THE PITT Season 1 - "2 PM" & "3 PM"

TV Heads, we've reached mid afternoon of TV's hottest show, The Pitt! As always, Ken and Lisa have lots to talk about. Collins ultrasounding herself. Favorite ships, and is anybody gonna kiss on this show? Are there any fluids left for Whittaker to be doused with??

Also, Ken is spoiled on a plot development ... and Lisa is spoiled on something else! 

Hosts: Lisa Carroll Tremblay and Ken Cornwell 
Producer: Cole T.

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Transcript

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What's it's going to be? My God!

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Okay, it's happening. What's the procedure? What's the procedure?

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Say my name. TV is awesome.

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You're goddamn right. Hello,

Hello TV Heads

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TV heads. Welcome back to TV is awesome. Everyone's favorite podcast about TV. And there is, there's uh, I mean, there's no dispute. It is everyone's favorite podcast about TV. I think we agree about that.

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I don't even think there's a contest.

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I don't think there's a contest. No. Uh I am your host, Ken. And as always, I'm here with my fantastic co-host, Lisa. Hello, Lisa. Hi, Ken. How are you? I'm okay. I'm hanging in there. That's right. I think we all are. I think we all are. Um, so we are in the middle of our epic watch of The Pit, which we're loving. And uh we're gonna get into that. But first,

Beverage of the Week

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uh Lisa, what are you uh consuming beverage-wise this week to get you through the tough times?

SPEAKER_06 1:19

You're gonna be surprised, Ken. But I did the thing feeling a little under the weather, so I made a hot toddy.

SPEAKER_10 1:26

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_06 1:27

You see it? Yeah, it's a little murky because I use like powdered cinnamon. I don't have cinnamon sticks, I'm not bougie like that. No. Um, but I was like, I'm gonna hate this. So I did like put more honey in them. That's probably in the um ingredient list. And I also was like, I'm gonna have to make this sweeter because I'm I'm not gonna like this.

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Yeah.

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So I can't laugh or I'll start coughing. Um but I remembered I have all these flavored syrups. I was like, I need like some kind of syrup.

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Yeah.

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So I put this pear rosemary syrup in, which I feel like fits the favor flavor profile.

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Yeah.

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Um, and this is the bourbon I'm using. It's like a bourbon whiskey, it's called Blanton's. I don't know.

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Oh, Blanton's is good. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's got a good yeah.

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Oh, it's got a little horsey on top.

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Yeah, I was like, well, I think that the bourbon is gonna be bourbon. I think it's gonna be better for me than whiskey. I've yeah, whiskey's so dirt-like.

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Yeah.

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So in any case, um, yeah, so like lemon, honey, yeah, cinnamon, hopefully magic. Yeah, healing, healing magic.

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Yeah.

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Um I probably put less less of the bourbon in than is expected, but yeah. It's gonna be great.

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Yeah.

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I think it's gonna be great. I also prepared, and I have some boiling water over here in case it starts getting a little too tapped.

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That's smart.

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What do you have going on today?

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Uh well, I went back to uh I was kind of rushing, so I went back to an old standby, my uh neutral uh vodka seltzers. So this is a black cherry, always good neutral. Yeah. I don't know who if neutral is somebody or if they're their own thing.

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Right. I think we talked about this, but yeah.

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Anyway, I like that. Neutral. I'm gonna open it right now. I'm gonna see if you can hear it.

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I heard the initial pop and then no fizz. Oh we heard it.

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All right, oh well.

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Heard it. Okay, are we gonna cheers? Yeah, we're gonna cheers.

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Cheers all the ways, cheers over here. Cheers, cheers over here, cheers, cheers me over here, cheers, cheers you over there.

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Cheers.

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Our editor is gonna love that right now.

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Yeah, there's some bourbon in there.

SPEAKER_08 3:56

Oh, is it too bourbony?

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I no, I made it very sweet, so it's just the right balance.

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Ah, perfect.

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I figured it out. Yeah, I mean, I know everybody was worried about it. I figured it out, everybody.

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Yeah.

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Lots of sugar, lots of other ingredients.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's really hard. It's such a strong flavor that it's hard to cover, but oh man, the hotness of it is really soothing.

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I bet, yeah. Uh so Lisa,

What are Ken and Lisa Watching?

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what have you been watching or reading or listening to?

SPEAKER_06 4:30

Okay. So the last time we talked, I had been watching Task, but the finale had not come out yet.

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Yeah.

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So I finished it. Still recommend.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:41

Um, I had like two quibbles, two quibbles, and it's my the same kind of quibbles I always have with a show, which is like, you know, something happens and everybody's just kind of hanging out. And I'm like, but why aren't you rushing to do this thing?

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Yeah.

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Like, we know that you should be rushing to go do this thing. You can't be that shell-shocked that you can't be rushing to do this thing. I'm saying that so I don't spoil it. Um, you didn't watch it, right?

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No, not yet.

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Will you be watching it?

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Yes.

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Okay, so we'll talk about that part later. But overall, well done. There's gonna be a lot of nominations out of this one.

SPEAKER_08 5:18

Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. It's it's gotten gotten so much awards buzz already. I mean, and we're like a year out from the Emmys again, but right for sure, Ruffalo.

SPEAKER_06 5:31

Yeah, um, but you know who else is like everybody's excellent, but you know who's so good. She's good in everything, and I hope she gets nominated. Is um oh my god, I can't I remember my brain is mush. Um child actress used to date Phoenix Rivers, um, Rivers Phoenix, wait.

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Oh Martha Plumpton, yes, thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Thank God you speak my language.

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Yeah.

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Um yes, she's in it, and she's so good. Yeah, she's really good, she's really good in everything, yeah. Um yeah, so I highly recommend that. And then I'm assuming. Have you been watching the season two of Nobody Wants This?

SPEAKER_08 6:17

No, not yet. It's another thing I have to start.

SPEAKER_06 6:19

Okay, it's hard to pick up from like such a phenomenal season one. Yeah, it's good, it's so watchable, yeah, so very watchable. I mean, I don't have I don't necessarily get the same kind of like feeling I get from season one. Yeah, but they make some smart choices, and there's also a lot of like in jokes, meaning like fourth wall in jokes, like yeah, making fun of like other things that actors from the show have been in. Yeah, like references, so that's kind of fun. It's a fun show, yeah. It's fun.

SPEAKER_08 6:58

Um, mixed there's been some mixed reaction online.

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Interesting.

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Uh, yeah.

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Hmm. Like what, for example?

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Like that it just too closely because I don't want to I yeah, I don't want to be spoiled. Right. But uh people just are like, eh, it's not, it's the general well, what I mean, not general, but like I've seen some comments where people are like, it's not as good as season one, it should have just been a one-season show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I could see that. Uh, but I don't know, like I feel like so many shows get a backlash when they come back for a second season.

SPEAKER_06 7:41

Yeah, you know, the writing is still pretty clever, yeah. Acting is great. Um, you know, it's okay. Yeah. Um, so I'm excited. I'm only I forget how many episodes there are. I'm almost done. I feel like I have two or three episodes left. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's been a fun ride. Okay. And of course, Seth Rogan's in it. Right. Yeah. Seth Rogan is in everything. Seth is becoming the um keeping memory. Who's the Nicole Kidman? He's becoming the new one.

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The new Nicole Kidman.

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Every movie, every TV show.

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Yeah. Right? Yeah, he's in so much.

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He's in so much.

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Yeah.

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All at once.

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Yeah. I mean, speaking of which, there's a second season of Plutonic on Apple, which I have not watched yet, but I'm dying to go back.

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And it came out, I think, when well, I think I was started watching the studio later. Did you finish the studio?

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I have got two episodes left. I'm so close. I'm so close.

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It's crazy. Um, but that was like still very buzzy.

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Yeah.

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When Platonic landed.

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Yeah.

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And he was still doing press for that. I'm like, what? He's just everywhere. And he's in that new movie with um Keanu Reeves.

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Yeah.

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Directed by Azizari. Who and I only know that because I heard him on the Amy Polar podcast. But anyway, I love it.

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I know.

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I know.

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Um, yeah, so that's all I have to talk about. What do you what do you have going on?

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So in lieu of watching Nobody Wants This, I watched Slow Horses season five, which is a very which is a favorite show of mine.

SPEAKER_03 9:31

Oh my god, there's five seasons.

SPEAKER_08 9:33

Now, yeah, the there's five seasons.

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Um I'm so behind on that.

SPEAKER_08 9:38

I know, and it's a little bit daunting when there's five seasons, but each season only has six episodes, so you can really zip right through it. Yeah, you can definitely it's like it's on that like British model of TV where they just have six episodes of a show.

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So and here I was about to brag about how I watched the full full first season in one night. Now you're telling me it was only six episodes. But I very I very much remember being like, Am I gonna watch a movie or am I just gonna start a show? Yeah, so I watched six hours of a show instead of watching one movie. I've watched six hours of a show. Right. I was happier for it, honestly.

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I think you were. Yeah. I give you loved it. I give you credit, I give you full credit for watching it in one night.

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Thank you.

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That is still an accomplishment.

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And I meant to start season two like right after that, and who knows what happened, but yeah, man, yeah, I love that. It's good, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:33

You'll like it. Yeah, keep going. Keep going. Okay. Uh and then I listened to an episode of Criminal, which I haven't I've been kind of off the criminal off the criminal lately. Uh, but they had a special, I mean, they didn't call it this, but uh in my mind it's a special Halloween episode, which I'm sure it was, but it's about it's about and I had already seen the movie, so it was so interesting. So there's there was a uh the BBC aired a movie in the 90s called. Do you know about the story? Okay.

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So this is a that must not be a new episode of Criminal. Oh, maybe I think that's how I heard about it.

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Okay.

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Then I we watched the document. There's a documentary about it too.

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Okay, criminal is interesting because they don't tell you when it's a they don't necessarily say this is a this is a re a rebroadcast.

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They don't always say that. Yeah.

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So I guess I missed it whenever it was originally.

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Did you already know the story?

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I already knew some of the story, and I had watched the movie on Shudder. Oh, but I didn't know there's a lot more background in the episode that I heard about, which is interesting.

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Sorry, you go ahead. I interrupted you. You say what it was. Oh no, it's okay. What happened?

SPEAKER_08 11:50

So it's about it's sort of like a a War of the Worlds type thing. So War of the Worlds was a famous uh Orson Wells, they did a broadcast on the radio in the late 30s, where they did a version of War of the Worlds, but they acted as if it was really happening, and people believed it and they freaked out. So this was similar where they did they made a movie, it used real BBC commentators, and it was filmed like a documentary, and it's was done before before it was a common thing to do movies that were like documentaries that were horror movies. Right, right, right. And so it's about a it's about a haunting and a possession, and they aired it on the BBC, and people really believed it, and they freaked out.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 12:47

Uh so it's really interesting to think about the reaction of people at the time and looking back on it now from our vantage point all these years later. Really interesting story. But then they did a second part. Do you remember the set? So there's a second part that's a separate story about about K-Rock, about K Rock, the LA radio station, a DJ there in the I don't remember what it was now. But they he was he was uh it had to be perhaps also in the 90s.

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Okay.

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They he was he was new, they're hiring all these new people. He was not he was like, he's he admits he's like, I wasn't really qualified for this job, but am I gonna turn down getting a DJ job? No. So they're trying to find ways to get engagement, get people to listen. Okay, and they did this thing where they said, Call in, and if you have committed a crime, call in and tell us a crime you've committed. Yeah. And they weren't getting really interesting stories. So he calls it. Who in the world's gonna do that? Right. Right. So he calls his buddy and says, Come up with something really juicy and then call in. And so his buddy calls in and makes up the story that he killed his girlfriend. So immediately it was way too far, way too, way too serious, way too big. They didn't know how to handle it. They just decided we're not gonna tell anybody, we're just gonna lie about it. The police investigate. Right. Hundreds of hundreds of people think maybe it's there, they know something, and then finally they have to admit to it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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They get overheard talking about it, and a reporter gets hears about it, and they have to admit to it.

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Right.

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Crazy stories.

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Great stories. It's it's those are great stories.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 14:49

I think they also did one one year around Halloween, or maybe it was about it was something about um they had a she did a bunch of ones where it was like spiritualism and like something like that, but it was in oh it's a famous story about this town. Thought there was a ghost. This town thought there was a ghost in their town, and one guy just decides, like, well, I'm gonna kill the ghost with a gun. And you know, he's camping out. No, so everybody's in a heightened state, and you know, he's there and he's like, Oh my god, I see the ghost, I see the ghost. And he shoots this guy who's wearing like white painters outfit. And I feel like this was like in the 20s, maybe. Yeah, um, and yeah, so he killed a guy, like killed a guy thinking he was killing a ghost.

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Yeah.

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So I feel like that's a pretty like they do a lot of stories like that, which I like those stories. And I think that one actually contributed to a law that we still have, and I can't remember what the law is, but um, like maybe you can't shoot ghosts. Right, it's against the law, Ken. Um, but anyway, yeah, I really like criminal goes in and out with me, and and lately I'm on the same boat as you, as like it's these stories that she's been doing so recently are so infuriating, and they're the kind that I hate. Like they're the really awful, like terrible ones. And sometimes I can get into them and sometimes I can't, but I can't do so many in a row.

SPEAKER_08 16:25

Yeah.

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Um dip back in.

SPEAKER_08 16:27

I'm also missing she used to do more stories where there was kind of almost like a twist. Like, maybe I don't know how they found so many great stories that that at the end there was some kind of something that happened that changed what you thought it was about.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 16:46

And maybe I'm just like remembering some of the like the really great ones that did that. But uh I feel like every episode was a story that maybe didn't have a twist, but it always the story I thought, oh, that I I didn't know about that is fascinating. Or I didn't know anything about that, right? Uh and I don't feel like there's as many of those kinds of stories lately.

SPEAKER_06 17:15

I agree. I miss it. I'm gonna I'm gonna tap back in one of these days.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:20

I shouldn't read the blurbs. That's my downfall. I shouldn't, I should just trust. I should just trust that it's gonna be a good story. Yeah, but the last few I listened to were so egregious, and they're like nobody believed them. Or I know.

SPEAKER_08 17:36

I did listen to a couple recently. There was one about a Thai woman who basically got trafficked to trafficked to Singapore? Somewhere. So it was about these women who have to, who have to be they're they're basically uh they have to do phone sex, they have to do not phone sex, but they have to, they're trying to scam people. Oh and actually it was really good, but it was like, oh my god, the things that happen to people. But it's about how she bands together with other women in her in her uh where she's being held prisoner, basically to escape. Uh I mean it was a good story, but it's also like harrowing.

SPEAKER_06 18:26

So hard to listen to, yeah, exactly. It's been like that. Um there's been some, you know, the injustices of slavery kind of episodes. I don't know. I have to work up to that. So yeah, yeah. But I do miss it. Um, anything

The Pitt Discussion

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else?

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No, that's it. Shall we uh get into it?

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Let's get to let's get into it. Oh, wait, before we get into it, I would like to address a couple of things.

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Oh, okay.

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I'm remembering, Ken. I'm remembering things.

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Yay.

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Um, okay.

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These are our predictions.

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Well, what is you were absolutely right about the ECMO machine. We had had a hearty discussion because I had misheard and I thought in the flashback to Dr. Adamson being taken off, they were saying, they were saying he's been on there for so long. There's a 12-year-old who's waiting. I interpreted that as needing his organs, which now doesn't make sense because he was riddled with COVID and whatnot. But um, but no, you were right. You had said no, they need the ECMO machine. You can't be on the ACMO machine that long. So, and because there's so few. Yeah. And the 12-year-old needs it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:42

So that is true. I researched that, and you were right. Um, I'll also say that I was somewhat spoiled. That's the danger of research on it.

SPEAKER_07 19:55

I got spoiled on a couple things too.

SPEAKER_06 19:57

I wonder if it's the same things.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:00

Well, one of them I will say I feel they're laying the groundwork for in these episodes that we watched. Um, so when we get to that, we can talk about it. And I wasn't even fully spoiled. My what?

SPEAKER_08 20:15

I was gonna say, I bet it it's sounding like I think the thing that I was spoiled on. So we'll see.

SPEAKER_06 20:21

Does your thing have to do with Langdon?

SPEAKER_08 20:23

No.

SPEAKER_06 20:24

Oh, okay.

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All right.

SPEAKER_08 20:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 20:26

Does your thing have to do with what's my other spoiler? Mohan?

SPEAKER_08 20:30

No.

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Oh shit.

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Oh shit.

SPEAKER_08 20:34

Mine has to do with Collins. Oh. And then it has to do with a big plot point.

SPEAKER_05 20:43

Oh. Shit, and you were spoiled against your will?

SPEAKER_08 20:49

The Collins thing I was definitely spoiled on, and I'm upset about it. And I will tell you when I when we get to it.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_08 20:57

The other thing is just a plot. I don't think it I don't think it ruins. I don't think it ruins anything.

SPEAKER_06 21:03

Okay. Okay. Um okay, let's see. Um uh Collins. Do you know what her first name is? How dare, how dare these these summary recap articles use first names? What? Why are they doing that? I know, because they don't.

SPEAKER_08 21:30

I didn't even write down any of their first names.

SPEAKER_06 21:32

No, and so in preparation for today, I was doing some recap studying, and I'm like, who the fuck is Heather? Oh my god, her first name is Heather? Would never, would never have guessed.

SPEAKER_08 21:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 21:47

Isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_08 21:48

That's crazy. The only one I refer to by her first name is Dana, nurse Dana.

SPEAKER_06 21:53

Nurse Dana. And also, Oh, Dr.

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Mel, right?

SPEAKER_06 21:59

Dr. Mel. Mel and um Santos, I think her first name is Trinity. Someone is Trinity. Okay, somebody is Trinity.

SPEAKER_10 22:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 22:09

And I'm like, I got so confused that I was just like, well, I'm gonna move on to a different article, honestly, because I can't keep up with all these names. Yeah, I can't even keep up with the names when I know them. Yeah. Or you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 22:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:22

Um, and I just want to also congratulate us on predicting that Mohan was right about her TikToker.

SPEAKER_08 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:31

Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_08 22:32

And she even got a little like a moment of approval, silent approval from Dr. Robbie.

SPEAKER_06 22:39

An invisible thumbs up, you know, as it were. We also, I just want to say, we also said something happens with Dana. Yeah. We said something happens with Dana. We said probably something with Robbie, but we weren't sure.

SPEAKER_08 22:54

Yeah. Um, it's not what I thought it would be, but it's not what I thought it would be.

SPEAKER_06 23:00

And I really had a hard time not hitting next on that watch button.

SPEAKER_10 23:04

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:05

I really wanted to see the next what happened next. I'll just say the things that have not happened yet that we um that we kind of predict or were trying to predict is um well, we we were predicting that Robbie was gonna have some kind of crisis meltdown. That hasn't happened yet.

SPEAKER_09 23:23

Not yet.

SPEAKER_06 23:24

Um, we said ginger was off her meds, that has not been determined yet.

SPEAKER_09 23:28

Nope.

SPEAKER_06 23:29

That could still happen, right? Yeah, she fully discharged.

SPEAKER_09 23:34

No.

SPEAKER_06 23:34

No, she's still talking, they're still talking. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Um, we said Whitaker was gonna get another fluid on him and that his next scrubs were gonna be pink. Wisteroo. Yeah, he got new scrubs, yeah. From a new nurse?

SPEAKER_08 23:52

From a nurse we'd have to be. Haven't met before.

SPEAKER_06 23:56

She seemed so like, uh, I know you.

SPEAKER_08 23:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:59

I really had to question my sanity. I know you're on the same page with me. We don't know her.

SPEAKER_08 24:03

I I did not recognize her.

SPEAKER_06 24:05

Interesting. We were like a little first five minutes. Maybe we did. And she's maybe in the background, and we just haven't noticed. True. True. Was she hitting on him with scrubs? She seemed like it. I mean, she seemed like it until she saw that rat.

SPEAKER_10 24:22

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:24

Um, and then the next thing we said is Dr. Mel, Lisa says something happens with her sister, and Ken says we were just getting to know who Becca was. Hindsight, that was we were talking about her talking, like that they actually showed her on the phone. In hindsight, it's because of a case that happened. Right. And destroyed me forever.

SPEAKER_08 24:46

I know. Oh, that was a rough one.

SPEAKER_06 24:49

Uh rough.

SPEAKER_08 24:50

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 24:52

Uh just one of those days, as Robbie said, Dr. Robbie said.

SPEAKER_08 24:55

Right, right. And it was all in episode eight, because we had it was we had that plot, and then we had the we had the walk. What did they call it?

SPEAKER_04 25:06

We had the walk.

SPEAKER_08 25:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:08

Uh we had a man. The honor walk. Yeah, the honor walk. That was really that was super rough.

SPEAKER_10 25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:17

Uh every part of it.

SPEAKER_10 25:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:21

I was pretty dehydrated by the end, to be honest.

SPEAKER_08 25:23

I know. I know. Oh, we also started with poor Collins and her miscarriage.

SPEAKER_06 25:30

Okay, let's talk about that. Because coming right off of seven into eight, I was like, she's just gonna go back to work.

SPEAKER_09 25:38

I know.

SPEAKER_06 25:39

She's just gonna go back to work. Yeah, which ultimately is what she did. But I do appreciate that, like, she took her minutes that she needed to, but then went and directly gave herself an ultrasound.

SPEAKER_07 25:51

Right.

SPEAKER_06 25:52

But I was still like, this is the great thing about this show. I was still like, she should go see her doctor, she should see her doctor, right? You know, her OB. Yeah, and um, and Dana says that later, yeah, you know, yeah, it's it's really smart writing, like they don't forget about things like that.

SPEAKER_08 26:11

Yeah, what did you think about so Robbie? Well, I don't know if there is anything to think about it, but Robbie knows that something like he walks in on her giving herself the ultrasound. I know she he saw, and he saw, and then is it that hard to figure out? Well, he doesn't seem to quite know because then he asks Dana what's going on, right? She seems normal to me, and then he asks her later, but they get interrupted. He asks Colin Collins later, they get interrupted, and then they have the cute little moment in the in the room with the rat, which is not related, but I think I feel like he's about to ask her again, right? And then and then he sees the rat. He was like, Don't look. He's don't look, and she's like, What? What? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 27:10

Wait, I have a very uh sidebar question. Is there just one rat? I thought there were rats plural. I thought they were talking about rats plural this whole time.

SPEAKER_08 27:19

Rats plural, right?

SPEAKER_06 27:21

I remember more than one coming out of that guy's jacket.

SPEAKER_08 27:24

Yes, okay, great.

SPEAKER_06 27:26

All right, now I'm not crazy then.

SPEAKER_08 27:27

So we're not done with rats yet.

SPEAKER_06 27:29

No, but and the reason I asked that is because one of the recaps was like, Whitaker's the hero. At least that saga is over. And I'm like, no, no, it is not. No, it is not. It is absolutely not more. So the person who wrote that article is uh not keeping track of rats, must not be scared of them or whatever. I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 27:48

Or too scared to keep track.

SPEAKER_06 27:50

I mean, for sure, there are more than one, right? I knew that that was gonna happen with that dog. I knew it the way they were I did too.

SPEAKER_08 27:57

I know when they say terrier, make sure you close when they said terrier, make sure you close, make sure you close the door. Yeah, don't want whatever his name is to get out. Herbie. No, Kirby, her Herbie, hold please, hold, please, Crosby, Crosby, right, named after David Crosby.

SPEAKER_06 28:18

Yes, that's what we found out, right? We did cutest dog, cutest dog, so cute. I actually went to his um, yes, Crosby has a um not an IMDB, but like a uh like a book me page. Whoa, because I was like, what kind of dog is that? Because I didn't picture Terrier, um, and all they'll say is a Chihuahua mix, which I also don't think like so cute. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. When you get a mixed dog like that, you who knows how it will present.

SPEAKER_08 28:49

Yeah, for sure. But yeah, um so cute. Yeah, so big Crosby fan.

SPEAKER_06 28:55

Me too. I hope he's sticking around, yeah. Um, at least until thousand pieces of road is out of that guy's leg. Jesus.

SPEAKER_08 29:05

I know. I did love it when not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but when Langdon presents it to Dr. Mel as a uh something for her to work on, and she's like like a treat. Yeah, and she said and she she treats it like it's a treat.

SPEAKER_06 29:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:20

She says, a thousand.

SPEAKER_06 29:24

She gets, yeah, that pulled her right out of her little depression.

SPEAKER_09 29:28

Yeah, her little funk.

SPEAKER_06 29:29

Mm-hmm. Um, so yeah, but let's talk about that. Um so the only thing I was processing in my head is that perhaps the ultrasound is not just used for baby, right? Like maybe she's doing an ultrasound because she's having like a kidney pain, or like I don't know. Maybe doctors just do it on themselves for different reasons. Oh, meaning go there. He might think she'd be using it for something else, not necessarily for because it's clearly the ultrasound machine that they had just used on a previous patient, right? Yeah. So Rob Dr. Robbie knows that it's an ultrasound machine.

SPEAKER_10 30:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:06

I think he can see that she's he's she's doing it.

SPEAKER_10 30:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:10

Um, and then the only other thing is that maybe he's just like his brain doesn't go there because maybe he knows she's not dating anyone, and maybe this is an IVF situation. Maybe yeah.

SPEAKER_08 30:22

I could also think that he suspects but doesn't want to ask outright.

SPEAKER_06 30:30

Mm-hmm. The look on his face did not seem to be like, oh, it seemed more like, huh, like, yeah, what's up? So anyway.

SPEAKER_10 30:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:43

Yeah, that'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_10 30:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:46

If that ever comes out for her.

SPEAKER_10 30:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:49

Um she's I mean, she's handling it pretty well. She once she's working.

SPEAKER_10 30:56

Is, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 30:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:59

Oh, I love that she confided in Dana though.

SPEAKER_08 31:02

I know. And then they held hands when they held hands during the talk.

SPEAKER_06 31:08

During the talk, and I loved that.

SPEAKER_08 31:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:11

I loved that so much. And I hate that that that their uh whatever they call that. Um when they had their little meeting after that they called up uh, but you know, that they got interrupted because Dr. Harry was really sharing something. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah. That was oh god, awful. Do we even have to talk about it?

SPEAKER_08 31:33

We don't.

SPEAKER_06 31:34

Do we even have to talk about it?

SPEAKER_08 31:35

We could skip.

SPEAKER_06 31:36

Here's what I will say. Fascinating, unbelievable writing. Everybody was doing what they had to do, the reactions on everybody's faces, the like the um vibe, as it were, like everyone had the right energy for that. Yeah, I'm always impressed, like in hindsight, of being like, oh my god, we don't know that mom and dad. Like, they're not actors that we're used to, like they're the not characters that we've seen, and they came in and had to do that. I know they had to come in and do that, I know, and it was so real.

SPEAKER_10 32:13

I know.

SPEAKER_06 32:14

And they're basically back to the city.

SPEAKER_08 32:16

Interestingly, you know, I I thought the mom's grief was so powerful in the moment. So I looked her up. She's a big soap actor. Oh, she's gonna have days of our lives. No way, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 32:33

Oh, good for her. Yeah, so I was like, maybe the pet is gonna be like, you know, ER or um law and order, where like lots of actors, like kind of like boom, then they get it.

SPEAKER_08 32:44

Yeah, when we're like, yeah, we we saw we knew them when.

SPEAKER_06 32:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the guy who got hit by the car. I mean, I for sure know him as an actor. I've seen him in a million things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's an interesting mix, but man, she nailed no wonder she nailed it soap actors.

SPEAKER_08 33:00

Yeah, she was she was incredible, and she really just said that one. Really, just a couple of scenes. A couple of scenes. Powerful, powerful, heartbreaking, heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_06 33:12

Yeah, something worse, and then oh, the war, and then don't even get me started with Dr. Mel and the Bear.

SPEAKER_08 33:19

I know, I know that little girl. I know so well done, though, when she runs out of the room and you think that she can't handle it, right? But she's really just going to get the bear. It's a bear, right? So that they have a thing.

SPEAKER_06 33:36

So but the more most importantly, they find out that the girl died to save her.

SPEAKER_08 33:44

Right. She was trying to rescue her sister. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:49

Oh, really so tough. Well done, though. Like really well done. And I oh she hated it.

SPEAKER_10 33:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 33:56

Well, yeah, it was a rough show. I actually wrote this is a tough app.

SPEAKER_08 34:01

I know. So to get this out of the way, we kind of wrap up the story with the with the uh the couple whose son has died, and they decide to donate his organs. And so that whole scene, oh, that whole thing got me to when they everyone's touching the you know, putting their hands on the parents, and then and then and then Dr. Robbie says, We'd like to some of us would like to go to the funeral because the mom says, I guess this is I guess this is it. And then he's like, I some of us like to go to the funeral.

SPEAKER_06 34:41

And then her reaction was both of them, yeah, both of them, the mom and the dad were still like oh, like I'm I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_08 34:49

No, I know, I know.

SPEAKER_06 34:52

Don't make me cry until I hot body can. Yeah, it was rough all around.

SPEAKER_07 35:00

It was, it was what a day, but also well done.

SPEAKER_06 35:04

Because in the midst of that is um, you know, everything else that's happening.

SPEAKER_08 35:09

Yeah, and they're they do a really good job of alternating lighter stories between the really heavy ones, right? And it doesn't seem it feels natural, yeah. It feels natural, we're in an ER, all kinds of things are happening, but it gives you a little relief from the really heavy stuff, right?

SPEAKER_06 35:33

Yeah, it gives it an appropriate enough enough time to these really harrowing stories, right? So it doesn't feel unbalanced, it doesn't feel like I really wish we had spent more time here or yeah, it's too fluffy for this. Like it's a really good balance, yeah, yeah. Um so pivoting now to one of those stories, but an ongoing story, Rita came back. Rita came back. I don't think we even predicted if she was coming back or not. I think we both were sort of like she has to come back.

SPEAKER_08 36:06

Right.

SPEAKER_06 36:06

She has to come back, right?

SPEAKER_08 36:08

Right. And it was, I thought, oh, that's a good explanation, right? Like she literally fell asleep in her car. I mean, I do do you believe it or I I believed it, but maybe I don't know, as we're talking about it, I'm like, maybe that's not what happened.

SPEAKER_06 36:23

I think it was a little bit of both.

SPEAKER_08 36:25

Okay, to be honest.

SPEAKER_06 36:26

I think it was a little bit of I'm gonna stay here as long as I can, you know, and like purposefully not go back in for a while, but then probably also doze off.

SPEAKER_08 36:36

Right.

SPEAKER_06 36:36

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 36:37

She did seem pretty panicked that she got so many missed calls.

SPEAKER_06 36:41

Yes, for sure. That's true.

SPEAKER_08 36:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:46

Um, yeah, and they're just like, I just love that they're also talking to um the social worker.

SPEAKER_10 36:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:55

And Rita seemed overwhelmed with that. Like to be like, we can't afford that. One, two, that there was just like that they were helping her so much, yeah, which was really nice. Man, that social worker is the hardest worker there.

SPEAKER_08 37:08

Like, she is everything.

SPEAKER_06 37:11

They need three of her, they need three of her, and she's very calm.

SPEAKER_08 37:15

She's she's so calm, very calm.

SPEAKER_06 37:18

She is the right person for that job.

SPEAKER_08 37:20

Yeah, she had some nice moments with Dr. Mel, and then she had some really nice moments with Whitaker.

SPEAKER_06 37:27

I kind of love that line where he's like, I'm gonna volunteer for the yeah, the thing where they go out and you mean after he went in and like full full hazmat and then like started peeling layers off. Yeah, that's really funny. I don't blame him though.

SPEAKER_07 37:42

Yeah, yeah. I mean, he's got he's gotta protect those scrubs, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:47

Yeah. For his face, for his face, got it. He really got it.

SPEAKER_08 37:52

I mean, he got he got peed in the face, yeah, and he got blood shot into his face.

SPEAKER_06 38:00

Yes. He was also puked on at some point, and he's puked on.

SPEAKER_08 38:06

That sounds right.

SPEAKER_06 38:07

I feel like I think I feel like he got it all.

SPEAKER_08 38:09

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:09

But you know what's interesting? I'm just thinking, like, shouldn't he be tested?

SPEAKER_08 38:15

Uh I know.

SPEAKER_06 38:15

Because they I mean it's in his could have gone in his eyes, his nose.

SPEAKER_08 38:20

Right, because when uh Garcia got the scalpel in her foot, that was one of the things. Like, we should we do a they said should we do a uh a screen?

SPEAKER_06 38:30

Mm-hmm. Yeah, why aren't they doing that for him? I know we can't be smarter than the snow. There's no way. No, there's no way maybe it already happened, and like in a later show, they're gonna be like, oh, your test results are back. Something.

SPEAKER_10 38:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 38:47

Wow, why are we just thinking of that?

SPEAKER_10 38:49

I know.

SPEAKER_06 38:51

Um, Robbie was eating a protein bar.

SPEAKER_08 38:56

He was.

SPEAKER_06 38:57

Thank God. I know he needed it.

SPEAKER_08 39:00

I know. Now he's peed, he's got some food. Yes, gonna be fine.

SPEAKER_06 39:08

Right. Yes, things are going his way, yeah. Um tell me why it's important that we saw Louie, who had like the lethal dose alcohol guy in the recap, and then in this episode we see him come back. Why is that important? Is that important? Did anything happen with him? Am I forgetting?

SPEAKER_08 39:33

Uh I think it's only important because he was coming back, right? Well, here's the thing. But I think there is, I mean, I think the real the real thing is that it's ratcheting the tension up between Langdon and Santos, right? Right. Uh so she he's got was it Delaudded? What was the they was given a drug Librium? Librium. I wrote it down 20 20 pills or something. She's like, you've only got 10 here. That's right. So she was questioning Langdon's prescribing Librium to him.

SPEAKER_06 40:16

And they went and counted it or something.

SPEAKER_08 40:17

They went and did something, or she showed Dana showed her how it works to get the right, but then it went back to like this is the I miss this because it's the whatever it was that she was injecting in the previous episodes. Yeah. That she couldn't get it open. The bottle she couldn't get open.

SPEAKER_06 40:35

Yeah, that's what they checked, right? Right, right.

SPEAKER_08 40:37

Yeah, yeah. And I'm I'm not sure how she got from asking about the Librium to can we check the bottles? But she did.

SPEAKER_06 40:47

I think it was just, yeah, she was just like, I So what I'm thinking is that she is thinking that it's gonna be a pattern with him.

SPEAKER_08 40:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:56

With Langdon. That's what she's thinking. That he's doing something.

SPEAKER_08 41:01

Oh, right. She's implying that he is, well, she actually says it to Garcia, right? That yes, he is he's like hor like taking the medication, right? Like maybe he's got a drug problem.

SPEAKER_06 41:13

Right. That's what she says.

SPEAKER_08 41:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 41:15

And that when she was like, You've been here like what three hours?

SPEAKER_08 41:19

I know.

SPEAKER_06 41:20

And she had just gotten back on Garcia's good side. I know, she's too bold.

SPEAKER_08 41:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 41:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:26

So that's interesting. Yeah. Um, and you're right, that is probably why they brought him back because it's a recurring person. When Santos is thinking that he can do this with this person because he's in and out. Yep. And he's always drunk. Always drunk.

SPEAKER_08 41:48

Right. Nobody's checking too closely. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 41:53

Um, do you think she really believes this? Or do you think she has a drug, uh, a drug, a grudge?

SPEAKER_06 42:03

No, I think she really believes it. Okay. I think with this part on top of the because I don't fully understand what he could have been doing with the vial.

SPEAKER_10 42:14

Right.

SPEAKER_06 42:15

Right. I don't understand what he could have been doing fully there.

SPEAKER_10 42:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:21

Like, what are you doing? Because the implication is if you're taking it, then you're giving your patient like water.

SPEAKER_08 42:28

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_06 42:29

We have heard we've all heard the stories about that happening.

SPEAKER_08 42:32

Right.

SPEAKER_06 42:33

It happens a lot.

SPEAKER_08 42:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:36

Um, so I guess there's a way, but like the that patient got better, right? Or was that one where Robbie was not Robbie Langdon was like, you only have to give him half, or something like that. Like, yeah. I don't know. But levels seem to be an issue.

SPEAKER_08 42:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:54

Tampering for Santos.

SPEAKER_08 42:56

Bottles. Yeah, maybe you're right. It's tampering or something. Like, I thought she was at first with the vials when it came up in the previous episode, that she was implying that Langdon set her up for failure somehow.

SPEAKER_06 43:12

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 43:12

Right?

SPEAKER_06 43:13

That's what I thought too. Except now I'm thinking, based on this pill situation, that it's adding to something that she was thinking that is different than what you and I were talking about.

SPEAKER_08 43:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's formulating this idea in her head that he is stealing drugs.

SPEAKER_06 43:32

Right, right.

SPEAKER_08 43:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 43:33

Stealing slash potentially using.

SPEAKER_08 43:36

Potentially using. And I guess that, I guess you're right. The tamper in the bottle goes back to the idea that maybe he opened it and took the and put filled it with water, right? Like those famous cases. Right. Okay. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_06 43:49

Right.

SPEAKER_08 43:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 43:50

Or partially did that. Something like that. Um and like once I started thinking that way, I was like, oh, um In his behavior, one if she's questioning the vials and then she's questioning the pills, he is probably yelling at her because maybe she's on to him. I'm just this is just uh like because his behavior towards her is crazy when he's not like that to anybody else, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08 44:24

Well, his I would say his his behavior to her is way over the top, yeah, but it's not out of nowhere, it's because he thinks she's reckless, right? And she's constant he feels like she's constantly going over his head or going working around him, right? And he like way, he blows up and it's way too much.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 44:51

Uh but I don't think it's I don't think it's necessarily I mean I didn't that interpretation is is interesting that maybe he's trying to cover up. I didn't even think about that. I was I was thinking well I was thinking it was an overreaction to the situation, yeah, but it was reacting to her how he sees her behavior.

SPEAKER_06 45:15

And when Dr. Robbie pulls him aside because he hears him, yeah, he's like super embarrassed and like deflated by the whole thing, right? Like he knows he shouldn't be doing that, so he's like out of control.

SPEAKER_08 45:28

He got all worked up. Yeah, he got all worked up.

SPEAKER_10 45:31

And then yeah.

SPEAKER_06 45:33

Did you get the I'm just thinking of this now. Like, did you did you get any kind of like I forget actually what Dr. Robbie said. I don't know if I wrote it down, but that he had done that before? Or I just knew Dr. Robbie was like, we do not do that. That is not something we do.

SPEAKER_08 45:48

Yeah, no, I didn't think he I didn't think so.

SPEAKER_06 45:53

Right. I do think that Langdon was like, I know it's not something we do. Like he knew he was wrong.

SPEAKER_08 45:59

Yeah. Um, yeah, it was like he as soon as he was taken out of the situation, yes, he realized he fucked up. Right. Uh I mean the other thing is like Dr. Robbie's already said you're my best doctor to Langdon. Yes. And I'm recommending you for this blah blah blah fellowship or whatever.

SPEAKER_06 46:21

That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_08 46:23

So but that would be really that would be an interesting twist if he really did have a drug plot problem and Santos picked up on it.

SPEAKER_06 46:34

It would be crazy.

SPEAKER_08 46:35

It'd be kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_06 46:36

It would be crazy. Yeah. Um, but I was like, oh, now that I'm clued into what I think she's saying, yeah, I was just trying to think of that side of it. Are there any clues? Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_08 46:47

So are you I don't know how to ask this without uh was this does this have any relation to your spoiler?

SPEAKER_06 46:57

It does, and I don't know what I can say because what I saw was not a full spoiler. It wasn't this is definitely happening. Okay, but it was a question that is posed that probably contributed to me thinking of this, right? Like this way. Okay, but I don't know what's gonna happen. Should I just say it?

SPEAKER_08 47:19

Yeah, just say it.

SPEAKER_06 47:21

Okay, so when I was Googling, it was it was it the question was does Langdon ever get caught? So the implication is that there is something happening. Oh but it doesn't fully it could be the answer, could be no, there was nothing to be caught for. Right, it was a question. I didn't read beyond the question. But the question implies he is getting away with something, but also it could be something that hasn't happened yet, it could be totally unrelated to this, right?

SPEAKER_08 48:04

That is true.

SPEAKER_06 48:06

What was I Googling at the time? I was not even Googling anything about him. Oh no, no, like what what I was Googling was trying to Google things when you have to put like a whole paragraph in, it's ridiculous. I was you and I had been talking about how when Whitaker hit the artery in the ankle and that whole thing.

SPEAKER_10 48:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:25

Why did Langdon say to him, like, in another hospital, he might have he probably would have died? Yeah. And so I sometimes Googled it with Langdon and without Langdon's name. Yeah. So I think just once I put his name in, everything about Langdon came up, but that was the only thing I saw.

SPEAKER_10 48:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 48:41

But it could be something that he does later.

SPEAKER_09 48:43

Right.

SPEAKER_06 48:44

He tries to cover up.

SPEAKER_09 48:45

Right. It could be, yeah, it could be.

SPEAKER_06 48:46

But never, but but honestly, Ken, like because that's in my head now, and now I think that is what she's trying to imply. Yeah, we didn't know until this episode that that's what she was trying to imply. We thought it was tink making it hard for her.

SPEAKER_08 48:59

Yeah. Yeah. Um, that is so now I'm sort of like so looking for clues.

SPEAKER_06 49:04

Interesting. It is interesting, it could be anything. Gosh. And and I like him.

SPEAKER_08 49:10

I just I do too. I I have also like grown to like him.

SPEAKER_00 49:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 49:16

Because he seemed like he seemed like the classic asshole doc at the beginning. Yeah, and then you see all the different sides, like they do a really good job with that character.

SPEAKER_06 49:28

The way he is with Dr. Mal.

SPEAKER_08 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:33

The way he um calls his kids after they lose the girl.

SPEAKER_10 49:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:42

The way he's like trying to take Dana's advice about taking care of his wife and kids, like it feels very genuine and he feels like a more complex character, right? Like so I just and I do appreciate his, you know, when he gets into the banter with what's her name, and he could have been just very one-dimensional, and he's not. Yeah. So I don't like it.

SPEAKER_08 50:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:10

Well, now you're in on it. Now you're in on my spoiler.

SPEAKER_08 50:13

Now I'm in on it. So I'm not gonna reveal my spoiler, but can I tell you how I heard about it?

SPEAKER_06 50:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 50:18

Not to go off on a tangent. But this is so frustrating. Oh, no. I was listening to a podcast episode that's recapping, I was listening to a podcast episode that recapped the second to last episode of Slow Horses, this new season, which I talked about at the beginning of the episode.

unknown 50:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 50:40

And the guest, the guest on the episode was our favorite Alan Sepperwall.

SPEAKER_05 50:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 50:46

And in this middle, in the middle of this discussion about Slow Horses, season five, episode five, he reveals this, he like reveals this big spoiler about something that happens on the pit. He was like, ah, I was too late. I couldn't cover my ears. He didn't even say like spoiler alert. Right. He was just like, when this happens, oh no. He was like, I can't remember how it came up, but I think he was saying something like, Well, this reminds me of when blah, blah, blah, blah, blah happened on the pit.

SPEAKER_04 51:20

Oh my god. Oh no.

SPEAKER_08 51:24

Yeah. Yeah. So that is a little bit of a frustrating thing that happened because I'm so careful.

SPEAKER_06 51:33

And you think it's gonna ruin your enjoyment of the show?

SPEAKER_08 51:35

Like, would it be something that you were like, huh, when it happened, or is it one thing not ruined my enjoyment of the show is probably too strong, but it's a something that I am very disappointed about. That's all I'll say.

SPEAKER_06 51:52

Damn it. God damn it.

SPEAKER_08 51:54

All I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_06 51:56

My other spoiler is really fun. I'm not gonna say anything. Okay, but I will ask you this question.

SPEAKER_09 52:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 52:02

It's funny because it was something that someone posed in one of the summary articles that I was reading, but like the article was like, is anyone ever gonna kiss on this show? Oh, and they're trying to ship, of course, Dr. Robbie and Collins.

SPEAKER_09 52:15

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 52:16

Um, so how do you feel about that? Like, do you think people are gonna kiss on this show? I mean, it's certainly not gonna be Javardi and Mateo.

SPEAKER_08 52:25

I'm gonna say I do ship Dr. Collins and Dr. Robbie.

SPEAKER_06 52:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 52:30

Do I think they're gonna kiss? I don't think I would love it if somebody kissed on the show, but I don't think it's gonna happen because I don't think it would be realistic, and the show's too realistic for that. The only way I could see them kissing would be if it was revealed that they actually are in a relationship and we we just don't know what don't know it yet. Yeah. Right. That's all. That could happen. That could happen.

SPEAKER_06 53:02

Right, it could happen. It could happen.

SPEAKER_08 53:03

I don't think like I don't I don't think two characters who have just met in this that today are gonna kiss. Like Javati and Mateo, which we already know is not gonna happen. Um the human I was kind of shipping them a little bit, they were adorable.

SPEAKER_06 53:21

No, it would have been cute, except she's so fucking awkward. She's so surprised and disgusted all the time.

SPEAKER_08 53:29

I know. I do love that story. I loved when she tells a story about Utah to Dana. Yes, and then she's like, I feel like Utah. Is that what she says? All right, she says he is like a walking, he's the human Utah. Human Utah.

SPEAKER_06 53:48

Wait, is that what she says? It is very funny, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 53:51

And then Dana like wraps her arms around her and says, She's like, She's like, that's the best thing I've heard all day. And she's like, I hope you have a lifetime of Utah's.

SPEAKER_06 54:03

She says, Mateo is like a human Utah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 54:08

Um, I wish you many Utahs in your life.

SPEAKER_06 54:12

Right, right, right, right. I love that. So fun. Um, and I literally can't tell if what I saw is characters on the show, or if these two people are just dating in real life. Oh. Um, like the two actors. Okay. So it'll be so fun. Um, okay. But it did make me think, like along your lines, right? Like maybe there are people in relationships that we don't know about yet. Like we suspected um Robbie and Collins, and that came true.

SPEAKER_10 54:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:45

Past relationship. But um, yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_10 54:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:50

I feel like there's so much more to happen.

SPEAKER_08 54:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 54:52

Because I'm like, oh, like dodging stuff. And I'm like, Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 54:56

Here's the thing about Collins and Robbie, though. If they were currently in a relationship, he would know she's pregnant.

SPEAKER_06 55:02

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think they're carried on the pregnancy. Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 55:04

Because I mean, if she's had reached the stage where she was buying strollers, he would know.

SPEAKER_06 55:12

Yeah, and we also know that she said that's ancient history, but she could also have been That's true.

SPEAKER_08 55:16

She did say that.

SPEAKER_06 55:17

She could be also hiding that, but I feel like she says things to Dana all the time.

SPEAKER_08 55:21

Right.

SPEAKER_06 55:21

Um, what was I gonna say? But I think you're right. If it unfolds, it will be something we didn't know about yet.

SPEAKER_10 55:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:30

And it just kind of like pops up, like nobody's talking about it because we've only been here for five hours.

SPEAKER_08 55:36

Well, we don't know everything, Ken. No, now we've been there for nine hours.

SPEAKER_06 55:40

Oh, nine? Yeah, yeah, right, because it's not nine episodes. You're right, you're right, you're right. You're right. Um, okay, so that was fun. That was good talking about all that stuff.

SPEAKER_10 55:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:51

I guess if we're spoiled, we're spoiled. Although I don't want to know your spoiler. I don't want to know.

SPEAKER_10 55:55

You don't want to know.

SPEAKER_06 55:56

I don't want to know. Um, but speaking of criminal, one of the uh one of the side, well, I'm not gonna say side, but not nearly as devastating, although it talking could have been um cases is the man and his pacemaker. Yeah, comes in and then they're like working on him, and he's like he he's saying some medical jargon, and they're like, Were you a doctor? And he was like, No, blah blah blah. But it was part, he was part of the um Freedom House pre-911. And um that's how I know about this. Once they started talking about it, I was like, I know about this because of criminal criminal whole episode on free pre-911. Um, this particular, I don't know what you call it. Um my god, you know, yeah, organization, I guess. Yeah, they trained people to go out to emergencies, yeah. Um, and it was, I guess it was called Freedom House, but also um they like worked with a doctor who invented CPR. Whoa. That was the other part of this whole thing. It's all one thing, it's unbelievable. Wow, find that criminal, find that criminal. I will, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, yeah, those are the kind of ones that I'm like, oh my God, I didn't know anything about this. And then once they started weaving this through, I was like, oh, this is so cool that they're doing this.

SPEAKER_08 57:26

Yeah, yeah. You know, and it was a little bit of like uh, here's our here's our history moment. Here's our moment of history on the pit. That's right. Like they do occasionally do here's our moment of our learning corner on the pit. We're gonna teach you about ECMO. Today we're gonna teach about the history of of uh emergency medicine. The right the more you go.

SPEAKER_06 57:50

Do do do do do do um I did not realize I had in my head that it was Philly, so I was like, oh, it's Pittsburgh. I mean Pennsylvania, but like I that was also it was really cool that they they brought that in. Um and then what was I gonna say about that?

SPEAKER_08 58:13

Oh, the other you already had a win, a big win. I loved it. How great was that? Uh so good, so good. Uh and I think she even got her mom to like there was like a moment of like pride at the end, right?

SPEAKER_03 58:35

I couldn't tell.

SPEAKER_08 58:36

I couldn't tell. I well, I had to go back and rewatch it because I I wasn't sure either. But then when I when I went back and I rewound it, there's like a little hint of a smile, I think, at the end.

SPEAKER_06 58:48

Like she might be good after all.

SPEAKER_08 58:49

Like she might be good, or like, see, there you you do have it, honey.

SPEAKER_06 58:54

You did it, you did it.

SPEAKER_08 58:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:57

I was very passive.

SPEAKER_08 58:59

Yeah, because uh her mom is intimidating. Yes, she even intimidates Garcia, who doesn't seem to be very easily intimidated.

SPEAKER_06 59:07

Yeah, she's a big deal. They had her on the phone, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 59:12

Yeah, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_06 59:13

Yeah, that was that was a good one. I like that little that poor girl was writhing in pain, though. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 59:19

I know. Can you imagine? I was thinking, if they hadn't found the Black Widow spider, yeah, they wouldn't have known.

SPEAKER_04 59:29

They wouldn't have known.

SPEAKER_08 59:30

Right? She would have it's lucky that the spider was there, right? Like you could imagine she could get bit, and then the spider is I mean, it's she's just lucky that it's caught in her shoe.

SPEAKER_03 59:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 59:44

And then I mean she did see the bite first. She saw the bite first, but would the bite be enough? Would the bite bite be enough to warrant the treatment, the special treatment? Oh, oh, I see. You know what I mean? Like I feel like she would have been in although maybe I don't know, maybe they would have figured it out somewhere down the line, but um anyway, it was that was a good story. I really enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:13

That was a good good one. Um and then another one, and it's like, man, we were all feeling this one when McKay, this is right after I am bawling. I've gone through a whole box of tissues. We're all devastated because the little girl died. Yeah, and then McKay is walking through and she sees Myrna in a wheelchair, and she's like, Not today, right? Myrna, are you okay? She thought she was dead. We all thought she was dead, yeah. Then she pops up and is like yelling, and I'm like, Right. We're all McKay. We were all McKay in that moment.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:52

We were, we were. It was like a little flashback to Whitaker's uh Whitaker's patient who was having the heart attack in the hallway, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:02

Right, right. Um but we also didn't talk about that, but I guess maybe that goes into does it also carry her um her probably trafficked I know kept one patient. That happened that started in eight, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:24

Yep, and it finished well, she leaves. They take off in nine. They take off in nine. So this is interesting.

unknown 1:01:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:35

Well, now I'm now on the side of so there was the it's pretty clear, I think, that something shady is happening.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:45

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:46

And then the the way like the reactions from the the reactions from the boss the boss is she's she's shifty. Oh yeah. But then I kept looking for signs from the Piper, the girl. Does she know what's going on? And the first time I watched it, I was like, I can't tell if she knows what's happening, right? But then I went back. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:14

You mean what's happening to her in her life, or what's happening, like, why is McKay asking her all these questions?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:20

No, like, is she aware that she's being manipulated and trafficked? You're right, because she answers things so oh, oh, right, because the way she's presenting is like, oh, like I'm accepted, everything's fine, and she's giving me a place to stay. And I no, I don't want to leave her. I want her to be with me. Right. There's like never a sign where she's like, like even though she's never like, yeah, help me, help me. So I'm wondering, does she know she needs help?

SPEAKER_06 1:02:58

Yeah, the only time that I thought I saw that expressed is when she was like, when they do move room, they do bring her, and she was like, Oh, she's not gonna like that, she's not gonna like that. Right, that was terrifying, right? If you're saying you're coming into the emergency room with your boss, I know with a better fucking story.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:15

I know, weird, yeah, so weird, yeah, and then she takes the pen.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:22

We do see her. She was like, Absolutely not, I'm not doing any of that. And then yeah, we do think that she took the pen at the in the end, yeah. So that is something so smart, so smart, yeah, on the inside, yeah, brilliant, yeah, brilliant, yeah. Yeah, that was well done. It was again really well done. And we've I have seen that kind of exact like that kind of thing played. I'm sure hospitals see it all the time, yeah, on um Grey's Anatomy and like all kinds of shows, right? So so that I it was just really well done. Yeah, and like you can you can tell that McKay just really wants to help. I know. Oh, she was so frustrated.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:05

So related to that, I I think this is related, and I think you'll see where I'm going with this, but there wasn't there something about with the storyline with the incel kid and the mom. Was there something about the police got called? Am I making that up? No, you're not making that up.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:23

Okay, you're right. So she came back, yeah. And I was like, oh my god, we're getting back into this story.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:31

Yeah.

unknown 1:04:32

Dr.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:32

Rby just asked, like, how her appointment went, basically.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:37

Well, because they set her up for uh to talk to a psychiatrist, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:40

But like, not like she wasn't coming back as a patient, I don't think.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:45

No, she was just stopping in, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:49

And then we see the co-ops talking to her, but we never see it again, right? I don't honestly can't, until you just said it, I forgot all about it.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:58

I I did too, but this is what made me think of it. Yeah, because I at some point Robbie says, Oh, wait, who called the police? Was it somebody in the hospital? And I wonder if it's McKay. Only because she was she got she was she kept pushing Robbie to do something about the about the situation. Right. Uh but now that I'm saying it, now that I'm saying it out loud, I'm like, McKay wouldn't call the police, would she? I don't think she would. No.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:31

I don't think she would.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:33

No. Um considering her own issues.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:36

Exactly. Exactly. And um and I mean, I just think that's just a line she wouldn't cross.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:46

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:47

I mean, she's not yeah. Interesting. I you're so right though, I totally forgot about that. That we all see the cops talking to the woman. But it at this point it It could be because her kid is missing. You know what I mean? Like right.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:04

Did not go to school. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:06

Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:08

So. Oh. All right. Who did call the police?

SPEAKER_10 1:06:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:13

Um, yeah, we never see it again. Prediction. It's gonna be in the recap of our next episode, see episode 10. Right. And it'll come back up.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:24

May even be a scene we haven't seen before.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:27

It was in the recap.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:29

It was.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:30

Yeah. Oh my god. Unless I just didn't write it in. Interesting. I don't think even I have it in my notes.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:37

Yeah, I don't either.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:43

I would just like to say that for episode nine, the warning. Warning. Smoking.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:50

Smoking.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:51

Do you think you could warn us about more? I know. I know.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:56

We get we get warnings about flashing lights. And we get warnings about smoking, but not about horrific violence to women.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:08

See or seeing the inside of someone's hand.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:12

Or that was pretty gnarly.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:14

What not?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:15

I think you know in the show what you're getting into, right? Right. As far as that goes.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:19

Warning, you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:21

You know. Um what did you think? So we have that patient whose hand is crushed, uh, whose finger is crushed underneath the AC unit. Yeah. And then like the second, second flirtation of the day for Dr. Collins.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:40

Right? Yeah. He was he was also like um so calm.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:48

Way too calm. Like, how are you even thinking about asking somebody out while your finger is getting sawed down?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:56

Right. And he's like, uh, you alright? She's like, absolutely not. But like, why are you know me?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:04

Yeah, she's like, Are you she should have said, like, are you alright? Right, right. How are you alright?

SPEAKER_06 1:08:10

And uh, like it's interesting how they gave him such a backstory. He's like, I just do this for money, and I'm really trying to become a psychiatrist.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:19

Yeah, psychologist.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:21

I wonder if we'll see him again. I wonder the same. Interesting. Um, but it is also funny that he's doing HVAC for money. He doesn't seem phased that like he might lose his hand.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:38

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:39

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:40

Yeah, he seems not phased at all.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:42

No, no, no phasing.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:46

Um, who else was in that room? Because I thought it was like a like they were all like chat chat chat, like uh McKay.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:55

McKay McKay definitely gave a look like something's going on here.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:00

That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:01

And then was it Santos? Because Santos was excited to do the thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:06

Yes, yes, yeah. They called it a um something. I forget what they call that whole procedure. Oh, it might be a thing. She got really excited.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:19

I I think I would be screaming if that happened to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:23

I know, I know, I know, and that was before they gave him the drugs, and they gave him the drugs, and he was really like, la la la.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:29

Yeah. Um, she's like, You might have to take a couple days off from work, and he's like, Okay. He lost a finger.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:39

I know that's crazy. Yeah. Um, oh yeah, a lot of this we already talked about, but um here's something that I think we did talk about. Oh, it made me think of two things, but we did, I think we talked about this where I felt like Pitfest was gonna be like a problem. Remember, Dr. Robbie's son, I guess, is going to Pitfest. Yeah, Pitfest, Pitfest. So we see in this episode someone coming in from Pitfest. I was like, Oh, I forgot about Pitfest. Yeah, for sure. There's gonna be some problems, right? Yeah, but also it's got me thinking, we don't know what day it is here, right? But it must be like a weekend if you're gonna do a fest.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:24

Oh, that's weird, right? But it's not because it's a the incel kid is not going to school. Good point. Is it a Friday?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:35

Is it a Friday?

SPEAKER_08 1:10:36

Maybe it's a Friday.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:40

I'm gonna go with that.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:42

Unless, like, are there big, big fests that last more days?

SPEAKER_08 1:10:48

Like into a weekday? I guess we're gonna do that. Well, what if it's like a summer? What if it's summer?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:55

What if it's summer? And then he still goes to the room.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:00

Oh, right.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:03

Yeah, yeah. We're gonna settle on Friday. I bet there are fests on Fridays.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:07

I think it's probably Friday. Maybe it's like a yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:10

Yeah, it is weird. It would you would think it'd be like a Saturday, right? Like all day.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:14

I think it would be Saturday.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

Starts at you park at 11 a.m.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:20

Yes, it goes all day, all night.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:23

All day, yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:25

Um the it's for all I know, Coachella is two weeks, and I'm sounding like an asshole. You know what I mean? Like, oh my god, you guys are so old. Um, but yeah, so that was that was interesting, and that is the patient that ultimately Langdon loses his shit on Santos, right? Right. She takes the blame for something for she credits Mohan for doing what she did.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:55

Yeah, she credits Mohan, which I'm still not sure why. Like, what's her explanation?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:01

Because she thinks she's gonna get yelled at either way.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:04

Oh, right, okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:05

I think is ultimately what she was saying. Like, I'm I did yeah, I didn't go get him, so I'm gonna get yelled at either way. It's just better you don't want him yelling at you for doing something without getting him, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:19

Right, right.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:20

Is what I got from that. Um, it was true.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:23

It was true, true, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:25

Um, yeah, Mohan was not happy with the way Langdon was talking to um Santos. No, and said Santos is a really good doctor, right? She says, I think you're really good.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:40

Yeah, that's crazy. Um I forget, did they save that girl? They saved that girl, right? Because of what Santos did.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:50

Yeah, yep. Yeah, yep, they did. Yeah, Santos was right. Uh cute moment, cute moment with Mohan uh filming video of the influencer with the scarf. And Dr. Robbie sees it and he's like, What is going on?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:14

And Dana's like, well, you wanted better patient satisfaction scores.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:19

Right. And he did not go over and like yell at her, so I think that's a win.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:26

For her, because she was right.

SPEAKER_10 1:13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:31

Um, this is funny. Okay, wait. Mateo and I. Chef party is so awkward. And she's saying, I wrote down, I knew that asshole was going to say something. This is when the fight is happening. This is when the fight's happening with those women.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:52

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:53

That asshole guy is still there, mouthing off.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:55

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:57

Um, I was like, I just wrote that down. I was like, I knew that guy was gonna be there so he could get his two cents in, right?

SPEAKER_10 1:14:04

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:05

Not I didn't know that was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:08

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:09

Um, and uh, like I think I didn't write anything about these women. Yeah, the only thing I wrote down about that whole thing until today, because then I wrote something else down, but was I was like, Langdon was working on the woman who punched the other woman, yeah, and he was like, So when you have to go into surgery, should they be wearing masks or not? I was like, hee hee hee, I like that. Yeah, um, but also I'm like, where are the cops on that? Like, was assaulted, right? But she's like, You hit me, yeah, and that woman couldn't stop. I don't know, it was a lot for still she punched her so hard she not, I mean, she cut a truth in her hand.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:00

Yeah, that's that's assault.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:02

Yes, I'd be like, get those cops here, yeah, yeah, or pull them away from that woman in there, right? Oh, how are the cops just not always there?

SPEAKER_10 1:15:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:14

Um what was I gonna say about that? And then that was it. Like that was just well, that was it for those two women we didn't see.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:24

For now, right? Yeah, right. I mean, uh that may be it.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:28

Yeah, so that was like really we mentioned it before about Whitaker being in with the guy who wanted to apologize, and I get it, like he would definitely wanted to do that, and um um, you know, started talking about how he can't always be on his meds, and and then who's who was with him? Who was with him in that room?

SPEAKER_08 1:15:51

Nurse who was it? It was a nurse, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:58

He said that we have a street team.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:00

Street team. Oh wait, it was it was social worker, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:06

Oh, did she go in there with him?

SPEAKER_08 1:16:08

Or did he go, or did she tell him to go talk to the social worker about the street team?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:14

Oh no, I don't remember.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:15

She was either in there or he went to her after.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:20

I think it was a different nurse in there with him, but whatever. That's how we find out about the street team. And Wonder Girl was like, I'd like to do that. So cool. I know, I loved it. Very cool. He didn't have to do that, he did not have to say that.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:31

And he's like, I'll bring the medication to you.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:34

Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:36

That was the Kraken, right? Is he the Kraken?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:39

Yes, he's the Kraken, and then of course, just like everything else, he's a human person with struggles and real real issues.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:48

Um, oh earlier in the app, before that all happens, I'm just looking at my notes. That's where Collins tells Dana about losing, miscarrying, and she was like, It's because I bought that stroller.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:03

I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:04

And Dana says, Fuck that fucking stroller. She's the best.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:10

She is the best.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:15

Um I'm looking at my notes. Oh, yeah. So this case where the guy got hit by the car is really interesting. Lots of levels on this case, right? Like, yeah, first of all, I I had a feeling like she wasn't just like sleepy or out of it. Like I had a feeling something was wrong with her, but I was leaning more towards like um, I don't know what I was thinking. Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking, but um the fact that she had just been there to see McKay.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:44

I know, yeah, like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:46

No, I always had all mistakes, but yeah, and then I don't I didn't like the Collins was like pretty direct with her saying, check your bias, basically. Yeah, uh McKay who's so on top of everything and like eagle eye, and like I'm taking care of every patient and I'm reading into things and blah blah blah. I know the way she took that feedback, honestly, refreshing in a TV show, honestly. Yeah, I don't think so, but maybe, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:19

I felt the exact same way. It was so refreshing.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:23

It was a really earnest, like mentorship moment, it felt like with Collins being like, just you know, check it.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:31

Right, and Collins wasn't being mean, no, being direct, and and you know, she her she's uh experien, you know, she's using her experience, she's an experienced doctor, yes, and yeah, because but I also saw McKay's point.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:50

I get it, I get it, honestly. I get it, because I mean the way the medical system treats people who are overweight is ridiculous, right? Everything is their fault, yeah. And um, but like McKay was like, she didn't have a fever, you know what I mean? Yeah, so I get that, but I also very much see Collins being like, but if it was anybody else, you would have with who came in with those complaints, you would have done this. Yeah, kind of shouldn't say that directly, but she was like, We should have done it, you know what I mean? Yeah, um, yeah, I appreciate it so much. Really interesting. Yeah, it was great. Um, oh, this is what oh, did we say this already? I don't think I said this already. When Langdon is yelling at Santos, um, you know, and he's going off the rails and he's like, You're a beginner, blah, blah, blah. What he what what Robbie says to Langdon is harassment has zero value, and this behavior will not be tolerated. At least that's one thing he said. Yeah, those were his his words.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:58

Oh, and you could tell Langdon was like, Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:01

Like, why her? You know what I mean? It's not like that with everybody else, even with the Ortho that he hates.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:10

Well playful. But they you she's Garcia said it herself, right? She's like, We don't hate each other. Like, she basically is like, it's a planter.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:21

Yeah. Uh you're right.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:24

Uh yeah, I think he's just I think Santos just rubbed him the wrong way. And he just blew up.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:30

She was doing her own thing. I mean, she, yeah, more than once. Insubordinate, but you know, kind of.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:41

Um pre-guy off mats. Oh, oh, oh, his name is they call him the Kraken, I think, because his name is Krakowsia.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:55

Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_07 1:20:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:57

Wow. I just think that the the interactions with Langdon and Mel, Dr. Mel are just so awesome, particularly when they're sitting in that room and she's just holding the dog.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:13

Before that, she was just listening to Waves crashing.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:17

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:17

Like it's a rough day for Dr. Mel.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:20

And then he says to her, This is a tough place for sensitive people, but we need it.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:27

Perfect words for Dr. Mel.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:29

I know. I know.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:30

You know? He could be that way for everybody.

unknown 1:21:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:38

Um, Mateo doesn't date in the workplace.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:43

It does not.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:44

We're not gonna see him smooching anybody.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:46

No, no. She uh go javadi. She tried to try to work it, but like it was so awkward.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:59

It was the worst. And how did she get the balls to do anything?

SPEAKER_08 1:22:02

No, no, and as she's building up to it, I'm like, no, no, I know, no, don't do it. She was like, like watching a rom-com. I know. His reactions are the best.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:13

Yeah. And she is never not awkward. She is just like, she's never relaxed. She's just like I was saying, like, she's always looked worried and a little bit disgusted about everything that's happening. And even when she's hitting on him, she's like, like worried. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:31

Yeah, yeah. Although the only time she was when she found the Black Widow spider, and she and they she's like, she orders the whatever she orders, she's like her, her like her eyes lit up. She's excited then. Yeah. She's like, Oh, I got something.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:47

She was excited when she did that Captain Morgan leg thing too. She was like, Look at me doing this.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:54

Um, and let's see what else I have in my notes. Oh, the cops with the grandma didn't happen until the end. That's why we don't remember it too much. Yeah. And it didn't come up again because it wasn't until the very end of episode nine.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:15

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:16

Okay. Honestly, that could have happened in any at any point. That's how my memory works. It could have happened anytime if I didn't have it written down this way.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:26

Yeah. Um, but like the very, very end is Dana, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:32

I just wrote gasp. Gasp, I know.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:36

Awful.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:36

Totally unexpected. I mean, and then once you see, you're like, oh fuck, that is expected. Yeah from that that guy.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:45

And I can't believe he hit her, though. Why her?

SPEAKER_08 1:23:49

Well, because she yelled at him.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:52

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:53

And then I think she happened to be the one that was standing there when he walked out, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

Like, I guess so.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:00

And he saw her sm he's like, Oh, but you got a time to he you have time to take a smoke break. So that that whole thing just set him off. He was already like ready to blow.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:11

And right.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:13

Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:14

I did like that Dana interaction with the women in the in the waiting room. And afterwards, when she was like bragging about how she did it, she was like, it was like my old self or whatever. And like I was, I was loud and full of shame or something. I can't remember what she said.

unknown 1:24:32

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:33

Yeah. I know. Yeah. I know. Because the thing is, is that she could be out there being like, hey, listen up. Girl just died back there. Like she could be like a six-year-old just died. Just everybody calm down. Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 1:24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:51

But she didn't.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:52

No.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:52

I'm not sure it would have helped with the asshole guy, but maybe it would give him some perspective.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:56

I don't think it would have, but no, I guess not. I mean, talk about assault. They better go arrest him. And they've got his name and his they've got his info.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:06

They sure do. They have his short test results.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:11

Or maybe they don't, but they will.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:13

All right.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:14

They brought him back for something.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:18

When he was such a jerk to Mateo.

SPEAKER_07 1:25:20

I know. Eric Estrada.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:24

Who is that? Oh, that's funny. Yeah, I love the show. I can't wait until we watch the next two episodes.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:31

Me too. Me too.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:32

Maybe somebody will kiss.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:34

Maybe someone will kiss.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:37

Maybe somebody will be doing drugs.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:38

Don't answer this, but do you know? Don't I'm not gonna look at your face. Do you know that someone okay?

SPEAKER_06 1:25:44

No. No, I don't.

unknown 1:25:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:47

This is the I don't even know. I I saw two people together, but I don't know if they are the actors or the characters.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:56

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:25:58

I think we're gonna find out.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:00

Are they can't are they characters we've seen interacting on the show?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:04

No. Oh I know. Oh that's why I was like, this could be something. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:15

All right.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:16

I don't think we've seen them interact on the show.

SPEAKER_07 1:26:18

Oh, this is this is interesting.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:21

I know, or maybe it'll never happen. We'll be in the doing this podcast after the finale, and it was like, well, I really thought these two.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:29

Right.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:30

Maybe, and maybe none of this stuff is gonna happen with Langdon either. Like, I don't know. That's the thing about spoilers. Like, yeah, think you know, because we've only watched what we've watched, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:39

Especially that kind of a spoiler, where it's so it's it's so vague. Like you could read so much into that question, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:26:50

But specifically because it's only because I typed his name in. It wasn't because, like, I was like, is LinkedIn doing drugs? And then the question was, will he get caught? It wasn't like that, it was so open.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:01

Yeah, yeah. Oh, interesting. I can't wait to see what happens.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:05

I know. Let's watch the next two right now. Let's do it. Okay, so fun. All right, good times. I think we did it.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:12

All right, we did it.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:14

Yay!

SPEAKER_08 1:27:15

Okay,

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SPEAKER_08 1:27:17

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SPEAKER_04 1:27:52

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SPEAKER_08 1:27:53

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SPEAKER_04 1:27:54

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SPEAKER_04 1:28:05

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SPEAKER_08 1:28:08

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SPEAKER_02 1:28:17

Bye, Lisa.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:18

Bye.

unknown 1:28:23

Let's see what it's going. My god!

SPEAKER_00 1:28:26

Okay, it's happening. Wait, oh, what's the procedure, what's the procedure?

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