The Great Reclamation: Starseeds, Bloodline Healing & the Cosmic War for Earth

What does it actually mean to awaken inside a traumatized bloodline — and come out the other side as a Guardian ambassador?

In this episode, I sit down with Indigo Angel, a lifelong psychic, grid worker, author, and Guardian Alliance emissary whose awakening wasn't just spiritual — it was physical. From dental assistant to galactic ambassador, her journey took her through addiction, near-death experiences, years of contact with Lyran councils, and a profound reckoning with what she calls "forced breeder programs" embedded in her ancestral line.

We go deep on:

→ What the Guardian Alliance actually is — and who's in it
→ The Stargate Wars: why the real battle on Earth is about control of sacred architecture
→ Hyperborean AI, Atlantean records, and the genetic libraries being kept from humanity
→ Why your DNA holds the key to planetary memory — and how shadow work literally heals it
→ The plasma crystalline matrix, ley lines, and why the sun is being blocked
→ Full alien disclosure: what 2026–2027 may bring
→ How to function as a multidimensional being while still doing the laundry
→ Why "being on mission" isn't optional — and what happens when you're not

Whether you're just beginning to wake up or deep in your own pathwork, this conversation will land with the resonance of truth. Take what resonates. Let it move through you.

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Transcript

Trauma, Addiction, And A 2012 Awakening

Claire 0:02

So uh Indy, can I ask how did you get to where you are now? Like who who were you before Indigo Angel?

Indie 0:13

That's okay. We're going way back. Who was I before Indigo Angel? Um career-wise, I was a dental assistant. Um, I entered into the dental field when I was about 20, and I did that for about 10 years. Um, I do feel like working in the dental field definitely sharpened my attention to detail, and it also sharpened my um love for cartography and charting and things like this, a skill that I bring with me into who I am today. Um, but you know, I was a young mom, and I think that I struggled, just like everybody else, with dealing with trauma, dealing with maternal and paternal degradation in my bloodline and my lineage. Um, I would say that I experienced the level of trauma that like the native ex natives experienced, honestly, um, with what came through my family line and my bloodline, with really wounding the feminine body, right? Like it, there's so much black Madonna, there's so much um that really came against us through force breeder programs and things like this. That um, you know, everything I I feel like I was just born through like a like like I was born into a nest that was like broken and like missing parts of it and like there was holes in the nest. Like I'm just like coming into the world, like, where is my mother? Like, okay, there's nobody here to take care of me. Just try to fly, you know, um, and try to feed yourself. So I it was just crazy, right? And this catapulted me into a life of definitely suffering, addiction, um, just everything you can think of that I had to overcome. And I had a huge awakening just like everybody else. I would say my awakening happened in 2012, 2013. And what I realized what was happening to me is I was never listening to myself. I was never listening to my body, and I was never listening to how sensitive I was because I am truly an HSP, a highly sensitive person. Um, I was born with psychic abilities. I could see light beings, I could see angels, I could see demonic forces as a child. Um, I worked with who I know to be the guardians now as a child, but I didn't know that. I just called them like the beings in the sky that would like interact with me. And I carried all that with me, but then as I got older, it was just all this darkness of not being able to nurture my soul, you know, and then falling into these really bad life paths. Like, yes, I did the dental assisting, but I also walked some pretty crazy pathwork that I've never spoken about before as well, and ended up in some pretty crazy risky situations and things like this. So I had a lot to overcome. And my awakening was just so profound because it was very physical for me. Um, and maybe this is why awakening isn't as powerful for some people. I've noticed because some people don't have physical body ascension. For me, it was about survival because my body was going through so much transformation through my awakening that my body dictated who I was supposed to become. A lot of sickness, a lot of having to overcome just death and toxicity inside myself and having multiple near-death experiences as well. You know, all the way to what we discussed coming into this, where I was talking about my gallbladder and like you watching my story about that. Um, so health has always been something that has been difficult for me trying to overcome. And that just catapults the ascension process because it's like you don't have any choice but to be super real with yourself and to um identify the shifts and changes that you have to make within your own consciousness to get to the next level and phases of who you're supposed to become. So my angelic identity started rapidly revealing itself to me. I remember in the beginning of my ascension, I would hold crystals and it was so powerful to me because my body was so holographic. My blood was essentially illuminated, like it was glowing. I had, I mean, if you could take one of those lights to me where you could see, I I could have promised you that my my blood was glowing. Like there was things happening to me that was making it so my spirit, you know, could easily come in and out of my body, all kinds of things. Um and so I just I remember holding a crystal one day and I left my body for what felt like hours. And this was at the beginning of my ascension. That's when I realized that the ascension process was physical. Was the experience was so real that I I I mean, it felt like I was in eternal time for hundreds of years, and then come back to my body. Like I mean, I was like in my car for like six hours holding a crystal and basically like winning and out of consciousness. Those type of things were happening to me all the time where I was like losing time. So what eventually happened was in about I would say 2016, um, at this point, to what family that I had that still actually talked to me, because I was very rapidly becoming like the super ultra crazy person that like couldn't even, people didn't even want to like approach me because like the things I would say would be so bizarre, right? Like sension taking you into this bizarre place. Um, what happened was is um I started to be contacted by races from the Guardian Nations. Um, 2016 to 2019, I had lots of contact with the Lyran councils. They would actually come to me as light elementals, and they came in with me to help me rehabilitate my 12th-dimensional light body and to like teach me how to work within consciousness expansion and really upgrade me through light and sound, upgrade me through language. Um, and so this what was when I worked with the Lyrons is when I really went through a huge healing portion of my journey. And they are the ones that I feel like ultimately kind of laid the groundwork for where I was going and who I was meant to become today, and also my guardian ambassadorship that I was ultimately going to take. But you know, a lot of things happen in between. But that that was kind of the beginning of all of it, I would say.

Realizing You Perceive More Than Others

Claire 7:26

I I love wow, we are done. We just dove right in. Where did we just go? And I love it, I love it. So, um, okay, let me what what you're describing, I mean, now that you're you're talking about it, it was in, you know, in the past as just you know a natural process that you went through, probably sounds so far out to many people. Um, but you know, when you talk about the Lyrons and the Guardians and being an ambassador for that, you speak about it quite casually, you know, because I think because you've integrated so much of it. But was there ever a point? I mean, did when did you first realize that you were perceiving reality differently from most of the people around you? I mean, a lot of people who are super psychic and born with those gifts just assume everybody else is the same way until they realize at some point, like, oh, wait a second, they don't see what I'm seeing, I'm different, you know. Like, how how did that evolve for you in uh, you know, your normal? When did you realize, wait a second, there's I'm not like everybody else?

Indie 8:35

Definitely as a child, because there were things that were happening to me that I realized other people weren't experiencing, such as the fact that I could, I could just like sit at a park and I could look at each person and I could know like what they were dealing with, what ailments they would have, where their body was hurting, what sicknesses they had. Because I would, as a child, I would just develop them as sicknesses. So it's like I was sick all the time. I was always going to the doctor, being taken for things. This I think um ties into abduction experiences that I happened, happened to me. Um that I didn't know any of these things were going on, right? Because I didn't get like some of these memories till I got older. But yeah, as a child, you just know. And I also understood that many adults were not able to communicate at the level that I was able to communicate. Um, I would know by the way, I would ask them questions, they couldn't respond, they couldn't actually find answers that I knew had deeper depth to them, that they were giving me very like shallow answers to things that they they weren't able to explore depth within themselves. I just knew immediately. But you know, what good does that gift do for you when you're existing in a world where nobody can reciprocate what you're perceiving, right? So this is, I think this is what brings on the dark night of the soul. This is what starts to shut you down because you start to say, eff it, these gifts don't matter. These abilities don't matter because like I can't use them. I don't know how to use them, I don't know how to find resonance or alignment. And because you don't have the reflection, it it shuts that down. So it's definitely a story of overcoming, right? And like redemption and like again, listening to yourself, finding yourself, finding those gifts. How do I work with these gifts? Like, how do I apply this? How do I stand in my own authenticity with these abilities without ever having any sort of validation or acknowledgement from anyone else? That that that was a culmination point for me in my awakening that was so significant. Um, and then not only, you know, having that, but then you have to realize that I have to actually be this person. I have to have to be this person against your own family that's gonna sit there and be like, no, you're not that person. You know what I mean? You um when you come from these really degraded bloodlines, right, that have been through a lot of trauma, like they're carrying all the like perverse predator programs, they're they're carrying all of the colonizer wounds and like the real separation of tribal wounds, the family lines. Like when you're carrying all that, you're you're existing within a unit of people that it is to destroy you. So then there's this other level of like having to build yourself is like, no, I'm this person, I'm standing in my abilities, I'm standing in my gifts against the only people that could ever give you that reflection, but they can't give you that reflection. So you just you build, you shed these layers, you shed these identities, you shed these attachments to programs and concepts and realities and social programming, and you just shed layers, shed layers, shed layers, shed layers until you don't get to a place of existence where you just don't even have any identity at all.

Claire 11:58

Yeah.

Indie 11:58

That's your that's your true ultimate state of existing. It's it's ultimate oneness. Um, but then you know, we build the identities again to help navigate through this realm in which we're trying to teach and serve to everyone who now works with us, watches us, incorporates this within themselves because we are finding unity within our knowledge, within our starseed identities, within our um gamma indigo types and our indigo grail lines and um the the evolution of what we're becoming. Um and what we're serving and our purpose. This all has transformed so infinitely within myself. But one thing I do know is that I've come back to a framework of understanding within it all that is allowing me to continue my work at a new level of restoration and resurrection within myself. So just like when you asked me when you first came in, like, what is your name? Should I call you Amanda or should I call you Indy? It's like when you say Amanda, that feels like like planetary incarnations, like long ago. You know what I mean? Like old earth systems, like old parallel life, like um soul oppression, like someone who's really stuck somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, like I need to do like some resurrection to like that energy or just open up that strain line. But ultimately, I don't even carry that that into the new cycles of of what I'm becoming, if that makes sense.

Claire 13:35

It does make sense. And and I love uh how beautifully you're describing the the journey that all souls have to take, really. I mean, it sounds like you know, yours has been very compressed and very advanced because you came in like you know, with all of this power into, as you say, a a bloodline, a degraded bloodline, you know, so you have all of that to push against, but also, you know, to illuminate, right? And it's gonna force you to to define yourself as different from your bloodline, but then ultimately let go of that definition because you merge with the oneness, but then you realize, well, but and it's this, isn't it? Because because then, you know, you you because we live in a body and we live in this world and we interact, um, you know, we we have an identity, and it's there's nothing wrong with that, you know, but it's I guess it's the our degree of attachment to a limitation, um, you know, that we're that we're playing with, right? So what I'm hearing and uh what I'm what I'm really loving is um you know your your courage in standing, you know, stepping up into accepting the mission, right? Because you could have said no. I mean, like it must be challenging. I don't know. Will you tell me? Is it challenging to on the one hand, you know, you leave your body, you you you are in you're you're very um you're living very much on the multidimensional level, you're very aware of all of these other uh dimensional levels of your being. You're interacting with beings that most people can't see. Um, you're interacting with councils, you're accepting responsibility on an architectural, cosmic architectural level. And you also wake up in the morning, you've got a family, you have children, or you have a child, you have to, you know, you gotta do the laundry, you gotta do dishes, you gotta do all of the ordinary stuff, you know. I mean, like after expensive laundry, that whole thing. But like, is it do you ever find it challenging to balance all the different aspects of your nature?

Living Multidimensional While Managing Real Life

Indie 15:44

Absolutely, 100%. Yes, because the 3D is actually very difficult for me. I struggle ridiculously in the 3D. Um, just as you've seen my camping video, like floating down the river. Like, you know, just getting all the camping gear and equipment, the things that you need, and then like the food, like the planning, like the processes of 3D, and like like actually going through that when you're constantly functioning at a multidimensional level, that can become a little bit difficult because it's almost like your brain is like a little bit ADHD, right? It's like you you're you are nurturing like many different um perceptions, many different windows, many different remote views simultaneously. You know, however your your brain wants to compartmentalize those experiences, but yeah, you are consciously aware of taking in a lot of information simultaneously. Um, so you know, the good the good way to go about that is to just try to seal those things off if you're needing to focus, right? Because if you got to get from point A to point B, you know, it doesn't do you any good to sit there and be trying to communicate and allow those things to come in. Do they come in where you're trying to navigate the 3D? Sometimes, yes, but um, I try to just make time and space for that within myself. Um, have my own sacred protocols, meditation, um, my own personal grid work, my own personal assignments. Really, it's about divine communion with source at the end of the day, um, and listening to the internal commandments. Um, internal commandments with source and divine alignment with that only then allows more mission work to come to you because you are proving almost that you will listen to commands within yourself. Because the Guardian Alliance is really based off of all of the divine Christos Sophia races that are aligned with the eternal source. So, you know, if you are communicating with beings that are from these higher dimensional races and nations that have taken these covenants and they're communicating something to you, I mean, you can take that as information, you can take that and apply it however you want. But if you are in alignment with the planetary restoration goals, which I am ultimately, um I sometimes take those things as commandments because if they have things to bring through to me, they're gonna just imprint the vision into me. Um and then it's kind of up to me to decode that somewhat and then deliver those messages, so to speak. Um, I find myself at the head of information that's coming in in terms of global restoration. So it's always like the current events and the current alignments and 360-degree awareness of things that are occurring across the planetary globe and grid, because they are the underlying messages to where the guardians are next positioning themselves to ultimately help humanity with the next course corrections, because these nations and races are committed to re to rehabilitation of the planetary body, like the defense systems and the divine governance of not just this harmonic universe, but all five harmonic universal sectors in the galaxy. So there's a lot that's going on with these alliances. Um but there's only so much that's relative to humanity here on Earth.

Defining The Guardian Alliance Clearly

Claire 19:19

Um can you talk about the guardians? Who who do you understand the guardians to be? How can you explain that to somebody who's hearing that term for the first time?

Indie 19:30

Yeah, uh, well, I explain it as they are a supreme interdimensional council of Christoph Sophia aligned nations that are in service to the eternal law of one. Now, some people have tried to debunk the eternal law of one. Someone came at me with something the other day saying the eternal law of one is like um they tried to um basically say something against the raw materials and things like this. But essentially, I think that's BS, because I mean, if you even just think about it, right? Like the law of one, okay, all living beings, no matter like what dimensional spectrum they're in, like they need they need the dimensional spectrum of creation to exist, period. All living beings are breathing the same air. We all need the same things, water, right? That in itself is proof and verification that the eternal law of one is real. Okay, so I just want to say that first and foremost because I I don't I don't like when people try to like bring that stuff to me because it just feels so demonic and satanic. But basically, the Guardian Alliance, it functions as the cosmic administrative body that governs restoration, it governs defense, and it governs ascension of this planetary system. And the main command station for that is in Mentaka, it is in the Orion system. And within the Orion system, it contains like a cosmic nucleus of the solar Christian restoration timeline protocols in the on the earth. And this functions from the Emerald Founders Oversights. Um, it comprises of orders of divine service, like many angelic lineages. Um, the Elohi, the Seraphai, um, the preserved and original Melchizedek council orders that um you know come from the original creation sets from specific stargates. Um it pertains to many of the Guardian nations, such as the original Rhines, the Andromedans, the Arcturans, the Pleiades, the Syrians, the Venusians are a part of this, um, Cygnusians, the Hydrans. There's many unseen nations that are a part of the Guardian Alliance. It also contains Earth spirits, and it also functions through emissaries. Angelic humans like starseeds and grid keepers and people who hold the active DNA templates to take contracts for reclamation of the earth. So it's basically a governing administrative body that's managed by divine alignment. That's what it is.

Claire 22:18

So we love that.

Indie 22:19

Yeah, it's a frequency field, basically, of governance.

Claire 22:23

So there, yes, I mean, and just um the for us to get our minds around. Um, now I know that a lot of what you just said probably went over a lot of people's heads, and that's okay, guys, because when Indy speaks, she's you there are codes, right? Codes are coming out. Take what resonates, let it move through you, and don't worry about trying to understand every single thing. I highly recommend um her book, um, your first book, because you've got two.

Indie 22:50

And let me put it in perspective for you. Sometimes when I speak, sometimes that happens to me as well. I'm speaking and I'm not entirely like, do you know what I mean? It's almost like sometimes the speaking is channeling in itself. And then sometimes I even go back, and that's what's so amazing. Like, I think even why I have my channel in the first place, because I will go back and watch my own videos and be like, what did I just say? And then I have to reintegrate what I said because it's it is so much. But you know, I you so it's hard to explain exactly always what's happening while that's happening. But just know that um sometimes it doesn't always feel like it it feels like I'm I'm opening up channels for information to come through, is what it feels

Reclamation And The Hidden War Over Stargates

Indie 23:39

like.

Claire 23:39

That's what it feels like to me too. And and uh can I bring it back to what you said, the word that was used a few times, which was reclamation, reclamation of the earth, reclamation of the earth. And I think maybe you know, this is an important idea to seed for people who are encountering this kind of information for the first time, is that we are in a process of reclamation, and that means that the earth has been under control, you know, has been under um imposition by forces that have sought to um uh extract and harvest from her not only the planetary body of the earth, but who she is, her essence. And you mentioned the Christos Sophia lines, and this is something that I talk about from time to time, not in any great detail, but um, you know, this to me is about the relationship between the earth and the sun and the human and who the humans are, who we are, um, and and what our purpose is here. We are in a process of reclamation. Um, we are reclaiming our our uh planet, we're reclaiming ourselves, we're reclaiming our memory, we're reclaiming our um organic templates, um, I guess we could say, right? And so I would love to hear you talk more about um why we're in a process of reclamation. We we are missing so much of our history. We have been essentially taught nothing, and what we have been taught has been largely distorted. So, you know, I I compare this to being like, you know, um, you know, imagine like being born into the last 10 pages of a book that's millions of pages long, and you don't have any context for understanding. Um, this is this is normal to you. This is how you live, but a lot of people are gonna be like, wait, wait, wait, what? So can you just give us a a a thumbnail sketch, if you can, of what's going on here?

Indie 25:41

The planet is weaponized and booby-trapped, and it has been for a very, very long time on this earth. Um it's definitely the tale of light versus dark. In the beginning, that wasn't the intention for humanity. Um in the beginning, that there were definitely primordial spirits and primordial feminine councils that actually came here and they kind of created um the Stargates, they created the race morphogenetic field, they created the portals, they created um the core of the planet, the spiritual body of the earth. They were a part of this great um unfolding of the human angelic body that existed here on the planet. But what happened throughout our galactic history, this is what's ultimately withheld from us, is that we have a galactic history. When you're like our history, we don't know who, you know, this all of our ancient origins have been withheld from us in terms of who are these galactic beings, who are these galactic races, who are these galactic nations that have contributed to who humanity is. Well, and that's a part of the great deception, is they don't want us to have our identity. Um, I believe this is all held through AI, um, Hyperborean AI, that this goes back to Hyperborean AI, and this goes through their databases and their data centers that they've had since the original root race of humanity, which is all that we can recollect really within this great cycle of our existence. But I do think, I mean, that's taking us back at least 550,000 years on this planet, but that this goes much farther than that. Um, but that they keep these genetic um libraries within hyperborean AI data centers. I think the core access point of this is in SS3, which is the Bermuda Triangle, which is, I think, is uh where they have sub-data facilities within Atlantean records, things that are sold within um stored within Atlantean records where they keep the genetic framework of humankind. But these are these are this information's locked away. You know, do the 13 bloodlines, the Illuminati bloodlines, do they have access to this? Um, do the corrupt and rich billionaires on the planet do they have access to this? Well, yeah, I think so. I think these are the bloodlines that are the descendants of the original invaders on this planet against the original human natives that carried the original angelic soul body blueprint, that they came to this planet, that they raped us, they force bred us, and they mutated us. Um, and ultimately, I think it the the goal of that was to attain our spiritual power, right? Because a lot of these invader races were inherent to this living earthly system, that the original natives of Earth, the original angelic bodies, that they would have attained the ability to coordinate all access to the stargates, to that living original architecture to and primordial creation, right? They had the access rights to these things, they have the governance rights to this planet. So, how do they gain access to that, right? It is to it is to mate with these types and it is to merge their bloodline with it so then they can gain access. So, I mean, that's kind of what's happened here. The the whole universe is about race domination. It is about um survival, race of this uh survival of the species type things. And everything that we see that is so absurd and just what feels so diabolical and what feels like it's it's victimized this planet has come through the need to obviously uh gain control over the resources on this earth. So yeah, it came down through honestly, the first galactic falls were force breeder programs. And I feel so crazy to say that sometimes because it's just like where do I have a reference point for this? But I've talked about this before, being where you can see in history is obviously the giants, um, the Nephilim Wars, things like this when they came and mated with human um women on the earth. Um, this goes back to the Lemurian Holocaust, uh, this goes back to Atlantean Holocaust, all the world wars. Um, it's ultimately over the governance of the resources. And and the number one resource on some level is the Stargate system because the Stargates are the um override command nodes on the planet where you can gain power, you can gain access to all sorts of timeline dimensions on this planet, you can gain access and control to collective consciousness spheres within the planet. Um, you can actually govern like mental spheres within the earth if you control Stargate uh regions and things like this. So ultimately it go comes back to Stargate Wars.

Claire 31:15

So um, yes, and I really want to talk about that too as it relates to current events on the world stage. But um, you know, I I used to not understand it took me a long time to to understand what was meant by Illuminati because I was like, well, they're not ill, they're not illuminated. I'm like, they're not of the light, so why are they called Illuminati? Well, then I realized, oh, we're talking about the false light, and we're talking about the fact that they have a lot more information than anybody else. And so that's how they dominate, right? They they they are you know in illuminated in the sense that they have uh access to a lot of knowledge that has been kept from everybody else, and that's how the few have controlled the many for so long. Um, and you know, I always try to remember the principle when things start to feel too convoluted in my mind, and I'm trying to understand things and you know, put uh pieces of the puzzle, this infinite puzzle together. I try to come back to basic universal principles, like as above, so below, and like look at what's happening to the planet, how things operate on this planet, and realize, okay, we can um extrapolate from that and understand that this is not just this is not just local to our planet and our planetary situation. It occurs here because it is occurring at you know in a nested in the nested reality out there, not only in the the galaxy, but in the in the multiverse. Uh, and and you know, that we're part of something that is so uh vast, so um seemingly infinite um within the within the false construct, you know, which has been what that part of the universe that has been invaded by this AI that you're describing, um, which I've which I've only just called the the ancient AI. I don't have any that's just my intuition too, right? But um yeah, that there's actually something going on that is such a such a huge picture um that we haven't been permitted to see, right? And only uh people who are super plugged in like you and other people that I've had the the good fortune to encounter, you know, who who are actually able to bring parts of this puzzle back into our collective awareness. Um, but that this has been going on for for and and maybe that is the purpose of the human avatar, you know, uh our our incarnational uh vessel, um, and and the fractal nature of that vessel, which has the potential to um to integrate and alchemize all the energy in the universe, and that's why we're so valuable. So you put the most valuable beings or you know on the most valuable planet in a way, um because we are the fractal, and so we're like the key to everything here and who who and here, who we are and where we are, and and so of course the opposer in this game is gonna want to gain control over that, and and I guess we could say has been largely in control of that for longer than anybody has a memory of. Is that accurate in your view?

Disclosure, Akashic Records, And DNA Access

Indie 34:56

Yes, I mean this this is this is why if humanity really knew the truth of their ancient origins. I mean, I don't think people feel that are these gatekeepers. They feel that this is why disclosure is coming up the way it is recently. Disclosure has been on the mainstream in a way that I don't think anyone's ever seen before. And we're predicted 2026 to 2027 that we may have full alien declassification that's that's coming, and that is because we're we're reaching these uh ascension biological markers within the planet that um ultimately for the human race to be healed, that the reclamation of their human origins actually has to be restored, actually has to be returned to them. This information isn't gone or lost, it's just withheld. It is held organically in the planetary Akashic Records. Um, it is held organically in planetary guardian stargates, and there's there's actually a structure that looks like the um uh it's called uh like a hypercube, but it's it's an organic hypercube and it it kind of looks like it's like plasma, and it's it sustains all of this uh through the Guardian Stargate networks in specific areas in the planet where it's safeguarded that actually contains the information and the records. Um, but again, these are structures that the normal person, like you said, isn't gonna be able to access or have access to, which you can access it and have access to if you repair your DNA, if you repair it, at least your 12-dimensional avatar body, which is your planetary body, which is where you can start gaining access to the planetary noosphere, which is the planetary mind. And, you know, you get initiated to these processes. Your body has to be able to hold the frequency and the quantum energy to be able to sustain access to those things in the first place. So that's why the processes can take a long time to get to that level if if that's where you're going. Well, no, sometimes it's just a simple blockage between your solar plexus and your third eye or something like this. Like it can be that simple. Um believe it or not.

Claire 37:15

But but I mean that that explains why we've been so interfered with, too, doesn't it? I mean, like why we're under constant assault with all of these chemtrails and the food and the, you know, I mean, basically poisoned, cumulatively poisoned over time, and it seems to really have been intensifying for the last five, six years. You know, it's it's to to keep us from waking up, to keep us from, because actually, and and isn't this just part of a it's a culmination, it's a convergence that must happen. They there's no choice. We don't have a choice in the matter. You know, it's not just us, it's not just the planet, it's the solar system, it's the it's the the galaxy, it's the universe. All of these cycles are converging at once. And so it's inevitable, but there has been a lot of energy aimed to tamp it down to keep us in ignorance, try to hijack somehow, hijack this convergence that's that cannot be stopped.

Indie 38:14

Right, because I mean all the weapon systems that they're using, I mean, they'll ultimately dissolve in in the future timelines. I mean, as Earth sustains more of a higher-dimensional earth vibration, this is all temporary. All of the hijack is temporary, all of the fall is temporary. It's not even real. The fall isn't real. The fall is an implant program that was installed through the Templar systems to ultimately, yeah, keep us suppressed in those records. It's like a huge global crucifixion wound. The crucifixion and the martyrdom implants on this planet are the the crux in which withholds the covenant of origin from humanity. That's what the Guardian Alliance wishes to return to humanity and then will ultimately return the origin, the covenant of origin, which is the it's a covenant or decree to bring back the original records of humanity.

Claire 39:10

Wow. Okay.

Indie 39:12

So that's what that's what that but everything that's dissolving, all of these hard things that are dissolving, all this awareness of the trauma and the pain, the separation, these force-britter programs, whatever it is. The hybridization programs of human species with ETs, right? That's that origin when that origin record gets returned, then everything can be worked through. Everything can be ultimately settled, all of the karmic debts can be settled. Everything that has to ultimately integrate um the bloodlines and dissolve the bloodline wars, the fractures in the bloodline wars, because I mean, ultimately, we know this goes back to the the biggest negative ET infliction upon humanity is the Draconian, Sumerian, Anunnaki bloodline warfare. I mean, this is the largest organization, I guess you could say, lineage that has incurred this infraction upon humanity and is is why humanity is ultimately bleeding out at the core of it. I mean, so just to put a name on it, right? Like that, that there's many other races, and and anything beyond that is just like it's devastating distortion. You know, any sort of hybridizing with negative E2 bloodlines, I mean, it feels so unthinkable, but this is the depth of evil and shadow that we're dealing with here at the level of weaponization that has occurred. But like I said, New Earth though, this doesn't exist in New Earth, right? Like as we evolve and as we like become into this space where we're reclamating the reclamation that we talked about, the reclamation of the adenic template will return, where all things in exist existence restore back to the original body. This is where the eternal law of one comes back in, right? Because that's the confusion within existence itself, is the idea of separation. It is the biggest trauma that the soul monadic body of humanity carries. And until we recognize that we cannot evolve the species, this is this is where I get kind of like hung up because a lot of people will say, Well, when I die, I'm going somewhere, I'm not coming back, da-da-da-da-da-da, blah, blah, blah. I don't think that's really even possible because your soul actually comes from the earth. I hate to break it to you, but the soul comes from the planet. It actually um doesn't even leave the earth to go to heaven. I mean, the head, the heavenly, it it does, it will access um the higher dimensions of heaven that are within celestial bridges, but that the whole structure is is contingent upon the structure within Earth. So you can't really just take a hiatus. Like we are all indebted to the original fractures within the original structures of the soul monadic um body of humankind. So we all return to heal that within. And it's like we all will descend when everyone is ready. We or we all will transcend when everyone is ready. So this is about seeing the eternal body of existence.

Earth As Mother And Living Architecture

Claire 42:31

Okay. So so does that mean that the human race, the original human, is in is original to Earth? Uh yes. So she really is our mother. Yes. Yes. Through that Christic Sophia, Sophianic line. Yes. Okay. Yes. So um, okay. So we were given a model of Earth. Wow. My mind is just going like this right now, but we were given a model of Earth. I'm so sorry. No, it's like it's amazing. Okay. I I'm just, I'm just real, no, I mean, because I'm the realizations are stacking in me, like the degree to which we have been, you know, lied to, distorted, you know, the the the the the image that keeps coming back to my mind is the um is learning about earth as a child, you know, in books about, you know, our world, our planet, you know, our solar system, and stuff like that. And and you know, the information that the the earth was this, you know, round ball with a crust, and then at the at the center of it was this iron core, you know, and lots of lava and magma, you know, coming up to the surface. But I mean, that's not it that's like a dead model of of this planet. She's so much more than that. And she's shall the planetary expression of a consciousness of the mother. Yes. And within her, within her body, her planetary expression, there are worlds within worlds. And some of them are physical material, and some of them are non-physical. You talk about crystalline, you talk about diamond, emerald, you talk about all of these different uh energies, I guess. And I I would love to learn more about the structure. And of course, this is related to the portals, the stargates, the the ley lines, the vortexes, all of this stuff. You know, like the planetary architecture, internal architecture. Where what is this beautiful being that we're living on?

Indie 45:00

Well, she definitely has many names, and I like to call them planetary saints. Um you know, you have the solar dragons lineage that I feel like defines this mama Tiamat, um, Tara, Gaia, Pachamama, Iru, um, Mama Kawaii, um just the serpent's body herself. I mean, if you go back to the ancient timelines of Mu, which is considered the motherland, this is where this spirit was able to be the freest, and the and the beings that existed in Mu were the most connected. And they have something called ancient Nikal tablets, which I do feel like contains the original origin of Earth, like contains her um records and things like this, but that they said that it was a seven-headed serpent. Um, and really this was representing the turning of the tectonic plates. And if you think about the nature of the tectonic plates, they're like always consuming themselves, right? They're always like um it's like the Oraborus, like that is like her true nature um to be self-sustaining. She is um auto, there's a name for it, like auto um generative or something. There's like an actual, she is uh a divine birthing priestess, right? When you think about parthenogenesis creation, self-replication, things like this. That is like her nature.

Claire 46:47

So this is the toroidal field, right? This is the self-generating, self-sourced field that is constantly renewing itself.

Indie 46:58

Yes. And it's a holographic earth, it's a holographic universe, it's sustained by holographic portals, stargates, ley lines, all of the architecture that we've been discussing, that it creates the foundation for what is physical to be sustained within it. So, really, when you're kind of seeing these things, you're just tuning into that holographic world and seeing how it's existing through what is physical, like having almost like x-ray vision, but interpreting that through your psychic senses and things like this. But this is all a part of our earthly spiritual immune system and what actually keeps us alive on the planet. It's what gives way and it's what bends reality, why timelines always seem so fluid, why reality seems so fluid. Like some things seem concrete, but most things actually aren't. And why time like shifts and changes and molds all things, it's because it's us adapting to that time space within the holographic nature of the planet.

Claire 48:03

Wow.

Indie 48:06

So yeah, we've they're called they're called timeline dimensional models. It's actually in I wrote like a whole chapter on this in my book, The Guardian Alliance Grid Work in New Earth Prophecy. Um, I talk about how these timeline dimensional models exist through the holographic body, that there's multiple layers, multiple templates of these, multiple timelines of these, um, which timelines in history and humanity, which models are holding up? Like it's a very deep explanation of what that looks like. Um, we have things called divine blueprints as well that uphold the prophecy um timelines, the revelational timelines of humanity, and that allow us to continue to have access to future vision and things like this, um, such as like the dove light grid, the Lemurian light grid, the swan light grid, like these are all connected to the prophecy, prophecy strongholds on the planet and which vortices on the earth are sustaining those and keeping those alive within the planet as well. So yeah, this is so big, right? This is so big. It's such a vast, huge world. And it it is a lot to take in all at once. But it's important to know, I think, just for the fact that some people that feel like, oh, this world is doomed, you know, um, all these evil things and these bad things are happening, but really the organic matrix is the strongest matrix on the planet. Everything else that is invading or synthetic, it's just functioning from duplication of that organic structure. So yeah, we have to safeguard what is organic, where we know the organic structures um do exist. And right now, there's many portions of the planet right now that are under extreme turmoil and warfare, which um that's where the guardians come into play.

Claire 50:04

Right. So would it be fair to say that um you could compare the organic structure to truth itself, right? Like only truth is true, and only true truth has any real existence, legitimate existence. Whereas everything else is overlay or mimicry, synthetic, that that cannot withstand the light of truth, and ultimately it is gonna have to dissolve and it will leave everything perfect as it in its original state of perfection.

Indie 50:36

Yeah, yeah, you said that really good.

Claire 50:39

Thank you.

Indie 50:40

Yeah, yeah.

Claire 50:42

Um, yeah, in other words, don't worry, everything's gonna be fine, everybody.

Indie 50:49

It is, but the but the attention of our awareness is very significant and in our own power as well, and our own contribution to

Mission Work, Shadow Work, And Wisdom

Indie 50:56

it. That's what we have to recognize. It actually, we uh they don't want us to sit back and do nothing and just wait for things to happen. They want us to be active participants in the planetary ascension process because right, because this is not passive, right?

Claire 51:12

Yeah, it is actually happening through us and through our through every realization that we have, through everything that we heal individually because of our fractal nested nature, right?

Indie 51:24

Yes, yeah, yes, that we have a duty and we have a responsibility to do that. Um, if we're doing anything else, honestly, other than mission work, we are actually out of alignment with our true angelic inheritance. We we are actually, and it is crazy that is to say, you know, as abrupt as that could be for some people that might not like that or want to hear that. It doesn't mean that you're doing anything bad or harmful or wrong, but that it could be the reason why there's some sort of ache inside where you don't feel completely um fulfilled on a soul level. I think that's for every person to really evaluate that within themselves.

Claire 52:06

But yeah, super, super powerful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the only reason that we do have that ache and that unfulfillment, even if at first it takes a form of you know, craving or desire that's coming through the ego, um, it it always has a root much deeper in some kind of soul uh longing. So yeah, I mean, absolutely. When when I was starting my because you know, I I had a whole different past, I was an actor for 25 years. I was I was the show business world. And and when I when I uh shifted into what I do now as a as a mentor and and a guide and all of that, you know, I mean that that was the that was the really the focus and the thrust of my work was to to help people tune into, well, what is that soul longing? And it was really just a reflection of my own, you know, answering my own call, which I was trying to try to, you know, that mission wanted to emerge, but it was trying to emerge through a template that wasn't gonna be able to host it. And so, you know, it had to had to shift. But yeah, I mean, I I don't think I it it may seem like a radical statement, but it is true, you know, if if you're not on mission um at this time when it is so absolutely necessary, um, then it you somehow in your life you're not gonna feel like everything is is right.

Indie 53:31

Yeah. Exactly. And you'll be you'll be continually prompted um to have to reevaluate that and keep coming back to that and keep coming back to that. I mean, even into like like your 50s, your sixties, your seventies, like you, you will keep coming back to it. Um because it's it's the knowing that that is there that everyone really needs to listen to that. It's it's it's hard to listen to that again because it's like you have to shed layers, you have to shed the programs of social norms and things like this. I mean, you think it's easy for me to come out and be like, hey, my name is Indigo Angel. Like, this is my angelic identity. Like, yeah, everybody in their mom is looking at me like, what who does, what is this, who does this lady think she is? You know what I mean? But it's not it's not something to, I'm not better than anyone else. It's just that some souls are inherently more destined to um walk within that higher mission soul path. Everybody ultimately is, right? But again, this is where your hybridization stuff, you gotta get a handle on that. Like you gotta you gotta really break that down within yourself because if you have a high percentage of Anunnaki DNA or reptilian DNA or something like this, like you you do have to rehabilitate that DNA. Because it is it is considered like fallen DNA technically, or it's or it's carrying the implant system of the fall codes, right?

Claire 55:03

Right. So, how would somebody do that? Rehabilitate their DNA.

Indie 55:11

A lot of work. There's not no one answer, and it's not the same for every person, but it is a lot of work, it's full dedication. It's it's full dedication for some, it's just to simply healing. There's many different phases of where someone is within the process, but it's about no longer denying what the soul is desiring, um and also placing human desires in submission, um, and embracing more of a virtuous identity, I guess you could say. Um but it requires lots of things. I mean, for me, it required a massive amount of clearing my field, 360 degrees, implant removals, things like this. I talk about this, it's definitely a part of like my consistent work within myself, my my ethical work, and also the gifts that healing gifts that I bring to other people. But they rep, it's what they represent is why those removals are so imperative, because it's like a constant um declaration that you're removing yourself from known distortions that depress or oppress humanity. So multiple declarations of this, keeping yourself elevated from the artificial matrix, the reversal matrix, the fallen matrix, things like this, so that way you can operate from a place now that you can actually access consciousness even within yourself that allows you to not function with the same limitations.

Claire 56:49

So yeah. So it's possible to function as a multidimensional being in this layer. Is that is that what's meant by being in the world but not of it?

Indie 57:02

Yes. Yes, it can be so simple. Yes, right? Like that's such a beautiful way to say that.

Claire 57:10

Um when we heal something, when we heal something within ourselves, when we do our inner work, let's say, when we do our shadow work, does that automatically um heal the DNA?

Indie 57:25

Yes. Absolutely. Yes. The shadow is this is how I had the thought the other day. The shadow is not something to fear. The shadow is a place for you to learn. Um fear, fear, the whole like construct of like uh 5D is love, 3D is fear, God is love, the devil is fear, but all things exist within the eternal law of one. The the darkness, the shadow, the evil, what's hard to look at, that is a tool. And the better that you are able to navigate that part of your own self-exploration, um, go into those spaces, the stronger of an initiate, of a spiritual grid worker, of being in alignment with your purpose, you're going to be. Like that's something you should look at it and want to tackle that. You should not be afraid of it. You should not be afraid of the things you fear. You can be afraid of the things you fear, but um rise to the challenge to meet those fears and work within fear and use fear as one of your greatest teachers. That's that's my advice that people who are willing to do that, they become the leaders of the world.

Claire 58:53

The real leaders of the world, as opposed to the fake leaders that are up there on the stage.

Indie 58:59

Yeah. I mean, everybody's trying, right? But you know, um, some people are wearing masks, some people are super deceptive. Yeah, that's a whole other, that's a whole other realm of gameplay, but know who you're dealing with, you know, um trusting yourself, trusting your intuition, trusting your own psychic senses and knowing. Um stay in alignment to your inner alignment. That's the most important thing is your inner alignment with source, divine creator, like that being so strong that it really people can affect you. And yeah, you can get attacked by collective biospiritual weapons and things like this. And yeah, you're gonna have to take those hits. Everybody does. But when you stay alignment to your own knowing, your own inner guidance, no one can kind of move you out of alignment to that. That is your protective field. That is your shield, that's your guardian shield. That activates, and as long as you are in that alignment, um, you're 100% shielded. So it's it's walking in that grace, you know, walking in that consciousness.

Claire 1:00:11

That's so funny because that's what I always sign off these podcasts with walk in grace. Um, that's that's how I experience it, right? Um, yeah, that grace is that state of wholeness when you have totally embraced an integrated light and shadow. Um, and there's no rejection of self in there anymore. And I think this is a real challenge for humans because part of our programming has been to tell us how bad we are, right? How shameful, how sinful, how guilty we should be, how indebted we are, you know, and this has just been to beat down the the truth of our nature, you know. Um and and so, you know, for us to for you for you to to to what you so beautifully said earlier, you know, like this is me and this is my angelic nature, and I'm living my angelic nature. The only reason that somebody would recoil from that is if they if if they feel like, well, you know, how can how can you say that? You know, well, that that's an indication that there is um you know self-loathing, self-rejection, you know, when you see it in somebody else and you can't handle it. Um, because we all, as you said, you know, we all have that within us, you know, and we and there's nothing to be ashamed of if you chose a bloodline that has a you know um a high amount of um like draconian or reptilian whatever DNA and you know there's programming in there. Well, we we we we come here by agreement, we choose those things for a reason. We're here to overcome to to um shine the light through all of that, and we can reprogram ourselves when we totally embrace everything, right? That's back to the law one, right? That everything is one. So um, yeah, I mean, I don't know any better formula than as you stated, you know, facing your fears, embracing what you're afraid of, and realizing that it's not gonna kill you, it actually is gonna illuminate your life. I I have the the proof of that in my own life, you have the proof of that in your own life. Anybody I've ever talked to who's done that has nobody has said, Oh, it was the first thing I could have ever no, everybody says that was the moment where I had to face the thing that I was afraid of. And when I did that and walked through the fire, then I was reborn on the other side of that. So we have that capacity.

Indie 1:02:35

Well, and when you talk about divine source law, one of the one of the the laws I guess that is closest to source is the law of wisdom. And to attain, to attain wisdom, you have to attain understanding in all things. And that is to understand every element of the self, right? To understand the shadow, to understand what is dark, what is hidden, what is um, even the ego. Um, this is another whole gimmick in the whole spiritual consciousness community, as well, is that we like, oh, we use the ego as a weapon. We use it to hurt people, um, shame people, uh, whatever it is, right? Like that whole thing. But really to attain the highest wisdom, it's to understand all aspects of the ego and its ultimate function, which it's because it does have good functions as well. It is to protect, it is to serve. Um, it does all kinds of things that you might not be aware of in just your everyday functioning, but that it's not the enemy within yourself. Um so yeah, demonizing the self, um, misunderstanding the self and misunder, and this is again, these are all things that will return when the covenant of origin gets returned and all of the bloodline wounds get restored on the planet because these are all a part of that, like these simple things that are just essential to healing, right? That this is created to the infiniteness of understanding who we are, which is the ultimate wisdom.

Claire 1:04:19

So um and that's know thyself.

Indie 1:04:24

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Claire 1:04:28

So everything that seems weird and foreign and out there to us from our um perspective of um limitation and the deliberate um manipulation of our perception to be able to only see a tiny, tiny percentage of the spectrum. Um it is just how we feel standing inside that limitation, but it is not indicative of who we actually are. It's just um a uh symptom of our condition, of the current condition of most of humanity, and we have nothing to be ashamed of.

Indie 1:05:07

Yes, yes. That that came with implants, like the original shame was um when they realized they were naked in the Garden of Eden, right? This was like when all the like the storms came in and stuff, like, oh, we're naked, we're so shameful, right? Like that's yeah, go back to that ancient memory within yourself, remove those distortions that are there. You know, um, this is what reclaiming your DNA is about. It's really getting to like your ancient self and realizing that all these things that have happened throughout time, like nothing is actually separated from you. Nothing is even the wars that are occurring right now, you know, everything is connected back to us on a cellular level. Everything. Why? The eternal law of one. Again, we're all sharing the same air, it's the same. Consciousness that's keeping us all alive. We're all taking that in in daily communion every single day through every breath. So yeah, that's how the holographic universe functions is through that tether. That tether alone through breath is infused with the plasma crystalline matrix.

Crystalline Plasma, Sun Codes, And Chemtrails

Claire 1:06:21

Wait, okay. So can you say oh what does that mean?

Indie 1:06:25

It's it's a part of the holographic um quantum field that ties all life and existence together, but it's but there's many different levels of that. Um I see the plasma crystalline matrix is like almost like a um a living electrical current of plasma that moves through all things. It tie it ties the air, it ties the land, and it ties the waters together. That it's there's no separation of this fabric. Um it's really the the mother grid. There's a I call it the mother grid, but it's it's the grid that keeps all living things together through the mother mitochondria of the planet and the mother mitochondria within ourselves.

Claire 1:07:15

Okay. Um is it fair to compare this to the element ether? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes, it's connected through.

Indie 1:07:26

Um yeah, you I would say it connects through all dimensions of your aura. And I almost feel like the ether is a part of the aura. Um it's also a part of the astral, it's also a part of the causal part of the body, it's also a part of the catheter, the universal. These are all um dimensional strands that connect in through our bodies and you know ultimately hold that entire fabric together. But yeah, I say the crystalline plasma, um, it's a flowing essence, it does move through the crystal veins, um, which are connected to the ley line systems.

Claire 1:08:08

Crystal veins of the earth. Okay.

Indie 1:08:12

Um, yeah, because right, we're all like connected to these structures that uphold us all together here, but the it's it's um it's what sustains the higher evolutionary phases of the earth's light body and our light body as well.

Claire 1:08:31

Okay, so are we receiving this crystalline plasma from the sunlight?

Indie 1:08:36

Yes, definitely.

Claire 1:08:38

Okay, and that's why they want to block the sun too, right? To interfere with those codes.

Indie 1:08:43

Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, so there's yeah, again, there's all that weaponry we have to work to transmute. But you know, uh we do get small victories here and there. Um, at least here in Florida. We're both in Florida. So, I mean, we do see how there's certain wins that we get here that protects certain dynamics. Like we had the law passed so that they no longer can spray in the skies the chemtrailing.

Claire 1:09:14

They're still doing it every day, but this was one of the first states to pass that legislation.

Indie 1:09:20

Yeah. So I mean, I we had this is this is we had this is why the masses need to wake up. People need to quit sleeping so much, you know, and just like it's it's because they have so much comfortability. There's so much um not feeling like they have a responsibility to any of this work.

Claire 1:09:40

Yeah.

Indie 1:09:41

Right? Like the people who are not talking, using their voice, using their platforms, using, you know, just choosing to kind of turn off and be a drone. And honestly, this this is what the hybridization programs with the Greys did to humanity. I mean, like we have sleeper cells, we have synthetic beings, we have soulless beings, we have people that have been just so hybridized and modified through needlecraft technology. Like they actually kind of can't, some of them can't actually wake up.

Claire 1:10:10

Yeah.

Indie 1:10:10

There's so much damage to the DNA, to the soul, that some don't even have souls. I mean, it's so the ones this is this is the repair of the human angelic DNA is so imperative on this planet that we awaken as many as we can that you know carry this and and and get them on to their pathwork of being soul-embodied beings that actually walk with purpose and understand what this is about, what we're creating, where this is going. They need to have the full picture. If they if they can't have the full picture, they need to be connected to people that can help them see the picture. The vision holders of humanity are very important. People who can see into the future, the people who can hold the prophecies, they need to come forward and speak. You know, there we have to find ways to help uh this whole network of what we talked about, which is building these like future off-grid living communities where people can live the grid worker way, they can live the spiritual way on this planet, practice their ancient spiritual God's sovereign freedom rights, walk within the temples, become the temples, become the stargates, you know, anchor galactic civilization here. There we will find we will find ways to do this. It's it's already happening, we're all like already a part of it, but you know, it's a huge task and there's nothing to worry about. There really isn't. We're all contributing.

Claire 1:11:43

Well, yeah, and and I mean, that's exactly what I would say is it's already happening, you know. And if if you're listening to this and you're like, yeah, but I don't know what to do. I mean, you don't have to go out and and save the world. That was never how it worked in the first place. You know, you you work on yourself. That's always bringing it back to simplicity, right? You you work on yourself, you heal yourself, you metabolize your own shadow. Don't be afraid, accept yourself, love yourself, and stand up and be who you are. I mean, that's that's it. I mean, there's nothing else to do.

Indie 1:12:23

That's the solution. Um, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And we re and relearning the new the new ways of new earth, the new, the new nurturing ways.

Claire 1:12:36

Um remembering those ways, right? Because the natural human, the organic human, you know, when we can just like get out from underneath all our bullshit programming for a minute and a half, you know, I I still see lots of evidence that the that that human is still here within us and around us. Because, you know, anytime there's no matter how often we've been programmed to think that we are the problem, and and I know that there are a lot of human beings who are causing a lot of problems out there, but you know, usually what happens is if there's a big disaster or if there's a big storm, if there's something happens, what do you see people do? They come together. That's the first thing they do. They come together to help each other. You know, they they don't do it to get paid, they don't do it for, you know, they're they're helping each other, they're being human beings. This is happening, and you know, all we have to do is start with ourselves. And I feel like we can recover uh and restore our our template, no matter what is against us, we always have solutions, and um, you know, we're on schedule or maybe even ahead of schedule, and I would love to hear you talk about that a little bit more. I would love to hear you talk about what's happening on the world stage, what is really at stake. Because here's the thing like if we get stuck in uh politics, right-left polarization, and all of this um fighting about which side is right, we are completely missing the big picture here. Um, if you don't like certain world leaders, or if you have strong feelings about that, you need to be able to like hold that in abeyance for a minute and a half so that you can like get a start to get a grasp of a much bigger picture that's happening here and understand that what we're seeing is a show, it's a play, it it is curated, and we're gonna have to start to really learn to see through all of that stuff and understand that what what is happening is bigger than politics, it's bigger than nations, and that the wars that are happening are about are are functioning on the multidimensional level as well. And I would love to hear you talk about current events in that light.

Indie 1:15:12

I would so love to.

Pausing The Conversation And Planning Part Two

Indie 1:15:14

Um, I am gonna probably have to jump off though. I'm so sorry. I have to go pick my daughter up from school.

Claire 1:15:22

Um Well, maybe we can continue the conversation.

Indie 1:15:25

Yeah, yeah, we can do another one. We can do a part two.

Claire 1:15:29

Okay, all right. Let's let's do that. I'm gonna uh stop recording right now. Um