In this poddy i chat with the fast and furious Cimarra Ryan aka Spiritual Bogan aka Chimaseratias we discuss her lifestyle overhaul through spiritual practices, her experience of DMT, Hypnotherapy to quit ciggies. Also i make some terrible analagies about saplings, gum trees and self development, koala conscoiusness and we decide with out any proof what so ever that 60 years of nutritional information has been leading us all into illness in old age...