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forty three"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":931.0,"endTime":934.25,"body":"thistle sifters frantically sifted"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":934.25,"endTime":938.33,"body":"forty seven thorny thistles,"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":934.25,"endTime":938.33,"body":"which is a, another fricative one."},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":938.48,"endTime":939.8,"body":"You're showing off now."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":939.89,"endTime":941.6,"body":"I did notice that"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":939.89,"endTime":941.6,"body":"I didn't actually read the"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":941.6,"endTime":942.62,"body":"second half of all of them."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":942.625,"endTime":943.65,"body":"The second half's more difficult."},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":943.67,"endTime":945.47,"body":"Cause they do,"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":943.67,"endTime":945.47,"body":"they do get 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it."},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":981.688,"endTime":983.418,"body":"When do you arrive on the vowel?"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":983.638,"endTime":986.578,"body":"Anytime you elongate a"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":983.638,"endTime":986.578,"body":"consonant, if you want to stay in"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":986.583,"endTime":991.018,"body":"tempo, the next vowel has to come  on"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":986.583,"endTime":991.018,"body":"the beat, which means you elongate"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":991.318,"endTime":993.748,"body":"backwards into the previous note."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":994.078,"endTime":996.178,"body":"And that's a really"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":994.078,"endTime":996.178,"body":"important thing to know."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":997.423,"endTime":1000.453,"body":"The first time you do it, it's"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":997.423,"endTime":1000.453,"body":"going to feel like you are"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1000.453,"endTime":1001.893,"body":"interrupting all sorts of things."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1001.953,"endTime":1006.733,"body":"Mm-hmm , but the moment you get used"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1001.953,"endTime":1006.733,"body":"to it, it becomes a phenomenally"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1006.738,"endTime":1011.253,"body":"good way of getting your words across"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1006.738,"endTime":1011.253,"body":"without you working any harder at all."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1011.313,"endTime":1015.993,"body":"In fact, you work slightly less hard"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1011.313,"endTime":1015.993,"body":"and then you do, um, you do tend"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1015.998,"endTime":1017.373,"body":"to take it into real life as well."},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1018.064,"endTime":1022.174,"body":"Um, so we would love to know"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1018.064,"endTime":1022.174,"body":"what consonant exercises, what kind of"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1022.174,"endTime":1027.934,"body":"tongue twisters or, or, you know, routines"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1022.174,"endTime":1027.934,"body":"you use with your students, um, either"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1027.934,"endTime":1032.564,"body":"as a speaker or singer or things that you"},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1027.934,"endTime":1032.564,"body":"use as a warmup that you find effective."},{"speaker":"Gillyanne","startTime":1032.769,"endTime":1033.519,"body":"Let us know."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1033.619,"endTime":1034.249,"body":"Thank you very much."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1034.249,"endTime":1035.359,"body":"We'll see you next time."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1035.669,"endTime":1036.289,"body":"Bye!"},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1049.684,"endTime":1053.044,"body":"This is a voice, a podcast with Dr."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1053.049,"endTime":1055.169,"body":"Gillyanne Kayes and Jeremy Fisher."},{"speaker":"Jeremy","startTime":1055.599,"endTime":1057.699,"body":"This is a voice."}]}