Pig & Whistle Tales - A World of Warcraft Podcast

The Impact of Banning GDKP Runs and the Level 25 Underdog Warrior in World of Warcraft

January 31, 2024 Gabriel Season 3 Episode 86
Pig & Whistle Tales - A World of Warcraft Podcast
The Impact of Banning GDKP Runs and the Level 25 Underdog Warrior in World of Warcraft
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Is the allure of gold influencing your decision to join a World of Warcraft raid? Let's uncover the impact of Blizzard's recent decision to ban GDKP runs on the WoW community. As your host, I dissect the mechanics behind these gold-based loot auctions and share firsthand how this change disrupts the in-game economy and player dynamics. Feelings run high as some adventurers lament the loss of a lucrative incentive while others worry about the social consequences of bailing on raids early. Hear out the varied voices from the frontlines and join the discussion on how the pursuit of virtual wealth might be reshaping the landscape of sportsmanship and enjoyment in Azeroth.

Meanwhile, the warrior class is turning heads in PvE with feats that defy their level and gear. Can a level 25 warrior truly outshine their fully-equipped brethren? I'll break down this peculiar phenomenon and offer insights on harnessing the untapped power of the warrior class. Tune in as we also celebrate the community that keeps our discussions lively and the adventures rolling. We're here to connect, share tips, and laugh together through every twist and turn in the game. Remember to swing by our social media after the show – there's a trove of content waiting for you on TikTok, Twitch, and YouTube. Keep your swords sharp and your spirits high until our next epic encounter!

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Speaker 1:

Sugar RED nome. We're here. Hello and welcome to the Pick and Whistle Towers from Azeroth. As always here at the Pick and Whistle Inn in Stormwind, I go for a variety of subjects in regards to World of Warcraft. A gravel bottle or a pine, sit back and enjoy.

Speaker 1:

This midweek will be going over something that is very important to people in WoW at the moment and that is GDKPs and mostly what people think about it on the forums, plus maybe a little bit of extra stuff on the side. But let's get straight into this, because GDKPs, if you are unaware, are gold buying raids essentially. So not gold buying raids, sorry, but item buying raids for gold. So you get your group of ten in Season of Discovery in Rafa, the Lich King group of twenty-five. If you twenty-five man raid, Essentially, you go in, you kill a boss and the items that it drops is put up for bidding and you bid on this item, say a hundred gold. That's obviously a lot more, but I'm going to simplify the gold and the numbers a hundred gold, and you give that to the raid leader who then gives you the item and that's the transaction At the end of the raid. So after all of the bosses have been killed. We'll say that the raid leader has ten thousand gold, yeah, between a ten man raid. What he then does is he splits the gold between the raiders. He might take a cup for himself, like an extra cup for organising the raid, and raid leader in it, so he might take fifteen percent. He takes one thousand five hundred gold and everyone else gets the split of eight thousand five hundred. And that's what a GDKP is. So, essentially, you're spending gold but making gold at the same time, if that makes any sense. So that's how GDKPs work. Now, what Blizzard have recently done I think as of yesterday from when this episode comes out, it's yesterday or two days ago, kind of in between that you know void, they have banned GDKPs. They have made it against TOS to do a GDKP raid, just like buying gold from a third party vendor. You cannot buy items using gold in game. It is against TOS, not at the moment, bear that in mind. Not at the moment. February 8th, I believe, is the final day in which you can do this. It's whenever Phase Two of Season of Discovery comes out is when the TOS is updated and they ban GDKPs. So these are some of the best forum posts that have been posted in the meantime.

Speaker 1:

Okay, just leave PUD runs if your gear doesn't drop. It is what it is. If we can't do GDKPs and our bis slash near bis toons get nothing out the run, why completed? If our gear doesn't drop, or we got the item or didn't win the roll, there's nothing in it for me to stay in a PUD run If what I need is on the second boss and nothing on the third, fourth, fifth and sixth. I'm out If I'm. If not, that I could just all. I could always just hard reserve the gear I want. If that doesn't drop, I could always just leave or pocket gear that people didn't roll on, or D vendor, e, e slash vendor. Plus it takes the greens as well.

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I get nothing out of staying in a pug run or even going to a pug run if I'm this. Okay, you get nothing out of it if you're best in slot anyway because you're not gearing your character, but it is what it is. I understand that he gets gold for doing and PDK peas, but I mean there's only so much gold can do for you in the game, like once you've maxed out professions and stuff, you don't really need the gold, do you? People put so much value on gold. It is hilarious like, yes, it's nice to have, it's a nicer extra thing to have in the game because you can use it to buy profession stuff and All of that. But you can just farm this stuff. It really doesn't take that long. But people put way too much emphasis on gold in the game and I Get that. Some people want to buy like wow tokens with it for game time and that's completely understandable. I really do.

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Firstly, if you do this to pug runs and you just leave if the server is right and the server has a discord and the discord is monitored quite well, you will eventually be put on a blacklist and the blacklist is essentially when people will know not to queue of you or let you into raids. So if you do this enough, people will be like, yeah, you're not joining because you're a dickhead, that's it. I'm on Paiwood Village On Raffa the Lich King and it's monitored very well. It's monitored very, very well and I know exactly who's on the blacklist, I know who isn't and it's easy to avoid these people and If you do this long enough, you will be put on that list. It depending on if yourself is good at keeping track of that or has a system of doing that, but you know it is what it is and if you choose to be a dick, then people are gonna be a dickhead to you.

Speaker 1:

Like it's simple common courtesy Just play the rain out. You're not there to make gold or get items. Well, you're there to get items, but just be a civilized human being. Like it really isn't that tough, is it? Like, just complete the raid. You should be doing the raid because you enjoy it, because you enjoy playing the game, you enjoy playing your character, not because, oh my god, I need loot and gold. That's the only reason no people play season the discovery and raft to an extent for the interaction with other people. And you know you're just being a dickhead if you do this. Please don't just have some common courtesy and you know, don't leave a raid and cry like an absolute baby if you don't get your item on the second boss and you don't need anything else. I understand that it's tempting to leave and no one can stop you. For sure, if you have problems as well, like you have to dip, like from a raid, like IRL problems they happen. But if you're doing it just out of oh well, my item didn't drop, I'm gonna go crying a corner and baby rage and then like why, why even join the raid? I've been a dick. That is ridiculous. Um yeah, so that's the first one. The second one is this raiding is dead and this is all from season of discovery form.

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As a guild leader who has ran four times each Reset for most of SOD, I'm perplexed. There is truly no reason to raid after farm now. So enjoy yourself, to have fun with your guild, to Experience the game and enjoy the game and this weird sort of sandbox world of Warcraft mode. You know there's nothing really to no reason to raid, is there? Once you're bis or near bis, your time is mathematically better spent PVPing or having fun. You should be having fun anyway. You should be having fun in raids anyway.

Speaker 1:

I hate raiding. I Absolutely hate raiding. I don't do it in retail. I didn't do it like ever in retail for out my 10 years before it got to what 2019 of playing well, and then I did molten core in classic and throughout you know Classic to ref the lich king. I've raided and I've enjoyed it, but that's because of the people that I've played with. I Enjoyed it because I enjoyed my class, I enjoyed talking to people during raid. Even in the 40 man Raids I, the guild I was with I can't stand them. I really can't they. Looking back on it, it wasn't the best guilt, but there were people in that guild that I talked to throughout the raids and I enjoyed my time talking to them and just had a Laugh, you know, and that's what I take from that and and it's meant to have fun. You're meant to have fun in raids. It's. It's not about doing a raid and then going to have fun. No, it's about having fun during the raids. And again, in ref the lich king, I enjoy my raiding experience because of the people that I'm with, the entire experience. Everyone that I play with in that guild is really like fun to play with and I enjoy the time spending with them, like on a Wednesday slash Sunday evening, like for a few hours, like it's. It's one of them things you're meant to have fun While raiding, not have fun after it, rather than doing boring 30 minute leveling raids.

Speaker 1:

The raid takes 30 minutes and he's complaining that he's not having, not trying to have fun in 30 minutes. Okay, he's gave me a reason to do two lockouts past then. That becoming this. Now I won't be doing that, which means I lose out on my income in game the thing that's paid for literally the entirety of my Phase one professions and consumes. Just go and farm some mats. It's really not tough.

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I haven't pulled gold at all, but I worry this ban hurts people, hurts players like me who aren't buying gold More than it does the gold buyers. The gold buyers will still buy. Now I'm just gonna be poor. Firstly, there'll be less gold buyers, for sure They'll be less gold buys and there's no form in which they can stop people buying gold and it not getting into the hands of other players who don't buy gold. For example, you might not buy gold, but one person in your GDP run might buy gold. So if they've bought this gold and then they buy every single item, you get some of that bought gold, which isn't good. That's not how it should work. That's not how the economy should work. The economy should work off of like people basically farming the mats themselves, selling it on the auction, stuff like that. But you have super inflated prices, most likely because of these GDPs and because people just ramp up the Like price of everything on season to discover a wrath. Stuff like that, like it makes no sense, like you're gonna be poor. Just go farm items. Now it sounds stupid, but You're on.

Speaker 1:

People put way too much emphasis on gold. Again, like, again, you have your level 25, you're a druid, you can go and farm whatever. You can stealth past mobs. You can go and farm sort of herbs. You can farm minerals. You can farm mobs for silk, cloth or even yet made. We've around that level, maybe potentially very low drop chance. Um, but yeah, you can farm like loads of stuff.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to be poor and being poor in phase one, a season of discovery, is literally having like one gold. If you have above 50 gold, like at level 25, you're not poor. You're like above average in terms of like how wealthy you are in the game, and 50 gold is not a lot. It's relatively achievable by everyone. You don't have to do GDPs for this. It's crazy. People put, people cry so much about this sort of thing, but ultimately people buy gold so that they can buy a gear in GDPs. You can't stop people buying gold without having to stop GDPs as well.

Speaker 1:

Now, I've been a fan of GDPs. I'm very impartial to it. I think that it's a cool way that people can gear their characters. I think it's very cool, nice way to make some gold as well if you want to. But I've said before, it's not ways in which it's not very much in your face, unless you're looking for it specifically. But again, I think it's an interesting idea to stop them on season of discovery only, by the way, on season of discovery only, and see how it goes, because it is meant to be classic and classic you're meant to be like kind of poor essentially. But you know, we'll see how it goes with GDPs. This is just one extra one which I thought I would add in just for the hell, the or the shits and giggles of it.

Speaker 1:

It's becoming clear that Blizzard will give nothing fun to warriors in C, s O, d, especially for arms. Where are the new abilities and significant changes, like other classes are getting? No colossus smash, no Bladestorm, no sudden death, no juggernaut, no second win, no mortal combo, no double time, no opportunity strike. Now this is the only post. What they said about season of discovery was they don't want to nerf warriors, they want to bring everyone up to the level of warriors. And if that doesn't tell you something about why warriors are getting these sort of utility buffs, such as the rallying cry, such as like other things. Then I don't know what to tell you, because warriors in the phase one of season of discovery are top of DPS meters. They are top, they're not bottom and need like buffing. They are top. Everything else is below them, you know. So they haven't.

Speaker 1:

Warriors still have it very good in season of discovery and warriors are still very much the same in end game of any sort of patch, they are going to be the best class because they scale best off of gear and they have raids every single patch. They have raised every single phase. So you have Blackfarm and DPS, then Noam Ragon and then Scarlet Monastery and then Karazhan Crypts. You know these are what the phases will be and warriors will scale with that and at level 60, warriors scale ridiculously anyway. So, like I don't know what to tell you, warriors are still very good. You're just wanting them to be even better and then they've got to scale everything else to be even better and then raids become trivial, like it's ridiculous, and people need to realize that their class is still very good.

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He's posting this on a level 25 under warrior as well. Like it's crazy. He needs to understand that he is one. He is the best class in the game right now for PvE content. It's ridiculous, but that is it for this episode. Thank you all very much for listening. As always, do check out all of the social medias down below Constant stuff happening on TikTok Twitch YouTube. But thank you all very much once again and go with our friend Goodbye.

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