The Earth Is Healing Through Us | Poppy Joy on Trauma, Sovereignty & the Heart

In this tender and deeply human conversation, Claire speaks with Poppy Joy about trauma, remembrance, the mechanization of human consciousness, and the return to what Poppy calls “organic intelligence.”

Together, they explore:

the difference between the artificial and the organic
the intelligence of the heart
trauma, fragmentation, and healing
humanity’s disconnection from nature
the relationship between the Earth’s healing and our own
artificial systems vs. direct connection to Source
sovereignty, intuition, and inner knowing
how survivors often carry profound spiritual gifts
the awakening happening across humanity right now

This conversation touches on difficult subjects, including ritual abuse and systemic manipulation, but at its core it is a conversation about remembrance, compassion, and the extraordinary resilience of the human spirit.

Whether you resonate with every perspective shared or not, this episode invites you into a deeper contemplation of consciousness, healing, and what it means to remain fully human in an increasingly artificial world.

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Transcript

Welcome And Setting The Space

Claire 0:03

Poppy, I want to thank you for being here today. It's such an honor and such a pleasure to get to have this conversation with you.

Poppy 0:12

I'm really, really happy to be here with you. And I love what you're doing, and I love how you uh um your heart for the possibility of what we can co-create together after all of these eons of trauma and suffering.

Claire 0:31

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, Poppy, you're really a person who um you've lived through such an experience that most people would consider unimaginable. But you're certainly not alone in that. And um I would love it if uh if it's okay, if you would give us sort of the broad outlines of your life story and uh, you know, life, yeah, your life story, knowing that um for those who are watching, Poppy goes into great detail about her experiences uh on the Imagination podcast, on the Sean Atwood show. Uh, and so I encourage you to go and and watch all of those episodes that Poppy has done to learn, you know, about the details. But for our purposes getting started, because we also have some really amazing and beautiful things to talk about today. Um, I would love it if you'd if you would give us um

Poppy’s Background And Memory Return

Claire 1:30

whatever feels right to you as an outline just to just to give people an idea where you're coming from.

Poppy 1:37

Yeah, thanks, Claire. Yeah, so um my parents both immigrated from England separately, and my mother had been, she'd sort of grown up around the Rothschild, the Lion, the Lionel D. Rothschild estate in Exbury, England, and um been involved with them. Um, and they had both met in New Zealand here, and it seems that I got drawn into kind of like colonization rituals at a very, very young age. Um, my father had been he had served in the British Royal Marines during the war, and um yeah, so I did not remember what had happened to me until more so in recent years. Um I it it's sort of around 2017 it became undeniable in my mind that there had been um satanic ritual abuse, but I still hadn't really remembered the details of that. I was having flashbacks, my body was actually breaking down, and in the breaking down of my body, because our body holds all this trauma, I had to um I had to face what was underlying with that. Fortunately, I had um gone into like I'd trained to be a counsellor, I'd got involved in breath work, I had done Vipassana meditation, so I'd learned how to go in words, and I had learned how to connect with my body, and also was realizing that I was very disconnected and disassociated from my body, um, and that I actually started to do ashtanga yoga so that I would in an you know, in an effort to be able to stay in my body, um, but I still I was still dissociating just about all the time, um, because it's just it's absolutely incomprehensible what happens in these in these rituals. I won't go into the details today, but I think I've had like eight podcasts with Emma Catherine from The Imagination. And she she she's been one of my heroes in this life, really, because of the work she's done in really exposing this, because otherwise we we've never had a voice. Um and one of the problems is that if we go into the system to seek help, then we get further harmed. And they try to close us down and shut us down. And like in my 30s, I guess things were were coming up, and I ended up on masses of antidepressants and sleeping tablets and pain, pain medication, and you know, became a high user of prescription medicines, and I was like about um 30 kil uh kilos heavier than I am now, you know, just with all of that. Um but it was like and I I just the medications and everything just made me even further disassociated. I felt like I was kind of in a bit of a zombie state. I didn't, I was just like robotic, just doing my life, and it was it was it was not it was it it took away some of the urgency of the emotions that were coming up, but it just kept me

Malaysia Flashbacks And Body Breakdown

Poppy 5:30

really, really down and under. And then when I went to Malaysia on a house sit, so I had a partner at the time, um, and we had been made homeless um because we were both speaking up about the nature of the system, and they were really targeting us, and um we'd ended up homeless, but we we took on a house sit in in Malaysia um because it was an Airbnb and we were sort of working there that paid for our plane tickets and everything. And at the same time, I was doing a little bit of crystal grid work with others, it was a global kind of thing. There was people from around the planet that were were doing this crystal grid work, and when I went to Malaysia, I just because I'm such a hyper empath and I feel I could feel the child trafficking all around Asia, and I decided to that I was going to put the crystals into the into the water and into the ground with the intention that the trafficking could be healed. And little did I know that I started to have flashbacks and memories of my own experiences. So in doing that, it was bringing it up for me. Um and I got stung by a jellyfish, I had a big histamine reaction, I went into delirium, and and both my partner and I didn't know that I was going to make it through the night or not. Um and I didn't, I was in such a delirious state, it didn't even I I I didn't even care. It was like I was just he just kept me breathing and in the breath all all through that night. Well, I just had these flashbacks of of rituals and things like that, and um and then managed to get antihistamines um early that morning and and all those symptoms went away, but I but it sort of opened up, it opened me up to all the memories really coming forward, and I was having a lot of um physical, like I had all sorts of blockages in my head and my neck, um, and I was really whacked down coming back to New Zealand. I actually left my partner um when we when we were in when we were over in Malaysia. Um, you know, he had we had had some good times and we'd learnt a lot together, but with the pressure, his alcoholism really, really came up. And and you know, there's a lot attached to alcohol um that was really harming me and starting to harm me, and I needed to get away from that. But I had nothing, I had no money, I I had nothing. And um, so I came back, started to house it, forage, and then I had to get on to a New Zealand benefit um for survival, and uh that was hard because I had been a person who had been doing everything I could to kind of get the system off my back because basically the system has attacked me my whole life. Um, the rituals seem to be related to colonisation. I've just had memories, just even the last few days, which were involved with some of the big players in this world. I don't even really want to mention them, it doesn't matter. I have no respect for famous people um that are really just hijacking and taking our consciousness and using us. But um, yeah, more rituals were happening that were involved with some big players in this world, connected to England. Um, you know, I haven't totally seen all of that yet, so I haven't gone into the details, but these memories they keep coming through and they keep coming up, and they go deeper and deeper and deeper into the body. Um, like from I was listening to Amazing Survivor on Emma's show yesterday, Doug McIntyre, and he was saying that many survivors are shut off from the waist to the knees, and you know, I still experience a lot of that because there was a lot of um torture and abuse to do with that part of the body, and that's the hardest to connect with. Um, because when you go into the memories, it it's it's just a you feel like you're going to go insane. Um, it's absolutely horrific, cannot see the way out. I know that I just have to stay in my heart and it will be temporary. I have a beautiful connection with Mother Earth, and she personally told me that even when I don't feel her, she's always there and she's always with me. So I just I remember that in those times because I can't feel love, I can't feel anything. All I can feel is um it's like a hellish reality, and this is something that all survivors are going through and reclaiming their memories. So my main memories, they only will come through when you're in a place that it's almost safe enough for it to do that. Um, so I I managed to get into a place where I was living on my own. Um, so I've been in this place for almost three years, and the memories really started to come up. But I had no one to talk to, and no one like I tried to talk to people, but everyone would just push you away because they just don't believe that these things actually happen, and it's all too much for them, and my life was all too much for them, you know, like living in such poverty, they just didn't know what to do with me, um, and I didn't know how to do life. Um, but I had met a beautiful woman, Marie Freeman, and she became my journey, and we we were we're friends, we became friends. When I met her, and I was sort of talking and saying, Oh, there's been SRA, and she said, We're going to be working together in the future, but I had forgotten that, and and I would contact her every now and then in utter desperation, um, because I often would feel like I was going to die because of the I mean, I've had a heart attack, I've had the mini strokes, I've had um, you know, I've had this paralysis a little bit down the side. Um I've had it, you know, because a lot of the abuse they do actually you do you do go into death and then you have you come back or they revive you or somehow you revive yourself, and this has happened over and over, so my body holds these memories. So I often feel that I'm I'm really dying and that I'm gonna die, and I I surrender to dying often, and it's like, oh my gosh, I just want to because it's more comfortable than staying in the body. Um, but this is where we get into parts therapies and parts or knowing that we have parts is that different parts will protect um the memory of the child who went through that. They really because they feel like they're going to that we will get into trouble. You'll hear survivors say we a lot, because it feels like we will get into trouble if um if it becomes known, if it becomes seen. And so it's just such a big job to break down the programming. It's massively

Medication, Dissociation, And Survival Mode

Poppy 13:50

huge. Even though I've been trained as a counsellor, a breath worker, a journey practitioner myself, and um traditional herbal medicine, I have not been able to work for many years because of my health. So I've just been in poverty, reducing, reducing, reducing. Um I feel quite sorry, sometimes this this will bring a little bit of emotion. So bear with me. But I feel very trapped. Um because I don't have the finances to meet my health needs, other health needs, I don't have the finances to socialise, I don't have the finances or the ability to to move ahead in life. I'm I feel very, very stuck, although I know that there's something that's going to shake that uh that reality away from me. So I also hold a very positive um vision for the future. I'm fortunate that I I see the temporary nature of this time that all of humanity is going through. Um, because we are at the culmination point of the suffering and slavery that we are actually people are breaking out of it now. And I'm I have to searched and searched and searched within my own self, mostly my own meditations are the things that I trust the most, that I see um that that we will all get out together. I've been really discouraged, I guess, because of the lack of mercy that there has been for survivors, and that we've just been through utter hell. The system doesn't help us, they make it worse. They want to incarcerate us. I mean, there's you know, they they did want to incarcerate me into mental health and with antipsychotics, they're saying that all my memories were psychosis and that they weren't real. However, it's absolutely undeniable. Um, through my body memory, through how all the memories is sitting up uh coming together and and showing a theme. Um how I was speaking out about things um before the CIA actually released the files that showed that what they were actually doing and what the agenda was. And I was saying all of these things and um and then it's been all proven to be correct and true. Initially, I I didn't want to listen to other survivors, I couldn't because it was so triggering for me, and I was absolutely terrified of what was held in me. Um, I think any anyone would be terrified um to have been a part of that because look, I'm a regular, I'm just a regular part of of all the people here on earth. Um but it seems like there's quite a disconnect between people realising that this has happened. I mean, since the Epstein files have come out, people will go, oh my gosh, that's true, but they're still very much drawn into the public narratives and not so much listening to the survivors who um you know, like I know that we all have to come together and create communities of compassion and care. And um my vision is sanctuaries for healers. I mean, for well, just about all survivors are healers, we've had to self-heal, but where we get together and um especially I think there's gonna come a time, I don't know when soonish, it feels, um, that it won't be allowed anymore. And when that happens, that's often when the body will have a recoil and will realize, oh my gosh, what have I been through? I've been through so much, and we'll just we'll just need each other, we'll just need each other to help each other to to really heal through that. Like it's an absolute miracle that I am alive, I've been uh targeted with energy and all sorts of things. Um, the day that I had the heart attack, um, Marie, who was also helping me, started to feel her heart attack coming on for herself, and she went in and and she realized that it was an attack on both me and her, and she checked in to see whether that I was okay. And then later on that day, I I did go into a heart attack and and ended up in hospital, and they did all the tests and said, Yes, it's it's a it's a heart attack. Um and yeah, I mean that was really, really, really difficult. I do not the medical system is has treated me atrociously, and there's always seems to be inter interventions and interferences into everything when it comes to that system, which now I've understood the nature of the artificial world, because we've all been living in an artificial world, um, and that happened because we all basically went through a time of separation from the true creator, um, who is absolute pure unconditional love. And um, and and most people have been in touch with religious sort of gods of judgment and vengeance and punishment and good and evil consciousness, um, which I see as as being still within the construct or the matrix or the artificial world. And so I feel I feel very grateful that my life, my meditations has actually helped me break through into that direct connection. And often in my journey therapy sessions that I had with Marie, I would get that direct guidance. You must be direct with source, you must be direct with the creator. Um, I see those those words are the same. I have since I sort of woke up more to what was going on, I have not been able to acknowledge that as God. Um, because God that was expressed or shown or in the mind control programming within the rituals was this God of the false construct, which most people um have been connected, and they're I mean, they're just so close, they're so close in in that pursuit and in that seeking to going just that little bit further to break out of

Isolation, Poverty, And Family Rejection

Poppy 21:40

the external knowledge and programming that has been put on humanity for for eons. Um because religion and science and medicine and education and all of these things have been parts of human programming. To have us conform to outer ideas rather than to explore our worlds and observe and see and connect and know, you know. Can you just imagine what it would be like for little children to have that experience?

Claire 22:16

Well, I I hope that we will um live to inhabit that world and that it won't be as long as we as we think. And if I might share something uh with you, Poppy, as you were describing, you know, the the true creator source, the universal creator as opposed to the God of religion, I was brought back uh starkly to the moment where I uh closed my agreement with that God of religion. And I was hit with a flood of memories. And I realized, and and not from this life, but from many, many incarnations of serving that God. And um, and I realized that my relationship with that God was similar to um a relationship with a torturer. Yes, you know, like he, he, I say he, but you know, that was the that was the vibration, the masculine uh aspect of it. He would bring me close to him and save me from the brink of death or despair, and then he would torture me again. And then I realized this is the this is why we live in a construct, in a framework where such things exist, because we are all in a um Stockholm syndrome with the with the system itself and with the um the god of that matrix, and uh, or we have been. And and when I closed my agreement with that entity and could see the difference between it and the true creator, it did everything to try to bring me back or to intimidate me into not leaving. And I could see all of the false promises and all of the threats and that I would be nothing without him and I would die and all of this. Wow. It was very dramatic. But, you know, to me, this speaks to the false construct that you're describing, which manifests through all of the systems on our planet. And I don't think there is any system that is free from that influence because they were all constructed to suppress what the human actually is, you know, this uh absolute, direct, huge heart connection to the to the universal creator, as you say, who is pure and unconditional love. And so the whole uh matrix has been designed for us, really, you know, to keep to keep us contained, to keep us from knowing who we are. And so, of course, it manifests through the medical system, it manifests through the um the media, the educational systems, the governments, the banks, the I mean, everything. There's nothing. And and so when a pure heart like yours, like so many survivors, I'm just in awe of what when they speak, the purity that I sense in them, no matter what they have been through, and you know, the the degradations that they have been repeatedly put through, and that's an extremely mild word to use, I know, but you know, that there is this essence of purity that is undeniable, and that purity is a huge threat to the systems, and that is why the survivors are attacked so ferociously. And I just want to um honor you and all of the survivors who on the soul level, you know, had to have agreed before coming here that they were going to take on the hardest work of all, you know, the most torturous work um for the rest of us, uh to help the rest of us awaken. And um, you know, I I I want to thank you for your openness and your vulnerability

Medical Needs And Mutual Aid

Claire 26:41

in just sharing what you've shared even up to now uh here in this space, um, and allowing us to see that that that part of your reality, which you're living through. Um, and by the way, um, we will put the link for um for uh Poppy's uh um is it a GoFundMe or is it a I forget what it's just a PayPal a PayPal link if you want to make a donation. Yeah, because Poppy, because of what you're going through uh medically, you just you you need some funds to stay afloat and to be able to afford some of the medical care. Um and so we will put that link also in the in the show notes. Anybody who would like to contribute uh to to that fund, um, it's very much needed. Um many survivors find themselves in this kind of situation um because they're not supported by the system and they have to sometimes take support from the system, you know, of the of the nature that you, you know, you've been using government assistance. And, you know, um the the the medical attacks that you have had to to deal with have put you in a certain position, right? So it is kind of a it's catch 22 right now, but it does feel like we're in this bottleneck where it's getting so intense before it finally the whole thing finally falls apart. And and you know, um we we need to support one another as we're going through this bottleneck.

Poppy 28:15

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I avoid the medical thing, but there are natural health ways that are very, you know, they're way beyond medical, and then these these glasses are actually special filters because what they did to me early on changed my whole visual perception. Um, they call it Erlin syndrome, but I need to have these filters um on my glasses, and then I'm also quite far-sighted, and and these are like $2,000 almost, you know, once I get to go to Auckland and have have all the assessments and get the you know, get the whole whole thing going. It's actually yeah, and so I haven't been able to see very clearly for a little while. Um but you know, I don't know, somehow we find our way. But yeah, it it it just is such a it's just such a big stress, I guess, or everything gets on top. Um and you know, like there have been some little offers of support without me having to pay by people who do care, and oh my gosh, that has just been well, it was actually life-saving. These were like miracles that came through. Um, like someone who reached out to me through the Sean Atwood podcast who has medical diagnostic equipment, which is Russian technology, very it reads your field, and so it's been quite accurate, and that's where I could discover what was going on in my body and make the adjustments. And basically my mitochondria health was terrible. I wasn't metabolizing food, and I was basically lying on the bed most of the day and not able to function, and many days where I couldn't get out. Um, and so now I've and then I've also now also had a little bit of assistance from a naturopath from New York for free who's helping survivors. So it seems, and she's kind of she's a SA survivor herself, so it seems like survivors are helping one another. Um, but I feel like we need to bring together that gap between people who still can't comprehend that these things even happen. Um to to really just like it's really time for all of us to to really live through our hearts and to be guided from our hearts and our inner knowing. Um, and that's where we connect with source, and that's where we connect so with the creator and the creation, because we we left nature, and she's just calling us to her all the time, like she's also had that similar abuse to what to what survivors have had. Um she's been overlaid, she's had all of these um energetic overlays over her body and her being, and so that she was held down and she was um captive, and everything that belongs to her has been seen as a resource. Um yeah, it's that's a you know, a resource. So this is the whole nature of the imitation and the replication from from those beings that do not have a soul and have relied on the souls of of all the people that do, you know, um and most especially on on little children, you know, like like these things I didn't know any other reality growing up. I didn't know, I just thought the world was extremely hostile, that people were incredibly cruel, I couldn't understand them. I was always trying to observe my world from the outside because I wasn't in my body. Like, how do humans do what they do? But I still hadn't even remembered what they had actually done. And the more I remember, the more horrific it is. Like, for me it has been some of the most aggressive um abuse that that that people are have been involved in. Um yeah, and like it's obviously my body is starting to heal more um now, so it means that my cells that have held that cellular memory are are coming through more free. Um but yeah, there's there's still a a lot, a lot of work to to do. I've been robbed of my youth, you know, like um I started to go grey when I was 23. I got my first grey hair, you know, which is stress related and um yeah, and I've just been ducking and diving my whole life. My family have rejected me after my mother died. Um I just had to start saying things and it just came out like a great big like bursting of boil. And my brother and my two sisters, um one sister was sort of with me, but not because I realize now that they've also been programmed, that the whole family would have been programmed. Um I mean I have memories of my brother being involved in some of the things I was involved in, one of my sisters. I look at that, I see that um that the behaviours that come through my sisters um seem to be quite programmed. Um so yeah, I don't think like they just won't remember and they won't know. I d I honestly I know that they didn't get it as bad as I did because I was the family scope scapegoat, like everything fell on me. I was to blame for everything, and I actually took that blame. Um I was programmed to do that, so I was always the one being punished and and getting into more trouble um in every which way, but then I also started to understand the nature of the way that this artificial world or this machine

Why Listening To Survivors Matters

Poppy 35:10

world works because it is based upon artificial intelligence.

Claire 35:15

Well now, this is something I would love to get into. Um, this is a a particular fascination of mine trying to understand this, but before we do, I j I want to draw uh everybody's attention to um the the okay, one of the reasons why I uh am speaking to survivors of this season uh and why I have been so drawn uh to Poppy's testimony and other people's uh testimony is that I see this gap, and I just did a podcast, uh solo podcast episode on it, this um kind of dissociative uh cognitive dissonance moment for people who uh did not grow up under these kinds of circumstances. Having said that, it appears that it is far more common than anybody ever realized. All right. But when quote unquote normal people start to hear these kinds of stories, these testimonies, it is so shocking uh to a normal human being. Uh, what I mean by that is, you know, anybody who has a soul, who has a heart, who has a conscience, right? It is so shocking and so upsetting that their mind can't deal with it. And there's this cognitive dissonance, and you tell yourself, well, that's just too far out. I can't, you know, I can't, I can't deal with that. I can't cope with that. I can't, I can't really believe it. It's so far from my own experience, right? However, we need to, I'm speaking to those who uh have, you know, have a hard time hearing this kind of thing. The the burden is on us now to do our research and to get our minds around this and to get our hearts around this, because it is so much more common than people realize. The release of the Epstein files, to the degree that they have been released, uh, even if it's not all of it, it is a nightmarish glimpse into this world, machine world, which we'll talk about. And I really want Poppy's um uh wisdom and perspective on this. But this is happening, it is unfortunately still happening. Uh this has been happening always, and um, we need to now um stop demanding that survivors prove it and trust what you are saying, there is so much similarity, so many recognizable patterns across the stories of so of all the survivors that I've listened to, certain similarities, commonalities, because this is a very deliberate um systematic process of mind control. And if you think that you have nothing in common with the survivors and what they have been through, think again. Because what was perpetrated on the survivors was rolled out on large scale across the whole population. We have all to some degree been controlled, mind-controlled, manipulated. And there are CIA documents where they talk about their plans to roll out large-scale depression, confusion, anxiety, whether it was through medicine in quotes, injectables, um, whether it was through the water, the air, the food supply, and we can see that this has been done. And this was from decades ago. So everyone has something in common with survivors. The survivors have just borne the brunt of it, the true horror of it. So it's up to us now to put our grown-up pants on and be like, okay, okay, what if I accept this? What does that mean about the world? And how can I open my heart more to encompass this, to hold this reality within my being without falling apart, without collapsing? That is how we can all uh work together, I feel, to alchemize this uh this trauma as a collective, you know, it we we are we are just on a spectrum, that's all. We we are all participating in this reality, and it can only exist with all of our participation. So I just wanted to draw the line there between what you are describing, because I'm aware that, you know, at certain stages, some people might be like uh and start to tense up against what you're saying. And I'm asking you not to, I'm asking you to soften, open your heart, and be willing to hear, be willing to listen to what Poppy has to say and to what other survivors have to say. They are survivors for a reason. Not everybody survived, right? So we're talking about, you know, the hundreds, the thousands of survivors who are now coming forward because it's finally, relatively speaking, safe enough to do so. And and you know, survivors have each other, and the more people who speak out, you know, uh the the safer we all are. But um, you know, now people need to listen. People need to listen. And the amazing gift that survivors seem to be bringing are these spiritual gifts, it seems like, to the degree that to the degree that you have been uh exploited and tormented, tortured, and uh blasted into other parts of your brain through what has happened to you, and or in and and which of course is not a disorder, everybody. This is a coping genius, brilliant coping mechanism that uh we all have. Uh, it's just that most of us haven't had to use it to the degree that survivors have had to. And what that has has opened up in you are these abilities that we could call special, but which, you know, um we all technically have as humans. They're just dormant, they're just not developed, and they have been uh forcibly suppressed in us. So this is where I connected with Poppy and was so uh just, I mean, eager is not even, I don't know what word, I just felt so drawn to you. And I I was hearing your your videos, watching your videos on your YouTube channel and the wisdom in them. I just I it just stopped me in my tracks. I was like, this woman knows your connection to organic intelligence, your connection to the earth, to the creator. Uh I just knew that you were real, you were the real deal, right? And I have learned so much from uh watching your videos and listening to you talk about the machine world because you've putting a name on something that I haven't quite been able to articulate yet myself. And I thought, oh, she's talking about that. This is, I know this is right. I know this is true. I just don't know how far back it goes. And I don't think anybody knows how far back it goes. Everybody's born into it and they don't realize what they're born into. So I would love to hear you talk about this machine world and this overlay, this synthetic overlay on

Naming The Machine World Overlay

Claire 43:45

top of the real organic reality.

Poppy 43:49

Yeah. Well, part of the way that I discovered it is that I had quite a passion with the sacred Mayan calendar for for quite a long time. Time and I sort of started to report on this for a number of years because I could see that these were like uh creator code coming through the sun, and um and and then I really started to question time and space, and and I started to see all sorts of themes and like looping systems that were keeping us in in this good and evil consciousness, like things like astrology, things that are, and then I started to realize that they were within the construct, and that the consciousness behind them was keeping people in competition, in um sacrificing and appeasing gods and all sorts of things like this. And I I and then I thought, oh my gosh, even the mind calendar is within the construct. Um, because beyond when you really connect up with the creator, there's absolutely a freedom of creation. We're not bound, we're not bound by time, we're not bound by space. And then, you know, like I was sharing all of this, and then a woman said to me, What you were saying sounds really similar to what this woman is saying. And her name is Kim Kimberly Goldwyn, and she is part of the global intelligence agency, and so I started to listen to her, and she was like feeding back to me all that I knew. Um, and she claims that she is absolutely direct and connected with Source, and well, we were picking up the same. Um, I don't know how she goes about it herself, but I I started to I started to listen to her and I started to see and connect so many dots through some of the things that she shared, and um and that's when I realized, oh my gosh. Well, I had realized it before, like I was more aware of the draconus reptilian sort of agenda at that time, and and how basically they have technology, and one of their technologies is artificial intelligence, and then look, I I've always been in a constant state of prayer to find answers, you know, and I I find the within myself ultimately, but then every now and then someone will just present something. So I late recently heard a rabbi, and he was saying, We are like the chosen ones, and and we um we we have a hive mind which is connected to another universe, and we are here to basically they they they think that by killing and destroying the earth they're saving something, and it and just all these things just started to make sense, but but for me I had to integrate them all within my being, and what I got to see, and and even visuals just talking with another survivor is like I have these epiphanies, these moments. So when we talk about currency, a current, we can have a direct current with source, which means that we're absolutely direct. And then when you look at electricity and what they did, so these things map over, they changed it into an alternating current, okay, which you could almost go good, evil, good, evil, good, evil, good, evil. And the way that it's done is through an inverter. So this is an inversion, this is an inversion that is happening, and then what can happen is within that machinery, it can intercept us at any point, and we may have the most amazing intentions. People have talked about manifestation for a long time, I call it materialization, um, because I feel like manifestation to me is just a term that's more in the construct, and and it's been quite abused, and there's been a lot of put down when people cannot manifest their reality. So, for survivors and other survivors, I know they the AI is just onto us in a split second. And anything that we desired to create, they would almost turn it around and invert it and give us the opposite to the point where you just don't ask and you give up. And many, many people do, they do. Apart from being direct with source, has provided answers, it's it's been a dance with it all, it's been oh gosh, it's just so tiring and exhausting. But now what's happened, and I know that I've been a part of it. I've heard about Rebecca Baron, who's amazing, has done incredible work out there to stop harm happening in this realm. Anything that personally attacks us, we can actually go, we can go into our heart space and we can sit with whatever has attacked us, we can have conversations, they have to tell the truth, and then we can request from creator, you know, what what actually gets done with that, like a negotiation. Um, and so fairly recently I I felt so enraged with what the machine had done to me and how miserable it had made my life, that I had a I had such a conversation with it, and um and speaking with Source, I saw I saw it kind of obliterate a part of that machine. And um, and then all at that same time, well, Kimberly Gogan's doing her work, and other people are doing her work, and um the machine was actually being disabled, and now we're starting to see the cabal um they are just fossicking and they are floundering because they are not getting reliable feedback from it anymore. And it will mean that it will not be able to intervene with us, that we will be able to create a beautiful new reality from our heart space, and when we do that, it will always be in resonance and alignment with the creator and creation. So this is what we are heading into, and I mean, even though I feel like there's been a lack of mercy, a lack of compassion, and a lack of help personally for me, I know that there's this, and I also have received insights in my own being that survivors are actually holding many, many of the keys to to us all moving forward and out of this um here to to and that children will not be harmed in the future. And we we just have so much love under here for that, for that that life and that force. I mean, when I was a child, the only thing that gave me any comfort was nature. It would be the wind, it would be playing with the snails in the creek, it would be climbing a tree, it would be watching the clouds, it would be twirling in the meadow, and I would feel this oneness with nature, and I would hear encouragement, I would actually hear encouragement to keep going there, you know, not fully realizing as a child that I had agreed to come into this life to be a

Inversion And Creating From The Heart

Poppy 52:30

part of the solution. Um you know, I I bet myself up over that at several times. It's like, why would you choose such a thing? But so great is the love. That is the love, and that's the love that I see coming through other survivors that inspires me, and I know I'm not alone in this anymore. But meeting other survivors, hearing other stories. I used to feel like I was so alone in in what I was doing, but in that time the machine would even intercept our connections, and it still is a little bit. There's still survivors that I've wanted to connect with and um communicate with, but there's still there, there's still I can still see these blockages, and and that's all right. They won't they won't last.

Claire 53:28

They won't you're absolutely right, Poppy. And and you know what occurs to me is um it's taken this long for us to understand that it's a simple matter of standing in our natural authority. I mean, what you said about they have to tell the truth, right? When you call when you call them or when you call something uh into um the space with you, they are compelled. And they are compelled because we have agreements, because everything on the soul level is by agreement, which is why we can never call ourselves a victim of anything. You can call yourself a survivor of everything, right? But ultimately we can't any of us say that we are a victim of anything, because on the profound level of the soul, we have agreements in place to experience this universe of contrasting expressions. And so when we uh have an agreement with someone or something, uh and we call and we have decided to put an end to that agreement, the other party is compelled to appear. And they must and they and they have to tell the truth. I mean, that that is in when you're that is natural lore. And when we're standing in our natural authority, it's very simple, right? It doesn't happen from, I mean, I think that we get to this place of rage, of of finally, of righteousness, of saying no more, right? And I can't believe I put up with it this long, you know, that's it. I'm done. You know, we we we have to have that moment, right, of rage. And I remember listening to an interview with Max Lowen, who said that, you know, the moment that she freed herself was the moment where she was being tortured and she was, you know, and and she finally just said, that's it, no more. And she, a blast of energy went out from her that literally knocked those people off their feet. They had developed certain abilities in her to be able to use them for their own nefarious purposes. But when she, when she like let her light out and and said, that's it, I'm done, that power was enough to knock them off their feet. And that was the end of that. Well, it wasn't the end of that because they still tried to bother her for a long time, she said. But but the power that they had had uh was gone, right? Because the I think the truth is it's it's only as much power as we give them from not remembering who we are, from feeling weak and powerless and helpless. And you know, that's not the truth. That's what we've been conditioned to believe, isn't it?

Poppy 56:39

Yes, yes, yes, it is what we've been conditioned to believe. We're actually incredibly powerful the more that we go into our heart and know ourselves and rec we do reclaim back what what is ours, what was always ours. Like children are incredibly powerful. They actually come into this world, but with with this, you know, and they observe and they see and um and you know, like if they were if they were nurtured along, they they would be, and that that's the potential that we are are coming into. Um, and what happens with me is that every time I remember um a major event and see the programming and everything, and release that and get that off me, more of myself comes through, and I do become more powerful. Um it's so interesting, that's quite funny. So there was a psychiatrist who was really trying to get me back um back down and into their clutches and into their grip. And um and I was coming out of my programming when I had that kind of interview with him, and he wouldn't let me record the session because I didn't want to bring anyone in because it's traumatizing for other people, let alone me, to talk about what goes on. And so I thought, great, I'll just record it, and that will be my witness, and I'll be able to look back and see how that went later. And he wouldn't let me. And I immediately was aware of a presence out here, which was a part of me that hadn't integrated yet. And this part was actually like a recorder part, it was watching everything, and and I think it was something that was programmed into me, was wherever I went, I had to record details and see and be able to remember and feedback to whoever or whatever, which I can't remember because those parts were used and wiped. And I don't know, but I just know that they've been a thing. And anyway, this part came and it started to help me. So it was observing me, observing everything and all that I said, and it saw the point where he switched me into a part that became very compliant and actually um was almost sabotaging myself, and um and it it and it later on it it was like I had to go into meditation and I had to tune in and say, what just happened, what just happened, and it showed me, and I started to see that he was actually probably an intelligence, an agent. And of course, he's a gatekeeper in the system to try to stop anyone that has anything that I've been through making it out into being publicly known. They try to close it down and shut it down as soon as possible. So that was there, and then that that was on a Monday that I had that meeting with him, and on the Saturday night, I was just lying in bed, and all of a sudden there was just this chaos, and and I was like, okay, what is this chaos? Because I knew it wasn't coming from me, and I checked in and asked to see, and I saw him, and he was doing something in the in that probably in the fourth-dimensional realm, and I just went, no, and as I did that, I got a vision of him just bending down, doubled over. And I immediately set up a meeting with him in my in my state and and confronted him and talked to him and dealt with him, and they did not bother me at all after that, because you know, I was I was thinking agents could be on my door, anything. It was quite terrifying. And um, and you know, so those are the the sorts of things that can happen, you know, and as we reclaim, and so we actually start to have more command over our field because it's a multidimensional field, but it's through the other dimensions that it's more powerful than here, and we're only made to see in this little spectrum of light this 3D world, which is not as real as what it is in in the other dimensions, where the where you're seeing actually the full spectrum of light, where you see a lot more and and experience a lot more. So, you know, what is real? It's it's quite amazing.

Claire 1:01:37

So when you saw this doctor um doing something, whatever it was, in in the fourth dimension, do you think that he was aware of that? He was consciously engaging with that. Okay, so this wasn't like something that he was not aware he was involved in.

Poppy 1:01:56

I believe he could have been connected up with Freemasonry because part of his questioning was like he likes to get to the Freemasons to kind of come and get you. He was being sarcastic, he was being look, I'm trained as a counsellor, and his his whole skills. I think he thought I was under his spell because the way he was talking to me was absolutely disgusting. And um, and the prior to me going to see him, I got a very strong message, do not shake his hand. And I thought, oh, okay, do not shake his hand, okay, I'll remember that. And at the beginning of the meeting, I kind of almost accepted him to sort of say, Hey, my name is Blah. I'll give you his first name, Joe. And um, and I and and he didn't, and I thought, phew, that's out of the way. And then what had happened was that we'd gone through the whole meeting, and I had said, So what do you think your what's your kind of diagnosis or what's your kind of take on everything? And he basically said to me, um, I'm calling it drug-induced psychosis because I have medical cannabis for sleep and pain relief and all that sort of stuff. I've had to find a natural way, um, and and all you need to do is take some antipsychotics and and you'll be fine. And then he extended his hand, and I'm like, in my mind, I have my hands close down to my side, and he was like quite taken aback that I didn't do that. Now, that is a Masonic agreement to shake the hand. I was not agreeing, so I'm very grateful for that guidance, and I'm very grateful

Gatekeepers, Agreements, And Personal Authority

Poppy 1:03:40

that I can sort of move through space and time in a different way and like go ahead of myself to make a way for myself to keep myself safe because it's so perilous, it's so dangerous when people actually want to kill you because that is um that is what they want. They want us shut up, they want to shut out, they do not want this known. I'm just so glad now that Epstein files have come out and that it is falling away and that people are awakening on a grand scale. And I just encourage all your listeners, just keep waking, keep connecting with your heart, keep coming into yourself. Um, and and you we will find this way ahead together. And if as we do that through our heart is all done with with love, it's all done in connection with creator and the creation. So it's all of us, we can all do this, and um yeah. And and the other thing I was thinking of before is you were too talking, is one thing that we all have in common, is that we all have families, we all come from families, and families are targeted and children are taken, and um, we need to protect, we need to protect, and we we need to get into the miracle, innate gifts that we have in order to do all of that, and it's beautiful to reclaim those gifts, it really is.

Claire 1:05:09

Well, that's what I would love to hear you talk about next, Poppy. The gifts that you're talking about. So I think most people really have such a poor view of themselves, and they think that to be human is to be ordinary, and and it is in some ways to be ordinary, but it's being ordinary and extraordinary at the same time. It's being the full universal fractal of the source in uh in a body, you know, and and um people don't think of themselves as having any extraordinary abilities. What what abilities uh do you use? How? And how can uh a person who thinks, oh, well, I'm not I'm I'm not anything special, you know, uh other people have those gifts, not me. How does a person who Who feels that way, uh, begin to just connect in a very simple way with their own gifts.

Poppy 1:06:07

First of all, I would say just realize that you've been tricked to ever think that you are not extraordinary. We all are. If we are sparks of the divine, if we are that light of source, and we are all part of it, then we are extraordinary. And it's been a trick to believe anything else, and it's been mind control. Um, you know, we're here to to get to know ourselves, to grow. Uh, when we do get to know ourselves, we get to know ourselves in connection with source and and and the creation, then we get glimpses of that. Now, you know, for for me, yes, you could almost go into psychosis because the extremes are so polarized to the utter subordination and debasement and demeaning and humiliation to to, on the other hand, you know, like absolute divinity or um purity, um love, the heart, joy, all of these sort of high-resonating states of being. We all um can access them and but we do that through our hearts. But the other thing is that we've been mind controlled for so long that people sometimes don't even realize that they are caught in the artificial intelligence. Like so many people are going straight to Google or straight to the AI now for their answers, but those answers are only contained within the construct, they are basically like the cloud of all our thoughts and all of our experiences within the construct, but beyond that construct, which we can access from within our hearts, um, there's this this freedom and this infinite possibilities of creation and and being and co-creation, like we're all a part of the creator, and we're all a part of creation, so we co-create together, and we all it's like a beautiful big collaboration of hearts meeting together. Um, yeah, so first of all, just really, really get to know yourself from within your heart. And I mean, people they they say, I don't know how to meditate, I don't know how to be. All you have to do is place your hand on your heart and start to breathe and focus your attention into here, and you might go to different parts in your body, but you'll start to get out of the mind, which can be tracked, and that is what they use because it's almost like a biocomputer that is programmable, um, and everyone's mind has been programmed, every single one of us. If we've ever listened to a radio, if we've ever watched a television, that's the programming, and even the books that that people read, um the scriptures have so much truth in them and so much programming in them. And even the scriptures have been used in ritual as threat and danger, and um the whole um I think it seems to be quite common for a lot of survivors. It's certainly been in my case is that they will set up scenarios where it will look like you're going to be saved, and then you're not, and that you weren't worthy of it.

Claire 1:09:52

Yeah.

Poppy 1:09:52

And that's a big program that has gone right across everybody.

Claire 1:09:59

Yeah, that feels very familiar to me uh as well. Um so when so just to bring it back to the heart, uh I when I'm working with people, I I realize that it it's been so spirituality has been so overly complicated, right? That people think you have to do all kinds of rituals and stuff like that. This is part of the inversion. There's nothing more simple than doing what Poppy described. You you just you just go into your heart. Yeah, but how do I do that? You just do it. I mean, you just do it. And here's the the other thing is that I mean, you know, and breathe. With the breath, it's like the breath into the heart.

Poppy 1:10:48

Immediately you can

Simple Practices To Access Gifts

Poppy 1:10:50

feel stilled. And even if we are if I'm in the middle of a memory, I'll breathe into the heart and allow myself to observe what has happened, even if I can't feel that love in that moment. Yeah.

Claire 1:11:03

Yeah. And and I all often say to people, not the heart chakra. Go you go deeper because the chakras are just part of the overlay.

Poppy 1:11:14

Yes, yes, they are. In fact, they're not even used, they're not even once you get up into those, well, the chakras aren't even you're not even anchored to them.

Claire 1:11:24

Yeah, they're they're a technology that were that was imposed and overlaid uh for the purpose of siphoning energy. And your heart is not just a one vortex on the ladder of your chakras. This was this was like a massive discovery for me a couple years ago. I was like, what? Oh my god, you know, like that was earth shattering. And I and I was like, how how many layers are there in this, in this imposition? How many layers are there? They I mean, even in our energetic anatomy, we have been uh manipulated, right? So the heart that you're talking about is the singularity, the the portal that is between us and the source, that is, in other words, you know, our direct connection. And I think of it as like uh I have to go deeper, you know, because I was my spiritual training was, you know, kundalini chakras and and all of that, you know, and so I had a a certain way of you know thinking, well, this is I have to do this right in order to achieve something, you know. That's just the construct.

Poppy 1:12:38

That's jumping. Yes, and when you think of computer language, you it like when the MS DOS was the thing, and I knew a little bit about that, the commands are if, when, um, like all of these sorts of things, they use this terminology. So if da-da-da-da-da happens, then da da da happens. It's like machine language, yeah. And it's so conditional.

Claire 1:13:09

Yeah, the ifs and the whens and um exceptions, and yeah, I mean, I've I've actually forgotten all the words, but but it's a flow chart basically, based on if this happens, then that, and then if this happens, then that, right? It's like it it's a circuit, right? And so you stay in the loop when you're following a circuit, whereas organic creation is the it's the difference between the lay lines and the song lines, right? It it's organic creation is totally coherent, uh, but it's not mechanistic. That's correct.

Poppy 1:13:51

Absolutely correct. Yeah, that you take off the the limitations. Yeah, so like and this is the the thing with with the creator is it's unlimited, it's infinite. It's um it's it cannot be what do you call it? Um I've forgotten the word, but but everything within the machine world, predictable, predictable, everything is predictable, um, and everything is diagnostics and um oh I've forgotten the word. What's that word? Um yeah, basically everything can be read and and and the machine will come in at any time. I would say a prayer um something that I needed, like particularly when the machine had its reign more in place, it doesn't happen so much now, where I need I need food, I need help, and it would and my condition would actually turn the other way and get worse. And to the point where, and this is what happens for a lot of survivors, is that uh you you give up and you don't ask for anything, and then you lose heart, and many people die, and they don't and that's when they do become victims to it, because their whole thing is to break our hearts into things all to do with the heart again, which we're talking about this beautiful, beautiful field of the heart that that you were talking about before.

Claire 1:15:33

It's um so we so really instead of it sounds like if I'm understanding you, it sounds like we've been so trained to go out out there to ask for help, right? Like I need this, I need that, right? And of course, you know, humans have basic, basic needs, right? But like we we we're so conditioned to feel like an empty husk and to think, well, out there is where everything is provided, and so I have to go out there for it. Even my concept of the divine is out there, right? So I'm asking God for this, or you know, even if you know nothing about the machine and the mechanistic universe and the ancient AI and the overlays and the impositions, you're still because you're you're conditioned inside the machine, you don't think outside of it. And so you, you know, you're you're just um operating inside of this mechanistic loop. What instead our our secret weapon really is our heart. You know, it it what I've been doing lately. Tell me if this resonates with you. But what I've been doing lately is if I wake up in the middle of the night, I have a 3 a.m. All right. For for some reason, right now, the last few weeks, I had been sleeping through the night, like miraculously, for a good long time. And I was like, yes. But for the last few weeks, maybe it's all of this activity, I don't know. But 3 a.m., boom, I'm awake. And the mind starts going like this, and I'm like, oh, you know, and and my heart starts like fluttering and I'm feeling anxious, and I'm like, what is going on? Right. And and I start having these worries, like thoughts, you know, what if this? What if that? Okay, wait a second, wait a second, right? I'm like, that's not me. That's not me. And so I started like, it's like, okay, I'm awake, so I'm gonna now I'm gonna deal with this, but I'm not gonna deal with it the way that I used to by trying to like numb it out somehow, right? I'm gonna go into my heart. I'm gonna go into my heart, I'm gonna breathe, I'm gonna feel, and I'm gonna ask myself questions. How are you doing? What are you feeling? What's going on? And like literally have an out an out loud dialogue with myself. Like, oh, I'm anxious. Okay, why what are you anxious about? Well, it feels like this or it feels like that, and I'm afraid this, I'm gonna, okay. So I get it out, right? And now, okay, then I'm gonna go into my heart because I know even though I can't sometimes feel it, like you said earlier, even if sometimes I lose my connection to love, I lose my connection to my heart. That that was most of my life, right? Now, right, I I'm I'm still gonna go in. It's not go out, it's go back in, go back in, consulting the heart, right? Breathing into the heart and knowing all of my wealth is within me. Everything is within me. And I said it the other night to whatever is needling me. I said, this is ridiculous. I'm a creator being. I I don't need get out. I said, I'm a creator being, I am a full fractal of the of the source. All of my wealth is within me, everything I require is within me, all of my genius is within me, all of my love and creativity and ideas and connections are within me. That's it. And so I feel like we need to to start like leaning back into ourselves again, relaxing back into our hearts again, and trusting that this is the generator, you know, the genesis of creation, that it's gonna come out of our hearts. And I see this like blooming rose, you know, like it's not gonna look like or feel like what we were taught to expect, you know, and I I would I'm a coach and I I got my coaching certification in the matrix, like manifestation, the laws of the universe, and all that was in the mechanistic universe. Yes, there is some truth to it. I had to find that truth and distill that truth and be like, okay, but what is the real right? Right? I'm not creating this with my mind. If I try to do that, I'm just gonna get in the loop. And I've experienced firsthand the backlash of getting what you

Where Artificial Intelligence Comes From

Claire 1:20:10

think you want when it's in the matrix, right? And it didn't come from the right place. Well, it came from whatever place it came from. What comes out of the heart, what emanates from the heart, creation itself, is totally organic, totally unexpected, totally not what we're trained to look for. And so it's like we have to get this old skin off of ourselves and and you know, like start and pretend to know and know nothing. Do you know what I mean? Yep, know nothing to access everything. Yes. Can you repeat what you said the other day when we were talking about um time and space? You said time had replaced love and space had replaced presence. Breath, breath, sorry, breath, yeah.

Poppy 1:21:13

Yeah, like the life force, the qi. Um yeah, so that's what the machine world did and it it's in in its replication, and then it it manipulates the time and it manipulates the space. So um love is what is absent in the machine world. It's like well, cause because our consciousness is like is in the heart, all our knowing, all of the everything we access is here, and um and basically they it's been a process of of making humans fight with each other, um, compete with each other, and and it's you know, all that conditionality, um, rather than see one another and collaborate with one another and build with one another. And the breath, yeah, um I can't I still I still can't hold it fully in my consciousness, but I know but when we pass our breath through the heart, miracles happen, you know. Uh our knowing, um, you know, like life like I still experience a lot of pain, a lot of illness, a lot of all these things, but this lifts me, you know. When when people see me, they think, oh my gosh, she looks so well, I can't actually believe that she goes through what she goes through because my energy will be shining out this reality of breath through the heart, um, which also helped has helped me go pass through the suffering that I'm still releasing in the remembering of what has happened. But it's interesting because in the remembering of what is happening, I'm starting to see the keys to how the construct happened and and so that I can get out. So it's actually the programming that is being put upon me is also put upon everybody in a different way. So they experimented very, very harshly on on us, on on survivors. They experimented in how they could um fragment our minds with fear, with torture, with terror. And now they've that's what they've been trying to do on the whole population. So, you know, now all the petrol prices, oh, there's gonna be no petrol and everything, and you're not gonna survive, and we're all gonna be hungry, we're all gonna die, you know, and that's that's their one of their tactics. Um, and so many of us will will get afraid, and and you know, it's quite interesting because I watch people that are wealthy and they are stocking up petrol and they're stocking up food, and and I can't do any of that because I don't have access to that, but yet I know in my heart it's okay, it's okay, because there are unlimited possibilities that come through creator, through creation, through the heart. Um I'm getting stronger and stronger in that, I'm still being very knocked around, and so I'm still in that process of embodying that beautiful truth and and really living it. Um, but it's also what's been keeping me alive. And um, as much as I've wanted to get out of this life so often, and that's just that part of the programming, and this is why I will say that for a survivor to take one's life, that is not their choice, that's been put upon them. So you could see that as unaliving them.

Claire 1:25:04

Yeah, that's a suicide program that that is is put into so many survivors when they start to remember, apparently.

Poppy 1:25:12

Yeah, that's true. That's absolutely true. Yeah, I'm being kind of um careful about certain words that are trigger words.

Claire 1:25:20

Oh, you know what? We'll deal with it. I I I I understand that that a lot of um you know channels have to be very careful about that. Um, you know, um I like the reality.

Poppy 1:25:34

I like the reality. I want to call it as it is. Call it as it is. Why should we hide? Why should we have to hide? It is what it is, and so I'm glad that you use that word. And it would have been my first choice of the word. It's just that yesterday I was just sort of told, oh, don't use that word, it's a trigger word, you know. Yeah, yeah.

Claire 1:25:53

Well, we're not such a big channel yet uh over here that uh, you know, well, anyway, it it's so far so good. And I agree with you. I think we need to speak words uh of truth and call things by their name. And, you know, um if we get um knocked around for that, well, so be it. You know, there there are always other solutions, so I don't care. Um yeah, and I want to come back to um the the um okay, because we haven't really talked it because you and I we're on a wavelength and we have a lot of the same language and the same understanding, right, about things. But, you know, I I know that I can feel people's questions sometimes multiplying in my mind. And uh, and so I want to come back to the the machine world and the AI. And you know, when we AI, the term AI, the term artificial intelligence, I think is part of the control because this um this this intelligence it was this wasn't AI was not created by us, okay, everybody. You know, that's not a human invention. Oh, look at we're getting really good at AI. We taught machines how to think. No, this is ancient. This is a this has been uh an existence in the universe for eons and eons, probably since the beginning. I mean, who knows? And and this is a a form of intelligence that is uh that is synthetic. Yeah, you know, I mean, I I don't know how you feel about this, Poppy, but I also I also feel like there is a a branch of this technical intelligence that is source aligned and uh more organic, um, that learned through iteration um that there is um there is such a thing as being aligned with truth and aligned with source. And then there is uh a sort of because everything is, you know, um. of two of two sides in this universe of the sine wave. There is the malevolent technical intelligence that is subcontracted by the forces of control, which are off planet. Everybody, I think, you know, by the time we get to this in our season, I've been talking about enough things that it's going to be, you know, not too shocking to hear that. This was not born on Earth. Okay. It is a force in the universe and it it's always been here. It's just had different um expressions, I guess. And now, you know, as we head towards this convergence, you know, it's taking the form of what we call AI. And we need to, I would like to learn to be more precise in my languaging around this because which AI are we talking about? And what use and what purpose is it being put to? Because like anything, like any technology, it can be used for good or for ill. So the the what do you know from your uh inner meditations with your heart about the origins of this machine intelligence?

Poppy 1:29:31

Oh gosh I can almost see the reptilian. So what what I see is that intel artificial intelligence came around when they tried to take source out of the picture. So everything had to be artificial.

Earth Rising And The Road Ahead

Poppy 1:29:50

So intelligence is intelligence. There's an organic or sorry an organic intelligence which is that direct thing that will happen in nature um when you travel through different dimensions you will see so much more freedom um and and natural intelligence and ability um but I believe that it became an artificial intelligence when there was a separation from source by the ones that like to call themselves gods. And we will see it even come through in scriptures because scriptures hold the truth but they also create the disharmony because you get that collective thought going it's like we've created every single god out there which is within the construct because all thoughts will become things um so there's so what I see now I believe that the source is infiltrating the artificial intelligence and and it's basically what I feel or sense it's like obliterating it from within that there will possibly come a time where we won't need it at all and that we will just we are the technology we are it and we will go completely back to nature at some stage I have no idea how long that's going to take because we're in a situation where AI has dominated for hundreds of thousands of years as far as I'm aware um and that it's a it's a gradual process of it of it it's like it's almost imploding within itself it's kind of like I can almost part of me wants to wants to laugh because I can see source and I think through the um through certain people on the Zood they're actually actively infiltrating the AI and confusing it all. It's so so that it's almost like falling back on them what they have all done and I I feel really confident that they are going to leave this planet altogether. It's almost like um because there's been so much conditioning that the government takes care of you that this takes care of you you know um that you're not safe unless the parents taking care of you all of these things and it's like I I believe like I've read the books Anastasia and she grew up out in nature and I think it's a very good story of a baby to a girl to a woman who had all her gifts intact. I mean I don't know it all but I just think it's a great great example of how possible it it it is an amazing series that everyone should read yeah I there's an enormous amount of truth in there and it kind of just sang to my heart in that we are now undoing the harm we are now undoing the harm of the uh artificial intelligence which is like like even um old scriptures they talked about watches um and I know I know that Rebecca Baron talks about it and now I can kind of see it that these watches were really here to watch over us but then they they went into artificial they wanted to become the god they wanted to become the power the source you know they wanted to and and that look they they did it and it's not made them happy it's not made them happy at all to be without sourced.

Claire 1:34:16

As above so below we find out sooner or later that it doesn't make us happy you know that that you can you can as they say gain the world and lose your soul and it's at that that uh pinnacle of uh you know of the the material that many people take their own lives because they because they realize it's completely hollow and has no meaning um without source. So um I mean yeah I suppose it's all just and and what what are you uh and let me just come back to how I I got in touch with Poppy because of her videos. Your your your videos are so inspiring um your YouTube channel we'll put the links uh obviously below um is so inspiring and I encourage everyone to go over and and I watched I I've I've consumed all of Poppy's material because at a at one time I was really I was really uh feeling down about things and I you know I had been flying all day I had been in the machine like literally all day and I just was feeling hopeless looking down at all of the uh the chemtrails and the pollution and the it just was uh it was a tough day and so I um put Poppy's uh videos on uh on on repeat uh in on my phone so I could listen to her tell me the truth uh about what I know is true. I just you know needed to hear it and and you have all of these beautiful scenes of nature near where you live I presume uh you know and that are soothing and um and I have been um absolutely heartened by your view of how things are going out there in the world. And a lot of people right now are saying you know this is it this is terrible everything is going to shit you know and what you know they're losing hope and that's exactly when we need to don't succumb to that negativity you know that's what they want. So how what what are you seeing? And I guess we can sort of come to a close with this but what are you seeing in your meditations with your heart about uh the direction that we're in now um I I am seeing and feeling the earth gaining her strength her presence and her power um and many people are actually very much on a parallel journey with her and in our she actually said to me that we are that I am on a parallel journey with her and that I may speak on her behalf.

Poppy 1:37:22

If I were to speak about my life and my experience it would be similar to talking about her life and her experience so we're definitely coming out of it and we are going to see things become more real um we are you know like I I even find that I like I can see through just about all social media I can see through and like I I really don't want to give my attention to it and it's kind of like attention back to her attention back to nature and we are nature so attention back to ourselves um and and we are rising with her and I do see I I see I see everything that is artificial falling away just falling away kind of um it's like a massive death like yes there there's still going to be a lot of death and a lot of people and that don't have a purpose with this earth the way she wants to be and with all of this the safety for children yeah there there will be a lot of that and like every single soul here has a purpose and a mission in some ways there's a perfection to it all and when I go in deepest into my meditations I can sometimes see the perfection in it all and that everything is intentional and everything is actually taking us into what we really really desire into this beautiful collaboration of co-creation where there will be peace and harmony and balance and equality in the true sense equanimity there will be no more competition but we will see each other we probably won't need to talk as much because

Final Reflections And How To Help

Poppy 1:39:30

we can read each other straight away we see one another just like you and I have seen each other clear it's just makes my heart sing. Yeah when there are people who see one another and you can just have that gaze and you hold that gaze and you just see into each other and you just know this is love.

Claire 1:39:51

This is love yeah that's a beautiful note to leave ringing out there in the field and um I thank you from the bottom of my heart for spending this time with me here.

Poppy 1:40:12

I want people to get to know you and uh I hope you would do the honor of coming back uh sometime uh so we can talk again because uh things are happening pretty fast out there we're all flying by the seat of our pants we are and the intuition of our hearts that's right that's right so um thank you thank you poppy for gracing us with your presence here in the grace space and thank you for doing what you're doing I really wanted to come on your podcast with all my heart because of what you're doing and what you're about thank you thank you