{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":10.71,"endTime":12.645,"body":"Well, hello with gratitude Matt listeners,"},{"startTime":12.645,"endTime":15.949,"body":"my name is Matt Murray and I'm the host"},{"startTime":12.645,"endTime":15.949,"body":"for the With Gratitude Matt Show."},{"startTime":16.85,"endTime":20.487,"body":"Our goal with the With Gratitude Matt Show"},{"startTime":16.85,"endTime":20.487,"body":"is to inspire our eliciting audience"},{"startTime":20.787,"endTime":25.225,"body":"to practice gratitude"},{"startTime":20.787,"endTime":25.225,"body":"regardless of how powerful their storm is."},{"startTime":25.458,"endTime":28.795,"body":"We've learned that the practice"},{"startTime":25.458,"endTime":28.795,"body":"of gratitude works much like a muscle."},{"startTime":29.129,"endTime":32.332,"body":"The more you use it, the stronger"},{"startTime":29.129,"endTime":32.332,"body":"it becomes."},{"startTime":32.732,"endTime":35.402,"body":"I'm so delighted to have today's"},{"startTime":32.732,"endTime":35.402,"body":"guest on the show."},{"startTime":35.635,"endTime":39.572,"body":"Today's guest is John Danna Miller,"},{"startTime":35.635,"endTime":39.572,"body":"a high school classmate of mine."},{"startTime":40.14,"endTime":42.942,"body":"When we were juniors in high school,"},{"startTime":40.14,"endTime":42.942,"body":"I did not realize that"},{"startTime":42.942,"endTime":46.713,"body":"John was diagnosed"},{"startTime":42.942,"endTime":46.713,"body":"with ulcerative colitis."},{"startTime":46.946,"endTime":49.983,"body":"He brought that to my attention recently"},{"startTime":46.946,"endTime":49.983,"body":"when we reconnected."},{"startTime":50.35,"endTime":52.952,"body":"John has three beautiful children"},{"startTime":53.253,"endTime":56.823,"body":"and he is planning his wedding to Lisa"},{"startTime":53.253,"endTime":56.823,"body":"within the next year."},{"startTime":57.023,"endTime":61.061,"body":"John is a graduate of Notre Dame"},{"startTime":57.023,"endTime":61.061,"body":"University in South Bend, Indiana,"},{"startTime":61.261,"endTime":63.93,"body":"and I'm"},{"startTime":61.261,"endTime":63.93,"body":"so delighted to welcome John to the show."},{"startTime":64.164,"endTime":66.566,"body":"John, welcome to the show."},{"startTime":66.566,"endTime":68.568,"body":"Thanks, Matt. 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