With Covid still causing cancellations and postponements in the performance world, Graham and Charles contest the rights and wrongs of current government policy for live shows. Graham reports on his interview with Bobby Elliot, veteran drummer with The Hollies as they embark on their 60th anniversary tour. Graham also takes a look at Souvenir, Michael Bracewell's book on the London of the '70s and '80s and the artists it inspired. Charles and Graham reflect on the 30th anniversary of U2's album, Achtung Baby with Charles wondering what U2 are doing now. Graham comments on how the ongoing court case between Ed Sheeran and Sami Chokri and Ross O'Donoghue is shaping up over part of Sheeran's global hit, Shape Of You.