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The Other Side of Potential
Over time, the conversations we choose to have begin to reflect what matters most.
If you’ve been part of this podcast, you’ve heard me speak about human development, systems thinking, and the ways we make meaning of our lives and work. That work continues—and remains at the core of my coaching and professional practice.
What has changed is the space where I am choosing to have a different kind of conversation.
After the death of my son, Michael, I felt called to create a more personal place—one that speaks directly to the experience of loss, and to the questions that emerge when life no longer looks the way it once did.
That space is now Beyond the Loss.
This podcast is for parents who have lost a child, and for those who support them. It is not about fixing grief or finding closure, but about understanding how we continue to live, to make meaning, and to become—after loss.
If you are looking for my current podcast,
you will now find me there.
I invite you to join me on Beyond the Loss.
You are welcome.
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The Other Side of Potential
Episode 230: Creating a New Culture for Humankind with Sophie McLean
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We all tell ourselves stories to get us through life’s toughest moments, to ensure that we don’t let other people down, and to hold up our egos. But as Sophie McLean explains in today’s episode, no matter how ingrained those stories have become, we have the power to deconstruct our ego and tap into the “full range of being” that is available to us.
Sophie has been shot at, shipwrecked, and widowed. She has been a helicopter pilot, a designer, a relief worker, a war refugee, and a CEO. Now, as a Wisdom Teacher, she has dedicated her life to the creation of a new culture for humankind; one that is based on listening to the soul.
During our conversation, Sophie candidly shares some of the experiences that have shaped her, unpacks the difference between pain and suffering, and explains why, if you are feeling dissatisfied with your life, you are in the perfect position for a transformational breakthrough.
What you’ll learn about in this episode:
- The epiphany that Sophie had at the age of 12.
- What Sophie learned from her experience as a war refugee.
- The curiosity that has defined Sophie’s life.
- The traumatic event that Sophie went through at age 28, and what she learned about grief in the aftermath.
- Exploring the difference between pain and suffering.
- Understanding the concept of non-duality.
- Sophie’s definition of being a spiritual being.
- Reasons for the crisis that the world is currently in the midst of.
- What it looks like to embark on a process of ego deconstruction.
- How a person’s character is formed.
- Why so many people experience midlife dissatisfaction, and why this is such an important stage of life.
Transcript: Here
Additional Resources:
Sophie McLean: https://www.sophiemclean.com/
Sophie McLean on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiemcmclean/
Sophie McLean on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/smc.mclean/
The Elegance of Simplicity: https://www.amazon.com/Elegance-Simplicity-Teachers-Journey-Awareness/
Sharon Spano:
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