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The boxing world was buzzing this weekend as Terrence "Bud" Crawford dominated Canelo Alvarez in their highly anticipated Netflix-streamed bout. Our hosts break down not just the technical aspects of Crawford's victory, but the larger implications for boxing as a sport trying to reclaim relevance in the UFC era. Netflix's free-access approach brought unprecedented eyeballs to the match, potentially signaling a new distribution model for combat sports.

Beyond the ring, we tackle the Pentagon's controversial new beard policy that has military members on edge. The recently issued memo states service members requiring shaving waivers for more than a year may face separation, marking a significant reversal after years of increasing accommodations. We explore this from multiple perspectives – from medical necessity to military readiness – while acknowledging the disproportionate impact on African American service members who often require shaving waivers due to skin conditions.

The conversation shifts to NFL Week 2 predictions, highlighting the Eagles-Chiefs matchup as the game to watch. Our hosts passionately debate whether Kansas City will bounce back from their surprising Week 1 loss or if Philadelphia's defensive returns and offensive firepower will prove too much for the Chiefs at home. We close with a frustrated commentary on the WNBA's puzzling decision to begin their playoffs during NFL Week 2, showcasing the ongoing challenges in women's sports marketing.

Whether you're a combat sports enthusiast, military member, or football fan, this episode delivers passionate analysis and insider perspectives on the week's most compelling stories. Join the conversation and let us know your thoughts on these hot-button issues!

NFL Week Two Discussions Begin

Speaker 1

8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, GO.

Speaker 2

What up, what up, what up. Give my Martin on what's going on. People, we back, we back. We coming to you more often, more familiar. Let me take DC out because he's obviously not here, so you just get me and I'm bearded up for real. We're going to talk about the beard. My knee is shaved mine, shaved mine soon. Let me make sure everybody can hear me. Anybody in the building want to give me a sound check? That would be love, because it's just me by myself, so that would be love, of course. Make sure this is all set up. Yeah, yeah, yeah Got two things. Did anybody watch the fight last night? Can't wait to hear y'all opinions about the fight. Can't wait to hear what y'all think. Can't wait to hear how y'all thought it went. What up, philly?

Speaker 1

What up, what up? There you go, peace, peace human beings, peace human beings. Happy Sunday to you all. Hope everybody's feeling good today.

Speaker 2

Alright, make sure everything sounds good. Good to go. We're going to have a lot of interesting Conversations today. Bring y'all into the NFL. Start up of week two so y'all can join in. Ain't going to talk too much about the NFL, but we week two so y'all can join in. Ain't going to talk too much about the NFL, but we'll do some. I did some bets this week so hopefully they hit. Man, you know what my bet would have hit you last week, but Jamar Chase only got 25 yards Out of all the people. Jamar Chase, is your hat gleaming or is that your screen? Oh, that's my hat, man. It's like lighting up. Yeah, man, it's like battery operated.

Speaker 1

Why you all in my business man? Your business is on the screen.

Speaker 2

Well, nobody else asking me about it, they will once they see it, Well look just chalk it up to being a Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1

You know what I'm saying? That's what Super Bowl champs get. We get lighted hats. You know what I'm saying? We do things big around here, Padre.

Speaker 2

Man, I'm just a South Dakota Philly fan, all right.

Speaker 1

All right. First of all, I was only born in South Dakota.

Speaker 2

Yo, ever since your presiding officer said that man, that's all it's been about. That's the joke.

Speaker 1

I was getting text messages from people talking about man, you a poser man, I was a military brat.

Speaker 2

That's crazy. Everything's working. I need to change that how that looks, but I'll do it next time. Alright, let's go ahead and get to this, because we only got an hour. Quick, quick, quick show. We bring y'all. We brought y'all. Three shows this week, three shows, three. Yeah, we did the Sunday night, we did the Thursday night game, we did the show on Thursday.

Speaker 1

Now we're here. Yeah, three shows, that's good, and I just want to point out I will give ourselves a round of applause, definitely Because we advertised when it was coming on at 11, and we only busted time by like two minutes.

Speaker 2

Yo yes.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about that, let's go into that.

Speaker 2

Go right ahead. People appreciate you, charles. Hey, charles Davis, we were just thinking about you. What did we bring up about Charles Davis? We were just talking about him not too long ago. His loss, oh, it was the Commanders. It was the Commanders' loss. Man, y'all look bad. Ooh-wee, y'all look bad. All right, crawford, if y'all don't know, terrence Budd nickname.

Speaker 1

Crawford, do you know the genesis behind that name? Bud? Is that his name?

Crawford vs. Canelo Fight Analysis

Speaker 2

No, no, I thought it was Terrence Curious, but Terrence Bud Crawford did something unbelievable last night. First of all, he beat Canelo, who was 63-2. 63 effing fights, 63 wins, let me get it right. 63 wins, I think it's seven. So yesterday was 68 fights, 63 wins, let me get it right. 63 wins, I think it's seven. So yesterday was 68 fights. That's crazy. But beat him yesterday. Talkers look worse. We'll see tonight. We'll see today. We'll see today. We all might be one and one. Philly or Eagles going to lose too. So we all might be one and one. But yeah, so Terrence won last night, not dramatic fashion, but he pretty much out pointed him.

Speaker 2

I'm not sure who stayed up and watched the fight. I feel like the whole nation stayed up. First of all, shout out to Netflix for providing free content. And it worked. Jake Paul, mike Tyson fight yeah, that thing was streaming or messing up all over the place. So everything worked out well. Boring card we just talked about this For the most part, horrible. Boring card, super boring. And this is why boxing will never amount to ufc, in my personal opinion, anymore anymore. Boxing used to be the thing, but not really. No more. Gene harrison in the building. We're gonna talk bro. Uh, he's a boxer, tyson said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. He showed sure did, he sure did. But I didn't think it was a bad fight, he just got outpointed. I did not think Bud was going to go up that far in weight and I thought Canelo would push his weight around but he couldn't get in the inside. It was just. I mean, I see why people don't want to fight Crawford, why nobody called him out, because Crawford was beasting it up.

Speaker 1

Let Crawford, why nobody?

Speaker 2

called him out Because Crawford was beasting it up. Let me turn my light off. Anyway, talking a lot your opinion on the fight. Did you watch it?

Speaker 1

You know, to be honest, I haven't been following boxing as closely as I should, but this match intrigued me because there was a lot of buzz behind it. Plus, it was free, so that was good too, because if you have a Netflix subscription, so my wife and I watched it last night. What I took from the fight was never seeing either of them fight. What I took from it is I heard about Canelo being at a different weight class and Crawford had to get up to his weight class. It didn't look like it to me.

Speaker 1

Canelo was pushing Crawford away the majority of the flight fight I'm sorry, flight fight Crawford was trying to go inside every time and he just kept pushing, pushing him. And so I said to myself like yo, this dude, all this stuff they were saying about Canelo, talking about his power and stuff, I didn't see it. There was a couple of shots he gave him, but Crawford was like his speed and the hands. It was like boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. He would dodge out or whatever. And it's funny, his corner was saying how Crawford was taking a lot of punches. They was like, yeah, you throwing good combinations, but you got to work on your defense Because Crawford was taking some punishment. It's just Crawford was taking some punishment?

Speaker 2

yeah, it's just Crawford, to your point, was scoring more points. Yeah, he just outpointed him. I mean to y'all can give me your opinion. Boxing's just so boring, like I know there's a sweet science to boxing, but to watch it it is very hard to watch. It is especially when it's a six-hour program, because that Netflix was a six-hour program. Probably two of those was just talking and fighting was probably like another four. But the fights before were real boring. The fight what is it called? The undercar fight? The fight right before it, that was horrible, vargas Jr. Yeah, the fight right before it, that was horrible, vargas Jr.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that was terrible. God, that was terrible.

Speaker 2

It was horrible. The fight before that with the Canadian, that was pretty good. They were fighting in a fight, that was really good. They were just going back and forth Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo boo. I mean that's really all it was. You get me, I get you, you get me, I. It feels like boxing training. That's what it looked like to me. They were just training. That's why I didn't really appreciate it, because they were just that's what we do in training you give a couple, take a couple. Give a couple, take a couple Pause.

Speaker 1

So is your true issue of boxing? Is it because it's too long? Is it because it's not as much action in your face like UFC? Because you compared it to the UFC, what's the big rub?

Speaker 2

Let me see what Charles Davis says. Crawford was eating the bigger man's punches. Wow, I can't do UFC it's like wrestling without a soap opera.

Speaker 2

Okay, so both of them are sweet sciences. I'll answer your question. What is my dig about boxing? It's just the now boxing Boxers, which is, to their credit, understandable. They don't go in there trying to get knockouts, they just go in there trying to win the fight as safe as possible. The last knock knockout artist was deontay wilder to me, and even he got knocked out. Uh, what's up? Uh, random rick review. What's up? Big homie, pro wrestling, ufc and boxing. So pro wrestling is better. Wow, which pro boxing?

Speaker 1

which pro wrestling? You talking about wwe or you talking about japanese wrestling? Because if it's japanese, I agree with you, not wwe what up?

Speaker 2

homie? Um, but yeah, so I understand there's sweet science about boxing. It's just hard to watch, especially when there's a lot of fights like that ufc. You could get head kicked, elbowed, wrestled. There's a whole plethora of things that go on. Dale brown in the building, dale brown in the building bro, are you in germany? I just texted last on, bro.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I just texted you last week too and I'm still waiting for you to text back. Maybe you changed your number and didn't tell me I should have hit you up on the book. Okay, let me see, pete, it is boxing, not fighting. I agree, I think the promoters in boxing has watered, watered down the sport. I agree, these promoters want to protect them. Bruh, I mean 100%, can't disagree with that at all. Can't disagree with that at all. Alright, let's see what Rick R R R R R R, r, r, r, r, r R R, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r, r R R R R R R. That's supposed to be wrestling. I think it's supposed to be wrestling.

Speaker 1

I'm going to say pro wrestling, yeah, pro wrestling at the National Guard Armory on Tuesday nights. It's better than boxing.

Speaker 2

I mean that's true. I mean that's true, Tony Rene, in the building.

Speaker 1

Tony Rene in the building.

Speaker 2

UFC is too bloody to me. All the grappling and wrestling I can't stand it. Boxing is where it's at.

Speaker 1

My wife says the same thing.

Speaker 2

I can't believe I'm in the minority with this, my wife says the same thing.

Speaker 2

So I grew up boxing, so I understand it. But from an entertainment value, unless you're just watching one boxing fight, I think that's my difference. I'll just say that's my difference. Ufc I can watch four or five fights. Boxing I can only watch one, maybe two. But anything after that it just gets boring. And when you have a boring 12, 10 round fight, eight round fight, it's just like bro. Time goes by so slow and UFC is bad. Okay, my Wi-Fi is trash and TLF.

Speaker 2

I didn't get your text. Big dog, you know there's a million, there's a million Browns in the Air Force. I'll be set for the next month's show. All right, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet. So I'm glad you made their save. That's why I asked you. I text you to see if you made their save. And we didn't text back. I said oh Lord, oh Lord. But yeah, hopefully the fam's good, everybody good. We'll definitely catch up. Text me when you can, man. So make sure your number don't change. If not I'll just hit you on the book. Ufc has grown. Men putting their stank feet in. Now, that's true. But too, but too, man. But just like I don't know if any of y'all have done mixed martial arts, it's very difficult. I'm not good with being on my back. I'm like a turtle. You put me on my back, I'm done so it's just a little different, but I just don't it. Can y'all agree with me anything more than one boxing fight? Maybe two? Anything more than that? You can't watch three, four, five, six boxing fights I agree, I concur.

Speaker 1

I agree, I concur, somewhat, somewhat. I'm more of a I don't know how you pronounce it. I think it's Japanese wrestler fan versus WWE. Wwe is just a soap opera.

Speaker 2

Tony, I thought the Crawford fight was. Maybe it was just boring, because the fight before that was boring I was, so I think my anticipation for the fight was there. They started playing all this music and trying to make it a bit spectacle. I'm like, just bring the fight. What was that man?

Speaker 1

I'm like man is this a contest. Yo, I was saying the same thing. They played the first band, yeah, and I was like, okay, yeah, they're building it up. Then they start playing again. I'm like, bro, where is the fighters at man, let's get to it man, tony, you must be a real boxing fan.

Speaker 2

Shout out to you because you must be and to be able to watch. I'm watching all the fights on the card. Wait, oh, you watched, or you're watching, like going back and watching them. I guess you're saying you watched.

Speaker 1

Well, I think she said when she's going to watch all of them when it comes on.

Speaker 2

Okay Now, I agree with that. I was like the fight's not coming until 2 am your time.

Speaker 1

Yeah, East Coast.

Speaker 2

I feel bad for y'all. I'm on the West Coast and I struggle.

Speaker 1

Yeah, my Wendy fell asleep.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's the problem. It's like yo, if you're going to do all this, man like you've got to fight. And I think back to Charles Davis' point the promoters really effed it up. This was the first fight where I knew all the. You know, mr Beast was the promoter for this fight. Yeah, I was like and then it's weird, it's very weird, not weird different, let me be right, it's different. The dude who promoted it was from Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you know, know, that threw me off because I saw riyadh.

Speaker 2

I was telling my wife, I was like yeah, they're in riyadh, but they were in vegas, yeah, well, so riyadh was the promoter or whatever his name was, but they were, he was whatever. I'll just say he forked over the most money and that made it happen. But they also have a deal with netflix. So the next fight is tank davis and luke jake paul. I mean, it's another amateur fight, but whatever.

Speaker 2

Uh, pete, the average person can't fight past three. Hey, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. Usc professionals don't go past that. Uh, they go five rounds. But I respect your point. Uh, come on, man, remember how glass that bum Conor was versus Floyd? Hey, but if Floyd fought Conor in MMA, you would be saying the same thing about Floyd. You'd be saying the same thing. So, yes, conor was never going to beat Floyd. Anybody who thought Conor was going to beat Floyd, I mean, I guess you just don't watch fighting at all. Uh, I'm glad there weren't any glitches on Netflix. Yep, yep, yep, that's what we said, that's what they got that right this time yeah, uh, dale Brown, that part.

Speaker 2

But when the sound went out in the beginning I was like Netflix, better, better. Yeah, I think that dude from Saudi Arabia I wish I could get his name and show him respect. Uh, but he put I uh, but he put I'm sure he put up a good amount of money did you see him sitting in the front row?

Speaker 1

it looked weird. He was just sitting in like this the whole time I mean he was saying what's up to people.

Speaker 2

He seemed like a good dude, like if you saw interviews him, because he was there, the whole card, even the prelims, he was there. Dana white showed up for the main card in the car before that to hold that ring belt and that was it. But uh, he also had the usc no chase. So usc no chase was last night too. It was earlier, so almost yesterday midday I watched some of those. It didn't get the hype that this fight got, which is understandable, but it was a pretty good card.

Speaker 2

I didn't like some of the fighters, but the fights were good. The fights were really good. What's that noise? I don't hear nothing. It's like doo-doo-doo, do, do, do, do. I mean OK, didn't they boo him, or was it? No, no, no, hey, tony, ok, I think that was their fight introductions, wasn't it? The main fight introductions were like they started booing and then they showed him on the screen. So I don't know if they were booing Crawford, because they showed Crawford right before that and then they showed him and it sounds like they just kept it going. But, tony, I thought the same thing. I was like damn, they booing my man. They don't even know his name. This is the first time he's here. He put this sort of thing on for you. So, philly, tony, dale, charles, here's my question to you. If you had a good amount of money, it wasn't going to hurt you. What is the amount of money you would have paid to go watch that fight?

Speaker 1

I would say $100.

Speaker 2

To go watch it live yeah, I'll pay $100. To go watch it live yeah, I'll pay $100. Wow, okay, and money wasn't a thing.

Speaker 1

I would pay $100. That's it, wow.

Speaker 2

So to get in the building it was like $350. That's just to walk in the building. To get in the building it was like $350. That's just to walk in the building. Then to any good seats were easily over $1,200. It's funny how many celebrities were there? I wonder how many actually paid. Triple R said $7. Dang. Have y'all ever watched the UFC or boxing fight live? Have you ever went to one live Ever?

Speaker 1

Not a lot. Boxing, yes, but not UFC.

Speaker 2

Who'd you go see Remember.

Speaker 1

It wasn't anybody like well known.

Speaker 2

It was like a major fight.

Speaker 1

It was lower division or whatever yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

Uh, I've been to one usc fight. That was really good, but I sat in the nosebleeds will never do. It's so quiet in there. Like you know, when you hear it on tv you hear all yo. It was so quiet, uh. If money wasn't a problem, I'm paying $1,200.

Speaker 1

Okay, wow, I am cheap. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2

I paid to go see Floyd and May. Oh wow, I don't even want to ask you how much that is oh yeah, I'm not going to even ask that.

Speaker 2

So I would have paid to go see? Yeah, 100% would have. So, charles, was it worth it paying to go see it live in person or did you end up walking away with there Like man? I can't believe I spent all this money? I think that's how I would feel like I can't believe I spent all this money. Yeah, I've been to live local boxing, okay. Yeah, I've been to a couple of UFCs. I've been to a couple undercard or, excuse me, one UFCc, a couple under in mmas. The mmas are cool, but I think I'm just a fan. But you know, a bunch of yelling, screaming, I think for boxing is not a lot of. It's just like you're waiting and be like, oh good shot.

Speaker 1

Do you guys feel cheated if you paid a lot of money to watch a boxing match, like last night, and nobody gets knocked out? Are you fans of decision or you because, like here's the other thing for UFC? I wish I knew the statistics of how many fights ends in a knockout or submission versus a decision. I would imagine is higher than a boxing match. Somebody get knocked out. So I think that's probably why some people get excited more for UFC because people get knocked out the first 30 seconds, 40 seconds or whatever $2,400 and I was upset because that fight was not great, but the atmosphere was worth it.

Speaker 1

Hey, go ahead and play.

Speaker 2

Play on, play on. But, like you said, the atmosphere is worth it, where I think when I went to the UFC, the fights were cool, but the atmosphere. I was way up there, I was at the top, I could almost touch the top of the damn building. Wow, and that was $250 a ticket. I just happened to be in Vegas and it was going on and found some tickets. Nobody wants to see a decision in anything UFC. Going on and found some tickets, uh, nobody wants to see a decision in anything UFC. I'm not too mad if it's a good fight, if it's this decision.

Speaker 2

So I said, if Canelo didn't knock out Bud, he was, hey, tony, oh wait, 100%, 100%. I did not think Canelo was gonna win a decision. And you know what's funny, they put up the bet odds and, uh, if it was going to decision, I think bud was favored like, or you would have got like, 360. So every hundred dollars you bet, you would have got 360 bet or netted 360. Uh, so pretty good odds. I should have bet it, god dang it. But should have, would have, could have, should have, would have, could have. But shout out to bud, shout out to crawford uh, I'm still a UFC fan. I don't know when the next next UFC card is, but I'll let y'all know so y'all can try again. I mean, you do have to pay for it. It's on pay-per-view, so you do have to pay for it. But if you don't want to pay for it, I understand. I definitely understand.

Speaker 1

But there you go. I think the biggest winners out of this is Netflix and everything. Yeah, I mean just the buzz behind it. It's like I've heard about this fight all weekend long. So that says a lot to bring people together to be able to watch.

Speaker 2

Charles said 2,400 include the fight hotel an entire week in employment money. Yeah, okay, All right.

Speaker 1

That makes sense. You're out there in the country, you come back to a boxing match.

Boxing vs. UFC Entertainment Value

Speaker 2

Yeah, 2,400 Vegasans, now 2,400. That's not bad. In Vegas too. That's not bad. During fight weekend, that's not bad. You know what? Shout out to the people who live in Vegas. If you had an Airbnb in Vegas during that time, you're the real winner. You cashed it. You should have cashed it Anyway. Alright, you ready to move on?

Speaker 1

Yeah, anyway, all right, ready to move on? Yeah, you know, I noticed. If everyone in the audience or in the chat noticed, we both have something we normally didn't have about a month or two ago. That's a beard. Yes, you may ask yourself why are these guys wearing beards reasons? But most folks seem to think that beards on a man is, you know, sexy or professional, but not in the military.

Speaker 1

If you haven't been under a rock, you've noticed that there was a memo put out by the Secretary of War, peter Hexeth, about his stance on beards across the DOD. His stance on beards across the DOD. Making a long story short, yes, it is. If you have a beard, that ship is starting to sail away. Gone are the days where you could just get a shaving waiver and have it for years with no problem. Now, according to the memo, those who do have a shaving waiver if after a year you still have one, you stand the threat of being pushed out of the military. So interested to hear your thoughts. We have been fighting for beards for years and now we have seen it starting to go backward and frankly, it sounds like a lot of folks mostly people with beards are not happy with it. Some folks actually are threatened to get out of the military because they can't have a beard. Thoughts.

Speaker 2

If you didn't know, this is a surprise to anybody. You give up some rights being in the military. If we go to war, you go to war. If we don't go to war, you don't go to war. Those are my thoughts behind it.

Speaker 2

So, although this has changed and nobody likes changing, and although I will agree with anybody who has beards, you have been going through the gamut of change for the probably the last four years, maybe longer, six years of change, maybe longer than that, maybe eight years of beards, beards, beards, beards. So it has now changed. It has now changed. If you don't like it, it sucks, but, like we all say, this is your time to be a leader in the military.

Speaker 2

It's easy to be a leader when you're just sparking out orders and telling people what to do, and you know telling people if you don't want to deploy, you shouldn't be in the military. But as soon as your turn comes up to deploy, you want to argue about it. So this is your chance to be a leader. You might not like it, you might not love it, but this is what it is. It's your chance to use your platform as being a leader and spread the word that, whatever the policy says to abide by it. I'll go to the questions and I'll let you go. My question does this apply to religious waivers? I'll let Philly take that.

Speaker 1

Not yet, but it's heading in that direction. I've heard from some credible sources that that's next.

Speaker 2

Triple R said we couldn't have them when I was in because they said it could. You couldn't seal your gas mask. Oh yeah, figure depends on the. I don't know that word.

Speaker 1

Area of operation.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, area of operation, oh okay Area of operation, but on the regular. As long as they don't, they aren't raggedy, go ahead. That's my opinion behind it so quickly.

Speaker 1

I want to address the piece that we brought up about beards not having a beard because it doesn't seal your mask. That's not necessarily true. Now my question is this Is there anyone we can say that actually was in a deployed or contingency or war environment where they were gassed and they had a beard and they used a mask and it didn't affect them? I don't know of any. So when we say people, there were people online testing it and say, oh, I got a seal, it's not true, it's a lie. I don't know if I want to test that theory, but there's a possibility it could be true. I do agree with you.

Speaker 1

I think you make a choice when you join the military.

Speaker 1

Whether or not Rick says the old mastic, it was probably distilled anyways, that's true, but you make a choice joining the military.

Speaker 1

There are certain things you've got to give up and I felt like the right was on the wall anyway to one side, allowing beards, religious accommodations and such, to the point where it's like you see all different types and shapes of beards. Now I am not saying I don't think beards are professional, but it really don't matter. What I think what really matters is is how the military perceives it, and the military, according to the memo, are not a fan of military members having beards, and so therefore, they're not saying you can't have a waiver, but if you're on it for more than a year, you stand a chance of being separated. I personally think it's a good idea, I'm all for it, and this is coming from someone who had a shaving waiver up to when I was a master sergeant. So, pete, just put up on the screen, if you guys can see it, the memo signed by the Secretary of War, peter Hexeth, about beards. This has been circulating all around the internet and the social media.

Speaker 2

It says effective immediately. I missed that part. Yeah, effective immediately. Military medical officers will provide a written recommendation concerning a shaving waiver to commanders. Who is the final approving authority? So the commander is still the final approving authority. Service members with an approved shaving waiver will participate in the medical treatment plan. That's like the old school one, when I got my shaving waiver. Uh, unit commanders will institute separating separation of service members who require a shaving waiver for more in the year. That is crazy. Putting that on unit commanders is kind of crazy why not?

Speaker 1

that's what it's supposed to do anyway.

Speaker 2

I mean, I guess, if they're the authority, the approval authority, the religious confirmation, I agree.

Speaker 1

I agree 100%. That was the problem. If you ask, hold on pause, rick says if you want to go get a shot for your country, grow an effing beard. This is a waste of resources argument, but I agree, I give you one too. I don't really see a big issue out of it. I really don't. And for folks who get to a point where, all right, this is going to be a delicate conversation.

Speaker 2

Yes, very.

Speaker 1

I've heard some comments from folks that said it's targeting African Americans. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. It affects mostly African Americans because the majority of the shaving waivers are from African Americans, but, as we all know, there are other races that have shaving waivers as well, so it affects everybody. It's just, unfortunately, in this case, we are the majority. I think if you're allowing this to affect your thoughts. As far as staying in the military, whether you should stay or you should go hey, I don't blame you, like. If this isn't for you, then yeah, maybe you should transition out. I wish you didn't have to, but this is the way of the world now when it comes to the military and I don't think it's going to change.

Speaker 2

Yeah, back to my point about being a leader. Like, everybody wants to be a leader, but this is your chance now to follow the orders of the officers appointed over you. Even though they're not military officers, they're still appointed over you. Okay, salute, smart. Do what you're told to do until it's your time to get out, and you know, what If somebody came to me today and be like hey, you're still in the military, you need to shave your beard. I'll shave mine tomorrow.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

No problem.

Speaker 1

If I'm going in uniform, I'll shave it.

Speaker 2

No, even if I'm not, if my commander called me right now and was like hey, you need to shave your beard. Cool, even though I'm on leave, but cool.

Speaker 2

No problem, I don't have no problem, it does not affect me that big at all. And you know what's funny I'm not gonna say. I heard some crazy comments out there about how this is gonna affect how they look and affect their mental health, affect all this other stuff. Like bro, like cool, I'm cool with it. Uh-oh, pete, come on and be my shirt. You're sounding astute. Oh, thank you. But yeah, man, it's just like, if you don't like it, wait for your time to get out and then go join somewhere else. But back to what me and Philly were talking about.

Speaker 2

I remember back in 1990 something. I was trying to work for McDonald's and I had a goatee, a nice little goatee, and they said if you want to work here, you have to shave your goatee. I said I was no medical waiver, no religious accommodations, that was it. I showed up the next day, didn't shave my goatee. They were like hey, don't come back tomorrow with a goatee, my goatee. They were like hey, don't come back tomorrow with a goatee. So I never went back.

Speaker 2

Now you're in the military, so you can't just quit, right? You sign a contract. In that contract it's somehow stated I'm paraphrasing basically you're going to do what we tell you to do. It's no different. Philly can talk about this. I could talk about this when I went to my first deployment. I came back four months later and said hey, somebody just tapped out of a deployment. You got to go. You're the only one that we can send. What do you want me to say? And I never said cool, but when I come back, can I get PCS orders to where I want to go? Or cool, when I come back, can I get this job that you all just put me in? Can I have my job back? It's not a transactional relationship with you and the military.

Speaker 2

I like that. It's a relationship where they pay you money. You do your job. As long as you give me my paycheck on the 1st and 15th, I'll do what you tell me to do. That's the only transaction. Good point.

Speaker 1

Man, I don't know if I could follow that one Shoot. You nailed it. You nailed that man.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it sucks because we all been there. We all been there. You know what I remember? Y'all effing punk asses gave us a vehicle inspection when I was at Yokota. I got my very first car and we were going and some NCO just got up his butt that he wanted to do a vehicle inspection. It wasn't you. You don't remember who it is. If I told you, you probably don't remember who Jeffrey Dawsey, ballhead, dude, canine, handler Dawsey. Anyway, he decided to do a vehicle inspection on our personal vehicle, not GOVs, our personal. We're 18, with 1800s.

Speaker 1

I can't.

Speaker 2

Everybody E5 and below, or I think it was E4 and below that had a car got inspected. So we going through the car. Now some of it was good. He told us how to look for our oil and stuff like that. He did the little tire pressure thing. So my tire pressure was low on one of my, one of my tires. He said you need to get air in this tire. Don't be driving without getting air in this tire.

Speaker 2

Came back after our break. He did it again same air. So he says so now, if you put air in your tire which I lied and said I did he said that you need to get your tire replaced because it's not working properly before you drive again. Of course I didn't do. It came back next day he said you get your tire replaced. I said, yep, of course you could look at it, tell it's the same tire. He gave me paperwork. He gave me paperwork. He gave me paperwork. You lied to him. Was I pissed? Yes, was I upset? Yes, am I still upset? 100%. But you go through it. Look, look, look. Do you hear it? What the F? I'm a vehicle inspector.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, pretty crazy. All right, let's see what. Charles Davidson, can you read this one?

Speaker 1

I wonder, if a different administration comes in after our current, will they allow anyone separated back in Like this one? Was it done for people who refused the COVID vaccines? In other words, what Charles is saying if a different administration gets in power, would they allow people, if they got transitioned out for shaving waivers, be brought back on active duty with, like those folks who didn't take the COVID vaccine? Actually, that's a great point. I actually like that. So I would tell folks today, like those who right now have a shaving waiver and those who have a religious accommodation unfortunately, it appears that your day is a number For the next three years there has been a. It's no surprise what's going on, no surprise. And all of these petitions and stuff you guys are doing is not going to work. They are dead set in their thinking that the military prior to them getting in office was weak and tired and woke, and so now they already said it the focus is back on a war fighting force, and this is part of it. Focuses back on a war fighting force, and this is part of it.

Speaker 1

Only thing I would say is I empathize with folks with shaving waivers because they were given a carrot. It's almost like have a dangling the carrot in front of them or like that commercial. Haha, you thought you almost got it. That's what it felt like, because the more they added, the more they added more leniency for shaving waivers and religious accommodations to, I think, charles point. That's what really made it worse, because you got some people with, like huge beards, religious accommodations. Then you have some folks with a shaving wafer, with a beard, and they're like well, okay, okay, why can't I grow that one, which, in effect, really it should be?

Speaker 1

If you're in the military, there's a piece that you have to give up in order to join this institution. And remember, no one made you. You decided for yourself. So when you made that decision and they say you can't have a beard, it is what it is Now. I know there's some medical issues behind it. Trust me, I had them for years, even to this very day. When I don't shave, I get bumps on my face, but it doesn't mean I need a shaving waiver for my whole time I'm in. Some people believe that you can't get better or you can't learn how to shave. I disagree with that personally, because I want them. Anyway, rick says them damn beers going to hit a tripwire, son, is that what you want?

Speaker 2

I mean, I agree, I mean Triple R, I agree with you, bro, like there are other things we could talk about, but this is what they want to do. Like I would have more sympathy if this was like a permanent thing, like we instituted neck tattoos. If they came back and said nobody can have neck tattoos, well, okay, some people have to be grandfathered in because that's a permanent change that you made when the regulation allowed you to make it. So if it's a permanent thing, I get, this is hair. You go get your hair cut once a week, once every two weeks, once a month, depending on how your hair grows. You go get your hair cut and that haircut standard, although has changed with verbiage, has not changed that much.

Speaker 2

But people still push the dang thing, they still push the boundaries. So I mean you could try if you want, but I have got paperwork for not shaving going to work and be like are you on a shaving wave or no? I'm not. You forget shave today. Yep, either go shave or you're getting paperwork. It's that simple. It was really that simple. It sucked, it really sucked, and this was dang almost 20 years ago. So it really sucked, but that's what it was. If we hitting tripwires. We can try that.

Speaker 2

That's true, triple r, you are kind of dating yourself with tripwires, but I get your point, I get your point, I get your point, I get your point so to put a bow on this, hey, just just prepare yourself.

Speaker 1

You have a choice. If you want to keep your beard, you might have to make a decision whether you stay or go.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Military Beard Regulations Debate

Speaker 1

And then this is not a transition to a point, because I know we got about 15 minutes left I kind of want to get to the NFL, yeah. So I will do a wave top on this one. So I know everyone's still following heavily what happened to Charlie Kirk earlier this week, and we did. We touched on this a little bit on our last show. The only thing I want to say about this this is like come on, human beings, can we, can we get ourselves together?

Speaker 1

Man, like there may have been some things he said that a lot of people don't agree with, but at the same time, he did not deserve what he got. He didn't deserve to die. If you want to talk about the man, you can say you don't agree with what he believed in, but to make fun of the man dying, that's a little bit. Come on, man, that's not right. I would say let's all mourn the loss of a person who died at the hands of gun violence once again, and then let's go from there, get a respect to his family man, and I know there was some folks that compared him to other people that may have died Unfortunately. Yeah, there may be some truth to that, but let's just let's just pause for a minute again and remember this person died for what he believed in, whether you believed in the stuff he said or not, and this is a perfect opportunity for DOD service personnel, whether you're military or civilian. I know there's a such thing as freedom of speech, but we have limits when we're in uniform and you have to tread carefully when you bring those up.

NFL Week Two Predictions

Speaker 1

There was a story about a senior master sergeant I believe he's here. He's a drill instructor who is getting a lot of attention to himself for what he said on social media. And you got to remember, man, when you're in uniform, you got to be careful what you say. And, frankly, going back to what I just said, regardless of what you think about the man, he did not deserve to die. I'll just leave that there because I'm beating a dead horse. Let's just be better, y'all, Please.

Speaker 2

Okay, anything that comes from unpopular conversation or comments from us or guess, represent DOD of the Armed Forces as a whole. All right, yeah, no, 100%, true, 100%, true. Yeah, I couldn't set it better myself.

Speaker 1

Let's be better y'all, yeah, now on to the NFL. We got about 15 minutes left before this is week two of the NFL season. What's up, brother? Week two of the NFL season is starting. Let's get your picks. Let's start off with our early games Jacksonville, cincinnati who you?

Speaker 2

got. I don't know, I really don't. Cincinnati looks so bad. Jacksonville looks actually decent. I don't know. I will say touchdown for Jamar Chase. I will say over 50 yards for Jamar Chase, a thousand percent. If you want to put your bets in the next 10 minutes, I'm not saying give you all financial advice. I'm not a bet professional. I'm just saying Jamar Chase, they're going to force feed him the ball. Jacksonville has struggled against the past last week. Travis Hunter will probably be guarding Jamar Chase for most of the game or for some of the game. I'll say, uh, not going to be good, not going to be good. Oh yeah, all right, go ahead. We'll talk about this in a second too.

Speaker 1

I'll say Cincinnati over Jacksonville. Yeah, cincinnati didn't look good, but they got their't look good, but they got their first win. I think they've got their first win at week one for years and it's Joe Burrow and, frankly, jacksonville still has a lot to prove. So I got Cincinnati plus. They're at home. Next Dallas and New York. Dallas Playing in Dallas. Yeah, dallas, that's easy. I hope New York wins.

Speaker 2

I don't think Russell's going to make it all the game. I think he's going to get pulled out.

Speaker 1

I don't either I don't, either. They're already calling for him to get yanked. I agree, okay, chicago, detroit, detroit's at home.

Speaker 2

Chicago, detroit, detroit will have a good comeback win.

Speaker 1

Hmm, I agree with that Chicago is trash, they still got a lot to learn, los Angeles Rams and Tennessee, tennessee at home. New England, miami, miami at home.

Speaker 2

Don't know. Miami looks so trash. Miami looks trash. New England lost. They didn't look that good, don't know at all. And I heard Tua was bitched. I didn't hear that. Yeah, I saw a report all and I heard two of us bitched.

Speaker 1

I didn't hear that. Yeah, I saw a report of two is getting benched for this one. For who? I can't remember how to look it up. All right, go ahead, I'm gonna go with new england. I think miami's in turmoil man yeah, I think.

Speaker 2

Another, another bet. I think they're gonna force feed tyreek hill the ball yeah, they're going to force-feed Tyreek Hill the ball.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they're going to have to keep him happy.

Speaker 2

He already talking about trying to get traded For real Early games. White no Jennings is out, or early morning reports expect he should play Ruled out for Sunday. So let's see Worthy is out, darren Waller is out. Shipley Will Shipley, your backup running back, is out.

Speaker 1

Darren Waller is out. Shipley Will Shipley. Your backup running back is out, we don't care.

Speaker 2

Goddard's out. Goddard's out, we don't care, he's always out. Okay, purdy's out. Joey Porter for Pittsburgh is out. Kittle's out. There you go. I don't see anything about Tua.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's not injured, he is being benched.

Speaker 2

Okay, let me go to the game cast. Let me see. Tua Tomalua perfect record against the Patriots. Tua Tomalua has never lost to the starting quarterback. He's also never been. No, he's playing. He's playing Okay, yep. He said they say San's playing Okay, yep.

Speaker 1

San Francisco, new Orleans, new Orleans at home.

Speaker 2

Man. San Francisco has too many injuries.

Speaker 1

I don't know. No, they're not.

Speaker 2

They got injuries, but they're still better than the Saints CMC is playing, so CMC is going to have 300 yards.

Speaker 1

So you're taking what New Orleans?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm still taking New Orleansleans. If you give me points, I'll take new orleans straight up, probably the 49ers all right, I got the 49ers over the new orleans.

Speaker 1

Buffalo, new york, new york at home easy buffalo seattle at pittsburgh, pittsburgh at home don't know, real good game.

Speaker 2

Uh, I think the quarterback's going to matter and Aaron Rodgers looked really good, so I'll ride the Aaron Rodgers coattail for another week. I think, I'm going to take Pittsburgh DK Metcalf anytime touchdown, book it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, pittsburgh, okay, cleveland, Baltimore, baltimore, at home.

Speaker 2

Baltimore.

Speaker 1

Baltimore, denver, indianapolis, indianapolis at home.

Speaker 2

This is a tough one.

Speaker 1

Indianapolis looks good, but I will take Denver, because I'm not sold on Daniel Jones, so I will take Denver, carolina or Arizona.

Speaker 2

Arizona, at home, carolina, oh Arizona, yeah.

Speaker 1

I would agree Arizona what y'all say I bet you see anything about the Falcons. Oh, arizona, yeah, I would agree, arizona, what y'all say.

Speaker 2

I bet you see anything about the Falcons because they're irrelevant.

Speaker 1

Speaking of, which wasn't the Falcons? No, the Falcons wasn't on primetime last week, it was the early game. Okay gotcha, all right, we'll skip this one and come back to that one Atlanta, minnesota, minnesota at home.

Speaker 2

Atlanta.

Speaker 1

Smoking crack. Okay, you smoking crack.

Speaker 2

Pause.

Speaker 1

Definitely.

Speaker 2

Minnesota, not even close Denver. Thank you, tony. Okay, we'll see All right, okay, and now?

Speaker 1

drum roll, please, you got the biggest game of the week, kansas City. Drum roll please. You got the biggest game of the week, kansas City, probably Philadelphia. Your 2025 NFL champions, philadelphia Eagles versus the accursed Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 2

Kansas City Kansas City by a touchdown.

Speaker 1

Okay, tell us why.

Speaker 2

I think they're going to be. They lost a bad game last week to the Chargers, who are pretty good but not the best. They're going to win this week, by the way. But Kansas City will have a comeback, even though they have injuries worthy. They will have a comeback, thomas White, of course. Of course, for birds. Tony Bostic Facts Big crack, booty crack Dang. All right, go ahead.

Speaker 1

So what you said? No, I'm pooping Pee on that poop Exactly. Wow, what you said in all respect made no sense. I know, let me say this what you said in all respect made no sense.

Speaker 2

I trust KC coming back and winning more than I trust the Eagles winning. I think go ahead. I'll leave it at that. Go ahead.

Speaker 1

I'll give you time. Here's the reason why what you said I'm not jiving with. Got it Worthy. You made a good point there. I would agree with you there. Two I would agree that Chiefs lost a tough game last week, and when was the last time they were 0-2 in Mahomes' era. So I would give you that one. I would also give you that the Chiefs are probably pretty upset right now because people are writing them off. So it looks like a trap game for the Eagles. However, despite the injuries to Philly and Kansas City Tony says Philly too much they exposed the Chiefs. It's time to retool the whole line. I agree, we got Jalen Carter back. Y'all trusted Casey when they got stomped too. Agree, we got Jalen Carter back. The biggest issue we have to worry about is our cornerback, whoever's on the other side of Quinn Young-Mitchell. I am worried, but I don't think they're going to be able to stop our offense. They're going to find a way to get AJ to ball. They're going to have to, I would say Eagles by a touchdown.

Speaker 2

I say KC by a touchdown. I say KC by a touchdown and they're playing in KC.

Speaker 1

I don't give two, okay, all right, I don't care. They're starting 0-2 this year, all right, hey, remember all this smoke.

Speaker 2

Remember all this smoke on Monday, tuesday, whenever we get back home. Remember all this smoke, dang it Tuesday whenever we get back on. Remember all this smoke, dang it. Eagles by a touchdown. Who's the Sunday night game Sunday?

Speaker 1

night game. Yes, the Falcons in Minnesota. Two games on Monday night. You got Tampa Bay and Houston.

Speaker 2

Los Angeles and the Raiders Actually, I don't know, are they playing in Tampa?

Speaker 1

Bay, tampa Bay. They're playing in Houston. Oh, I don't know. Are they playing in?

Speaker 2

Tampa Bay, oh, Tampa Bay. They're playing in Houston oh.

Speaker 1

I don't know man, tampa Bay Heck. No, that's easy Tampa.

Speaker 2

Bay, okay, and then Chargers over the Raiders.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Chargers over the Raiders? Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2

All right, we'll see when we get back Real quick. Wnba, I'll give you all 30 seconds. Well, I got three minutes, so I'll give you all two. Wnba, this is your time to shine If you want money. The playoffs start today. Nobody's going to watch it because football's on, so dumb is to start the playoffs during the NFL week two season. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. This is why the WNBA won't make no money. Y'all can't do from the top. Top. Started on Monday. Started on Tuesday.

Speaker 1

Fatality the playoffs don't matter there, but to start game one on a Sunday?

Speaker 2

I think they start at 10 o'clock too. Oh man, the playoffs don't matter there. But to start game one on a Sunday? No, I think they start at 10 o'clock too. Oh man, stupid, stupid. Stupid I'm off my rant. That's my WB rant.

Speaker 1

Oh man, y'all it's not the players. It's not the players.

Speaker 2

It's not the players, it's the top leadership. Don't start during week two of the NFL season, when people are betting on games. People are watching games, people are caring about their team. Every single team in the NFL is playing this week. What is you doing, stupid? And it's game one of the playoffs. Nobody cares about game one of the WNBA. I bet you couldn't tell me four teams that are playing each other. I bet you couldn't. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. And I cheer for y'all. I want y'all to go better, but, god dog, stop being stupid. He needs some milk. Any last thoughts? Oh, ain't nothing.

Speaker 1

I can't say nothing to follow that one man. Hey, appreciate y'all watching. We'll see y'all again soon. Maybe we'll do some pull. Yes, exactly. Pull the plug. Exactly. I ain't got nothing to say. I can't follow that one. Go birds, this is where you're at champ. Go birds baby, we're out exactly. I ain't got nothing to say. I can't follow that one. Go birds, this is where you at shit. Go birds baby we out.

Speaker 2

Good luck this week he needs some milk. Steven A Pete, it's crazy. Alright, triple R, we'll holla at you. Peace, peace, peace, peace.