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SPEAKER_02Bobby is a creature. Bobby is a creature of habit. Try a different emphasis on creature. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's the Viva in threes. You should do that.
SPEAKER_02You can do it. That would definitely do that. I'd rather Bobby do his thing than get goofy on them. What's weird? We'll lose.
SPEAKER_06We should do it in French because we are rating on the French charts as high as we are on the American charts. Oh, explain that.
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SPEAKER_06All right, everybody. Well, here we are once again, West Point, Mississippi, home of Mossy Oak brand Camo. And guys, I'm gonna throw it out there. Also home of the Oak Hill golf team that has just won it six seventh. Seventh. Excuse me, corrected by none other than Toxie at the end of the table. State championship.
SPEAKER_07That's pretty awesome.
SPEAKER_06That is incredible. They are lights out ahead of the competition. Well, it's got to have something to do with the Mall Syoke golf course. They're out there practicing all the time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, oh, Waverly. Um BJ and TJ and T. It was Mr. George who started all that, but it's incredible. It's absolutely incredible. There was an article we just saw, but it's the University of Oak Hill. And it's a nobody knows except right here. It's a little small school of 350 or so students, maybe a few more now. And uh yet they have the most dominant golf team in the history of Mississippi High School, according to the article.
SPEAKER_03Didn't they win by like 40 strokes?
SPEAKER_0283 strokes in the state championship match. They could have thrown, they could have added the other person and still won that they had thrown out. I was reading some of the stats. They played a tournament with all the biggest high schools and most prominent golf teams in the state, won it by 20-something strokes in that one. And they're they had to throw out a 69. In other words, they had someone shoot a 69, didn't even get to count their score. They had five other ones higher, lower than that. Wow. Just crazy. And and the thing about it, they have kids from the seventh grain up on that team. There was like only one senior. So uh it's just a testament to VJ and Tim. No doubt about it. And what they've done. It's been going on for a long, long time. Yeah. Can we get the horns for them once? That's amazing. So proud of our town, a little small town. And they are it really is. Yeah. That was going on long before Mossy Oak Golf course, which is a part of all that now. That's true. Yeah, we're just proud to be a part of what they do. And they and they train, you know, PGA, men and women both that are, you know, on the tour there. It's one of the top training facilities in the country.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, the Mississippi State training facility, right? That's right.
SPEAKER_02But BJ ends up being the coach, and his course's sons are playing there too, which helps. But there's a whole host of them. Uh in the interview, it said, he says, I've got fourth and fifth graders that may be better when they get to be in high school than the ones I have now, even. So that's uh that's great. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_06Lanny, you need to get your kids playing golf. This could be a career. We're too busy.
SPEAKER_02The best way to pay for a college tuition run right now is to get them enrolled in BJ and Tim school.
SPEAKER_07Landy, have you ever played golf? Uh uh no. Not a whole round. That's me too. I always got distracted uh, you know, fishing in the lakes. So I would bring my fishing poles because I did uh my granddad's soybean farming up being a golf course, and we'd go and I'd fish while anybody else would go.
SPEAKER_06The ponds are always highly fertilized, so they're very productive. So that's kind of like what we're talking about today. It is. So look, we're gonna ease into this. We've got Chris Grantham from Alabama Liquid Fertilizers, and he's an interesting guy over there, and he knows a lot about spraying these foliar applied fertilizers.
SPEAKER_07So these are easy, affordable applications that they do a lot, so they work. Oh, exactly. We wouldn't put biologic on them if they didn't work. I mean, exactly.
SPEAKER_02The key is getting people to try it once they've ever tried it, you know, and we're trying to make it easier for them all the time. And the pricing of things today is going to make it a lot easier for them in the value. It's amazing. Well, I mean, it's a different thing than you know, spreading them with the buggy, like everybody traditionally doing petroleum, fertilizers, blah, blah, blah. But it's so advantageous in so many ways. You know.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and you can mix stuff in there with it too, can't you?
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and you know, there's there's still a lot of naysayers out there, but this technique it's been around since the 50s. I was reading up on it earlier. A couple of researchers out of Michigan State in the 50s were uh somehow mixing radioactive stuff with phosphorus and potassium and applying it to leaf surfaces, and then they were using a Geiger counter to monitor the movement of plants.
SPEAKER_07That's cool. So that's how they figured out the foliar application, how many the rates in your house?
SPEAKER_03On average it was moving about a foot per hour through the plants.
SPEAKER_07That's amazing.
SPEAKER_03Bobby's producing potassium, but I mean, heck, uh really uh folks in the pecan business, they've been doing that for 60 or 70 years, applying uh zinc foliarly.
SPEAKER_06You know, when we thought he was back there looking at Instagram, he was actually Google and looking at something.
SPEAKER_02That's cool. The first non-typical whitetails ate this foliar stuff in the uh uh nuclear. I was gonna say radioactive material created the first, you know, non-typical whitetails back in the fifties. That's right. That's interesting, though.
SPEAKER_06So before we crack open this, uh, I want to point out that this is our 96th episode. Man. And I uh you know, gosh, when we started, it seemed like we started just. You really didn't. Pocket cast, I think he said. Yeah, we didn't. So uh we have got we have kind of designed uh a giveaway for the we're on our way to 100. That's right. Hopefully we will get to 100. Toxie got the little plug on us at 99 or something. If it doesn't stop raining, we may be doing it by boat. So we've got some great prizes. So what I wanted to do is we're gonna bring Jason McKeller in to explain the contest. So Jason, if everybody remembers, Jason killed a big alligator last year on one of our television shows. Yeah. With uh that's the one that you fell out of the boat trying to get the gator as a really drawn out. Go watch that television show.
SPEAKER_07I thought someone pushed you. No, I jumped. Oh okay. Richie was not sorry. Richie was not happy with me.
SPEAKER_06So the there's gonna be a big giveaway at the 100th episode, but leading up to the next four episodes, we're giving away some great prizes. So Jason, would you could you tell us about it, please?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so uh starting this episode, we're gonna we're gonna uh give a trivia question to you guys, see who can answer it.
SPEAKER_07That we don't know the answer to.
SPEAKER_01No one's heard it. The guys around the office kind of emailed around and got a few. Uh so uh you know, they're relevant. So basically to enter, listen to the episode, get the answer to the trivia question, and then go to uh Game Keepers, Mossyok Gamekeeper.com slash podcast giveaway. And you can enter that answer in a form. So you got four answers. So each episode you got to go listen, go online and do it. So each time you enter, you you can win that prize. It's like today we're giving away a $250 gift card. If you answer it right, you get entered to win that prize, plus you get entered to win the grand prize, which is the Browning A5. Bottom land.
SPEAKER_07Browning A5. No way. Oh, yes. You're gonna enter, aren't you? Oh, wait, I don't think you can.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, he didn't know it, but it's his A5. Oh, we're giving away. You already got one. It's old.
SPEAKER_02I thought y'all told me it was Bobby's.
SPEAKER_03I don't know how we're gonna advertise that on social media, but hopefully we can reach out to a lot of folks.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so Ken, say again what they've got to do, where they have to go. Say that one more time where people have to go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so after you hear the after you listen to the episode and you hear the uh trivia answer, go to Mossy OakGameKeeper.com slash uh podcast giveaway. Podcast giveaway. Yeah, it's in the menu bar too. Yeah, it's in the menu bar.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01And you can enter five times, is that right? You can enter five times. You can enter, you know, your first sign ups, uh sign up for a new. Wait, wait, wait, time out.
SPEAKER_02You said there's four answers available. If I enter five times, I'm gonna get it right.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, you're doing the math on how many people we have to do. You can tell, you can tell how you know how past college. And and each week I think the prizes get bigger.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they do. And we're gonna wait to the hundredth episode. You tune in there and we'll announce all the winners and contact everybody.
SPEAKER_07And uh I got a quick question. Yeah. What if Bobby gets the answer wrong with the Twitchie question?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, what happens? Well, today will be a good test for you. You should know today's question. Yeah, I love trivia.
SPEAKER_06So the person's here, he'll bail them out. We've got a $250 Gamekeeper fieldware gift card. All right. Uh next week we're gonna have some Leopold sunglasses. Love those. Uh the next week we're gonna have some uh custom pair of Russell boots. So you'll send in your measurements and Joe is gonna make you some boots. Yep.
SPEAKER_07That's a serious prize right there.
SPEAKER_06Then uh Gunnar Kennel is gonna give away a Game Keeper Edition Gunner Kennel.
SPEAKER_07Nice.
SPEAKER_06And then last uh, but and the grand prize, uh a Browning A5 is dipped in an original bottom land. It's beautiful. Straight out of Toxie's closet. Straight out of his safe.
SPEAKER_02Can I quit my job for about a month and then so one thing you have in common, all five of those are terrific, terrific quality brands. Oh, yeah. They really, really are. Everything about them, everything they put together, the people there and all, those are great companies.
SPEAKER_06They sure are. They certainly are.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's more than a t-shirt and a hat for sure.
SPEAKER_06It's a hundredth episode, y'all. So, Jason, is there anything else you want to tell us about that?
SPEAKER_01No, I think that's it. I mean, you just you listen. Uh there's also links to the episodes on the form where you've entered a win. So if you if you miss it, go there, you click it, you can listen back for it, and then enter your answer.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and it correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're in Rhode Island, New York, or Florida, you're just out of luck.
SPEAKER_01Yep, that's right. The prizes are worth too much. Wamp, whamp, baggum sweep stakes law.
SPEAKER_02Well, we're sorry about that. So send a letter to your state congressman or somebody in telling you want to win the gamekeeper prize.
SPEAKER_03Let us hunt on Sundays and fix the Game Keeper.
SPEAKER_06Well, do y'all want to go ahead and ask the question now? I want to know what it is.
SPEAKER_07I don't know if we can.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_07All right, so the answer to this question is what they will plug in. Okay, so this is gonna be the prize. Well, the answer to this question is gonna be the prize word to enter.
SPEAKER_06That is I think that's right. Okay. I hope we get it right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so whether y'all get it right or not, we we were gonna do it. We're gonna tell them what the answer is. Yeah, yeah, that's okay. Yeah. Alright, so I'll start this off uh for this one. Bobby, this one's kind of you should know this one. So we're we're everyone's expecting you you're gonna, you know, we're just gonna start out easy. What year did Game Keeper magazine change its name from farming to wildlife to gamekeepers?
SPEAKER_07Oh my goodness. I know this one. You should remember we were digging a beaver dam.
SPEAKER_06I I don't remember the year, but it was probably about twelve years ago.
SPEAKER_07I think it was longer than that.
SPEAKER_06Longer than that. I don't know the year. I'll be honest, I don't want to take a lot of time. I don't know the year.
SPEAKER_07I'm on guess. 2008.
SPEAKER_05Really?
SPEAKER_03I'm gonna say close. Close. Nine. Oh, really? Okay. I was gonna say like twelve. Well, so I'm at I'm at ten.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you said twelve years ago. Ten, Bobby.
SPEAKER_06Twenty so I got it right by accident. I guess.
SPEAKER_02No, you didn't. You you you immediately said twelve years ago. But what took you a minute and a half was to subscribe twelve from twenty-two. That's what it took so long.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, okay. There we go. You get you got me there. So guys will put in 2010.
SPEAKER_01Yep, one one word answers online. So there, you'll see a little blank that says 96 episode trivia answer. Click on it, enter 2010, and you're in it to win the $250 gift card.
SPEAKER_07And possibly the Browning A5. That's right. Out of Toxic Claws.
SPEAKER_01And bottom land.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. You know, we can probably put some Apex shells with that that gun, too.
SPEAKER_03That's probably the most all-purpose shotgun you can get.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, those are the new A5. Chris, you're you're nodding your head. You've you've obviously been around a an old humpback browning. They're awesome.
SPEAKER_04They are.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, they sure are. Fun to shoot. Okay, one more piece of business. Mac, we got a commercial for today. We do.
SPEAKER_05Uh, since we're talking about foliar fertilizers, I thought it would be a perfect time to talk about our ATV, UTV, uh, Game Keeper 25 gallon uh boomless sprayer that you can pick up at basspro.com.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. You know, it's an awesome sprayer. Landy, I was playing around with one. No, it looks great. It's got the two nozzles on the back that spray out in a fan. So this comes with the boom kit. It does. And probably a little bit stouter motor, I would imagine. It's five gallons per minute, which I think is about as big as you can get.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's about right. Yeah, that's they're great units. They really are, I've gotten so addicted to using them for so many applications. They're so handy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07This has the wine and the boomless on it.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_06It does. And it's a GameCube edition, so if you go to basspro.com, you can search and you can find a game keeper.
SPEAKER_02You know, one of the things that that um when I've used it, trailer it, I filled it up, and then I'm at a remote location. I'm gonna get more water in it. Actually, I've taken some old two and a half gallon cans I had left over, or you can take go buy like a five-gallon gas can, but don't put any gas in it yet. But you can transport extra water, and you can actually, if you have a pond nearby, you can dip like a five-gallon bucket of water. Just make sure it's not real muddy or got trash in it. Or fish.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah, or fish.
SPEAKER_02But uh I always thought it was too limiting because you know, two and a half gallons, I mean 25 gallons and I'm done. But it's not that hard to fill them back up and use them again, especially if you've got good clean lake water somewhere nearby. Yeah. In a five-gallon bucket, it'll do it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. And so we're giving away the 25-gallon today.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. So later on we're gonna ask Chris a trivia question, and the winner, he'll he'll be playing for uh one of our listeners that left a review for us. So it's a great price.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and they're making it looks like they've got 25 gallon, they've got 40 gallon, and they've got a 60-gallon bottle. Yeah, they do. And boomless is great. Yeah, it's sure.
SPEAKER_03What we do, um, and one thing I was noticing, I hadn't used it yet, but I was looking at uh you can turn one side off or both sides. But so for example, if you're just wanting to spray the right side of your road to kill grasses and not broadleaves, you could do that. And then you might could come back a couple weeks later and do the opposite. And so one side of the road you got wildflowers and broadleaves, next other side of the road you got grasses.
SPEAKER_02Plus, I think if you turn every the that side off, the the side you leave on is probably going to have more pressure and push it out for you too.
SPEAKER_08So pretty good.
SPEAKER_02You know, we talked last year about the army worm epidemic, and I've never done it before until this last year, where I had to get on them immediately, didn't have time to go get a tractor drive around where it was, and it made a great, you know, emergency operation unit for army worms for me last year.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Be that time before we know it. Yes. So uh you on your on your uh can am side by side, you you are you using a 40 or 60 gallon?
SPEAKER_02Actually, on the side by side, I've got a 60 gallon I use. Yeah. But on four-wheelers, I typically just stick with the twenty-five. Yeah, that's a lot of weight. You could go to 40 on a bigger four-wheeler, but to handle itself. The best the best thing I learned is try to think ahead of time. If you've got good clean pine water accessible in a five-gallon bucket, you can fill them back up and and reload, and you can do a lot with just a 25-gallon tank. The main thing I would say above all else, like everything else we talk about, safety, always be cautious about windy conditions and drift. That's the main thing. You know, don't drive right back through it. Other than that, they're amazing, and I've learned to use them a lot more in the last couple of years.
SPEAKER_07And always wash your tank and purge your lines.
SPEAKER_02For sure. Got it. That's right. Especially at the end of the day. But anytime you won't go from one chemical to the next, absolutely, but I've learned also in the winter.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02You know, you'll run that pump if you just leave the chemical in it over the winter. Yeah, that makes sense.
SPEAKER_06Okay. Anything else, Mac? Is that it?
SPEAKER_05It its coverage is actually 24 feet, which I mean makes quick work of a pass for sure. Oh yeah. That's great.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it does. Okay. Mac, thank you so much for that. So let's get back. Chris, we're we're real excited that you're here. And uh, there we go. And so you're from Elba, Alabama. Yes, sir. It was the Pea River is down there, it floods from time to time. I killed my first turkey years ago on the Pea River near P Rote, Alabama. So that's a really metropolis.
SPEAKER_04It's a historic river down there. It is. It is a historic river, and most everybody knows Elba from either it's on the way to the beach or it's that little town that floods every eight or ten years.
SPEAKER_06Mad floods, too. Yeah. Well, so how did you get into the fertilize liquid fertilizer business?
SPEAKER_04Well, I kind of got lucky. I married the Doss the boss's daughter. It's a pretty good strategy. Hey, it worked. I was uh I was working construction in Montgomery, building subdivisions, water and sewer systems, and grew up on a farm and went to school at Auburn, played a little football there, War Eagle. And uh just happened to meet Kelly, and when I found out what her dad did, that he made liquid fertilizer for turf, mostly for golf courses. Like a lot of folks, I've never hit a golf ball. I probably couldn't hit it if I had to. But I told her dad, I you know, I don't know anything about golf. But when he explained how liquid fertilizer works and how fast it gets into the plants and how much more efficient it is than a granular fertilizer, I said, Man, we need something for food plots. I know hunting, I know fishing, I don't know golf. And I bugged him for two years to make me something for a food plot. He finally got tired of hearing it and he made our uh the liquid uh plot mix that we have. And as soon as we started spraying it, we seen instant results. I've had people call and say, Man, I think I seen a different color in the grass from one row to the next when I was spraying. It goes in so fast. And when you see how quick it gets into the plant, you was talking about it moved a foot in an hour, you know, coming in through the soil and the roots, it may take a week for that fertilizer to move a foot or actually get into the root system by by foliar feeding, it's going directly in the plant, and it's you know, eighty to ninety percent of the fertilizer's in the plant within the first couple hours of working, of getting in there. And then if you have a two or three inch rain show up out of nowhere, all your fertilizer's not running off down to the bottom of the hill or in your neighbor's fish pond or down the creek. And you know, that can be fertilizer pollution can be a problem in a lot of areas, especially in in southern Florida and down around the coast.
SPEAKER_06So you're even saying, if I'm hearing this right, that uh like if the pH isn't correct on your soils, and there's a lot of soils that aren't, but the the way this fertilizer is absorbed through the leaves, it's it potentially is not bound up in the soil like others could be if the pH wasn't right.
SPEAKER_04Correct. It because it is going in through the leaves and not the roots, it's not gonna be bound up in the soil and nothing can replace good soil or proper pH because your plants like certain pH levels to grow in. And pH, you know, you're you're still gonna have to feed your soil. It's not here to replace granular fertilizer. We we're not gonna be able to do that ever, unfortunately. But it can enhance what you have, it can put what the plants are needing directly into the plants when they need it. And also with the plot mix having a calcium in it that the deer and the turkey are needing, it's putting that calcium directly in the plants that they're eating, and when they find it, I don't know how they know it's there, but when they find it, they cannot stay away from it. They have to come to it.
SPEAKER_06Well, we had done some testing years ago, guys, and it led us to Chris, and we were introduced to Chris by Morty Fisher, a friend, a friend of a longtime friend of Martiok. And uh and so we you know, you produce now when the guys go online to plant biologic and uh and you'll see our liquid food plot fertilizer and our liquid clover fertilizer. That that's produced by you there in Elba, Alabama.
SPEAKER_04Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_06But we were just very impressed with the with uh the results we got in this fertilizer. So i could you can you kind of let let's talk about the difference in the two if you if you could and uh Toxie's really into clovers right now and I think let's start off with that talking about the liquid clover fertilizer and how it enhan how it helps.
SPEAKER_04Well the the clover fertilizer is a it's a zero ten twenty. Clover is a legume, so it produces its own nitrogen. So if you put a fertilizer on it that is high in nitrogen, you can actually make the clover six or or even kill it. By having a an O1020 mix, it's putting the the fertilizer that the the clover needs directly into the plant and it will it will respond quickly. And we actually designed the O1020 because of one of our customers that has a deer farm that has clover in his deer pens. His deer wasn't eating his clover, and what they were eating, he he just felt like it wasn't giving them what they needed. And he talked with us and asked us to make something that had a a good bit of phosphorus in it and a lot of potassium. So we come up with the O1020, and the first time he sprayed it, he called us in a couple days and he said, Man, my deer are mowing the clover. This stuff is awesome.
SPEAKER_02And we've we we went with it from there. So I'm not a soil scientist, but I always have remembered from many, many years ago how um the phosphorus and potash or phosphor uh they take longer to translocate into the soil, and in other words, you need you you if you fertilize in P and K, the nitrogen might be utilized immediately, but the P and K take a lot longer. Is that right, Dudley? Uh be incorporated in the soil for longer.
SPEAKER_03Uh nitrogen goes first, right? Then K and P stays around for a long time.
SPEAKER_02Right. So in other words, like a lot of you know, whatever, soybean farmers or whatever around here, cotton probably too, they'll put those in the ground this in the fall for utilization the next spring. And I was just wondering, you know, it seems like with this you would get immediate uptake and usage or translocation or whatever of those two as opposed to trying to ply them in the soil. So for clover, for example, uh, you know, we don't need to be putting maybe just a little bit, but not much of any nitrogen on them. But the the the ones they need, seems like it would take a lot longer for it to rain in, wash into the soil, and get to a form where they could actually uptake it where it would be instantaneous with the foliar. That's one of the things. And you know, I didn't do pre and post-dry matter analysis on them, but wow, it was just like he described. It's crazy the I mean it was just like instantly almost emerald green and lush growth. Just, you know, it it it was almost immediate, but with the first rain that really stimulated, it was crazy how fast it jumped. I mean, it literally almost looked like I think I'd have sat there and watched it grow.
SPEAKER_06So on the clover fertilizer, it could also be used on soybeans or iron and clay peas. Oh, yeah. Any legume. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Including, you know, if you're good enough to identify them, uh, native brows.
SPEAKER_06Yes. Like a partridge pea? Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_02I was thinking about when you talked about the spray rig and turning that boom nozzle, uh, some really good like wildlife managers I've known over the years would actually use granular or foliar fertilizers and spray the edge of their roadside, especially in certain plant pine plantations, where it'd been thinned, they burn, and what grew back was some good, you know, native forages lagoons, you know, maybe some forbs. Anyway, they would just, they said, I'm gonna spend my money on fertilizer over planting anything else, and got great results. They were turning that boom, they were doing it on a tractor, and they were getting like 60 feet. But the same, you could do the same thing easily with a four-wheeler.
SPEAKER_04Sure. We actually have customers up in North Georgia, and uh that you know, bow season comes in up there before the acorns have really started falling, and they'll go in and spray the vegetation around their bow stands to bring the deer into their area because the fertilizer is gonna make the plants taste better. Oh, no question. And also by putting what the pl what the deer are looking for in the plants, it it gives them that little extra advantage, and they can go in there with a backpack sprayer or a two-gallon sprayer and spray a a 10 by 10 area and bring the deer right in where they want them.
SPEAKER_03It's kind of like cheating a little bit, but you know, it's it's so interesting to me how that works because, you know, like if a human was to walk up and taste that plant, you know, they're just they can sense it. And it may be just a minor difference, but they know it's there and they know that they need it more than the vegetation that's not quite as healthy.
SPEAKER_04Well, not only quite as healthy, but doesn't taste as good. The fertilizer makes it taste better. Right. And then, you know.
SPEAKER_02Well, they're gonna crave the things they're missing in their diet anyway. If they taste that, they're gonna just crave it like crazy. But I mean, I as much research has been done on white-tailed deer and they publish the numbers how many times greater they can smell than us. I don't think we really understand how incredible that is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Taste better is is layman's terms that we use to explain that phenomenon. It's it's pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_02Unbelievable how they can sense things like that.
SPEAKER_06So a guy while we're still on the liquid clover fertilizer, can he stack uh different herbicides in there with that and spray at one time?
SPEAKER_04It depends on the herbicide that he's using. Um, anytime we have customers want to mix anything with our products, we always tell them to do a jar test. You know, you don't want to put two ounces of fertilizer and two ounces of the chemical in there because you know it's not gonna be that strong in your tank. So you want to get a solution that's similar to what you're gonna be putting in your tank. You know, if you've got a couple ounces of water, put a drop of fertilizer, a drop of the chemical together and see if it stays uh stays liquid. You know, some of it it'll turn to t to something that looks like toothpaste. And you can imagine trying to clean that out of a 25-gallon or a 200-gallon sprayer.
SPEAKER_06So that jar test you you put all that in it, shake it up, and just submit it, make sure it stays.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but we Bobby uh Dudley, everybody, we we you know publish and even sell or make available and talk about certain there's not but say three or four or five, you know, popular herbicides we talk about a lot. And there's a couple in specifically are wonderful for wildlock use. We should test and publish that since we're working with them and their product and it's very specific. We ought to be able to help people figure that out without even having to shake them up in a jar. We should be able to do that. So we it's probably a pretty good project for us to look at.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, Matt, put that on our things to do with that. Yes.
SPEAKER_02Thank you, sir. Because I'd like y'all to do that and keep me from having to shake in the jar. Yeah, no problem.
SPEAKER_03Glyphosate, clethoden, amazomox.
SPEAKER_02So those are the main three. I didn't do it, but Greg Briggs and Tom uh Robertson, who manage most of my stuff for me, um, they did apply it with the clethodum amazumox. And I didn't hear any repercussions, so it must have gone well. The clover looks incredible, and I promise you, if Greg, especially if there was something wrong with it, he would have let me know. So evidently that worked, but I'd like to just double check before we publish that too much to people. But that's such a great herbicide combination for what we use. I mean, it works unbelievably like just like Clearfield sunflowers, even. But any lagoon, the clovers, the the peas, even uh, you know, traditional soybeans, uh, and it's so environmentally safe compared to a lot of herbicides.
SPEAKER_06So, how fast is the product uh rain rainproof.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Rainproof? Rain fast, actually.
SPEAKER_04There we go. It needs about two hours on the plants before you get a major rain.
SPEAKER_06So when you spray these plants, any that doesn't get on the plants is falling on the ground, does that get utilized as well?
SPEAKER_04It does, but a very minute amount because because foliar is so efficient, you're not putting a whole lot out there. Right. You know, when you when you spray an acre with Roundup to kill it, you put what a quart of Roundup in a tank and kill an acre. Right. Well, you know, we're putting two gallons of fertilizer in there.
SPEAKER_03Compared to three to four hundred pounds per acre of granular.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. And therefore you get your money savings, especially with prices being what they are now. Yeah. Um so we're a guy's looking at about $40 then. Correct.
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, two to two to four gallons per acre. Four is heavy. Uh two gallons per acre works really well. Um if you put, you know, you the more you put out, you actually start to risk burning the plants, which they will come out of it, but you're gonna turn them brown. Well, you're gonna waste your money. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you know, spent too much anyway. I I like the idea because you could you could I mean trying to be, you know, squeaky efficient, you could spray something very small and you know, of your coverage area might be 67% dirt. So what I'm getting at is when you spray clover, you're getting complete coverage. Every every unless you got a few bare spots, every single droplet is hitting a plant to be absorbed. So I would say of of just about anything, unless you've got peas and beans have kind of canopied already, and if you do that, you're probably running over some plants. The most efficient plant to spray it on would be, you know, whether it's unless it's a full coverage food plot, it would be clover.
SPEAKER_04And and that's another thing with spraying. You want to make sure that you actually have more foliage than dirt. Yes. Because you want it, you want all you want all your money going directly in your plants. Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Dudley, have you got a question? Well, that was one of them, uh, which was you know, what's what stage of growth or whatever. Um now what about timing? What about time of day? Do you want to put this out in the heat of the heat of the day or is it better to put it out early or late?
SPEAKER_04It's better early morning. Um you don't want to get, you know, of course, in the middle of the day it's hot, the plants are already being stressed. You don't want to hit them with a fertilizer during the middle of the day, but and then of course, real late in the afternoon, the stomata close up and it's you know, it's ready to go to sleep for tonight. But usually early morning works extremely well.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_02Hey, this is Toxie Hayes with Mossy Oak. You know, hunting and fishing, gamekeeping, and taking care of the land with my family is my life. And I'll be honest with you, the one out that I'm on every day and use more than anything is on X. It literally has changed my life. From property ownership to roads, everything to do with understanding the land better. I even use it to plot acreages all the time. Every function I could dream of use coupon code MOSIO to save 20% on your next on X subscription. Trust me, you'll be so glad you did. We would always wait on herbicides till it the dew kind of dried off. I was wondering if that do you dilute it or with fertilizer does it not even matter?
SPEAKER_04It will dilute it just a little bit, but because it is dew being on the leaf and then it's all actually mixing together, so it's still going in there. So if there's you know, if there's dew on there, it's not gonna not gonna harm you uh most of our golf courses, which is the the the parent of all of our liquid fertilizers is the turf industry. Right. You know, they're spraying at five or six o'clock in the morning before the you know, they gotta have everything done on the course before the players get out there at eight or nine or whenever they get through drinking their coffee to go play. And uh so you know the dew's not a big problem. And then of course another thing with our parent company being turf is everything that we use to make the fertilizer with is food, food or feed-based material. So if you get it on your fingers and stick them in your mouth, it's gonna taste really bad, but it's not gonna make you sick too bad. Well, it's good to know actually that is not a shot of it.
SPEAKER_02I'm not gonna do that, but you think about the critters eating it right away, too. That's a big deal.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER_04And and we've had customers spray it at, you know, ten o'clock in the morning and then go back out at twelve and shoot deer in the food plot that's eaten where they sprayed. So, you know, you know, there's no there's nothing in the in the fertilizer that smells bad enough to keep the white the deer off of it once you spray it on there. It doesn't take three or four days for the scent to go away for the deer to come after it.
SPEAKER_02You know, the the thing I've always thought about as an attractant type of product is that it's not something you spray on the plant or dump on the ground or whatever and it's kind of gone. It's there for the life of the plant, at least for quite some time, weeks and weeks at a minimum. You know, if it's making it taste better, it stays that way for, you know, for a while. Let's until the plant gets eaten up or goes dormant or something. So uh what a great, honestly, what a great uh tactic for people in hunting season. You know, way more meaningful than just a regular, you know, dump on the ground type attractant.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Well, so some of the the the really you could apply these most any time of the year, and and like the the regular food plot, liquid food plot fertilizer, a lot of guys are are putting that on like in uh later in the year during that kind of that warm spell that we seem to always get in in November and December.
SPEAKER_02Um we did some just a small plot last year, and instead of sometimes in the the dead of winter, uh gets it's gonna get some really, really cold weather, it'll soap stress. Uh and I guess it saps the nitrogen out of it, Dudley. Yeah, and they'll turn real yellow and so phosphate too. We yeah, and so we've uh depends on the plant. I mean, brass could use up a lot of phosphate, but we've top dressed with nitrate sometimes, you know. Probably not gonna do it in the next year or so with these prices. But this this will do it too, and give them a shot, an instant shot of nutrients that, you know, when it's cold like that, you talk about drawing deer. Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and when the ground is so wet, you know, it it may the plants there's not any air, you know, so it it makes it harder for the plants to extract the nutrients out of the ground. So uh stressful times of year is when this stuff really shines. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Mac, you look like you jumping up and down.
SPEAKER_05I I have a kind of a question or really a more of a like a thought question. Uh so thinking about the turkeys laying eggs uh in the springtime, would it be fair to say that if you sprayed your food plots that the turkeys were utilizing during nesting season, could that hen's eggs be stronger with the calcium from the liquid fertilizer?
SPEAKER_07Absolutely. Boom. Go mad. You would think so.
SPEAKER_04I mean well, that that is uh with the with the food plot fertilizer, it has the calcium in it that the deer and the turkey are needing to, and that's why we designed it that way was for spring and summer. And when we were doing our testing on into the fall, we found it to work a whole lot better in the fall. But um, you know, your turkeys are out there, especially if you have clover and you pop a turkey, you bust their crawl up, and there's gonna be clover all in that in the turkey. And uh they're eating the clover itself, but then also the grasshoppers and bugs that are eating that clover leaf are also getting the calcium into them. So your polts are gonna be out there bugging and they're getting more calcium, more phosphorus, the stuff that they need as well. And you you'll have a healthier polt and a and a harder eggshell by having the calcium out there. You know, a lot of people uh buy oyster shells and and crush them up and put out for the turkeys. They can smell the calcium and they good Lord made it where they knew what they could get what they needed. And when they find it, they my my turkeys are in my food plots just about every day.
SPEAKER_03Um and you know, I I don't think there's a scientific study to prove that, but when you think about it, it it makes a lot of sense. So when when plants grow really fast, um calcium doesn't move as quickly through the plant tissue, like the the blossom end rot spray, you spray on your tomatoes. That's a calcium foliar fertilizer. Uh when those plants are growing so fast uh in layman's terms, it's hard for that calcium to get all the way to the end of that blossom and into that tomato. And so by f applying it foliarly, you're getting it where it needs to be. Um and it makes a lot of sense on your theory, Mac, that uh that's at a time of year when the plants are growing incredibly fast and it's hard to get that calcium to that growing tip of of the vegetation.
SPEAKER_02So I don't know. I'd we'd I'd lean to the good doctor to research this. Oh, right. I mean, this is all just kind of theorizing. I'll bet you more meaningful than that is that it is so attractive to the bugs. There's nothing more nutritious than those bugs. Sure. To a hen trying to nest, a pole when they're born. I mean, to a goblin in spring craving some protein, uh, I'll bet you anything if they did research on that as the cycles of spring progress, that the biggest benefit was being more attractive to more bugs. But who knows?
SPEAKER_06Yep, yeah. Land, you look like you had a question.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I was just um I'd love to understand. I I think, you know, with traditional fertilizers and root systems, just to understand what you were talking about, the stomata and how these plants actually absorb these nutrients.
SPEAKER_04Leaves on a plant are kind of like a sponge. So whatever gets on those leaves is going directly into the plant. So, you know, it has the stomata openings that allow oxygen to get into the plant, or it's uh oxygen to get out, carbon dioxide to come in and everything else. So spraying the liquid on there allows it to go directly into the plant system that way. It's kind of like getting an IV. You know, you're putting it directly on the plant and it's going directly into the plant versus getting in the soil, melting, moving through the soil to the root, and coming up in it that way.
SPEAKER_07And you were talking about it better to apply in the morning because those tomatoes are open. Right. And they'll close, I guess, under stress or something. Under stress, they'll get it late in the evening and they will close.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's why herbicides don't work sometimes when it when under stress like that. Cool.
SPEAKER_04A lot of people will actually mix a little liquid fertilizer in with their weed killers. Yeah, it makes it makes it a little bit more. Because it will piggyback on that fertilizer molecule and it'll it'll bring it to r into the plant a lot faster.
SPEAKER_02That's how we the um that's why we mix those products with the the the formula we use now.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. And and how many times AMS, isn't that what that does?
SPEAKER_02It is the ammonium sulfur. Ammonium sulfur is a little bit more. AMS does the same thing, doesn't it, basically?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's makes it hotter, I've always been trying to Yeah, it's like you're feeding your plant so it's able to take in more, but it you know, it's also helping the water. Right.
SPEAKER_06Uh yeah, so well that brings up a question. Does that does the fertilizer need any type of surfactant or a water conditioner?
SPEAKER_04Um it doesn't need it. It doesn't hurt to use use it sometimes if you want it to stay on the plant longer. Um but then sometimes you do get a chemical burn if it stays on the on the plant too long. So it it if you use a surfactant, I wouldn't use a whole lot. But now soybeans have a you know kind of a waxier leaf and it wouldn't hurt to have a little surfactant on the soybeans themselves, but other than that, for most plants you don't really need it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I I think at the low rate that surfactant is included in in some of the herbicides, uh, and if you follow the recommend recommendation on the label, it's really what, usually half of one percent of the total solution. It's a small amount. Okay. Right. So especially if you're using lake water or something, you won't you definitely want to treat the water with a conditioner or a surfactant before or the nitrogen before you were to add something like this. Right. To lessen the chance of it clumping up, or you know, if you were going to come back a couple weeks later and use it again, uh it would keep it from reducing its effectiveness.
SPEAKER_06We we've had really good luck with that hell in a product quest at being a water conditioner.
SPEAKER_07How often can you apply this?
SPEAKER_04You could actually apply it every couple weeks if you want to, but you know, it'll last two, two and a half months before you really need to reapply it. Um the way I judge on mine is when my deer quit eating my food plot, I know it's time to spray. Time to spray again. When I go to getting just a few pictures a day versus a couple hundred, I know I got to do it. You'd go out there and time dress it.
SPEAKER_06He didn't have the right food plot plant.
SPEAKER_04He had gotten a just a you know three seed mix from the from the feed stores, rye wheat and a clover or something in there with it. And he was he's got a feeder in each of his food plots, and I knew he had planted food plots because I heard him, he's actually my dad's neighbor. And uh I run into him and he said that you know he is he was feeding two pallets a week of corn. And with corn being what it is right now, you know, this was two years ago. And it it was eight dollars a bag then or seven fifty somewhere along in there. And uh I told him, I said, Well, are they eating your food plots? And he said, No, man, they're like 12, 14 inches tall. And I said, Let me spray one of your food plots with our with our plot mix. I said, if the deer don't eat your food plot and quit eating the corn as much, you won't owe me nothing. I said, But if I get it right and they eat your food plot, you're gonna pay me to spray the rest of them. And he agreed, you know. And uh so I sprayed it on a Wednesday morning. He texted me on Saturday and he said he had sixteen deer in his food plot eating that had been in there for forty-five minutes and not not a single one had gone to the feeder yet. Because they're getting what they need. Yeah, they know what they need. You know, they'll stand there and eat corn all day long if you feed it to 'em. But if they got something else that they'd rather have and they're getting what they need, they'll eat that first. Yeah, what's more nutritious to them for sure.
SPEAKER_06So, Chris, talk about so a guy's got a twenty-five-gallon sprayer, he buys a jug of the fertilizer. Tell him about l let's explain how they go about calibrating their sprayer.
SPEAKER_04It is it important because and and sprayer calibration is probably what I spend most of my time on the phone with customers about. They'll say, Man, I got a 25-gallon tank. Okay. I've got a two-gallon a minute pump. How much fertilizer do I need to put in there? Well, how much water are you putting out per acre? Well, I don't know. I got a 25-gallon tank.
SPEAKER_06Well, so how do they know?
SPEAKER_04Well, you have to do a calibration test and and you know, there's you can put a bucket under your nozzle on your sprayer.
SPEAKER_06Let me hang on. So if if it says it's five gallons a minute, I can't uh does that help me figure anything out?
SPEAKER_04No.
SPEAKER_06And and then that's five gallons a minute is through that pump. It's not through the nozzles or that's compressed. You were explaining this to me right now. Right, right.
SPEAKER_04You know, it says five gallons per minute, that's no pressure running through the pump. Well, you know, if you change your nozzles, different sprayer tips, put out, you know, some may put out three-tenths of a gallon per minute, some may put out ten, you know, or or a gallon a minute, or you know, maybe one tenth of a gallon, depending on what sprayer is. And then the other thing is your pressure. And, you know, obviously at 50 psi you're gonna be putting out more liquid than you would at 10 or 20 psi. And, you know, an easy way to do it is fill your sprayer full of water, measure out a half acre or quarter acre, run over it, see how much water you use, and and and run over that acre or quarter acre, half whatever you're spraying at the same speed and and the same way that you would spray your your food plot. You know, you don't want to run out there do your calibration test at four miles per hour and then go out there and spray your food plot at eight. Because then you're gonna be getting half the amount of of liquid and and fertilizer on your food plot as you need. Right. So if you run over a quarter acre and see how much time it took to do that, and then how much water you use, you multiply that by four, it will tell you how many gallons per acre you're putting out. And that's that's the easiest way to do it. If you're good in math, you can measure out a hundred feet, see how long it takes you to drive a hundred feet, how wide a spray pattern you are, spraying, multiply that by one hundred, divide it into forty-three thousand five hundred and sixty square feet in an acre, go back and then see how much time it took to to run over that hundred feet, collect the water coming out of the nozzle that fat for that amount of time, see how much it was. Let's not be ridiculous. Let's just not be spray a quarter acre and see how much we used.
SPEAKER_03So, you know, fill your tank up with water and drive around in a known area. Correct. So just burn a couple of hours practicing and and figuring it out. So is more water per acre better with this?
SPEAKER_04Well, you you want to try to have at least 10 to 12 gallons per water per acre with with you know with it. So you're putting out, you know, 13, 15 gallons of water per acre total uh with the fertilizer and water together is a good mix. If you go up to 25, it's not a big issue. Um you know, you get into how much water you're actually putting out, you know, if you've got a fill it up with a five-gallon bucket, obviously you want to be putting out fifteen gallons of water instead of twenty-five. But if you've got access to water, I I I spray myself at twenty-five gallons per acre. And I'll put two, two and a half gallons of fertilizer in there, fill it up with water and go spray. And I I run at four miles an hour, and I know that at that speed and running 40 psi on my sprayer, I'm putting out twenty-five gallons per acre. If you put a 40 gallon sprayer on the back of a four-wheeler and you fill it up with water, you know, that's 3500. 320 pounds, 320, whatever it is. Uh, it's been a long day. So uh, you know, when you put that much weight on the back of a four-wheeler, if you're on flat level ground, it's not a problem. But you start up a hill, it's it's gonna rare up.
SPEAKER_07It's gonna splash out.
SPEAKER_04Well, it may splash out, but I'd I'd I'd rather get wet than the four-wheeler tip over. So, you know, 15 to 25 gallon tank on a four-wheeler is is twenty-five's max.
SPEAKER_07Mm-hmm. I agree.
SPEAKER_04Um side by side, sixty gallons on a side by side a load. Yeah, I've got a forty on mine, and when I fill it up, it it knows it's there. And you know, technically it would total sixty, but you know, that's just a lot of weight. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Dudley, have you got another question? Um we had talked about spraying these on, you know, like wildflowers and correct things like that. Um do you think the uh clover version or the food plot version would work better for just spraying it on native vegetation?
SPEAKER_04Uh the food plot. Okay, because you know it's got a little nitrogen. It's got a little nitrogen in there. And and we designed it that way because so many of the food plot mixes actually have clover in them. So we didn't want to make the clover sick, but we wanted to provide the other plants with the nitrogen that they're needed. So spraying the food plot on the native vegetation, anything that you spray it on, the deer are gonna smell that calcium in there and they it's gonna taste better to them, and they're gonna key in on that. And you know, with with fertilizer prices being what they are, you know, if you've got an area that's got good forage in it, you can go in and spray that and not have a food plot. Because I have customers that that don't have food plots or don't have room for food plots, or they're hunting on a piece of property that they can't put a food plot in, and they'll go in and spray the vegetation on the side of the roads or whatever, and you know, yeah, I bet you could go through some fifth row thin pavements.
SPEAKER_03Exactly, exactly. Uh like some some uh timber company land that they don't let you do anything on, you know. Uh no food plotting and no burning, and so that might be a good opportunity when they get done thinning, you can go in and make it better. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06So what really sold me on this whole thing years ago was the the fact that these high-end golf courses rely so much on this. And you know, and you you you see these and they're s they're beautiful. And a lot of what's being done is those early mornings, they're they're foliar plying fertilizer.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. We have we have courses throughout the Southeast that are using our products, PGA tour courses that that use it uh weekly. And they do that because they don't have time to wait two, three, four weeks for the granular to get into the soil and get into the plants. You know, if they s if they see something, they need to be able to correct it instantly because you know if some of the people that play golf don't like the cour what they see on the course, then the superintendent's looking for a new job because they're usually uh vocal. Oh yeah. And that's that's why I I kept pushing my father-in-law for us to make something for food plots because I seen how it was doing on the golf courses and and how how well it worked on the grass.
SPEAKER_06Sure. Well so is there something we should be asking you that we haven't asked yet? I have no idea. Y'all have asked so much. Toxie, do you have another question for him? Lanny. Uh Lanny's emailing somebody.
SPEAKER_07I'm looking at stomatos, you know.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so so Lanny learned a new word today.
SPEAKER_07Well, it's the one that I I was familiar with through plant biology, but I hadn't thought about it in a while.
SPEAKER_06So stomata, stomato, stomata.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. Potato potato.
SPEAKER_03And it, you know, what I researched on it is it's not just a stomata. There's just other other parts of the leaf surface that, you know, and it depends on the species and the stems and the hairs. Whether it's a waxy surface or not, and all kinds of cool stuff. The fact of the matter is, is it it can enter through the leaf surface.
SPEAKER_04Exactly. The biggest thing is it's so much more efficient than your granular. You know, within a couple hours, eighty to ninety percent of the fertilizer is actually in the plant and working. And then the other is it takes a small amount to get a lot of results, and because of that, it's a lot cheaper than of course your granular fertilizers right now, which it will not replace the granulars, but you still need to maintain your soil, but it's it's something that can really benefit the plants in a hurry and benefit the wildlife as well.
SPEAKER_06That makes sense. And so if you if a guy sprays in the morning by the time he's eating lunch, it's in that plant and working. It's in that plant working usually by the time he's to the other side of the field.
SPEAKER_04Wow. Good stuff.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. All right, guys. Well, I don't know what else to ask. So we've got the the the liquid clover fertilizer, and then we've got a version that's a liquid food, so an all-purpose plant fertilizer. And so guys, it if if I understand it right, I mean this at at two g at two gallons per acre. This is uh this is pretty simple.
SPEAKER_02It is, and one thing I would encourage people to do if you're into what we're if as we say, if you're picking up what we were putting down here, if you're a gamekeeper and you uh go prove it to yourself. So, you know, before you, you know, you buy a bunch of stuff and go spray, you know, whatever, 30 acres of food plots, uh test it yourself. Learn for yourself and there's no better way to know what you're dealing with than go do, you know, and and test side by side. I I especially would encourage people to try some for bow season. Uh I think they'll be shocked at how effective it could be.
SPEAKER_04We've we've actually had customers that that did just that. They bought a gallon to start with. That's right. And they sprayed a strip down the center of the field and then they watched the deer come in the field and walk over where they didn't spray and go eat where they did spray. Or, you know, in a couple of days' time where they sprayed two or three inches tall and where they didn't is eight or ten inches tall. And of course, with this, you know, you're not gonna see 12, 14-inch high food plot. If I see that, that tells me that the deer are not eating it. With this, one of my buddies said we needed to put a warning label on it because they're gonna they're gonna attack it and and mow it down.
SPEAKER_03You know what came to mind is our velvet season. Oh, yeah. That's exactly where I've been.
SPEAKER_07I thought about that when he first came in and started talking about it. Don't tell Michael Wayne.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, so Mississippi for the first time ever, it's got uh what is it uh early velvet season. And when is it? Is it? It's three days, middle of September. Yeah, middle of September something.
SPEAKER_07Around the 17th or 18th, something.
SPEAKER_06That's gonna be exciting. Interesting. Well, look, this has been fascinating. Look, well don't leave. We've we want to ask you a trivia question, then we want you to stay. Dudley's got a question that he answers. So you don't make me look bad. No, no, that's not our intent at all. So nobody has ever gotten one wrong. Actually it is. So here's the deal. You're gonna ask and we're gonna ask you a question. You're gonna answer, and you're playing for one of our listeners that left a review. Okay. And uh so if you get the question right, they win uh this Game Keeper Sprayer. It's worth like 400 something. Why don't we give them some fertilizer to go with it? Oh, that's a good one. And you will ship you well, you were nice enough to say I'll ship them some fertilizer. So that that's awesome. So a lot of pressure. Mac, why don't you uh ask him the question?
SPEAKER_05I can do that in the Mississippi Velvet season is September the 16th through the 18th. There you go.
SPEAKER_03Hey, uh can I take off those days? No.
SPEAKER_05You're going to anyway. Who's gonna be here? Why'd you even?
SPEAKER_07Who's gonna be here? Duddy, somebody's gonna be here.
SPEAKER_05So the question is what is largely considered to be the fastest and most robust bone development organs in the animal kingdom?
SPEAKER_04A deer's horns or rack or whatever you call them. There you go.
SPEAKER_02Well, that took almost a half a second. Yeah, that was too fat. We've got to get tougher questions. Antlers in now. We want our listeners to win the prize.
SPEAKER_05Well, that's true. And so the winner this week is Tucky 08.
SPEAKER_07Tucky 08. Yeah, what was his how did his review go?
SPEAKER_02Tucky.
SPEAKER_07I don't think he wanted to hear as much of you.
SPEAKER_02That sounds like a southern gentleman saying, I'm not killed nice long bed Tucky this morning. Tucky, Ticky.
SPEAKER_07Now, what'd he say?
SPEAKER_05All right. He said, uh, these guys are like hanging out with smart buddies. I feel like we're best friends and I learn something new every week. Highly recommended hanging out with the gamekeeper.
SPEAKER_06Oh, that's it.
SPEAKER_03Air hug. Yeah.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. How about that? So, Tucky, you need to get in touch with us. You've won a fabulous prize. No doubt about it. This one's next year. He might be from Kentucky. That might be what's going on there. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_02Uh, you know, well, it could be from South Alabama too, and just talking about Tucky if you'd like Kentucky, huh?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it could be. Yep, Chris is nodding his head like he totally understood that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_06So don't leave that. This is a pretty we we always hand the steering wheel over to Dudley and he answers the question somebody's. All right, Dudley.
SPEAKER_03All right, you want me to read it or Matt? Do you want to read it?
SPEAKER_05I can read it.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_05Give you time to think about your answer.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_05Dudley. It looks like it's kind of like stretching over there.
SPEAKER_07This one's lengthy. Last week was a killer.
SPEAKER_05It is.
SPEAKER_07Last week was eight minutes long.
SPEAKER_05The question or the response?
SPEAKER_06The response was eight minutes long. It was a good one, though.
SPEAKER_05All right. Dudley, I'm trying to get in uh to this wait, let me redo that.
SPEAKER_07Mark Tad timecode, Richie.
SPEAKER_05Dudley, I'm trying to get into this new to me early successional habitat game at my 227-acre farm in north central Kentucky. Could he not be more specific?
SPEAKER_07Sorry, that was a I'm with him on this early successional habitat. This is really interesting.
SPEAKER_05That's not even the end of the sentence. No first sentence. But however, but I don't think I want to take out any food pot acreage for this. Attach or some picks. What do you suggest? I'm getting some other opinions, but wanted to know yours. My goals are deer and turkey like most everyone else. But after hearing the Quail podcast, I'm having in having less than stellar turkey season this past couple years. I'm wanting to do more for the birds. Based on what I'm reading, this based on what I'm reading, this cover will also benefit the deer. Thoughts, thanks in advance, August.
SPEAKER_07That's a gamekeeper right there, man. He's thinking about it.
SPEAKER_03Jeez. All right. To summarize, August wants to get into this early successional habitat game on his land. I was talking to David Hawley about it. It is. A lot of people are picking up on it. Yes.
SPEAKER_07I think about it all the time.
SPEAKER_03Change, I guess, is going on in the in the hunting and habitat world. And so he doesn't want to take up his food plot space to put in a bunch of wildflowers or you know let some stuff just grow. And so he sent some picks and what I saw was a lot of rolling terrain. The fields were down in the creek bottoms, the food plots. What I noticed was a lot of overhead green cover on the ridgetops, which in that part of the country I've hunted up there a couple of times. Well, if you think back about three or four hundred years ago, all of that stuff was burning every year and there weren't any cedars there to begin with. Or they had, you know, retreated just to the edges. So those were wildflowers and grasses a long time ago. So my thought, August, would be if you can install a fire lane like around some of these ridgetops and ridges and start burning them. Cedars hate fire and they'll they'll start dying back. And then areas where the cedars are really small, you could hire one of those mulch crews or even cut areas down your steps. Or again, yeah, hire a logger. If you've got larger areas of cedars, you can sell cedar. And I know in in a lot of parts of that part of country, you you know you've got big enough cedars to sell. And so that's what I would do. And that's not as productive soils, but that's the habitat where a lot of this ecosystem took place. The grasses and wildflowers and things occupied the poorer sites that may be a little bit drier, and then you had your trees and forests down in the drainages in the bottoms. And so that's my thought is leave your food plots, you know, if you want to do some of that edge feathering where you're cutting down some of these encroaching hardwoods on the edges of your fields and let that grow up in early successional stuff, then do that as well. But uh yeah, you've got a lot of monoculture cedars that isn't housing much at all. And if you can get rid of that and let some of that early successional stuff grow and or plant some wildflowers and grasses, go for it.
SPEAKER_08Thank you, Mr. Know It All.
SPEAKER_03That's a good one.
SPEAKER_02I couldn't agree more. I make it really simple. I mean, that's by far the best advice, but just I wouldn't mess with the food plots and just get somebody who knows what they're doing, do some select cutting in the areas Dudley's talking about. But don't don't give up a food plot to do it. There's no need for that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I mean you may have a you may have a neighbor getting 200 acres clear cut. Well, while they're there, go ask them and say, hey, I've got these two 15-acre areas. Since your equipment's here, can you give me more?
SPEAKER_02Well, Dudley's device is going to give you way better early success in the habitat you're looking for than giving up a food plot will. Sure. You know?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Look look at the aerial stuff at your farm and find some of these areas that aren't as productive. These ridgetops, these, you know, uh login decks, things like that.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03Ridgetop roads when you're getting your pines thin. Uh take out a few rows of pines on these ridgetops and make them make them long, narrow openings. That's where you can do a lot of things.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and you're actually making money doing this by you know, it's it's not that hard to harvest timber and make your place a better wildlife place.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_02Really. It's not, you know. But with Dudley's, you're doing it by prescription instead of just by chance, you know. Right.
SPEAKER_03Good stuff. Good stuff.
SPEAKER_07Yes, absolutely. Great question, great answer. Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_03So uh thanks, August. Well, good luck.
SPEAKER_06So if guys, if guys want to ask Dudley a question, where do they go, Mac? How does that how does that work?
SPEAKER_05Uh you t you text message Dudley at 662.
SPEAKER_07He's available 24 hours a day.
SPEAKER_05So Dudley, you should publish Mac's number for that.
SPEAKER_07Hey, we're gonna we're gonna create some kind of landing page.
SPEAKER_05Um you can go to native nurseries uh installed.
SPEAKER_03Nursery Nursery at Mossyok.com.
SPEAKER_07Biologic at Mossyok.com. Yep.
SPEAKER_03Or 662-494-4326. That's our number here at the office.
SPEAKER_06Okay, good. Well, folks, I hope you'll ask. I mean, he's we he's really good with this. He takes a lot of time for preparing his answer. So he does a good job. Yeah, he does. Thank you, Doug. It's very nice. I think it's only been about five. Yeah, is that right? Well it feels like longer than that. I wouldn't know how to take that apart.
SPEAKER_04I'm trying to figure that one out now. But it it has been a it's been a pleasure being here and it's been a lot of fun. And and once again just thank y'all for the opportunity to be associated with such a great company. Well thank you. You know, when somebody sees biologic on something, they know that it's good. And with the lot of the products on the market out here, you can't always say that. But y'all have a y'all have a great reputation and it's it's a an honor to be involved with a company that that has a reputation like you have.
SPEAKER_06Well, thank you so much. We we do work at it for sure.
SPEAKER_02We have a great team. I will say a postlude to this um podcast and having you here, if there's ever been a year that you I said something earlier about test a product we have, this is a great year to do this. And because I think it's gonna it may help you chart the course for the future and being more effective and cost effective both on your property.
SPEAKER_03You know, yeah, just get a jug and play with it. Make some random stripes through your food plots and remember where you did it and come back two weeks later and see what it looks like. Yeah, I don't think you'll have to remember.
SPEAKER_02Do it and throw a camera up when you get through spraying it and just watch, you know.
SPEAKER_04That's that's one of the things that I tell people, and I believe I told y'all the same thing when we started, is you know, put a camera out the week before you spray the fertilizer, see how many pictures you get, spray the fertilizer and see how many more you get the week after. And you know, we've had people go from 30 pictures the first week to eight, nine hundred, a thousand pictures after they spray. And you know, that's not because anything changed other than the plants taste better.
SPEAKER_06So, Chris, do you think looking at a crystal ball, do you think the fertilizer is gonna stay at the at a high price or get higher in the next year? Any way of knowing?
SPEAKER_04It's gonna it's gonna continue to go up. Um a majority of the fertilizer components come from Ukraine and Russia, which with their things that are going on now, um that's gonna can continue to be an issue. And then also a lot of the nitrogen products come from petroleum production. And with our current petroleum issues and supply being decreased, uh things have to go up. Our our components to make the products with have tripled in price in the last two years. And they're telling us that it's still gonna continue to go up. So, you know, it's it's it's gonna be higher, and of course, with the dollar losing value daily, you know, it's gonna take more to get the same thing.
SPEAKER_06All right, well, that's depressing. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But uh but one other quick we didn't say how long is this shelf stable?
SPEAKER_04How long will it last? We've got product that we made six years ago that still look as good as today as it did when we made it. Stock up now. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, good point.
SPEAKER_06Uh we'll honor our price if got today, if guys will for today.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, that's that's the other thing. We used to call and get price on material, you know, six months out, and now they're giving us a price from day to day. Yeah. And you know, it's it's sounds like the seed business back then a lot of those right now. Along with I think it's even worse. Along with pricing is is actually getting the material hauled to make it.
SPEAKER_07That diesel fuel is expensive.
SPEAKER_03Well, slightly off subject, but you know, one thing we can do to battle that is uh by our our practices. You know, we've our blends have clovers and you know different, you know, you hear about all this regenerative ag. Uh well that's uh those organic farming practices have have been around for a long time. They've just kind of put a new name on it. But you know, these food plots we're planting are more or less cover crops and they're they're returning nutrients back to the soil. So we can just get better at at those practices that are improving our soils, then that that'll help a lot.
SPEAKER_07That's the long-term answer for sure. Sure is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yep.
SPEAKER_06All right, guys, it's been fun. Yeah, this is a good one. Number 96. And guys, remember to go to uh the website there and uh try to win a prize. 2010. 2010 that I accidentally guessed right. Yeah, yeah. How about that? So yeah, I should trust my guts more. I don't know. Yeah, you know what my guts are telling me about you right now? All right, guys. Mac, you got anything? Richie, are you awake? All right. Good to know that you're over there. Well, thank you. Why don't you say goodbye, Dudley? Goodbye, Dudley. Get us out of here, Mac Mac.
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