things and to be exposed and in a vulnerable position, then we owe her the basic respect of listening to her story and to consider what she's saying. She believes psychic senses are the next step in human evolution, but those skills need to be cultivated in as many people as possible for the world to change its current state and move towards a more fruitful and harmonious society.
Speaker 1:She's published the first part of a three-part memoir called Manipulated Memories earlier this year and works as an astrologer and empowerment coach. She remembers her other lives and knows that she and the other primordial gods of legend have been reborn, allowing her to travel into other dimensions and bring back hidden information that the world is now ready to see, from childhood trauma to sudden floods of recovered memories. Morgan takes us through her harrowing experiences with mind control. Morgan takes us through her harrowing experiences with mind control, secret training programs and the long road to breaking free. She reveals the methods used to manipulate perception, the hidden structures that operate in the shadows and how she fought to piece herself back together.
Speaker 1:But this is more than just a story of survival. It's about spiritual sovereignty, the power of the human soul and the journey to remembering who we truly are. Thank you so much, morgan, for being here. I'd like to start with a moment where you sort of woke up and realized at the age of 33 that you were recovering memories of let's call it a parallel life, even though I know that's not what it was. But can you describe what? What happened Like? What was the narrative of your life up until that point? And then what happened when you started having these memories just pouring in?
Speaker 2:started having these memories just pouring in? Yes, Well, that's a very interesting question for me. When I I guess, to put it into context when I was about five years old, I had an experience an essay experience with someone in the family, and so my mother convinced me that that never happened. So my mind was already convinced that I couldn't trust myself.
Speaker 1:So I can you, can you explain to our listeners who may not understand what that abbreviation means? Sa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was sexually assaulted, molested by a step parent, and this was. I went and told my teachers. The school found out, they put me in therapy and prior to going to the therapy, my mom had convinced me it never happened. I got in trouble. She said don't you ever say that, this you know. She convinced me to trust her over myself. So it really skewed my mind from being able to understand the truth.
Speaker 1:Okay. So when these memories started coming back, you must've had the same kind of self doubt.
Speaker 2:The self doubt was unbelievable and it took seven years of moving through the memories before I finally accepted them. I went back and forth. I had a really hard time trusting, believing, even trusting my spirit team, my spiritual world, my inner world. I went through a really intense experience with self-doubt, but what that's done for me is absolutely amazing, because it forced me to learn the truth and be solidified in the truth. Once I figured out what the truth was and it didn't change, no matter how much self-doubt came in. It couldn't be altered anymore.
Speaker 1:So it's been a very powerful tool came in, it couldn't be altered anymore, so it's been a very powerful tool. Wow, so, when you say that you learned the truth and that you verified the truth, how did you verify the truth for yourself?
Speaker 2:Well, there is a few different instances and we can talk about my moment of waking up. So my moment of waking up was a very intense. First Kundalini awakening, where I actually was paralyzed and all seven of my main chakra systems were activated and turned on by my spirit team. You can call them the entire building that. I was in a homeless shelter because that was my life prior to that was running around trying to cope with the intensity of my life. I had many sexual assaults, many violent people in my life, an ex-boyfriend who was super violent. So I was just running around the country from state to state trying to get my life together, get myself together, but using drugs to soothe myself and to cope. And so I ended up in a homeless shelter after I had actually been murdered by a group of men who had sexually assaulted me and then overdosed me on accident I woke up in the hospital. So I had one really intense, terrifying event happen after the next, prior to that Kundalini awakening, and it like broke open my mind to be able to handle more spiritual knowledge and start put together what was going on. During that Kundalini awakening I met my guides for the first time I was able to, so I saw my first clairvoyant image. I was guided after that, like during the next days of that, to look into the MKUltra program and then over the next few months, I actually witnessed a UFO sitting above the house I was at and so the homeless shelter.
Speaker 2:When I had the Kundalini, every human in that building got put to sleep. They were either put to sleep or just paralyzed to where they couldn't. They stopped moving, like the timeline stopped moving, which is there's a couple instances in my life where that happened, so that my activation wouldn't have been noticed by those other people, because it was so intense that I was like lifted off the bed and then fell and like went unconscious and then fell on the ground. So if I had a roommate at the time and if she would have been awake and seen that it would have freaked her out, she would not have been okay with it. So that's how they activated me and it was instant. From that moment on it was like memory after memory after memory of just it was intense. I didn't sleep much. I was very terrified, terrified of my life, terrified of what had happened. It was a scary road for about five, six years before. I just couldn't handle any more fear. I just couldn't take it.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, so we'll obviously come back to all of that Up until that point. So up until the point of that, because it sounds like it came back in a flood, really, all of this memory during this Kundalini awakening Up until that point, what was the narrative that you had for your life? I mean, did you have a lot of missing time already? Could you recount the story of your life in a linear way, or were you kind of confused about the linear narrative?
Speaker 2:I didn't remember anything eight years old and before my whole life, and I always thought that was really strange. We can talk about later why eight years old was so important. That's when the test began through the projects but and that's when, like, the splitting of consciousness happened. So there was, there was a space in my mind that held the memories that I wasn't aware of. So during my life I always knew that there was missing time. I knew that I had like intrusive memories that would randomly show up where I would just be standing, being like a teenager standing in my room and like staring out a window and like knowing I had jumped out that window before. And I don't mean like jumped out on to hurt myself, I mean to like sneak out or to leave, you know, or I would have memories of recalls of some of the testing that happened and I would remember watching these horrific videos or like really sad stuff that happened, and I always remembered that I had been molested when I was a kid and everyone in my family convinced me it didn't happen, but I had always spoke about it Like it was very interesting to me.
Speaker 2:Um, my life, the narrative was always just that I was a liar since that day that my mom convinced me I had an older sister and when she had said you know, morgan, you're lying about this, my older sister took and ran with that. So I was now a liar about everything and there was nothing you could trust about me. And so I just lived in this naive. I was so loving, so empathetic, so caring and crushed by how dark and sad the world was. My family was so neglectful that I was easily taken away. I was easily taken for a weekend or taken for a night or taken at different times, and no one ever asked where I was. And I was just so miserable and sad because of my family that they didn't care about what was happening to me, that I was angry. I was very, very angry and I spent a lot of my teenage years angry?
Speaker 1:Yes, I can imagine. So. Did you later come to the conclusion that your family, your parents, might have been complicit in the arrangement that? Or let's say that they had an arrangement with what eventually happened to you and the track that you went on, and the track?
Speaker 2:that you went on? That's an interesting question. That's not something I have 100%. I have some ideas about. The thing with dealing with this type of projects or programs is that people's memories gets removed. So even if at one time they said, yes, go ahead and take her, or they got paid for it, or I've seen, I've had some visions about my stepdad getting in trouble in the military because both my dad and my stepdad were in the military. I had, I've seen, some really intense stuff I don't know if I want to say that about his life, that's his stuff that he got in big, big, big trouble and so they kind of negotiated for me to go into the program because of that. But what really comes down to is they already knew who I was. They knew I was an older soul who is very powerful and that I needed to be tamed. So they kind of came and figured out a way to make that happen, whether they got my parents' permission or not.
Speaker 1:Okay. So when you say they and I know that the people who are listening have a million questions, because we're just sort of like putting up a 20,000 piece puzzle together and we're just starting with the edges here so when you say they, who are you talking about? Who are you referring to?
Speaker 2:Underground shadow governments, deep state CIA stuff like I can't give you. I know that it was CIA related. I do remember having conversations with other people about them. I know there was an Illuminati association within that expression of I don't and I think it's so. I want people to understand that it's not the entire CIA, it's not the entire you know system. It's not the entire government. This is a very small, very hidden, very classified experiment. It's an experiment. That's what it is.
Speaker 1:So how old were you when you were taken into the program and how did it happen?
Speaker 2:So I was five years old. They came it was directly right after the molestation case got closed. I went to therapy, told them no, that didn't happen. Literally the next day they showed up at my classroom, came and pulled me out into the hallway, took a blood sample from my finger and said I saw on the machine that it said 117 and O negative. So they were worried about my blood type, which is interesting. I haven't really looked into a lot of that.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:they were worried about your blood type. They were just interested in it. I think there's a few different blood types that are more empathic, more able to have these gifts, because what I would be initially doing was the remote viewing and remote to be a remote viewer Empathy is a really big. There's also different other psychic senses that can be used in that way, so that's just one portion of what they were looking for.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they came to your school. I assume you were just in a regular school at that point. Yeah it was kindergarten, were just in a regular school at that point. Yeah, it was kindergarten, kindergarten and they they took you out of class and, like teachers, allowed you to be taken out of class and taken to where.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they took me out. I'm sure they told him who they were. And when you say you're government official, they're like, okay, I mean there's no, they don't question that kind of thing. Um, they. And then, when we went to leave, one of the guys went back into the classroom and said don't markers absent. So I know that that was a way that they got to take. They could take me from school too, Okay.
Speaker 1:So this, what you just recounted, is this part of your recovered memory, or was this something that you had already heard?
Speaker 2:Okay, I couldn't the way that I handled life, so I had many like sexual assaults that happened over time. The only way that I knew how to deal with it was to act like it didn't happen. So my coping strategy for trauma in life was to act like it didn't happen. So even when I did remember stuff or did know things were messed up or did recognize that cars were following me, or like I just couldn't handle it. It was too intense for me so I just ignored it.
Speaker 1:Okay, and of course that's what they're counting on right, Because trauma, and I find it interesting I'm sure you've already considered this or been asked about it too, but I find it interesting that the sexual assault that occurred when you were five years old, you know and then the next day they, these shadow gov people, show up the, the did you say it was a family member or family friend? I'm sorry, family friend.
Speaker 2:It was a family member, but I do believe it was more than one person.
Speaker 1:More than one person? Yeah, okay, because, as we've come to learn, a lot of mind control happens through trauma, and specifically sexual trauma before the age of seven or eight years old, because of the effect that it has on the brain. So I mean, is there any possibility that this, that this sexual trauma that occurred, was a kind of initiation into what would become your program training?
Speaker 2:Yes, it primes the mind, and I do believe that anyone who went through MKLTRA or had any type of dealings with these projects would have experienced that same thing. It's because the mind is so protective of itself at that point. Right, it has to. It has to learn to live, right, and it's prior to creating an identity. So, in order for it to live, it's going to create a separation of that reality and then what it's dealing with in everyday life. So it begins the process early of that separation of consciousness.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and which they now call dissociative dissociation or dissociative process in the brain. Okay, so when that occurred, when you were five and you were taken out of class and your blood was tested and you left school at that point and they said not to mark you absent, did you ever go back to that school or were you immediately taken someplace else?
Speaker 2:That day I was taken someplace else, but I did go back to school. They did very much keep up a. I wasn't in school a lot. I'm going to say that If you were to get my records it would I mean even if I just didn't have the type of family consistency to be going to school normally, and I did the best I could. I was switching schools all the time they you know it was easier for me to be switching schools because I kept getting in trouble for truancy, but they took me to the elitist academy, which was the ultra soldier programming academy. What would you call it Campus? You could call it campus. It was a large building that was directly created for us in that program. Specifically, what?
Speaker 1:part of the. I'm sorry to interrupt. What part of the country were you in so?
Speaker 2:it was near Fort Lewis, so Washington State. At the time that school I was in was in Portland, so it was a couple hours away.
Speaker 1:Okay Okay, so this was Washington State and you were then taken to. They called it the elitist Academy. Is that what they called it?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what. So a teacher took me, took me around like a little tour, and she told me it was called the elitist academy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah and did. Could anybody have known about this school, or was it just like a kind of a secret?
Speaker 2:oh, it was such a secret. It had barbed wire fencing. It was not. There was no. There was cameras everywhere. There was no, um, it was mostly. I mean mean, we had a few classrooms, there was like a remote viewing room. There was medical, there was a lot of medical rooms, because there was definitely a lot of drugging happening. There was electroshock therapy happening. There were scientists everywhere. They were. You know, this was an experiment. This was a social scientific experiment.
Speaker 1:Wow. So would you go home at night and sleep in your own bed, or did you? Were you on campus?
Speaker 2:Some nights I was on campus, some nights I was at home. It depends on when they could get me or how long. So there were some people set up. There was like actual family set up in town, in whichever town I was at, where I would end up becoming friends with their kids and then I would go spend a weekend with them and then I would end up being taken from them, because I remember their parents never being home, which was so strange. And I mean, this is when I was like 12 years old. So, um, sometimes they'd come get me after gymnastics practice and I'd just stay overnight. Um, it was. It was really sporadic, um, and it wasn't all the time, maybe once or twice a month. Uh, did really intense programming and then wanted to watch it play out. Anyway, they weren't trying to have us there all the time and this was just. We can talk about the programming when you're, when you ask that question.
Speaker 1:So OK, okay, yeah, it's trying to help people understand, like what this kind of? First of all, that this kind of thing occurs, yeah, second of all, what does it actually look like in the life of a child and a family? Look like in the life of a child and a family? Because obviously you were, you were being taken to special training and you were being kept places and you were sometimes living with other families and your family, I presume, was still at home going about their business and they seemed to acquiesce to the fact that you were involved from a young age in a life that was very different from other children your age.
Speaker 2:Yes, but it was. It wasn't abnormal for us, my old, I, had a sister who was a year older than me. She rarely went to school. She did go to school more than I did, but I rarely went anyway. I did not like school, I didn't want any part of it, so I skipped school all the time. My mother was not interested in what her children were doing. That's just a fact. Um, and whatever step parent I had didn't care either. So, um, there was no structure and there was no um dinner being made at night to notice when I wasn't there. It just that's I. It's just not the home life I had.
Speaker 1:I was in a perfect situation for this type of thing to happen home life I had, I was in a perfect situation for this type of thing to happen. Right, okay, I've previously read, studied, been told, spoken with people who have reported that, yeah, that for some of these kinds of government programs or secret programs, they're looking for children who have the kind of background where their parents are not going to really question, ask too many questions, or they're being compensated financially. Okay, so that was your situation. So how many other children were in your school, in the elitist academy?
Speaker 2:There were different levels of it. They're in my class and a class that usually goes by age. So the age group within I think it's within like five years of each other or something that's my guess at this point stays together and becomes a unit, becomes a team over time. So always those people are going to be working together. You do move up from, like, say, when you're five to eight. That's like that's the training period where you're not getting the same type of team building. You're just working on, they're just programming you.
Speaker 2:But after eight years old, it starts to you get the trauma bonding. You start to get the trauma. Um, I'm trying to think of the right word for it. They're trying to build strength through trauma, which sounds silly, but they wanted us to be able to handle traumatic instances. So they would put us in traumatic instances and then we would be doing that together or in succession from each other, so we could support each other through it. There were four boys with me. Normally there were three of us that went on missions together two boys and then me. I don't have a lot of my memories of the actual missions themselves. Those started when we were like 15 years old and those were not something I was very happy about. The altar had already been created at that point, but that gets into a whole nother questions.
Speaker 1:If you want to go there, yeah, yeah yeah, definitely we do, but let's go there slowly. I want to help people understand. I've spoken about MKUltra on my podcast before. You know several, in several instances. You know MKUltra is one of those things that for a long time people said oh, it's a conspiracy theory, there's no such thing. Blah, blah, blah. Right, no, of course we know that there was a program called MK Ultra and that it was supposedly ended in 1973, 74, around that time. But it reminds me of those old, you know those Jason Bourne movies where they just, you know, they have Treadstone and then, you know, they get caught and so they break it down and just create a new program with a new name and say no, no, no, that's over, so we're not doing that anymore, when they clearly are.
Speaker 1:So can you explain? I mean, presumably when you were a child you had no idea that there was anything called MKUltra, that there was any, you know you didn't as a child. You don't know that it's the CIA, you don't know, you know what agencies are involved. You're just trying to survive a situation. But as you get older and you're coming up through these kinds of programming mind control, curricula, I guess, for lack of a better word um, you must come to realize that you are different from other kids that you might see in the regular world. What, what was that like? How did you put that together in your mind?
Speaker 2:So that's an interesting question too. Yes, I've always felt like an outcast anyway, because so the family unit at home my sister and my mom got along and I had a younger sister and they so my younger sister and my older sister all and my mom all had blonde hair and blue eyes. My younger sister and my older sister and my mom all had blonde hair and blue eyes. I was the only one that had dark hair and dark eyes, so I was already outcasted. They made fun of me for that. They said I was, you know, the ugly duckling, and so that was a natural feeling for me. I already felt strange, out of place, things weren't correct. I knew things weren't correct in my life.
Speaker 1:Um, when your sisters, your sisters, were not in these programs. Your sisters were in regular, in regular quote, regular life.
Speaker 2:They were. They were manipulated at times by the program. Um, my sister was brought in one time to make sure that she wouldn't support me, so she was programmed to become I mean honestly, to become like an enemy for me. She definitely took that on. I don't think that that was her fault. That is just the nature of the game that I was playing, even though I didn't know it.
Speaker 2:But I do want to go back to what you said about like being in the actual elitist academy, like it was fun. We had fun. They spoiled us. We got whatever we wanted, we had toys, we had candy, we had games. You know this wasn't it was very well hidden what they were actually doing, you know. So there wasn't this like desire. I wasn't terrified the whole time. We had these moments that were really scary, but they were teaching us that we were super human, we were stronger than other people, we were better than other people. You know that narrative was just being shoved into our heads that like we're special, this is being done for a reason and we're out to get bad guys and like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they were, yeah, training you guys to save the world and telling you that you were special, that you were superheroes, and so that was. It was just understood by all of you that that you know that was part of the training. You know that in order to be the best, you had to go through some really hard stuff. Yes, yeah. So were you? Were you sworn to secrecy or confidentiality about the program? Were you, were you told like you could never talk about this outside of the school or yes, 100%.
Speaker 2:Um, but that was only necessary until this the altar was created, Cause, once the altar was created, all of those memories went to that and there was no. I didn't, I didn't even know what was going on. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about that, okay, okay. So let's talk about that, this idea that that memory can be manipulated, that that an alter right, so an alter ego, or another personality, or more than one personality, can be created through trauma and through programming. And you know it's, it's funny. I just have to point out that you know you talk about what they were doing in school. You know they were programming us, they were programming us and but I, I the. The irony is that we're always being programmed, I mean it's we're here.
Speaker 1:Here we have the um, the advantage of listening to your story, which is so um, extreme and so um I I think some people will find it hard to believe.
Speaker 1:Probably, um, but one of the one of the reasons that I wanted you to come on to the into the gray space and talk about it is because the truth is we are all being programmed all the time and we don't realize it because we're so used to it. It's more subtle and you know, we think that's just the way things are right Because humans are very adaptable. But what you have been through and recovered from and turned into, you know your spiritual strength, superpower of a different kind is is so extreme that it makes people. It's shocking to a lot of people, but I think it can help us become aware of the fact that you know this. This may seem extreme to a lot of people, but I think it can help us become aware of the fact that you know this. This may seem extreme to a lot of people, but but actually, mind control, manipulation of perception and memory are very well mastered in the world and have been for a long time, and that we are all to some degree subjected to all of these things.
Speaker 2:So could you please talk about um the, the altar yeah, so the altar was created through the, both using suggestion or hypnosis, which is the same thing different techniques of playing into the subconscious mind while trauma is happening. So I remember the moment that the altar was actually created, which is quite a fascinating experience to remember. They put me in the remote viewing room, they asked me to watch a movie and one of the handler was was sitting with me and they had me put on headphones to watch this movie of two men raping and killing a woman. And so I was watching this, as you know, woman. And so I was watching this. As you know, a teenager, a young teenager, maybe like 12, 13, something like that, and I could hear in the headphones like commands being being said over and over, and I could hear that it was repeating over and over and over and over. You know, I even asked the guy next to me. I was like I don't know what's going on, something's in my earphones, and he's like Nope, it's fine, everything's fine. And like that was the moment of like witnessing such a brutal thing, and like that the hypnotic suggestion to separate had finally, like I just remember that being I could. I can even feel it now that there's still this separated line in my consciousness that holds back still some of those memories, because I have to be prepared to be able to handle the memories that are going to come up. And it's so. I mean, I have so many years of memories that are coming up because of the SSP that I it has to go slowly over time, like there's just I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to handle the pressure and intensity of remembering everything all at once. But she was so the idea of the elitist Academy to. They had two separate programs, right, or programs not the right word, no-transcript, not catch attention in the world, like that was the goal.
Speaker 2:And then these alters, my alters name was Mia. She was everything that, the exact opposite of that. She was wild. She was willing to do things that nobody else was willing to do. She had no emotions whatsoever. She was very I mean her. Her emotions were only maybe anger, frustration, things that were useful tools for fighting or for gaining intel or being manipulative, whatever. She was more. I was a gymnast most of my life and so she was more willing to like. They made her learn how to pole dance when I was like 10, you know, like these were very useful tools for them to be able to get in and be used in different ways. Usually, it was about intel getting information.
Speaker 1:Okay, so at what age was the altar Mia created?
Speaker 2:What age was the altar Mia created? Well, me watching that film. I believe I was 12. And I don't want you to quote me on that one because it's in the book and I do think it was 12 years old. There were a couple different tests that were really really extreme. That happened one after the next tests that were really really extreme. That happened one after the next. And those tests really solidified that altar becoming fully functional. Because they were so intense to to be a part of that, I can no longer handle it.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, um. Did you understand or realize what was happening to you?
Speaker 2:did you understand or realize what was happening to you? I always knew things were messed up and I always knew that everything was connected like that. There was something going on that was beyond me. I always felt like a puppet, like somebody was pulling the strings in my life. And they were, and I just didn't. Because of that mistrust and that self-doubt, I couldn't put it together. It was very much all set up and lined up in a way to make sure I couldn't put it together.
Speaker 1:It was brilliant.
Speaker 2:Okay, it was brilliant. I'll give them that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like evil, evil genius. Yes, yes, so I mean, I read it before, right.
Speaker 2:They knew what was going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so presumably there were schools like this all over the world.
Speaker 2:Who knows? Yeah, very possible. I mean, there's just no way to know that. The only problem with saying that is that the level of classified and the amount of money they spent, like it's kind of. I guess we just kind of learned in the world that money can go missing pretty quickly. So yes, it's very possible. I'm not sure how many. I honestly I know that we oh sorry, my chair Um, uh, I know that people came and flew in from all over the world to come train with us. I know that was a thing, but I couldn't tell you how many how many?
Speaker 1:Okay, so, um, let's jump ahead a little bit. Have you, um, have you stayed in touch with anybody that you went through this training with? Have you seen anybody since then that you went through?
Speaker 2:all of this with? Again, that's a tough question. Have I seen them? Yes, do they remember? No, and for them because, like I said, it was with boys right In my book I talk about it. Those boys were turned against me and we were kind of turned against each other because the goal was that we would destroy each other. Um, they ended up becoming not nice people. To me terrible. It was actually really really traumatic and, um, I feel for them. I feel for them when they do wake up, because I know they will. I've already seen that that that's going to happen. Um, it's going to be a really tough experience for them to remember everything that went down, because they, like I, went into the SSP but they went overseas and were parts of wars and, um, they had a different story than I did, but they still had a just as intense wild story than I did.
Speaker 1:So are people who go through your experience not meant to live very long?
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, and there's different ways that that is accomplished. They're not meant to live at all honestly, once you're no longer of use, you are meant to leave. I think that our team was. I kind of think they knew they couldn't kill us. I think they tried I know they tried, but we are all very strong souls that got put in a team together and so they wanted us to destroy each other and ourselves. So there was a self-destruct programming that was going on and we haven't really talked about like the type of programming Did you want to talk about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would like to know about. I would like to go back and talk about that, but first let me just ask you. So I mean, I'm in jumping forward in my mind. I'm thinking they're thinking okay, well, eventually these people will destroy themselves or they'll destroy each other and we won't have to worry about them. Either they will completely have no memory, or they will lose their minds and self-destruct, or they'll be killed, whatever. So they're not counting on the fact that you're going to recover your memory, put the pieces back together and reclaim your own spiritual sovereignty. That's not what they would wish for, I'm imagining your own spiritual sovereignty.
Speaker 2:That's not what they would wish for. I'm imagining that's the opposite. When I was 15, I was taken to a underground facility where they found out that I would remember and that I would start to become a problem for them. They learned once. They learned that there was direct um, I wouldn't say self-destruction, self-sabotaging programming. That was initiated directly after that.
Speaker 1:Right. So you would actually have an impulse to kill yourself if you were going to reveal and you overcame that programming.
Speaker 2:Yes, that and self-doubt and all the fear, just anything they could, anything they could find, yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow, morgan, I just have to take a moment because that's really, really, that's really powerful, that's really it's still there.
Speaker 2:Even even when I have like I'm going to come talk to you, or if I have an interview with someone else, or I have something about the book or something come up, that programming still shows up in my life, where I wake up feeling this dread of like, don't do it, don't do it. You know it's this. It's always trying to push me not to keep going forward, but it does get me.
Speaker 1:Well, and I suppose that on some level, even if it's not to the degree that you have had to deal with, we all have those. You know those barriers, you know self doubt, not being fully yourself, you know not being able to honor what you really are as a human being. So what we are as human beings is so glorious and so great, and and they've had to throw every, everything at us to suppress that.
Speaker 2:And it hasn't worked. You're right. You're right I to try to explain to you and to everyone else like when I see you, I see angel wings and when I see my soul, my soul is bigger than the entire cosmos itself, Like I am but a fracture of fractal point of that soul. It's still me. I'm still that. That's still what I am. You know what I mean. I was just.
Speaker 1:I was just I mean the, the podcast episode before this one, those were my exact words. I mean and, and I, I, I that is, it's what is so beautiful about you know, the, the glory of your uh recovery, your, your re member member membering, uh, putting yourself back together again, um, and, and I'm sure that you know you do have those those things to still. You know those little barriers to overcome when you go into a situation like this. But, like I also asked myself and I would like to ask you, I mean, are, are you concerned ever that that you're going to be attacked, or that what kind of risk you're taking by having a conversation with me or somebody else about these things?
Speaker 2:I don't have any fear left for them. If something's going to happen, it's going to happen. But I promise you the amount and the years of the intensity of the fear, like over time there becomes a threshold. I could not. I mean when I say the intensity of the fear, I mean like not being able to leave the most center part of a house because I couldn't be near windows, because I couldn't. You know, I was terrified, I was gonna be shot at any moment, like because I had people actually come up to me and say we're going to kill you. You know, um, the fear can only there's to me. There are emotional thresholds, of emotion, like once you feel and I think that comes with age too, right, as we get older like you just don't care anymore, like my entire goal in life's purpose. Once I remembered the hospital, because the hospital I remembered in my conscious, waking life. I don't know if you know about that, but I was trafficked.
Speaker 1:The hospital, the hospital, yeah, taken in a freight truck down to Mexico from a hospital in San Diego. It was all just part of the trauma they were. Just they kept traumatizing me over and over again to try to get me to kill myself, and so that was just one aspect of it, but I forgot where I was going with that. It is Mercury retrograde. Oh, we were saying how you know, like at some point you just you don't, the fear just kind of disappears, like whatever they're going to do, they're going to do, they can't, they haven't, they never broke you. I mean, they tried, but oh, the book, the book was the point right.
Speaker 2:It was like if I can live long enough to create this book, then the story is told and whatever happens to me, listen, I know how good it is. On the other side, I get to experience spirit in the most miraculous, beautiful ways. I get to go into other dimensions. I get to see myself in other timelines. I get to go to my other lives that are happening right now. In other timelines, I get to go to my other lives that are happening right now, like death isn't real. So I'm not scared to die. I don't have. I don't? They probably hate that.
Speaker 1:Well, that this is, you know, opening up this conversation is opening up on a whole other amazing vistas that that I would love to get to eventually. Um, can we go back? Can we go back into the past again, and you mentioned, you know, the different kinds of training that different people received, like what was the? What was the training?
Speaker 2:Um. So for alters, the training would be like magical symbols. It would be Tai Chi. It would be even like ballet. To be graceful, even the guys did ballet. Um, obviously there'd be like shooting. The guys were trained to clean up things, you know. Um, definitely you know they would learn to hurt people if they have to. For me there was also pole dancing stuff. There was anything that also being able to like manipulate, there was lots of you know manipulate to seem one way and be another. It was, but for the rest of the time it was things like chess. I mean, being smart was such a big deal. So it was knowledge, information, spiritual knowledge, occult information, reading books, that kind of stuff. If we weren't, and right.
Speaker 1:right, I'm excuse me, I'm just imagining the teachers in different gifts, right, different things that they're going to be strong in. How early on did they know and this is the other question I have they came to get you out of school when you were just a baby. So does each human being have a unique energetic signature that can be read, and do we currently have technology that can identify those signatures?
Speaker 2:Good question, not 100% sure, in that they have machines that can show the future so they can pinpoint certain people who are going to be of significance. They can find that through other people, right, if you check somebody so it's called the project looking glass and they put these wires on you and use this type of mercury. It's like this special type of mercury that puts up a screen and it'll show you your future and you can move forward and backwards in time. And so if they put that on someone out of who they know is going to be a part of something else, they can search and look around and find who the problems are.
Speaker 1:Then they can find that person and find who the problems are, then they can find that person. So I think that's how they found me. I see, I see, okay, um, so project looking glass yeah, this is something I've I've heard of, uh, more recently too, and, um, I mean so when, when we say the future, we're talking about probabilities, or because about the most probable, most probable outcome of the most probable timeline based on current, the current situation yeah, there are many timelines happening all the time and that's how they get um people out of they.
Speaker 2:They can take bodies out of one timeline and put it, put the consciousness, in another, which is how I got home from SSP, but that's jumping ahead.
Speaker 1:Right, everybody. So I know you're probably wondering what is the SSP, unless you've already gone down this rabbit hole, this rabbit hole? Um, this is something we will get to, um, but but for now, okay. So so we, uh, so we know that there are programs like MKUltra whatever name it is known by now. We know that there are secret initiatives and um programs, um, that are kept concealed and top secret, that operate under the cover of shadow and that have been among us for a very long time and that they presumably continue to operate. Do you know any different, morgan?
Speaker 2:Why would they stop if they knew it worked? It only got better, it only got more underground and it only, it only got darker because it went underground. So if it's, if something like when you start to get, you start to understand things fester, and if the truth isn't out there, if the dark will, it will fester into a darker and darker and darker and darker thing the building blocks of creation of this universe.
Speaker 1:The building block is light and because it goes on both sides, because of the wave, the sine wave goes on either side of the line we know that we have to experience and bring together and integrate polarities, and the higher we go in the light, the darker we have been. I guess we could say is one way of putting it. Your life is certainly an example of that. So okay, so they identified you somehow, they came to get you, they trained you, they programmed you and you didn't really have any say in the matter. It doesn't sound like Like you know. Actually I don't want to do this. Can I please go back to regular school, right? Yeah, I mean, did you ever try to get out of it? Did you ever try to be like, did you ever try to get out of it? Did you ever try to be like, did you? Did you ever try to question it?
Speaker 2:or yes, I questioned it the whole time, probably around 14, 15, I was done with it. I didn't. It didn't feel right anymore. It was very shallow. There was no emotions there. I didn't know why scientists were everywhere Um the E. They even manipulated the altars. It's not like they were telling us the truth of what was going on. Um, she didn't know about me. I did not know about her at the time. Um, so your altar.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she knew about Morgan, but Morgan did not know about Mia.
Speaker 2:Yes, and she thought it was really messed up that I was so miserable. She could feel that I was miserable and she's like you know, she's like why? Why does Morgan have to be miserable for us to do these things? You know, because they tell us we're helping the world, we're getting bad guys. You know, because they tell us we're helping the world, we're getting bad guys. You know this kind of stuff. And she's like well, that doesn't seem like enough of a reason for part of me to have to be so miserable. So I absolutely I mean, I was shunned for it. I've always been a very rebellious human being, so if I don't like something, it's not going to happen, and so that's why eventually they they gave me a contract to get out because I wouldn't stop complaining, and then they found out that I was going to be a problem in the future after that trip to that the looking glass.
Speaker 1:In case you're wondering, the looking glass that Morgan just casually referred to is a classified research initiative involving advanced technology capable of viewing probable future timelines using principles of quantum mechanics, consciousness and exotic energy fields Exotic energy fields, as they's a word that's often used now. Exotic technology Well, we're talking about really far out futuristic stuff that we already have. So the looking glass is described as a device that utilizes electromagnetic fields and rotating energy vortices. It allegedly allows users to observe and potentially influence future events. So there are reports that suggest that intelligence agencies have used it for geopolitical forecasting, technological control, societal influence. I wouldn't put it past them. I wouldn't put it past them.
Speaker 1:Around 2012, and that is the dawn of the Aquarian Age, the official start of the Age of Aquarius, all timelines reportedly converged into a singular, unchangeable outcome, which signaled an inevitable global transformation. All right, so this idea gets backing from various experts like Dr David Anderson, a physicist who digs into time control tech. Plus, there are interviews with people like Dr Dan Burish. I don't know if I'm pronouncing his name correctly, but he is a former intelligence officer who talks about projects that deal with these timeline merges. Their stories and research make this whole 2012 timeline convergence thing pretty fascinating and worth considering. So it's linked to remote viewing, which we'll talk about more time, manipulation experiments and reverse engineered technology.
Speaker 1:The existence of the looking glass raises profound questions about reality, free will and hidden scientific advancements. And, ladies and gentlemen, this is only the beginning, as Morgan continues to share her story in our next episode with her, we're about to step closer to an even bigger revelation her time in the SSP, the secret space program, what she saw beyond Earth and the battle for freedom. That extends far beyond what we've been told. Stay tuned, because you're about to get the inside scoop on Morgan's time in the great beyond. It's a story that proves that truth really is stranger than fiction, especially nowadays.
Speaker 1:I want to call your attention to the Q&A link in the show notes, where you can feel free to drop your questions, as always, and I also want to refer you to the show notes where you can find links to Morgan's website, where you can purchase her book Manipulated Memories and learn more about how she helps people as an astrologer and a spiritual guide. She is an amazing human being who's a living example of the power of the human spirit to overcome, and she has a tremendous amount to give. So be sure to stay tuned for the next episode we have with her. We tell part two of a three-part story. I'll see you again soon, Meanwhile walk in grace. Thank you for joining me in the grace space, where you're always in the right place. If you love this podcast, I invite you to subscribe to it and submit a review if you feel called to do so. Also, be sure to sign up for my newsletter using the link in the show notes. I look forward to spending this time with you again next week, Meanwhile walk in grace.