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Rockstar Entrepreneurship: The Life and Successes of Modern Rock Star's JT Holmes
From collaborations with Modern War Zone and The Phoenix Suns , to celebrity-like shopping sprees at Walmart, Holmes' life is nothing short of a thrilling ride. He unravels the inspiration behind his Modern Rockstars brand, and the invaluable lessons he gained from artists. Holmes candidly talks about his journey in the apparel industry, his future visions, and how he feels like a rockstar off stage too. Come, join us on this inspiring ride, and learn how Modern Rock Stars are made!
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Speaker 2:What up, ladies and gentlemen? This is Stadio Shade. You're listening to Seasonable Clout and I'm up here with my second, second sound sad, my second interview, my video interview, and I'm sitting up here with my guy, JT Holmes.
Speaker 1:What up, what up.
Speaker 2:Who is a co-worker of mine. We talked about this before because we had a mess up, so I had to run it back Sometimes when they could do fuck up sometimes, and I had to run it back. You know what I'm saying, and I just hit that mic too. What's going on, man? How was your day today? It's Friday, bro, it was busy, hella busy.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm an entrepreneur, so life's busy when you're an entrepreneur, and especially having good business. I got a brand, modern rock star that we're gonna talk a lot about, but I had to get my hair done. That hit me up to be a second guest in this podcast. Well, you look a fly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you the hair look good. You know, I gotta come up with my brand. You got the modern rock star alone.
Speaker 1:I learned a lot from the best influences out here.
Speaker 2:That's what's up, man.
Speaker 1:So I had to get my hair done, got my hair curled today. Shout out my homie Cash. I got my hair cut. Shout out my homie TCO.
Speaker 2:You wasn't playing till you told me you was like nah man, I can't do nothing until Can't be looking ragged yeah until I get cleaned up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna have to push this back just a little bit.
Speaker 2:I'm not flaking on you, bro, I'm not, it's okay, man, trust me. What is a quick little morning? Yup Life for Homes. How's you know a guy who is the founder of modern rock star? I want some a little morning.
Speaker 1:Yup.
Speaker 2:Well, wake up, hit the coffee too. I'm a coffee fan too, but I'm already too deep in. We're gonna get to the coffee addiction. We're gonna get to the don't judge me on it.
Speaker 1:Well, first off, I'm a vamp, like a late night vampire, up Cause. I'm like, even when it's like two o'clock here, it's like five o'clock in New York, right, people are waking up, right, so I don't wanna be. I know if I can wake up, or, before I go to sleep and make some promo posts, they're gonna wake up and see them fresh on the timeline On Twitter. Yup, I'm not calling it ex Twitter.
Speaker 2:I don't need it. I don't need it, I don't need it.
Speaker 1:So like I wake up, wake up around 9.30, 9.45. Get like six hours of sleep roughly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I wake up, first thing I do is I get up out of bed. I'm not like the one to just lay down, don't want to show, and I'm in bed for 30 minutes after I wake up checking my phone. I usually wake up meditate, 15 minutes, meditate, meditate Jason Stephenson meditation you a sensei?
Speaker 2:No, you a ninja?
Speaker 1:No, I just got to control the mind.
Speaker 2:What's up?
Speaker 1:A lot of thoughts creep in and they don't have people doubting themselves.
Speaker 2:Well, you here now is. I get off track sometimes.
Speaker 1:I'm a rambler, I'm just saying what, I'm just meditating Right into a meditation. Yeah, what is that? How did that come about?
Speaker 2:You know you a nigga to meditate. You don't see too many niggas that meditate yeah.
Speaker 1:We don't work on themself, though.
Speaker 2:Okay, talk to me about this meditation. How'd you get on?
Speaker 1:that it got started with me being in this network marketing company called Vima. Yeah, we sold energy drinks, all right, I was away from me to make money in high school.
Speaker 1:Oh nice, I'll go to these meetings, these guys I was speaking yeah, they would literally play videos for us and every one of these videos would talk about meditation and the biggest artists like Big Sean, oprah, went Free. Everybody talks about meditation and law of attraction. So I'm like how do the rich get rich? Everybody search. Their basic search is how to make money online, but that's gonna give you bullshit because everyone's gonna post about how to make money online as clickbait, so I'm not searching that. I thought I'm like all right, let me search the law of attraction, because I found that word and I found a lot of videos about it. So I studied this thing called the Secret. It's a movie on YouTube.
Speaker 2:You heard about it. Yeah, I heard about Secret. I watched that like four times. Really, oh my God, that's what you were doing. Yes, change my life. That's what's up.
Speaker 1:Change my life Because, like I realized, we all have this power right, you all have this power to like, change your mindset and get that real energy.
Speaker 1:And you can really attract that when you're thinking positive thoughts. But you can also attract negative shit by thinking negative thoughts. So if you're not meditating, you don't even know what you're dealing with. You got a bunch of shit going on in your mind. So meditation helps me clear my mind. I'm not worried about the stress when I'm meditating. Then I wake up after a meditation. Sometimes I might fall asleep Be another 15 minutes, but then I wake up so energized Like, oh, I feel good, I'm productive already, so I've meditated before. I even checked my phone. Oh, that's it, I'm not you check my. I could get a bad text message and now I'm mad in bed like the fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:So I don't want to get distracted quick Right. So I meditate, clear my mind and I'm knowing I gotta manifest more more money, more friends, more business.
Speaker 2:So I get in the shower and I play old rock music. Do you? Yeah, I asked you that. I asked you that we had a meeting. I asked you what are you playing the morning?
Speaker 1:Tell me about the playlist, the 80s rock essential playlist on Apple Music 80s Rock. How old are you? I'm 28.
Speaker 2:You're 28.
Speaker 1:You're playing 80s, 80s, rock, rock. You said essential, essential. That's the playlist. Give me one record Behemian Rhapsody. There you go, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, that's a good one for them. The boy got class, but we'll maybe get into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which will lead to. Will lead to talking with me talking, lead to me talking about my brand, because I got inspired by old rock music.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So but basically back to my morning. I'm listening to old rock music. I'm hype, I'm lit, then I'm like all right, I'm out of shower, I gotta walk my dog. Yeah, I gotta make sure my dog is straight. Then I feed him, then I leave. I go straight to the shop. The shop's five minutes away from my house.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So close to me, so I was like I've been living in this spot for four years, so convenient for me to go to the shop now across the street go right back home Tell them what the shop is.
Speaker 2:Fliers direct, okay, gotcha Okay, keep going, keep going, keep going. My bad, I'm at the shop.
Speaker 1:And I use this shop as like a library study session, everything in one. It's not. If I'm in my house trying to work, I'm distracted. I can lay in my bed. It's hard to work at home. Oh, it's the worst, I don't know. I get it for people that's been working in offices and cubicles all their life, so working at home is comfort for them. They're not distracted.
Speaker 2:They're happy to be at home.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. They're happy to be home, but as an entrepreneur in my house, I feel like I'm trapped. I like to be able to talk to somebody. Let me work next to you.
Speaker 2:That's crazy how the home can turn into a prison when you work. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:But my home is my zen. It's like after I just had a productive day, I'm back home, I can lay down, take a nap, get on my game. I'm good. Yes, right. Usually work stops Like physical labor. Work stops at 5.36. Then I go home and I'm working on my laptop for about three, four hours targeting new people, finding, tweeting irrelevant shit, getting new followers, you gotta learn to line them up and then attack Drake said it If I lined them up with a tweet, a viral tweet.
Speaker 1:I had a viral tweet that went off this week 400,000 impressions.
Speaker 2:Wait, what was the viral tweet?
Speaker 1:It was some dude walking into some crib in Skysdale, two dudes drunk outside their house in their apartment complex. Like the door's open. He walks inside, he goes. If I was a Godfrey man I would still all their shit Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1:So then he goes back to the guy who's laying in front of his door like you spot here. Yeah, dude snoring. Yeah, dude snoring. He goes. Hey, white man, get up. Oh, what are you lying. So I started laughing when I was watching the video. Yeah, there was some meme account in Arizona posted it. So I started laughing when I watched it. I'm like oh, if you got me to laugh I know this is a viral video, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to download it and post it on Twitter. Now we getting paid to post videos on Twitter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, offline press. Have you gotten paid?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Really, I'm going to talk about the amount, but yeah, ok, I just got paid today.
Speaker 2:You keep it that way.
Speaker 1:Like. Today was a little duckish Like yeah, wasn't much.
Speaker 2:Money is money. When you on social media, you get it given to you for free, for posting videos, exactly. I've been on Twitter for years.
Speaker 1:I get paid elsewhere by promo and using Twitter as a base and forum to get money. Yeah, right, so Twitter is everything for me. But I posted that video on Twitter and it went viral. So now I'm like all right, I'm going to target these people with anyone that's on my page. Like I got like 800 profile visits within like 10 minutes. Yeah, so I see everybody's on my page. I'm posting a video of my brand with an engaging comment Caption like support black business. It's called $0 to retweet this. Yeah, so now they feel obligated they retweet it. Everyone's promoting me yeah, but then anyone that follows me I'm best as them a code.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yo, if you haven't seen my brand yet, here's a discount code. Let me know. I don't even give them the percentage yet. I said I got a big discount for you. Let me know if you find something you like on my site. So now I'm getting them to go to my site, which my Facebook pixel is picking up all their information so I can use to retarget in ads. Yes, sir, so I lined them up with the tweet, got them to go to my website. Now they're doing action, screenshotting pictures like oh, I want this shirt, I want this hoodie. Now my pixels picking all that up. They messaged me yo, I like these, I'm like. Yo, I got a 50% off code for you right now, but you got to use it in the next hour or by midnight.
Speaker 1:So now I gave them a sense of urgency, yeah. And now they're like fuck this. And I'm like I don't give this code out often, don't post this code, don't tell nobody, and when you buy, let me know and I'll shout you out. So now they're like I'm buying, but damn, I'm getting promoted by JT and so I will tweet yo, shout out to that jaffer buying this hoodie Welcome to the family hashtag. Modern Rockstars and not my Modern Rockstar supporters. That are brand ambassadors. They all follow you. Yes, right, so I feel like my brand people love it so much out here. Like the random lame guys that don't usually talk to girls, are usually shy, they're used to wearing their Volcom hats and shit. They will buy my shirt. It's the funniest scene.
Speaker 1:They're pictures online Like I'm not judging you, but get it how you live bro, but they'll go to Scottsdale and they will get people who be like, oh my god, you're wearing JT's brand and they'll get it on video and send it to me while I'm laying in bed. Well, let's talk this.
Speaker 2:So, before we get all the way into the brand which we already in, that, month we, basically we already got our feet in that month.
Speaker 1:We in there.
Speaker 2:Where are you from? How did you get here? You know what I'm saying. Are you from Pluto?
Speaker 1:Are you from the marketing planet Neptune's? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Where are you from?
Speaker 1:From Minneapolis Minnesota. Born and raised, born in Virginia, moved to Minnesota when I was like four or five.
Speaker 2:Oh, gee, there don't you know Everybody trying to say we got accents.
Speaker 1:Everybody trying to say we got accents.
Speaker 2:Oh there, don't you know.
Speaker 1:Jt the first thing they say is Minnesota, minnesota, and it's crazy Rappers. Be like Minneapolis, bro, it's not Minneapolis, it's Minneapolis. You try, but bro it'll be better. I got you Video drops when we're from over in Minnesota, like we at Club Live Minneapolis. Like bro you killed the video.
Speaker 2:Well, you know I like to dive in to where you're from.
Speaker 1:But I like to talk about a little bit of the child. Dive me where I'm at.
Speaker 2:So, like, imagine yourself back in Minnesota, you know what I'm saying. And you, 13 years old, what was you watching? What was you into, what was you diving into?
Speaker 1:at that time? Cartoon network, cartoon network. What was the first thing that popped in your head? Fucking kids next door.
Speaker 2:What is kid Schooling? Yeah, schooling.
Speaker 1:Listen man, I'm old man, so kids, was basically they're kid teenage, not teenagers, but they're kid comic. It's a comic Animation, but like animation, but fucking. The kids are all like rebels. The parents are feeding them vegetables, they're making them do homework. So these kids are like yo, we're going to build up fucking treehouse and this is our spot to go to every day when our parents give us free time.
Speaker 1:But, these kids are actually spies and there's like seven of them. So these kids basically got guns and they're like trying to fight every bad parent. What so they're going in breaking in homes like on some spy kid shit?
Speaker 2:But it was a cartoon network.
Speaker 1:It was fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the magic. Why does that sound like something kids not supposed to be watching? But was it fun? It was fun to say Because it was like we knew our life ain't like this. Ok, we ain't mad at you, but it's fun to imagine Like what if you'd like to shoot my mom with Nerf balls Like. Nerf balls. Oh, I got what you're saying Pranks and shit, Like I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1:It was crazy. They had slides in the tree house, Like, but it was like. It was like fucking. What's that movie? What am I thinking of? What the yellow people all grew? What is the Spickle with?
Speaker 2:Me. Oh yeah, the minions, the minions is something like that.
Speaker 1:So it was like how Groot got his house later and there's a bunch of minions in there. There's a bunch of kids in here like fuck our parents, Stop it.
Speaker 2:So the kid version, like Project X or something like that. Yes, got you.
Speaker 1:Like a little bit like that. Ok, ok, let that.
Speaker 2:If you let the old man come with you, he going to stay with you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:The old man, that's just me talking. That's just some old shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You put a cigarette in my lip, I change your carburetor and give you some knowledge. It's what I do. You know what I'm saying. That's too easy for you.
Speaker 1:That's too easy. You need to do stand up. So.
Speaker 2:Nick alone. Old man, don't get me in trouble, you got to do stand up. You got to be laughing at this shit. So we, talking about you, said the kids next door. What was else you was into?
Speaker 1:Kids laboratory, kids fucking Dexter's laboratory, kids next door Fairly odd parents, danny Phantom, yeah, all of that.
Speaker 2:You miss any of it in a little bit of your childhood, do you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, all these shows.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd be streaming them whenever I'm just bored, just look, instead of like there's no fucking bio burger.
Speaker 2:It makes you feel good, though, don't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's nostalgic, it's like damn, but then it's like inspiration for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What do these shows all have in common?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The animation and the drawing look similar. All right. Well, I can take that same drawing right and now I re-vamp it into a modern rock star shirt. I did one like that. It was basically I used Curse of Cowardly Dogs, house right, but I had the Powerpuff Girls at Skeletons with fucking knives, bloody knives, and I was going to have courage peeping out the corner of the house and I was like I don't want to do too much, but I used to find as Cartoon Networks.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I had everything else, like if you know. You know, though, like that was a play on it for the 90s.
Speaker 2:I love that nostalgic shit yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love seeing the 90s baby sweets you go viral every time.
Speaker 2:Are you old enough to remember when folks used to go inside Pizza Hut and eat?
Speaker 1:Oh, on the top we used to go in my basketball.
Speaker 2:Really yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, you Damn.
Speaker 2:OK, we'll be traveling. I'm disrespecting your 28. Right now, I'm disrespecting your 28. I'm my back 22.
Speaker 1:I still, yeah, I know about box buster. These kids don't know nothing about it, that's real though, man I don't know what Netflix will send you to CD. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1:And I'm like damn $8. I have.
Speaker 2:Were you in Minnesota.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, minneapolis.
Speaker 2:Minneapolis, yeah, minneapolis.
Speaker 1:Nigger, we know we're in Minneapolis. I went to a Catholic private school, did you realize? Not many people know that about me. A Catholic private school A white butt, nuts white or black khaki pants, black pants how?
Speaker 2:were you as a student in the Catholic private school, I wasn't see like me in high school.
Speaker 1:Yeah Me, growing up is nothing like I am now. Really, I'm still the same person outside of the clubbing and shit Like during the week.
Speaker 2:I'm a nerd yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a computer nerd Like.
Speaker 2:I've loved it. You carry that thing everywhere. I've seen it. You carry that stuff. Yeah, I carry it.
Speaker 1:Larry, while I'm getting my hair braided and done today, when I got curled, I'll have my laptop out.
Speaker 2:What's the most nerd thing about you?
Speaker 1:The most nerd thing about me. Yeah, I don't even know like how are you going to answer that? Like I mean, I feel like I'm not as nerd as you Like.
Speaker 2:I'm not, I mean.
Speaker 1:I know about aliens and shit Like I'm into, I'm a conspiracy theorist Really. Yeah, Like I don't, let me get on TikTok at 1.30 in the morning.
Speaker 2:You think Beyonce is a reptile? No OK, I don't go that far, you don't go.
Speaker 1:Hell, no Like. But I was telling this girl the other day she was talking about zombie what happened if you were getting bit by a zombie. I said what if getting bit by a zombie is not what it is Like? They'd turn it to me oh talk to me now.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. I like this. What do you think happens when you get bit by a zombie? Maybe you go to a happy place.
Speaker 1:Maybe you're just dead, like she thinks you're still there, like I'm still JTNM, a zombie. I think you're just dead and now your body is taken over by a hive mind, like you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying it's like the last of us.
Speaker 1:They had a hive mind.
Speaker 2:I'm random. What's your favorite zombie movie? I'm random, I'm sorry, I told you. I told you I don't even know that I'm bad with names off the top of my head, I can help you out.
Speaker 1:Let's see what you got Double tap. Oh Zombie, Land Zombie.
Speaker 2:Land you ever seen. Dawn of the Dead.
Speaker 1:Dawn of the Dead.
Speaker 2:Dawn of the Dead? No, I don't think so. Ok, I'm not mad that you were saying Zombie Land. Zombie Land is your own first name.
Speaker 1:I'm not watching much zombie movies, I'm not a real zombie fan, but I like to see a trending shit. I'm like I'll check it out when I'm born at home.
Speaker 2:I know we be on the shows and shit like that, but I believe in aliens and all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ok.
Speaker 2:So you have, you had those moments where you're on the YouTube, meaning you're on YouTube and you didn't get way too deep and grab it too deep.
Speaker 1:You used to before they done, stripped all the conspiracy theories off of YouTube. That happened in 2019. Me and my roommate was like yo, why the fuck they do this? You know they're trying to hide, silence shit, but it's like, it's crazy because, like, 2020 is here, the pandemic is here, we don't know what the fuck is going on, right? So now everyone's conspiracy theories because they're at home and watching TikToks.
Speaker 2:Ain't got no time. Ain't got no time.
Speaker 1:You're watching the news every day. They're stealing toilet paper and all this. You better go and look, stack up right. But the crazy thing about this while we're all locked down, they drop a bombshell on us. Bombshell Fucking aliens are here. Yeah, I remember that you told us all our lives that aliens don't exist. So we were all. All that video, cgi, all the planes recording.
Speaker 2:It's all been fake, just where the balloons, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:But then 2020 comes, you're making us more scared. Yeah, right, you're trying to put more fear in us. So then you got the people like so if those were all fake and y'all telling them they're real, so those videos we've been watching all our lives were real? Yeah, were those real footages? Right, pilots talking about it? I think so. So now it's like OK, how long have they been here? What's going on? Now you just go down that rabbit hole and it gets deeper and deeper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be honest. Any time Netflix has an alien documentary, I'm all over it. I'm all over it.
Speaker 1:Alien documentaries and fucking all this weird nerd thing about me. I love animal shit.
Speaker 2:Like fucking National Geographic National.
Speaker 1:Geographic. I've just watched prehistoric fucking. It's a prehistoric show on Apple TV, but it's like dinosaurs, oh yeah, like on our planet.
Speaker 2:I got you. I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Better than the prehistoric shit, because the prehistoric shit is actually CGI. Yeah, I don't care about the dinosaurs, not a fan, never been, I've been. I love Jurassic World.
Speaker 2:I love the Titan shit, king Kong, you know, like you know, they got that one for Apple coming out. Monarch yeah, see, I know the names of shows I'm fucking with.
Speaker 1:That looks serious. Yeah. Oh my God, that looks really good. Yeah, I like that. I thought we'd get.
Speaker 2:And I'm not a let me see this man. The last nature show or the last animal show I watched was on Disney and it involved Will Smith. I think he was there. Yeah, it was really dope.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, and I'm not like a big fan of those. I'm gonna try my new season, I think, next this I think it's 24. Yeah, that's good, because he posted on his Instagram he's been traveling and doing all Anything he can do to get away from you know. I'm not like any documentary, like life shit. Yeah, oh my God, jada is a parasite. She's just like an energy vampire. I feel him because Will is such a spiritual person.
Speaker 2:He is.
Speaker 1:I watched a lot of motivational Will Smith shit, yeah. So I know a lot of his quotes. You know what I'm saying. So like watching him, like in nature now, when I'm already like nature, now you got me, yeah for sure. I know they did that on purpose.
Speaker 2:That's a double bond. That's a double bond right. Same with him.
Speaker 1:I watched any earth shit with fucking him as a narrator, or fucking, let's not Samuel Jackson. We're on the Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman, morgan Freeman, oh my God, god, basically God's voice. Louis V Mighty, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2:You ever think he'd get up to the heaven and God be like. Well, let me hear it. No, I'm like, no, no, no. Everybody on Earth said you sound like me, let me hear it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. You be waiting, are you?
Speaker 2:scared now, huh, no, ok. But so I'm a Minnesota. Right, you grow up, I know you don't. You missed the cold sometimes, hell, no, ok, cool.
Speaker 1:The reason I'm here is because of I hated the snow. Yeah, I got a crazy pet peeve of me stepping in snow in here and that sounded really hated.
Speaker 2:I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1:Hated. You know I'm from Kansas City, missouri, so I absolutely know all the snow is going on. Yeah, that's not never fun.
Speaker 2:You ever have to get up and go out there and scrape the ice off the car for your mom's?
Speaker 1:He didn't park in the garage. I'm gonna have to start the car. I would wake up at basketball practice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Varsity fucking JV and varsity fucking oh, that's dope, so fucking out. I would literally wake up early and then go outside to the car, start the car and go inside shower, get ready and she's like is the car warm yet? You go find out, you go check first, let me know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my mom used to come in at 5 30 in the morning. Just one of us had to get me and one of my three boys had to get up and go Because even my mom before she moved to Charlotte.
Speaker 1:yeah, she moved to Charlotte 2018, but I would go back every Christmas or summer to go back to visit my mom Right. Every winter Christmas time I would literally get off the plane and have to shovel.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, I'm in college now, immediately. Yeah, that was like the loose hand of the shovel. Soon, yeah, right what?
Speaker 1:Yo who's been shoveling while?
Speaker 2:I was here, right, right, it's just.
Speaker 1:Love you, mom, but damn, I just got here, you're gonna tip or nothing.
Speaker 2:No, tip, no, nothing. You just got love for moms.
Speaker 1:Let me use your call on here.
Speaker 2:I'll take you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me run around, make moves in the car.
Speaker 2:So that was your move. To get down here was because, you was ready to get out of this stuff.
Speaker 1:It was like my cut like family, friend, cousin, moved from Minnesota and I would go over there every weekend, move from Minnesota and, like 2006, to Arizona. So my mom was like during the summer you're going to Arizona, I'm getting you out the house, that's what's up. So my mom was like you're going, so she would literally find me out there. I stayed there for the whole summer and I fell in love. Yeah, I was like yo, it's so much different here than Minnesota.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like yo I got to go there every summer, yeah.
Speaker 1:So then college, senior year comes, I don't know where I'm going to school. I literally bond my ACT with not even caring about school because I was already making money at all my job. I had three jobs in my senior year. At three jobs, I worked at the biggest mall in the US. I don't even know if it's still the biggest mall now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I worked at champs hats, nickelodeon University. I was the guy giving you the points, so you can go.
Speaker 2:I don't even know. I don't man for the people who don't know what Nickelodeon University is. Can you just give us a little break?
Speaker 1:The music park in the mall really had over like 30 rides like roller coasters. They got a crazy SpongeBob, a kidney bottom plunge that goes up and doesn't. Yeah, I mean 360 loop, the loop like yes, I worked there for like nine months, yeah.
Speaker 1:Then I worked at House of Hoops full locker, nice. That's what got me a sneaker became a sneaker. Yeah, I was a late sneaker head from the real OG's but I was like I can get all the best shoes because we started doing raffles. No one in my store in a mall like retro Jordans.
Speaker 1:So, I was getting every pair of new release and then selling them to all my homies. That were like big sneaker heads and I was making hella money. To now I can buy my own shoes, for my mom was not buying me Jordan's before I started to have my own job. She'll put me in some fucking Tim's in a car hard jacket and call it a day or like some new balance. So I'm not trying to wear new balances.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody's wearing retro. It's like for sure.
Speaker 1:So then I got my own money and I end up getting like 60 pair of shoes and like a span of two months, damn. So I had every heat, like you can imagine the galaxy, georgia, lebron's, everything and I started selling them. I'm almost like, all right, well, you're going to use your money and pay for your first year college. I said no, let's do it more like my third year college yeah, you do the first two. I ain't got no scholarships. I had a 1980, didn't know. I've got denied it. Every school I applied to in Minnesota which is crazy man Kato state my mom went there. I got denied what the fuck. So this is. I was late. Everyone was like knowing where they're going in. Like July, yeah, I June. Even earlier than that, I didn't know where I was going to. August, like 10th Damn, welcome week at most schools is August 23rd. Yeah, so I'm over here applying to schools. I got accepted at ASU so I was like, wow, really, god, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's why out of all the schools I wanted to go to, iowa state was my first option. Yeah Right. So I had a girl I had a big crush on, I wanted to go to school or I was on some lovey-dovey shit.
Speaker 2:Really yeah. So you want to go to school, somebody that was already going to ASU.
Speaker 1:No, that was going to.
Speaker 2:I was like okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she went to my high school.
Speaker 2:So I wanted to go there.
Speaker 1:All my friends was going there, but I got denied. I didn't want to tell them that, but I was like all right, arizona state approved me, which is crazy Because I got your family out here, right, so I came out here, I see how it works.
Speaker 1:I came out here for like opening a college enrollment shit. So they're showing me all my fucking fees. Where are we going to housing All of that? I'm not even worried about none of that, cause I'm like I'm here now. Yeah, we're going to worry about the shit later, when I get in the car and talk to my mom leaving here. Yeah, so I meet this guy cool white dude, and we sit next to each other, going everywhere together, talking the whole time vibing.
Speaker 2:And he's like shout out to the cool white guy.
Speaker 1:Cool white guy. You know like his name is Tim Tim. Tim the cool white guy Crazy Last name. His last name is Rooney Rooney. Do you recognize that last name?
Speaker 2:Tim Rooney.
Speaker 1:Tim Rooney. His grandpa owns the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2:There it is, the Rooney family. There it is. I've met him Really.
Speaker 1:And we're. He's like bro, be my roommate, you cool as hell. I'm showing him my Twitter follow. I still had a following at the time.
Speaker 2:Twitter is legit, it legit, so now he's like I'm fucking with you, let's be roommates.
Speaker 1:We're like bet, I'm telling my mom get in the car. I got my potential roommate. This is where we can stay at. Here's the housing. Here's the folder with everything. My mom looks at it and she starts laughing. What? My family friend, cousin in the front seat, who's her age right?
Speaker 2:So they both laughing.
Speaker 1:I'm like what the fuck is funny? Right, we all got out here. You flew me out. What's funny? She goes I'm not paying for this $35,000 a year. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. She got that put. Paid for your high school tuition, paid for your cousin's tuition, your brother's tuition. I'm not paying this, I said yo. We just flew out here. I don't know where I'm going to school. Welcome, we started in a fucking week. I was crying in the backseat. Oh man, I was broken mentally.
Speaker 1:This is before I was meditating. Yeah, I know I bet, yeah, this is tough, I was- down bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So now I'm in the backseat and my cousin's, just like this is where you should go. You should go to GCU, it's like ASU. I'm hard hit, I'm a tourist, I'm like my mind's over set on ASU. I tour everybody else I was going to ASU. So I'm like, fuck it, let's just go see what it's like there. So we go to GCU that same day and I'm over here. Like this could work.
Speaker 2:I want to stay in Arizona.
Speaker 1:I'm not going back to Minnesota, yeah Right.
Speaker 2:Once you get to taste that weather, yeah, and it's like the weather is summer, the ASU.
Speaker 1:Palm, it's the trees, it's the background. You know the mountains in the back horizon. Like we don't have that in Minnesota.
Speaker 2:We don't have that home in KC we got a lot of far out to lose.
Speaker 1:We don't have that. We got a bunch of lakes and trees. That's it Right. So I'm over here seeing palm trees down this big wall with every daddy, like everybody. I'm like this is what college is like. Blue Mountain State, like this is lit, yeah so. But GCU had a knockoff palm walk and I'm like this is still cool, I can get used to walking down this fucking walk going to class. Yeah Right, camera good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you can. You know I'm moving. I got two of them. You know I'll be doing my thing. So I'm literally like he's like nigga, do I look good yeah?
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm liking GCU and I'm like, all right, mom, would you pay for this? To what she goes, yes, fucking, 75% cheaper. So I'm like, all right, that's what's up, I go to GCU.
Speaker 1:Now this is where she gets bad. Yeah, literally freshman year at GCU. Before I go to GCU, I'm targeting my homie, teaching me how to build a following on Twitter. I'm not going to tell you the exact methods, but I basically follow people. Yeah, I've targeted people, a bunch of audience. If we have similar, like-minded shit, you're going to follow back. If you know I'm tweeting about some good shit and you see it all the time, like high chance of following back For sure. So I targeted all people that were going to GCU. Tweeting about GCU lobes up all the keywords Right, freshmen are excited to meet freshmen. Yeah, right, we all don't want to be uncomfortable. So I had a big following, had like 35,000 followers at the time.
Speaker 1:Freshmen year, my first day of school. I'm in the line outside of Subway in our fucking lunchroom area. Literally, this girl's like you don't follow me back. I said you follow me on Twitter. She goes yeah, I'm like bet, I'll follow you back. Right now, as I'm trying to follow her, I'm getting hacked, literally getting hacked in the process of trying to follow. I'm like shit's not refreshing, it's not loading. Yeah, I'm like yo, I don't know what's going on, but I'll be back.
Speaker 2:Little hand. This way I had to cancel my Subway. I make you panic when that shit is happening. Yeah, bro, and I'm not where I can fix it right then and there.
Speaker 1:So I'm over here like yo cancel that Subway order. I'll be back later. My dorm is across the hall, across the street, so I'm running back. People are probably looking at me. What the fuck? What did he just do? Right, my backpack hanging in.
Speaker 1:I'm like yo, so he exactly that's what we're going to get to being black at GCU. So literally running into my dorm, bust through the door, pull out my laptop. They try to sign in emails not verified. I can't like. All right, let's try to reset password. Your email has been changed, oh my heart dropped. I'm like what is? I know it's cooked when your emails been changed. Yep, you done for you're done, that's the best authenticator at the time before those SMS alerts, then for you to protect.
Speaker 2:I'm panicking yeah.
Speaker 1:You know. So I'm panicking and I'm like what do I do? I'll call my homie camp in it. Shout out to camp in it. Dj put me on the knowledge how to throw parties, how to build a following on Twitter. He had fucking 400,000 followers in 2012. Yeah Right, verified already, like it was an OG Twitter guy.
Speaker 1:That's what so he put me on Literally put me on how to build following, but a following on Twitter and how to throw parties. So I'm panicking. I'm like bro, what should I do? He goes motherfucking, hack him back, yeah. You know, who it is. It's a guy I did network marketing with in high school.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, right, Also somebody that you knew.
Speaker 1:Cause he was teaching me how to. This guy also had 200,000 followers on Twitter for posting me.
Speaker 2:So for for your following, uh, for your pages you lost. Did you have a plan with it? Were you about to do something with it?
Speaker 1:I'm like I well, I just wanted to be known first.
Speaker 2:I know about law of averages I know about.
Speaker 1:I just want to be seen People know who I am. Get to know me before you judge me. Yes, I'm already black out here. Yes, right, so like, at least meet, have the chance to meet me before you have a crazy thought about me. Yeah, and start judging me and like I'm not fucking with you, off the jump. So literally the goal was just meet as many people and then throw parties here. Right Cause like I got a bunch of following. I got to promote something, yes, so homie taught me how to throw parties.
Speaker 2:Can have a platform with following and not do nothing with it.
Speaker 1:In fact they just you wasting yeah.
Speaker 2:Like bro, give me your account. Yeah, I'll do some with it. Yeah, I'll make some ducats off of it.
Speaker 1:First six months, freshman year. I'm stressing like in class, like not all in six months, like two first two months. I'm trying everything to hack back. I'm on fiverr looking for hackers. Yeah, I'm on YouTube looking for hackers ethical hacking. I'm learning different, different.
Speaker 2:The different key words. That's a little jik thing.
Speaker 1:Ethical, hacking, ethical hacking, ethical hacking, right, but you are one, right, oh my God. So I find this guy his account was named was info creeks.
Speaker 2:Info creeks. I won't forget the name because, oh yeah yeah, I got traumatized. He was half naked in his in his basement. It was a.
Speaker 1:Not to be racist, but there's a thing called Nigerian scammers. Oh, yeah, like that's just the turn like no, this is back. I got Nigerian friends.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:But I ran into a Nigerian scammer. Really info creeks. This guy shows me a given, telling my story. Bro used to do business with hack me. I used to be with him every day and my mom and his mom he's cooking us dinner Like it was family friend, like it was a homie.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Right, so I tell him my story. He's like I got you, give me a day, I'll get you right back in your account. So I'm like cool. I was in class in class and getting in trouble for being on my laptop, so focused on trying to get my account back.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because this is fucking up my income. Right, I'm not trying to work, yeah, so I'm so locked in. I paid his guy $500 on PayPal. I already know 500. I didn't even want to pay. Listen, I didn't want to do PayPal because I already was selling shoes in fucking high school, yeah, and I would literally get my money on hold for 600 days. That was the one time to try to hold my money for a second.
Speaker 2:They was doing that back then.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's worse now Linked it to my Shopify when I first started and he held my money. Then I said I'm done. Too many bad fucking signs of PayPal, no. So I paid his guy $500. He's emailing me. He's like yo. He sends me a video on email showing him hacking into my account. So I'm like damn. He's showing me messages.
Speaker 2:He's really in there. He's really in there, gotcha.
Speaker 1:So I'm like all right, cool, you've been paid confirmation, send me that account and log in the new password. He never sends it. I'm getting him up all day and I'm sweating now because I'm like no way, this dude's not going to send me the password. So I literally like hit him up, like what's the issue? He's like yo, I'm sorry it's raining here where I'm at. That's a big storm. I can't get to the banks to take out the money. He's going to show me confirmation he's got the money Right, right, so he's going to do some e-card shit, right, send it there.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So I'm over here like all right, I feel like he's hacking me. Then I checked where his location was at and I saw that there was fucking beautiful sunny weather out there.
Speaker 2:Really, so you already went to the, you went to go to the. Okay, yeah, so I did some more research, all right.
Speaker 1:I see where his location is, I know where he's at, the weather is saying it's sunny and not raining, so then he just stopped messaging me back. So now I'm stressing Just lost $500. Didn't have no income.
Speaker 2:But you feel like you said, you feel like he was hacking you back or you just feel like he was scamming you.
Speaker 1:I felt like he was scamming because he wasn't messaging me after I paid him money. Right, you already showed me you got an account, so I'm not thinking you're going to scam me. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I thought this was like you feel, like he showed you him actually getting in, or you felt like it was a like, but it was just 2012,.
Speaker 1:13. Okay, it's not. We got AI doing shit now. It's not like that, you know. So I'm not even thinking he's doing a fake video. And no, he got into the account because I saw me messages that count and try to like yo give me my account back. I saw my message.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying, so you knew he was in there. For sure, I knew he was in there.
Speaker 1:So now I'm like all right, he didn't give me my account back. I'm stressing for another like two weeks, and I come home and I'm like yo, what should I do now? He's like bro, just rebuild your account Rebuild man. Rebuild. Stop fucking stressing over this. Yes, you were attached to it. You built the following, but you know how to do it. Yeah, you know how to restart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, restart it, so I was so locked in my freshman sophomore year I was like I'm going to get way more followers in my own account and shit on their lives, yeah. So that was crazy. It was like I'm not a vengeful person, but that right there Fired you up. Getting something stolen from me Like all right, no, no one's ever stolen from me again, right Not?
Speaker 2:having it so. So I'm assuming once you, once you got your mind changed, like I've been, to give you a new account, yeah, um, you rebuild and now you want to is that's where you take it and you get into the promoting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So take me from. I got my account, I'm building.
Speaker 1:It's time to promote All right, so I'll go back to Minnesota for the summer.
Speaker 2:Cam is teaching me what year is this.
Speaker 1:This is 2014-15. I was going to go to the summer 15. It's like July. It's there for the summer. There are my homies who taught me how to build a Twitter following are now throwing club events like 18 plus club events, but downtown, upgraded from house parties. Right, I've been helping them do house parties.
Speaker 2:They'll usually get shot up, was it?
Speaker 1:good, oh no, they're still getting shot. Okay, oh no, no, no, no, I'll just go to the back. He has some crazy shit, yeah.
Speaker 2:House parties.
Speaker 1:You know they've been getting shot up for decades and he's got light skinned each day. So Nick was just trying to try him. Like me was taking all your shit.
Speaker 2:My mother was on horses shooting up house parties. You know this was been going since 1800. They were going to horse the shoot.
Speaker 1:Yo oh, my people think Minnesota is like a cool place to live. No, that's just. It's crazy. They call it murderapolis.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, crazy, damn. So fucking. He's doing a club events. And I'm like yo, I want to learn how to do this. Like you're getting paid. How are you getting paid? Like, bro, we get a percentage of the door, a small percentage of the bar this is before. Like he's not even 21. So, like damn, they're giving you liquor sales. He was so hot, he was bringing celebrities in there to go to these events. So fucking, I'm like, all right, how do I do this? Teach me how to teach me how to go back to Arizona. And I'm like I'm going to start throwing my own parties now. All right, but I'm not going to jump straight into a club. I know I don't have no leverage. Yeah, they're not going to see this black guy. I'm like, yep, we'll hire you. You're going to be a club tomorrow. So I was like all right, I'm going to do house parties. I built up my following again. I'm at like 30,000 now, close to where I was once. That.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Now everywhere I will go, auto house parties. My homies that introduced me, the first people I met, jordan and Wes. They will take me to the volleyball parties. They were already the stuff.
Speaker 2:These are all issue parties. No DCU parties. Dcu, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I touched ASU yet Got you. So I'm at a good all these DCU parties and I'm just drunk on the wall.
Speaker 2:They will call me wobbles before I was JT, I was wobbles before I was JT crazy? You can't hear that. You can't hear that drop. But I just gave you a koala in the lab. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:So literally out there was calling me wobbles but I was like my whole goals to go to these parties isn't just to get on bitches, it's to get as many phone numbers as I can, because I know I'm going to start throwing parties but I want all the y'all to love me and feel comfortable around me. All I got drunk is hell with JT. He didn't care because they're like I was lit like, but I used to watch the mountain states. I knew how to party, yeah Right. So I'm going to all these house parties, meeting, all these kinds of. I got over 350 GCU numbers, over like 700 ASU numbers. I will go to both scenes now, literally going to parties and meeting Met this Asian guy named Lewis, who was 27.
Speaker 1:He was 27 in college. I'm fucking 19.
Speaker 2:So I'm like what was the college doing?
Speaker 1:Just fucking on the bitches. There you go. All right, he's the gold Yo he's had. He would be this little tiny Asian dude sitting out and there's a bunch 40 girls. Like he was damn busy before that was here.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:Everyone at ASU loved him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was like, okay, if I can be cool with him, I can get his clients, his friends, to be fucking me. Yeah, so I can do GCU over here, because I'm already got this on lot. I can go to ASU during the weekends, uber over there and link with them over the weekends and stay at my homie's crib, got you. Then we start. He's like bro, I got a club spot we can throw parties at. The first house party I threw was right by GCU in the middle of Phoenix area sketchy area. We all we was in class the whole day hyping it up on Twitter had these white boys who had this account called Phoenix. It's not GCU, because I did GCU dives, he did. No, I did ASU dives, he did GCU dives.
Speaker 1:Okay so he taught me when you do it. There was like a Timby Dom's to what that was me, because ASU hit me with a fucking cease and desist.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:He was like yo, you need to have an account, so if people don't like you, they're going to like this account that's going to be promoting your events. I said yo, that's smart thinking, for sure. So I was like yo, you're going to be one of my promoters and you're going to help me throw this crazy parties. So we did a house party 800 people came, cops came in 10 minutes, helicopters outside.
Speaker 2:Everybody had fun as hell, though.
Speaker 1:Everybody was like what the shit was lit. Nobody was mad yeah.
Speaker 2:They're like the shit happens 10 minutes of chaos.
Speaker 1:10 minutes of chaos we were all side getting numbers like it was fun as hell. So everybody was hyping me up during the week at school and talking about, like yo, you got to do another party. I was like, well, I got to elevate it, I want to do a club event like my homies are doing in.
Speaker 1:Minnesota Right, find a team plus venue. So I found a spot called school of rock, yeah, which is on male left in the heart of ASU. Yeah, and this was popping during the time, right, but the older people from areas I'm like man, fuck that club.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:All these 80,000 people going to ASU. Hell of new students. They don't know nothing about it. Yeah, we just want a spot to go party you was on it. I was on it.
Speaker 2:So the first. So when you got school of rock, what was the first?
Speaker 1:party.
Speaker 2:Did you get school of rock? You did get school of rock.
Speaker 1:first event there Was in like the name of it Would you named it Wolf of Mil-Af.
Speaker 2:Wolf of Mil-Af.
Speaker 1:Spent off on Wolf of Washington Yep.
Speaker 2:What was the turnout?
Speaker 1:Amazing 850.
Speaker 2:Really 850 people there were slowing down. How much was he getting at the door?
Speaker 1:Bro, we made like 15,000. I got an interview on AZ Central titled Two college students make thousands. Really. That was a week after that party.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:The owner is like we love y'all, come back again. So I was like, all right, we're not going to come back next week, we're going to come back next month, yep. If you miss that event. You got to be there next month, Yep. So I'll go to GCU and I'm paid. Now I'm hype Like all right, what's next Right.
Speaker 1:So now I'm doing another one. We did my homie YP, my boy who lives in Minnesota. I flew him and Cam Bennett to do all these parties because they taught me the way. So I flew them back out. From YP's birthday we did a pajama jam. Lit again, Nice, right. So now we got attraction, we got momentum, so now I keep doing them. Now I'm doing parties at the West 6th the tower right across the street.
Speaker 1:Pan house parties. Now we over here doing a little small bookings, booking DJs. She's getting like hectic. We're making a lot of money. I go to GCU. One day I'm back at GCU on campus, I'm all. This is my sophomore year. So we got an off campus housing spot, our own apartment. We built a studio in there because my roommate was making music, my cousins were coming in and smoke. We was all smoking off campus. We were all sophomores now, yeah Right, no, we had a public safety guard at the front of the gate but they were not really tripping because we was all talking and showing love. But I'm not JT the villain in their eyes yet. And so they get wind of my Twitter account and they got wind of my parties, really. So GCU and Larry sends me an email. Right, alan Bolter, who was the director of, like principal right yeah, dean, dean yeah.
Speaker 1:The Dean of Students hey, JT, we would like to meet you. Come to the office student office over here at two o'clock tomorrow. Be there, you have to be there. I'm over here. I call them all. Like yo? Look at this email. They sent me an email saying hey, JT, my name ain't JT, Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:My name is that's my persona.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm not going to give them out my real name.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Even in my article it says JT Holmes yeah. But, they addressed me as JT Holmes. They know exactly where I stay, I am a student, they know my government name. But you said hey, jt Holmes. My mom said oh, call me right after. Call me when you get there, we're going to talk. And call me right after. Don't say nothing, crazy. I know how you get your hot head and you get mad and you start talking. Don't talk to them like people, crazy. That's what mom said.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So I'll go in the fucking office and I'm like why is there 13 people here?
Speaker 2:It was 13 folks in the office.
Speaker 1:Can't lie to you. 13 people and I'm in like a.
Speaker 2:Ties, tiesuits and button ups.
Speaker 1:I felt like I'm in a war room, like a war room, like we better talk about King.
Speaker 2:Wow, so I'm over here, stressed Me right here in a bunch of you see what he did there. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'm over here stressing I'm like all right, like hey, jt, how's it going? I'm like good, what's up. I'm stressing out like what's up, and they're like hey. So we did find your Twitter account real, jt Holmes. We see you gain a mass following. You surpassed our schools following on Twitter. We congratulate you for it. But we did not like what you're doing with your Twitter. I said what am I doing? I'm not posting no crazy shit. They're, you know, only fans. They ain't doing none of that.
Speaker 1:I was just post promoting my party. He's posting the flyer and getting people to go. They said, yeah, but you're throwing 18 plus events and people are coming to GCU back drunk. I said I am renting a venue 18 plus, I'm paying for it so I can make money to pay for your school. But now I'm in trouble for making money during the weekends, thursday nights, I don't have class, the next day I'm not. My grades is good, right, what's the problem here? Right, right. So they're like yeah, if you can keep continuing to rock, you're going with these parties. We're going to have to kick you out.
Speaker 2:They told you that straight up, Straight up In the office in front of you over some parties on your Twitter.
Speaker 1:They tell me I can't throw parties. Wow. I said I'm not, I'm renting a venue. They got to be 21 plus to drink.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So if they get liquor and come back drunk, that's on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:Go find out with the fake IDs?
Speaker 1:Yep, see who's selling them? Yep, do your research, go down that road. Don't go hit me up and tell me I can't throw parties. Did you tell them that, huh?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got, I got.
Speaker 2:I got hit. Did you get high headed? Yeah, you got high headed yeah.
Speaker 1:That's it. Yep, we're going to check back in two weeks. Oh wow, while I was like in my head I'm like I throw parties once a month. You ain't going to see nothing the next two weeks. I might not plan my next party till fucking January, right, right. So I try to be high headed. Then I got told to my roommates we built the fucking studio. Now they know who I am. Then they're like watch him. I go off campus. I'm with my homie Lewis Smoking outside his house. I get a call from my roommate white boy named Tanner. He calls me and goes JT. I'm like what's good he goes? You need to get back here ASAP, really. I said what are you talking about, bro? He's like our room just got raided. Get out of here. We just got raided, raided, raided, raided. Public safety armed guards in there looking for shit. Were you at? Were you at, damn?
Speaker 2:Looking for shit.
Speaker 1:He said I said what did they find? They said they found your stash cans. I had empty Pringle stash cans where you open a stash can and you can put your weed or whatever items you wanted in there.
Speaker 2:No, no worries, I'm a kid.
Speaker 1:I used to. Kids next door was on this type of shit, Right, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, you don't know about it I got the secret room back here, right.
Speaker 1:So I was like I wanted shit like that. So, yeah, that was cool as hell. What if it's 10 bucks? Right, I could put money in there or whatever, but I would put the Pringles right next to Pringles in a cabinet. I had a Pringles my stash can in my plastic bag connected to my bed and it was like a trash bag, got you?
Speaker 2:Right. So I was like kind of smart.
Speaker 1:We didn't throw some wrappers of starburst in there like make it look like trash. But these people were so hip because I went to the smoke shop across the street from GCU Wasn't thinking, oh wow. So, I guess public safety was hip to all of their gadgets and shit. Exactly Right.
Speaker 1:So they found residue in my stash cans. That's it. Shake, that's it. That's what happened. What's that? I get back to campus meeting with the Dean, and now all of them again. Hey, jt, we're going to be suspending you. You're going to get a seven day suspension. We found you. We're going to get a seven day suspension. You have to pay a $250 fine. You got to do medical marijuana rehabilitation, so I have to go every Wednesday for a month and for an hour. Hey, my name is JT Holmes. I'm addicted to marijuana. Get out of here. I had to do this. Most people don't know that. Really, I had to do that. So, look, now I'm suspended. I got to ask my cousin if I can stay over there. Yeah, I don't even know, who's on the way?
Speaker 2:They wouldn't let you stay on campus because you're just suspended.
Speaker 1:No, wow, and I was on campus housing, but it was off campus but it was still their shit. So I had to leave for seven days and stayed over there. They said you can't smoke weed or anything Because you're going to do a hair test. Hair test is way worse than P test. Hair test stays in your hair up to 90 to 100 days. You're not fucking around.
Speaker 2:They do want a hair test.
Speaker 1:So I'm getting hit with all this shit. I go sober we seven days. I'm like cool, I was suspended. I actually smoked, but I was like it was crazy. I did it. They didn't test me because most people was like that God suspended and shit.
Speaker 1:They said they don't really test like that. It's like but you've got to be ready in like a month, be ready. So I'm over here around my homies, roommates or next door neighbors they're all smoking in there. I'm smoking a black in my out Like I just want to be here still kicking it, but I'm back on campus but they will all smoke. You smoke with a black.
Speaker 2:I just want to be smoking. Niggaz, you want to go?
Speaker 1:niggaz, you want to get your black. I'm in the sun I got you.
Speaker 2:We smoke black, I got you, I know. I know we do back home.
Speaker 1:I mean, you sit and they're smoking, blown Smoking my face, hi, you miss it, right. I'm like all right, well, I fuck you. I got to go to cold turkey. I know what I want is bigger than this fucking shit Right Right they're hanging over my head.
Speaker 2:I'm the guinea pig. I just want to go back to black and miles. Man, you just fuck with you, go ahead. Just keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1:I went. I ended up going 275 days cold turkey.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, yeah 275 days. I can't even do that for some people in the M&Ms. You do that for them.
Speaker 1:But I was smoking a lot. So now that I have to do it because I can't go back home to Minnesota, yeah, right. So my why was big enough, like for me to like. All right, cold turkey here, it is Right, right. But now I'm not throwing parties, but my mom's like we're going to most likely get you out of there at the end of the year. But so now I'm back on campus. I'm walking with this girl back to my door. We bought this study for a test, so we're just like a bunch of people who use it to go to our neighbor's crib and we were all being a living room studying and doing all that shit. Yeah, I'm walking back across the campus. Public city guy walks up behind me and shakes my backpack. I know you got drugs in there. Get the fuck out of here. My denies is grabbing a lie. I know you got drugs in there.
Speaker 2:You just run up, grab your backpack, shakes it behind me and shakes it. That's insane, you know someone shakes his shirt and he shook my backpack.
Speaker 1:I'm like what the fuck he's like? Oh, you know, I'm just kidding bro, you go back over there. And now I'm walking back. Hot, you got to be furious Hot. I thought I was going to be out of there. I thought it was like two months left. So my mom was like you're definitely leaving, You're a target on your back, we're getting you out of there. So I leave GCU. It's crazy because right before I left I threw a concert GCU at ASU School of Rock. Oh wow, Pay him 20K. We made so much money. It was one of the biggest parties I've thrown at the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how many do you think came out the venue only?
Speaker 1:holds like 800.
Speaker 2:So you just maxed out, we maxed it out, and then we ended up doing a penthouse party, right?
Speaker 1:after oh nice, across the street and GCU was there with 85 girls, jesus, and now he's doing whatever he's doing. Girls is vibing and like good times, so that was actually. April 23rd was like the last day of school. I got so drunk, I got so high. I'm like school is out, I'm done. I didn't get hair tested. I'm good, I'm not going back there now.
Speaker 2:Set him out.
Speaker 1:I was so lit at the time of my life Then I ended up going to transfer and going to community college.
Speaker 2:So, after you get through your community college and you're doing your thing, how do you end up? Because you eventually end up in the nightclub.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure. So how do you?
Speaker 2:end up in the nightclub I filled my first class at Scott's Hill Community College.
Speaker 1:I filled my first class ever. I've never failed. I was decent in school. I never failed a class, Never failed a test, Never failed bad. So I failed my first class and they're like you got to retake it. I was already on campus but I was driving around. I had to Uber every day. I had a big follow-on.
Speaker 1:So I'll get free rides for getting free people to sign up. So I'll get like 350 free Ubers. So then I would get to college off the Ubers. But then I'll get on a hoverboard which I got for free off of promoting on Twitter and I'm riding around campus with flyers Yo, big party Pull up, pull up. I got headphones in so they won't talk back, just like I'm just doing this real quick, right, right Now. Everybody know me as the hoverboard guy at the time. Right, and I was just zoom past everybody, pull up right to class. But I filled my first class really the Sunday. It was an essay and I guess my grade required me to get a C plus or higher on this essay.
Speaker 1:Got a D this essay was the same day I got paid to promote a Jack Quiz Festival somewhere in Chandler, so I was so locked in on like I'm about to yeah, Jack Quiz and Gemma yeah it was if that show flop, okay.
Speaker 2:It was a Mormon, it was deep, it was deep, it was someone outside spot with P&B rock, oh wow. Okay.
Speaker 1:But it flopped. I was thinking it was going to do good, yeah, right, based off free sell tickets and all that. So fucking I felt the class off of a bad essay. So now I'm like yo, mom, I'm not going back to school, I'm already in articles. You see it, I'm about to get bigger. I'm about to take this shit to the next level. Yeah, she's now. She had to see my articles because she's the doubt me Like you, promoting your brother plays basketball overseas. Like, what are you doing? Like mom, you already knew I was a seller when I was selling candy in second grade, right. But now I'm selling parties, all right.
Speaker 2:Selling a lifestyle?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure so now I'm throwing big parties, big mansion parties. You run an Airbnb. We're staying there for the weekend. Me and my homie Uche were going crazy Right Now. Life's people who know me as the guy with the girls God, I show people a good time. Then my homie Jordan, who I met first second day of school. He's linked up with Devin Booker, so now he's going out with Devin Booker doing pregame parties and going outside having a good time. So now a whole time I still got that energy mindset of I'm about to meet everybody. Right, y'all are going to follow me.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'm going to squeeze my way in here and network. Yeah, because I know at the end of the day I got to make money out here. Yes, y'all are working. I get paid off of taking y'all somewhere and showing y'all a good time. So now I'm throwing parties. I'm now got the athletes Now through Devin and I made other athletes Now my relationships are getting bigger Now, but they don't want to go to 18 plus parties, they want to go to the club, yeah, right.
Speaker 1:So then here comes Corey, owner of 11 now At the time was at international. He's been hitting me up since 2000. My second he found he knew I was like going to go far in this promo game because he was hitting me at my sophomore year like yo, come to club blur, 18 plus, come to club blur. But I'm like, yes, it's Scottsdale, but I got a partner that is running. Should I ASU? Right, I know he's not going to want to do Scottsdale shit at the time, so I had it's declined it. Yeah, but come again he hits me up. Yo, I got a bag for you, come to international, we'll pay you weekly. And I'm like what, I want to be in Scottsdale. Yes, I'm down, 21 plus. Now I can bring my clients in, have booktables, have, promote, right. So now I'm just like a sponge, learning from y'all Y'all the OGs in the game, right.
Speaker 1:I've been you know, the first person that I've seen on promoting was Mike Lowry's, and I'm like he was the man with the bitches. Yeah, so now I'm all right, now I'm around y'all. So now you're the man with the bitches. I'm going to get to know your bitches.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:So now I'm meeting because the guy with the girls wins for sure. Or the guy that knows to have fun, or has money, you know, to provide the lifestyle. Yeah Right, so now I'm over here learning everything. Now I'm building my name in a 21 plus crowd, bringing the 18 plus, so we all, everybody turns 21.
Speaker 1:Eventually, do Right so now my crowd is 21. Now it's taking party buses going to Casa and all these clubs and now the network my ass off. Everybody fucks with me. Yeah, I'm a household name. I didn't get a concert at Livewire which was Casa Amigo, which is Casa Amigo's now Did a concert for Chief Keith there. It was crazy. It was one of the.
Speaker 2:He showed up late.
Speaker 1:Showed up at 150.
Speaker 2:Brothers notorious for showing up late 18 plus concert.
Speaker 1:He showed up at 150. Brothers, notorious for showing up late.
Speaker 2:That concert was supposed to be done at 1245.
Speaker 1:We had to pay extra to keep it open.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 1:All right, yeah, having a book report up there. It was lit Like good time but fucking I had to basically give. They kept my money for 65 days. Never like yep, you're not getting this. So many refunds. We got to give everybody their money back, damn.
Speaker 2:So I basically lost money, but my social cloud skyrocketed.
Speaker 1:Still because, like he still showed up, a lot of people get to meet him. Jt, you still want? Yes, another lit party? Yep, they were throwing fucking cups at the water bottles of the DJ.
Speaker 2:Really On my homie boy. There's man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was pissed and he's like JT. I need help, bro. Like, save me. We put Chief Keith's media like A-Z, I'm on the way. We screen shot it, put it on the big screen.
Speaker 2:So, like yo this is, he's coming, he's just he just running late.
Speaker 1:He decided he wanted to drive instead of flying. We booked his flights. He wanted to bring with his shit. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was similar to when we did Calit the first time we did DJ Calit. He didn't take planes at the time, he only took tour buses.
Speaker 1:So you had to pay extra? Yeah, they'd be really bougie.
Speaker 2:He was afraid to fly. Now the motherfuckers on the jet all the motherfucking time.
Speaker 1:I don't know when that happened, he's got his own jet now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, for sure I don't know when that happened or what therapists helped Calit out, but you say promoters some money.
Speaker 1:He was leaving money on the jet. Say what he was leaving money on the jet.
Speaker 2:He was yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's a guy about that bad. He promote everything. Yeah, I learned a lot from Calit. Maybe that was the fear killer right there.
Speaker 1:I learned so much from Calit that I brainwashed people to say bitches JT with the red hair. So I'll make bitch. You know, is JT bitches JT with the red hair, everybody would copy it. Or bitches JT with the coffee, all right. So now I'm like I learned that because Calit will always say we the best.
Speaker 2:You gotta want it Like he was always repeating his problems, calit don't care, he gonna hulk, he gonna listen. I learned, I got it the rock, the rock.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's always watching.
Speaker 2:Go to the rock's Instagram.
Speaker 1:Best believe he's wearing one of his products for his product placement.
Speaker 2:He's got a cup that says Zola, whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure he's wearing his fucking I love the armor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And then he's just talking about some random shit, but he's like I got you it's all a part of the plan.
Speaker 2:It's all part of the plan.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm working at an international, I'm using that money. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna. I'm not driving because I'm drinking so much. I'm staying at my homie J's crib where I met at the West 6 from throwing house parties at real New York. Literally we'll go to his crib. I met him standing on his white sofa. He snapped on me to fuck out my house, nigga, with fucking got no manners and whatnot. And when his homies was like no JT's good, he just dropped. So then he was like all right, take your fucking shoes off. Everybody see, everybody else shoes off. I'm gonna get one of my shoes in my crib, right, right, right. And then he became best friend.
Speaker 2:You, a motherfucker, for standing on somebody's white couch. What's your shoes on my cow cruise.
Speaker 1:You're jumping on a cow, so just drunk Shh, like girls all around me. You got my wet in my hand With the white couch too. Yeah, with the white couch, damn Fuck Jesus.
Speaker 1:But we became best friends, so he was coming with me as like big bro, like muscle also, like you're not about to get no drama. We know you destined for greatness. You don't need no fucking slip ups Right. So now Madden International. He's using the money and running suburban, having pre games at his crib, packing the trucks out with girls, going to the table, getting videos at a videographer. We getting our own videos showing the livestock Because I knew no one was using Twitter. So now I'm showing people, folks used to disrespect.
Speaker 2:Twitter, because you can promote on Twitter. I don't mean to interject.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I said this before Listen.
Speaker 2:One time when I got asked to promote my first time ever being asked to promote I told him how I was going to promote and I was already shocked because you asked of me to promote, yeah, but when I tell you how I'm going to do it, I got laughed at. I said man, I'm going to promote on Twitter. You can't promote on Twitter. You know what's crazy. You can't promote on Twitter. But I'm like people from the city follow me on Twitter. If I tell them what I'm doing, it's promoting.
Speaker 2:At the time it was hand in hand combat. So you going to hand out flyers and shit like that?
Speaker 1:I was promoting on Twitter and using Twitter. They're like you're using that old people app.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Because we went from MySpace to Facebook. Yeah, the older demographic went from MySpace to Twitter. My brother was on Twitter while I was on Facebook. We over here like this status for a TV app, to be honest. And I'm going to say, to be honest, I fuck with you that now we're just corny. So that was going on on Facebook, right. Well, the OG's older heads were on Twitter Right. Then they got off Twitter. We got on Twitter Right. Now. I'm like, damn, I'm reaching out, I'm talking to people so seamlessly in different countries, different states, like so. Now it's like people want to come to Arizona because they see the videos, the mansions, the girls. They see all these videos and they're like, yo, arizona is lit. But people back home they're like what? It's like that? Yeah, winter time, we in the pool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we are in a room.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl is a big ass pool party at the hub ASU. Eight hundred people drinking Like the videos. The experiences are crazy. Even GCU pool parties on campus, 300 people in the pool on a Saturday it's like yo. This feels like a Vegas, like lifestyle I'm living. So I was getting so many followers from different countries and I'm like all right back to where I'm at with international. I end up growing out. I feel like I was out growing it and I'm like I want more now.
Speaker 2:You want to do your own shit.
Speaker 1:I want to do my own shit. I don't want to be like damn, I got to promote this too short, or whoever our act is. That's not my crowd, it's y'all. Are y'all crowded than us? Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:I'm like hold on, I'm not chill on the ocean.
Speaker 1:That's fucking good. I'm just fucking with y'all. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2:All right, I got a wheelchair, I got a walker. Yeah, I got a cane. Go ahead, you go no.
Speaker 1:But it was hard for me to get my people who know me from my lit parties to now go to the club for artists. They don't listen to Right, like I would go to ASU. I was not going to ASU but my ASU parties. I did Waka, flaka, g-e-e-z. I knew the clientele to book that would get them to be like I'm going Tied Alasign, yeah Right, race Remmer during fucking Black Beatles at the West 6th Pan House 30th Floors Up, like we done did the fucking mannequin challenge.
Speaker 1:So they know my events were like that Right yeah, so they're like we don't want to go here too short, or who is too short, right?
Speaker 2:So Now.
Speaker 1:Doesn't this? No, this is fake. I'm just saying in certain areas.
Speaker 2:That hurts y'all. I didn't even get to say too short, I'm just letting them know it hurts, I fuck with too short, too short. I fuck with too short.
Speaker 1:It hurts these white kids ain't listening to too short. That's real. They'll fuck with a little John. You don't know we put a little John. You know they'll go crazy for that yeah.
Speaker 2:They don't they enjoy blowing whistles. Yeah, they enjoy it Okay, all right, keep going.
Speaker 1:So I was like still doing it. I held book a little Uzzi at international.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I remember that I was there for that.
Speaker 1:But I was getting backlash because I went to the concert. He came to the club after and was sleeping in a section. I don't know if you remember that. He was asleep so I had to go tell fucking his manager like yo, you gotta wait to do that right now. He was just tired man. He was just tired. He was just tired. Y'all know he was just tired. He was a rock star. We're going to get to the rock stars.
Speaker 2:It wasn't nothing, he was just tired, just tired.
Speaker 1:Not so fucking. I see how lit it was. I'm like now my people came to this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, I want to know how much y'all are making. Yeah, I'm like I'm only getting 250 a week, which is cool. It's more than making doing anything else, not throwing my own party. So I'm like, damn, it's a quick 250 to go to the club Y'all paying for my liquor. I'm inviting girls. Girls are like, damn, you're gonna have a good time, you're lit you got bottles out of that.
Speaker 2:It's a facade and it's in, right, they just see bottles.
Speaker 1:They don't know, they don't care where it's coming from, but they're coming to you. You're somebody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, so it's helping the image.
Speaker 1:Yep, I'm getting on video of people on Twitter like oh, y'all lit in the clubs now.
Speaker 2:Yep, yeah, yeah you need to take a step up. Yeah, yeah, it's like that, right.
Speaker 1:So now, as I'm building my name, it's hard.
Speaker 2:It's hard to get in there, man.
Speaker 1:No, it's the crazy.
Speaker 2:It is hard.
Speaker 1:It is not If people think like oh, you're just a club, I work for this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's hard, bro. It's not a layup, I work for this.
Speaker 1:So look, now I'm over here like I want to expand. How do I expand? I want to expand. So now I'm like how do I get into y'all lane when you're like, really on the names on the top of the flyer, I'm making more money. Percentage of the door and bar Right. So now I'm over here Like I was going to Mint a lot which is RIP both of these clubs.
Speaker 1:Which is across the street though people that I don't know. It's literally like a cul-de-sac. One end of the street is the real black club. Yeah, right, and the real black club. I love both clubs.
Speaker 2:For sure, the real Nick club, like Sunday night. You know you're going to the international.
Speaker 1:You had a time in your life.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ. What a time.
Speaker 1:But so that's the real Nick club. But then you have the semi light skin Nick club. There it is. Yeah, I'll take that when you go here too. Right, they have that.
Speaker 2:It is dark over Mint, we can go over there.
Speaker 1:It's that is dark over there, it's right on the corner next to the main street.
Speaker 2:Some of them look like you know, jerry, I know you know that's nice of them. They had an 18 plus.
Speaker 1:They had an 18 plus Thursday night DJ Slippy.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, Slippy, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was already going there before going there with the celebs, the athletes, right. So I already fucked with the manager there. He was like yo, just come here on a slow night, bring your people, I'll give you bottles. So I'm building a relationship. One of the other coworkers at our club, 11, black, was that mint, also Black, and a few others. I fuck with all his promo team. But one of my favorite DJs at the time, dj Rolex. He was DJing.
Speaker 2:Rolex Shout out Roli, yeah, man so.
Speaker 1:Rolex was like JT, I'm going to show you the way. Come to mint when you're not at international and you're being a DJ booth. You're good. You don't got to pay when they got to act. You're just going to be with me, right? So I'm like all right, if I'm with him, I'm going to get good videos Closer to the celebs. My content's going to be fire. I'm not looking like a lame one to dance floor.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. At the time we thought them videos fire. Oh my God, what do you think about what you did now?
Speaker 1:I was huge. Even some celebs was like I can't have JT around. He's so big on Snapchat Like he's going to be my life. But I had to tell people I'm not going to do you like that, but I got to show certain shit that people can't see on the regular.
Speaker 2:It's an unspoken NDA. As a promoter, you have to allow them, to Allow them to learn from certain situations it's like all right, my bad, we still good.
Speaker 1:But I had to shut them like, look bro, like I get it. But nah, you don't do that. Yeah for sure. So now I've learned right, but I will go there and get the videos. Rolex will be like. Shout out to JT in the blue Never saw a red hair. It's shouting me out, plugging me every time and I'm getting videos. One time he put my logo on the big screen. He wasn't supposed to do that. All the promoters got mad. He put my cartoon JT face on the big screen. I got a video of it.
Speaker 2:I'm about to be here a lot like it, Because the love was there, right? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:But then I'm there, lit, rolex is shouting me out like heavy Tyler's, like the manager at the time was like who is this JT guy?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So he like, because there was a different manager at the time when I was going in for 18 plus. The name is Fabio.
Speaker 2:I'm your Fabio.
Speaker 1:Fabio was the manager and he was showing me love. Now I got introduced to Tyler. Tyler's like oh, you're cool, like I fuck with you. Everybody was already working with him because they promote their own set right and shit. So now I'm like Tyler's, like yo, where are you at, where are you doing? I'm like I'm at international.
Speaker 2:I'm lying, I'm getting 750 a week, yeah you got to, you know, because you want some old duggies. When a motherfucker asks what you're doing, you know what he wants. So let me go ahead and say times two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man Three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm getting this man, let's start high.
Speaker 1:I learned from selling energy drinks that you've got to start high and get that customer.
Speaker 2:Is that coffee still good Fire? I know how to make coffee.
Speaker 1:And it's still cold.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? I need to wear apron. I need to be running a Starbucks. I'm not like a.
Speaker 1:I am a coffee guy in store, but I drink gas station coffee. I'm cross street from my shop. I'm convenient. Ass motherfucker, I don't like driving forward.
Speaker 2:Once I just found out you smoke black and miles.
Speaker 1:I don't smoke, I'm not a black and miles motherfucker. I got you, bro, it is household things I had to smoke at the time. All right, don't be judging me now.
Speaker 2:Now, if you're talking to someone, it's like how much you make.
Speaker 1:I'm like 750 a week Killing it. He goes. I know you're not making that. I said I am Go ask anybody Right who's going to ask? I know you're not cool for talking to these guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure You're not talking to these guys in your competition, so I'm already playing that role Like what's the net.
Speaker 1:What are you going to say next?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And I'm like he's like all right, are you? What do you do down at work here? I said what day I would love to work here, but I'm still over there. You got to have to match my offer. Be, you got to really beat my offer because I'm getting shown love here, exactly. Oh, we'll kill that offer. I said what do you mean? You?
Speaker 2:hear that You're like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, I want to see you email later this weekend. I got an email. We're going to offer you 30% of the bar, 20% of the door, 30%, 20, 70% of the door. 30% of the 70% of the door, 30% of the bar.
Speaker 2:That's what I got offered. Yeah, right, but it's a Friday night.
Speaker 1:But I'm like, when is when will this start? There's already promoters here. Like I'm not just trying to just take people's shit like that. Like I fuck with these guys. I'm here all the time on Friday, they show me love. He goes. Now this one's start for like a month, but you're going to have to leave international and come here as a VIP host. I'm like, all, right now I can, I can see myself doing this, yeah, I had to.
Speaker 1:Literally I was at mint for a month and a button up damn near mic'd up and I'm standing in front of the door.
Speaker 2:I actually, I actually came over one time and see me doing it. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:So, but hold time. In my head I've already embraced that I'm going to take this shit over.
Speaker 2:Well, I have a question. Yeah, why you continue like where there's some nervousness in your time of working as a VIP? That's cool, right you? But you know your time is coming. Did you have a little bit of nervousness to where you got to fill up a big bit?
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course. Of course, Men weren't small at all. You know what I'm saying. I get, if you, if you get nervous, it's a good thing.
Speaker 2:It's your body trying to say yo, this is real.
Speaker 1:How are you going to adapt? Yeah, right. So of course I got nervous. I get nervous at every party I throw.
Speaker 2:Man me and you talk about it. Yeah, I get nervous, it is Because I care, because.
Speaker 1:I care. So the night before a big concert I don't even want to like. Look at my phone Like I'm having weird stomach feelings, I'm like. I just got to wake up. Hopefully I wake up as every day is going to be good, Don't you?
Speaker 2:don't you buy something before the club, Don't you? Do you have like a vice or something?
Speaker 1:Like I just have my vape.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok For me. I have to go buy fruit snacks to calm me down. I got candy in the club. Yeah, yeah, I have to. I got Skittles, obviously. Yeah, it helps calm me down.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely got my glasses, so you can't see my eyes, they say it ain't even like oh, he's just drunk, motherfucker, All right. So I got my vice. They said like, all right, let me hit it real quick.
Speaker 2:It brings me back. Brings me back Because I'm a wire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when I get excited to talk about shit, I get excited Like now. I'm talking too fast, yeah, that's why I'm going to mess up a few words. Too excited. So that anxiety feeling, it was still here to this day. How are we?
Speaker 2:looking tonight. Same. I don't even want to take a table sheet. Been in the game for a long time and still got that. I don't even want to look at the table sheet, yeah.
Speaker 1:Especially if I know I lacked in booking a table that week but I still got a heavy guest list.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, but it's like I don't like damn, how are we looking? Yeah, we know we always. It always turns out good. That shit is so funny, bro, but that feeling is like damn, I got to take a pregame poop. Ah Yo, I'm myself y'all.
Speaker 2:You're good, bro. It's funny, it's good.
Speaker 1:Now Tyler offered me this deal he goes you down, I'm doing it. So I'm there for a month. No one knows what I'm doing and they're just like oh, even our promoters don't know what I'm doing. Only my friends and my close friends that was helping promote my 18 plus parties knew. So I'm over here like I feel like a snake, like a villain, the bad guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Learning how y'all booking Now. Tyler's like the time is here, yeah, you got to go all in. He's like all right, you got two weeks. Come up with a theme, dah, dah, dah Sign the contract, did it? Came up with my first launch event, so it was like in August, book Nick and Dan for $5,000. They paid for it.
Speaker 2:Nick and Dan. Nick and Dan oh yeah, I got you, I got you, I got you. They were turned to your popular Instagram at the time. This is 2017. You got both of them for $5,000. It's not bad.
Speaker 1:You both of them for $5,000. 2017, it's easy, right. This is like the end going into 2018. So, August, we did it First party. I was scared shitless before I did it, right, Like is this going to be lit? I don't have nothing to tell if a lot of people was coming. We don't have an RSVP at the time, right. We didn't have no ticket sale. We just buy at the door, right. But I knew I had all my friends that actually loved me and fucked with me at 18 plus events.
Speaker 2:They was working, they was hitting. Yeah, they were working. Had them all promoted.
Speaker 1:Snapchat heavy. I was big on Snapchat, snapchat glasses. It was huge. So I was like, oh, I done, did a fucking filter, the name of the event. I met in Scottsdale. It was big, sold out. Tyler was like yo, you want to see how much money you made? He said you said you make 700. But this is three times, four times more than that. I said this is going to me. He goes yeah, I'm like damn, this is bigger than my fucking 18 plus events because I did it in a week, two week promo versus a month promo.
Speaker 1:I'm like damn, way less work. Right, but it was so lit. I'm like damn, I'm doing this every Friday.
Speaker 2:At the time, it was just you by yourself, or were you kicking out?
Speaker 1:The first month it was all me, because I was the VIP host. None of my homies could talk about it. Ndas, they know like type shit, they don't say nothing. So but then, after the first week of me planning it, I hit my homies. I need y'all to help me do this. I don't want to do this by myself. I'm going to be nervous, I need y'all there with me Moving forward?
Speaker 2:did you add some of your people on? Of course, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I started with just like two of my homies, j-how and Nico Nice. Then I was like all right, we got to add all the lit homies I know that be outside with girls my homie Keenan Zay. Then we got 15 deep. So now I'm over here going to my homie, tyler Drew Gill, who has his own screen printing company and he was making me Never Sober shirts. I thought of the name. I was everybody asking I'll ask people why you sober and I'll be like and I'll just drop that. One of the homies was like I'm never sober and I'm like I like that answer. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:So then I started like, oh, I could make a name out of this, so I had Never Sober Fridays was the club name, right? So I said, oh, I'm going to make use, get a logo and put it on shirts, Right? So then I put it on shirts and I'll, every week, would change the color of the shirts and match the color of our flyer. Yeah, right. So now it's like color coding with the outfits or lit. We've built a good team up, had so much motion, did that shit for two years yeah, didn't mean it was killing it.
Speaker 1:Never sober Fridays until I got spotlight Saturdays and other nights yeah, but Never Sober Fridays came hit me hard. I got hit with some shit. I got hit with fucking this guy who said he created Never Sober in 2012 with his business partner that, who was a time at the time was manager of Skylane Bowling Alley and he was like bro, that guy didn't even care about the brand. We've been stopped in 2014. So this guy sees my shirts, never Sober shirts and stores and everything. Yeah, he literally sends a cease and desist to the club. You're going to have to stop selling doing this. Never Sober shit yeah, asap. My dad is a vice president of Red Bull. If you don't stop, we're not giving you guys Red Bull.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, it got that deep Got that deep you starting with the Red Bull, it got so deep. I would wear my hoodies with my logo that Arizona trademark. Right, my brand, I traded the name and everything. Yeah, why would you let me trademark it if there's another brand in Arizona with the same name? For?
Speaker 2:sure.
Speaker 1:I didn't know much about business, didn't finish school, yeah Right. So now I'm like fuck, I'm wearing my own shit. Instagram takes my takes the same as my account. They're like you can't.
Speaker 2:That intellectual property shit is. It's crazy.
Speaker 1:But now I know from my brand. Yeah, I've got a federal trademark route, yep.
Speaker 2:Yep. So now you can't fuck with me.
Speaker 1:I've been battling Rockstar Games for fucking two years now, are you?
Speaker 2:serious, no lie. So so we're going to do that. We're going to say OK, we noted you. Jt, yeah, JT Holmes, Promoter Monster.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So how do you take all this? I want you lucky because I want to know some of those events that you did that were some of the bigger nights, some of the more fun you had.
Speaker 1:I don't want to delve too deep into this.
Speaker 2:I don't want to speak to you crazy on this trademark battle yeah, but I got you just safe, safe, safe, safe safe. But how do you take that journey from nightlife promoting and then boom, you get into the modern Rockstar. Well, when did that transition happen? Covid Covid did a lot.
Speaker 1:May motherfuckers figured. Covid did a number on me.
Speaker 2:If you work the nightlife period you was, you know, you know what. Let me go down to Van Buren. I got to do some strange.
Speaker 1:I just want to wrap this up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I lost my Instagram, but this isn't the first time I did. What a lawsuit. I had a brand name called Arizona Dimes, ASU Dimes, which I would have girls wearing ASU Dimes. Merch used a pitchfork, changed it up a little bit, got ahead with the season to set after two years. So I got to email ASU vs JT Homes. Yeah, and all the girls got an email sent to their letter, mail sent to their house. So their parents are opening it Like who the fuck is JT Homes? And what are you doing? These girls are snapping blast, talking shit on Instagram, Twitter. Jt is fucked. I hope he goes to jail. I'm over here like what are you all talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm panicking, but I got through that. I've been hacked before I got through that, right, so you hacked me with my Instagram. I was verified on Instagram, one of the first I feel like soldier boy, one of the first influencers verified on Instagram. He stole my flow and I stopped bar for bar. I was verified for a year, right so now. I'm in hype right, I got my blue check on Instagram before I got a blue check on Twitter and Twitter was my baby, right?
Speaker 2:You know, you know, getting one on Instagram was basically like oh yeah, you're really somebody. Now You're using Riker's shine to do it, but I got that blue check because I was on Huffington Post.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was on IncEntrepreneurcom. I was promoting myself, finding these people that wrote articles by searching New Times contributor. Huffington Post contributor Follow all of those people. You see that I'm doing business that you follow back. Law of averages maybe 10% follow back, but the 10% that follow back copy and paste DM. How's it going with love of story? Here's my story at ASU Stay Press. It's a good story. I know it's going to inspire others and Huffington Post ran with it. Yeah, so I got the, I got the publication, got the name, lost my Instagram. I'm like, well, fuck Instagram now. Like, take on you, take my brand, my identity. You know I had Arizona trademark. Yeah, so I was hot again, started over, right, Was still doing. Meant pandemic homes, pandemic hits. We started here getting winded on November 2019. Right, but February 2020 is when it started hitting Arizona. Yeah, First case one of my homies caught it was the first. I'm like, damn you fucked.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't got this shit here.
Speaker 1:Where was you at?
Speaker 2:Like when you, when you patient one, my fucks is like this. They looking at you like crazy. Like, oh how do, you got how you doing, you doing, yeah. We say you all right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So now I'm at the crib every day like are we going to close the club? Like we're still open right now? We already. I was already told that mint was going to shut down this year if we don't make enough money to pay for the next year's lease. But the lease wasn't going to expire until like July, august, right, february comes. We, it's getting shaky. I'm wearing gloves in the club, all right, like people weren't coming out. March comes. I think that we ended like March 5th or April, early April. We realized spring training wasn't coming. That cancel spring training. We were banking on spring training to make our money. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:Right, all right, spring training Right.
Speaker 1:So I'm over here like no one, like shit might hit the fan. What am I going to do? Well, I know I got a following. I know I've been here before. Backs against the wall, I come through clear, right, no scratches, so fucking. But this shit hit the fan, hit me different. I'm like, when a club is closed, y'all are still open, though, and I'm like, well, this, like I was a lucky hating. Like, yeah, I better shut down to only one affected by this bad karma. Like, what did I do wrong? Right, then y'all shut down. I'm like, all right, it's not just us, yeah, everybody. So now, what are we all doing? Right, yeah, what are?
Speaker 1:we doing now? Yeah, we have in quarantine parties in our crib. See your shots, Take a shot. I post on my story. Y'all got to take a shot. We're drinking in a crib just playing Call of Duty Wars on huge locked in, Right. But now I'm like, after like two months of this, I'm bored. Now I'm like I got to do what I've known to do. I got a party but we can't party, or Airbnb is no more. You can't rent those out. It's just different what's happening. So now I'm over here just watching movies and I'm like I get inspired off of animations and Marvel shit. So I was watching Marvel, Avengers or Iron man and I'm like the first five minutes is AC DC back in black. So I'm like why do all these music movies start with an older old rock song? And I'm like, let me look into old rock now. Why is it the bed the biggest? Like you know, you talk about the Beatles, Elvis, right, they hype the white music. They do.
Speaker 2:They're overly hype Right.
Speaker 1:Forced it down our throats, right, Rock music. So now I'm over here like I can fuck with this. It's just laughs Like all right, it's good. Music is making me feel good. Right, I'm not over here thinking about shooting this shit up. So I'm over here watching rock inspiration videos like old parties, of how wild they are. Everyone called me a rock star. My Instagram at the time was real rock star JT, right Before modern rock star.
Speaker 2:Right, right.
Speaker 1:Everyone had known I was a rock star. I had right here where biker jackets, glasses like, look like a rock star.
Speaker 2:I set up for it, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like rebel child.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a party animal, right. So now I'm like loving this rock music and I'm like I need to create a brand off of this shit. Like I hit up my roommate, I was like, after watching all these documentaries, I'm like how do you feel about the name modern rock stars? He goes for what, though? I'm like you know YouTube channel like no for a clothing brand. He goes that's fire he goes see if it's available on Instagram.
Speaker 2:You got to check first. I checked yeah.
Speaker 1:Instagram spelled out completely modern. It was not available but abbreviated MDRN, which is a known abbreviation of modern, was available. Rockstars I said okay, now let's see if the domain is of taken modern. Rockstarscom was available to buy Right.
Speaker 2:That means no one's using the brand. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:Right. I'm like, all right, I've learned from Never Sober getting snatched. I got to do my due diligence now, got the Instagram, got the domain MDRN Rockstars and I'm like I got. I think I got something, because Never Sober was a hit.
Speaker 2:Why is it like it's? It's really that one hurts you, I hurt me, so bad Rappers were using it in lyrics.
Speaker 1:That was the easy promo Put it over a flyer like Never Sober Fridays. Yeah, all right. So now I'm over here. I got modern rockstars, but I'm like, if you are asking, like, what made you think about it? I'm like people were I was selling shirts, I was selling clothes, like I was working at these stores, so I know what people were wearing going into these stores to wear it by with their shoes, right Match, but people were wearing a lot of vintage Banshee's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, let's up and pray for dad.
Speaker 1:Right, I want to rock Rock, but look, these people don't that we're wearing it. We're just going to zoomies and like damage shirts hard. Got the kiss the fucking lips, all right, right, that's all right, because it looks cool. They seen rappers wear it Right. So I get with a old, real fan. What's your favorite song?
Speaker 2:Ask you on the spot what's she going to say? I just like the shirts Pour some sugar on me, yeah.
Speaker 1:But when people get sketched out like you ask somebody that just bought it because he wants to look cool for a girl, For sure. Right Like why are you even questioning him?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Let him be. I see you rocking marble right now. Some old comment, I like it, right, but like I'm not going to ask you why you wearing it, Right yeah. Who cares? So I'm over here seeing like people get criticized for wearing shit like that. Let me do a brand Modern Rockstars. Why am I doing it? It's 2023. Right At the time it was 2021. No, it's 2020. All the pandemic, yeah, 2020. Lil Uzi's a rock star, but he's not the same rock star as Marilyn Manson.
Speaker 2:For sure he's a modern rock star.
Speaker 1:He dresses different, talks about different shit, he's rapping with it, but he's still a rock star. So that's why I got the name Modern Rockstars. I'm a modern rock star Where's Street, where's shit. Uzi Trippie Red Juice World. This is the artist that I'm sure did. I got you yeah, and they all are crazy like the shit they're doing. Yeah Right, uzi put a diamond in his head, that's some rock star shit yeah.
Speaker 2:Right or wrong, You're right. You're right Big town right.
Speaker 1:So like I just want to rock, you know what I'm saying. So that's Modern Rockstars. The name flows good off the tongue. I'm like, oh, I can just recreate.
Speaker 2:It does very much flow well Off the tongue. It sounds good, right.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to recreate the same style of artist's ACDC shirt, but now make it more modern. But instead, oh, let's make a twist on Waffle Wall Street. Now I do it with Wall Street design. I see you Him doing coke off of the taste when you got caught cheating. Put that on a shirt. Let's see who buys it. Waffle Wall Street's trending again because it just got uploaded to Netflix. Yup, targeting that Waffle Wall Street fans. Smart. Sell sell, sell, sell, sell, sell, sell Right.
Speaker 2:That was the first shirt you did.
Speaker 1:That's not the first shirt, but I just had the idea of how I could recreate shit. The first shirt I did was it's called Only the Strong Survive. The message behind that was if you can get through COVID, you can get through anything. Only the Strong will survive this, yes, right. So I put that on the back as a message. Like we standing on this had a guy on his knees with a sword, like ah, this killed everybody. I made it through this war Like Iron man. When this armor getting he's like, ah, same type of concept, right. But I was like I want to do skeletons, because skeletons is rock inspired, like dark shit.
Speaker 2:Dark shit.
Speaker 1:So I'm like I don't want to be doing some different.
Speaker 2:Ozzy Owl's born shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, exactly so like.
Speaker 1:That was why I do skeletons. There's other brands that do skeletons, but they do it because it's trendy. I'm doing it because it's rock inspired. It is the culture. I'm just recreating it. And now I'm switching each design and having little Easter eggs in each one, but it's still the same theme. But then you put me in a, you try to put me in a box, saying, oh, your brand's only good for skeletons. Well, here's going to be a different design. No skeletons, right? Because you all doubted me that I was going to do this brand, right. Only my real friends supported me the first six months.
Speaker 2:That's how I beat up bro. It's crazy, that's listen.
Speaker 1:I've been showing you all love, getting y'all in clubs for free. You can't spend money $30 to support my brand.
Speaker 2:Folks do not remember. Remember all your wins. They only remember your first failure, last failure. They don't see what happens behind the scenes.
Speaker 1:They just see your success. So then they're like you got a silver spoon. You know what I'm saying? They're going to always hate on how you got there. Oh, you, just around the sun. So now he's athletes. That's why your brand is. No, it's not. I built my name up, got people to fuck with me, so now they're just talking Everyone is cheap.
Speaker 2:When did you first see the success of it?
Speaker 1:Literally the first month. The first month, my Twitter reacted good.
Speaker 2:When did you? What time of the year was it?
Speaker 1:This is September 2020.
Speaker 2:2020, the first design you dropped.
Speaker 1:I sent the picture. Only the strong survived. Yeah, I sent the mock-up to Devin Booker. He goes that's shit hard. He messes me. Yeah, so I got confirmation, athletes, that we're like right so now.
Speaker 1:Okay, now let's see what I can do next. Let's drop off then, like I promoted flyers. If we could get a new flyer, pay for a flyer and promote something to make money every week. Why can't I do a new shirt every week? Everyone wants me to. Why don't you drop in a $150 shirt like this brand? Because my clients' tail don't have the money to buy that For sure.
Speaker 2:You want to know your client Got to know your client's tail as a part of marketing?
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure. Who you selling to, right and who do you listen to? Yeah Right. So I'm not going to listen to y'all telling me I should buy a high end garments when I know I used a PUA loan to use this money.
Speaker 2:I'm gambling on myself, for sure.
Speaker 1:But I'm not going to gamble on myself and listen to you. And what have you done? What have you sold? No, not mean to be an asshole, but what have they done Not a lot.
Speaker 2:Everybody's got who you listen to, right, yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm not listening to you. I'm going to find some people that do good brands on YouTube and study what they're doing, for sure, right? So I learned from Dropship I treat my brand like a Dropship woman brand, where I don't ship your shit until I get your money, then I allow a certain amount of days to utilize that money, keep it in production, then I ship your shit. Yeah, right, but I'm not just sitting going blanks, pressed and ready to go in this design. No, because I'm not just going to put that money in there and it just sits. Yeah, a lot of people end up buying tracksuits and they're just sitting going a hella expensive place.
Speaker 1:Yes, you try to be off-white, but now you can't sell it, right? So I was like I want a $30, $50 shirts. The parents are going to walk into the mall with their kids buying them shoes. They're going to buy that shirt for back to school, for sure, right? So the price is right, the price is right. So then I started. I'm gaming. Right, I know how to target any audience so I can drop a shirt and target that audience and sell that shirt, right? So I'm over here playing Call of Duty a lot and I'm like I should do a Call of Duty. I did an MJ basketball design for basketball fans. I knew that you go with celebs, trendy shit. Michael Jordan always sells people. World brands.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So use that modern rock star still vintage style, people love the design. Then I'm like all right, let me do a Call of Duty one. The Call of Duty design hit the community so hard because I was following all of these gamers. Man, I'm verified. They're going to follow back like who are you? Oh, you run Arizona, you doing a lit shit. They follow back. Right, you got stats and all you're actually good. I bought a PC because I learned that's what gamers do. They get real gamers around PCs, yeah, yeah. And that's where, after my, shit like games for second games is best on PCs.
Speaker 2:It hurts my heart.
Speaker 1:I didn't know nothing about it. Yeah, but I was like I got money, let me get it. Let me play it the best. I don't want to be weak, I'm competitive. Yeah, I want to be like y'all are on advantage. I'm getting advantage, right. So now I'm killing the gaming shit. I got a bit of the top phase. Clan members are following me now Messages them Yo, what's your address, bro? I got a free shirt for you as an influencer. Everybody loves them. Yeah, you got something free for me. All I hear is free for show. No, yes.
Speaker 1:I said brother, when everyone stream, I'll come through your channel. You don't even tell me when you're wearing it. Yeah, just going to throw a shirt on your stream. But then one of the biggest phase guys, a black creator named us swag, wore my shit Twitter JT. Oh my God, swags, wear my red sobs. I got the notification that he was live, so now that I started to turn on his notifications, I see him eight shirts. Yeah, now the average is he might not wear more this week, but next week.
Speaker 2:Right One of the weeks he's going to put that one on.
Speaker 1:So then I would just screen record that post on posted on Twitter. Now I'm following his followers. Yeah, they're going to be like who's JT? They see the pin sweetest swag wearing modern rock stars. Then they follow me. Then I hit him with an auto message How's it going? You ever see my brand? Check it out Right. Then they start they want to be cool like swag. Yeah, now they're buying his call of duty shirt.
Speaker 2:Now it's blowing up and you took off with the modern warfare.
Speaker 1:Yes, right.
Speaker 2:So then how did?
Speaker 1:you end up from modern warfare to the suns you got suns and coyotes. You want to tell us about the suns before I got to speak about the suns.
Speaker 2:Oh, my bad, I was just saying because we deep in time. So I'm just trying to make it quick, you'll be good.
Speaker 1:I got to collab with modern war zone. Modern war zone was the account, because the game is modern warfare. It's a guy named Doug runs this big account 500,000 followers. I'm like yo. All the gamers follow me. I want you to promote a shirt. What do we got to do? Can we collab on it? I come up with the design. I pay you every two weeks based off the code you promote and give you kickback. You're going to be the first brand ambassador, but you're not a brand ambassador. It's your collab. You can market it. That shirt goes crazy Right Now. People are talking, but now my fans is huge now loving the brand.
Speaker 1:The suns reached out to me in December. I've always wanted to work with the suns. I've been around the suns players for years, so the suns are like yo. We heard about you. Hit me on Instagram. How can we work with you? We want to work with you, but we see you do skeletons. There's a brand we collab with called Warren Lotus. We are doing skeletons. I already know Warren Lotus is big. All this loves Warren, but I'm like all right, I'm different. I got a crazy mindset or like, and if I want to, I'm going to get it. I'm really like imaginative, I come up with crazy designs. You're not going to put me in a box and tell me I can't do this. So I was like I got you no skeletons for sure. You gave me a black history month. You're going to use me anyway. I'm black, it's okay.
Speaker 2:I just want your platform.
Speaker 1:I just want your platform Right. So I came up with a design. It was two fists. One was Phoenix Suns the design they use on the court. One was black history month colors. They loved it. Put it in a team shop, Sold out. Fans were talking about it everywhere, all over Twitter Like, oh my gosh, you're with the suns now You're making moves. Yeah, Right, after that went crazy. A month later they doubled back. They're like yo. We wanted to collab with you again, but this time it's with fries we got we want to order 2500 shirts.
Speaker 2:That's dope. I said 2500 shirts.
Speaker 1:Bet I show my mom like yo, I got paid this amount of money. She goes that's more than I've ever got paid in a check. That's crazy. I said, okay, now you know I made it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Now what's next? I want the fucking coyotes, I want the cardinals, I want call of duty, I want everybody. So now I got two, two collabs. Now I'm reaching out to these brands. Call of Duty hits me up, that's all you need, you really?
Speaker 2:only need one, and then you leverage it. You can just yeah, you can work with it.
Speaker 1:Right, he's my first article to get more articles.
Speaker 2:Yep for sure.
Speaker 1:Call of Duty hits me up. They're like yo we see your brand everywhere.
Speaker 1:Let's call of duty man, I grew up with it. It's called duty dude. Oh my God, my very first collab. Because I grew up playing modern warfare too and I I love attraction is everything. I told you that already. Right, so I manifested it subconsciously too. So I grew up playing modern warfare too, favorite game. They remastered it and dropped it again in September. They said we want to collab with you for the modern warfare to new release, or flying 250, 275 creators from all over the world to San Diego and we're to find them out and their shirt is going to be in this gift bag. I said what Most of these creators are the found went and call one of the brand because these creators were going to their events and wearing modern rock star. Yeah, so like they're wearing, that's not a call of duty, it's not our call of duty shirt, but that's fire. We're not stepping on toes with that design because we throw it. No, I didn't use no faces, use my skeleton.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they loved it. I thought. When they hit me up I said I don't see how the job are going to send me a cease and desist. I got hit with so many already. I got hit with so many at the job, shut me down. No we love it. Our coworkers at Activision want shirts. We want them to start. Where is it why they stream? I said, well, we're here.
Speaker 2:We're surprised you didn't say who is it. I need to find it, I just thank y'all for supporting. No, for sure, so that collab goes crazy.
Speaker 1:But they only gave it to the top creators. All these creators are wearing this call of duty inspired shirt. They know it's modern rock stars, it says modern rock stars, but they like I can't buy it. I'm like I wish I could sell it because I'll be up millions off of that one design that nobody can get. But then it's so supply and demand. I was doing basic black cheese and white cheese, cheap shirts and just trying to make money. But the next round is I'm going cutting soul, I'm going vinyl on hoodies, I'm going thicker garments. So that collab went crazy. So much feedback. Then came coming more Fucking Phoenix Rising. I got Phoenix Rising this year. Last year was the, this year also was a Phoenix Rising and the coyotes hockey team.
Speaker 2:Last year was the suns in the call of duty.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, even if my sales this year don't reflect what I did last year when it was really momentum, I'm still getting the collapse. So I know next year what did I do less of this year? Well, I didn't promote that much because I was like trying to get more collapse and more wholesale stores. I'm in 11 stores right now, Are you?
Speaker 2:really.
Speaker 1:Yes, I do everything. I'm over here using this website called Brand Boom putting my line items up there. I'm changing my Shopify site to make it look good Like I do everything Stay on top of it. Stay on top of it. I put eight hours a day on my computer.
Speaker 2:That's like the craziest thing about it. You put the laptop out when we had to meet and my mother was smoking. You know what I'm saying? That's how much of my mother you use that.
Speaker 1:I'm locked in so like if I want something, I'm going to get it. You're not going to tell me I can't do this. I'm not going to listen to that, because I've proven so many people wrong and I'm still here. My mom thought I was going to get locked up my first year coming down here. You're going to go to jail or Sheriff Joe paterno, or you're going to be going pink underwear here because I got an attitude. You think I'm just going to last shower at the top. No, you're crazy.
Speaker 2:So where you're at right now and the success that you've had in the brand, the craziest thing is, I've always thought, man, as you get older and as your let's just say, your name is almost cemented.
Speaker 1:Like a Mount Rushmore. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:So you want to stay relevant, you want to stay active. What? Is the next move, for how do you continue?
Speaker 1:Well, I took two years. I took a year out of the club Business. I had a new club called true. I went there for like three weeks and I was like this just feels off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I don't need to force my way back in the game. Now I'm kind of feeling old because it's been so long and I was in the game. I feel like Michael Jordan won't even tire. But then when I came back in the game you know, off me and new opportunity I felt like I'm bad. But now it's different. But now it's different because I'm not doing this club shit to keep being in the club. Yeah, so it's not my primary source now.
Speaker 1:It was once my primary source. Now my clothing is so. Every time I go to the club, I'm wearing modern rock stars. I'm a walking brand yeah. Then I started to see people come to the club wear my brand and it makes me feel good, that's crazy. Then they meet me because they met me on Twitter, meet and go to the club wearing this shit. They already know they're going to meet me, so they wear this shit on purpose. Get a picture with me, I show them so much love.
Speaker 1:They want to come back every weekend and they're going to wear a different modern rock star shirt because they're like. I don't want JT to see me in the same shirt. Yeah, the guys buying 11 shirts just come to the club, look nice. And now he's spending again because I'm going to show less than anybody in my brain For sure.
Speaker 1:You know, you took a leap of faith in trusting me, in my brand to support. So I show love. So, like now, it's like the next go for me is I plan on having my own store next year in the mall Nice.
Speaker 1:I don't want to get a plaza spot. Now people hating on me trying to break my window. I haven't set a spot. A homie runs a store called Studio 23, running for years selling shoes. They would break his windows every three months. That's a stress. I don't want no hater dealing with that. So no, I'll get a spot in the mall. I'm going to this last quarter Black Friday's around the corner I'm about to run a crazy sale Get new fans, new supporters. Well before we okay.
Speaker 2:So before I do, you know the check out here, because you know we've been at it, for we've been at it Hour, Hour and a half. You think it's just been an hour and a half, my guy. We are at an hour and 40.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a good one. The five videos I watch at podcast, yeah, hour and a half, well, this is my first one that I've done at this long.
Speaker 2:even when I do my solo, I do a lot of my. I'm wild when I do my solo episodes. I do a lot of solo episodes in my interview.
Speaker 1:I try to keep an hour, so I don't even mind the conversation I had so much to talk about. Oh yeah, you had to know how I got here. I'm with it, for sure, for sure, I've been here for 10 years.
Speaker 2:I absolutely love all of it. So then, now let's, let's do some things here. Let's see, give me at least three binge worthy shows. You stand behind, stand behind.
Speaker 1:Game of Thrones yeah Right, if you like old shit, like that type of shit. Game of Thrones, I got a, I got a show for every like audience. I feel like Okay. Game of Thrones. Are those people like you like good cinematography. You want to binge some good shit. Game of Thrones, that's great, you like hip hop movies. You like boys in the hood. You'll love power. Yeah, right, third he said third.
Speaker 1:Third is tough Like billions, billions, billions, oh my God, I don't even know how I can think of that. Billions is my favorite show after yeah, okay, right. I loved entourage.
Speaker 2:Entourage was some oh my God, right up my eye, was relatable. He's a round celebrity, he's a star, that's my shit.
Speaker 1:How can I learn from this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have every celeb in it.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't mind. Mark Wahlberg is one of my favorite actors. I love Mark Wahlberg.
Speaker 2:Even though he, you know, sound like he ain't got no bass in his voice.
Speaker 1:I'm with you on that. It was not as good as the show.
Speaker 2:I just wanted it, though, yeah.
Speaker 1:I just you know I was a big fan of the show, so I was.
Speaker 2:I was down to watch the movie.
Speaker 1:But I wasn't watching it when y'all were watching it. I was watching it during the pandemic.
Speaker 2:Oh, you wasn't hip then. No, you got to, you got okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I watched it late as a late bloomer, fingers crossed. I got to break in high school.
Speaker 2:I'm not a big uh, um, uh of what Hollywood does when they go take something and they try to bring it back and redo it. Yeah, but I'll take, I'll let them take a risk on entourage. You want to bring it back? I'll let them take a risk. Yeah, they're gonna take a risk on it, it's just a promoter lifestyle. Yeah, all of you want.
Speaker 1:But it's like I even most people hated the weekends show on HBO. Yeah, I, low key, learned shit off of it.
Speaker 2:It was showing some shit that happens. You liked it, you liked it.
Speaker 1:It was cool for watching the weekend it was wild, but that's. I've been there. Yeah, I've been around all that shit they showed in the show, yeah. Then it's like, oh, they're talking about how record labels control their music. You can see it happening, oh for sure. So, like you're seeing knowledge, I'm still learning shit based off of this. Yeah, it's like we're gonna have a good watch, but it was something to throw on. I had nothing to throw on.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:My shows be airing on Thursdays of this show here on Sunday. Okay, give me something to watch where I'm laid back on a Sunday relaxing Got you All right.
Speaker 2:You a target fan, you go to Target.
Speaker 1:Target. No, you don't like Target. I mean, I like the target by my house because it's a bunch of beautiful women here. Asu camp.
Speaker 2:With your Walmart man.
Speaker 1:Not even none of that. I got social anxiety.
Speaker 2:So you know how do you get. Would you Instacart guy?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Door to Ash. All right Fuck it.
Speaker 2:You make my whole question change. Let me just try to flip it.
Speaker 1:I feel like a bird, okay.
Speaker 2:So let's just say you, you at the crib, yeah Right, you at the crib, you chilling you like man, I'm hungry, what's?
Speaker 1:my go to.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, you hungry and you want to cook. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but you, you, you know that, like I ain't seen my guys, you know what I take that back. You about to cook at the crib. You know what I'm saying? It's three celebrities, cause you like that, you Instacart and you door dash. Right, it's three celebrities you want to invite over to your crib. Yep, they could be dead or alive and you're going to sit down and eat with them, right? Who are the three celebrities and what are you door dashing to? Feed the three celebrities in your crib?
Speaker 1:that's about to eat. These can be any celebrities and it's dead or alive man. Dead or alive, Dead or alive man, Three celebrities.
Speaker 2:You about to door dash the food.
Speaker 1:I'm going Denzel Washington.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, son, all right.
Speaker 1:Kobe Bryant oh wow, dean, that's my guy oh and I'm going Kanye West Nice and it's like usually I want to say just bad bitches but I don't care about the girl I want to learn yeah.
Speaker 2:Denzel.
Speaker 1:Washington, one of the goats in acting. Yeah, black man. All right, he was going through a bunch of adversity growing up like I have been. We talked about for sure. Kobe Bryant mama mentality is the wheel.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you got to get a piece of that mama mentality.
Speaker 1:It's a wheel to push through. I feel like it's instilled in me. Yeah Right, kanye West clothing fashion. He's a rock star.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:You can say whatever the fuck he wants and you're going to feel some type of way about it, but Kanye will talk his shit and I and that's somehow I resonate with it.
Speaker 2:No, I think you go on. They hate this man yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to talk about what he said, but they hate that man. But there's truth in everything. Right, so that's like damn, seeing the times happen now, I was like yo, he was right here when y'all said he was crazy. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:So what you feeding them now, man? What am I feeding them? What you hopping on, door, dash and what do you order and say fellas with, I'm about to order something to eat, just hold tight.
Speaker 1:What you getting, what you going to order, what you going to be on Door Dash you can't order sushi.
Speaker 2:You can't order sushi.
Speaker 1:You don't order sushi delivery to Door Dash. You don't trust it. It's just it has such a short shelf life.
Speaker 2:It does, it does.
Speaker 1:It's got to be presented fresh off, right on my plate. Yeah, I've done it before, I'm sorry, by traveling and I sketch. I'm ordering fucking Mastros Whatever the best delivery. You are Damn With that delivery fee, with that delivery fee, that's an investment that delivery fee. Okay, it's an investment. No, I feel that it's been a sense we're going to eat some good steak and shit and mac and cheese and we chillin and I'm going when we talking.
Speaker 2:I fuck with it. Can you do me a solid yeah, tell everybody where you know. They already know, but tell them where they can go, get the modern rock stars where they can follow you. Do you have?
Speaker 1:YouTube. I got a YouTube channel Modern Rock Stars. Yeah, what's going on? Modern Rock Stars, m-o-d-e-r-n Rock Stars on everything except Instagram, and that's coming because. I got my fader, or trademark, just got approved. Nice. Now I'm about to hit Instagram and say yo, the owner of Modern Rock Stars, spelled out on Instagram, hasn't used that account since 2016. Nice, there's no post on it. They're not active. It was a promo account.
Speaker 2:There's something on YouTube that shows you how you can go and take and get.
Speaker 1:You can reach out to Instagram.
Speaker 2:Get accounts. Is that what it is? No, so no.
Speaker 1:The way I got taken down is the way I'm going to get this account taken down. I personally reached out to Instagram.
Speaker 2:On some gangsta shit. On some gangsta shit.
Speaker 1:I don't. They asked for my trademark, my federal trademark.
Speaker 2:Got. You Didn't have it, it was pending.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, well, I'm going to do this later, okay, right, but they're like, the guy who's on it is still active, but he's not posting or doing anything. Yeah, so he's just trying to sell it. So you're just trying to hold this over my head. I don't know who you are. I've already been paid somebody on PayPal and I got scammed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know I'm going for that again, not trusting you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't even know who you are and where you're at Exactly. Okay, you ain't posted on Instagram since 2016. Just give it to me.
Speaker 2:I said you go in there on some billion shit. You take the shit.
Speaker 1:Oh, my lawyer's about to hit up Instagram with the letter and then I'm going to get that account. So right now, mdr in on Instagram, mdr in Rockstars we're modern rock stars. Got both domains, mdr and M's modern, spelled out on Google or website.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got both domains for that, so I know you did some stuffy shirts. Yeah, step 3. There was some joints. I had two of them joints.
Speaker 1:The night night and I was like, oh, that belongs on his shirt. I got some new shit dropping with a brand called B Special out here, local brand. We got some knitted hoodies dropping. I'm not dope. Yeah, that's dropping like the next two weeks.
Speaker 2:I want to say thank you, man.
Speaker 1:Thank you for having me. This is my first fucking video podcast. You look good, man, you don't look good. Yeah, you look good, you look good.
Speaker 2:You look good. You know what I'm saying. See, I always tell people I ain't got the face to be in front of the camera. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's what I said. That's the celeb mindset. It's like you know so many people know you, so now you're caring about what people think. That's how I felt like I didn't have the face, I got to wear my glasses and I like how do I look?
Speaker 2:to y'all yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? That's because we are already judged For real.
Speaker 2:That's why.
Speaker 1:I went to Walmart, because I go to Walmart wearing pajamas, thinking no one's going to see me. Then people are like yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean some check out. Like like how the fuck? I'm just like mind your business, bro, I'm not trying to talk to you, text me. What happened in the day, like, where people hit up like I think I've seen you here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, now my fucks going to talk to you now. Yeah, they're going to come talk to you. They're pulling up.
Speaker 1:Now feel how a celebrity feel just shopping at Walmart. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Sometimes sometimes Yo Drake who's getting Imagine that video goes so viral? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:For sure, man. Again, I want to say thank you, man, and for everybody listening, I am Thaddeus Shade. You can go find me at Thaddeusshade on Instagram, at Thaddeus Shade on Twitter and same on YouTube. Man Again, thank you. Modern rockstar JT Holmes, it was fun. You are a proper legend, yeah.
Speaker 1:You have done the proper work.
Speaker 2:Appreciate it, Respect and motherfuckers. You cool as hell.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? Try it. If you turn your back, I'm going to steal your sunglasses, if you turn your back, I'm going to steal your sunglasses. I'm just letting you know I can't take these, you know. I feel like when I got the glasses on, I'm JT, when I got them off, I'm just regular in my name.
Speaker 2:Nah, man, stop it. It's like you feel your power. Come on you. You don't even know who I am. I'm invisible. I got you Without feeling so safe. That's how I feel about my graphic, tee. I don't feel the same without my graphic tee.
Speaker 1:Everybody love a good graphic tee man.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure, man, I take it easy, Appreciate it yeah, love.