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Beyond Earth: One Woman's Journey Through Space and Healing
Join me for the culmination of my extraordinary conversation with Morgan Rae Johnson, a woman whose journey through trauma, space, and multidimensional awakening will forever change how you perceive reality.
Morgan reveals breathtaking details about life beyond Earth - from Venus's magnificent cities accessed through dimensional doorways, to Mars's underground caverns populated with diverse beings, to Saturn's solemn monuments honoring extinct species.
She describes cosmic councils where thousands of beings from across the galaxy gather to coordinate assistance while respecting planetary autonomy, painting a picture of our solar system as a vibrant, interconnected community.
What makes Morgan's testimony truly remarkable isn't just where she's been, but what she's become.
After returning from two tours in the Secret Space Program with no memory of her experiences, Morgan endured further earthly traumas that ultimately cracked open her consciousness. The very darkness that threatened to destroy her instead activated extraordinary gifts - clairvoyance, astral travel, and the ability to perceive multiple dimensions simultaneously.
Morgan's healing journey offers profound wisdom for us all: "The more dark you integrate, the more light you can experience."
Today, she channels her experiences into creative expression through writing, music, and art while serving as a walking transmission of unconditional love. Her message of radical forgiveness challenges our cultural attachment to judgment, suggesting our greatest liberation comes through releasing judgment of self and others.
Whether Morgan's cosmic tales confirm something you've always sensed or introduce possibilities that stretch your imagination, her simple yet powerful mantra remains universally applicable: "I transmute this energy into love with love."
This conversation invites us to remember that we are infinitely more than we can imagine - multidimensional beings having a temporary human experience in a universe pulsing with sacred intelligence.
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Speaker 1:Today's episode is the third and final part of my conversation with Morgan Morgan, a multidimensional experiencer, survivor of MKUltra and the Secret Space Program, a woman of extraordinary insight and spiritual strength. This is not just a continuation, it's a culmination. In this final chapter, morgan is going to share her experiences on Venus, mars and Saturn yeah, the multidimensional nature of the cosmos and the sacred intelligence of life that exists across realms. We also touch deeply on her healing journey, how, through unthinkable trauma, she awakened extraordinary gifts and how she now lives as a walking embodiment of spiritual alchemy. I want to acknowledge you, the listener, for your openness. It takes real courage to entertain information that flies in the face of everything we've been taught about history, about reality and about what it means to be human. Thank you for walking with us through this conversation. As always, I invite you to listen with your heart, take what resonates and allow the rest to stretch your awareness.
Speaker 1:Morgan's testimony is both otherworldly and deeply human and I'm honored to hold the space for her here and deeply human and I'm honored to hold the space for her here. I mean I'm thinking about how difficult it is, how challenging it is to organize leadership on Earth and you know initiatives and coordinate things. Who was? Who decides like? What decision making bodies are operating out there in space, with all of this infinite number of beings from infinite worlds? I mean, who is deciding what the directives are and why? What are the priorities? Is what's going on here on Earth a priority?
Speaker 2:what's going on here on earth, a priority. Priority meaning they want to make sure that the planets themselves can evolve and can evolve at a pace that is natural and yet supported. You know, they don't want anyone to be just hanging out amongst themselves with no support whatsoever. So we are being supported. There are councils, organizations. There's no one person, there's many levels.
Speaker 2:I was only in the military, in the military like portion of that. So I did get to see I was at three other places. So I went to Mars and I went to Saturn. On Saturn I actually started to get involved with some of the bigger groups where the bigger higher ups of the galaxy or the solar system or people that were really in charge. But it was thousands of beings, it was not. There was no one, anything. It was many, many beings that would come together and discuss what would be the best route for, say, getting Mars supplies, getting Earth new ideas was a big thing for Earth because they try not to interfere with what's going on here. But they can give suggestions, you know, and give people like me. You know, give us suggestions, give us contactees, different routes and ways to work with each other and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So right, so I'm also thinking about okay, so are all the planets in our solar system inhabited?
Speaker 2:Well, I know Mars, venus and Saturn are, I believe, jupiter is the other ones, I'm not sure. Okay, maybe, probably, it's just on a different dimension that they would be inhabited.
Speaker 1:Okay, maybe probably, it's just on a different dimension that they would be inhabited. Okay, so can you explain that to people who like yeah, because when we see images from you know, the various satellites that we've sent out, or the mars rover or whatever, it doesn't seem like anybody could be living there yeah, when I talk dimensions, this is one of those ones that it gets a little.
Speaker 2:It gets a little out there. I like to explain it as a staircase and you can go up and down. You can also go left and right, and so, for when we're talking planes of existence, which is totally alternate, plane of existence is not going to be where I'm at in the space force, that's just. That's a whole, nother separate thing. But dimensions of time, dimensions of space, I can move from left to right. Meaning when we got to Venus, venus is to to go to where Venus is inhabited, you have to go to another dimension.
Speaker 2:So we suited up in these like little bubble things that gave us enough atmosphere to get onto the planet. We jumped onto the planet and there was a building looked like a little shack in the middle of nowhere, and we ran inside the side to that building and there was a triangle dimensional doorway that had been. It looked like it looked like space and time had literally been cut out with a, with a stencil, like it looked 2D, like it looked 2d, 2d, like triangle doorway where, when you walked through, you walked in, you walked from this like desolate, tiny little shack in the middle of this hot, dusty, terrible planet into a mega super city. That was just the most beautiful thing you'd ever seen in your life. Like 10 times better than the star wars movies, like the capital in the star wars, like just unbelievable beauty and um luxuriousness. Venus is a very high level, very evolved culture, civilization organization.
Speaker 1:That's where I want to go. I get a chance to visit off planet. Yeah, I've always had a thing thing for Venus. Okay, so that was in a different dimension, and so what are they up to over there? I mean, what are the Venusians, like some people say that tesla, uh, the? You know that nikola tesla was a venusian oh, interesting, I haven't heard that that's.
Speaker 2:That's a great idea. So there's many different beings there. There's many different beings on all planets. Um, there there are the originals, which you can't even say are original, because original to what I mean, it's all relative. It depends on how many millions of years you're talking.
Speaker 2:They live in the most beautiful way you could ever imagine, where everything is lifted off the planet ground so that nothing disturbs the actual planet itself. They live around and up the trees and they build around the trees and so they don't disturb any of the fauna, any of the animals, any of the vegetation. They live with and alongside the planet in a very natural way. But they also have giant skyscraper buildings, huge beautiful pools, the water sings, the trees can talk, the animals do not kill each other. They do not eat each other, which I always thought was really fascinating, that I think the reason that our animals eat each other is because we kill each other and that's really sad.
Speaker 2:But uh, there, it's not that way. They live very, um, I don't think there's even a whole lot of food and not a whole lot of eating going on there, because they've just gotten. There's a lot of Arcturians there who just live on light and energy solar energy they were. I was just being a security for some botanist scientists who were working on healing serums for the sick on Venus, so it was a very simple job and I was there with my girlfriend and her name was Sierra had some interesting experiences there. That was kind of wild, like some mantis being trying to impregnate me and things just strange.
Speaker 1:I don't mean to laugh.
Speaker 2:It's just sometimes I realize the conversation we're having. I know it, I know it.
Speaker 1:Wow Okay, I know, wow Okay. So, but how? How long would you say you were there on Venus?
Speaker 2:I think it was around five years. It's either it was between four and five, because I spent one year on that, the Stargate, which was Cortuse the name of the base was Cortuse, but so I think it was either four or five years, cause I believe my other two enlistments would have made 20 years, so it would have been five on Alpha Centauri, five on Mars, five on Saturn and four on Venus and one on the Stargate. That was my first 20.
Speaker 1:OK, so it's like a tour of duty. You know, each one is a stop on your tour of duty. Yes, I feel like my brain is almost like saturated. There are so many questions I want to ask, but at the same time I'm like I'm accepting all of this. You know, I mean it, just it's like not. It's it, on the one hand, it seems and feels like totally far fetched and on the other, there's the other part of me that's like, well, of course. Yeah, so you, you mentioned the Arcturians. You were working with these Arcturians, the botanists.
Speaker 2:Yes, they were beautiful. They were blue, they had pointy chins and they had gold tribal tattoos on their whole body. They were feminine, loving, caring. You could tell that every word they were saying was coming directly from the source of life, like just the the raw power of the femininity within them was. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1:It was very cool to be around, it was amazing. So what would you say? I mean with some hindsight and I know that you're still processing so much of this, but like from the perspective of the secret space program, like, what do they want to achieve? Do they have, what are their objectives when they send you guys out there? Um, you know what? What is it that they want to accomplish and contribute In?
Speaker 2:my opinion, the only way that they got to be a part of this is because they are being helpful. They didn't get to force their way out there, and I'm not saying a couple people didn't. I'm sure some people did right Force their way. But for this type of specific being a part of other things, I don't know, maybe they it's. I know that by the end, when I had a ship, we were helping supply different planets and helping different planets and that that, to me, is what seems like what was happening. It seemed like it was supposed to be that way. But I mean, mean, I don't know the full spectrum, like I'm not one of the people that has information on the galactic federation, or like I don't know, I only did the military stuff. Um, okay, or at least those are the memories I have right now okay, and so you rose to.
Speaker 1:What's your rank out there?
Speaker 2:So I rose to major but then became a ship commander when I had a ship grown for me.
Speaker 1:You had a ship grown for you. Tell us about that.
Speaker 2:So I had a piece of my DNA and skin sample embedded in the consciousness of the ship, so it was an organic, biological ship. It grew like bone just, and it took the first three months it was in a tube and it just you could see the bone structure of it. I actually did nice. Did I send you that presentation? Yes, yes, Okay, so there's a picture of it on that presentation. And then so after three to six months it was put into a hanger and it just it grew like tens of feet a day and I could intuitively speak with it because of that DNA and this. This goes back to like the MK ultra stuff is like that. They wanted my altar to be able to use it. So I yeah, I don't have all the memories of that, but I do know that's why.
Speaker 1:Okay. So were you acting as your altar when you were out in space, or were you Okay? So? Were you acting as your altar when you were out in space, or were you okay? So they trained that altar to have like, well, you were an ultra soldier, right, and so originally it could have been to perform missions on earth or assassinations or to get intel or whatever. But you ended up going into the secret space program and so that altar was no longer necessary.
Speaker 2:No, it wasn't necessary dominantly. So they were. They did use it a few times and that's where, like I said, those memories have still been kept for me. At this point I have to be matured to a space to be able to handle seeing if I hurt a bunch of people or like what happened, you know, Okay, Because I'm a very soft, like loving person, and so it's going to be. You know it's going to be difficult. I'm less judgmental of those types of things now, so I know I can handle it now, but it's just not. It hasn't happened yet. But yes, so she was taken out for specific events, but I was the dominant personality.
Speaker 1:I see, I see Okay. Is there an intuition about that?
Speaker 2:Like things that she did. Yeah, intuition about that. Like things that she did? Yeah, yeah, so well, when I remembered first that my ship was grown to be a fighter ship, like once, I realized that like I kind of intuitively understood that this was being used for a different purpose than what. I didn't want to fight anyone and I sure my dominant personality never would have. You could have tried to force me to, and that was not going to be. Not without some sort of coercion Was I going to be doing anything like that. So she had to have been the one using it for that purpose.
Speaker 1:I see, I see, yeah, so, um, they grew a ship for you. It was a fighter ship.
Speaker 2:Uh, this was for your second, 2020 and back or it was right at the end of the first one to keep me in because I wanted out.
Speaker 1:Oh, so why did you want out?
Speaker 2:I'm curious because it was so boring. It was so boring Because when I'm sure there are other reasons there's got to be more than just that. But for me to be a human, like, people didn't want to date me and I I that the girl Sierra, was only with me for those first few years and then the next years after that there was no no one to find companionship with or partnership, or I didn't really even have a lot of friends and I was just sad and miserable in that way. And I'm a creative, like I'm an artist, I like to paint and draw and like that's where I thrive and like that. That wasn't available to me there and so it just wasn't a life that I wanted anymore.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I guess once you, once you get used to the fact that you're in space and that you're meeting all kinds of other beings, you know you can still be bored there Like you could be bored any place else in a job that wasn't using your talents and skills. Yes, I mean, I love that we can even have this, that conversation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Um so so.
Speaker 2:So you were, you were doing lots of kind of mundane things, you know, in your capacity as a military representative that weren't necessarily you know what you were trained for actually build rapport with other races, because humans were kind of seen as these, like you know, problem children, and I only I'm not saying we are children, that's not what I mean at all. It's just that we don't get along with each other, and so that's kind of what we're known for is that we just don't get along. And so that was my original goal. But I ended up being security on Venus and then like a police officer on Mars. I wasn't, you're right, I wasn't doing the things that I thought I was going to be doing. But that's how it works in the military you just end up cleaning all day. That's what the military is.
Speaker 1:And what did you do on Mars? You said you were like a police officer. What's it like there? What is Mars like?
Speaker 2:Mars was not pretty, it was. It was like this it was all underground and in like ton, not tunnels but like big open caverns not tunnels but like big open caverns of like red and orange rock. And it was I wouldn't want to say desolate, but it was sad because the people there didn't have many supplies, they didn't have anything to do. It kind of felt like we called it Mars Max, like it was a prison planet just mining substances, but there wasn't a lot of money, so people were just begging and kind of living on the streets. There was no social ranking system. It wasn't really like taking care of the, the place at least where I was uh, and were these, uh humans that you're talking about, or martians, I mean, like?
Speaker 1:what kind of beings are they?
Speaker 2:So that's where I met the nine foot tall spiders, that's where the round, the general gelatinous ones were. There's like little tiny ones were there. There were robots that were there, um, just very all different kinds. There was few humans there. There was a couple, but not many okay.
Speaker 1:So, um, you know, um, many people say that, uh, you know, mars went through a kind of nuclear holocaust, or I don't know if it was specifically nuclear, but that there was destruction, you know was wreaked on the planet and that's what made the surface uninhabitable, and that this is part of the long forgotten history of our solar system and what happened and the planet that was blown up as a part of this, that became what is now the asteroid belt. You know that there's all of this lost history and that many beings from Mars came to Earth in the wake of that destruction, but this is so long ago that we don't really remember it. Does. Was there any talk about why Mars is the way that it is?
Speaker 2:No, and I didn't even really see. Like I said, I haven't really dug into the past information about all of this stuff. The water was undrinkable without filtration, so that would make sense. Filtration, so that would make sense. Um, and it just the, the way that things were there makes sense by just saying that, because even if it was on the surface, it would leak down until the to the inner parts of the the planet. So, yeah, that makes perfect sense. I do, in a way, like pride myself on not getting the information there. It will be a point when that is more important for me, but in a way it's like validating when people are like okay, well, I've heard this and it kind of makes sense what you're saying. I have, I have a mentor who he keeps showing me stuff like that. He's like did you read this book or have you heard of this person? They said the same thing and I'm like no, I don't want to skew my vision, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, again, I can. I can understand that. I respect that. Are there any other stories or things that stand out in your mind as important to talk about regarding your, your time out there?
Speaker 2:yeah, I want people to recognize how serious they take. When I say they, I mean, like other beings, take the policing or the care of not just our solar system but the entire galaxy. So, on Saturn, there is this base which I was talking about, where I saw like thousands of people getting together and talking about this space where how can we help each other? What can we do other? And on that base there is giant figurines of every species that has ever gone extinct. That, like sits around the outside of that building where those meetings are held, because it, like that, makes me like I'm gonna cry. Um, because they do recognize what they're fighting for and they really do care about each other. And it is important whether you like that species or not, or whether you get along with them or not, it doesn't matter. It's like everyone deserves to be here and be, have a chance and be alive and do the best they can.
Speaker 1:Wow, do the best they can. Wow. Profound message of honoring the uniqueness of every being, but also recognizing that it's about unity.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's come back down to earth. You did your two tours right and you're back. You're in the military. You don't remember the tours that you did. What happened to you after that?
Speaker 2:What happened to you after that? Well, it was quite a good. They picked a really good time for me to come back, because I had just started cheerleading for the army and so I had something to do. That was fun, and I think they kind of coordinated that in a specific way to make sure I had something. But I came back very anxious, very unhappy with my life. But I came back very anxious, very unhappy with my life. I was still with that boyfriend because I didn't remember that he had told me about this affair.
Speaker 1:So I stayed with him. He didn't remember being in space. No, he did not.
Speaker 2:He still doesn't, okay, no, and I don't know if he ever will, and that's okay, he doesn't have to. But, um, I'm not gonna, I'm not going into his story. You know, that's his life and I want him to. I hope he does wake up. But at the same time it's a harsh reality too, you know, um. But so when I I had that to lean on, which was really nice, I had a lot of fun doing that. But then I had that to lean on, which was really nice, I had a lot of fun doing that.
Speaker 2:But then I had another sexual assault happen in my unit, um, and surgeries on both of my feet. So I had bunionectomies on both of my feet and I got addicted to pain meds because it took like two years. The last two years of my enlistment they were giving me those pain meds without this was, you know, 20, 2005 or 6, where opiates were becoming a new thing and they were just handing them out to everyone and it wasn't a big deal and they gave me as many as I wanted and so it became my way to cope and so I couldn't. I was no longer because of those surgeries, I was no longer deployable. So they asked going to leave, about when I was going to leave. So like just one tragedy after the next kind of felt like it happened to me. And big things like human trafficking, my house burning down, being raped by people I'd been dating for years, like just intense wild stuff, one thing after the next, until that moment we had talked about in the beginning.
Speaker 2:So this is like full circle moment of where I had gone through so much that my brain could no longer handle that it was real. Like this fake, delusional idea of just this small world I had created. My brain was like no longer able to believe the. It just wasn't the facade of what I thought life was. And so it broke open to like you've experienced so much more in this life. You are so much more than you think you are. Life is more than you think it is. And I began to become clairvoyant, clairsentient. I began to open portals and create wormholes and be able to. I mean able to, I mean out of body experiences where I could like teleport to the center of the galaxy and come back. Um, and that was just a normal Tuesday. I'm like the most wild experiences that, over and over again, proved to me like you're not crazy, this is really happening. Like, yes, this doesn't happen to a lot of people and, yes, for a lot of people that's really hard to believe, but for me it's just the normal Right.
Speaker 1:So, in a way, I mean, is it accurate to say that all of the stuff that you went through, all of the trauma that you went through as a child, all of the training and the programming that you received and the experience that you had being in outer space and like, literally, in a much bigger world, in a much bigger world, would it be fair to say that all of that stuff awakened these latent gifts and activated that were? They were activated when the moment was right?
Speaker 2:Yes, and because of the intensity of the trauma, like you said in the beginning, the more the darker you integrate, the more light you can experience. So, like I've had these polar opposite experiences where I've been controlled and stuffed into a tiny little box and then exploding out into being able able to see the filaments of the entirety of the cosmos itself. Like I've gone past the multiverse, which sounds wild to people. I have experienced things that people can even. It just isn't a concept that would ever be thought of, ever be thought of. You know, I've been literal on other dimensions that are where you're literally a speck of paint, being just moving around in this just like beautiful, blissful state of just like what am I doing? Nothing, like the point is to do nothing. And that's just one example of, like all these wild experiences that I have all the time that that's probably been.
Speaker 2:It's all been worth it. That's what I want to say. It's all been worth it. I'm not upset about any of it. I do get attacks I do have to deal with like dense energy sometimes. The first seven years of this were really intense, or july will be seven years, but it is I'm. I don't regret a thing. I'm glad this, this all happened. It made me strong. It made me powerful and made me be able to witness myself in a way that not everybody gets to yeah, and and and to access your multi-dimensionality.
Speaker 1:I mean that's like and and to access your multidimensionality. I mean that's like and, and to have all of that experience here in this body, in this timeline, and and to be able to remember it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot to try to live a normal life, try to like walk around and have a regular job and like talk to people is like I just want to like hold them and give them a hug and be like listen, you're more than you have any idea, and yet they wouldn't understand and so it's just not my place and I it's it's a little bit in a fishbowl of like my own little fishbowl and everyone else is out there.
Speaker 1:Right, right, but I mean you do just vibrate that, right. So I mean you are contributing by just being what you are now, and I mean so from your spiritual, higher perspective. What, what do you intuit your fundamental purpose to be during this incarnation?
Speaker 2:Well, there is a one to create and inspire. So, inspire new thought, inspire new um ways of looking at things. And I also have this very deep forgiveness ability, ability that I want to give to others. There is judgment. Is this just sticky, nasty, terrible energy that holds back people from who they really are? And when we can find this true non judgment, neutral space, like then, then you can move to the higher realms of your multidimensionality, like. But until then, until you, you know, can have enough love in your heart to bypass that judgment self or others for anything, because there's like most, I'm going to say the majority of people believe you should judge people for something which is just not true.
Speaker 2:It's just. It's the opposite of what is supposed to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's, it's true. I mean, you know, I think we forget that sometimes. Uh, when you're in the, you know, when you're in the consciousness space of sharing, that you know that forgiveness is and non-judgment is, well, it's for you first of all, it's not for anybody else, you know. But we forget that, yeah, a lot of people still believe that judgment is necessary, and you know that if you don't, then people are going to get away with stuff or something like that, you know, or. But I mean again, it makes me.
Speaker 1:I want to bring it back to this metaphor of light, and it isn't a metaphor, it's the actuality, it's the reality, right? I mean, if we're creating everything with light here and if light is the construct of this universe, the most basic nature of light is going out and coming back, the sine wave, going out and exploring these polarities and then bringing them back together. I mean that's what the prayer gesture, the, the you know prayer, um, uh, mudra is right, you know, it's the bringing together of those, those polarities, and integrating them in your heart, and it's that, is the portal that moves us forward in our, in our evolution, and it's nothing to be ashamed of. You know, whatever you've been, or no matter how awful, the worst of the worst, the lowest of the low, it is the highest of the high. There is no difference. I mean there's no judgment in the whole universe, it's only in our own minds. So I mean that feels your life is like this pure expression of that principle, and that's true for all of us on some, you know, but when it's when it is so dramatically lived, it's just, it just just inspires awe and wonder.
Speaker 1:Wow, thank you for coming to do that. You know, like, thank you for having the courage to come down for this one, and you know, and to live this life and to have the courage then to remember it and then to have the courage to talk about it. You know, in in in an environment where a lot of people are not yet receptive to our multidimensionality and and and you know all that we are, it's just like one, you are an ultra soldier. I mean, you know, in in in the sense of being a spiritual warrior. You know, it's just, it blows me away, it really does. So tell us how, like, you've made this huge transition and you're still in it. I understand that, but, like you know, you've come through so much and you've integrated so much. You have rediscovered all of these psychic abilities and you're actively living with you know these heightened perceptions and heightened capacities and gifts. What is it that you, how, how are you taking all of this now and creating a new life with it? Where is it all being focused?
Speaker 2:Just getting through this book and I've written this screenplay. The screenplay is to inspire, is to take my gifts and the information of the book and, like, put it together so that I can show people what I see. I can show people what I hear, I can show people what it looks like to be out there or what it looks like to witness other people's emotions or to witness, you know, um, I couldn't put everything in one movie, but there there'll be another, just like there'll be another book. I love to write. I love to write music, I love to, you know, sing and to be creative.
Speaker 2:I do artwork of the things I see. I spend a lot of time giving love to things, giving love to the planet and to the earth and giving gratitude. Like I can feel that I'm a walking like battery, like that my battery is pulsating love all day long, and like that's all I'm really meant to do. Like everything else that I am inspired to do and I love doing is all beautiful and great, but me just being here, having these conversations with you, having conversations with just strangers, bringing an optimistic lens to the entirety of existence itself, it's like my, that's my walking mudra. It's like that's my walking expression of life.
Speaker 2:When I see someone, I will find something that comes through to talk to them, because when it comes down to it, for me, when we I think of life as the Trinity, it's the all which is love and light. It's the anti which is and light, it's the anti which is darkness and the nothingness which is what holds that expression right. So it's the round, it's the actual container that holds the light and the dark. And so this space that's what I'm in Like I encompass both of the light and the dark, and then I am this container of space for others to express themselves and to heal and evolve. I like it sounds strange, but I think people evolve just being in my presence. That sounds so wild.
Speaker 1:I completely. I this doesn't sound strange at all. Um, I can. I keep seeing a toroidal field, right, and I know that we all have a toroidal field and it's centered in our heart. Um, but that is what makes us, you know, it is true that in the presence of some certain people, you know we're always being influenced by other people's energy fields, but I mean, in the presence of some people who are master alchemists, you know, like you've been, you know and continue to be one who can metabolize darkness and into light, you know, somehow I don't know if I've expressed that properly, but that's the image that I get you know, is that you're taking these polarities and you're alchemizing all of it through the heart and that is extremely powerful and and as a generator, which we all are, you know, generators, but you're you're doing consciously so.
Speaker 1:Can people come, and I mean we're going to put the link to your website, your book and other resources in the show notes, obviously, because I know people are going to want to know all about you and the and the projects that you're working on, and I've had the privilege of reading at least the first part of your, the first half or three quarters of your screenplay, which, which is very hard to put down. I've got to say and I'm looking forward to reading the rest of it and the new part that you, that you've been working on Um, but you also work with people, don't you, you, you, you hold a healing space for people, um, in sessions, you work with clients. Is that right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I have been and I. Is that right? Yes, I have been and I I will continue to do that. So, yes, the sessions are available for me. I also do. I have book signings and Q and A's about the book specifically that is available, cause I know it's such a lot of information that people are going to have questions and that makes total sense. So it's it's on my website, those availabilities.
Speaker 1:Okay, wonderful, so we'll definitely point people in that direction. Is there anything else that you want to that you feel compelled to share?
Speaker 2:Well, I just wanted to say that. So the dark and the light, when they get transmuted, turn to gold, and the light, when they get transmuted, turn to gold. So that is the idea of alchemy is this inner gold, this inner strength, this inner love, it's all love, it all turns to love. Um, and that's what I alchemize is everything into love. And so to give people something practical that anytime they feel any kind of negative emotion of any kind and for any reason, saying I transmute this energy into love with love, I transmute this energy into love with love, and just repeating that over and over again, you will evolve yourself. The next time you get triggered by that emotion will never feel the same again. It will help people bring their power back to themselves. Also, I call back my power to myself from any timeline, dimension or reality where I have lost it. With love, I mean those two acts themselves will create and change the amount of power you can hold within yourself, and it can change everyone's life.
Speaker 1:Wow, absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much. It's wonderful to have something so simple and so practical as those, and I can feel that working in me right now. I transmute this energy with love into love. Yeah, yeah, amazing. Thank you so much, morgan. It's been such an honor to spend this time with you. Thank you for your willingness to open up, to share, to just be so naturally yourself. It's been a great privilege to have you in the grace space.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's been really nice to be here. You have such a beautiful energy. This was a really nice way to do this, so thank you.
Speaker 1:I want to take a moment to honor Morgan, not only for what she lived through, but for the way she transmits light through her words, her art and her being. Her willingness to speak, to feel and to walk the path of remembrance is a gift to all of us, and I want to honor you, dear listeners. It takes great courage to sit with stories that stretch the boundaries of what we've been taught to believe, to open your heart to possibilities that challenge the dominant narrative of history, reality and the human experience. Whether this conversation confirmed something you've always known deep down or whether it brought new questions into your awareness, thank you for staying with it. Thank you for allowing yourself to be expanded. If you were moved by what you heard, I encourage you to check out the show notes, where you'll find links to Morgan's website, her book, her creative projects. She also offers sessions for those who feel called to connect.
Speaker 1:Let this conversation be an invitation to hold yourself and others with more compassion, to transmute your pain into presence and to remember, as Morgan reminded us, you are so much more than you think you are. I transmute this into love with love. See you again soon. Meanwhile, walk in grace. Thank you for joining me in the grace space, where you're always in the right place. If you love this podcast, I invite you to subscribe to it and submit a review, if you feel called to do so. Also, be sure to sign up for my newsletter using the link in the show notes. I look forward to spending this time with you again next week. Meanwhile, walk in grace.