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Hustle Her - 50th - Part 2
Embarking on a journey through the highs and lows of human experience, today's Hustle Heart Podcast is a tapestry of laughter, tears, and the indomitable will that defines us. As your host, Deshay Caines, I'm thrilled to bring to the table Tyka's transformative tales, Auntie's (Maxanne Anderson) legal aspirations born from a poignant childhood memory, and Chelseas' tenacity in the face of adversity. Our stories intertwine to paint a vivid picture of the grit it takes to chase dreams and the resilience needed to stand tall through life's tempests.
Motherhood unfurls its complexity as Jasmine and Maxanne share their parenting philosophies, while Tyka imparts the wisdom she nurtures within her own daughter. Every misadventure, from hair removal cream fiascos to heartfelt moments of encouragement, shapes the profound insights we pass on to the next generation. These narratives are a celebration of the unbreakable bond between a parent and child, highlighting the power of love and understanding in raising daughters brimming with potential.
As we mark the 50th episode of this series, we honor the journey of every individual who has graced this podcast with their truth. The echoes of laughter, the shared moments of vulnerability, and the collective strive for purpose—each story is a thread in the fabric of our community. Join us in this milestone celebration, where the spirit of giving back, the courage to lead, and the joy of service converge to inspire and uplift every heart listening in today.
It's time for hustle her podcast. I'm your host, deshae Keynes. Hustle her is all about inspiring women through real life experiences that have helped to mold and develop not only me but my guests into the entrepreneurs and leaders we are today. If you're an enterprising woman determined to succeed and looking for a bit of motivation, a bit of tough love and some actionable takeaways to be the best you, girl, you are in the right place. Okay, guys, and we're back. I'm going to do a little trick. I learned from the best PR person on the planet, dewayne Keynes, and in five, four, three, two, all right, and we're back, guys. So what we're going to do is start, or go back and jump right into. I guess, and we'll start with you, tika, can you share a moment of self discovery that you had that was a significant impact in your life?
Speaker 1:and some of the choices that you make in your life. Sorry, I left that little piece on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, I think it would have stemmed from. So I went to a performing arts school when I was 12 years old. I left really, really young. That was like in DC, like navigating. There was like the sniper, and all of that.
Speaker 2:I realized, I think, at that time, that resiliency was actually my gift. I think also, being a performer, I've recognized that that's what God's asked me to do, just with who I am and how I present. And so, like, fast forward. You know, I'm 34 years old and I had this opportunity last year March actually to be flown to New York City and I was able to cook for like the editors and whoever they like. It was like I still I'm pinching myself.
Speaker 2:But what was dangerous about that, in a good way, is like, okay, baby girl, you get to dream big again. Because I think sometimes what happens is when you come back to this beautiful, you know island that we call commuter, sometimes you feel like, okay, so that dream didn't get, not on tour of Beyonce, so then you just have to. But it's like, no, ma'am, no, ma'am, you will show up like you are Beyonce every time. You will, because it your gift. You can't negotiate with God. Your gift is not a fun negotiation. So I think it was just being that 12 year old girl and recognizing that, like you got heart, you have resilience and you get to be a performer and no matter what you do, because you get to inspire and live artistry and embody it. I think that was a definitive moment for me and I think I get to tap into her, like every time I feel like I can't, but that would be it for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Auntie. What about you? What's a moment of self discovery that had significant importance to your life choices?
Speaker 3:I was about I can never remember the age about eight or 10, between eight and 10, a child at Purvis primary school, purvis, purvis, and something happened to one of my close friends. And before that, because I idolized my grandfather and I thought my grandfather was a pastor he was the head out of, but he always preached, so I thought I wanted to be a preacher too, right. So I was like, yeah, so I used to practice up in his bathroom, I'll practice my sermons and stuff like that. So I thought, yeah, I'm going to be a preacher. And but anyway, so this day at school she told us something and it changed my life forever because I could not understand how anyone could hurt a child. I did not come from that. I was extremely protected. I think I said in my podcast, even Cedar Heal protected me from myself.
Speaker 2:Cedar.
Speaker 3:Heal and yeah. So I was extremely protected. I was loved. I, you know, was bought up like this. Everybody had their arms around me, and so I just couldn't understand and I was saying to myself what am I going to do, what can I do? And I said I grew up I'm going to be a family judge, that's what I'm going to do. But at that point I didn't know you had to be a lawyer first. So I was a little disappointed. I had to become a family lawyer first. But anyway, yes, that was it All right, I love that.
Speaker 5:Charles. So for me I want to say it was when I was at Oakwood University, Charles.
Speaker 6:HP Charles Oakwood.
Speaker 5:Yes. So I was in my final year of college. I had a semester left and one day I was driving and I could not see at night and so I went to my mom and I was telling her like something is not right. And she was like no, and she said that because when I was little she rushed me to the hospital because I had a piece of sand in my eye. So the second time she thought I was crying wolf. But I was like no, something is like wrong. So I went to just one more. You know how they have like the eye place. I said you know I'm going to take myself. So I went and then they ended up telling me like oh, no, like we need to rush you to a specialist because you have carrot to come, and you may have carrot to come in, and carrots, cunis, is an eye disease. So when I went they was just telling me like you know, you have a couple of months, or you need to get surgery or you're not going to be able to see.
Speaker 5:So I was in my last semester. My mom figured everything out. She flew me to, took me, brent, to Toronto. I got a cross Lincoln surgery and one of the responses were that I need to come out of school and for me, I don't know, I I don't take no like, I don't take no fun answer. So they was telling me I should probably, you know, come out of school. And that's when I I always kind of knew that I was a fighter and I had heart, but I was not taking no fun answer.
Speaker 5:So I just enrolled my mom and I would wrote myself back to school and I was in school as a disabled student but a lot of people don't know that because I never really shared this story. So when I was in class I couldn't see anything Like my eyes were so bad. Eventually I was able to get glasses to help and assist, but even, like to this day, I can't drive at night right now because of my situation. But that situation for me was more of a discovery, especially because I had never won glasses before. So it went from like zero to 100, real quick, real quick. And just to see the fight. And, like I said, I had my mom with me too and she's a fighter as well and she's not going to let anything happen to me. So that was just a moment for me where I was just like and I graduated. And I graduated like, make them cool out of you and stuff. So I was just like, oh, this girl's got it Like she, she, she bad, that girl's bad.
Speaker 1:Sorry, charles, what about you?
Speaker 4:I think, when I think about, the largest sub-discovery I had to date would be when I moved to Connecticut with my two children on my own for work and I know you're going to come probably do a little bit of that later but it showed me that, you know, my strength was immense, right that I could literally do anything. After that Intentionally become in a single parent to progress my career was something that I didn't think to be fair, I didn't allow myself enough time to take it all in and really measure the magnitude of what I was getting ready to do. I was taking a three and a five year old overseas by myself with all my husband, to work in a very demanding job. But I did it right and I came back and I have the amount of pride I felt after being able to accomplish that right and my daughters, you know, witnessing me kind of make a sacrifice and being able to actually get it done is something that I would never leave me.
Speaker 1:Jess I was kind of hoping Jess.
Speaker 7:You know what, probably struggling with infertility, that period of and we talked about it a bit on the podcast but that period of lack of control, that period of feeling broken and being someone who shares and connects and feeling like am I not supposed to talk about this, so you don't talk about it, so we're not. I can't share this. For someone like me to not share that suffocating right and then to not have people in your circle that really kind of understood at that time, it taught me and I said this in the book it taught me faith. It taught me that I don't have control. I literally don't, as someone who loves control and loves to feel in control.
Speaker 7:And for the first time I had no answers. There was no reason. I just couldn't have what I wanted at the time that I wanted it and I was trying really hard. We were trying really hard.
Speaker 7:It was a two way thing, but it was the first time that I was like this is so if I try hard at, this is not going to get what I'm not going to get my way, I'm not going to see the result. There's no execution here. That doesn't make sense and I struggled with it and I felt so broken Like I was, like this is supposed to work and for the first time, and then to have my daughter afterwards and the fruit of resilience and to have a miscarriage and all those things. So it's that period in my life really taught me about just stepping back and realizing that what is to come and the future that is to be held for you will evolve exactly as it should and you have to trust that all that should be is going to come into fruition. But to see the gift on the other side, right, it's pretty magical.
Speaker 1:So we have so to be good to. Jasmine and auntie are all girl moms, and so, when speaking of motherhood and raising well, a woman now and young girls that you, you have what's something that you did differently with raising your girls, that was different from you, and what do you want them to know, or how do you want them, I guess, to feel about you, auntie?
Speaker 3:Sorry, what did I do differently, I don't know, because, and my mom, mom, do not start crying, I'm bad and I hear you ball it I just I love my mom, like I think once, the moment I had my daughter, I realized, oh my goodness, like parents honestly do the best that they can with what they have, right. So even even my father, my biological father, who didn't do what he was supposed to do, I still I love him tremendously, right, my mom never bed mouthed him to me. She never said anything negative to him, to, to me, about him. And even my stepfather, who was extremely strict. I love that man, right, he was trying to protect me from the world and so maybe that's it. Maybe I wasn't as strict and as protective like my mom was extremely protective. My stepfather was very strict because he was protective also of us, and I think I let Maxi feel a few things because she was very hardheaded and she needed. She needed to feel. Yes, she needed to feel some stuff, like one day.
Speaker 3:So I always said to Maxi Maxi, you must read. Reading is important. That's how they get you, maxi, read, right? So, my girl, what's your here this day? And she saw lotion in the bathroom on a bottle and anyway. So later on that evening we were out of function was one of these work functions when he was chief of staff and I was like somebody smells like near. I said, maxi, come here. So I smelled her head. The child's head smelled of near. They said Maxi, what have you done? Oh, I saw lotion. I said didn't I tell you to read, read child. So anyway, she didn't have to end up shaving her whole head at the time she had long hair so we had to cut it in a cute little bob, but I had to let her I you guys get it honest, don't don't like it. Just Maxi, no, no, no. I had to let Maxi feel some stuff for herself.
Speaker 1:I had to let her feel my Nana canes has a saying those who don't hear must feel, and I call it a sharnan canes proverb. It's so crazy because I I actually feel that more now as an adult than I ever do as a child.
Speaker 3:But anyway, sorry, I had to. Yes, so that was it I. I I, you know gave her a bitter rope and let her feel a few blows, so you had to she had to.
Speaker 1:So jazz, what about you? And what do you want mine to feel about you?
Speaker 7:I'm not gonna cry. I want my daughter to know that the day she was born she was loved fully, like my cup was full. There's nothing she could do in this world to make me love her more. There's no action, there's no activity, there's no girl, there's nothing, that she was loved completely the day she came into this world and that everything else is extra, and that I am here to support her in all of her dreams and her aspirations and I work my butt off to make sure that she has options and that I will for be fulfilled as a mother. When I see her pursuing her options and weighing them out and laying them all across the floor, saying, mommy, should I do this or should I do that? That is what I am here for, and so I just want her to know that.
Speaker 1:And Tika, I think you have the smallest baby.
Speaker 2:Don't tell her that, miss Amogen Adia so I'll take my approach will be the thing that I am proud that I've incorporated. That wasn't necessarily a part of my childhood and that would be just her groundedness and her spirituality. So I can tell you how this, how she mothers me right at what should be for February. I had, you know, a time recently where I was just like they able to, you know, talk to me and I'm just like can't do it, can't do it like this entrepreneurship can't do it. People don't get it. You know, working 20-hour days, sometimes you're so on the throat like you don't know if you're coming or doing whatever it is. And I excuse me, if motion is fine for me, it was fine for you. But I just remember he was sitting at the breakfast table, my hubby was on a trip, on a work trip, and she was eating her blueberries.
Speaker 2:And when I tell you, out of nowhere, it wasn't sorry time, it wasn't, we were getting ready for school and she looked at me, dead on my face, and she said don't give up on your dreams. And I said, I said what did you say, little miss Amazon? She said don't do that, don't give up on your dreams. And I was like okay, I said all right. I said I got you for me with her. It is, don't do what I say, it's not leading her to the water to make her drink, it's making her thirsty.
Speaker 2:So if I, if you cut up, you know, but if you know, if, if she acts in a way that is not you know, in alignment with I know who she is, I ask her how do you feel? I feel sad. And if she stands on Papa's foot or something, and how do you think Poppy feels sad? I said okay and I walk away. Poppy, I'm sorry, for I don't have to make you do what I say, because I think that's part of the broad Opsie that when you get free, who are you? So, little girl, when you walk in a room, know who you are, not because someone told you, but because you know from an intrinsic place who you are. And I think people that shift and shake and create the world know who they are first. So that is what I want, miss Amogen, of the afternoon as a mommy of two as a mommy of two.
Speaker 4:So my girls actually here tonight for a very deliberate reason because I am constantly telling them that they have to push through fear, right, everything that you do, you're gonna have fear in. There's always gonna be something that's gonna make you scared, and they need to see me do it too, right? So tonight they are here and I know they see me. I can't see them, but I call them my accountability partners because if this one thing my children are gonna do is hold me accountable, so if you said that you you're sorry for shouting at me today and tomorrow you shout again, you're gonna hear about it because you said you were not gonna shout at me anymore and her be again having this conversation, especially my youngest one.
Speaker 4:But I love that, right. I love that we can be so open with one another and you know I encourage it often like, come on, let's talk about it, let's. As long as you're respectful, we can have a conversation about anything. I want you to be able to tell me anything, and I think that that's important, not for me to foster in the home, because that's what they become as leaders and women in the future, right, and so they need to feel comfortable being able to speak up and saying what they, what they feel and how they feel to whoever right, as long as they can do it respectfully. So, girls, I know you see me, but you know that you are my world, that all of what I do is for you I would not be here if it wasn't for you and that mommy can't work through fear to you.
Speaker 1:I love you so we're gonna come to you now, charles, but this I'm gonna plant, mom I'm gonna keep, I have a nephew, so so Chelsea and DeVica have given me permission to do what I'm about to do, so I want to make it very clear that I'm not breaching any boundaries, but, charles and I'm sorry, tika giving me permission to do what we're about to do, and that's talking about grief and losing significant people that have that were in their lives, and I just want to talk to the two of you really quickly about one. I know, charles, it's a little fresher for you, but how have you been navigating? And Tika come to you after this period of grief in your life so I guess like, oh, but okay.
Speaker 5:So when everything, of course, when everything first happened, I was, I had just seen him and then I went away and I wasn't even away for 24 hours and I was with my best friend and I got a call to basically say you know, my brother was gone, he had passed and it's just within seconds. You're like just changes, you're not the same person anymore. Like a lot of things are different, relationships are different, and one thing I can say it was very dark. I, literally I was very dark and I would never forget coming off the plane, running home to my mom and breaking down in my driveway and my mom telling me get up. Oh, she, she, I'm got it, I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. My mom basically telling me to get up and I'm like I'm done with it, like I'm done with entrepreneurship, I'm just done with everything, I'm just done. And she was like that's not how we were gonna finish this race. And so in the, in the, in the point of darkness, when we think about darkness, we think that nothing is happening in darkness, but in darkness, if you think about a plant and you think of when things are planted in the soil, it's dark until when it grows, and in the sun and it comes into a plant. And so you realize that in the state where I was at a full darkness, god was working on me and I feel as if that I literally had to.
Speaker 5:Like, when Jay has been talked about, has been talked about control. Okay, when we think of control, I'm like that in terms of I do this, I do that. If I, if I study my class and study in a test, I get like a like you know, this was out of my control. I literally had to put my hands up, like my mom said. I asked her how she was doing it and she was just like God is in control. The same person that blue air, blue breath into him. Um, that's not me, he is in control. So for me, I was literally forced to put my hands up and say God, you are in control in the midst of my darkness. And, like I said to anyone out there that you may be going in your darkness, because when we think about grief, we only think about losing a person, but you could lose a job, you could be going through divorce and different things like that, and so, when I think about the dark place I was at, god was working on me and still working on me. And then, even when I look at, I posted something on TikTok talking about where you are is where, exactly where you need to be. I'm telling you that is true because I was away for 10 years living in America, and I just came back last year and I spent I was working on a job I wasn't. I felt like I shouldn't have been there. I'm gonna count in as well, but I was just doing like admin work, but I was seeing my brother every single day. We was working on his boots, we was grinding together and, to be honest, when I think back, because we all gonna have a time, our time is all gonna come not to scare anybody, but we're gonna have a time and I feel like that's why purpose is so important and understand your why and talking to God about your gifts and making sure you're using those things.
Speaker 5:In the midst of my darkness, when I found out, I was actually with my best friend who had went through this and lost her brother three years ago. She carried me and she picked me up her and another close friend of mine and so she knew what I needed, god knew what I needed and I was with the right place, with the right person at the right time. So when I think, when I love you too, when I think about navigating through grief, it is a journey because tomorrow and today they look totally different. I could be sitting there typing, I could be winning, winning an award or something, and immediately I think of my brother. And when it comes to my person, that was my person in those hours. He I'm and I were both entrepreneurs and if you look at my logo, my brother designed it.
Speaker 5:A lot of different things that I did we did together and we've been doing that since I was young, and so losing that person for me has been the most challenging, heartbreaking thing in my life. And four o'clock in the morning, you know he'll text me because we're all working and he'd be like how you doing? And I'll be like I'm stressed and he'd be like stressed about backwards is dessert, so go get some ice cream and then go back and work, and so when we think of those things that we think were little, those are big things and he made sure I learned to hold support and stuff like that. So, in the midst of my darkness, when I had to hold my hands up and put guard in control. I had to leave the island for situations. I had to just go and clear my my head. And I just remember just.
Speaker 5:I went to Oakwood Church and the pastor was preaching about just God's, just his miraculous, and how he just holds you and you can't hold yourself. And I remember saying you know what this period of my life, the things that Mark and I did together, it's not gonna end here, and I took made a conscious decision to make sure that my brother's death is not in vain. So, all of the hard work, all of the nights we stayed up, all of the porn that he did it to me, important to me, I just knew that I'm gonna do the same. And if you listen to his interviews he's always talking about I thought my purpose was football, but no, my purpose was to inspire other people, and I think that's what our parents have instilled in us. And so for me, when I'm navigating my life, what keeps me going is knowing that I had a brother who encouraged me, or brother that worked in me to remind me of my purpose, and a strong support system. So for me it's not the end, because it's every day. I guess every day is different, but I'm doing the best that I can, and when I went away I did a photo shoot.
Speaker 5:It was called better days, because when I do stuff for optimum, optimum is a family brand for me. It's not when you see different things I'm posting, it's because I'm probably struggling through it too, and that's how I started my brand. Because optimum body needs to extend to your best level. I changed the OP to a UP so that people can symbolize and see that I'm telling you to keep trying to extend upward, and if you are at rock bottom, the only other place you can go is to the top. And so for me, these are the things that are instilled in me when I'm struggling to keep going. And then my mama is there telling me all the time she's like Chelsea gather the roses and leave the dawns alone. And that's just what I do in my daily walk. They're trying to be entrepreneurial and just trying to make it through, because we're all going through stuff, right?
Speaker 1:and Tika. I know that you lost your brother. Yeah was definitely. Thank you so much for that, chelsea. Tika, I know you lost your brother as well and I know it was a little bit longer than last year, but how have you been dealing with that grief and not having your brother with you anymore?
Speaker 2:yeah, um, that was a, that was a, that was a time, that was a time and and you just remember it like it was yesterday. Really, I love to be in a place where I feel like things are happening. Choose me, and so when you talk about philanthropic work or making your name great because that's really what the result was is like this adnis girl is gonna make this name great, period, right, but, yeah, I mean many past, I mean somebody. Things that I don't feel like my family was able to really relish in was like the nerve of us to mourn a monster, right, that that's still maybe an inflammatory term for people who know that my brother was Prince Edmonds, right, who was he monster that raised them? This beautiful woman who raised me? To. If you were raised how we were raised and saw the abuse that we saw, how would you be? And to, to be there that night, because I was the only person only seeing at the time. And to see the person that you grew up with, playing fluffy with and he used to go he's a rough me up, so he's a rough me up, but to see that person they didn't a white sheet but then to feel like the fabric of Bermuda, felt that we shouldn't mourn because he was so disgusting and most people didn't even know him firsthand. It was as if my grief wasn't even warranted, and that made a beast out of me in a good way, because you know what Philanthropy chose me.
Speaker 2:So when I made my victim impact statement, I was still judged. When I gave contrition and love to the family of the person who murdered my brother, I was still judged. So my thing is oh, sisha just gave me judged. So then people talk about authenticity. Authenticity was attached to that. That was birthed in that moment. Authenticity, philanthropy, loving-owned people being transparent, being brazen, doing the thing.
Speaker 2:I can't help be that Right. But then also to see the gap in what I saw was Bermuda, even just in the world, because we're a microcosm of a macrocosm and saying you know, what this world needs is actually love. So if I didn't see it, I can't be pissed that people didn't see it or didn't provide it. I get to embody love. So when I walk in a room, I hope that people feel that that's right. So I think that was my journey. With that and I will leave with this, I get to make my name great. This Adniss girl gets to make that name great, I get to let my mom be sitting in the audience and she's not sure. Sometimes, like Tika, I can't believe and I'm like all of that. We talked about it when you show that's tapestry, but I'm one NBC or wherever I am in a Gombe cake, shandayne, in right, wippin' up when I'm wippin' up, and who I'm serving that Adniss girl that's who I am.
Speaker 2:I think it's just really making the name great and being unabashed. I'm never afraid to tell people that my brother was Prince Adniss, not afraid, right. And I think too for people who had a similar, you know a parallel story like this black young girl from Bermuda who people don't even know where it is, who had that board opsie with an abusive household, who has a dad who's one drugs and doesn't choose to be in her life. She gets to be glamorous and amazing and she gets to impact and she gets to live for life with you. So know that it's possible, so Yay.
Speaker 1:So first, thank you both so much for sharing that with us. I know that it's very fresh and not taken away any of that, so I genuinely appreciate you being very vulnerable with us with those scenes. I can't believe it, but I just got a time notification so, as we kind of wrap up with our last question, that will go from all ladies I don't know where everyone is, but we're going to tee up for the questions the Q&A pop portion of this so if you guys do have a question, there will be two floating mics that will come around, ok? So I guess, auntie, I'm going to start with you and then we'll just make all we're done. We always start, all right. So when we spoke about this and I'm out with you guys, one of the biggest things that I get feedback from on the podcast is the why right, your why, like, at the end of the day, you're all very successful women in your rights, but what is the why? What gets you up? What is the driver behind the excellence that is each of you?
Speaker 3:I think it probably gets back to my grandfather again Just leaving the world just a better place. I mean, I'm not a great person, but if I can affect, impact, change one person's life, just make their life better and that person can make someone else's life better, then we'll all be leaving the world a better place. I don't know who talked about love. I think everybody's talked about love. Love is so important, right? Love is easy. Love is free. We hate too much. We're too quick to have a negative word about someone else. Something else Love, love is just so important. Love, just helping your fellow men, just leaving the world a better place. If you're not making a difference in someone's life, if you're not helping someone, honestly, what are you doing? What are you doing? I just think we that's it, love, and just change someone's life, and it doesn't take a great person.
Speaker 1:Jeff Me.
Speaker 5:What's up.
Speaker 7:I thought you were going to say Jeff, OK, so my why? I've talked a lot about my family, and so then they are my why. But I want to be why I get up every morning. I've always been very, very aware that I was I've talked about this that I was put here for some reason. God didn't make me five tan loud you can hear me before you see me. He didn't make me like this for no reason.
Speaker 7:And so I intend and I'm saying this with passion because I mean it I get up every morning and I intend to have and get all that God's intended for me. I intend to live this life and I will bleed it out. I am going to be exhausted. When I die, I will just lay out Ready to go. I will have talked to all of the people I will have impacted. I want all that God has for me, and I believe that is great things. And so, while I do things very afraid, I do things very unsure. I do them because I am very, very self-assured that I was put here for a reason, and so that's why I do what I do, because I'm not leaving anything on the table. No crumbs will be left. I'm going to do and achieve and be the all that I was destined to be.
Speaker 1:I love that. Ok, take us.
Speaker 2:All right. So we had Cedar Hill Cedar.
Speaker 9:Hill we had a Cedar Hill right, cedar Hill, so I'm a point girl.
Speaker 1:And that's OK. I'm not saying spicy.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying spicy, I'm not saying it's not spicy, spicy.
Speaker 2:I'll take it. I'll take it. But the beautiful thing about having a board opsie in point is I was a tone boy probably wouldn't surprise anybody, but I was jumping off cliff and peak when the girls were stealing number one. I mean I didn't die, but I was like if you knew it was going to be a girl that ruled with you. It was like they called it a take now of Tuesdays and all, but back when I was, you know, we were just jumping and we were just enjoying it and so thrill at the expense of meeting.
Speaker 2:Your gift is always my way, mm. So my thing is it's one of the mantras that I just live by is like you know, the cave you fear to enter lies the treasure you seek, mm-hmm. So my thing is know what you seek before you came here. Our job is to forget, right, mm-hmm, in the process. But you came here for somebody's treasure, mm-hmm. So my thing is if the creator is writing that gift or that meal, whatever that is, for you, what does it look like to kind of release something, so that go of some fear to get it, you know. So for me it's, of course it's love, like Ms Mack said, you know, but I think it's like releasing the fair piece, releasing it so you can like in yoga I practice yoga often it's making space to move into new space, releasing to be able to receive. So for me it's like a little bit, like Jaya said, I'm leaving her tired.
Speaker 8:Mm-hmm Tired Like.
Speaker 2:I have no interest.
Speaker 2:One of the things that I think plagues us, just as people, is you know you die at 30. And when I say die, I mean you have people that walk around and talk about this one, two legs. They get in their car, they drive to work, they contribute nothing and they expect to be juiced about life Absolutely. And if you're not juiced about life, that's part of the issue, because that's the reason why service sometimes is annoying. You ask somebody for a glass of water and they're half in a, half in a like what's this? You agree?
Speaker 7:to be hurt, to give me water.
Speaker 2:I agree, I agree to come.
Speaker 7:You agree to give me water.
Speaker 2:But when you meet someone that's juiced like so I get married in April Blassen and I have this amazing man. But we have this designer who's designing our dresses. She showed it and I love people that are juiced because they make life better. Like she, the way that she sketched, I'm like you gotta give me African goodness. This is from Africa and I'm just like the way that you design these dresses. I feel your heartbeat in your portrait, yeah, and I can't help but be that person. So if I have to turn it down, then I probably just been being that environment, that part it's like time off or not at all.
Speaker 2:for me, sir, I'm jumping off cliff in this life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, tabika.
Speaker 4:So, outside of the natural reasons for family and all of those things, recently, I think, since being on your podcast and then since having had this promotion, what I've had a lot come to me was people needing help, right, people needing advice, people needing mentorship, people just needing someone to talk to. A lot of what I said on that, that, that part, that episode, resonated about. Like you know, my boss is like what you were describing and I don't really like it. What do I do? And it really gave me this kind of realization that this is what I'm supposed to be telling people, right. This is how I'm supposed to help people get through these periods in their life.
Speaker 4:I think one of the quotes I wrote on Instagram is I always want to be the senior that I needed as a junior, right, and so that is really. That is so, you know, strong within me, because I know now that through this journey, I have to slice a little piece of me and give it to 25 year olds who are trying to figure it out right At 25, I didn't know what I was going to do, where I was going to be, how I was going to get there, and it was those people who took that slice and gave it to me. That helped me to get where I am. So I think that you know, outside of my children and everything else, that's a big why for me to be here.
Speaker 5:So my wife stems from, like family upbringing. Growing up, you know, my parents always pushed us not pushed us, but they gave us the option to serve and they pushed service, service to God, service to your fellow man VI. Because why did I say that? Like I don't know, it just came to my head. I guess Bermuda Institute is stealing my hair. So they always pushed service and so some things just become innate, it just becomes a part of you.
Speaker 5:So even when you look at my mom, you always tell me also that my gifts are like my interpersonal interpersonal skills. Mic check I'm good, my interpersonal interpersonal skills. So when you shop with optimum body, it's good. So when you shop with optimum body, a lot of people come to buy clothes but you leave with a different experience and you leave motivated, you leave inspired, and that's because I'm not just selling clothes, I'm selling an experience. I'm, you know, offering people rooms to sit in, like I'm selling out of my house right now and people come, they sit on my couch for hours. They'll be there from like 10 to like four, like just sitting there talking about their problems and you know just me giving my advice and just having someone you can talk to. So when I think about my why is definitely for service. I know that might what my purpose is, and it's also not just about knowing who you are, but also knowing that knowing who's you are, and I think that's just. You know my purpose and my why why I keep going.
Speaker 1:All right, I think they're going to give you a hand out. But come on, max, and that's fine. So in the meantime I'm in, john, if you could just bring up the lights a little bit. If anyone has any questions, I'm actually going to log in. I'm actually going to log on to the slider quickly just to see if anyone has put any questions up, and so I think we have some mics if a cure is in the back with any mics. Anyone have any questions and a Q&A before we wrap for the evening? Okay, so question right here. Let's test it out on. That mic Is on.
Speaker 8:Hello, hello, there we go.
Speaker 5:I have a question, Even everyone.
Speaker 2:I have a question for Chelsea.
Speaker 1:What's something that you would tell your younger self? I know everyone else you know spoke to their daughters, but what would you tell your younger self?
Speaker 5:Thank you, caleb Burgess, my best friend of the like 12 years. Thank you. Thank you for being the person to stand up and ask me a question my younger self.
Speaker 5:I think I would just tell my younger self that there's nothing smooth sailing about life. I think a lot of times we think the amount of money that we make is going to solve some problems or whatever. But we're always going to have problems. There's always going to be something that you're battling, some trials, some tribulations, something being able to just reset, refocus and realign. It's okay to do that, even if you have to pivot. That's what I would tell my younger self that nothing is smooth sailing. I know that along my journey I've also because, being an entrepreneur, you're mainly like a problem solver there's just problems and you're just here to solve them. I get excited when I'm solving a problem, but basically that is what life is, and not being afraid and being fearless to tackle those things and knowing that you put your best for forward and you do your best and things will come. That's what I would tell my younger self.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Anyone else? I see Dr O'Bannon right here. Dr, put some respect, thank you.
Speaker 8:Good evening everyone. Okay, let me keep still. So, first and foremost, I just want to thank everyone for your authenticity and for your vulnerability this evening, because this is beautiful. I'm over here weeping, so I apologize if you see me afterwards and I look like I've been through some stuff. I don't know what mascara I put on this evening, so I'm sorry, yeah, and I talk a little extra, so sorry.
Speaker 8:I'm actually curious to know your thoughts.
Speaker 8:This can go to everyone, anyone, whoever, whatever works best, but I find that, not just in my experience, but in the conversations that I have with women all the time on this island and really people in general, but we're hustle her here.
Speaker 8:Yeah, bermuda is very interesting, that we're very relational. We're a very relational country and yet, especially when we're talking about our entrepreneurial spirit and also in our corporate world, where we often live in silos, I'm curious to know your thoughts on how we break down some of these silos. We're talking about passing ladders back, and I hear that most of us are trying to pass them back and trying to tap in the next people, whether it be the next generation or our partners on our side. But how do we break through these silos and really open it up so that, as women in particular, because we know what we know how sometimes we can't really be transparent with each other out of fear of a potential repercussion. But how can we potentially open up a little bit and expand so that we can say hey, sis, we're not in competition here. We both have gifts, we both show up individually in our own spaces with our own talents, even if we're in the same industry. So how can we all thrive together?
Speaker 1:Who wants to take that one?
Speaker 2:I would usually Beautifully packaged, yeah, absolutely. And then such an important, I think, topic to delve into. I always think the things that are I always say macrocosm, microcosm, but the larger things come from, of course, one source, and I think what could be maybe a few things that could be, the answer to it would be, I think, as women, if we work on completing ourselves as holes, it's easy to divide. So my thing is I always say I am no less beautiful because these ladies are strikingly gorgeous. If anything, the portrait is just ton up. So my thing is the courage. I think the equation is having the courage to say have the conversation, to say you know, I'm not competing with you, right? You know, I think you're gorgeous, right, it's the courage. But then the other thing is to actually be the hole, to then divide yourself. I think once those things are in place, I don't think these silos even have room really. Yeah, that's what comes to my mind.
Speaker 1:Jeff.
Speaker 7:Jeff, I fully and wholly agree. I was going to say, Sam, exactly what you said is what needs to happen. But there needs to be spaces created right In such a small community. There has to be intentional spaces created by the fearless right. There has to be spaces like this created and then you have to get a few loud mouths who aren't afraid, and now this will follow because they see that it's okay, you can be all that you want to be, and in fact, I want to help you get there. So I do a lot of what are you doing, what you want to do. We should have coffee. Let me help you get there.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say that's just being true for you there, Coffee let me know.
Speaker 7:Like I said, I already feel like I'm going to get where I want to get in this life.
Speaker 7:I want to bring everybody with you and so, but you have to create those spaces. Deshae and I are part of an association Acre maybe some of you know it. It's the Association for Corporational Equity. That's creating a space and a place. And then, within that space and the place, a few fearless come in and we start pointing and targeting you. I'm going to bring you with me, you here's the tips of Detroit, like, don't do that, do this. And so it takes a few, but then it's contagious because whoever I help and start talking to, they could copy exactly what I say and say it to their friend and then say it to the next person. And so in a boat, in a space, in an island like ours, we have to create safety and it's going to take a few to be courageous enough to create those spaces and then be contagious enough that it filled the stars.
Speaker 5:And I also want to say that I know for my entrepreneurial space as well. But you also have to be someone like whoever's trying to receive. You also have to be somebody that's trying to put in the work. Nothing is really just given. I feel like a lot of opportunities that came from me was from people who saw that I was actually working hard and putting in the work. I actually help a lot of entrepreneurs, but I I also I the ones that I really help and I'm not picking sides. But then I see that you've already been trying yourself, because that's another thing is just like we're in an island. But because I'm doing something, that does not mean that because I don't give you the whole recipe, that I'm against you. It's no like you need to put in that work yourself and then you know I don't mind setting the ladder back down, but we also have to talk about not being lazy and being able to work hard as well.
Speaker 3:Dr Sam, I think that in Bermuda, we have to work so hard, right? You know what? What we got? The highest cost of living ever in the whole universe, and so, honestly, we have to work really hard just to survive. So we've got our hair done, right, we've got our hair done, we're working, we're trying to provide for our families, you know, just trying to do what's right. So it gets difficult because sometimes we're doing this right and it's not because we're trying to keep other people out, it's because we're just trying to survive, right? I think we need to.
Speaker 3:Maybe how do I say this? We have been conditioned to mistrust others that look like us, right, and so while we're working and we're doing this, we need to open up and let others in and help others Also, not work so hard. We need to enjoy. We have a beautiful island here. If it wasn't for, if it wasn't for real, I would never be out on the water, and that's sad. That's sad, right, you know why am I not enjoying the water Like other people are enjoying my water? So, although we have to work hard yes, we have to work hard because we have to survive, we have to provide. I think we need to ease up a little bit and open up a little bit, and while we're opening up, let others in. Let them see what we're doing, assist others and break down some of those silos that were not truly put up by us. That's right.
Speaker 4:But I think what's refreshing to see, though, is so, when I connect with a lot of the children, younger people that I mentee, the younger generation are that they embody that. They want to bring everybody along, they want to show me what you're doing. I will pull you with me, and I love that, because that shares progress right. That means that we are taking, I think, our generation. It was a lot of what you just described, but it's so refreshing to see that the younger generation are really opening themselves up and wanting to bring people along the journey with them and share their experiences and break down those barriers, and so we have a lot to look forward to Okay, now I'm gonna go to the lady right here and then I'm gonna come to you.
Speaker 1:Chris, yeah, in the floor, yes, yes, good evening.
Speaker 9:I'm just okay, here we go. I'm just so inspired and in awe and really grateful for all of you. Thank you so much for the inspiration. I heard a lot of talk about being fearless, but as a leadership coach, I often see that human beings, you know, we're wired to be afraid, we're wired to be anxious, and so I just wanted to normalize that and then ask this question, which is what is the thing that you were really scared about? Your heart was racing, like mine is right now, has an introvert, and you chose to be courageous and you did it anyway. And what's your next scary thing that you're about to do? And do it anyway so that we can support you.
Speaker 1:So before we answer that, I'm mindful of time, so let me know the two women you wanna hear that from.
Speaker 9:Oh, okay, I definitely want to hear from Tika and gosh. I'm going to. I know I'm gonna ask Jazz, Tika and Jazz let's hear it it was about, there it is yeah.
Speaker 1:Say that again. Yeah, just yeah.
Speaker 2:It was too. It was too, it was too wrong.
Speaker 9:So what is the scariest thing that you've ever done, that you chose to do, that you were brave about, courageous about, and what is the thing that really scares you right now that you're holding yourself back to do? But it's your next big thing, so that we can support you there.
Speaker 7:So I'm not. I probably won't reveal my next big thing, but I'm scared every day. I literally am. I'm scared all the time. I'm scared every day of my job. I don't feel like I know what I'm doing, and then I do it, and I do it and I'm like look at me, let me just do the thing.
Speaker 7:I'm always afraid and I put myself in scary situations. I catapult, I go ahead before I think I'm qualified. So I actually can't pin down a point because I'm constantly doing really scary things and now it's just a part of my DNA. I just go ahead, so, yeah, and the next thing I do is gonna be really scary and I'll call you, because you know, fear and action, they can happen at the same time and they should, right, and so I don't think my action is ever gonna be stopped because of my fear. Also, when you get and let's be careful with this when you do fearful things and you see the result, you're like, yeah, dopamine, all right, let's do that again. That worked out right. And so, yeah, I make it up, it's a practice. So, yeah, I'm always I really am always afraid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love what you said about fear and the movement, because I guess my definition of fear is not feeling the rush of blood on your face and whatever people feel, like reapplying deodorant, like how have you got afraid, but I think it's acknowledging it, moving through it and still doing the thing. Fear doesn't mean you don't do the thing. Fear just means you feel it and you do it anyway. So in my practice I try my best to not nestle in what we call analysis paralysis. I don't know your therapist, I don't even want to feel like I'm telling you what your job is. So I'm trying my best to meet you where you're at. But the analysis paralysis thing I try to release that as much as possible.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's just because we talked about it, but I think again, the life stuff for me is I don't think it's that scary, like you know, afraid to like, maybe put out a recipe and maybe it doesn't work or you know but the life stuff again, I'm a point girl, I'm jumping off, peak my whole life, right, but for me I think it was. I honestly think, when I saw my brother in the when you see him before, what is it in the, in the. I was gonna say nursing home Jesus in the viewing. In the viewing because the daft stuff is the woo-woo stuff that no one's actually had. If anyone's had experience with daft he wouldn't be here, right? So I think it was just my heart was pacing thinking about how I would process it, what he would look like, how that would work, and I think that was the scariest thing that I did so far in life form.
Speaker 1:I think she had. Did you have anything coming up? We wanted to, oh, you wanted to support you on. Was the second wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think we talked about it on the show. Yeah, something else, you know, yeah, something else, we talked about it on the show. You know I've been. You know, the first time I think I mentioned it was on the show. It's like I wanna hit the world stage, the world is mine. Like I wanna be able to hit that and you know, not have to justify my why and not feel like you know, we create a hit every other place if the magic's 60 sides this island and this lady. Like I wanna hit the global stage.
Speaker 1:We're claiming it. We claim Chelsea's score and she's got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, so we have. I'm sorry, maxi, where Kara? Where am I? Oh, karsten, here we go. Hey, so my question's for you. Deshae, we've seen the first 50 and the culmination of that tonight. What's your dream for the next 50?
Speaker 7:look like that's a good question.
Speaker 1:You're telling an excellent question, guys, not about me, okay, yes, it is.
Speaker 1:For me, the podcast is morphed into telling these amazing stories, right, like initially I just wanted to kind of interview dope women that I had in my life, and it's really morphed into telling stories of women, different things that are very taboo to talk about, things, but also success stories. I think a lot of times as women we waddle in this woe is me and I had to struggle to get to the other side, right, and I think sometimes it's okay, not, sometimes it is okay to show that one. There is another side and then the other part of that is getting us how women get to that other side. So, yes, you know the upbringings and you know your whys and all that type of stuff are important. But I wanna delve deeper into your story, right, and so the next 50, you know we're gonna have to ask Jesus about it.
Speaker 1:But Honestly, I've thought about who I'm gonna have on next and I have some pretty big goals and targets for that. I want Hostelher to continue to grow locally. I think it's been great. I think I could do more and then, with Alameda being on the podcast, it's been the international reach has been quite huge this past week, so incredibly overwhelmed but grateful.
Speaker 1:But I definitely wanna see some more international guests come on the podcast, for sure, and then, being a space that you know where, I'm using the podcast to put the amazing women that have been on the podcast and will be on the podcast on that international stage from this international guest, hey, nice, nice, and I think yeah, so this will be our last question who is my dad in the back? Someone said my dad had a question. Yeah, and then just also, you know, for any of the men in the room, I get asked constantly when is a man going to be on the podcast? Okay, so first things first. Yes, it's coming, and the first man that will be on my podcast will be my dad for all this day. So you heard it here for me. All right, dad, go ahead.
Speaker 6:Travis is telling me, don't actually come First. Let me say learn a way. It's been a group of guys here that we've been going back was in Forts, and we are literally speechless. I, too, had a little water in my eye, a little onion cut, but I mean, it literally has blown my mind to listen to these stories and, ladies, you have been amazing.
Speaker 6:I see Power Girl right here, and so I know that there's a lot of work to be done, and on the other side, we have so many individuals that don't have these powerful stories. I'm with the Coalition for Protection of Children and we just see so much Right, and I wanna celebrate you, and I do celebrate you, but how do we deal with what we're seeing in this country? How are we dealing with the young ladies that do not have these mentorships, that are coming from these crazy spaces that we're seeing manifest itself in so many different ways? I just want, for a few seconds, for us to have a conversation around those people that we don't talk about, but we have in our families, we have in our schools, we have in our world and we just move around like they just don't exist.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen, my father, Duane Keynes, he's the heavy hitter. I guess we'll start with Auntie. Yeah, come on.
Speaker 3:Come on, come on. Yes, start with Auntie.
Speaker 1:Who ever?
Speaker 3:wants to go? Who ever wants to go? That's a good question, Duane, and it doesn't start with just one person. It starts with us all. It starts with the man in the mirror. Everybody wants to say this person's responsible, that person's responsible. Everybody says the government's responsible for everything. Wherever you live, the government's responsible for everything. Right, not just Bermuda. But it starts in the home, and then it's the home, it's the school, it's the workplace, it's the church, it's the sports club. We all have to take a stand, we all have to do better, and I hate to say it because this is definitely shown in my age. I think we need to get back to some old-time standards. Right, our standards are slipping, and now you can see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think a few things. Ms Maxine say it, I mean, I think when you were talking I just remember your posture was like this when you were talking about I think we were talking about why we can't assist other people, and I think it really does tie into Ms Keynes's question. But I do agree with you that I think some of the old school stuff gets to come back. But I think part of that generation before us was all about survival, and I think this is exactly what you explain is that if I'm surviving, I can't even look to my left to figure out who is not being observed and who is not being acknowledged. And that's why I always feel like the beautiful thing is that we're in a time, more than ever, of healing. People are aware that healing is a priority. People in the companies who are doing big things. They have regular sessions with the therapist because if you cannot be who and if you cannot come out of fight-and-flight, if you're in fight-and-flight you're looking at where's the Nats dega, you're not looking at how to help jazz or whatever it is. So I think, the more that we can come into that space of again, you're working private, showing up in public, being able to say that I'm not surviving. You ask someone on a regular basis are you doing? I can't complain. Ah, that's probably not where we wanna be right, like we wanna complain so we can get it right, or we need to get in the gym, or what we need to do, cause complaining sometimes allows the like, the laundry, to be aired out, right, but it says, not complaining, I ain't getting a, say cause it's not gonna change. Yeah, I need you to take with it's this ideation where we're outsourced responsibility. I learned that somewhere we can't outsource responsibility outsource but I'll get it the next time. It's like in that space of healing we're able to acknowledge and say, oh my gosh, I just stepped over someone's leg and I just crushed the ankle Like I need to make sure.
Speaker 2:Right Back to Mr Keynes' question you know I get to be in a space of actually processing feelings. I know sometimes, even with the earl school, I know that, at least with my nana, feelings was not even. They weren't even valid, weren't even valid. You feel what, put Vaseline on it and go on right, it was Vaseline. All of what we feel and how we process, and the children now that talk about it, and it's a beautiful space to be in, and that's why I think it's a bit of tit and tat. It's a bit of bringing the earl school back but also recognizing that we're in a time now more of healing than in any time ever and that we can use that to our advantage to actually come out of fight and flight and to come into feeling and rest and rest and relax, to actually see what's happening around us. Yeah, APPLAUSE.
Speaker 1:Anyone else want to address my dad's question?
Speaker 4:So I sit on the board of the Coalition for the Protection of Children with your dad. We were closer together with one dad, yeah, laughter, but, you know, just reflecting on this conversation. So, to start back with our grandparents, they were a lot closer to this struggle, right. And so, as we now, you know, are professionals we, you know, are all leaders in our respective fields we tend to get a little farther away from this struggle, right, and this, you know, society, where things are not as simple as they can be for us, right, and I'm very aware of the fact that we are very blessed, we are very fortunate to be where we are.
Speaker 4:We have access to things education, our children have access to education that, you know, some will never be able to have. So it's important that we, you know, for our children, right, that we keep them grounded in how blessed they really are and that they now need to pay that forward, because everyone doesn't have the same opportunities as you, right? And so it's really, really important that you know the only way we're going to be able to keep focused on those issues that others are going through is if we keep focused on that in our own households, right, and make sure that we're aware of it, that we're charitably, you know, giving, making ourselves available for those initiatives and those types of things so that we can make a difference in the community. I think that's really important.
Speaker 5:I would just say that it will start from you too.
Speaker 5:Sometimes, like for me, I've been living, I was living in America for a long time and it's beautiful when I come back because what I do is I sometimes even, like in my entrepreneurial journey, I realize sometimes the things that we think we need, we don't and we have things right in our fingertips. So for me, I know that this generation is, you know, filled with like it's a social media era. So what I do and how I try to give back and like I'm back now, so I could probably do more, but I've used my platform more than ever to just give out free game, free knowledge, and so I've had a lot of young entrepreneurs or young people just trying to figure out like what is this? I can do this too, and then just open that for dialogue because it's a social media, and then they tell their friends and then it's all of a message in you, or you see them in town and they want to talk and connect. So sometimes they think, like we just use what we have to try to make a difference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually also want to add to that. I think we have the opportunity to and I'm going back to that word advocacy, right, sometimes there's a lot of people in our lives that are put in environments that they're not ready for. Right To my dad's point, around there's just a lot in this country that goes on, but we don't talk about things that we don't say. And then sometimes these younger people come into these environments, especially professional environments, and they're not actually not sure what to do right, or they don't know how to act, or they don't know the correct things to say, or their accent is too raw, or whatever that may or may not look like.
Speaker 1:And what I think we have to then do is one advocate for these people, for the young ones that are coming up. Also, give them grace. A lot of people need a grace right. And that's second.
Speaker 1:Yes, working hard is important and, yes, being smart and having your education, all those things are important, but everyone's going to make a mistake and I think sometimes we have this oh, shut it off, and we're not going to give that person the chance again. And so I think having that grace and giving that part telling them where they went wrong, I think one of the best things I learned growing up I was not growing up, but was in when I had my first job and I made a rookie error and you know the dragging through the curls that I got in that with that error I will never forget it right, but that was an advocacy in the meeting covering me number one, but then letting me know what I did wrong so I never did it again. I think that's key. And then, secondly, a lot of times we give to charitable organizations but we're not really in the thick of what those organizations are doing right, Exactly.
Speaker 1:So I think giving back to these charities is definitely important, but also volunteering of your times. Your times absolutely so incredibly important and giving not just okay, great, we want to take a photo and let's put it up on the road because that let everybody see that we donated and we did X, y and Z. But those children that were a part of that charity, those elders that needed that support financially, they also want you to come and talk to them.
Speaker 1:They also want you to be there for them. So I think that part of going back into our communities like we all are great, we all doing amazing things, but going into those communities that some of us came from, you know what I mean it's, I think, more valuable than sometimes those financial contracts.
Speaker 8:Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Absolutely All right, guys. So we're a little over, but first of all, thank you, ladies. So much for your time tonight. Thank you, thank you, and thank you all of you for coming this evening. I genuinely, genuinely, genuinely appreciate it. My nerves are settled, so, finally, right. So I'm very grateful for everyone who's here this evening and, before I just sign off for the live recording, all of my previous guests that have been on the podcast before. If you guys could just come on stage after this, I want to get a photo with everyone, and then my family as well. You guys who just say I just want to get a photo of you guys too. So thank you everyone who was here this evening. I really appreciate you. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. All right guys. So you have joined me for the 50th episode of Hustle Heart Podcast and I'm incredibly full. I'm very thankful. Thank you for spending some time with me today and, as always, thank you for watching Hustle Heart Podcast. Yeah, yay, yeah, yay, yay, yay, thank you 286.
