Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Creative Visioning With Celia Barsby

Blossom Your Awesome Podcast Creative Visioning With Celia Barsby

Celia Barsby is a creative visionary, cosmic soul guide, Author, Speaker, Trainer, Transformational Coach and she leads soul purpose retreats.

She is the author of the Garden Party.

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Transcript

Sue (00:00.962)
Hi there, today on the show we have got Celia Barsby here with us. I am so honored and delighted to have you here. Welcome to the show.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (00:09.417)
Thank you so much. Thank you. So it's lovely to be here.

Sue (00:12.562)
Oh, I am so excited to have you here. Okay, get into your story. You are a creative visionary, cosmic soul guide. I just love that. You're an author, speaker, trainer, transformational coach. You lead soul purpose retreats, workshops, you have online programs. Give us the backstory how you got into this line of work.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (00:34.953)
So, you say that again?

Sue (00:36.37)
Give us the backstory here, how you got into this life.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (00:38.761)
Backstory, sorry, just missed that last bit. The backstory, what lies under the garden? What lies behind, in the secret garden? That's where you want to go today. So I guess the backstory is I have always been a teacher. I was a teacher when I was seven, and I used to line my dolls and Teddys up in my playroom, and I had a blackboard and I had a mark book, and I just loved teaching.

Sue (00:49.495)
Yes.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (01:09.005)
And I dropped into the resistance of, well, when I grow up, I am not going to be a teacher. You know, I spent all my time playing at being a teacher. And then I went, oh, no, I don't want to do that. And the universe had other plans for me. And so I did become a teacher. But as I moved through my life, teaching in traditional education.

teaching my children and when they were at home. I didn't homeschool as such, but you know, we teach our kids how to navigate life. And then I was working with teenagers and I just felt that real pull, that tug to say, there's something else that the universe wants me to be doing. At an age when lots of women my age,

would be retiring, you know, putting their feet up, going and, you know, sitting, doing their knitting. And the universe went, no, what we're going to do now is we're going to have a new career at the A, and bringing that crone wisdom. I quite like the word crone. There's lots of people that would go, ooh, but I quite like that crone wisdom, bringing that to the world and just supporting women. So that's a little bit of my story. I...

experienced bereavement when I was a child. That was transformation, that was a pivotal moment in my life. And so when I'm working with women, we always look for that pivotal moment because that then informs our story. So I talk a lot about story.

Sue (02:54.606)
Wow, I love that. So give us a little more insight here about, you know, you say you experienced bereavement and I would imagine that's not the case for everybody, right? That pivotal moment. So how do we kind of recognize that moment in our own lives?

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (03:18.193)
I think when you look back at your life from whatever position, you know, however old you are, if you are listening to a podcast like this, there is a reason that you are being called to look at your own journey. And so usually in my experience, I talk about...

Your deepest wound is your greatest medicine. If you are watching this video, if you are listening to this podcast, you feel you have medicine to bring to the world. You want to make a difference. You want to make changes. And that often, the people you work with and your calling often starts with a challenge that you have worked through.

Now, when I was 10, childhood bereavement wasn't even considered, you know, the word trauma around childhood bereavement is relatively new. But, you know, there's so many women that have experienced a trauma of some description. I didn't recognise childhood bereavement, I didn't recognise my divorce as a trauma until I went, oh, I've learned something from this experience.

And so what those pivotal moments are when you do your greatest transformation, when you learn something huge about yourself. And as I say, I think women that are watching this podcast, listening to this podcast, will go, oh, yes, I have that moment when things shifted. And you're right, it looks different for lots of people.

Sue (05:09.343)
Mm-hmm.

Sue (05:13.854)
Yeah, and I think, you know, and now I love that we're having more of this kind of mental health conversation in terms of healing and trauma and old childhood wounds and things, revisiting those because so many times we don't deal with the bereavement or the things at that moment. Life just, you know, and you as a child going through that, you have no idea how to process and how to...

heal through that and then it just layers kind of form right and then you are going back as an adult honoring recognizing and healing

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (05:51.421)
Yeah, yeah. And there was a certain aspect of going back to that age 10 child and then recreating and saying, right, what shifted? Because what happens when we experience this trauma in whatever shape or form that is, it then informs the rest of our story. So we start to see life through wounded,

childhood stories through, I think about it as putting on a different pair of glasses of spectacles or even a filter and we then see everything that happens to us in life through that filter. So my filter was the people you love will leave you because I lost my dad and my Nana in a very short period of time. So the people you love will leave you.

And that then informs all of my relationships until I experienced a breakthrough. The world called it a breakdown. You know, I experienced depression at the age of 40. It was, I was 40, it was 30 years after that moment, that pivotal moment that I was able to, I then had enough tools, I had the mental capacity, I think, to actually go, oh, I'm ready to look at this now.

And I think you're right, the acceptance of these conversations around mental health has shifted just in the last 10 years. And particularly through lockdown, people were suddenly going, oh my goodness, you mean, they were even becoming aware of mental health. People who had never experienced any challenges were suddenly...

Sue (07:27.758)
Mm-hmm.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (07:44.693)
isolated and you know as humans we need community and so yeah it's I love that these conversations can happen now.

Sue (07:55.558)
I love that. And this is so, now talk to us about this idea, the creative visionary. I just, I love those two terms. I love the concept. Where was that? What was that born out of?

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (08:12.589)
Ooh, what a lovely question. It came from, first of all, my owning my creativity and understanding and acknowledging that I am a creative soul. And then realizing that what I also was able to do was to access another reality.

So through creativity, I was, I'll use a really simple example. I would do a Facebook Live. I would do a creative process, which I felt was just me. I'm doing this for my benefit. This is my daily practice I'm gonna share. And then women would say, oh, that was just perfect. That was so what I needed to hear.

That's exactly how I was feeling. And so I then owned and claimed and understood that I wasn't doing this work just for me. I was actually tapping into the wider collective, which is how those two, the visionary piece, but through creativity, that sort of joined together.

Sue (09:33.778)
Oh, I love that. That's so beautiful. And now tell us Celia, what about, how do you use that to then help others kind of awaken to their soul purpose? And we'll get more into that. But that must play such a, you know, hearty role in that.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (09:51.493)
Yeah, so, you know, I think this journey of self-discovery and, you know, looking at your soul purpose and what are we here on this planet to cause and create, we can get a bit heavy. It can all get a bit serious. You know, you go, oh my goodness, look at the state of the planet. And, you know, if you could go down that, you know, when we do the work of transformation, I talk about shadow work.

Sue (10:07.31)
and I'll see you next time.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (10:18.857)
because it is in our shadow work, it is in the times of challenge that we really experience the greatest transformation. So let's do it in a creative, playful way because what happens when we do that is we, our brain is sort of going, they're put on, we send our fear to sleep a little bit.

Sue (10:22.231)
We'll see you.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (10:47.645)
Because fear's going, oh, that's all right, she's just throwing paint at a page. She's just scribbling. She's not doing anything scary or risky, but it's at those moments when you can really anchor in and go, oh, well, actually, what is happening here? I mean, I'll share a beautiful recent example I was working on a page all about, what do I want to release?

all of the old stories because you know I'm working with, I work with old stories because they keep coming up and we keep transforming them at different layers in our life. And the journal I have had a ribbon through the centre of the page and I was writing across the page and I kept bumping into this ribbon. I kept going, well I can't write, the ribbon is in the way. The ribbon is a barrier. What?

is stopping me from writing across my page, what is stopping me from releasing? And so I took the ribbon, I moved the ribbon, I moved the barrier and suddenly you go oh that feels so much better and then we can take that into our daily lives and go you know what, you know what is the barrier, what is coming up, well let's just move it out the way and then we can move forward. But and that just comes from...

playing quote unquote with some paint and some felt pens and doodling and drawing. And there's a little bit of magic there, I think. You know, it's fun.

Sue (12:28.092)
And you know, and I, like you just said, I love this idea of the kind of magical, whimsical, like what you're bringing here to the table, right, versus it being kind of hard and daunting and dreary and dark and all of this. There's this lightheartedness that we can tap into while finding our purpose or doing that healing work.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (12:52.261)
Absolutely, and I think, you know, I mean, I use, I talk about the garden party, but I use the symbolism of the garden because it's just, it's just never-ending source of inspiration to me. And, you know, I'm really blessed. I'm looking out. I love podcasts this time of year when I can be in this room, when I can see my garden, because my garden is, you know.

the trees are waving and we're in the energy of air and you go, you know, this is all about new ideas. But the work, you know, and as soon as you start thinking about gardening, you've got, you know, A, it's a beautiful place to be. It does require a little tending. It requires self-care. Are you looking after your garden? There's areas of my garden that need a little bit of weeding, you know, what needs to go.

And the symbolism just goes on and on and on. And, you know, my invitation is always just to really lean into the magic and the symbolism behind gardens. And, you know, it is that whinzy. I imagine the fairies playing in my garden at night when I've gone to bed.

Sue (14:13.274)
Oh, I love that. And so how, what is some practical guidance for people just at home to bring more of that kind of whimsical feeling, a more lighthearted, kind of activation?

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (14:29.141)
Sure. So I like to invite people, the women I work with, to look at their experiences and to really feel into their emotions with a spirit of curiosity. Like, you know, access your inner child, connect with your inner child who goes, oh, that's really interesting. You know, you've only got to, I mean, I'll confess.

to not really having a very fond relationship with frogs. I don't like frogs very much. They crop up every now and again, because I recognise that when frog shows up, think about a frog, a frog lives on land and in water, the physical world, the spiritual world, the frog moves between the worlds. And I get it, the frog is a powerful symbol for me.

But a small child would go, oh, that's really interesting. Oh, you know, let's lift up this rock and see what's crawling around underneath. And I remember a time in my life when I went, I don't want to lift up that rock because I don't know what's gonna come crawling out. But if we can go, you know what, let's come at this with a spirit of curiosity and oh, I wonder what happened. Again, the creative process is so powerful because

If you're working in a journal, you can go, oh, I wonder what would happen if I put this color paint on my page. I wonder what would happen if I add this. And so it encourages you to try new things because at the end, you know, your brain goes, oh, that's all right, they're just working on, you know, bit of paper, that's not, but you're changing the way you see things. You're changing behavior because if you're somebody who,

is a little bit worried about getting it wrong. If your fear critic pops up as the perfectionist and says, well, I can't possibly do that because I might get it wrong, you know, there will be people nodding at that and going, oh, yeah, I recognise that voice. But when you're working creatively, you go, well, it doesn't really, you know, I can't really get it wrong.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (16:49.677)
it's just as it is. And so you build up your resilience muscles, I think you build up your that spirit of let's have a go, let's have a go, let's see what happens. So those are some of the practical tools. I do talk a lot about journaling. I like writing and I appreciate not everybody has that love of writing.

But for me, when I write morning pages, which lots of women will come across, Julia Cameron, The Artist's Way, if you've not discovered that yet, go and look up that Julia Cameron. And so it's a process of free writing. And it just allows you to write down anything, anything that's in your mind, anything that's in your head.

and gets it out of your head, clears the space so that the universe can give you the new ideas. So I advocate journaling as a powerful practice.

Sue (18:00.122)
That's such great practical guidance, Saracelia. Now talk to us about this notion of reawakening to your soul's purpose, because I find that so many people are not necessarily content or feeling fulfilled in their work or finding some kind of deeper purpose or meaning.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (18:27.701)
So I'd like you to consider that you are the person, you are the, you are a soul, you have your soul inside you, who is the perfect person that you were created and designed to be. So you aren't needing to, you know, go out and become something other than you are. You are just reawakening that.

deep place inside of you. Your soul purpose is hidden inside. I talk about find your magic within. You have that magic, you have that treasure within you. But we, like all buried treasure, you know, we bury it, we lose the map, we can't find what it is. Somebody's taken the key, we don't know how to access it. But we are just reawakening. We're just

allowing that to come to the surface rather than having to learn something. You don't have to learn anything new. You know, I do talk about learning, I talk about growing, but we're not really learning anything new, we're just growing into who we were designed to be. So that's where the reawakening comes.

Sue (19:48.438)
That is so beautifully put there. We're just reawakening to who we were designed to be.

I love that. Now talk to us about soul resources and soul structure. Give us some of this insight here around this.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (20:11.341)
So you're... this is tapping in to...

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (20:19.573)
connecting with your spirituality of who you were designed to be. You know, it's the structure. The structure is there. The structure is there for your soul. And when we start to really embrace our, our whole selves as a spiritual being, having a human experience, that then allows you to really access parts of

of this whole beautiful world that we were not taught about in school. So it's the spirituality piece. It is talking about sovereignty. You are the ruler of your life. You are the only one that can make the decisions about how you want to shape your life. I talk about creating your magic.

when you're co-creating with the universe, these are some of the ideas behind the soul structures because that's what our soul wants to do. Our soul wants to create with us. And it's when we start to really connect with that inner wisdom that we can then, creating is then easy. We go, you know, it's not difficult. It's not hard. It's not hard work.

because you're just doing the work you love because you're so connected to it.

Sue (21:49.486)
And you know, it seems though, do you find that people struggle with this?

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (21:58.777)
Absolutely. And because we, you know, we have so many limiting beliefs, we have, we have, let's talk about, let's talk about the voice of fear. Okay. Because ultimately, the only thing that ever stops us doing anything is our, that voice of fear, which is a very, people, I mean, I'm

I'm not a biology expert, but it's the reptilian part of our brain, the amygdala, which is programmed to look out for danger. Now, in tribal times, when we were out on the plains, that was a brilliant skill because we would be scanning the horizon looking out for saber-toothed tigers, and we needed that skill. Yeah.

Now there's not so many saber-toothed tigers around these days, but the amygdala, that reptilian part of our brain, is still looking out for danger. And I used to think that I had to silence the voice of fear. And you go, well, actually fear is part of you. Fear is there to keep you safe. And so...

I like to have a conversation with fear and say it's okay, I've got you know, it's alright, I'm you know, go and have a, I give fear a blanket and go and go and lie down, we're okay, we're you know, we're just we're just going to do some creativity, don't worry. Now another beautiful phrase that I heard was fear is there to check that you have everything you need, so we encounter

Sue (23:43.427)
Thank you.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (23:49.541)
our limiting beliefs, we encounter the voice of fear, when we are about to have a breakthrough. When you are expanding and growing into new ideas and you're, you know, you're encountering those next steps, fear is gonna go, oh my goodness, what's she doing? And I like to think, fear likes to dress up, well at least my fear does, and you know, other people may find the same thing.

So fear has, she likes to dress up as the procrastinator and she'll think of 101 things I ought to be doing before I do the thing that I've said I'm gonna do and I put it off. So the procrastination is just your voice of fear. Self doubt, oh, well, I don't think you could possibly do that. You can't possibly do this, you're too old.

You know, Fear is very good at telling you all the things you can't do and why you shouldn't do it. Voice of Fear. I'm sort of feeling this, you know, who else? What other character does Fear like to play? A big one for me is...

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (25:10.353)
You're not good enough. You're not good enough. Who would listen to you? So it's that putting up the barriers. And the only reason fear is doing that is because fear wants to keep us safe. Fear thinks it's doing...he, she is doing the right job to keep us safe. And so, and especially in the world of creativity...

Creativity and fear go hand in hand in my experience. So understanding where that voice is, and you're going, and you know, I think of my voice of fear as a bit of a shape-shifter, because as soon as I recognise the procrastinator, the self-doubt, oh, comparison queen, she pops up every now and again, as soon as I recognise that, fear will put on another hat, and it can sometimes take me a while to, you know, ah!

Sue (25:44.955)
That's so amazing.

Sue (25:49.168)
Thank you.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (26:09.561)
Oh, it's just fear. I fear. And so, you know, I think that, again, it's that creative, playful curiosity when we are not gripped by that panic. And, you know, it can be uncomfortable, but, hey, when we're uncomfortable, that's when we move. That's when we shift. Because if we're in our comfort zone, we're less likely to do the work of transformation.

Sue (26:39.642)
I absolutely love what you've shared here about fair and almost we're kind of minimalizing it in a very practical way, right? By giving it these, okay, this is just, you know, me comparing, this is just me with the self-limiting beliefs. This is fair is stepping in to awaken that creativity and see what's really possible for me on the other side.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (27:06.289)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think, you know, sometimes, you know, we all experience those moments when we go, you know, what on earth is going on? You know, I'm very English and I, you know, but there's lots of swear words you might put in there. But I go, oh my goodness, what on earth is going on here? And so I like to work in my journal and

Normally when in my creative journaling, I always write right across the page because as soon as we cross that centre line, we are activating the left and the right side of the brain, so it's very powerful. But if I'm in a, oh my goodness, what on earth is going on type moment, I will work on one page, usually on the left, and I sort of literally hand fear the pen and go, come on then, what's the matter?

And I write and write and write and write. And eventually, fear will come up. You'll write something and you go, that is just so ridiculous. That is so not true. And then you can start to shift it because sometimes we do need to peel back the layers to really find out what is going on. I think that's where my resilience piece comes in. I talk about going through the mill.

in a very slightly old-fashioned, you know, mill that is grinding the flower. And it's a powerful symbol of the work that we do because it is, it is, we do get to do the work and it is noisy and it can be a bit uncomfortable. But that's where we experience the transformation. If you think about, you know, grindstones crushing the grain and creating the flower, then you have, then you've got, then you've

creating the bread that sustains life. So it's a powerful visualization of the work that we're doing.

Sue (29:15.286)
That is so insightful because it seems like, and this is not something we don't always kind of marry the two where it's like, okay, there are fears around this breakthrough or creative breakthrough, right? And we're never kind of putting those two together where it's like, well, if I do some inner kind of soul journeying here with my journal, that's gonna allow me

to maybe create more freely or get into this flow state or really discover, awaken that purpose.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (29:52.061)
Yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, and you can do it very intentionally. I often, if I'm feeling a bit stuck, if I'm feeling, you know, I just need a bit more movement, I'll work in watercolors. And you go, I just want some more flow. I just want, you know, and I'm not talking about creating masterpieces like you see behind me, you know, which are beautiful watercolors. I'm talking about...

spray in some water on a page and dropping some different colors in. But I'm working with watercolor, tipping your page around and going, I just need to create some movement. And of course the magic that happens in our brain is that, again, I'm not an expert in this field, but what happens is your brain doesn't know the difference between creating movement like that on a page and in reality.

It's the same, it goes, oh yeah, I'm creating movement. Beautiful. And so it allows you to take that into your daily life because you go, oh yeah, so well, I've done that before, haven't I? Oh yeah, I've created movement. And so it's, I love, I mean, you can tell I'm passionate about it.

Sue (31:08.658)
I can, I love it. You embody so much passion around this. And I love this idea, Celia. Again, you're so, you know, we're talking about people being stuck in awakening purpose here, but this notion of like simplifying it the way you do, where it's like, you're like, okay, you can just, you can create movement through these activities.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (31:29.373)
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I have a favorite media. Well, I say favorite. I love working with oil pastels. And again, we're not talking canvases, we're not talking beautiful artworks here. But I often recognize that there are times

Sue (31:43.671)
Mm-hmm.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (31:56.893)
when I'm feeling a bit of resistance around, you know, my next step, because, you know, I'm in expansion, I'm growing, and so all of the time, all the time you're growing, all of the time you're expanding, you are going to meet those edges. You're going to meet the edge, and as soon as you meet the edge, there's a little bit of resistance, and that's what we move through. And as soon as I start to sense that, I find that I'm called to work with oil pastels.

because oil pastels, if you remember, or even wax pastels, they're wax crayons, Crayola. They are a resist. And so you can work with that, and you can work with that on your page to create that resist, to create a new pattern.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (32:53.681)
I've lost your video.

Sue (32:53.838)
I oh, okay. I can still see you. So I think we're good there. Can you hear me just fine? Oh, okay. Yeah, that's really it's so beautiful. You're bringing such a different kind of just again, whimsical idea to this, you know, notion of like healing and going deeper and like

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (33:02.385)
Yeah, yeah, I can hear.

Sue (33:20.722)
a self-discovery through creativity.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (33:24.689)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's, you know, I think our inner child, our inner wisdom has got so much to share with us, so much to tell us, so much to teach us, that when we drop back into that whimsy, when we drop into that playful curiosity, then that's when our soul can really start to reveal the next part of our journey.

Sue (33:56.714)
Wow, Celia, that's so beautiful. And again, you know, because so many of the conversations I have around healing and trauma and overcoming childhood, you know, wounding and things, they're hard conversations. It's hard work and it is right. And we're not making light of that whatsoever. But this beautiful idea that I just absolutely love that you can tap into that.

in a kind of more fun, more lighthearted, more creative way is so powerful to me.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (34:30.893)
love to use the phrase deep work. The work we do is deep. We do deep work. I have been through, you know, in my story I share the times that I have experienced depression. Probably two intense times in my life now. I look back and see those as a dark night of the soul. Those were the times that I

went through the greatest transformation. The second time I had more tools and what I realized, I came across the beautiful quote, no mud, no lotus, and realized that it's in the mud, it's in the mud that we get to do, you know, let's keep this light, because I'm, you know, you go, if I want to plant seeds,

I go into the garden and I dig the soil. I get my hands dirty. I work with the mud. I work with the soil because that's where the nutrients are to plant the seeds. So it's no good me saying, you know, well I don't want to go into the garden because I might get my hands dirty because well you go, well you're never going to grow anything then. You know, we've got to get in there and get our hands, hands mucky. I remember times.

where I just wanted to go and actually handle the soil. You know, it's beautiful. Go and get, especially, winter's a funny one because, you know, in the UK, the weather's not conducive to me really walking barefoot on the soil, although I have in the snow. When I'm scary, I just need to be earthed. But you know, you can plant even in the winter because that's, we plant our seeds and our bulbs in the autumn and the winter ready.

for the spring and the summer. And so, you know, you've got those beautiful seasons as well that we work with. And, you know, there are times, there are times when we get to rest. And of course the world doesn't teach us that, you know, it's a 24-7, every month is the same. They go, no, you know, as women, we don't, we don't live like that, but we know we live in cycles. And so when we start matching that, we start to really understand.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (36:58.505)
what it's like to be in flow and honour and acknowledge the times when we just need to rest, when we do need to be still and we do need to look after ourselves and that's self-care.

Sue (37:08.942)
Thank you.

Sue (37:13.634)
And and I think like you say, you know honoring those other times it's got a this notion of creativity and kind of pulling the crayons out or your paints or whatever it is for you or just doodling for a moment and kind of a carefree state is awakens so much of that kind of sense of calm and peace and deeper joy that we We don't

I think rely on enough or turn to enough.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (37:43.829)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we, you know, we receive information through our Crown Energy Center. We receive information by vibration. And that vibration shows up, first of all, as colour and as symbol before you get any words or images. And so, you know, there's a great practice of just saying, you know, I'm just going to...

pick a pen at random and I'm just gonna doodle. And how many of us have sat in meetings where our inner child has gone, this is really boring. Have we been in meetings like that occasionally in the past? I have, and you find yourself doodling. You know, that's your inner child going, I am very bored, let's doodle. And it would be lovely to go back and look at those and go, oh, what's coming through? What color are you using? You know, what shapes are you doodling? Because that...

is information coming in to your energetic system.

Sue (38:48.246)
Wow, I love this. This has been just such a beautiful, magical, it all feels whimsical conversation. I wanna go grab my crayons. I don't know how I'm gonna be able to access the tools I need after this, but hopefully I have them somewhere. But it makes me kind of wanna, like you say, revert back to this carefree, like childhood wonder almost that we lose as adults.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (38:58.708)
Mops.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (39:17.629)
We do, we do. And we lose that because of the life experiences that happen to us. And it is through our challenging life experiences that we learn. We learn by doing the things that we can't do. And we go, I couldn't do it and now I can. And that's how you grow. Because I go back to a teacher, if a teacher only ever gives you the same lesson.

over and over and over again. That's not going to, A, you're going to be really bored. You know, and you're not growing and learning. So if you move, there's a real sense of movement that wants to be woven into this conversation.

Sue (40:09.378)
Wow, that is beautiful Celia. Okay, so a couple of things. First and foremost, you've just been so awesome and so insightful. You've shared so many beautiful practical tips for people to kind of tap into their own childlike wonder and creativity and get away from that hard stuff or do it in a lighter way. I just, I love that. I love that.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (40:36.929)
Yeah.

Sue (40:38.986)
So I just thank you so much for your time today. I'm so honored to have had this exchange with you. You've been so awesome.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (40:47.541)
Thank you. Well, Blossom, you were awesome. I mean, well, I love that title, you know, and we just allow that flowering of awesomeness. Brilliant. Love it.

Sue (40:57.247)
I love that. And now in closing, you've already said so many wonderful things. But if there was one message, your hope for everybody, what is that closing message you would like to leave us with?

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (41:11.025)
going to share a quote with you and I might need to just grab my book to make sure I've got the quote right. It's from by Clarissa Pincola-Estes and she talks

Sue (41:16.044)
Yep.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (41:27.161)
about being in flow and being in the creative life and I include this in when I'm talking about that going through the mill where we learn our resilience, we do the work required and we learn to be in flow and the quote is this it's from women who run with the wolves and if you've not read it yet you need to go and get yourself a copy because this was my first

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (41:56.949)
To bring back creative life, the waters have to be made clean and clear again. We have to wade into the sludge, purify the contaminants, reopen the apertures, and protect the flow from future harm. That's it really, that sums it all up.

Sue (42:21.247)
Oh my God, I love that. What a powerful close. Celia, you've been so awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Celia Barsby Soul Garden Party (42:29.117)
Thank you for having me, thank you.