Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Deep Healing With Stacia Aashna

Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Deep Healing With Stacia Aashna

Stacia Aashna is an embodiment coach and hypnotherapist.

Stacia believes in non-traditional healing modalities to help facilitate deep healing work with her clients.

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Transcript

Sue:
Hi there, today on the show, we have got Stasia Oshna here with us. Thank you so much for being here. Welcome to the show.

Stacia Aashna:
Thank you so much for having me, Sue.

Sue:
I am so excited to have you here and get into your story. So give us the background here. You are an embodiment coach and hypnotherapist. You have all of these other certifications. You're a life coach. I mean, I was looking at the list here and I'm like, wow, she's got all of this training. What's the background there?

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, thank you. I do have a lot of training, which is reflective of my own sort of obsession with my own, with just understanding the psyche and people, the body. So I've been invested in learning and doing my own work for a very long time. And I guess the reason I became so fascinated with studying and learning all the modalities that I now work with today is because I came from a background of trauma. And at the time, of course, growing up, I didn't know that was what I was experiencing. I just knew I was really struggling and that I needed help. I always was very attuned to people. I've always been very, very sensitive. And some of that was part of my personality. And I think part of it was just a circumstance of my development because I grew up in an environment where I learned to be hypervigilant because there was a lot of threat around me. And I think that if any of your listeners grew up in an environment like that, they may relate to me that when you grow up hypervigilant. You're so aware of your surroundings and people around you that you tend to become very hypersensitive to people and things around you. So, yeah, I grew up just really, really sensitive. I was also sort of acting as therapist slash caretaker to my mother for many years as a child and a teenager. And I became fascinated. in meditation and psychology as a teenager as well. That was because I was looking for resources to help me to understand what I was going through because I was experiencing anxiety and depression. And so I was really fortunate to start to find these tools young. And then it just became a passion of mine was learning different tools and things that I could use to help myself. And because I also I'm interested and have always been interested in helping other people. It just became a natural fit to then translate this into work. For many years, I worked in corporate and I had a lot of entrepreneurial projects as well. So I was kind of studying and going to school on the side for a long time while I was working in big corporate roles. So this has been... a journey of being an entrepreneur for just over two years as a full-time business, but I've been doing this work for over a decade.

Sue:
Wow, I love that. Now, tell me something. So you know, you have this traumatic childhood, and that's kind of, I'm assuming you went to therapy and did all sorts of healing work for yourself, right? And then as you're healing, you're realizing the power of all of these kind of alternative modalities.

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, so I mean I started seeing therapists when I was young, but it was talk therapy and I studied psychology when I went to school and I also was noticing in my own work with a talk therapist that it wasn't, it was moving the needle but it wasn't happening very quickly. And so I became really interested in, you know, how could I, are there things that I could do to help myself that might change some of these experiences a little quicker? Because I was really struggling. I mean, especially in my early 20s, my relationships were terrible. I was a classic codependent. I was trying to fix and rescue every man that came to me. I was, you know, I was settling in my jobs, doing the work of many people. Never getting paid what I was really worth I could never at like speak up and ask for a raise or anything like that and so I kind of you know, I was a doormat in a lot of ways and I Didn't choose that was just automatic, right? Like this was just what I knew So I was doing this but I could also recognize I could because at the time I was also a meditator I became a daily meditator when I was 21 I could step outside of myself and recognize this is not healthy and how do I take responsibility and make some changes here? And so I could see that the talk therapy was helping but I was interested in moving the needle a little bit more quickly. So the first modality I found was hypnotherapy and I found that through my meditation teacher and I had no idea at the time that hypnosis could be used so therapeutically. And so that alongside mindfulness and talk therapy was sort of the first development of me exploring alternative modalities. And then that evolved to include internal family systems, which is a modality I'm completely obsessed with honestly. And that's becoming a lot more mainstream. It is a traditional psychological model. And and somatic experiencing in the last couple of years. So these are the modalities that have really helped me to work with deeper states of my mind and body to create changes a little bit more quickly, I'd say.

Sue:
I love that. That's so beautiful. And I would imagine as your healing and now you being a practitioner of all of these, you know, are so many of them, it's got to be so healing for you to be able to kind of aid others, right?

Stacia Aashna:
Absolutely. I joked with a client recently and said, the session's about you, but just so you know, I get a lot of benefit from this too.

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
I mean, I really do. I love my work. I love it more than anything in my life, honestly. My favorite thing to do is to sit with my clients. A lot of my clients come to me with pretty heavy backgrounds. I know. I can really appreciate the courage that it takes to reach out and ask for help. It feels like an honor for me to sit with people in their most vulnerable moments and for me to be a safe space that they can trust and share those things with. Then also to be able to be the witness to their transformation is amazing. It's incredible what I see my clients accomplish, things that they never thought they could. One of my favorite things to hear a person say is that they're proud of themselves because for so many people that is very foreign, like they have been living in a state of isolation and self-criticism for so long or they come out of a situation that is abusive where they have also been gaslit or treated very poorly. For that to all of a sudden flip where they… They don't just say that. It's not like a meaningless platitude. They really feel it. They feel genuinely proud of themselves is amazing. And that's the kind of thing that really brings tears to my eyes and just makes me feel really appreciative for the role that I get to play.

Sue:
Wow, that is so powerful. I can only imagine how just deeply fulfilling that is also for you to just see the transformation and the healing. So that I just commend you for the work you're doing. And it just like such a deep dive into this world with

Stacia Aashna:
Hehehe

Sue:
all of your certifications. I love that. Now talk to us about embodiment coach. Like what exactly does that entail?

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, I think, you know, and that's a really great question because I was just at meditation retreat over the weekend talking to my meditation teacher about language and how these words are, like a word like embodiment is really a word to be experienced, right? Embodiment, what does that mean? That is an experience to have, is to really feel what it feels like to be embodied in yourself. And it's one that I'm experiencing more and more of in my life as I continue on my own journey of really feeling what it feels like to be truly integrated and I guess to kind of give more structure to this idea. When we're going through life, we inherit a whole set of beliefs about who we are and that starts from the time you're born. All of us get that, right? I sometimes I say in hypnosis, you've been hypnotized since birth, right? You were given a whole set of beliefs about who you

Sue:
for

Stacia Aashna:
are,

Sue:
you all.

Stacia Aashna:
what you can accomplish, and a lot of that is helpful and then some of it is just not and really gets in the way and it slows you down. And some of it is a lot of narrative that's just been passed down over generations. We also inherit things like generational trauma. In IFS, we call it legacy burdens. And that stuff gets embedded in your psyche. And some of that just doesn't really work for you and yet you still carry it because we don't really, you know, we don't teach kids and even adults how to really deal with this stuff. You have to go and seek out help to really find the solution to become a more integrated and authentic person. So there's all of that, there's all of the beliefs about who you are, much of which doesn't really work for you. And then there's also trauma. And trauma, what happens is people tend to disintegrate. It's like we break apart and we often leave pieces of ourselves in the past. Then there are parts of us that get stuck and are frozen in time. And that's why we relive a lot of those patterns. from childhood where we feel like things aren't changing. Why do I keep on dating people who are, remind me of my father who did this thing to me? It's like, why can't I overcome that? Well, it might be that there is actually a part of you that is frozen in time that hasn't really integrated into the present moment that is still believing that you are five years old or 10 years old. And embodiment is about bringing those aspects

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
of yourself into the present and really like embodying them into the present moment, into the conscious, into consciousness. And I of us, we use a term called self-energy, that is the conscious core of you. So embodiment would be about embodying all those parts of you that may have been fragmented and are disconnected from self and bringing them into self. And from there, they transform. and you start to heal. You become more and more of who you truly are. And on the side of limited beliefs that these parts also carry a lot of those limited beliefs. The cool thing about this, this whole idea of embodiment and self-energy and really embodying self and being in the present is everything that a person needs

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
to be embodied and to be themselves, you already have that. It's there. It's literally

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
right there inside of you. And you just have to be, it just takes being guided and guiding yourself to be more

Sue:
Thank

Stacia Aashna:
and

Sue:
you.

Stacia Aashna:
more in the present moment and updating aspects of your mind and body into the present, and they transform.

Sue:
Wow, that is so, it just sounds so powerful. And so, Sausia, I would imagine what's happening with, like you say, you know, we're carrying trauma. We have all of this stuff. So we're not always able to be there in the present and embrace all of it, right? And then we lose our authenticity in some of those fears and things from the past we're holding onto. And there's just so much there. if it doesn't go healed and if we don't work on that.

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, yeah, and that's what everybody does. So it's not, if anybody's feeling like, why is it that I'm stuck in the past and unhealed? It's just normal, it's what we all do. Again, these are not things that we were taught to do in life, it's really these conversations are becoming more common now. And I'd say in like the last five years especially, But prior to that, things like going to therapy or working with a practitioner like myself where they just haven't been as common. And for a lot of people, it's not as available to them, maybe because of financial burdens and things like that. But there are wonderful resources, too. There's all kinds of books with the information that's available to us today. There's podcasts like What You're Doing Here. and books and YouTube videos and so many resources. Any of these modalities that I've been talking about here today, internal family systems, somatic experiencing and hypnosis, there's tons of free material just for people to start to dive in. And I would say that, you know, what is possible there if you do go down that journey of working with any of these modalities is so worth it. because that feeling of really being in the present moment and being yourself is, oh my gosh, it's like, I mean, it just liberates people in so many gorgeous ways. I mean, I see clients at all stages of life, when they're in their 20s, in their 60s, making profound shifts, things that they never thought they could do. So, I mean, people, you know, it's, and also I will say in all, for all of those examples of in different stages of life, also with like lots of people that have, you know, really tons of trauma, you know, coming from abuse and many different situations that they thought would be impossible to move forward from, they can. And that's not because I'm doing something for them. I mean, I'm guiding them. But really it's, it's about. my clients finding within themselves their own resiliency, their own

Sue:
Thank

Stacia Aashna:
truth,

Sue:
you.

Stacia Aashna:
their own courage and that ability to be with that. So it's pretty remarkable.

Sue:
That is so remarkable and I'm always, I just love it when people start doing that healing work because for so long you kind of store it inside, you shove it away, you're just, you act like you're over it and then if you even try to think about it, it's like I'm not gonna, I can't get over this, but it is amazing what we can do as human beings, right?

Stacia Aashna:
Right?

Sue:
this notion of healing, like really, really traumatic things and like liberating yourself of that is so amazing.

Stacia Aashna:
Oh, yeah. And the way you described that, too, that's a defense mechanism. And I don't blame anybody who is doing that. I mean, I did that lots. There's all kinds of ways that I protected myself through shoving things away. We have to survive. And in many cases, it is necessary to do that. How are you going to be able to handle doing all these things? I was just working with a woman today. She works in. She works in a hospital. She's got a ton of responsibilities. And it's not realistic for her to be able to just sit and be with her trauma all the time. And to really give that at this stage in her life, she has to know how to compartmentalize and how to put things to the side and say, all right, I have to focus on this today. And I can't. I just have to take this stuff. And I have to put it over here and not think about it or work on that. And that's OK, right? We live in a world that is constantly challenging us. And many of us have a lot of responsibilities. And we can't always be truly as open and as present as we want to be.

Sue:
And now, what about some practical guidance for people to begin? I know this is like a longer deal where you work clients through the whole process, but just some practical tips for those listening to begin to start kind of getting more in like present awareness.

Stacia Aashna:
Sure. Well, my first suggestion for anybody, if you're starting to build habits, positive new habits, like you could start with a mindfulness habit, or maybe it's a journaling practice or something, something that is regulating. And when I say regulating, I mean, it brings you into a state of presence. It's in my somatic work, we're constantly working on resourcing and finding things that help to bring our nervous system into a place of calm and balance. And first I would say, you know, discern what those things are for you. If it is meditation, if it's going for a walk or a run outside, spending time with your pets or reading, whatever it is, to actually be intentional about doing those things. We live in a world and a society and culture where we are all kind of go, going all the time. And when you're doing that, you're not really giving yourself moments to really sit down and be with yourself and your feelings and to be present and slow things down with yourself. You wind up just bypassing a lot of important stuff. I mean, the slowing down is what allows us to connect with those deeper feelings. and truths inside. But when we're rushing all of the time, it's impossible to really be truly connected with ourselves. And start small, like start with a very small habit. If it's meditation, five minutes a day. Build and work on that for maybe a month. And the point of that is to create the habit so that you can build off of the habit. But I really recommend titrating. and adding in very incremental positive shifts, things that are resourceful that help you to feel more calm and present. And that can be very unique to the individual what that is. It could be laying in bed with your partner at the end of the day and just maybe just laying together or putting your hand on your partner's heart and breathing with them. There's so many things that can help us, Again, we're really, I think we get into this, a lot of us get into this state where we're just always hustling and never really being present with ourselves. And it's understandable, but that really wears on you because it keeps you in a hyper, like hyper arousal, where we have all this, call it sympathetic activation in the nervous system. That means that you're just anxious, worried, hypervigilant, doing a lot. And when you're stuck up there and you're not regulating, you're not balancing and coming down into a more present calm and relaxed state, your nervous system stuck on sympathetic is not healthy for the physical body either. I mean, it creates a lot of disease in the body, autoimmune disorders, digestive issues. A lot of this stuff is correlated with this kind of stress, keeping that static in your body for so long. your body and mind and to be intentional about it.

Sue:
Thank you. Wow, that was

Stacia Aashna:
Hehehe

Sue:
really great practical guidance there. I love that. Thank you so much for that. Now, and you know what's interesting though, because so many people kind of are doing it subconsciously, keeping themselves busy. Like you say, it's slowing down is gonna help you get in touch with those feelings, but obviously, right? Some of that trauma is so hard for people to acknowledge. It's almost like they're keeping busy not to slow down, not to be with those feelings.

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, and I get that. That is often, you know, there's, that is also often a defense mechanism. It's a protective response, right? Because it's scary sometimes to slow things down and to be with ourselves and to feel things that we are constantly trying not to feel. And that's why I say, you know, just really be gentle and easy on yourself and you don't have to go like full blown into, all right, I'm gonna like. I'm going to do an hour of meditation or I'm going to go really into this practice. Just start really small. If it starts to feel overwhelming, then pull back. It's about building resiliency and that takes time. We don't want to overwhelm our nervous systems by trying to move too quickly either in terms of healing because then it will… give us the opposite reaction, then we will want even more to not slow things down. But I think it's important to recognize that this logic that somehow like go, going all the time works for us, that is an outdated logic. It doesn't work. I mean, just look around. Look around at your family. Go to work and look at how people are functioning. It's not working. People being stressed out and just you know, working themselves to death is it doesn't work. And so I always say, you know, well, okay, this defense, this is obviously a part, it's coming from a part of you that is trying to support you. You want to get things done. You also don't think you can slow, you don't have the time or the bandwidth to slow things down. You're afraid of regressing and, you know, maybe like losing the traction that you're making in your life with whatever it is that you're doing, but how also is that hurting you by doing that? And that's what you wanna look at is really like, is this really totally working for me? And then maybe just do like a

Sue:
Thank

Stacia Aashna:
trial

Sue:
you.

Stacia Aashna:
on yourself and try just incorporating a little bit more either mindfulness or some sort of practice like I had mentioned before. and just see how it works, see how much more productive you might be when you feel more calm and balanced, right? I know I don't do well when I'm stressed all the time. I start to shut down and I get very overwhelmed and I think that most people could probably relate to that. But if I'm taking time for myself and taking good care of myself, I'm a lot more productive. I'm also way better for my clients and for the people I love and care for.

Sue:
And you know, I

Stacia Aashna:
Hehehe

Sue:
love this thing you said about even just sitting down or, you know, laying down with your partner with your hand

Stacia Aashna:
Mm-hmm.

Sue:
on their heart or so that kind of incorporates that somatic thing. But

Stacia Aashna:
Mm-hmm.

Sue:
you could even just kind of do that with yourself, right? To kind of just

Stacia Aashna:
Oh

Sue:
get

Stacia Aashna:
yeah.

Sue:
in touch with yourself.

Stacia Aashna:
Absolutely, yeah. I mean, you can just practice. And that can be, you know, this is, I work with people who have quite a lot of trauma. So even like, putting your hand on yourself might even feel like a big move. But if it is available to you, don't pressure yourself even, you know, if that's too much, if that even feels like, oh, I don't know that I can do that, then don't do it. But if you do try it and it feels okay, just to let yourself, you know, breathe and feel the comfort of your own touch. And again, if that's too much, sometimes it helps even just laying in bed. And recently I got a wonderful weighted blanket and just feeling the pressure on my body feels very supportive, feels very relaxing. We are so lucky in today's world, there's so many great tools that you can get weighted blankets. I'm not sponsored by any weighted blanket companies, but I highly recommend

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
a good weighted blanket. It's a weighted blanket and then I have a fantastic body pillow that wraps around my whole body and I put myself in like this little body pillow egg bed

Sue:
Thanks

Stacia Aashna:
on top

Sue:
for watching.

Stacia Aashna:
of my bed with my weighted blanket. It feels so therapeutic. I love it. Yeah, it's one of the best situations I ever created in my home space for myself.

Sue:
I just got a weighted blanket too. I've had insomnia for so long, but it really is like, I just saw somebody online talking about it and I'm like, you know, I need it. This is like the one thing I have not tried on my insomnia. It's

Stacia Aashna:
It's

Sue:
amazing.

Stacia Aashna:
amazing.

Sue:
I love it.

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, and for people who go into a state of freeze or disassociation or disconnection, weighted blankets are really great because it puts pressure on your body that helps you to orient you more to your body. Because freeze, disassociation, disconnection, these are all, this is all a sign that you're feeling, that you're disconnected from your body and we need to get grounded. So that's why I like the self-touch or touch with another person that's safe. It can be really great. And if that's too much or if you want something additional, weighted blankets are awesome because they help you to feel, oh, yeah, OK, there's that. You can feel your body more because of the pressure on your body. It's cool.

Sue:
I

Stacia Aashna:
Mm-hmm.

Sue:
love how you put that. I love that you love weighted blankets too.

Stacia Aashna:
Ha-ha. I highly recommend.

Sue:
Now, you know, talk to us about, so you're also a hypnotherapist and how does this work? Like what exactly is happening there when you're doing this?

Stacia Aashna:
Sure. So hypnosis is a wonderful tool to help us to go into deeper, into our subconscious essentially, so into these deeper parts of our mind where things like our patterns and our beliefs are stored, all of our memories, the stuff that we really want to get to, right? The stuff where, you know, this is like the source of the problems. Whereas with talk therapy, because we're working with the conscious mind, all of our defense mechanisms are there and they really, our minds are so protective and good at keeping us away from the subconscious. But with hypnosis, because we're going into a very deep state of relaxation, it allows a lot of that mind stuff to relax and kind of step to the side so that we can work with the subconscious mind. And I say all hypnosis is self-hypnosis, so my clients are always in control of the session. I am merely guiding them into their subconscious mind in a conscious way. It's very empowering for people because it's a tool that it's often, especially for their first timers with hypnosis, they didn't know they could do this, that they could actually really get into this deep, relaxed state and then using imagery, repetition, positive suggestions, we can actually start to influence the thoughts in our subconscious mind or reframe negative thoughts so that we can actually get our subconscious mind to work a little bit more for us to get different results. So I use hypnosis for a range of issues, everything from fears, phobias, addictions to primarily age regression for people who want to heal childhood trauma. And when I'm doing that with my clients, we also bring in internal family systems. And I help people to really make a positive impact on these parts of themselves that are frozen in those younger, more developmental years.

Sue:
written.

Stacia Aashna:
And we can actually have amazing, amazing shifts where there was maybe a... traumatic event or memory that has just been plaguing them. And, and we can actually go back and heal and reframe that and update that aspect of them so that they can feel more embodied in the present moment and less, less of a grip from that, that experience. So it's really just deep, deep relaxation, which we, we accomplished through therapeutic imagery. uh, therapeutic breath work and, um, and then it's kind of like a journey. It's, it's, it's almost like a

Sue:
Thank you.

Stacia Aashna:
very, very deep guided relaxation or meditation. Um, so it's, yeah, it's, it's wonderful. Uh, I, you know, I, I also like to tell people that you're thinking on average 80,000 thoughts a day. 90% of those thoughts are the same thoughts you had yesterday. Most of those thoughts are negative. So why is it that, you know, we're dealing with the same patterns day after day, it's

Sue:
Thanks.

Stacia Aashna:
because we're thinking. We're literally thinking the same thoughts every single day. And we're not getting the results that we want because of that. So hypnosis is a great way of kind of updating the hardware here. Like, okay, this is not working anymore. What do we need to change? And it's very practical. It's very safe. And it can really move the needle very quickly for people.

Sue:
Now I would imagine Nina with hypnotherapy, I've done it myself and I know it's very You know focused and you're talking

Stacia Aashna:
Mm-hmm.

Sue:
to the client directly in their issues But what are your thoughts on like some of these guided? You know Hypnotherapy things that are out there Is that something you want to kind of get into more once you've kind of worked? One on one with somebody or what are your feelings on that?

Stacia Aashna:
I guess what's the, I'm not familiar with what's the guided hypnotherapy thing.

Sue:
I mean there's different kind of, you know, things on YouTube and stuff, right? Where you can do like a little guided hypnosis.

Stacia Aashna:
Oh, sure. Yeah, those are great. Definitely do them. I think a lot, any of those things are really great tools. The difference of working with a hypnotherapist is that they will structure, working with someone like myself is I structure the sessions very specific to you. Things like language, the words that my clients use is really important because I want to really tap into their subconscious mind. These are generalized recordings that are made for anybody, right? And so if you really want to have a very strong impact on your mind, on your subconscious, you want to work with a hypnotherapist who can create a session that is very specific to you and your goals, your language, the way that your mind works. But yeah, I mean, I would also still very much recommend those recordings online. a greater impact potentially, I would say work with a hypnotherapist one on one. But that's a great place to start too. If people are curious, there are wonderful people out there that are putting out great resources.

Sue:
And now for people to work with you, can they work with you online? I'm sure you do a lot of that, right?

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, actually, most of my work is virtual these days, and they can just find me on my website. It's just my name, stasiaashana.com. And I do hypnosis. I also have a coaching program that I run with private clients, and it's amazing. The work that we accomplish together, I create a program for people who are really looking for a deep dive. and a big leap in transformation for themselves. And we do that over the course of six months. And then I have a couple of different group programs that I run, group coaching programs. And in most of those offerings, I am infusing all these different modalities. I'm very invested in my clients. And I feel very confident about all the things that I'm blending together. to give my clients a really holistic path that's going to make the greatest impact in their healing.

Sue:
I love that, that's so beautiful. Now, Stacia, let me ask you, so for people out there who are kind of stuck and struggling and don't know where to start with some kind of childhood wounding and things that they wanna start working on, what is your guidance? Do you have some advice for those people? What would you tell those people?

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, I think that it's you're not alone, first of all, and don't try to do it alone. Because that is often trying to do everything alone is often also perpetuating a lot of that trauma. For many people who, who experienced trauma, they probably had to do a lot of that on your own. And so it is a gift to reach out and ask for support, even just the very act of reaching out and asking. for support whether that is through working with somebody like myself, a licensed therapist, even going to a support group. Even just that step alone has a lot of therapeutic value in it because it changes that narrative from I have to hide this and I have to do this on my own and kind of like white-knuckle it to, no, I deserve to have love and support. around me to help me to get through this. So that would be like, I guess my message that's coming up for today is really, you don't have to do it alone. And we're also not wired to do these things alone. We are wired for connection. And so give yourself the gift of allowing support into your life. And sometimes we have to seek that out too. I mean, I always have had to, but. When you do find it and you really tap into either that kind of support, you'll see how much there is available to you.

Sue:
Wow, that is awesome guidance now. Okay, so a couple of things. I could have saved that question for like another minute, but a couple of

Stacia Aashna:
Ha

Sue:
things.

Stacia Aashna:
ha.

Sue:
One, I just want to say you've been so awesome and so insightful and you've had like so many wonderful tips and practical, you know, applicable advice here that I think people are going to be able to use. And I just thank you so much for your time today.

Stacia Aashna:
Thank you so much, Sue. I really appreciate that.

Sue:
Yeah, you've been awesome. And now in closing, you just said all these amazing things, but what is that message you wanna leave us with in closing?

Stacia Aashna:
Yeah, just to that you're not alone on whatever journey that you're on and definitely give yourself the gift of asking for and seeking support in your life because there's a lot of beautiful people out there that are also doing this kind of work and want to support you.

Sue:
Oh, I love that. That is an awesome close. You've been so wonderful. Stacia, thank you so much.

Stacia Aashna:
Thank you, Sue.

Sue:
Thank you.