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#252 Brutal Consistency: Fitness, Faith and Showing Up
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Guests:
Liz Draven Hope @lizzzliftsss
Sebastian Pierce @seabasslift_
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Warren Biesiadecki @warrenbies50
Alex Eubank @alex_eubank15
In this episode of The Scott Townsend Show, I sit down with Liz Draven Hope and Sebastian Pierce for an honest conversation about fitness, discipline, and what it really means to put yourself out there publicly. We talk about how working out becomes more than just physical transformation—it turns into confidence, accountability, mental health, and even leadership.
We dive into why they decided to start documenting their fitness journeys on Instagram and TikTok, the vulnerability that comes with posting online, and how social media can either motivate you or make you second-guess yourself. We talk about gym routines, dirty bulks, meal struggles, rest days, hot yoga, balancing school and work, and how hard it can be to simply stay consistent.
We also get into the deeper reasons behind getting healthier—breaking family cycles, managing stress and anxiety, improving mental health, and learning how to keep promises to yourself. Faith plays a big role in the conversation too, as we discuss discipline, reading the Bible, being intentional with your time, and what I like to call “brutal consistency.”
This episode is really about becoming the kind of person who shows up—even when it’s hard. Because success isn’t always about getting in perfect shape. Sometimes it’s just about doing what you said you were going to do.
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Welcome, Guests, And The Topic
SPEAKER_00Welcome to the Scott Townsend Show, brought to you by Pizoman Productions.
SPEAKER_02Everybody, welcome back to the Scott Townsend Show. Thanks for tuning in, listening in. We got a great show today. I have some a couple of folks that uh I know very well, good friends of mine. And we're talking about we're gonna be talking about fitness, Instagram, and putting yourself out there as an influencer, as a person who's trying to not only motivate themselves, but motivate those who are looking and watching, listening. So welcome to the show, Liz Draven Hope and Sebastian Pierce. Man, what's going on?
SPEAKER_03Thank you for having us.
SPEAKER_02Hey, you bet. Liz has been Liz and I've been talking about uh uh working out, and then I saw your sea bass Instagram page. Uh it's been a while since I I've uh spoken to you, and I saw that. I was like, first, wow, who is that? Who is sea bass? And then I asked uh Liz, I was like, so who's a sea bass guy? She goes, Sebastian. I was like, you're kidding me. The transformation since a year ago, I don't know how long it's been since we've seen each other. So I don't know, within the year. Um, pretty amazing. And uh so I just wanted uh thanks for guy, thanks to you guys for and then and then Liz has started her own Instagram page, and uh she's doing well with that, and so I thought, you know what, let's get these two together and let's just talk about it. So first question out of the bat is uh, what'd you have for breakfast this morning, Sebastian?
SPEAKER_03Uh it was actually besides the drinks and stuff, it was actually kind of healthy. I had a couple pieces of sausage, so and like I have to eat from the calf, so I can't go out and like make my own like protein-based food. So like living the college life, it's kind of like it kind of sucks when you're on a bulk, but you can eat whatever you want. But I had like cheesy eggs, biscuits, uh some sausage, sweet tea, and a cook zero. So yeah, it's yeah, it's a dirty bulk, but it's something.
SPEAKER_02Liz, how about you?
SPEAKER_01Three fried eggs this morning.
SPEAKER_02All right, first question what made you decide to start documenting your fitness journey publicly instead of keeping it private.
Breakfast And Posting Accountability
SPEAKER_03Um, I mean, I got a lot of people that were like telling me, because I have a friend who's his name is Warren Baisadeki. Uh I met him in high school and he started to document his. And uh I wasn't able to take my own videos and stuff, and so I would use his tripod, and he was like, bro, you should really start posting. Like you could get a lot of attention, and like you could blow up from this. I'm like, you know what, I'll think about it. And then I ended up getting my own tripod in like December, and I was like, you know what? Let's try it out. Went ahead, posted a video, ended up getting some likes and comments, and I'm like, dang. And then, like, also with posting, like, you end up getting some sort of accountability from it. Like, you had you like if you post daily, you get like a I gotta post this or whatever. So you're able to get accountability from it, but you're also able to hear like feedback from other people instead of just your own feedback in your head.
SPEAKER_02What do you Draven?
SPEAKER_01I I just think it's really fun. I've always posted on TikTok. I don't I have a gym TikTok, but I also have just like a normal TikTok. And I've always found posting fun, but I used to care a lot about what people thought when I posted. But now I don't know. Now that I'm doing it, it's not as scary as I thought it would be. I'm also in this like group chat with a whole bunch of other girls that go to the gym and work out and stuff, and they have their own Instagrams, and it was just kind of inspiring. So I was like, I might as well just do it too. And I'm I'm still a little nervous sometimes, but because I don't like to record myself in public. That's the problem. I don't like doing that. But I just think it's fun and hopefully I can be like inspiring to somebody else.
SPEAKER_02So was there a specific moment or turning point that pushed you to begin focusing seriously on your health?
SPEAKER_03For me, I came up like I grew up with parents that smoked cigarettes and like didn't look really live the healthiest lifestyle, and I was just kind of surrounded by that. And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna be that change, I'm gonna be the person that you know sets the sets my family tree apart from that. I started playing football in my junior year of high school, and then when I got through that season, I realized like I'm really skinny, like I gotta get bigger for this, like if I want to be elite, I have to get bigger. And you know, just focusing on meals and uh working out and stuff, like it's just at first you don't really think of it as you know, benefiting yourself in health wise, you really just like for me, I I've always focused on like more of the bodybuilding type stuff instead of just focusing on health. So, but if you really look into it, you do realize like,
Turning Points And Mental Health
SPEAKER_03yeah, I am actually benefiting my health because like stress levels drop, your blood pressure and stuff regulates, and it's just you know, regular working out helps you long term, and you don't even realize it.
SPEAKER_02It's funny you mentioned anxiety and stress because it seems like there's a lot of people today that are really stressed out. Seems like more people today than I can ever remember. Everyone seems to be dealing with stress and anxiety. And this exercise, I was wondering, uh it's that's gotta be a nice release, uh, a natural release from stress and anxiety. It's gotta be a huge benefit.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, for sure. Even even in your stressful days, you're like, bro, all for me, like when I have really bad or hard days, the only thing I can think about is going to the gym that day. Because I know like that's the one time I can be like by myself where I can work on myself and you know, just make my bed my day better.
SPEAKER_01Um, so I mean, kind of like Sebastian, I grew up with parents that smoked, my family's alcoholics, whatever. And obviously don't want to be that kind of person, but I also didn't take working out in that kind of perspective. So I started working out more for my mental health than I did for my actual health, which it benefits both. But like whenever I started, it was more for my mental health because I was going through a really hard time with some stuff like a few years ago. But whenever I started working out, I went with my brother because he's the one that's really like into all the health stuff and all that uh jazz. But yeah, so I did it more for my mental health and I fell in love with it. So yeah.
SPEAKER_02What is your what is your current um fitness routine actually look like day-to-day workouts, nutrition, and recovery?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so usually I mean it really depends on when I'm working, but like with resting, I think it's really important. Like today or yesterday was my rest day for the gym. I didn't go today because me and my brother have to go at different times today, but I just didn't go because I was my body was extremely tired and I was like, I'm just I'm gonna take today and just like kind of rest. So I'm not over exerting my body. Right. Stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02So it seems to me rest is a huge, uh, huge deal that's overlooked.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then I've been going to that hot Pilates hot yoga. I think that's really fun. Hot yoga is really good for stretching and sweating.
SPEAKER_02That's not like fun. But I'm sure that it is. I love it.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02What happened to you, Sebastian?
Training Plans, Rest, And Faith
SPEAKER_02Thanks. Uh welcome back. Uh, it looks like you had a little trouble there for a second. What uh what does your current fitness routine actually look like day to day? Are you do you go Monday, Wednesday, Friday, or Saturday, Tuesday, Thursday? What's you know, what when's your rest day and all that stuff?
SPEAKER_03My rest days are normally Sundays. Like I train basically six days a week and then rest on Sundays. Just kind of and like I'm trying to take my faith a little bit more serious. So like on Sundays I just kind of rest and like take that presence with God. Um but on my leg days I go a little bit lighter. But um I also have like injuries and stuff, so I I do have to cause myself to go lighter and kind of take that rest on those days. But it's pretty intense training, and then just that one day of rest. It I can take a toll, but doing like separate, like going chest, back, and then legs, you have those two days in between training your shoulders to rest your shoulders. So in in that six days, do you get enough rest to to be able to perform as much as you need to in the next your next workout?
SPEAKER_02I I I have become very intentional in in that seventh day rest thing, you know. Used to several years ago. I mean, uh right now my schedule's kind of erratic, so it's kind of hard to you know hit that every seventh day. But um I'm off I was off yesterday, first time this week, and I didn't do anything yesterday. When I say I didn't do anything, I didn't do anything, and it was great. Started to feel guilty about it for a little bit, you know, but I thought, you know what, it's just it's just one day out of the week, and uh my Christian faith kind of points doesn't kind of point to it, it points to it and says that you know we should do that. So okay, I think he knows more than I do about this kind of stuff, so I'll I guess I'll dial in, you know. Dial it in. But you know, there's people out there who who work uh five days a week, Saturday and Sunday off, or you know, so you could take Sunday Sunday off, or they have an erratic schedule like mine, so you just have to make it work, you know, whatever you know, the next your next opportunity, take it, you know what I mean. Just be intentional about it. So what's been the hardest part so far?
SPEAKER_03Scheduling, like easily it's gotta be the scheduling, because I mean, part-time job and full-time in school, like it's just so hard to be able to balance everything, like being able to get schoolwork done, go to the gym, and go to work. Going to work is already set, and going to classes is already set. You gotta find the time to be able to do your homework and take that time to be able to be like, Man, I don't think I'm gonna be able to go to the gym today. And then like, yeah, it sucks, it sucks in that moment, but you gotta you gotta start thinking, hey, you know, it's God's work, it's God's will, you gotta you gotta take that first day.
SPEAKER_02So yeah. Um, what's been the hardest part so far? Getting started, staying consistent, or being vulnerable online?
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna
Consistency Online Without Burnout
SPEAKER_01say staying consistent. And it's not even saying consistent with like working out because okay, so somebody's laughing at me. Okay, um, so yes, I wasn't very consistent at going to the gym, you know, a while ago, and we know who made fun of me for that. But I'm doing a lot better now about stay consistent, but it's also like now that I have like an Instagram and a TikTok, it's staying consistent in posting. It's not even just working out, it's posting online and stuff like that. Because one like tomorrow I'm gonna be like, I don't really want to post, and then I'm just never gonna post again. So that's how I I say just stay consistent.
SPEAKER_02Do you say do you uh staying consistent? And do you use it as an accountability? Instagram is kind of like an accountability, like I've got to do it. People are not necessarily counting on me, but you know, it's also a little build of vulnerability, too, because you know I've said I'm gonna do this and and then I don't do it, and you know, that stinks. So, you know, you kind of put a little bit of pressure on yourself to make yourself stay disciplined and consistent. And both of you are good influencers. You know, you I I know that you both want to be a good influence in your sphere of influence.
SPEAKER_03I think another thing, I think another thing is like being vulnerable, like especially on my Instagram page, like I try to make it known that I am a Christian, I'm trying to follow that. And I mean in this world today, like it's kind of it's kind of hard to come out as a Christian because you don't know what you don't know what other people are gonna say. So I think that's another another aspect that's kind of hard to be or vulnerable about on social media.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And it's also like I made like I just made an Instagram page, and so now I feel obligated to to do that. To go like I've got to go to the gym so I can get some kind of clip to post on Instagram. It doesn't even have to be like the whole workout, it'd just be one one thing that you do, and then you know, you're good.
SPEAKER_03But I mean, yeah, I felt that too when I first started mine. Um and like honestly, I kind of went downhill when I first started it because I always felt like I had to film my sets, but I wouldn't care about how my sets looked, I'd care about how the camera looked. You know, I'd end up suffering because my workouts weren't working right.
SPEAKER_04Right.
SPEAKER_03But then you have to find that like being able to look at it in like I think my last post was four days ago. You can take breaks in between posting, that's okay. Like, even even like top influencers like Alex Eubanks and uh Hadi Abdel, all of them take breaks in between their posts, they don't post every single day.
SPEAKER_02As far as posting scheduling-wise, where's your sweet spot? Is it it's not every day, is it every other day? Is it once a week or once every two weeks? What do you what what do you try to hit?
SPEAKER_03I think at least once a week. I mean, there was a couple, there was a couple weeks where I didn't post, but you know, I have my own personal issues going on, so I have to deal with that first before I could worry about like what I'm posting on the internet. So once I figured that all out, I was able to be like, yeah, I gotta set like at least once a week. It doesn't matter what day, but at least a week.
SPEAKER_02How about you driving?
SPEAKER_01I guess I'll say maybe like every few days a week. I mean, I posted like three times on my Instagram, I haven't posted the last two days, which I'm trying not to feel guilty about. I mean, obviously that's not gonna I'm not perfect, so I can't post every day.
SPEAKER_02Right. So have you noticed any mental or emotional changes since beginning this journey, not just physical ones?
SPEAKER_01I would say my mental health is a lot better working out because like Sebastian said, if I'm having a really hard day working and it's just like a really crazy day, I'm like, well, whenever I get off, I'm going to the gym. Like that's the only thing that I can look forward to. And so I think that's really helped my mental health a lot. But sometimes like I do get mad in the gym. I feel like that's a pretty I don't know, like whenever you're like trying to do a PR, like you're hitting a PR, and then you don't hit your PR, and then you're mad for the rest of the day.
SPEAKER_02But oh, absolutely. What'd you Sebastian? PR or ER?
SPEAKER_03Um with my fitness journey before I even started Instagram, my mental health like skyrocketed because like I started gaining confidence when I started football in high school, but I didn't really have as much confidence in myself because I knew I was a lot skinnier than most kids. Like I knew I wasn't as strong as most kids on the football team. So uh bro, I gotta, I just gotta get in the gym. Yeah, started lifting and confidence skyrocketed. It's just it's insane what you can gain from the gym, and people don't even understand like the mental and even um like mental and emotional ways you can just better yourself in the gym.
SPEAKER_02When you hit post for the first time, what fear did you have to overcome?
SPEAKER_01Probably like letting other people see me in that kind of way, if that makes sense.
SPEAKER_02What kind of way is that?
SPEAKER_01I I can be pretty insecure with stuff like that. So it's like I made this new Instagram page, but like what if all of my the people that I went to high school with and that I grew up with see it. That's kind of what I would say. Yeah, of course I want people to see it. But I think it's just kind of like a it's always been a fear of mine posting no matter what it is. It's something that you have to get over, especially if you want to be consistently posting, like people everywhere are gonna see it.
SPEAKER_02Do you see your accounts, your Instagram accounts, as a fitness page or as a leadership page in disguise?
SPEAKER_03That's a great question.
SPEAKER_01Uh I would say right now, obviously, starting it's a fitness page, but yeah, you don't know the people that are gonna start following you, how they feel about your page. There's gonna be people that are gonna be inspired by your page, and then that's why you're you're gonna want to keep posting. So right now it's like a fitness page, but I think it could turn into like a a leadership in disguise because like I want to be able to inspire people to you know break out of their shell and go do something for them.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, and that makes I mean, like especially for me and Liz, we don't have accounts that have thousands and thousands of followers, so we don't have everybody looking in, and again, I'll use examples Alex Eubank, he's got millions of followers, he's able to reach out to those people, or like when he posts, it's kind of like a leadership in disguise. Like people are going to follow what he's doing because I mean he looks great, he's successful, so people are going to look into it and be like, well, if I do what he's doing, maybe I'll end up like that.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Or in some sort of successful way. And I mean, yeah, for right now, since we do have smaller accounts with less following, it is kind of like just a fitness page. But we do, like, especially for me, I don't know about Liz, but I do want to end up like making it into a leadership in disguise. Yeah. I want to be able to lead people into making their lives better and better in themselves.
SPEAKER_01I agree with that.
SPEAKER_02Is there a deeper reason you want to get healthier, something that has nothing to do with appearance?
SPEAKER_01I mean, yeah, I feel like overall you would want to be healthier, you know, working out. But me personally, I want to fix my diet. Because I don't I don't eat very well. I did I've been trying to fix my diet for the last few weeks, but I don't eat enough. That's my problem, is that I don't eat enough calories in a day, even though like I am putting myself in a calorie deficit right now. Like I still need to at least reach that amount of calories I've set myself for every day, but I can't I just for some reason I cannot get myself to eat enough. So I really have to like can't seem to get there. Yeah, and it's it's not good for you if you're not eating enough. I would like to not set myself up for failure in that way.
SPEAKER_03So and for me, I find the same thing. Like I can't get enough food. Like
Nutrition Struggles And Metabolism Stories
SPEAKER_03I'm on a dirty bulk and I still can't get enough food. It gets to where I eat so much food that I can't I can't get to like I eat so many calories and carbs and stuff. Like I still need to eat more, but I feel so full from that meal. I almost have to force myself to eat.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And that's because and why is that? You you you're wanting you're you're wanting or you need to eat more because your muscles demand it, or it's what is um for me at least.
SPEAKER_03Um my metabolism is so high, especially with being athletic and being the age that I am. I mean, I'm only 19 years old, so like my metabolism is basically at its peak that it should be at right now. Um like the other day, I Half of a cherry pie myself. The big cherry pie is big at Walmart. I ate half of it myself. Oh my. I went to the cherry pie. I remember those days. I went to the gym that night. I weighed myself. I was 190. Biggest I've ever been in my life. Went to the gym the next day. Weighed my or no, I woke up that morning, weighed myself. I hadn't done anything. I lost four pounds in my sleep. In my sleep. Wow. So like my body demands so much food for me to be able to gain weight, and I'm able to get the biggest I've been is 196, and it's so hard to keep that weight consistent. Wow. Like I almost have to eat, bro. It got so bad. There was one day in particular, I'll never forget this day. I had four meals on top of like a snack meal. I had six zebra cakes in a king-size Hershey bar in one sitting. I I could be rotund at this point. If my metabolism was any slower, I would be fat.
SPEAKER_02Wow. That's pretty amazing. Has documenting your journey made you more compassionate towards others who are struggling? Yes.
SPEAKER_01Um I started my Instagram page, right? And I posted my first video and I felt really good about it. And I mean, it's not necessarily about me feeling. I mean, yes, it's important to feel good about yourself, but like it's good to make others feel like they're noticed and like important as well. And I think that's kind of like a really good reason for me to continue to push like posting on Instagram because like not everybody's perfect, you know. So I just like being able to reach out to people who don't who can relate to you is like really important, and it makes me feel like it makes me feel like I should keep posting to find those people.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I have seen myself be more
Integrity, Discipline, And Realistic Progress
SPEAKER_03compassionate about people, like especially because like I've been skinny all my life, like this is literally the biggest I have ever been in my life. And I came, I was 6'2, maybe 160 at one point. Like I was beanpole and to find those people that do follow you, and you're like, like you look at their page after they like your post or something. Because like sometimes I'll catch myself going through who's liked my post, and then like look and see what they look like to see what their journey is. And I looked at one guy's Instagram and I was like, you know, he's working hard, and I used to look like him, and I know the struggle, so you want to be able to be there and support those people, and especially nowadays, it's a little bit more of a touchy subject, but people who are more overweight that are starting to get in the gym, I find that the most inspiring.
SPEAKER_04I agree.
SPEAKER_03You can be you can be skinny, go to the gym, and that's a that's that's dope. But if you're because like even for me when I first started, like I had trouble going, like being able to go to the gym because I was so insecure about how I look. And for people that are, you know, like way overweight, like being able to, you know, take that stuff out of their comfort zone and be able to go into public and work out. I feel like that just shows so much commitment and so much. No, they don't have they probably don't have that much confidence in themselves at that moment, but it shows that they want to have that comfort.
SPEAKER_02What does showing up publicly teach you about integrity, about being the same person online and offline?
SPEAKER_01You should be the same person whether or not you're on the internet on social media, because you don't want to put on like a facade and then get a following from people who like see this one side of you, but that's not truly who you are. Like you want to stay like a hundred percent like I I guess vulnerable to people in that kind of way. Like, I don't want people to see me as a different person than I am in real life. If like one day, if I ever like got famous and I met a follower of mine, like I want them to know like I'm still the same person that they see on the screen.
SPEAKER_03To be truly successful on social media, you have to be just yeah, transparent on social media with your followers, with everybody. Because even I think this happened like last week, there was a famous Instagram, Facebook gym influencer, and it came out that he had lied about some things, and he is kind of still that same person, but what he lied about is what got him that massive following. But being able to be vulnerable with the people that you're trying to influence, when someone learns that you're lying about something and you're the one that's influencing them, they're not gonna want that influence anymore, they're gonna turn away from it, and that's like Christianity, like church hurt, is so bad. Yes, when you get like someone that's in the Christian church and then they talk to somebody badly, that's gonna turn that person away from the Christian church, and it's the same thing in basically any type of culture, like especially in the gym culture. If you talk badly about somebody in the gym, they're not gonna want to go to the gym anymore. Because you're there to uplift them and make them better and try and motivate them, like with our pages. I what I'm trying to do is motivate people, yeah. Like, yeah, I want people to see what I've what I've been doing, but I'm trying to motivate them into being like, yeah, I could achieve something in that area, achieve my goals too. So, yeah.
SPEAKER_02If someone never gets in shape but they learn to keep promises to themselves, is that still success?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel like I would say yeah too.
SPEAKER_03Because I mean, for some, especially with health issues, like some people aren't able to lose weight or aren't able to gain weight. But if you're able to make the discipline of being able to be like even even waking up and being like having a set time to read your Bible, that it's it takes dedication. Like sometimes a lot of people, especially and I find myself doing it, I'll get so busy, I'm like, bro, I just can't I can't find time. But if you're able to make that make that discipline and mark those parts in your schedule and just be able to, you know, keep yourself accountable and I mean be honest.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. I've started reading the Bible from front to back, and I post my progress on Instagram on my Instagram page. And I've missed the last three days. Oh my god, and so all morning I've been thinking it's gonna take me all day to catch up, you know. But you know, you gotta give yourself a break. But but the the desire's there, and and and that's the struggle with consistency, and I think it's good for people to struggle with it. It's not easy, going to the gym is not easy, reading is not consistently not easy, and if you want to do it and you wrestle with yourself, with your mind, you know, and who's gonna win? Is it uh your emotional self or is it your whatever real self there is there? Uh, but that that struggle is real and it's good. So if you see someone struggling with being consistent, I applaud you because you're you're you're working at it, you know? And like you said, no one's perfect, and but you know, I mean, there's people who say they want to do it, but they never do anything about it. That's yeah, that's nothing. But there's somebody who says they want to do something, huh?
SPEAKER_03I think it's very funny that you use the words wrestling, because even in the Bible, David wrestled with God, yeah. Like it literally says that David wrestled with God. We go through that every day, like we wrestle with ourselves in our own mind, like being able to be like controlled, it's just yeah, it's hard, and discipline is so hard to get yourself into, and if you can't find that discipline, like sometimes discipline makes success, genuinely. It makes success if you can't find the discipline to read your Bible, go to the gym, like sometimes those are signs that you're like, dang, I gotta change something.
SPEAKER_02Who's the guy that wrestled with the uh person in the desert? And who was that? Wrestled with an angel and uh hurt his thigh or something. I can't remember who that was.
SPEAKER_01I have no idea.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I can't remember. It's in the old testament. Oh, Jacob in Genesis 32. Maybe, yeah. Yeah. My son has a phrase I was telling Draven this, uh, brutal consistency. You know, just I love it. Just you you die trying, you know. It's brutal because sometimes it is brutal. I mean, there could be blood, you know.
SPEAKER_04Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02It's that, it's that, uh, it's that uh uh serious. Um whether it's reading your book, your Bible, going to the gym, uh getting to work on time, uh doing the things you know you should be doing. Just be just be consistent at it, be intentional and and know why you're doing it, you know. There are ways to improve discipline. It's like if you're gonna go to the gym in the morning, lay out your gym clothes the night before so you don't have to get up and look for it, or go to sleep in your gym clothes. I don't know, whatever, you know, and just get out and go. Um prep your meal, meal prep so that when it comes time to eat, you're not looking for junk. You're it's already there waiting on you. You just make it super hit the easy button and all these things. What misconceptions do people have about fitness journeys that you've already learned aren't true?
SPEAKER_01Um, I would say that people think it's such a linear thing, like growth is linear, but it's not. So a lot like on social media, I'll go scrolling through TikTok or Instagram and I see a bunch of these people posting on, you know, posting their fitness journeys and stuff like that, and it seems so perfect. And I'm like, man, why can't I be that way? But in reality, it's probably the way that we see it is probably not the way that they're doing it, if that makes sense. So, like for me, obviously I've learned that growth isn't linear. Like, obviously, I've had times where I haven't been to the gym in a month, or I eat a donut, which I'm I'm trying to fix that because yeah, whatever.
Misconceptions, Motivation, And Wrap-Up
SPEAKER_01But I just think a lot of people think that it's such a perfect journey when it's not.
SPEAKER_02The struggle's real.
SPEAKER_01The struggle is real, and they can't go into the gym expecting that they're not gonna miss one day in a year when it's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_02So that's good. All right, so yeah, Sebastian, what's uh what's your you know, as we head out here, what's your Instagram page? Oh yeah, he had to leave. Um the internet cut him out cut out for me. I was it was okay, yeah. Great. All right, so as we head out here, what's your Instagram page?
SPEAKER_01It's Liz with three Z. Liz Lifts. Three Zs, three S's. That's the same as my TikTok, too. I think they're both the same, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Cool, and then Sebastian's his is uh CBA. I'll put these down in the notes below, but uh CBass lift underscore. And uh yeah, so those of you listening out there, uh give these guys a follow, send them some love, uh, give them some comments, share their pages, uh, help them help them do what they've just told us they want to do. If there's somebody you know that uh could use some motivation, some uh inspiration, these Elizabeth Draven Hope and Sebastian Pierce are good people to follow and look after and uh become friends with. All right, well, Draven, thanks a lot for taking the time. Uh Sebastian for inviting me. Hey, you bet. Um, it's been great, and uh I wish you all the best on your your pages, and uh I'll keep uh prodding you along, keep it going, you know. Yeah, I'll be y'all's biggest fan. All right, well, Liz, thanks a lot for everything, and it's been great. It's a good conversation. Thanks for having me. So for Liz Draven Hope and Sebastian Pierce, this is Scott Townsend. Thanks for listening to the Scott Townsend Show. Have a great day. Everything's gonna be alright, and we'll talk to you later.
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