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Beware The Free Steak Dinner: The Truth About Financial Seminars
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In this episode Josh talks about something that shows up in mailboxes all across America every week. Free retirement seminars, free educational workshops, free financial planning courses, free lunches, free steak dinners. And while these events are often marketed as educational opportunities, many of them have a very specific purpose to sell a financial product. Are they legit? Are they useful? Josh breaks it all down for you.
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Wiser Financial Advisor – Beware the Free Steak Dinner
Hi Everyone, and welcome to the Wiser Financial Advisor podcast, where we get real, we get honest, and we get clear about the financial world and your money. This is Josh Nelson, a Certified Financial Planner, founder and CEO of Keystone Financial Services. Let the financial fun begin!
Today, I want to talk about something that shows up in mailboxes all across America every week. Free retirement seminars, free educational workshops, free financial planning courses, free lunches, free steak dinners. And while these events are often marketed as educational opportunities, many of them have a very specific purpose to sell a financial product. Most commonly, that's an annuity. Now, before I go any further, let me make an important disclaimer, this is not an anti-annuity episode. The issue isn't necessarily with the product. The issue is understanding who is giving the advice, how they're compensated, and whether the recommendation is truly objective.
The reason that this topic is top of mind for me is that I recently received one of these in the mail myself. It advertised a comprehensive retirement planning course being held in Canvas Stadium at Colorado State University. When I first saw it, I had to smile. The brochure looked professional. The topics sounded educational: retirement income planning, social retirement income planning, social security strategies, tax efficient retirement withdrawals, investment planning, estate planning, everything a retiree or pre-retiree would want to learn about. Because it was being held in a major university facility, it naturally carried an extra layer of credibility and looked legitimate.
It felt legitimate. Then I noticed something else. At the end of the course, attendees were offered a complimentary one-on-one consultation, and that's when the light bulb went on for me, because I've seen this movie before. Let's think about the economics of this for a minute. Someone has paid for the direct mail campaign. Someone has rented the venue. Someone has paid for the marketing materials. Someone is dedicating multiple evenings to teaching the course, and then offering free consultations afterward. That's a significant investment of time and money.
The obvious question becomes, how are they getting paid? The answer is that they expect a return on their investment. And in many cases, that return comes from selling financial products, most often annuities. In fact, we've spoken with two prospective clients recently who attended programs very similar to this. Both believed they were attending an objective educational event. Both were impressed by the presentation. Both accepted the complimentary consultation. and both eventually found themselves sitting through an annuity sales presentation. Neither one initially realized that the presenter was compensated through product sales. Again, that doesn't automatically make the recommendation wrong, but it does matter because incentives matter.
One of my favorite business lessons comes from Charlie Munger, who famously said, show me the incentive and I'll show you the outcome. That's true in virtually every area of life. And it's certainly true in financial services. Imagine walking into a Ford dealership and asking whether you should buy a Ford. The salesperson may be knowledgeable, the salesperson may be honest, the salesperson may genuinely believe that Ford makes excellent vehicles, but they're probably not going to recommend a Toyota. Not because they're bad people, but because that's not the business model.
The same principle applies in financial services. If someone's compensation is tied to selling annuities, it's not surprising that many of the solutions that they recommend involve annuities. When all you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail. Now let's talk about what many consumers don't understand. The term financial advisor is used very broadly in the financial services industry. Some advisors are primarily investment advisors. Some are insurance agents. Some are stockbrokers. Some are fee-only fiduciaries. And the difference matter a lot. Two people can both call themselves financial advisors while operating under completely different compensation structures and legal standards. One may be paid commissions for selling products, the other may receive no commissions whatsoever. One may be held to a fiduciary standard all the time, the other may not. Yet to the average consumer, they can appear nearly identical.
That's why one of the most important questions you can ask any financial professional is how do you get paid? You don't need to be awkward or confrontational, just be direct. Do you receive commissions? Do you receive compensation for recommending specific products? Will you put that commitment in writing? These answers will tell you a lot.
Now let's contrast these seminar-based business models with an independent fee-only fiduciary advisor. A fee-only advisor doesn't receive compensation or commissions from insurance companies. We don't receive compensation from mutual fund companies. We don't receive commissions from annuity providers. We get paid directly by our clients and only from our clients. That's it. As a result, our incentives are aligned differently. If an annuity is the right solution, we can recommend one. If it's not the right solution, we can recommend something else. We don't have a financial incentive pushing us toward one particular product category. Instead, we begin with the client's goals.
What are they trying to accomplish? What are they worried about? What does their retirement look like? What income do they need? How much risk can they tolerate? What tax issues are they facing? What legacy goals do they have? Then we build a strategy around that person or family, not around a product. That's a fundamentally different process. One approach starts with a product that looks for people who might buy it. The other starts with a person that looks for solutions that might fit their situation. Those are not the same thing.
Now, does that mean every free seminar is bad? No, not at all. Some provide useful information. Some of the presenters are ethical and transparent. Some of the attendees genuinely learn valuable concepts. But I do think consumers should go in with their eyes open, understand the business model, understand the incentives, understand that educational presentations and marketing are not always mutually exclusive, because sometimes education is the marketing. The free dinner is the marketing, the workshop is the marketing, the course is the marketing, and especially the complimentary consultation is the marketing. That's okay as long as everyone understands what's happening.
Transparency is what matters. The next time you receive an invitation to a free retirement seminar, enjoy the meal, enjoy the education if you'd like, take notes, learn something, ask questions. But before implementing any recommendation, ask yourself one simple question. How is this person getting paid? Because that question alone can save you from making a decision that you don't fully understand. And remember, the question isn't whether the dinner was free or the workshop was free. The question is whether the advice is objective. Those are two very different things.
If you're listening to this episode and wondering whether a recommendation you've received is truly in your best interest. I want you to know that we are happy to be a resource. You don't have to become a client to just ask a question. If you've attended one of these seminars, been presented with an annuity, received a retirement income proposal, or if you simply want a second opinion, just reach out to us. We're happy to help you understand what you're being shown, how the recommendation works, what the costs are, and whether there may be alternative approaches worth considering.
At Keystone Financial Services, we are an independent fee-only fiduciary advisory firm. We don't receive commissions for selling financial products, and we're legally obligated to put our clients' interests first. Our goal is not to sell you a product. Our goal is to help you make informed financial decisions that are best for you. So whether you're looking for a long-term advisor relationship, a pure fiduciary advisor, or simply want an objective second opinion, we'd be honored to be a resource for you and your family. You can learn more about us, schedule a conversation, or reach out with questions anytime. We'd love to hear from you. The best way to find us is just going to our website at www.keystonefinancial.com .
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The opinions voiced in the Wiser Financial Advisor show with host Josh Nelson are for general information only and are not intended to provide specific advice or recommendations for any individual. To determine what may be appropriate for you, consult with your attorney, accountant, financial or tax advisor prior to investing. Investment advisory services offered through Keystone Financial Services, an SEC registered investment advisor.