When Promotion Misses Hurt, War isn't Call of Duty

Promotions, pride, and the gut-punch of a near miss—this one goes straight to the heart of military life. We kick off by celebrating new Senior Master Sergeants, then lean into a raw, unfiltered talk with those who didn’t make it: how long to vent, when to double down, and when to call it. The chat lights up with real numbers, real timelines, and the most honest take of all—“it’s impossible to promote a quitter,” but grinding without clarity breaks people too.

That’s where the big swing comes in. We unpack why feedback feels empty—strats shrouded in mystery, record reviews that contradict each other, and board guidance that shifts year to year. Then we ask the question more leaders need to face: could AI make promotions more fair? We explore anonymized scoring, objective criteria, and a live experiment to compare a tuned model’s output with human board results. Not to replace leaders, but to force transparency, reduce bias, and deliver feedback you can use next year—specific, repeatable, and honest.

Tension turns to accountability as we react to viral soldier videos about the Middle East. Veterans in the chat remember mortar alarms and quiet fear, and we draw a firm line on standards: war isn’t content. Uniformed conduct online matters, especially when lives are on the line. We push for education backed by consequences, the kind that builds a culture where young troops understand why discipline and humility aren’t optional.

We wrap with a lighter detour—guessing the NFL’s biggest base salaries—to show how incentives drive behavior in any system. Then we set the hook for next week’s open mic: bring your promotion stories, your board scores, and your ideas. We’re building the AI test and want you in the loop.

If this resonates, subscribe, share it with a teammate, and leave a review. Your stories shape the next show—and might help fix a system too many of us have learned to fear.

Transcript

Tech Glitches & Warm-Up Banter

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Perfect.

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Yep.

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Shoot, man. Technology. Gotta love technology. First of all, let me address something in the in the chat. Vinny speeds, I love your energy. Keep bringing it. Stay with it. Stay with it. I love it. I love it. I love it. If you're gonna be a hater, be a hater. I I will support your haterism for sure. You're gonna be a hater, be a hater. Hey, if that's who you are, that's who you are. You know, I support it. I support it. I definitely support it. Uh Mo Mon Moses 1092. It was some AI looking stuff. Yo, AIRU is the world. If you ain't up on AI, AI is gonna take over you. So I love your energy too. Uh, I don't know how to pronounce your name. Something fat Armrah, Armoray, Armor. Uh, what up? All right, there we go. Thanks, bro. Loud and clear. I hear y'all. Y'all can hear me. Man, this is freaking crazy. I love technology. I got I got to love technology. Anyway, over to you.

Hosts, Shoutouts & Roll Call

SPEAKER_04 2:43

Well, happy Sunday, everyone. For some of you folks is in Texas, a rainy Sunday, but wherever you may at, maybe sunny Arizona or wherever you at. Feel free to drop in the comments where you're listening or watching that. Peace, human beings, is your boy, Philly DC, back with another episode of Unpopular Celebrities. I am one of your co-hosts. You have Pete to the right, who is let's give, you know, let's give a little shout-out to Pete. You know what I'm saying? This dude has engineered 99.9% of every show we have done. And trust me, I've done it a couple of times. Maybe you can count on one, two, three, four, five fingers. And it is not easy, especially when the internet is not working. North Carolina at the crib, North Carolina, throw your t-shirts up like a helicopter, right? I think that's y'all still listening to Pete Pablo out there and see. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, anyway, so you got Pete, you got the lovely Jessica Gene Harris in North Carolina at the crib. You got the lovely Jessica Player, who may be joining us a little bit later. And then you have Del Brown out there in Kaiser Slaughter, Germany, Gutentag. We are your four reform like Voltron, like Wu-Tang clan. We are your umpoplesses, brothers. Peace, peace. Chris Jones in the house, I owe you some information too. We are your um popular celebrities, Chris.

SPEAKER_05 4:12

You from North Carolina, like originally? Like, tell me what part. Not that I'm from North Carolina, but just want to know, just interested, the different parts of North Carolina. Anyway, I bet I had some struggles this morning. My mouse died, so I have that plugged in right now. My keyboard's on barely its last leg, so I had to plug that in. So I got like 12 things plugged in right now, and then of course the technology issues, man. We all over the place. Oh, Chapel Hill. So I gotta ask, are you a Duke fan or UNC fan? U and C just took a fat L yesterday to Duke. We beat them the first time, but they skull drug us the second time. Do you use those terms? Skull drug? What? Skull drug. Like when you get the heck is that you get your skull drug on the ground, you get the brakes beat off you.

SPEAKER_04 5:04

No, I like BTA Beltass better.

Senior Master Sergeant Promotions Announced

SPEAKER_05 5:08

Okay. Okay, okay. Uh, anyway, so we got a live show for y'all. We're gonna uh try to stay a little bit more on a schedule. Uh, for one, when we come on live, for two, what we talk about, because a lot of people come on here and be like, what y'all talking about? So hopefully the thumbnail, if you see it or whatever, will give you a little bit more insight. Uh, the YouTube thing still ain't working, so I had to figure it out. That's step number seven on my list of things to do. So, got a lot of things that we need to figure that out. Uh, today I think it was just the technology, just the stream labs that wasn't cooperating. It's always something. Washing tar heels for life for sure. Tar heels, tar, heels. All right, anyway, that's my rant about where we're at. Uh, do you want to go on the first topic?

SPEAKER_04 6:07

Because it's kind of your topic, so what is the uh promotion, promote or retire?

SPEAKER_05 6:13

No, no, no, no. The war dude.

SPEAKER_04 6:15

No, that's not till later, man.

SPEAKER_05 6:17

Oh, okay. Early, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

We'll we'll cover that later on.

SPEAKER_05 6:20

That's the headliner. Oh, okay. Then yeah, we can talk about the other one.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

Let's first let's give credit where credit is due. Give out the flowers. Shout out to all the brand new senior master sergeants in the Air Force. Shout out to y'all, y'all have reached the top 2% of the United States Air Force E8 Senior Master Sergeant Gang Stand Up. If you one of those people that got promoted and you're happy to show it, drop it in the chat. Your line number. Drop it in the chat, your line number. And if you're feeling froggy, drop it in our DMs, some Cash App money from your new CMS Sergeant Stripes. Don't even worry about paying it to the top three. Give it to us so we can continue doing our shows. Compete, still pay for stuff. You know what I'm saying? But anyway, one of the first topics we want to talk about today is promote or retire. So, just like we have folks who just got promoted, unfortunately, there are some folks who did not get promoted to senior master sergeants. I don't say that to Jess, I don't say that to Jess because I was in that same boat too, man. I'm sure Pete was as well. But we want to talk to you guys out there. 616, who is that? Gene Harrison, first sergeant, extraordinaire. So, what do they call you? Senior First Sergeant? Is that it? Lodge. Senior Diamond, what is that?

SPEAKER_05 7:49

Uh oh shit, shit, shit. It's just uh senior shirt.

Promote Or Retire: The Dilemma

SPEAKER_04 7:53

Senior shirt, senior shirt. Ah, senior shirt. Well, congratulations to you, my brother, and the phenomenal story you have. I'm sure you're gonna continue to do that and stuff. Freddie King K, what's more? What's going on, brothers? Good morning. Okay, I digress. So let's talk to the folks who didn't get promoted. So, my man P had a great conversation with one of his friends. Unfortunately, they did not make senior master sergeant, and it begs the question: should you promote, continue pushing, or retire? There's always that challenge of why should you stay longer? Is it worth the challenge and the time you put in to t to not test it, but to the board? Freddie Kincaid, one, two, four, six. Congratulations, my brother. You get one, too. You get one, too. Let's see. Justin says, Yep, I missed it by 15 and a half points. My first go. Not bad at all. Not mad at all. Plenty to work on. Much love to all who got picked up. That's what I'm talking about. Positivity, my brother. Positivity. But anyway, real quick, let me say this and I'll pass it on to you. You could kind of expand on your conversation. You have folks who get so close, and it's just like any career field, whether it's in the military and the civilian sector, you want your hard work to pay off and get promoted. But as we all know, there's so many things that come behind getting selected. How many people in your career field are eligible? Whether you get the stratification, did you have any awards? There's so many different things. What is the flavor of the month for the board? So many intangibles. So for some people, it can be daunting. So then you have to make that decision. Do you keep going or stop? I'll pause there.

SPEAKER_05 9:43

Yeah, so I think way to tee that thing up. Uh, I had a conversation with a good friend, but I haven't talked to this dude in man, probably like at least seven, eight months. Uh, and all of a sudden, you know, he knew I retired, so hit me up out the blue, and uh, you know, small, small talk at first, what up? And you know what? I'll be honest, I forgot all about senior mass star in promotion, especially when he called. That was the last thing on my mind. So then he was like, Hey, what went into your decision about retirement? So I tell you, and I tell everybody else, it was mainly two things. I wasn't promoting and I wasn't PCSing. The two things I want to do, so it's like, why stay in? Uh, blessings to anyone who may not have made it, but it's impossible to promote a quitter. Keep pushing. Okay, okay. Scary Chris, shout out to you. Shots fire, kind of, but very true. Uh, but my thing was like, I'm not promoting, and even if I do promote, I was at 22 years. Say I put on at 23 to get paid the higher three, I would have to stay till what 26. So that's if I put on at 23, you know, if I would have put on 24, that's true. I wouldn't gonna make the the higher tenure. So I said, you know, what's the point? So that's kind of where I was at uh with everything. So we had a good little, let me put down a little bit. We had a good little conversation, and uh, you know, I basically put it to him like that, and y'all could tell me if it's right, wrong, or different. Uh, there comes a point where you just like Chris said, I'll just say you just quit. He's like, you know, like if these are the two things I want to do and they're not gonna happen, what's the point of staying? Uh, he kind of had some the same re the same feelings, but I will say it's a little bit easier to have those feelings when I found out he didn't make senior. Then it's like, okay, this is all making sense now. The day you find out you don't make senior, because I will say, and you've been there as well, and anybody who's missed rank has been there, and and anybody who can't admit admit this, I think you're just lying. But if when people make it and you don't, you either look at them and be like, How the hell did they make it? Man, they deserve to make it, or it's just like I don't even know that person. That's usually the three feelings. Pause, tell me if I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Nah, that's true. It's I think it's natural, not only in promotion, anything in every walk of life. If you see somebody was able to get maybe the pair of Jordans that you wanted to get, and you missed out on standing out in line, you'd be like, yo, how come they got it and I did? They don't even look as fresh as I do. You know, I mean, they busted, they they they clothes and gear or drip is whack. Why couldn't I have it? So when it comes to promotion, especially when you know the person or you know an idea of their records, and you say, How in the duck did they get it? and I didn't. But I think there's different stages, I forgot what they call it in counseling, but there's a stage, there's a stage where you come to acceptance, you're right. At first it's denial, like you can't believe that it did that it happened, and then you eventually accept. So, shout out to those people out there who even though it's frustrating for them, they get the flowers where it's deserving.

SPEAKER_05 13:06

So I told so when we were talking, and this is where the conversation got real. Uh I told him, if you're not upset, you need just go ahead and leave. Because you should be upset, you really should be upset. And he's like, No, I'm not upset. And I was the stages of grievance. Look at Freddie Kincaid with his uh uh counselor hat on. Uh and I told him, like, yeah, well, you should be upset, and you should look at people like how the fuck did this dirt bag get it? Okay, because I think that's natural, I think that's fine, and that's natural. And anybody who, my opinion, anybody who talked you out of those feelings, I I want to say they're not even a good friend. I I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

Oh, I don't know. From the UK, Charles. Charles Dennis, what you doing in the UK, bro? Dang, what you doing in there, mate? What you doing, what you doing in the UK, governor?

SPEAKER_05 14:04

Good thing he ain't working for the CIA. Yeah, governor. Jesus. Uh, but that's how I feel. Like, you those feelings are fine, and you should be upset about those feelings, or should be upset.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

I don't know. I don't I wouldn't say I think saying they're not a good friend is a bit harsh, you know.

Processing Disappointment & Vent Timelines

SPEAKER_05 14:23

I mean, personally, they're just trying to talk to you about feelings that they have that they're not having anymore. But everybody has had these feelings, and I think I feel like I'm just the one that could tell you, like, hey, like, you should be upset, you should be pissed off, maybe mad at yourself, maybe mad at the system, maybe mad at your supervisor. There's levels you could be mad at, maybe it's percentage of each one. But you should be upset if you're just like, I don't care, you're just saying that now to save face, but if you're not upset, you should be. What's the timeline to vent or have it? That's a great question by Chris. Great question. Charles Davis said he's uh PCS to Milton Hall, so uh good thing that's not uh secret information because we just shared it. Uh, what are the timelines to vent and have those feels? So, Chris, I will pose that question back to you. I think in the instructor world, we call that relay or reverse reverse. Throw that right back to you. What do you think? Because I have mine, and I want to know what the rest of the chat thinks about that as well. Uh, Bradley McCoy said, Yep, good time to reflect on how to get there. I was always pissed. Thank you, McCoy, for being 100. Oh shit. What up, Ferrar? Uh, I wasn't always upset about promoting. If I didn't put in the effort, then I don't expect to be rewarded. That applies to anything. Like, I will give you that, not promoting it. Yeah, I got you. That that I can agree with you. If you didn't try, if you didn't care, then yeah, don't be upset. Yeah, there's no reason. Like, like, like, uh, like Philly said, you can't be upset if somebody got the shoes that stood in line if you never even stood in line. So I think that's a great point. All right, back to the uh the question what's the timeline to vent or have those feelings? What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 16:19

I think it's it depends on the person. Everybody's everybody processes disappointment differently.

SPEAKER_05 16:25

True.

SPEAKER_04 16:26

I've always been a person where if I get bad news, like if I didn't make when I was in, if I didn't get promoted, I would give myself I'm sorry. I would give myself 24 hours and then I would just go in seclusion for a week and reflect. And then after that, my pity party is over, I move on. But everybody's different. Chris says personally, 72 hours, anything more than that starts to consume a person. And you know what? That that's actually great. The only thing I would add to that, let's see, who's that? Oh Justin. Oh, Justin says, I've always given myself the day to recover, and then I move on and refocus.

SPEAKER_05 17:08

I also fight for feedback. Gene, I'm gonna talk shit about that because my timeline is.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Oh, yeah, you had to roast them on that one. But anyway, I'll I'll quickly say, I think what Chris said was was important when he says the 72 hours go back to Chris's point about the 72 hours one. Yeah, personally 72 hours. Okay, the can that's why I wanted to touch on the consume part because that is true. If you're the type of person that's you can almost be because I always feel like you are your harshest critic. I know for me, I am like you'll get up, I'll give a speech or whatever, and then I may get applause, you know, I may get a standing ovation or something, and I'll still beat myself up because I missed a uh a sub point or I didn't articulate a word correctly. And somebody'll say, Well, you did a great job, you'll say, Nah, you know, it was terrible, blah, blah, blah. Most people your heart, your own harshest critic. But if there's a there's a case or piece in your mental health that if you're too harsh on yourself, it can be debilitating to your mental. And you've you've gotta you've gotta be careful of that.

SPEAKER_05 18:23

All right, uh, a couple more comments, and I'll give my opinion. Uh, and Charles Davis kind of stole it. So, Gene Harris, I'm I'm come back to this five minutes thing. Uh, Freddie Kincaid said, I don't think you can put a timeline on it. Everyone has different stakes from year to year. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. A lot of comments just hit. Uh, however, much time you need, but get over it and get and get after it. Yeah, I agree. Uh, thank you for the YouTube comment. Man, I always love the YouTube comment. Oh my thank you. My stuff ain't working. Everybody is, they just put it off on everyone else. That's very true. Far, this is a lot until the next business, until the next business week. Results come out on a Tuesday. You got until Monday. To me, in most cases, you're in a situation where you're already in the next EPB window. Very true. If you wasn't on your horse, then time to get on, saddle up, and get to work. Very I don't don't disagree. Uh, we should never be our own harshest critic. Why would you crit why would you be critical to yourself? Kelly, we're gonna get on to that one. Uh I think I would have been good if there was feedback. Ah, Charles, can you hit the thing for Charles Davis? Hit the nail. That's why a lot of people get frustrated, no feedback. All right, let me get to my point real quick. So, Chris Jones said 72 hours. I say 24 hours. You got 24 hours to be as pissed off as you want. Go home. Now that's when you get home. 24 hours from when you get home. You can't be pissed off at 10 o'clock in the morning when everybody else finds out the results. The commander's walking away around and they don't get to your office or get to your part. You can't be pissed off then. Once you get home, it's your time to be pissed off. What I will say, you also cannot tell people people be like, How are you feeling? Be like, Oh, I'm good. I'm all right, if you're really not good. Because you're not helping yourself and you're not helping anybody else. Like I said, you should have some feelings of upsetness. Because if you ain't, like, what are you even here for? We are here to get promoted. We put in work to get promoted because that's a byproduct of putting in work. And I'm not saying that's the only reason to put in work, but that is the byproduct. If I do A, I should get B. When you feel like you're doing A and not getting it, you get upset. And I agree with that. Uh, to all right, I'll pause there if you want to say anything about that.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Um, I I guess what I would say is this this is part of the topic, but this begs a question. I've something I've always, and I think the majority of us here who's in the military, specifically in the Air Force, has always had an issue with. And it was said in the comments, it's the feedback part. The feedback part is so critical, critical. And we are terrible with that because one, we don't want to hurt somebody's feelings, two, we feel like the feedback we're gonna get is not accurate enough or not specific enough. And when you work your tail off, your ass off, and you your records go to the board, and your board takes a dump on you and gives you a terrible board score. Yeah, you don't know what happened. And you've got every single person, your mentors, your friends telling you how great your records are and your performance, and you're one of the most high performing. NCOs or senior NCOs, and you get to the board and they take a complete ish on your stuff, it can mess with your mental because you'd be like, Yo, I've done everything I was supposed to do. I got the degree, I was top three president, I got an award. I went even did that ishy development thing that my chief wanted me to do, and I still didn't get promoted. That is that is something that begs a stronger conversation.

The Feedback Problem: Transparency & Boards

SPEAKER_05 22:32

So uh Gene Harrison says my timeline is five minutes. I'ma call strong BS on that. There is no way you can get over a year of preparation or year of work in five minutes. No way. Impossible. Because now you ain't got another chance for another year. And I'm not saying promotion is everything, I'm not saying that. But I will say if you are a hardworking individual and you put in work, like to Philly's point, you were top three president, A, B, C, D, EFG, check, because I'll be honest, it's just a box checking thing. You checked all these boxes, and you and then the worst is that you know, for our senior NCOs, if you get stratd and you still don't get it, it's like, bro, what do I what the and then to your point about the feedback, you have no idea what's going on. You just basically in gravity or in space, just spinning around. Can't figure things out. All right, let's get to a lot of these comments and we're kind of going back on our conversations, and I'll let you take off with it, or we can move subjects. Uh, feedback is virtual or is vital. I'm sorry. And a lot of times we don't get it. Questioning you, Justin, do you not get it or do you not get what you want? I think I think a lot of people get feedback. Uh what Ferrar said, feedback should be equally sought after as it is expected. There you go. Great.

SPEAKER_04 23:58

Do you really? But but let me I've said I've asked this before. Do you I'll post this to anybody? Do you really want the feedback? Because I've had times where I've given people feedback and it did not go well. You know, I mean, it's almost like you know what it's like. It's like buying a pair of the analogy I think of is like you buy a pair of shoes, right? A bear, a brand new pair of sneakers, right? Pair of J's, and you think they the fly sneakers, and then you go up to your man's, you'd be like, Yo, I got these, I picked up these new joints, and they say, They so so man, them joints look too big, or the colors are washed out, or whatever, and then you get pissed, you like, man, forget you, man. You just mad because you ain't got some blah blah blah. But that's another form of feedback. But in the case of this, when somebody tells you, I know I had some people say, I know you ish hot, man, but your records ain't all that. People get mad. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah, and it's like, what you mean? I ain't all that, man. I was see, they start running down. I was two times seriously over the corner, I was seriously over the year, I got scratched two years. You'll be like, I get this. Then you get these these and these ambiguous comments like that. Was when you was a master sergeant. Now you're in a new pool now. You'd be like, Well, what's the difference?

SPEAKER_05 25:22

Doesn't that count anymore? All right, let's get to these comments. Uh, exactly. If you are not wonderful, magnificent, wonderfully, I think it is magnificent and great, then what are you? What are you? Hmm. Can't be great all the time. I won't lie, I wasn't mad about not getting promoted last year. The assignment family imp implications would have sucked. Okay. So you wouldn't be able to go with Freddie. I get that. I get that. I think a lot of people have been in those shoes where if you get promoted, you're gonna end up going somewhere else or you can't take the assignment. So it's like, hey, kind of thank goodness I didn't get promoted. Uh, they keep doing a Justin said they keep doing what you're doing. Feedback is the worst, the worst, the worst. If someone tells you, run the other way. The word that is probably the worst feedback. Just keep doing what you're doing, you'll get there eventually. Farr said, feedback from the board is trash. They give you past feedback, expecting it to work the next year, the next year, like those same folks are gonna be sitting on the board. I guess the goalposts move everywhere every year. The goalposts move every year.

SPEAKER_07 26:37

That's very oh man.

SPEAKER_04 26:40

We need, you know what? We really need. I wish we had more time. We this bags is own show because I, ladies and gentlemen, all those that are listening, I look at this show as another arm to enact change, and this is a topic that has been an issue for people for a long time is that stinking board, or the process of how people within your respective unit gets racked and stacked for stratification, and there's there's never any transparency. In other words, we I think Pete mentioned it on one show that he said, you know how you go out for the football team, and then at the end of the day, at the end of school, there's a list on a board, and you get to see who made it, who didn't make it. Although it's painful if you're not on that list, at least you see it. Yeah, when it comes to stratification, yeah, you don't know. Yeah, you all is hey, you were close, but you didn't get it this time, right? You're working hard doing what you're doing, and you gotta hear from the the dorm lawyers, yeah, or at the top three meeting, or at the bar, who made it? Yo, who man, I ain't getting no strat, bro. I can't believe dang DC. Well, Pete said he has a good shot. He got straight. Pete got strat in, yeah. You the same dude who ain't do his. Yeah, are you serious?

SPEAKER_05 28:09

Yeah, it shouldn't be that life anyway.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

I'll pause there.

SPEAKER_05 28:12

All right, Gene Harris. Harrison, thank you for commenting back. I see it, and then cool. That's the 21 year talking for sure. For sure, for sure. I had a 15 and had to move on because hey, life move on. Yeah, but you didn't move on from your 15 in five minutes. I guarantee that.

SPEAKER_04 28:33

Guarantee that I I I had to side with Gene. I had to side with Gene on this one because I think this begs a the other conversation too. There are some people, you know how they say, like, a great chief is someone who's been in trouble, facts had a 15 facts, right? So for Gene, when he went through his ish when he was a young when his stuff was bad, like a lot of people would have just got out and quit. The way he was able to come back, and then people help him get to a certain thing, you don't forget that. Same thing for me. When I went through my ish when I was an airman, I didn't forget that. So there was stuff I still went through as I went through my career, but I always reflected on what I went through when I thought the world was going to end for me and I still survived it. That does something to your mental adversity.

Can AI Fix Promotions And Feedback

SPEAKER_05 29:24

But I think the question, I'll go to all these comments. So thank you. I'll keep flooding the comments, I'll get to all of my promise. Uh it begs the question that statement that you made. Chiefs make great chiefs because they've been in trouble. I hate not because they've been in trouble, because they had adversity. I'll say that because they know how to deal with it when an airman comes to them and they're so like Gene to his point, since he said it, he had a 15. So when an airman comes and is a getting a 15, or B is uh has already got a 15 and trying to recover from it, he could talk from a experience and B, you know, like I guess just experience, we'll just stick to A experience on what's going on, so he can help them through that. Somebody like myself, I ain't never got a 15. I seen plenty of them, but I don't know the internal feelings it is. But I'll say, Gene, to tell somebody, oh, I got over mine in five minutes, and I don't know if you'll ever say that to them, but I get my get over mine in five minutes. That's probably not the best feedback in the world because I would assume it should, and it does take longer for you to get over that feedback, or excuse me, that punishment. Because 15 is a is an actual punishment. Whether you lost a stripe or didn't lose a stripe or whatever. All right, let's get to these comments because we got two more topics to talk about. So we're gonna wrap up this topic with these comments, and then me and uh Philly will give our last uh comments about this topic, and then we'll move on to the next one. So if y'all got comments about this, wrap it up now. Uh, what about years of doing the check boxes, the above and beyond, and no feedback? It is defeating when we have when we as a forest preach feedback. I think we give feedback, it's just the people. The people don't give great feedback. It's almost like anything that we do, it's the freaking people. People, so not everybody is great feedback givers, and they don't even know. Like, they'll be like, I'm a chief, I'm a senior, I'm a shirt, I'm a this, I'm a supervisor. But that don't mean that you give great feedback. And a lot of it, to Philly's point, is not you giving it, it's the person receiving it. You might not be they flavor. And I think to you understand, you need to understand that hey, I might not be the one that gives you the feedback you want to hear. I give it from my style, how I give it. I don't know how you're gonna take this feedback. Maybe you need to go find somebody who will tell you, keep doing what you're doing, because you like that feedback. To answer your question, Pete, feedback is a two-way street. We talked about that. Ferrar. If you want to do better and be better, then absolutely. If you're the type of person that don't do well with constructive criticism, then sit back and wait. Either way, you're gonna be mad if you don't like criticism. I agree. Great point. DC, you got a 100. Uh, don't forget those who sit on the promotion board and give a formal board charge that they don't have to follow. Whoa, do they always do that? Makes you wonder. Philly.

SPEAKER_04 32:40

What do you mean? Why do you say Philly?

SPEAKER_05 32:41

Well, that would be a question for you.

SPEAKER_04 32:43

I don't, I never been on a board or seen a board or I think what Justin is saying is is true. I mean, there are there are people in a large group, and you've been in briefings like that where they say, Hey, I'm gonna give my feedback because I sat on the board, and you go there flocking with everyone else to get some great information to prepare you for the next year. And they start off by saying, Hey, I have to tell you that we have this formal board charge we were given. We can't share what was discussed or what we've seen on the board. I can only give you this information, and pretty much it's the exact same thing they get vanilla, and they don't tell you nothing you don't already know, which is pointless. Now, some people will circumvent a little bit and say, What I can tell you is right is that really look that's there's some value in that, but going back to one comment where somebody says something to the fact of I can't remember what it was, but anyway, it was something to the fact of oh, constructive criticism.

SPEAKER_09 33:46

Yeah, for all right.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

The problem is is the people I put like this when I didn't make it, it was it, I was thankful to have uh some chiefs who was in my corner that gave me feedback, but it would mean a lot more from the person who actually looked at my records. Correct. Yep, yep, and you don't get that. It's no different. If somebody, if if I was in a circle with Justin, I said, you know what, let's not hire Pete. That dude is trash, his underarm stink, he got doo-doo breath, and he sucks at writing documents, and then Pete, you go to Freddie Kincaid, and Freddie Kincaid said, Hey Pete, you know what the issue is, I don't know what the big deal is, man. But it probably because you need a haircut, or you know, sometimes you a little bit tard in your underarms, and you'd be like, Thank you. But you would really get what you need if you heard it straight from the horse's mouth, which is me, right? That said the stuff, who was the gatekeeper?

SPEAKER_05 34:52

Right, and that's what we don't get, and a lot of it is uh to probably a lot of people's frustration is like if I go to you and be like, Man, I didn't get promoted. Why did you know what happened? You say, Well, let me look at your records, you know, do the famous record review. Because for the next two, three months around bases, that's all you're gonna hear is F and records review, records review, and they're gonna have master sergeants look at staff sergeants and chiefs look at master sergeants, the same old BS record review crap. And I hate it because to your point, I go to you and be like, yo, your records look fine. I don't know why you didn't get promoted. I go to somebody else, and they'd be like, Well, you're missing education, well, you're missing experience, well, you need a PCS, you need a new job, blah, blah, blah. I go to somebody else, be like, Well, you need to volunteer more, maybe top three. So it's like, bruh. So basically, I just suck at everything. That's basically what I get. Like, I'm either great at everything, keep doing what I do, or I suck at everything and just keep sucking. Pause. So it's just like it's just like, what do I do with this stupid feedback? And to your point, I need to hear it from the horse's mouth. When Philly is sitting on the board, what the hell is he? What the hell feedback do I need from him? Hey, when I was on your board, we were charged with looking or taking consideration in job experience, right? Right, and all the chiefs I just sat on the board when nobody said job experience. But if I would have got it from you, I'd be like, Oh, okay, at least I know why they make it, but back to Ferrar's point, and I'll shut up. Back to Ferrari, he said, hey, yo, I gave the pause. I gave the pause. I gave the pause. Hey, don't say nothing to LT, but uh, I gave the pause, but to uh Ferrari's point, the goalposts just keep moving, so it's almost like what am I doing records review for if the goalpost is gonna keep moving? I don't know what the board charge is gonna be next year.

SPEAKER_04 37:01

I'll ask one quick provocative question because I know you want to move on. Would you think it would make it better if they put on a checklist blow by blow, line for line, the exact checks you need in order to get promoted? Do you think that's good?

SPEAKER_05 37:22

Man, that's a tough Charles Davis said hard pause. That's tough to answer because there are very few things in life that have checklists to get something out of them. So it's like back to your football analogy. There's no checklist to how I make the football team. You know, so it's like, hey, like we got four receivers, or you know, we got so many masters and security forces that can get promoted. We I I would hope they're not just promoting people with deployment experience. And if you don't have deployment experience, you can't make the cut. I hope. But to your point, I think it would make people feel better until they don't make it and see somebody that does make it that doesn't meet the checklist. Because if they put it, say they say they put out senior checklist now for people who didn't make it. That's all, and they said top three president. Oh my god, the line for run for top three president would be out the door, it'd be 45 people in line, and then if they don't get it, they'd be like, Oh, I guess I ain't getting senior this year, so they're just not gonna do nothing at all. Some people just won't do nothing at all. So I I I I would think it would make people feel better until they don't make it or don't they can't fulfill the whole checklist. Like, hey, I'll be honest, there's a motherfucking bitch ass senior that I know that was with me at a certain location, and he didn't make chief, and his feedback was, oh, you need education. That mother effer was taking four classes at a time trying to get his degree done within a year. Wasn't worried about anything else in life. That was the only thing he worried about. I'm pretty sure he made chief too. But those are the mother effers that I be talking about. And I know I said BA senior, and now I'm saying MFer, but I'm trying to slow down on my cursing because we're gonna get killed on YouTube. But uh those those are the people that those are the checklist people that I can't stand. Oh, it buries my soul. Like you don't even care about anything else in life but making cheap. Nothing else in life. Should have got on Sophia learning. Oh, don't get me started on that. Hey, you know what? Do what you need to do to check a box. Do what you need to do to check a box.

War Talk: Viral Soldier Clips & Reality

SPEAKER_04 40:05

All right, well, we can move on. But before we do, shout out to people watching on YouTube. And if you're in the comments, man, make sure you hit that like button, man. Hit that like button if you haven't already subscribed to the unpopular celebrities on YouTube, Facebook, our social media platforms. Make sure you do that. And also, if you want to help your boys out and you're getting this content and you this content and you loving it, yo, hit us up, send us a cash app, whatever. We're gonna get malentized soon. You can help support the show. We appreciate it. So, based on Pete's reaction, there's a comment he wanted to read. I'll pause there.

SPEAKER_05 40:40

That's funny that you say it. No, it's just a super long comment that I don't remember. Brady, yeah, I'll read it. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_04 40:48

Brady McCoy says it hasn't been a secret on the check boxes to promote. You will never get that feedback from the board individually unless they incorporate AI. Wow, way to time consuming. If you have the check, let's apply yourself and produce excellence. You have a chance. It will never seem like it works because of the number of people versus number of slots and humans. Anyway, feedback matters if your person giving it matters to you. So that is interesting. I have a I have various thoughts when it comes to that one. I guess let well let me wait and see if you have something. This is interesting. I think Brady McCoy is a chief too.

SPEAKER_05 41:29

That was that AI comment was probably the most spot on thing I heard. Why can't why can't they use AI?

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Do you but do you really okay? You know what? Let me let me let me let me quickly say this. You are right now. When I think when I really think about it, you are right. That is actually a great idea because it's it is um totally objective. Yeah, exactly. It's objective. We just the only thing is is you still need the human element to plug in the different things for AI to analyze. That's the issue. No, I but if they were able to, yeah, I'm sorry, no, go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 42:17

No, no, no, you're on you're on it. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

Cause like, think about it. Like, if I put in AI right now, Chief Counsel's records, the only thing they could be able to pull from was the internet. But you have smart people like my bride Wendy, who knows how to make their own GPTs, and you put in certain data based off, like, say, the past 10 years of things that they valued in a particular career field that makes the next rank. There you go. And then it's objective, they don't see name, they don't see age unless you put it in there and you throw it in there, like to Brady McCoy's point, that's your feedback. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 42:58

Oh, it's actually a great idea. That that's probably and y'all let me know in the comments because that I think we just solved the I think he just solved the deployment, the promotion problem. If we we use AI for everything else, and everybody loves AI right now, especially when they use it, they love it, they think they're the smartest ones in the room. Let's check AI. Hey, chat said that's like what I hear more than Google, but I think for you, like you just said, I I'm not uh, you know, I wish Mike Pendleton was on here because he could kind of kind of talk that machine learning, uh, artificial intelligence stuff. But if you put in the parameters for each career field, I would say still do the individual board thing, but I would be very I wish I had uh uh Elon Musk money to make this experience happen. Because I would love to see what people think and what AI thinks and how different it is. That's what would be the check. We put the board charge in. Are you still there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I thought you were frozen. We put the board charge in to AI and then upload 10 records and then have in those three chiefs, what two colonels and a chief, look at those same three records and rack and stack each one. I would be curious to see the difference and why the difference is what it is. I would be man, I you know what, Ferrar, I know you had Luke, and I sorry to put your business out there. I would love that experiment just to happen. Man, God, McCoy, that's such a great idea. I wish I was still in the military because I would make that happen.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

I mean it wouldn't be that easy though.

SPEAKER_05 44:41

Tell me why not.

SPEAKER_04 44:43

Well, because you're one person, you would have to con you have you would have to convince a career field to be able to compile data to use it. Like it'll be it'll work for you to analyze folks' records if you did the work, the data. Yes, like I would challenge anyone. I bet you if you send me your records, not everybody, but if somebody wants to send me their records, I will create, in my opinion, an AI tool to review your records. And I'm curious if it will spit out the same board score that you just got this year. I challenge anybody. If you're interested, hit me up in the DM, send me your records offline, and I'm going to create the GPT and we'll see what it says if it gets close. But to quickly to your point, uh, it would work for you to review your own people's records, but for a whole career fill in the Air Force, you'll still have some people, and there is still something to be said about the human element because let's be honest, and I know you ain't gonna agree, but just hear me out. Is it true that you have some people who are great at the job, but AI cannot factor in your commitment level? True, that's that's or your your personality or attitude.

SPEAKER_05 46:07

Yeah, yeah, yep, yep. That shouldn't matter though.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

It shouldn't. Oh, this oh, don't get me started. It should. Why not? Because you are this one person. No, no, no, no. Let me finish. There are quite a few people you know, you, you, you know, and make let me make sure before I make this point I zoom in. There are quite a few people you know, you know that you said yourself that should not be either a chief or a commander, but they have great records.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

Yes, that is that is Pete's thought. But if I'm just looking at the board charge, I shouldn't care about none of that stuff, and that's what we should be going off of. If we are this uh, or if they are this force of basically like the justice, like blind to all that stuff that you're talking about, because that's all intangible, that's all emotional feelings. How I feel about somebody, how professional they are, all this other BS that doesn't matter because they could pretend a certain way in front of crowds, all of a sudden they're the best mass star and you ever seen in their life. Oh, he speaks so well. What the fuck does that mean? Anyway, moving on, moving on. Uh Dale says someone can hop in the Spark Cell for it. I'm sure if they have the time. Good. Ferrar says, Ferrar, uh, thank you, Ferrar. Personality does matter if someone's in the position to influence results, don't like you, you're screwed. Exactly. That's where, that's where I hey. If if Pete don't like your personality, nobody cares. But if Command Chief X doesn't like your personality, you're you're you're done. You can have the best records in the world. You better have a good sounding board. You better have a good sounding board that can speak up for you because you're done. Here we go. Charles Davis said, Oh, gr okay, here we go. I know a few or a fellow senior NCO who use AI to rack and stack packages, and I was amazed by its output. So Brady is on something. I think you still have to go beyond behind it to contribute the unknown at the table, but it gives very more objective perspective. So tell me, Charles, what is this? I think you should you still have to go behind it to contribute the unknown. What is the unknown? Because on the board, wait, let me just say this on the board for seeing for mass arts. Now that might work to get strated, right? That will work on the stratus strat part, but I'm saying on the promotion part, these people, these two colonels and the chief that nobody's supposed to know who they are. All they get is a board charge. I wish we had somebody on here that was on the board. All we get is the board charge. They get is the board charge. So they go off of that, and that matters. Okay, thank you, Brady, for commenting on this because you started this. Let me read this comment, Philly, and then I'm going to you about this because uh I'm sure you have some comments about this. Uh, personality matters only if you have lazy representation in the room. You're not wrong, though. Philly?

Conduct, Leadership & Consequences Online

SPEAKER_04 49:33

Oh, okay. I was going to you uh like I said I just I just I just want people to consider again there are many examples I can give of people who are good at the job, but they they're terrible with people, they're narcissistic, yeah, they're complete frigging a-holes, and they do not need to be in a position to lead, but they are because someone looked at their resume or stuff they did in the past, and they assume that they're more than experienced and competent enough. How many of y'all have had somebody in your formation or at your office that were your boss and they were complete a-holes, but they were super smart in this board charge? They don't mention you've got to look at experience, competency, awards, personality. They don't say that, however, in your respective reportings, in your respective reports, it does mention in there and the sub points on the sub-bullets in there, something to do with competency, um, decision making. That's all wrapped up, but we don't do that, you know why? Because it's just like those things are wrapped up, but we don't look at that. We always look at just performance, right? Which is also if if you were to follow the form the way it's supposed to be done, you would factor in that, but it doesn't give you a subgrade that you can give somebody. P could be great at paperwork, P could be great at leadership, P could be great at responses, but you're terrible at supervision, at counseling, you're terrible at dressing appearance, right? But there's no sub point to grade that. Correct. That's part of the problem. So when we say the board charge, oh no, no, no, you can't get anybody, you can't you can't hold somebody accountable because they're a-hos, it doesn't say on the board charge, it doesn't, but it says on a report, and people are using that when they're on the board. The only difference is on the board, it says if you know this individual, you're supposed to say something so that way it gets it eliminates bias, right?

SPEAKER_05 52:08

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 52:10

I would love to know, and I think it would be impossible to know how many people actually raise their hand to say, Oh, take me off the board. I know this person.

SPEAKER_05 52:18

Nobody, nobody like you said, it would be impossible to know, but nobody. If I was in if and I would hope you would do the same for me, I'm just gonna say because we both retire. If you the one chief on my my board and you know me, I would expect you to be like, Oh, that's that's Pete. And I know his records say this, but he squared away. Exactly. I would hope that happened now. Does it happen the opposite way? Probably not, unless you just don't like that person. I know a lot of chiefs that would probably throw me under the bus. Like, oh no, F that dude, Pete. Pete Peter, Dominic Peterson. Oh no, F that dude, forget that. Uh, so I think to your point, that stuff about man, we're gonna be on this topic forever. That's why we should start with the other topic. But uh to your point, ah, at the local stratification level, I think those were those conversations come up.

SPEAKER_04 53:13

But so I like nobody wants us to move on anyway. This is another show in itself. Who knows? Y'all put in the chat. Do y'all want us to do a show strictly on this topic? Hit us up in the chat, let us know. Just put a yes down there or no. Uh if you want to see this.

SPEAKER_05 53:29

Yes, you need to go beyond because they may be great to AI and on paper, but they could have tendencies and personality traits that make them an a-hole. That's the Philly's point. I'm agreeing with you. Uh, DC, exactly. Please don't get me started on that. We'll be on this feedback topic until tomorrow. All right, so uh yes, right there. Hey, shout out. Hey, Jason, Jason Holliman's in here, man. Shout out to you, Jarvis Thompson. What's up, big dog? Uh man, so at the stratification level, I don't mind people saying he's an a-hole, he's this, he's that, blah blah blah blah. All right, so we just got so many yeses, which is next topic, I guess. And this is what we'll do. This is what we'll do. And Philly, if you're good with this, sorry for putting you on spot. If we can do this next week, we'll pause, we'll pause in a second and continue next week. We will also open it up to anybody who wants to come on, either just their audio or both visual and audio. We will open it up for you to come on, make a comment, and then can and then can get off. We won't just keep you on the show the whole time. But if you would love to make a comment, like Brady McCoy, I'd love for you to come on and talk about this AI stuff. Uh, Ferrari, you said you had a lot of stuff to say. I would love for you to come on. So we can open that. What do you what are your thoughts on that? Because I don't just yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 54:56

I would add this. Think of it as we used to do a segment called The Corner Man. It's the same thing. If you want to get on, you want to talk about it, and not even more than that, tell us your experience. If you felt like you had a situation where you did not make the promotion or the award and you got shitty feedback, tell us about it. We would love to hear your story, and also if you have an idea how you believe it should be fixed, we would love to hear it.

SPEAKER_05 55:20

Yeah, I think this AI idea, I don't know why nobody thought about it. Maybe they have and haven't realized, but Philly, if you want, if Dale said he'll send you his records, if you want I think G said Sue, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:32

So if y'all tell me y'all join, man, I will make I I put like this send it to me, and then I'm gonna ask you, do you want me to to the kind of slightly touch on what I found on the air? If not, I'll just send you what it found and and and go from there.

SPEAKER_05 55:49

No, I think that's the caveat, it is gonna be talked about on the air.

SPEAKER_04 55:53

No, I mean, I don't want if they say like, hey, the AI your stuff was trash or whatever. I you know, if you want me to share your board score versus what the board score AI gave you, then let me know if you okay if me if I share it.

SPEAKER_05 56:08

And that's why I said if not, I'll send you my stuff and you can share. I mean, I'm out, I don't care. So where I would have racked and stacked or where I would have been at, that's fine as well.

SPEAKER_04 56:16

Actually, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_05 56:18

Yeah, I don't care.

SPEAKER_04 56:19

Uh we can do three, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:21

Yeah, so I think that I think that'd be great. So, all right, whoo! Man, all right, three claps and a we done with that. Man, this went crazy. This went crazy. Ooh, that AI idea is so great though. McCoy, that I I hope nobody steals that from you because Ferrari, like I said, I would go to Luke on Monday, I would go to the command chief and say, I know we're about to do 45 records review. These are one of the records reviews I would like to do, and just use AI to do it and see what happens. Just see what happens.

SPEAKER_04 56:59

There's a couple of things that just come to mind too. The uh there's some sensitive information you want to be careful now to put in there too. Like socials, like if you like, well, no, not socials, you know, mostly like say content. Like, say if you put in there something dealing with, I don't know, the protection of certain amount of aircraft or whatever. I don't know. I'm sure somebody will mention it. You just have to be careful that I don't know why you would, but that's something.

Gate Tales: Umbrellas, Greetings & Standards

SPEAKER_05 57:25

Yeah, we know you trash people be the AI. Hey, let AI talk. So the personal bias, personal bias, you freaking flopping hater, personal bias. Anyway, you freaking hater.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

All right, all right, moving on. So we want to go over to the uh main headline of the thumbnail, huh?

SPEAKER_05 57:46

Yeah, real quick, and then we'll go to the other part.

SPEAKER_04 57:49

All right, so we'll give you some quick context. So, as you know, unfortunately, we are embroiled in a war in the Middle East with Iran along with Israel. And uh we have all most of us have all been in the Air Force, either retired or still serving. And a lot of us who are old folks, like myself, maybe not as old as me, have been involved in conflicts where we probably when we joined, we didn't think we would have to be involved in. I know your boy, when I was coming out of Philadelphia, when I signed up for the Air Force, there was a specific reason. I knew if we went to war, if I was in the Air Force, nine, I probably wouldn't have to worry about being in the foxhole or worried about being on the ship. So when I joined, I joined the air force. I was like, I ain't gotta worry about that until I found out was security forces pause. That's not a pause. Well, yeah, it is for me because I didn't know I was gonna have to worry about getting shot at. So when we went right on the heels of Desert Shield and then Operation Iraqi Freedom and the Door Creek. Shout out to Pallad Air Force Base and Sather Air Force Base right at the end of the war, it scared the living out of me. But I knew eventually, as I got older, that's part of the job of being in uniform. Well, as a new round of folks in uniform, and I think the majority of them probably had the same idea that I did. Nines out of ten, you won't have to worry about going to war. No one's really fighting in Iraq, only a few people fight in Afghanistan. Well, there was one particular army soldier that put out a viral video about his reservations of being involved in a war. I'll let Pete roll the clip.

SPEAKER_06 59:43

Give me a second. It's gonna take me a second to get it.

SPEAKER_04 59:46

And while he's doing that, y'all put in the chat when y'all joined, did y'all think or was y'all afraid or worried about going to war? And be honest. Let's see how many G.I. Joe's Captain Americas we got out there. Be like, F yeah, I joined because I wanted to go to war. Put it in the chat.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:09

Oh no, did I close it? Hold on. I know I didn't close it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:12

Your boy was worried. Oof. I remember when I got to Iraq. Shout out to Waddlington, Mark Deal, Pete, all those who was in Bilad with me, man. When we got off the plane and we had to put on our body armor, and they showed the picture of the dude getting blown up, scared the living crap out of me. Terrell Ferrar says, Balada Lum 06 to 07. That's right, my brother. Balada Lum, aka Morterville. Damn, was he out there with us? No, no, that's Brady says, wasn't even a thought. Brady, interesting. Yeah, yeah, wasn't even a thought. Brady, uh, if you want to if you want to share, what was your AFSC, man? Were you three P? What were you? I'm curious if you want to share it or not. Um, hold on. I'm getting so Bilad, I did personally, I did three tours in Iraq. I didn't get a chance to go to Afghanistan, but three tours in Iraq. Bilad, uh to Lil Airfase, and then Sather was the last one when they close off the Iraqi war. Let's see.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:19

All right, you ready?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:20

And SASB says, I just knew I was safe joining the Air Force until I went K9.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:25

Ha!

SPEAKER_04 1:01:28

Yeah, I'm ready. Roll the clip.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:29

All right, hold on. Make sure you can't. Oh, you ain't gonna be able to see it, so let me do this. I can see it on. I got Facebook open too. All right. Uh let me see if I can.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:38

Make sure y'all hit the like button, man. Let's see the clip. Can't hear the voice. Yeah, I got it. I got it.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:45

I got it. Give me a second. Oh man. I swear you gotta love technology.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:58

Man, come on, baby. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:00

Terrell says, didn't join for it, but knew the military came with the potential for it and still signed up and joined.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:12

Alright, let's hit it.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

I ain't never been hit. I ain't never been hit this many fucking times in my career.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:29

Overly think it. Well, I got a real plan. When I signed, I signed my first when I signed my first deal, I signed the most fucked up deal in the world. I don't give a damn. I just needed the platform. I had the plan. I'm gonna get I I gotta get out of the deal.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:43

Alright, one more time because our people uh lose my fucking life. I ain't never been hit this many fucking times in my career.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:50

Rose is not red, dial is not blue.

unknown 1:02:53

But motherfuckers say they don't like me, dick.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:55

Whoopdy doo.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:59

Well, I got a real plan. Right. When I signed my first day, I signed the most fucked up deal in the world.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:05

Alright. So while y'all, while we're talking about y'all let us know in the comments what y'all think about this video. It's an army specialist, I believe, who is apparently stationed somewhere in the Middle East getting some um explosions or rockets. Brady McCoy, I thought you were a three P bro. Um, anyway, so though you have that, and so I want to roll this next clip, if you don't mind, um, Pete, about this other one. You have that, and because this is videos in contrast to that one. You have this army specialist that's like, look, I want to get out of here. I've never been hit that much in this in my career. Roll to this one of a bunch of army soldiers who actually are poking fun at the enemy. Are you putting it up or do you want me to put it up? Yeah, I'm gonna put it up. Okay, I'm waiting on you to send it. Okay. That's actually poking fun at the enemy. I think y'all might enjoy this one. Okay, let me know if you can see it.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:06

All right, here we go. A roll of the clip. Watch this.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:15

We ain't never alright. Bitch, we did World War One and we did World War II. Bitch, we do this again. Alright, we ain't scared of you. No, where the fuck do y'all stay? We ain't never heard of you. We said too exit dope, bitch, no, we purge. How are you gonna be dead?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:40

All right, so there you have it. So shout out to my army brothers and sisters, man. I love y'all, but y'all wildin'. That's wild. Y'all are wildin'. Okay, first, um, like I said, put in the comments what y'all think about them two videos, man. Um, one particular one about the last video I showed. They said, yo, these dudes must, these girls must be in the kitchen. Sabel Brown, what's up, brother? Data DC Boo. I'll take that, my brother, especially from you. I'll take that one. So the Army specialist video. I empathize with him because, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. First couple of rockets and mortars hit. What up, Chief? Sorry. No worries. Uh, Lashana Williams says, didn't expect it because my brother was army and told me to go Air Force to be safe and not go to war. Uh, and you three P too. I have six deployed. Well, she was three P, right?

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SPEAKER_05 1:05:42

Yeah, well, for like a day. She was three Psych for a day and a half. I can't wait to go get your shirt. I can't wait till the retirement ceremony. She was she was three P for an hour and a half. She was three P enough time to learn what 1168 was and then got out. That was it. Sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:04

Hey, go get your shirt, Chief.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:06

Shout out Chief Williams, though the real at 3P. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:10

She said, I have sis deployed more than him. Retrain from SF to services because in my head I wouldn't deploy as much. I have sis deployed more than my SF husband. Apparently, I was put there because I am a bass. Um, yeah, when I got hit with some mortars in Balaya, yeah, I was scared shitless too. I was too. But eventually, like, yeah, yeah, them videos are dumb. Yeah, they are for a day.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:40

Um, yeah, that's Pete. Yeah, come get them for a day. Um, but yeah, uh, it seems like to me, the young army specialist wants a way out of the army for posting that video.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:52

What do you think? I agree. It's just stupid. I just I just think it's stupid. Uh you know, whatever his goal was to go viral. Congratulations, you did your thing. But to those, I really want to talk about the other specialists that made this little video, talking about World War II and everything else. Six years P and did more than Pete did his whole career. That's shout out to my chief who I love to death. But anyway, uh if you think that we are ever going to war like that again, you that's not even how wars are fought. We don't do the they're like talking about ground militia. They're talking about goddamn the Patriot, where everybody lines up and says, You gotta shoot two times to get your freedom. Uh, you stand all in a line, ready. Hey, hey, that's what they think is war. That's what they think war is. Hey, man, you think you're just gonna go over there and this is the uh battlefields of Iraq back in 1993, where you just run up on people and just start bucking that? That's not how war works. It just shows the incompetency of these younger individuals that don't understand what war is. Now, when me and Philly went to war, where are we getting bombed at? But do we ever see anybody bombing us? No, no, you might see somebody if you were on the tower. Maybe they seen people, but all they see is a big ass or a truck, yeah.

unknown 1:08:28

But that's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:31

I tell you, ain't that some shit? You be sitting there, you ride around, you look out the fence, and you see a truck pull up. Next thing you hear is you even got time, they gone, they shoot. Boop. Luckily, they wasn't too accurate, but accurate enough to scare the living is shiny.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:49

Hey, you what's funny talking about this. If you remember when we first got to Block, it was run for cover in the middle of the night. Here comes run, find the bunker, get out your room. Man, by month three, you just just girl. I'm tired, I'm tired of getting up. Like, if it's your day, it's your day.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:07

I'm tired of getting up, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:08

I'm tired of getting up. But I will say there was one time when I walk into the bathroom, walking to go take a shower, and that thing hit off, and that bunker was right there. I was like, I'll go in the bunker real quick. It's right here. Let me just hide real quick. Sitting there with my towel and my PT shorts on, bad as hell.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:27

How many of y'all was actually taking the dump and the dang near uh porta potty and the dang thing go off? Did you stay there and just continue, or do you run for the bunker? Well, boo-boo.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:40

Hey no, I stay like you said, if it's it's gonna be so embarrassing if it's my day, but if it's my day, I'm just gonna stay. F that.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:48

Your lies peak with a bunch of boo-boo.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:51

Nah, hell no, I'm staying right there. I'm stuck. I'm stuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:55

Oh, I'm gonna move on because I'm first my my my PTSD is kicking, and I can smell the urine up for some reason. I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:03

Uh anyway, war in any form is complex. Take or taxing and deadly for friends and foes. It's nothing to joke around about. Miss me with all the jokey jokes, Samel. Amen to you. That's what that's what I'm talking about, bro. Like, that's how I know these people ain't never been nowhere, they just want to put on a uniform like it's a fucking Halloween costume and put it on goddamn TV. Because if you've really been somewhere, you know it's nothing to joke around with. Amen to you, brother Samel, amen to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:37

Yep, hey, yeah. That's I think that really well, I will admit it was a funny video, but when I think about everything they say in there, maybe I'm taking this the wrong way, but I almost took offense to it because, like, they mentioned, like, uh, you know, World War II, what we did to you. Now, there's gonna be some people. I'm curious, does anyone is anyone not offended or think the video is funny? I'm curious.

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SPEAKER_05 1:11:02

I don't think it's funny, I think it's stupid, I think it's ignorant and shows to the fact of why we need leaders and supervisors. Because no way in hell would you or Samel or anybody else let me post a video like that? I would be in somebody's office the next morning, like, bro, what in the hell? Let me educate you on war. Let me educate you on why I hate to say it, but why we have an Elizabeth Jacobs award. Let me educate you on this. Because there's a form of education that's not happening. Now, if you want to post your video and sure, it's cool with the music and everything. Like you did your little rap video, good to go. Got you, got you on that level. But to post it, like, how are you gonna be when you go to Iran? Man, get the fuck out of here. You just look stupid. You and you are if you are just a civilian in high school, cool, do that. But you are representing the United States of America, you are representing the United States Army in that format, or the Air Force, or whoever, and your career field. Don't play around because you think if you think you're going over there like that, wait till you really get there and the situation happens. Now I want to see you like that. It's easy to talk when you're at homeland, don't have a real gun, you can use your arms as guns and sit there and act like you dang Call of Duty. You can't respond, big homie. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:25

So this helps with context for me because I remember a couple of shows back, I was just throwing out my dissatisfaction for some of these videos that make fun of security forces. And some of y'all were saying, Oh, it's comedy, it's funny, and I said it makes us look bad, or whatever. But on the flip side, for this one, you just vehemently put out there how disappointed you are in this video because it represents the the United States, the military. So, your issue with this video is it's talking about a sensitive topic like war, whereas the other videos depicting security forces, you're saying because it's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:04

Correct. That that is so far, that is so false from reality. Yeah, and if they were making fun of something that really happened, I would be just as disappointed. But nothing, but they know there's nothing funny about that. Coming through the gate and somebody being like, Stay warm when it's cold as hell outside, that's funny. Because that really happens if we know that you know, how the hell am I supposed to stay warm? It's it's minus 32 out here, or stay dry when it's how how how so that's funny. But for this, like you said, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:38

What do you think the leadership should do to these to these soldiers? Educate, no, no, like letter reprimand or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

Because it's not gonna all that's gonna do is create more more viral moments, just educate them.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:51

Uh, I disagree. I think the fact I think they've already been educated. They have a public affairs policy in every branch. They already seen cases of other military members doing viral videos for different topics. I think in this case, they should get a letter of reprimand because when they made this video, right? Don't know when it was made, but it must have been it must have happened when we started going to war with each other.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:19

Yeah, pretty recent.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:20

We lost six service members, six, all army, too, army reservists, and they make this video, right? They need to be dealt with. I'm not saying they're the fault of why we unfortunately lost these six service members, but this is not a time to be joking when the country is really at war and people are put in harm's way. Nobody, and no, not only that, they not even fuck over there, right? They're at the motor pole. That's what I'm saying. They shouldn't be saying shit right now. We had some crazy defenders out there in Villad that will make little jokes about the folks lobbing mortars and rockets at it, but at least they're in the shit, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:02

They're not even in the shit, and they're making jokes. So remember when we were in Villad, and I forgot his name, I forgot two people's names. I think Burke was one of them, but they made that video of us dancing. You remember they went to each part of the oh the oh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:21

Yeah, no, I don't even talk about always so freaking mad when I found that exactly. I was freaking because I'm thinking, like, when you was doing this, I didn't do it. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, the lejos, yes, Burke, yes, thank you. Um Grant who else, Vallejos, Burke, Grant, that month. You know what, Grant? Yeah, when y'all was making that freaking video, what was going on at the time? We're getting bob that we were all. I want to move on. I'm getting pissed off. So Brady says, send them to the VA. Uh send them to the VA, have them engage with the with true war heroes in an LOR. I agree. More facts. Samel says, DC, it looked like they were in some sort of formation. Where the hell is the leadership? Exactly. That's why they need a letter of reprimand and foot in their ass. It's ridiculous. Dell says, joining late. Did you guys see the marine in the court? Oh, we saw that the marine in the courtroom.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

Yeah, he got his arm broke. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:31

I'm gonna try to pull up the video while you continue talking.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:34

The leadership was probably la, yeah. Aunt B, SB, a great point. The leadership was probably was because they probably just as old as them, or it probably have never, and that's and you know what? I'm not gonna put his name out there, but I had a talk with a young NCO, and he said the problem now is the war experience is pretty much zero. Pretty much zero, and that's the problem. When I was coming up, man, remember I came after 9-11, so everybody has been to war, especially security forces. They at least been once, or they would have been in the missile field the whole time, and now it's their first time they haven't. But man, there was nothing to play around with, it was nothing to joke around with because, like to Philly's point, people were dying, like and then to be stationed at Dover and doing humanitarian escorts where you were getting the caskets sent in every effing day, three, four times a day, six, seven caskets on each plane. Man, ain't nothing to play around with, man. Like, it just shows the humility or the lack of humility, I guess, of being in the military. I guess. All right, go ahead. You you must have it pulled up.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:46

Yeah, yeah, I got the clip if you want me to play it. You ready?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

Nope. Okay, just let me know when you're ready. Uh there you go. Go ahead and put it back up. All right, hold on. Let's see.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:58

All right, yo, y'all check this video out, man. Is it the right one, Sean?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:01

No, it doesn't show them right now. You gotta share. Okay. Share, okay. All right. All right, go ahead and show you.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:10

That's the wrong one. I'm sorry. Hold on, hold on, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:14

But uh let's try to see. Yeah, this marine video. I I I I'm gonna have to watch it again because I didn't find it too appeal or too crazy. Uh, and Samel got a question off topic. We'll get to it. Show this video and we'll get to it. All right, ready? I'm ready. You ready? Yeah. Okay, you can see it. Yep.

unknown 1:18:30

All right.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:31

Stand up as a marine! Stand up.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:48

Why are you here? Why are you getting to us?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:51

From the halls of Manazoo Plus of Triple E.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:54

From the halls of Palestine will be free. Um, we just witnessed uh a Marine veteran interrupting the hearing, and uh they broke his arm. Why did he intervene? Because there is a war in Iran, and our military brothers and sisters are going to die for Israel.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:18

Okay, I'm gonna stop it there. Okay. So here's the all right, so at first I was angry because I felt like they did this dude dirty. He's a Marine in uniform, he deserved to be, you know, a lot more respect than that. And then Hansa, I didn't see this other part of the video. It's not like a publicity stunt. And then the lady gets up there, oh blah blah blah, we shouldn't be. First of all, we soldiers, we don't get a chance or an opportunity to decide when or if the right way to go to war or not. We don't get to decide that. Now, we have an opportunity not to follow orders if we believe that they are immoral or they're illegal, and even then there's procedures for that, but we don't get even more so to be in uniform and on camera and talk about not we shouldn't be in a specific war.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:16

Yeah, I think that's the best way to sum it up. Uh I don't know if he's active duty reservist, I don't know if he's retired, I have no idea his status. Uh I I hate to say it, and and people are gonna probably be upset at me for saying this. He got his hand broke because he left it in the door because he was trying to if I if I could use my security forces uh terminology, he was trying to be actively resistant, uh, or passively resistant, I guess. No, act that's actively resistant, uh, to trying to get kicked out. You put your hand in the thing, you got your hand broke. What you want me to like? What was that the problem? He was being escorted out for interrupting a hearing, which you shouldn't be interrupting, a hearing, wrong place, wrong time. They were trying to escort you out. You were being actively resistant, you grabbed onto the stupid thing and got your hand broke. That's not even the that you being stupid. That's the best way I can say it. Like, play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. You're a stupid prize that you got your hand broke. He brought mustage dishonor to the core uh by what he did. Yeah, he must be a marine right here. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like, what are you doing, big dog? Wrong place, wrong time. Wrong place, wrong time.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:34

Yeah, I'm sure there has been um all kinds of different conflicts that we have been involved in as um military personnel we didn't agree with, but we still went off and we did our job. They always say, like, one thing about military personnel, we fight for each other. We may not like the war that we're in, but we fight for each other. So that's not the time or place. It's bad enough the country is divided when it comes to war. The last thing we need is somebody in uniform to do it too.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:05

Right. Yeah. Uh Samel got a quick question off topic, and then we can move on to the last thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:10

Yeah, um, we got a new segment, it looks like it's called Investigator Reporting from UPC Family. So, according to Samel Brown, Investigative Reports, he says, question off topic. I've been retired for three years now. She's time flies. But Samel Brown says, But I came through the gate last week, interested to see what base it was, and a staff sergeant was checking IDs with an umbrella during morning rush gate traffic. It was wrinkling outside. That's what we're doing now. Hey, I'm retired. I don't know. That's some new stuff. Where's this chief boot for was the umbrella an OCP pattern? Maybe it was off.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:56

Wait, was somebody else holding the umbrella? Like uh Bentley, like holding it for them, or were they holding it?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:03

Did it have the defender patch on them? Maybe that's what it was, or better yet, Samel. Here's the most important question for you did they give the security forces greeting? Exactly. They tell you fight on, fight. Welcome to fill in the base, blah blah blah. Fights on, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:23

Did they say that? Yes, because that's important. I don't know why you're paying attention to the umbrella. We need to make sure that it was yellow, so it wasn't even it wasn't even tactical. Wait, wait, wait. That could be the squadron color, that could be the squadron.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:39

That is a little bit of defensive forest in there. There's a little yellow in there. There you go. Oh, yeah, that's that's fair.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:45

Yeah, there you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:47

You're gonna get great point.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:49

I can't wait to make it short for this.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:52

Please tell me the base. Let's give credit where credit.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:55

No, don't base. Don't don't don't get hey. If you want to know the base, put in the chat. Give us the base. Don't say nothing about the base.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:08

So Samel, I must admit, Pete, how long you been retired now? About two months now?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:13

Yeah, 60 days.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:15

I've been retired about a week. Am I missing something? I thought morale umbrella.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:24

He said the SF greeting standard is diabolical, but did he give it? That's all we care about.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:30

I just want to know, like, Paul, last I checked, can you agree? I think the proper uniform for folks involved in inclement weather is a poncho or a Gore-Tex, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:44

Maybe it changed to a morale umbrella.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:46

He said, Where do I live? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:51

So Chad, you're out there. Chad, is it your base? I hope not.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:56

That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:57

That's because Chad is a defender, so it can't be his base.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:01

As long as they say fights on, that's all that matters. Pink umbrellas and did he have did he have an M18 or did he have a squirt gun? Like, which booth did he have on his? Was he filling up the gun by holding it outside? Like, did he have a squirt gun?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:20

So now the chat has spoken. They want to know the base.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:23

Was it an augment gun? Give us the baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:30

No, he mustn't know dang augmentat.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:33

Dang, joined at 21, retired at 60. Holy.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:39

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:40

Big yeah, you got me, B, brother. I don't even know what that word is. Somewhere Florida, three minutes from said base. So he said, Google it. I don't know what that word is. Come on, oh boo. Look, Philly be trying to put you in bad predicaments. No, no. No, he's retired. It don't matter. He's retired. Some people wait. Some people look.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:05

All right, I'm gonna Google it right now. I would tell y'all. I'm gonna Google it.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:08

That's fine. Yeah, you have fun. Oh, it's Herbert Field. It's Herbert Fields. Oh no, that's a Spec Ops base. Yeah, you definitely oh yeah, that sounded about right. He probably had a squirt gun in. He probably had the super soaker. If he's Spec Ops, he didn't have a piss.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:24

Spec ops don't come after me. I didn't say that he did.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:27

Hey, he probably had the super soaker.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:29

He did.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:29

Yeah, the super soaker 2026, 27, the joint that ain't even out yet. Yeah, oh yeah, if it's Spec Ops, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:40

Somebody dropped in the chat the 2903 that says you use an umbrella when you under some else said nah the other one.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:46

So it wasn't Herbie.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:48

Okay. It's either Eglin or um Tyndall? Tindall. Oh I can believe it was Tyndall though.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:58

Yeah, Tyndall, yeah. I thought it would be MD.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:59

It more likely it was Tyndall.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:00

I thought it'd be McDeal. You know, they called McDeal McDisney.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:03

Oh, I forgot about McDill.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:04

Yeah, but McDill.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:05

They call McDill what?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:06

McDisney. McDisney. I never heard that one. Oh, Ferrara said Eglin. Eglin. Eglin. Eggland. Man, I think that's Chair's spot. I don't I don't know if he's this came across you too. I'll stick around, see what y'all say. I appreciate that, Howard. And congratulations on your retirement. You said age 60. I mean 21 to 60 is kind of kind of crazy. Uh, yeah, so Eglin is the base uh that uh carries yellow umbrellas. Uh I'm sorry that happened to you, but Samel, did he say fights on? That's what we need to know. That's the most important part of this conversation is Diddy say fights on. If he didn't say hello, welcome to joint based blah blah blah. Fights on. If he didn't say that, we have problems. I don't care about the umbrella, did he? Say fights on. Did he let you know fights on? Nobody cares about everything else. What's the fight on?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:15

Oh man. Leave it to Sabelle to bring it. Leave it up to Sabelle, boy. Hey, hey, this should be a segment. Hey, let's take a report. Hey, if you guys out there, you see some stuff that looks a little squirrely unusual. Feel free to bring it up to us. We'll bring it up on this show. It will give you proper credit. This report coming straight from yours truly, Samel Brown.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:47

Our job is to protect y'all. Our job is to protect. Hey, senior Harrison, make sure it's your base when you go there, they say fights on. But you go in. And the fight is really, the fight is on two. Oh, the fight is really on to it. Everybody better be saying at the gate. Yep. Yep. Yes, once a month segment. Yeah, for real. That's all we can take is once a month. Hopefully, there's no more buffoonery than that. That's crazy. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:21

Anyway. All right. So we're going to bring it home to the last topic. Pete has an interesting fact or question we want to pose out to you guys. I'll let I'll roll it over to Pete.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:31

Yeah, so uh, oh my goodness, I just deleted it. Hold on. Perhaps not. No, no, we will. We will. I gotta get back into it. I gotta get so uh let me, it was yesterday. Let me find it because I know it would be in my history. Dang, I looked up stream deck so much yesterday. Goodness gracious. Uh let me find it. Give me a second. Give me a second. Here we go. See, I didn't take too long.

SPEAKER_07 1:30:03

Nah.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:03

All right. So we have a question, and I'm going to pose this question to Philly. And I think we talked about, I think we talked about this, and he doesn't know the answer. But I think it'd be a great segment that we do, and it's gonna be, you know, top 10. And this one is interesting. Uh, I think we agreed on this, and tell me if we didn't, tell me if we didn't, correct me if I'm wrong. But uh in the NFL, they have base we did base salaries, correct? Was it base salaries? Yeah, they have top 10 base salaries of all time, all time. I want you to see how many names you can guess on the top 10 of base salaries of all time. Nope, you can give me any order you want. I'll tell you if you're right or wrong. You get three wrong answers, and I'll just give you the names. But top 10, here's what I'll say: I'll give you a hint. They are all quarterbacks. This of all time, of all time, top 10 base salaries.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:06

And y'all, hey, feel free, y'all put in the chat if y'all think y'all know who it is, or just throw out a name or whatever. Okay, I get three chances, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:31:16

Yeah, so you get three chances, and so if you get one right, of course, that doesn't count as a chance, but if you get it right, it counts as a chance.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:22

Okay, so I will go with first um Brett Favre.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:28

Brett Favre is not on the list.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:31

Okay, uh, Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning is not on the list. What? Okay, so I get one more choice. Okay, you are somebody's oh, somebody said Deshaun, somebody else said Deshaun Watson. Is Deshaun Watson one? No, Deshaun Watson is not one. Oh no, I didn't care. All right, all right. Let me give you mine and then we'll call it and I'll get it wrong. Uh let's see. Dang near. All right, 10 seconds.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:56

Um this is easy. You should get one easy.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:04

Patrick Mahomes.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:05

Patrick Mahomes is not one.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:08

What?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:08

Not all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:09

What was it? What did I miss?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:11

Just think about who is okay. Just think about quarterbacks this year. Just think about quarterbacks this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:19

So they're all from there from them from the past, huh?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:21

No, I mean, this is based out of talent. So Lamar Jackson? Lamar Jackson is number two. 51,250,000.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:34

And he has not won a friggin' Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:36

Number two. Uh, you know what Bakes. I wait. Let me go through this. Let me make sure none of these quarterbacks have won a suit. Oh, one one quarterback has won a super bowl. Two, two, two, two, won the super bowl. Two. Okay. Two.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:49

I know Tom Brady's not on there.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:51

Tom Brady's not on here. Somebody's on here twice. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:54

Somebody's on there twice? Yeah. Somebody said Nick Foles.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:58

Nick Foles is not on there. This is crazy. I didn't think y'all beat us off.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:02

Okay. So I did get one right. Lamar Jackson. All right, I'll give me one more. I didn't. You say it wasn't Patrick Mahomes. No. Only two quarterbacks has won the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:11

Who is who is the quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons? Right now? No, the one that we the stupid signing that we have.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:23

Oh, uh you mean Cal Murray? No, Carl Murray.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:29

My first cousin. Tell us who it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:31

Just tell us who it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:32

My first cousin. Uh Dak Prescott. I didn't even think of that. Dak Prescott. Okay, Dak Prescott is number eight at 31 million. Kirk Cousins is number 10 at 27 million when he signed with Minnesota in 2019. Yeah. Are you ready for this? You would never have gotten this. Ryan Tannehill, number nine. Ryan Tannehill. 29 million dollars. 29 million dollars. Uh, you did say one name already for Arizona. Kyle Murray. Kyle Murray's number six. He's gone.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:09

I think he's going to Minnesota.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:10

He got released. 37 million dollars. Uh, a quarterback he uh plays in the AFC, I think it's East. They play against the Patriots, left-handed quarterback. Tua? Tua Taka La Pala Poto.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:25

He got released too.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:26

I think he got released too. He's number three at 39 million.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:31

Number three. Wow. Uh, I will I won't. There's somebody on here twice. He he got he was on this, he was on the Giants and got released from the Giants. Oh, Russell Wilson. No. Sorry. Russell Wilson is on here. He's number four. He's not on here twice. He's number four when he signed with Denver, 39 million dollars. The other quarterback that got signed to the Giants and then got released and then plays for the Colts. Oh, Danny Dobbs. Daniel Jones. He's number seven and number five. He signed a$35 million comment and a 37. So the one you're missing is number one. I'm gonna let you guess. He's a current quarterback and he plays for the same team he got the base salary with.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:21

All right, one more hint. Did they win? He didn't win the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:24

Nope, not a Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:27

Dang, y'all put in the chat who y'all think it is.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:29

He said, What the hell you call two? Tua Taka Lafid La Flower.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:34

All right, get us one, give us the the the hint one more time.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:38

Jarvis got it. Jarvis got it right.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:40

Jarvis, let me see. He oh, uh wait a minute. He put five down there.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:46

It ain't Dak Prescott. Oh no, he didn't. He didn't get it right. I'm sorry, he didn't get it right. I was gonna shoot. Uh, so he plays for the current team. This team made the playoffs last year and missed the playoffs this year, and it's a big controversy because they let a lot of their picks or let a lot of their coaches go. Jared Goff. Jared Goff, number one. 55 million dollars. 55 million dollars. Hold on, Joe Burrow ain't not on there. Joe Burrow is not on the top 10.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

Wow, that's crazy work. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:26

This is just base salaries. This is just base salaries. So before people start roasting me, is base salaries. Wow. That says a lot right there.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:36

So the only quarterback on this list to win the Super Bowl was what?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:39

Jared Goff. Didn't he win one? Goff ain't win no Super Bowl. I thought he won with the Rams. No, that was Stafford. Oh, shoot, you're right. They let Goff go and got Stafford. You're right. So yeah, the only one is Wilson.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:56

Wilson's the only one who won the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:58

Yep. Wow. Joe Burrow was number 14 and number 15, back to back. Both 25 million dollars. He got it in 25 and 26. You know who's number 13? Geno Smith with the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:17

Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins was on here twice with Atlanta and when he got signed with the uh when he got the uh franchise tag.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:26

I like Kirk Cousins. He don't never get no credit.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:29

Yep. Anyway, that's our top 10. So we'll do more of these. I like that y'all participated, man. It's always good to do these, man. We we could do uh the the interesting one, the interesting one is signing bonuses. That is interesting, and it's top 10 signing bonuses of all time, of all time. And the funny thing is one, two, three, four. All our quarterbacks, all our quarterbacks except for one. And how many have won Super Bowls? Oh, this is interesting. One, two, three, three have won Super Bowls out of ten. Four. Four have won Super Bowls out of ten. Interesting.

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Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:09

So we got a topic for next Sunday. Uh credit for credit for what?

SPEAKER_04 1:38:20

Credit for Robin T. I think maybe somehow Russell Wilson, maybe.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:23

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe Wilson Mahomes. Yeah, Wils uh Wilson was not in here. Or I'm sorry, Watson. Watson. Dak wasn't there. Dak wasn't there.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:33

Oh, he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:35

Base salary just talking about base salary. So when you look at uh Mahomes' base salary, he got the biggest contract over time, but his base salary from year to year was not up there. Let me see where he's at. I don't really know where the freak he is at. He wasn't even really up there at all. Dang, uh he's way down there. Holy moly, hold on. Let me go quarterback. He's not even top 20 in quarterbacks. Oh, you were guessing at the signing bonus. Yeah, the signing bonus, you're pretty accurate. Yeah, you're signing bonus. Man, I didn't know I see my homes in the top 20. Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:20

Oh, he Terrell was talking about my comment about Kirk Cousins. I mean, Kirk, man, he just he man, that's Captain Kirk. Captain Comeback Kirk, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:32

Chief just restructured uh uh Mahomes contract too. And restructure Dak's contract. Anyway, great topic. We have a topic for next Sunday. Like we said, uh, we will talk about the promotion thing over the AI thing. I think that's great. Man, what a great idea. Samel, you weren't here for that, but I hope you're here next Sunday because it'd be a good topic to have you on for. But uh yeah, uh it's gonna be a great show next week. I can already see it because I got a lot to things say about our promotion system.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:05

Ooh, we, ooh, we yeah, so we will probably make that the headliner for the show and maybe spend a lot of time on that one because that's a lot to unpack. So, as we said earlier, if you've got some comments or you want to talk about some of your stories that maybe you were a victim of not getting promoted, getting bad feedback, ambiguous feedback, we'd love to hear your story. Welcome to we'll have you on for a couple of minutes to talk about it. And just like Brady, if you have some ideas, let us know. But my goal is I'm gonna take one or two records, I'm going to create a GPT, and I'm gonna throw the records in there and see what board scores fits out. And then I will talk a little bit, I'll touch a little bit on that next week.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:56

Is there any way you can get the board charge for this year? Or it's not out yet.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:59

Oh, yeah, I'm sure I can find it. It doesn't, it really doesn't change, I don't think. It's very vanilla.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:07

Okay, I've seen it before, but uh, I'm sure it's very vanilla. Airman NCO page. But uh, all right. Anyway, great show, great topics. Uh, thank y'all for tuning in. We'll see y'all next week. Uh, thank y'all for all commenting and coming in. Uh, and I need to do a lot of stuff before we get out, so I'm just gonna close it off by saying thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:29

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