Quotes about change: "Trust your intuition and get out of 'Supposed to ville.'"
Imagine waking up one day and deciding to abandon everything you know to find your true self. That's precisely what Lisa Rose Lodeski did when she left her successful career as a private art dealer, turning her world upside down. As we chat with Lisa, she walks us through her soul-searching journey that took her from Hawaii to Europe and back, all in the bid to understand who she truly was without the constraints of societal expectations.
But life had more twists in store for Lisa. Just as she was adjusting to her new life, her husband suffered a catastrophic accident, forcing her to pivot yet again. In the midst of this unexpected change, Lisa discovered the strength to navigate her husband's health crisis and accept help from her friends. She opens up about the challenges she faced, and how trusting her intuition provided solace and a sense of control, even in the face of overwhelming uncertainty.
Throughout our conversation, the recurring theme of trusting one's intuition becomes apparent. Listen as Lisa shares how she harnessed her intuition to attract almost magical solutions to her circumstances. Her story serves as a powerful reminder that we all have the ability to take control of our own journeys, trust our intuition, and embrace change. If you're on the brink of a significant life transition, you won't want to miss Lisa Rose Lodeski's inspiring perspective.
Quotes about change: "Trust your intuition and get out of 'Supposed to ville.'"
Imagine waking up one day and deciding to abandon everything you know to find your true self. That's precisely what Lisa Rose Lodeski did when she left her successful career as a private art dealer, turning her world upside down. As we chat with Lisa, she walks us through her soul-searching journey that took her from Hawaii to Europe and back, all in the bid to understand who she truly was without the constraints of societal expectations.
But life had more twists in store for Lisa. Just as she was adjusting to her new life, her husband suffered a catastrophic accident, forcing her to pivot yet again. In the midst of this unexpected change, Lisa discovered the strength to navigate her husband's health crisis and accept help from her friends. She opens up about the challenges she faced, and how trusting her intuition provided solace and a sense of control, even in the face of overwhelming uncertainty.
Throughout our conversation, the recurring theme of trusting one's intuition becomes apparent. Listen as Lisa shares how she harnessed her intuition to attract almost magical solutions to her circumstances. Her story serves as a powerful reminder that we all have the ability to take control of our own journeys, trust our intuition, and embrace change. If you're on the brink of a significant life transition, you won't want to miss Lisa Rose Lodeski's inspiring perspective.
Welcome to. So you Want to Move to the Country and Raise Goats? This is a podcast about change. Change is all around us and sometimes we're ready for it and sometimes we're not. When it overwhelms us, well, we just want to move to the country and raise goats. This podcast features stories from people who have gone through change. We hope that their insights will help you better understand and deal with the changes in your life. I'm Peggie Koenig and, along with my co-host, Catherine Gryba, we chat with insightful people with interesting change stories. We hope you enjoy our podcast.
Peggie Koenig:Lisa Roslideski had two life transformations. One was planned and controlled, and the other happened when her life was turned upside down, when her husband was in a serious accident. Lisa talks about achieving an element of calm when you take control over parts of change that you can't control. She challenges us to trust our intuition and get out of Supposed toville, where a lot of us live. Well, today we are welcoming Lisa Rose Lideski, from California, to the podcast. Hi, lisa Rose. Hello. Now, you and I we first met I guess we have never really met face to face, but we met in a writer's community when you reached out to me and said hmm, I have a couple of stories of life transformations that you might be interested in hearing, so I'm delighted that you're here to share those today. And two stories, two stories of transformation. So would you like to just start right there and just tell us where that all came from, what happened to you and what was the change in transformation?
Lisa Rose:All right. So I've had two very different changes that I wanted to share. One is from my professional life, where I completely changed careers, and I did that at age 50. And at age 50 in my career, I was a private art dealer and art consultant. You know, fine art appraiser, a curator. I was in the fine arts industry, fine arts realm loved it, loved it, loved it, did. Well, that's what my graduate degrees in, that's how people know me, that's why they would take my phone call and it was wonderful. And around age 15, two things happened. I had checked off everything on my to-do list for my career. Everything I wanted to accomplish I was able to accomplish. At that point I was very, very happy. And the other was in the US. Anyway, there was a big recession that was coming. You know, around that time period, 2007 to 2010,. You know it started in the commercial sector and then it became across the nation and at that point even my billionaire clients were saying things like it looks really bad if we buy art now. Lisa.
Lisa Rose:So I knew that my business was not going to do well and I had to make a choice at that point. Either I could continue to spend money on my business, keeping it present, keeping it afloat without an income stream, or I could say you know, I've done pretty much everything that I've wanted to do here. Now I'm going to turn 50. Now would be a time to consider an exit plan.
Catherine Gryba:It's really interesting that those things happen at the same time that you said you know I've done everything I really wanted to accomplish and it sounded like you were okay and ready for a change, and at the same time, jesus recession. So why not Interesting how that happened at the same time?
Lisa Rose:Exactly. So that was a change that I was thinking about and decided to choose for myself, but then the difficult part was okay, now what?
Catherine Gryba:What next.
Lisa Rose:This is this. I had a little identity crisis. To tell you the truth, I was a little concerned of who am I now? What do I want? Do I want something similar or do I want something completely different? Now I came to a place of privilege where I did so well that I could buy myself some time and float and think about what I wanted, and still my bills were paid Right. So I just want to qualify my experience that way. I was able to take off a couple, took off a year to think about it.
Peggie Koenig:So what was that process like? Because I think a lot of people you know they not a lot, but the people that do go through career change and, as you say, it's an identity crisis, Right, what are? What were some of the things you did that would help you move along or become enlightened as to what the next path was going to be?
Lisa Rose:I chose to travel because I believe that travels the great teacher. And I chose to travel mostly alone. I'm married but I'm a very I have a very contemporary marriage. So he said, and I decided, that I would do home exchange. I would exchange my home. I had a home in Hawaii and a home in California. So I decided that I would exchange my home in Hawaii for homes in Europe and I thought I'll do that for a little while and I'll go by myself and figure out who. Who am I now? Who am I now without having to make concessions in a relationship or in a business? You know, what is it that I want? Can I? Can I get quiet enough or distracted enough to be able to hear my inner voice? And what is it calling me to do next? So that was one.
Lisa Rose:One choice that I made was to really change up my situation, my living situation. So I would bounce from Hawaii to California, to Europe, to California to Hawaii, to that. I did that. I thought it was going to be for a year and it ended up being. It ended up being for 10 years total.
Lisa Rose:But the first two years I was trying to figure out my next step. So the second year I felt called to do some training or some research into something that I dabbled in as a young woman and that was intuition, development, spirituality, energy, work. And so I took that second year to find a teacher to study and I I here was the big changing point for me is I went into a bookstore. I was looking in the metaphysical section of the book or the travel section those are my two favorite sections and I'm in the metaphysical section and I am by myself. Right, it's like Monday afternoon there's nobody in our by myself in this aisle and I was thinking, what am I going to do next? And I heard a book drop off the shelf behind me and I thought, I thought maybe somebody was behind me. So I turned around and I saw this book on the floor. I picked it up. It was a book called Trust your Vives by Sonya Schoket Never heard of her. Put the book back on the shelf, turn around and the book dropped again.
Catherine Gryba:Oh, my God.
Lisa Rose:And the hair on the back of my neck went up and my hair on my arms was raised. And I knew, because I was intuitive since a child. I knew that this was the moment that my entire life was about to change, and neither I was for it or I was going to run out of the aisle, out the door to my car, and so I picked up the book same book, by the way, same book so I thought okay.
Lisa Rose:I'm going to read you cover to cover. It was a Friday, it was a Tuesday afternoon. We read you cover to cover. By Friday I had called Fanzone to show Kat and I called her office in Chicago. I said you know, I just read your book. I said to her assistant she's my teacher, can she be my mentor? How does this work? And they said you know, she's starting a class next week in Chicago on professional intuition development. There's one ticket left and it was so expensive for me, it was like I was like so expensive, it was going to cost me thousands of dollars and I just said yes and a plane ticket.
Lisa Rose:And I cleared my calendar and a hotel and I went because I knew. I knew that I had found my path forward and I trusted. I trusted that intuition, even though it seemed irrational and ridiculous to me to be doing it like that. I usually want confirmation or a synchronicity or something, but I didn't do it that time. I'm like no, this is it.
Catherine Gryba:But, lisa, you had such a discipline to know that you needed to quiet yourself before you made any decisions and I think for many of us going through change, we feel such a pressure, a rush to make a decision and while you had the luxury I'll say it, the luxury of taking the time off, I do think that's really important for us to think about somehow finding that quiet space in our life to think about it or to not think about it and just be quiet. I think that's just so insightful.
Lisa Rose:I call it a sacred pause. I call that a sacred pause when you feel the change coming, or you want change, or your desire and change, but you're not quite sure yet what the next step is or where you're going to go. Think of it as a sacred pause and I like to use the oh, let's say. I guess it would be a metaphor. Maybe it's an analogy of surfing. You know, if you're surfing, there's a time when the waves become flat and the big wave already went and the next wave didn't come, and you're in a pause and in that pause everything is possible. You can get out of the water, you can go deeper, you can take the wave. You can not take the wave. You can see what's coming. You have a better perspective from the beach all the way out to the sea. And I often use that as an example and say don't be afraid, don't be too quick, don't be too quick to paddle out, just have a good look at yourself, your situation, possibility. It's also a great time to just sort of.
Lisa Rose:It doesn't cost anything to do your homework, like I was in the bookstore cruising through books for free. It's like a library to see what is it. I'm looking for a sign. I was looking for something. I wasn't really quite trusting my inner voice yet. I wanted something to tell me where to go next and what to do, what to think about. And that book flew off the shelf and that pretty much did it for me.
Catherine Gryba:You got a repeated sign that fell off twice.
Lisa Rose:I got the sign and then I got this confirmation and the synchronization all at once. But, that was a big moment. I was scared. I thought what are people going to think? What are the people going to think when I say I'm going to be a psychic? I'm actually in tuition development and I do soul coaching, which is different People's soul records and help them through transformation and figure out who they really are.
Catherine Gryba:And so that's what you're doing now, is it? You transitioned into a new career.
Lisa Rose:Yes, that's what I do now. But I sort of settled there. I started out as a Reiki master. I started studying Reiki, reiki energy. Someone basically used me as their demo when they were studying Reiki and it felt so good, it was so wonderful and I thought what is this? And I studied and I think I have six levels, I'm a Reiki master three different times and then from there I knew that I wanted to professionally get training for intuition development. So I was intuitive as a child but I really didn't know. I know what was going on. I didn't know how to work with it. I didn't know how to protect my own energy, things like that.
Peggie Koenig:What exactly is an intuitive Lisa?
Lisa Rose:Well, your body is your intuitive instrument, so everybody's intuitive, whether you know it or not, or like it or not. When you strengthen it, you can do more with it, but what it is, it's being able to sense, interpret and take action on vibration. It's vibration, energetic vibration that's hitting your body, it's hitting your body all the time, and your instrument is your body, and your body and it's intuitive state knows which of those energies or vibrations it needs to pay attention to. And it can be refined, it can be strengthened, it can be used, and then it can be used professionally.
Peggie Koenig:So what did all of I mean? This is a big change. You were in the art world, you were a praising art, you were an art dealer, and it's a big change to move into the direction that you did. What did your past colleagues and connections think of this? Did they Was that, Did they accept that or did they know about it?
Lisa Rose:Yes, so most of my colleagues and artists that I worked with. They thought it was interesting to go from the fine arts to the healing arts. They were primarily supportive but curious. My husband, who is a scientist, I'm not sure he understood any of it, but I remember he said to me so what do we do now? We're going to get a tent and a crystal ball and we're going to set you up at festivals, or you know. So he was all in, even though he didn't understand what it was. Thankfully my mother didn't understand it at all.
Catherine Gryba:So I'm curious, going back to the identity crisis, because you know you said as an art dealer, people picked up the phone, I called and your identity was tied to that. How much is your identity tied to you being an intuition coach or through this whole change, has your identity been more around? It's Lisa, and not so much on what I do. I'm really interested in what your identity, what it feels like now.
Lisa Rose:Actually, my practice and my business feels like a natural extension of me, lisa, where when I was a private art dealer, that's something I was extremely interested in. I was very good at it. It was something that I did and did really well and I loved it. I'm not sure that it was an extension for me, because where I'm operating from now is from my soul. My soul is expressing itself. I create and offer what it is that I can share that helps others transform. So when I've learned about myself and what I'm able to do, what my gifts are, let's say, my qualities, my abilities all that it's now for the benefit of others beyond myself, my education. When I was an art dealer, it was benefiting me. I was able to get the job, I was able to walk into a room and I was qualified. People trusted me. I could do my job really well. That was a little part of me. But this new career that I have, where I decided to change, and it is really different.
Lisa Rose:It just feels like it's just me, my energy, what it is that I'm here to do at this point in my life and I think that that's one of the points that I didn't realize as a young woman was that it's okay to change, and sometimes it's necessary, and the person that you are now is not the person you are when you were 30 or 20.
Catherine Gryba:So we started this podcast by saying you went through two changes, and the one you've just described is very exciting actually to think of what you went through and how you did it, and it feels like you've really landed on your feet and for anyone to say it's an extension of me and it's part of my soul. You know that's a place where I think we're all striving to get to, so good for you. Tell us about the other change that you went through.
Lisa Rose:The other change is more recent and it's not but one that I chose right. This was change that happened to me. So just very quickly, the background story is that in my career as my new career, my second career in the healing arts there was a point where the internet became really good. Tech became really good. I used a lot of tech before because I was working with images right, sending images back and forth, but then video became great. This idea about creating online courses, you know, emerge and the tech did. The tech got so much better and I was already living in three places, so I wanted to change my business to an online practice where I could practice from anywhere in the world. I had the travel bug and my home exchange situation was going great. So that's what I was setting up and I was planning to move to Europe.
Lisa Rose:I was specifically to Italy, on Lake Como, for two years, so my husband finally agreed, after he retired let's go and we'll make your dream come true, lisa, since you've been pretty much following me around. So we made that happen and four weeks before we were ready to leave, my husband had a catastrophic sudden accident at home where his neck was broken. He was found him practically dead on the driveway. Something happened in the garage, you know. His car ran over and drug him down the driveway, broke his neck, spinal cord injury. My house was in the very end stages of being remodeled, something he wanted to do before we were going to leave. For two years I was sleeping on a mattress in my office on the first floor Could not have happened at a worse time although that would be worse in any case and everything just came to a halt. I had to unravel all of our plans to move. I had a friend that was going to move into my house. You know it was, I think I was just walking around in shock. For the first two weeks. We didn't know if he was going to live or die. For the first 10 days he can only move his eyelashes and his fingertips.
Lisa Rose:I was ready to close on my house in Hawaii because our deal was if we moved to Italy, I was going to let go of the house in Hawaii. So all of it came crashing down, all of it. I didn't know what I was going to do. I didn't even know anybody who ever had a deal with that. I didn't know if I was going to have a quadriplegic on my hands. I didn't know if I was going to bring them, I didn't know anything.
Lisa Rose:So that was really really, really hard and at the same time, I didn't want that. I didn't want any of that. I didn't even want to negotiate that. I struggled against that. You know how are you going to fix them Once you're going to be fixed, how am I going to save him? What's this going to cost? You know I'll pay almost anything to get this fixed.
Lisa Rose:And at the same time, you know here's the hard part about that is I was frustrated. I would say I was also angry, right, I was also angry that my dream was now squashed because of something that I didn't decide, I didn't do. You know, I didn't set that up. There wasn't anything that you could cause. That Was it at any end? It was an accident. It was. You know it was an accident, but that was just so hard. And then you feel guilty for feeling that way, because you're not the one with the broken neck and ICU, you know. So how do you deal with accepting that you are having something happen into you that isn't life threatening, and then this other person is having something, but it becomes very suddenly you realize it becomes a we situation that's no longer here. It's a we situation. We have a broken neck and we're paralyzed and we have to figure it out.
Peggie Koenig:So, lisa, what were some of the things you did to work through that anger and guilt? Because those are very powerful emotions and they can really debilitate you. Were there certain things that you did in order to help yourself. Well, it gets past that.
Lisa Rose:Oh yes, almost immediately. I the very first thing I said to myself. I think I was even looking at myself in the mirror. You know, for the pep talk I was like you're not going to have any alcohol, you're not going that direction. You're not even going to take an aspirin. You're going to make sure that you have food to eat.
Lisa Rose:Because when you start unexpectedly caregiving your self-care I've seen this happen to others, but I witnessed it with me Immediately you just put yourself on the back burner. I didn't care about my own, I didn't keep my own healthcare appointments. So the first thing I did, the very first thing I did, was I hired a massage therapist to come to my house once a week so that I would be forced to lay on a table and not move for an hour and have somebody's hands on me Again. I could afford that luxury. All right, so that. But that was the very first thing. I thought no, nothing that will affect my brain, in case I've got to make a really big decision. I'm not going in that direction to deal, shall I say. I decided self-help, so I did the massage. I forced myself to find a few minutes to meditate. Twice a day I took long hot showers and sometimes that included my meditation time.
Lisa Rose:You know, when my friends started delivering groceries, I knew that and I could pull my shorts off with that and buttoning them, I knew that I wasn't eating, taking care of myself enough, so I started accepting their help. I can't tell you how important this is Accept help from your friends. They're going to show up. You'll be shocked underneath. Shocked at who runs that you thought you could depend on and who shows up that you had no idea would be there for you. That was one of the biggest learning experiences I've had. And one of my friends said to me Lisa, create a to-do list, because people are going to ask you what they can do and in that moment you don't want to have to think about it or feel guilty about what you're going to ask them to do. Create the list, be honest about it. If a score page is long, so what? And then when they call and say, how can I help you? Either give them the list or read things off the list and say which of these can you commit to doing for me?
Catherine Gryba:And.
Lisa Rose:I had three or four friends that showed up, cleared their calendars and showed up to take things off that list. I'm not kidding every day, because it was long. I was remodeling the house, I had to unravel plans to move. I had to negotiate everything a sale of a house. I had to worry about my husband's health care and was he getting the best or should I switch All of that? I had to do everything that he does for us when you're in a marriage, which is a lot. It was overwhelming. So my friends came in to hold me and support me and actually do the hard work. Whatever it was, I'm able to do this. So I did it.
Lisa Rose:I ordered regular grocery delivery, which didn't really cost me much more. I hired someone to mow the lawn and take care of the garden. I asked the neighbors kids to take out my trash cans. I hired a house cleaner and I thought, even if it's temporary, just dip into whatever funding I have and to get me through this until I can figure out what I can do and what I can't do. Eventually, my husband was in hospital the whole summer, after going from ICU to hospital to rehab hospital to 24 nursing facility, and then finally I said just bring all the equipment here to the living room. I cleaned out the living room. I got the house finished enough that I could bring them all. There was no place to put it. They had to argue with the hospital about I don't have a place for him and gee we want to get him out of here because we need the bed.
Lisa Rose:There's all kinds of things to consider, but in home care, I said yes to in home care too, which was big. At that point I said bring them home. And I have to say I walked into this. My friend Maria said you have to go to this store called Adapt2It in Laguna Woods in California. So they must have seen the look on my face when I walked in, just in shock and not knowing how I'm going to do this. And they looked at me and she said we know, we see this every day, know how to help you.
Lisa Rose:Why don't you come here to the counter, tell me what's going on, bring the list and we'll lead you to what you need and what you don't need. You need a hospital day, you need extra padding, you need probably this, you need this, you need this. And the list went on and on and on. I'm telling you that was. And on the outside of the building it says when you can't change it, adapt to it. And that, ok, ok, I'm so disappointed I'm not in Lake Como in Italy having my online practice. Now I'm at home. But the caregiver I'm going to do this job really, really well.
Peggie Koenig:There will be no stone unturned, all the research, everything, that is, I think, like getting through a crisis like that, when you're in crisis mode and making promises to yourself to take care of yourself. I think that was really important and finding the help that you needed and leaning on your friends, but moving to that place where you can say, now I'm going to be the best at doing this. That had to be very difficult, like the resilience that it would take to say, okay, italy's not going to happen, right, and this is my life. How did you? How did you sculpt that? How did you do that?
Lisa Rose:Well, I gave myself 10 to 20 minutes a day for my own pity party. Hey, I love that.
Lisa Rose:So I yeah, like for my own pity party, sometimes I would do it in the shower when the water was running over me. I would have a crying fest in there and then that would be my time right. Other times I have a studio, my studio, here, I have my practice up. Have I just shut the door and try to meditate and try to let go of again anger and the anger, the frustration, the disappointment, the. You know why. You know why me, I, you know.
Lisa Rose:I lined up everything perfectly. You know I couldn't have done anything better. You know why. You know why does this happen? And I thought well, you know, at some point I just have to accept that I can. You know, everybody has changed. Now I can remember my husband. I told him his situation right, told him how bad it was, and I was having one of those moments and I had it in front of him. I had it in front of him, which I tried not to do, but I did. And he said to me Lisa, there are people out there who have real problems, god.
Peggie Koenig:Reality check.
Lisa Rose:Aw, this I'm going to recover from. You need to get on board with that and pull it together. It was a little harsh. And then I looked at him and there he is and heads not even attached to his body, except for the neck brace, because he didn't have a surgery yet, because he had an artery a small artery erupted His brain. They're afraid he would have a stroke if they did it. So we had.
Lisa Rose:That's why we had to live all summer like this and I thought, you know, he's right, we're going to handle it, I can handle it. You know, yeah, this is disappointing and I will do this. Well, and you know what? This is just a chapter. It's a chapter that I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn something in here and, as I said at the start of this, this isn't the book I want to write. This isn't the one I want to read. It's not the experience I want to go through. I wish I didn't know as much about this topic as I do, and here I am. So I thought well, you know, this is this too is transformation and change, and I had gone through transformations and changes previously. Some of them were really great, some of them a little bit more challenging but this is another one and then I will try to find how this will serve me and then serve others beyond me. I'll find a way.
Catherine Gryba:You know, Lisa, just listening to your two very different experiences, what I'm hearing you talk about is is you picked areas where you had control, you know, when choosing a change in your career, that was your choice. You had control over what happened and how you did. It was, just you know, really inspirational. But you also then took control over your self-care and you then took control over your approach to it. Is I am going to be the best at this, so is that right? Was that whole taking control of the parts that you could? Was that really important in kind of both situations?
Lisa Rose:Well, I think that when you have control, or you choose to take control of your situation, there's an element of calm. It is a way to get peaceful about it because now you're in charge. So I wasn't in charge of my husband's situation, but I was in charge of my situation. So the other thing I wanted to add about that in this change that I didn't want to have happened, because I was intuitive and I trusted my intuition, that really helped me see some of the signs and I would say that I even attracted to myself easy solutions Like, for example, my neighbor who I don't really know that well kids were helping me with the trash cans came over to my door about two weeks before Bob came home.
Lisa Rose:My husband came home and I had to take care of him at home and she knocked on my door and she said you know, I know you don't know this about me, but I'm a psychologist and I work in rehab facilities and here's my card and you don't know this yet. She said but you are going to need to put him in a rehab facility and when you get to that point.
Lisa Rose:I want you to call me, because with my PhD I can get the paperwork signed where I can get him in any place that's appropriate, and I can do that for you, right.
Peggie Koenig:So that's just one example right how I felt like.
Lisa Rose:How did you know?
Lisa Rose:How did that happen? I didn't even know what I needed. Suddenly, that happened when I when he was in ICU and I was putting the finishing touches on selling my house in Hawaii, I needed his signature and his hands were paralyzed and I didn't want that deal to fall through. I called my one of my friends and this is within the first day or two of that situation. I was in pretty bad shape mentally. I didn't know what was going on. I was doing sanity checks with all my friends to help me and she said I called my friend Alice, whose husband was an attorney, and she said I'm a notary and this is a special occasion. I can give you my notary. There's a process and you, all you have to do is get a stomachache. You can do that, can't you? And I'll walk you through it.
Lisa Rose:The things were just sort of it just felt like magic was happening all around to help me, and I believe it's because I'm not sure how to say this. I want to say my vibe is hot. I feel like I can ask for things from the universe that I can get help, and so I asked for help and it will, it will show up. I remember reading that in one of Sony's books called I think it's called trust your guides, where you help will come, but you got to ask for it. So I thought, well, I don't know how this is happening but I'm going to keep asking, and I had many examples like that and I know it's not luck, it wasn't.
Lisa Rose:I'm not lucky, it's, it would never happen, but I was able to draw it to me and recognize it when it was coming.
Peggie Koenig:It's quite fascinating to me, lisa, that you went through this career change and you moved into understanding your intuitive side and energy right, and then you find yourself in this personal situation, which is it needs every piece of that to get you through. It's almost like first came A and then came B, sort of like how life evolved out for you, so it was very, very understanding the energy and the intuitive really helped you a lot. I think getting through this crisis with your husband yes, and also that's that's why I share it.
Lisa Rose:I have an intuition development course for women who want to learn how to refine and strengthen their own intuition. I deal with transformation by taking a look at their soul records and saying, well, these are some of the choices that the soul made that could have created this particular situation. But mostly, I really believe that a lot of us are stuck in what I call supposed up supposed to do this, I'm supposed to do that.
Lisa Rose:Sometimes I refer to it as living in supposed to fail, You're supposed to listen to the doctor when they tell you that he's probably not going to walk again. You're supposed to take this drug. You're supposed to do it this way, you're supposed to do it that way. And I left supposed a long time ago. You know, as a young, as a young child, and that was kind of difficult because you're challenged when you're not willing to live in the box, particularly as a female right, and you know exit is supposed to for soul town. So my soul is my pilot, my intuition is my daily guide. It was only through a lot of practice and small baby steps and trusting myself that I got to the place when, when I really needed that ability, I was able to call on it and trust it, and that happened at 60.
Catherine Gryba:Lisa, I have to ask how's your husband today?
Lisa Rose:He's best now. He's better now. He's the best he's been in four years. So thank you for asking the long road, though. So, yeah, yeah, that's really. That's difficult to come back from something like that. There are leftover residual health issues that will never be gone as a result of that, you know. But he's on his feet. He's driving, no drugs for pain. His gate, his gates a little off, because when you fix your neck, you know you can't swing like him. He doesn't play tennis, he doesn't ski, he doesn't go in the water anymore. But, like me, he decided that he was going to adapt and go through the change and find joy in other ways.
Catherine Gryba:Well, thank you so much for sharing your stories with us and, as Peggy said, it's amazing how they started off as two stories, but they really are one, aren't they? They're it's your life story, and it's interesting how the universe gave to you first something you needed in order to deal with the next thing it was throwing your way.
Lisa Rose:It's a wonderful observation. I'm not sure that I saw that initially myself, until you just said it.
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