{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":10.443,"endTime":12.379,"body":"Well, hello with gratitude Matt listeners,"},{"startTime":12.379,"endTime":15.915,"body":"my name is Matt Murray and I'm the host"},{"startTime":12.379,"endTime":15.915,"body":"for the With Gratitude Matt Show."},{"startTime":15.915,"endTime":19.719,"body":"Our goal with this show"},{"startTime":15.915,"endTime":19.719,"body":"is to inspire our listeners to practice"},{"startTime":19.719,"endTime":23.49,"body":"gratitude regardless of how powerful"},{"startTime":19.719,"endTime":23.49,"body":"their storm is."},{"startTime":23.49,"endTime":27.26,"body":"I've learned that the practice"},{"startTime":23.49,"endTime":27.26,"body":"of gratitude works much like a muscle."},{"startTime":27.494,"endTime":30.497,"body":"The more you use it, the stronger"},{"startTime":27.494,"endTime":30.497,"body":"it becomes."},{"startTime":30.83,"endTime":34.567,"body":"I'm so delighted to introduce you to"},{"startTime":30.83,"endTime":34.567,"body":"today's guests, Tom and Stephanie."},{"startTime":34.667,"endTime":39.606,"body":"Well, they are the proud parents"},{"startTime":34.667,"endTime":39.606,"body":"of four Eric, Jack, Tyler and Adam."},{"startTime":39.606,"endTime":42.609,"body":"They range in age from 15 to 33."},{"startTime":43.076,"endTime":45.879,"body":"All of their boys are accomplished"},{"startTime":43.076,"endTime":45.879,"body":"athletes."},{"startTime":45.879,"endTime":49.416,"body":"It's not surprising"},{"startTime":45.879,"endTime":49.416,"body":"if you knew the athletic success"},{"startTime":49.416,"endTime":52.819,"body":"that Tom and Stephanie"},{"startTime":49.416,"endTime":52.819,"body":"appreciated in their youth."},{"startTime":53.486,"endTime":59.392,"body":"However, on September the 20th of 2001,"},{"startTime":53.486,"endTime":59.392,"body":"their lives changed forever."},{"startTime":59.426,"endTime":62.662,"body":"Their son"},{"startTime":59.426,"endTime":62.662,"body":"Jack died of a fentanyl overdose."},{"startTime":63.063,"endTime":65.231,"body":"Jack was an all-American kid."},{"startTime":65.231,"endTime":68.101,"body":"He loved sports and excelled in school."},{"startTime":68.101,"endTime":72.839,"body":"Jack was a National Honor"},{"startTime":68.101,"endTime":72.839,"body":"Society recipient and a National Merit"},{"startTime":72.839,"endTime":76.309,"body":"scholar at Moeller High School"},{"startTime":72.839,"endTime":76.309,"body":"in Cincinnati, Ohio."},{"startTime":76.643,"endTime":81.181,"body":"He earned an academic scholarship"},{"startTime":76.643,"endTime":81.181,"body":"to study at USC."},{"startTime":81.781,"endTime":84.451,"body":"Tom and Stephanie and their family."},{"startTime":84.451,"endTime":88.721,"body":"Rallied together to start"},{"startTime":84.451,"endTime":88.721,"body":"do it for Jack Foundation."},{"startTime":89.222,"endTime":94.127,"body":"Today they do it for Jack"},{"startTime":89.222,"endTime":94.127,"body":"Foundation is educating youth"},{"startTime":94.127,"endTime":99.232,"body":"and parents on the risk of drug abuse,"},{"startTime":94.127,"endTime":99.232,"body":"particularly fentanyl,"},{"startTime":99.466,"endTime":104.37,"body":"and helping others avoid the tragedy"},{"startTime":99.466,"endTime":104.37,"body":"that the Quayle family experi."},{"startTime":104.604,"endTime":108.041,"body":"In 2021, you'll be so amazed"},{"startTime":108.041,"endTime":112.712,"body":"by Tom and Stephanie"},{"startTime":108.041,"endTime":112.712,"body":"how they've embraced this foundation"},{"startTime":112.946,"endTime":115.949,"body":"and are sharing their story"},{"startTime":112.946,"endTime":115.949,"body":"and experiences with other."},{"startTime":116.082,"endTime":119.085,"body":"Tom. 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