Charles and Graham reflect on the life, backbeats and fashion of Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts. Graham explores the re-release of cult Sonic Youth musician Kim Gordon's book about feminism and sexism in rock as part of a slew of re-published Faber music titles. Graham and Charles ponder the British/Soviet spy game in the latest Dominic Cumberbatch film, The Courier, and Graham gives his verdict on French indie legend Leo Carax's film musical Annette - made with and inspired by music and songs from Sparks. Graham finds time to have a rant about what venues need to do to keep customers engaged and onside after reopening. A quick interruption from Graham leads to Charles saluting the return of ABBA with their first new music in 40 years and transformation into ABBAtars on the London stage next spring. Bon Voyage.