Pack You Up For That Hot Take; LeBron James to 76ers; WNBA IS over

We start with a small question about cologne at work and end up arguing what respect looks like, from how you show up around coworkers to what fans should expect from pro athletes. Along the way we break down the WNBA All Star product, the money behind all star weekends, and a blunt debate about accountability when leaders fail the same standards they enforce. 

•Cologne at work as a signal, not just a scent 
•Uniform life, hygiene basics, and why over spraying backfires 
•WNBA All Star weekend ideas worth copying 
•Reaction to highlight quality and what fans pay for 
•Revenue, attendance, and the “deserve more money” argument 
•Whether commanders and chiefs should appear on PT failure slides 
•Transparency vs discretion and what accountability really means 
•How readiness standards differ from other standards 
•Why discipline varies by AFSC and mission risk 
•LeBron to the Sixers hype, bench depth, chemistry, and health 
•Jordan vs LeBron vs Kobe takes and all time position picks 

Transcript

Banter And The Cologne Debate

SPEAKER_03 0:00

And if he didn't go to the Sixers, you'd be saying the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 0:04

Hey, he's got yo, he was trash until he joined the Sixers.

SPEAKER_03 0:07

That's funny. Yeah, that's crazy. Wow. We'll talk about that later. We'll talk about that when more people get on. But good Sunday, yo, we're talking about cologne, man. Can you tell everybody what you say?

SPEAKER_05 0:25

Oh, you try to put my business out on the street, man. I just think it's crazy. Like, I never worked at work. That is wild. Never wore. Here's I here's a reason why. Several reasons. One, I never wore cologne at work because one, it's well, it's kind of a half reason because when I was younger, when I was younger ranking, didn't really apply, but when I gained more rank, I noticed like what I didn't want to do, because you know, I'm a handsome dude, you know. I'm saying I look pretty good. I didn't want people to get the wrong idea, and they're like, Oh, he smelled good, whatever. So I didn't want to wear any cologne for that. Two, I always felt like you know, between my hygiene, deodorant, soap, I'm gonna naturally smell great anyway, so I don't need no cologne, and plus, most people, unlike unlike most people, I have multiple uniforms. I had about 12-13 sets of OC and different variations, okay. Okay, different variations, right? Okay, so I would rotate OCPs or uniforms out every other day. What I don't understand is people who wear cologne and they wear the same OCP the whole week. I don't get it, especially if you're not in the office. Said pack you up, man. You a little funky underneath the OCP jacket.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:42

Not only that, I just felt like yo, um I'm not going to the club, I'm going to work.

SPEAKER_03 1:51

But I gotta especially if you're an office worker or gotta go to a lot of meetings, like you're in close proximity with a lot of people. Now, I'm not saying you gotta smell like you're in the club, I'm not saying you gotta smell like you just came out of a dang uh uh cologne shop, yeah. But I mean, you spray some like I told you before, when I knew I had a meeting coming up, I sprayed some off before I went in the commander's office, spray some on. Nah, man, nah, it was before I went to lunch, spray some on. When I got back from lunch, spray some on. Dude, come to work musty, yeah, exactly. Uh, but nah, I mean, I just found that I when you were a security force and we gotta wear all the gear, it doesn't even matter. You you mixing stank with cologne. That that's not a good look. But as you came up in ranking in meetings all the time, talking to high-level people going out, even when you're not meetings, like so. Wait a minute, when you had after work functions, did you go out or did you wear put up with all I wore cologne then?

SPEAKER_05 2:53

Yeah, yeah, I would never in uniform. I never wore cologne, never in uniform, not even blues. No, I did in blues, yeah. Okay, you know, that's you know, I just felt like that was a different environment, but not in Ocp. That's that is too much.

SPEAKER_03 3:09

You spray one in the morning, and when you nah, I gotta spray all the time. What's up, Tony? Yes, not you for breezing your hey, a lot of people do, a lot of people do, yeah, yeah, yeah. I done that before, I ain't gonna lie. I sprayed for breeze when I was deployed.

SPEAKER_05 3:30

I was just you know, my I love my my oldest son to death, man, my junior, and he's guilty of that. He sprays too much cologne, and it is to the point where it engulfs you, like it just smacks you in the face. That's why I'm always very careful not to spray a lot of cologne. Gooch, what's up, man?

SPEAKER_03 3:53

You're retarded, you're retarded, but uh let's get to these topics and we'll go around real quick. First of all, I want to talk about let me know if my mic is messing up too. Sorry about the internet, we'll have it fixed next week, promised.

WNBA All Star Weekend Bright Spots

SPEAKER_03 4:05

You didn't watch it. The WNBA All-Star game was yesterday. Friday, they had the three-point contest, and uh let me give the WNBA flowers first. They had the three-point contest, and they had like the little skills shooting where they shoot around, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, so they did that. Well, they brought in high school players, uh, one for each team. There were four teams, a high school player to play with them. I thought that was dope. I thought that was dope. So they got to shoot around with them. I thought that was really cool. So they had a WNBA player, a retired WNBA player, and a high school player. I saw the girls nail nailed the three-point contest. That is all I saw. I mean, that's my girl right there. Don't talk about my girl, that's my girl, AZ FUD. That's my girl, but uh, they call him pretty Pete for sure. I'm light skinned, it might be some light skinned stuff, but uh, so yeah, I think the NBA should have done that. I always said that they should have always brought in like a high school player to play with the NBA's all-stars. I thought that'd be cool.

SPEAKER_05 5:19

I guess I'm a purist. I missed the good old days where it was just east versus west.

SPEAKER_03 5:25

Oh, well, this is Friday, you know, the day before where they they usually have the rookies versus all uh uh rookies versus god dog it, uh sophomores game, and then three-point contest, dunk contest, of course. WNBA dunking, uh, so ain't no point in having that. Uh look, that was WBA dunk contest. Yeah, of course. I mean, she actually was a nice dunk, very nice for six, I guess. But they made don't worry about it. I want to show now that you brought up, let me show you highlights from WMA All-Star. I'm gonna accommodate the commentate these while we're watching them, and you ain't seen this, so we're gonna get you a live reaction as well.

Live Reactions To WNBA Highlights

SPEAKER_03 6:16

All right, so this is the look WBA All-Star Game Highlights, right? This first shot down here. This is Gabby Williams, very good player, taking the shot. Let me make sure the the volume's off all right. It is shooting, oh shit, air ball, bruh coming down later. Hallelujah, alley oop. Do you think she made it? Do you think she made it? No, not only did she miss, she didn't get the rebound. Coming down, wide open layup, throw it off the backboard, duh. Oh wide open layup. Oh, this is Asia Wilson, miss. Get it back, get it back. Ball gets thrown out of bounds. Yo, this turnaround jumper. This is Khalil Copper. This is a this is a women's Olympic player, right here. A women's Olympic player. Let me go back before I mess it up. Oh, alright, mess it up. Turn around jumper. Loses the ball, comes back, got some ball, wide open shot. Angel Reese coming down the lane, straight down the middle. Nobody in her way. Blocked. What the hell was that? Oh, don't worry, it gets worse. It gets worse. Gets a wide open layup. Take a look at your right side of the screen. Take a look at your right side of the screen. Angel Reese getting helped up because she fell over her own feet. Is that Angel Reese or Aja Wilson? That's Aja Wilson in the blue. Aja Reese is in the in the pink. Angel Reese is in the pink. I thought Aja Wilson was the one with the pink hair. No, that's Angel Reese. Oh, okay. Oh, it gets better. Oh, it gets way better. It gets way better. Don't worry about it. This is the girl who dunked. This is the girl who dunked right here. All right, let's look at this. Brick, don't worry, I got it back. How the hell do you airball that? How do you airball this? Look at the brick, brick, airball. How do you airball that? How do you airball that? How is that even remotely possible? This is the WNBA All-Star game. This is what people played upwards of $600 to a thousand dollars for to watch this. You know, they gave 60 seats, they upgraded 60 seats because nobody was sitting in the front row. 60 6-0. Let me put this in perspective because people were talking about the NBA. And we're just gonna let these bloopers run, what they call the NBA WNBA highlights.

Revenue, Ticket Prices, And Pay

SPEAKER_03 9:20

The NBA All-Star Game is coming out to Phoenix next year. You know how much the city is gonna make from them coming out? How much? 400 million dollars for the WNBA doing that. No, no, no, for the NBA All-Star game for three days. 400 million. You know how much Chicago made for the WNBA coming out for two days? There's really three, but we'll just say two. How much? 40 million.

SPEAKER_05 9:53

Do you see the difference? I mean, yeah, I mean, it's not surprising. I mean, the the two different leagues are far apart when it comes to impact and performance and talent. So it's not surprising. I mean, are you saying like the I mean they're not these are bad highlights, I'll admit, but going to the comments, I mean, Tony is like, stop acting like they don't do the same garbage in the NBA all-star game.

SPEAKER_03 10:22

So I looked up the NBA bloopers, all I saw was miss dunks. Not this crap, not this. How you airball a wide open shot a foot from the rim when you're six foot going back to Shaq's point, lower the freaking hoop?

SPEAKER_05 10:42

Are you gonna say that this is an all-star game, though? I mean, it's they're not really waiting.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

But then how do you miss this? How do you miss this? How do you airball that? It's a pickup game. I have look at this. I now air balls like that. I'll give you that. That happens all the time. Alley oop. Why the hell did you think you were gonna get that alley oop? Throw it off the backboard. When has that ever happened? Wide open layup, miss here, miss. Don't worry, we'll get it back to you. Stolen. This is why the WMB, and these are supposed to be the best of the best. Best of the best. Tony Bossick, I'm not being disrespectful. This this is why you can't have men in women's leagues. Look at that. She's laughing at her. She's laughing at her. She told in the press conference, I wasn't even trying to block that. I just had my hands up, make it look like I was playing defense. Horrible. Horrible. I'm done. WNBA deserve more money.

SPEAKER_05 11:53

I mean, after what we just saw, do you think they really deserve more money, Tony? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_03 11:58

Tony, I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna lose my freaking mind.

SPEAKER_05 12:02

I would love to hear your rationale. I'm not saying I disagree with you, I'm just saying, how can we justify paying them more money for this type of performance?

SPEAKER_03 12:13

I'm gonna lose when they couldn't even sell out the stadium for an all-star game. They didn't even sell out the stadium, they upgraded 60 seats. When have you ever heard of an NBA upgrading their seats for an all-star game? They might upgrade one or two. 60 60 tickets got upgraded. There was only 19,000 people there.

SPEAKER_05 12:45

I think Tony's right. They did get more money, but probably not this amount of money they originally wanted.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Oh, yeah, they got a lot more money. And you know what? That's gonna bankrupt the league. The league is just is gonna go bankrupt because of it. As soon as the NBA stops subsidizing them, they're bankrupt. They're bankrupt.

SPEAKER_05 13:04

So you don't think the W I'm I would I wish I had the numbers here, but I'm curious to see if they're doing better at this point now versus at the same point last year. Because you can make the argument, they've got some good players, young players, yes, as making some you know, between Paige Beckers, as he was FUD, AZ FUD, AZ FUD or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

So they're good players.

SPEAKER_05 13:31

Now, Sophia Cunningham. Now Fisa Sophia, Sophia Cunningham is awesome, man. She's WNBA.

SPEAKER_03 13:41

Her shoe released, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

She had a shoe, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:44

All right, go ahead. She's good anyway. Um, I don't think they deserve more money. I think you could almost argue that it's highway robbery for some of the players, that they even getting paid this much money for this, and it kind of goes back to the argument with the NBA, too. Stop effing around with people, fans, watching this stuff and paying money. Y'all need to find a way to make the all-star game more relevant and put competition in it. Back to the Kobe days where they were like guarding you like the dang finals was on the line, right? It's bullish shooting around. I can go to the gym for that, right? These people that pay money in all in all-star games, especially the NBA, to see bullish people throwing up bricks, you know, they're not guarding each other, whatever, and they score 150 points. Where's the fun in that? Right, you're 100% right. You're pointing to the WNBA. Somebody said on there in the comments on Facebook, they was like they was getting on this guy because he was saying, Oh, so-and-so dumped, it must have lowered the rim. And it was like, Well, you can't you can't dunk the ball. News flash, he don't get paid to dunk the ball, he's a regular person, he's paying money to see you play. So if I'm paying you money to see you play, I want to see you play to your highest level. And these to your point earlier, these are all-star players, but they look like it in some cases last night. Some of them, it was some good highlights. Um, FUD winning the three-point contest was pretty cool. I did some of that, but that exchange you just showed trash, pack them up.

SPEAKER_03 15:26

Everything else was just three-pointers, and they call them logo threes. Like, that's like the new cool thing. Logo three. Oh, what's a logo? Logo when they shoot it from deep. That's what they call it now. Logo, and it all started with logo Lillard. That's what they started it because low because Lillard was hitting from the logo, which is like mid-court, it's like right in front of mid-court. It's all like, yo, they're shooting deep threes. Like, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_05 15:58

Tony, I I'm looking at your comment, I take it that you are 100% satisfied with the play of the WNBA. I'm curious. And if you are, is it because you're coming from the perspective of being a woman or an actual paying customer of watching the WNBA sports-wise?

SPEAKER_03 16:23

And it's interesting. You say that uh the Wizards won 17 games last year. She said, I'll be back with y'all to this time. She said, Ah, I'll be back with y'all on topic. Hey, we'll see you back. Hey, last year the wings won 10 games and Chicago won 10 games. So let's hold on.

SPEAKER_05 16:47

Wait a minute, let's hold on. You watch the WNBA over soccer, you mean over the the World Cup?

SPEAKER_03 16:54

Nah, he can't be talking about the World Cup.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

He can't be serious, drug test you, Rick. Drug test you. You can't be serious. He can't be talking about Tony.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

We'll switch. We'll switch topics because I'm not a WNBA. You know what? I'd like the players, and Philly know this more than a lot of people. I watch the game, I'd like players, Sonia Citron, Veronica Burton. He got sexual abuse, abused by WMA. He uses a platform to get back at her. I just said I watched the game. I watched the game. What up, Chad? I watched the game. It sucks. What do you want me to do?

SPEAKER_00 17:46

They suck. What do you want me to do?

SPEAKER_03 17:53

What you to do? Like for real. I don't get it. Like Shaq said, lower the hoop. And some of the players I like. Asia Wilson. I love Asia Wilson. Alicia Gray. Jackie Young. Paige Bankers, AZ FUD, uh Caleb McBride. I watch these girls. So it's not the girls, it's the league. The league is trash. So fire Engelbert, which hopefully this is her last season as the commissioner. Get a new commissioner. I'm not even saying a male or female, gay or straight, don't care. Get a commissioner in there and run the league correctly. You are not exploiting great talent. All right, we listen to our we listen to our viewers. Next topic. We listen to our viewers. We listen to our viewers. Thank y'all for indulging me for that topic. Thank you, Tony. The all-star game did so. All right, next topic, we're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. Did you see Joshua decide? Around KO? I thought talking about uh Anthony Joshua. I know he fought. I didn't pay for it because it was on pay-per-view. She's trying to change the topic. I already know what she's doing. But you want to bring up the next topic? I'm trying to look for this uh KO that he had. Oh yo,

Should Leaders’ PT Fails Be Public

SPEAKER_03 19:31

so question.

SPEAKER_05 19:31

I had a I had a phone call from an old troop, and he asked me, do you think uh they wouldn't go into detail, but let me ask you guys this. Do you think it's fair for a commander or a chief or shirt to fail their PT test or fail their waist test? And it doesn't get broadcast to the unit, meaning it doesn't go on the slides for people to see, you're not seeing it in the staff meeting, whatever. But everybody else, if you fail your tests or your waist measurement, it comes up on a slide and they track it. Do you think it's fair that commanders and chiefs and shirts in that regard are respected or or protected? I'm sorry. Put it in the comments.

SPEAKER_03 20:20

One, I don't think they should be failing, but if it does happen, I'll say I don't think it's fair. I think they should be on the slides like everybody else. Now it depends where. If you're talking about staff meet with the staff leadership, yeah, put it on the slides. Now, if you're talking about like commander's call, which they wouldn't put failures on commander's call slide, but somewhere like public like that, probably not that it discredits the commander, it discredits the chief, and it discredits the shirt. My opinion.

SPEAKER_05 20:54

Why would it not discredit them? So when you say discredit, what do you mean by exactly?

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Because they're expected, if you're leading an organization, to do those small things.

SPEAKER_05 21:06

Okay. So Tony, I'm curious. Do you feel like if you if you good point? Good point. Chad said, if you got a if you got a big back, they know you got a big back already. Put that shit on a slideshow. Here's my argument. I'm for it both ways. I think I think in some cases, you being a commander out of respect, you earn the ability of some discretion, right? I know it's just gonna be an unpopular opinion, but I I would imagine when folks in the CSS do it, they do it because they want, like, hey, look, you know, we're gonna protect the commander, you know, we don't want this commander to be embarrassed. This commander, nonsense out of ten, is showing up on different people's slideshows at the wing and at the Magiccom NAF level. And they like, look, they got a whole bunch of other stuff to deal with. This one is a small blight. Let's take care of this person. Whereas they look at everybody else, not the same responsibilities, whatever. I know y'all guys are gonna flame me for it and say shouldn't matter, but I'd imagine that's why they do it.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

I agree with Tony. If you're putting passes, you should be putting fails. If you could deal with the good, you definitely gotta deal with the bad. Never had one. If they did, it was in there. My name was on the dental list for six months. I stood on it because that dental section was like the WB. Okay, all right, Tony. We're moving on, or we're moving on. We're moving on. Both Tony's coming in hot. Transparency. Hey, we all have bad days. Yep, so you don't do that.

SPEAKER_05 23:01

But you can't say, I don't agree with when when people say you can't you can have bad days. The commander the commander and the chief and the shirt, you can't have bad days. We say you when let me let me let me clarify. We say you can, but you just said a few minutes ago, y'all shouldn't be failing anyway, right?

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Shouldn't be failing, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 23:24

So that's what I'm saying. So, like, and then even if a commander, chief or shirt, failed a PT test and they passed afterwards, you think they're gonna be able to escape that? It's still gonna be on people's minds, it's gonna continue. It's no different than you fail on the P S QC test and then you pass, they're still gonna remember the failure, so it's even more magnified for your leadership team.

SPEAKER_03 23:49

Uh and so answer interesting. The slides are for leadership, it's a snapshot on what the what's going on in the unit. It does not need to be on the leadership slides because they already know, but it's for the unit, it's for the unit.

SPEAKER_05 24:04

Why does a unit have to like Chad said?

SPEAKER_03 24:06

It's called accountability.

SPEAKER_05 24:08

Accountability takes different forms and shapes. True, true, true, true. I like that is that holding somebody accountable, putting them on the slide. It means that nobody, nobody's above the standard. I love see that's that's the key. The standard is the standard to throw people on the slides. This the slide is intended for your leadership to track, right? So if your leadership is the one that fails, who needs to track it? See what I'm saying? I love and hey, I love your response. I can see both sides of it now. If it's part of it, like case in point, you know how they have this, they used to have slides and maybe SF squadrons where they say, like those who failed AQC or whatever, right? And so the flight chiefs can see that makes sense, right?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

Well, the flight chief fails. Ah, contraire, good a touche touche. You would put that up there. You you should.

SPEAKER_05 25:22

But I would argue it falls in line with the same thing with the commander.

SPEAKER_03 25:27

Interested. Okay, let's say the slides was going to the wing commanders. Does that change things?

SPEAKER_05 25:33

No, no, you no, no, no, no. It does. And then so, in other words, if you're at the squadron level and a commander at the squadron level fails, nine times out of ten, the wing commander or at least the group commander is gonna know because that's their supervisor. So it is pointless to put them on the slide. Now, if the wing commander says, I want a slideshow of all the commanders in the wing and their PT stats, your troops won't see it, only the commander will see it. Maybe the deputy, command chief, that's it. Maybe the other commanders, but your airmen are not gonna see it anyway.

SPEAKER_03 26:09

Well, yeah, okay, so bro, how do you fail a PT test for real? Other than being legitimate, sick, or there's some there is no reason leadership should fail. Put your name on the here's the question, Tony.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

Reason why you cannot put these people on the list. We heard it twice here, Al Paul's. Because they can't, they shouldn't fail. Yeah, that's the point. I thought we said they're humans, right? People have bad days, right? So that means transparency, right? We talk about oh, transparency, everybody has a bad day, but then we have stuff like this. People fail. That's what happens, whether you're leadership or not, everybody fails. Some people I never failed a PT test. Thank the Lord, never did. I had some bad days though. There were days I looked at my watch and I was like, or I'm starting my crunches and I'm putting because I had some bad food last night, and I'm like, and they like they're like 30 seconds. I'm like so it had it can happen.

SPEAKER_03 27:26

Uh what up, Dale in the building. Dale, if you ever failed a PT test, would you want to put on the slides? I know you wouldn't care, but uh, question for you, Tony Bostik. If you're late on EPBs, do you think that should be on the slides? Or a decoration, I think that gets put on the slides, actually. They just say who it's sitting with. But oh, let it be. This is the trick. This is a difference. If it's sitting with the flight chief or a supervisor, they be like, push that thing up tomorrow. I want to see that thing tomorrow. But if it's sitting with the chief, the first sergeant, uh, first sergeant kind of depends on the squadron. If definitely if it's sitting with the chief or the commander, nobody says anything. Commander just be like, Oh, I'll get that out. So I think accountability, which to Chad's point, is right. Uh, if you're gonna so if the chief passes, do you think that should be on the list on the on the slides?

SPEAKER_05 28:29

I don't think either should be on the slide. I think it's pointless. Okay, at least you're saying at least so. Going back to their example I use, it's a the the the troop that called me, he said, and again, I preface this by saying I think Ant's saying this. Let me say what Ant's got to say, and it kind of relates to what he's saying. Ann said, before I retired, I did notice that more and more troops of all ranks felt the need to know everything going on in the unit, no matter how big or small. We have always heard that rank has its privileges. I don't always agree, but this is one of those situations. So, going to my point, the list that they have at the staff meeting is for tracking purposes, and this list for tracking purposes is only for folks that's in the room, i.e., your staff, i.e., your your mid-level leadership, maybe the flight chiefs for a security forces squadron, right? So who's it for tracking who? It's for tracking your leadership, right? And ultimately, who's the number one person that needs to know this? Your commander, maybe next year chief, your first sergeant, right? So if they fail, he's tracking already. It's not about protecting him or her, it's about look, hey, and nine out of ten, your CSS know if they failed because they're the ones, they're the ones that's giving out the test, either administering it, or well, let's be honest. No commander is going to the wing to take the test. Their CSS is doing it. Shout out to the CSS for actually failing him, and not only that, shout out for the commander for now holding against the CSS for failing them. So let's start there. So after he he or she failed, I don't want to give up too much information, but when they failed, the CSS is like, hey, they already know he failed. They ain't gonna sit there like, hey sir, just let you know, or ma'am, you failed your test. So now he knows, he knows what he's got, he or she's gotta do. So, why do we need to put it on a tracking slot?

SPEAKER_03 30:31

He knows already. Okay, a couple comments. Tony Boss says, Hell yes, that's how you fix garbage. Hiding it makes it look like that's you make a standard and cannot uphold it yourself. How is that hiding it? You know, Rick would be got something crazy to say when you get out, nobody gives a F if you pass mixed fail. It doesn't matter, but why you're in it matters. I don't even know what they slide or must be an air for definitely an Air Force thing. All right, let's see what Chad says. The PT test is a standard for of many. Why do we hold it to a different higher standard? If your hair is too long, question mark, failure to meet the standard. If your boots ain't blouse, failure to meet the standard. Why is PT held to a higher standard? Just curious. It's a standard of many.

SPEAKER_05 31:24

Perfect, true. Hey, hey, I've I've chat. I have subscribed to the same thought process. A standard is a standard. All this you you come to work late, point, Tony. Yeah, I don't see. You come to work, you in shade, you know. You fail a PT test. Oh, hellfire and brimstone, the world's coming to an end, you shit bag, or whatever. Well, I will say uh okay. Let me say this point when he says they didn't fail him, they failed themselves. What I'm what am I missing with that one?

SPEAKER_03 32:01

Because he's saying that the CS didn't fail them, they failed themselves. Okay, so let me so the key. Wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_05 32:08

This is key. The key point is when you say that I get that, Tony, but the key point is, and I've seen it many times where they will stretch the rules to ensure they pass. Yeah, yep. This CSS, and even more importantly, I'm assuming this commander decided hey, a spade is a spade. I didn't make whatever component, I failed. Shout out to both of them. And when we say they shouldn't do it, it shouldn't, but I guarantee you, it happens a lot, it happens a whole lot. This is a one-off, I guarantee you.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

This is what I was about to say. Tony took the words out of my

Standards, Readiness, And Real Accountability

SPEAKER_03 32:49

mouth. All standards are not the same. The only difference between PT is a readiness thing, it's a readiness thing. I don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 32:56

PT is a right, is PT not a readiness thing. Well, you're you being able to follow the standard, whatever standard is a readiness thing, too, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:03

Well, to a certain extent, but PT work on time, isn't that a readiness standard?

SPEAKER_05 33:08

Not to the past your PT test. Does that mean you're ready to go to work?

SPEAKER_03 33:13

No, that means that you're that means you're eligible to deploy.

SPEAKER_05 33:17

Because I I guarantee you, there's a lot of people that pass their tests, and you and you get them out there to do some stuff, they can't do it. That's true, which is another story. The PT standard in the Air Force is I'm gonna say it's weak because there's some people that's failing it, but it's not difficult.

SPEAKER_03 33:34

You see Rick Reviews comment.

SPEAKER_05 33:37

What do you say? What is an air force?

SPEAKER_04 33:43

Okay, stop, stop you, you stop, give other people a chance, okay.

SPEAKER_05 33:54

Oh my god, every week, Rick. Stop, ladies and gentlemen. Rick reviews has a comment of the day, and let me go back to what he said. Rick reviews says, What is an Air Force PT test? Around a ping pong and a light job? Question mark. Congratulations. Oh my god. You have comment of the day so far.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

The only reason is funny because I can see that being the truth. That's the only reason.

SPEAKER_05 34:24

I seen some, you know how you see those memes on Facebook. You see the Air Force people like there's an Air Force um Facebook meme of a guy coming out in a restaurant. It says Air Force, Air Force Dinner. And he comes out, he's got the little you know, napkin around his arm, like a Matre D, and he has a bottle of monster, white, white monster, right? The no-sugar one, and he's pouring it. And the Air Force guy is stirring around the mind glass, smelling very chat.

SPEAKER_03 34:57

Speaking of PT, I'm about to roll up in the gym and work on this. Okay, big back. We'll just leave it back. It's a must. Airmen are watching. I'm not ending up on any one slide. Some standards are tracked and some are not for a reason. We tripping. I agree with Tony B. I agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 35:18

I still think you know what, man, I still believe we put too much emphasis on PT. PT is important for your health. And when we say you don't, and just in my personal opinion, I wanted to make sure I didn't end up on any slide for any standard.

SPEAKER_02 35:38

That's true. That's right. Any standard.

SPEAKER_05 35:40

I didn't want to show up to an SRR, a readiness inspection, if that's what they still call it, and my ribbons were crooked. Right. I didn't want to show up and my uniform to Chad's point when he had corrected me and said I had the wrong function badge on and I had the services badge on. He wanted to make sure I didn't look bad in front of the troops because it would look bad hot suit to be out there with the wrong function badge, right? That would have been horrible. So it's no different for a PT. And and I would argue there are people out there that's using PT as a weapon for people's promotion and awards. True. True. No different than what they did back in the day. Who had the best crease uniform? They got to go home. Or hey, you know what? Uh council uniform looked better than Pete. He should win the award. Yeah. The people got pissed off about that.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 36:33

You know? So anyway, yeah, I I think PT is very important because you, as a leader, you should be able to follow all the standards. But everybody's human, everybody had bad days. Shout out to the CSS, won't mention their name, and the commander for holding the line and saying, look, a spade is a spade. The only thing they didn't do is put his name or her name on the on the tracking sheet. And I would argue again that tracking sheet is for him. For him.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

For her or her.

SPEAKER_03 37:05

Or her. Thank you. Um let's see. Oh, Tony B. He's still lit up. As a defender, you're supposed to be a war fighter.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

As an airman, you're supposed to be a war fighter, not just defender, airmen.

SPEAKER_03 37:19

A wrong function badge won't save a life. A physical fitness person will.

SPEAKER_05 37:24

No, actually will. It's called attention to detail. Very true. Attention to detail. Because it's not like I just haphazardly picked a function badge. You can do it and nobody cares. There's a specific function badge for each AFSC. I, as a senior, picked the wrong function badge. If I would have gone out there in front of the formation and somebody would have caught it, what are you gonna think about the op suit? You telling us to make sure that we follow all the steps for DUI processing, you can't get your function badge right. So I would argue, anytime you cannot follow the standard, whether small or large, could be effective. And I would argue, folks who don't pass their PT tests, are you telling me they're not war ready? You think there's people that went to war and they passed their PT tests? We spent three years, what was it, three, four years during COVID, right? No PT tests, and we were still fighting wars, right? And we was still we were still you know doing stuff, right? So tell me. So so don't nothing against you, Tony. You the man, you the gooch. I love you, brother. But this stuff about people not being able to do their PT, they ain't war ready, is boyish. I don't believe that one bit.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

All right, Chad said, uh, but let's be real, physical fitness will soon be included in promotion boards now that the scores are on the APBs. The PT tests and scores fit falls separately on the member or solely on the member, terrible, it's their personal responsibility. I agree with that. Terrible, I agree with that. I'm all for it. I'm all for it. As long as it's a standard that's on there, it's not left up to uh interpretation. It should be pass or fail. Pass or fail. Now, if you're saying because council got an 89 and Pete got a 90, he should get promoted. Now that's crazy. That's crazy, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's wild.

SPEAKER_05 39:28

Or fail. That's it. Did you pass or did you fail? That's all that bad.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

With the function bad oh hell, is that like a class a class A ribbon or a ladder? It's a patch to say what your job is. It's a patch, it's a ri it's a I don't even know what you call it.

SPEAKER_05 39:46

Occupational badge, yeah, it's a badge.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

That's the word a badge. It's to tell folks which specific job or not that anybody knows, not that anybody looks at me like, oh, your services, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:00

But I mean, that's not true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I you know, I argued them at first too. I was like, No, it's right. No, no, see it, look blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_03 40:09

And I was like, You're right, yeah, you're right. Well, when we did SRR, somebody had a security forces puncture badge on, and the commander noticed.

SPEAKER_05 40:19

I didn't even notice they should have packed that person up, sent them straight to security forces technical school. Like, congrats crazy. Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much. Hey, Rick, you about to get packed up, man. Cut the stuff out, bro.

SPEAKER_03 40:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the Cub Scouts. Good way to think about it. Like the Cub Scouts, but not. But uh uh. Uh-oh, birds in the building. What up, big dog? Can you read that one?

SPEAKER_05 40:49

The Air Force has always struggled with a culture of physical fitness, especially compared to the other services. True. We need to develop a culture and environment from the top down that makes time and promotes physical fitness. Aging myself, but I remember the bike. Oh god, don't bring up the bike. I don't remember the bike. Oh, don't bring bruh. I lied. I apologize to all my viewers out there. I did fail PT test when I was a young airman. It was the bike test. I failed two bike tests. I almost got kicked out for it, too. And you know the funny thing was I could run like a gazelle. But that get on that bike, it scared the mess out of me. They always say, Slow down, airman, slow down, breathe, breathe, slow down. Test cut off. And I'm like, Well, what happened? Did I fail? They'd be like, Oh, it's inconclusive. That's all I take again. No, you get two inconclusives, that's a failure.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

Anyway, interesting. You get a bobcat patch for passing your PT test the third try. I don't know what Bobcat has to do with anything. So he says, not saying it doesn't matter because it does. One does matter, one does matter more. All standards are not equal. Is there a difference between being late and getting a DUI? Both are failing the standards, but treated differently because one is worse than the others. What am I missing? You're right. Oh, shoot. At intelligent 370. There needs to be a yearly job knowledge assessment score and go with the there is. You get an SKT. I yeah. Oh, that's my other question. What do you think about people who get below a 50% on their skt? Do you think they should be held accountable for that?

SPEAKER_05 42:43

I'll go back to Tony's statement.

SPEAKER_03 42:45

And uh well, let me read Chad's and then I'll let you go.

SPEAKER_05 42:47

And this, I'll I'll just I'll just I'll just go with what Chad said because I agree with him too. Reporting the late to work is a failed standard, getting a DUI is committing a crime. There's a difference, it's a difference between a standard and a crime. Every standard is important. We I'm telling you, I and I ain't in no more, so it don't really matter that much. But every standard is important. We should not think one is worse than the other. They are important, and they all they all can lead to something, you know what I mean? Like somebody come to work late one time and you get a misstandard, you you you you failed standard there. So now as a supervisor, I'm watching. See if you're gonna come to late again. And then you come to me and say, I want to be a patrolman. I'm gonna remember you came to work late, and I'm gonna tell you, you show me you can come to work late, then I'll put you on patrol. So it's no different than a PT test. If you fail a PT test, you can't put in for an award, you can't even put in for um, you can't put in for the ward. There's a lot of stuff you can't do when you fail a PT test, which never understood that. You know what I'm saying? Somebody can get an LOR. Well, no, I'll take it back. There are cases where some wings, if you get an L O R and it's in your record and it's current, you can't put it in for the war. So I'll take that back.

SPEAKER_03 44:07

Yeah. Um, I agree with Tony to a certain extent. Uh, I don't agree with DUI, like like Chad said, it's a crime. He's 100% right. Uh, so that's a little bit egregious, uh, more than showing up late. Um, I it's kind of hit or miss, but I I will say this whatever the decision is, it needs to be a standard. Because I don't want to go to one unit and it's a standard like this, and another unit, it's a standard like that. It needs to be standardized. So I'll ask you the question: how do you standardize it?

SPEAKER_05 44:40

You can't stand or you can't, because every one thing I will say, every I think Tony when Tony says, okay, that's fair. Filling a QC and being late are different, but you can't standardize the punishment because every commander is different, every supervisor is different. To Tony's point earlier, I had command like like Obelowski. You felt, oh, she didn't play. You could not do PT. Oh, oh, yeah, she didn't like that. But I would argue, and maybe I'll I'll I'll say this very I'll be very uh careful with this one because Tony would know more than me. But I would imagine uh Colonel Babbitt wasn't that huge. She was big on PT, but probably not as much as Opolowski. And Tony, if I'm wrong, just virtually thumped me in the head. But I would tell you, I've had wing command, I had command commander I served with, the wing commander I served with in the desert. Hey, love him to death. I won't mention his name, but he wasn't big on PT. He was chugging Coca-Cola, he had like lines of Coca-Cola on his desk. But somehow they seem fit to make him a wing commander, right? So you you can't standardize every commander, is different.

SPEAKER_03 45:54

Yeah, I just would appreciate if it was standardized somehow. Somehow, maybe not, but punish. I mean, discipline, punishment, something like that. I agree with what you're saying. It's different. Uh, you're not CCs are different, yeah. CCs are different, but if they have a standard to go off of, then there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Now, it's not like showing up late, right? If you show up late, it depends on your supervisor. Say you're an all-star troop and you show up late one time. Now, I don't think you should get an LOR for that. Depends on the severity. That's true. Communication is big, right? If you call movement, oh, yeah, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Deployment, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess I'm showing up late, but it's also classified as missing

AWOL Semantics And “You Ain’t A Shirt”

SPEAKER_03 46:40

a movement. That's technically if you don't show up to work.

SPEAKER_05 46:43

That's Avon.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

You don't miss a move. Yeah, no, it has to be within 24 hours. You have to be gone for 24 hours.

SPEAKER_05 46:48

I'm gonna look it up right now.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

I bet you because I'm a shirt, because I'm a shirt, don't forget that you don't even know what you're doing. Don't forget that Lord, thank you for don't forget that. Don't forget that. God bless you. No, no, you have to be gone for a certain period of time. It's not like you show up five minutes late and all of a sudden you're a wall. Oh, what's that?

SPEAKER_05 47:07

It's not a wall, it's um absent without leave. I don't even know if it's that one.

unknown 47:16

Good.

SPEAKER_03 47:17

Why you look it up? So I can wait for my flowers. I can't wait to get my flowers. You would come to the shirt and you'd be like, sure, I wish Dale Brown was still on here. Sure, I got true. Boot late AWOL.

SPEAKER_05 47:30

Okay, so now, all right, so now eat your crow. Here we go. AWOL article 86 does not require proof that the member intended to stay away permanently, it simply means the absence was unauthorized. Article 85 desertion applies when an absence exceeds 30 days, or if there is clear evidence of an intent to stay away permanently, you ain't no shirt, pack you up, you ain't no shirt. You can't read the cliff notes, and that be everything. You can't just read the clip, you gotta read the key. Well, you look it up, you tell me. I will.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Can you read that comment by you looking at that?

SPEAKER_05 48:08

Pack you up.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

He's like, I'm a first sergeant, I'm a first sergeant pack you up, chat.

SPEAKER_05 48:18

Well, y'all, Chad, show me a picture of Pete's diamond when y'all took it. Proof of life. Rick Review says, could an Air Force wing or squad, whatever you call them, who passed their PT test. The savage. I you know, I would tell you, Rick, I think probably not. Because a lot of not all commanders, there's some really fit commanders out there, but there's some chubby ones, chubby commanders. So I would say probably not.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

AWAL is when the service members are away from the poster duty without official permission. Now there's more, and without the intent to return, okay, that is the key.

SPEAKER_05 49:10

Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Back up, don't speak past it. You said 30 days, did you not? I did say 30 days. That was deserted. That was deserved.

SPEAKER_03 49:18

But like I said, but like I said, but like I said, but like I said, but like I said, I was wrong on the 30 days, I was wrong on that, but just because they're five minutes late doesn't mean you could get them with AWAL. That's also what I said. That's also what I said.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

Did you correct? Let me make sure I understand clearly so I could break. I said both things, both things could be true, both things can be true. I just want to be clear, you said with read matter of fact, read it again.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Oh, sorry. A service member who is away from their poster duty without official permission, comma, and without the intent to return.

SPEAKER_05 49:59

Okay, so your argument is you feel like you're halfway right because you said right. So here's the key you don't know if they're intending to come to work or not. So, what do you do? You could charge them with the article, and then after you fish through the investigation, then you determine if they were planning on coming to work or not. Sure, exactly. Pack you up, man. You could charge anybody with any article, you could command you.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

That's why you could see a person looking like the jewelry eyed and charge them with use of drugs, right? Right, right anyway. Semantic semantic back to the point, back to the what did Rick Review say? You ate an Air Force Winger Squadron, whatever you call them, who passed their PT has beat a WNBA team 100. That's what I said. I could get I could get a uh a squadron basketball team to beat a dang WNBA team. What's up, Kevin? I what's up, brother? Administration actions also vary by the unit and AFSC. Very true, very true.

SPEAKER_05 51:15

I want to quickly ask a little disrespectful because Kevin is a is a retired chief. Kevin, if you if a fellow chief, your commander or first sergeant failed a PT test and you normally track it for the staff meeting. Do you think it's wrong not to put their name on the staff meeting that they have a PT failure? Or would you subscribe to the idea that the tracking is for the commander? He already knows he fails. So why put it on the slide? I'm curious.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

Chad always coming for my diamond. He's been coming for my diamond before I even had it on. He's been coming for my diamond. Don't worry, now that I'm retired, I'm going to a new job where they let me put the diamond back on. So I have it. I have it. I'll I'll show you the picture.

Why Discipline Changes By Career Field

SPEAKER_03 52:06

Uh, but my question is what do you feel about different punishments or disciplinary actions for AFSCs? Do you feel like that's right?

SPEAKER_05 52:17

I think it's fair. It's kind of a contradiction to what I said because I said standards are standard, right? Right. But then I would also say your punishment is based on the severity. So if an airman at the CSS or at the MPF is asleep at his desk and they have a customer, could that cause somebody to get killed? No. But if an airman at the gate is asleep and somebody gets through the gate, could that cause somebody to get killed? No. Okay, why not?

SPEAKER_03 52:54

Well, first you said what Kevin is of someone.

SPEAKER_05 52:58

Huh? It is wrong. We are all airmen. I don't agree with that one. I'm sorry, Kevin. Here's the reason why. This just bear with me. Let me bear with me. If the same scenario, somebody shows up at the counter to get an ID card, and the customer and the person's asleep. Does can the person at the MPF potentially kill somebody? Versus probably not. What is the purpose of someone being at the CSS to give out an ID card?

SPEAKER_03 53:25

Well, CSS and ID cards that you just are MPF semantics. The person's purpose is to make sure they have the credentials to get where they need to get to. Correct. Go to the PX, get on base.

SPEAKER_05 53:37

And if they fall asleep at the counter where the computer is and they can't render an ID card, what is the likely thing that could happen? The person walks out, they might try to get on base, but there's a gate guard there, right? Well, they're already on base. Let me walk with me. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's say they're already with they're already on base, whatever they had a base pass. But somebody tries to get through the gate and somebody's asleep at the gate, and the guy decides to go through. Your whole purpose at the gate is what? Provide security and identification. If you fail to do that and somebody walks through the base, you don't know if they are secure or a bad actor. So, yes, I think the issue with the airman at the gate is worse than the person at the NPF.

SPEAKER_03 54:28

Okay, let's tackle this. Let's tackle this real quick. And somebody put in the and Chad already said it's up to the commander, it's nothing to do with AFSC. I can understand that, but would you agree, Chad, and anybody else? Maybe Tony, Scott, I see you on here, Kevin. I see you on here. It's security forces if you do certain things. Now, I'm not talking about DUIs, I'm talking about show up to work late. For a flight airman, a senior airman that shows up to work late, work in flight. Would you say there's a bigger disciplinary gap between them showing up late and um a person in uh P mail showing up late, Calm showing up late? Would you say there's a difference in the disciplinary standard of those two things? And do you agree with it if you do? I will start first while you guys are typing this. I think there's a huge disciplinary gap between those two things. I will say it helps the airmen out later on, so don't get me wrong, it's not all bad, but there's a huge gap. I will also say that a defender showing up late means that somebody can't go home on time. But I don't believe there should be that much of a gap. You show up one time late to work as a defender. Oh, you're gonna get talked to, and then you're gonna get watched and maybe even been told you need to stay after work, you need to show up early tomorrow. Something's going to happen. Do I feel like that's wrong? Maybe not. But you work P mil and you show up late, nobody cares. I feel like the disciplinary with the different AFSC is blasphemy. Blasphemy. And as a shirt, I'll tell you, going to a different squadron and seeing how they handle people that show up late, it blew my mind. Blew my mind. Somebody just covers down.

SPEAKER_05 56:36

Hey, Tony just hey, nailed it. Why are we acting like all airman is the same?

SPEAKER_03 56:41

They're right. I didn't see that comment. Perfect.

SPEAKER_05 56:44

I agree. And that I see pretty much debunks what you just said.

SPEAKER_03 56:50

Wait, I only still don't see his. Uh, my response, it all depends on the circumstances, the unit, the commander, and total of the circumstance, totality of the circumstance. Oh, there it goes. Why are we acting like all airmen are the same? We should all disciplinary action, punishment should be different. Punishment is different. Like you get a DUI as a cop, you can't ride on patrol. There's a lot more uh third, fourth order effects to things that happen like that. But if you get a DUI as P Mill, Tom, something like that, what's what's the big deal? That'll affect your job. Maybe your security cleansers if you work calm, maybe depending on where you work in comm. So I'm not talking about punishment, talking about disciplinary, just discipline. Stay focused with me. Disciplinary.

SPEAKER_05 57:43

What's the difference? What are you trying to say? Just between disciplinary and punishment.

SPEAKER_03 57:47

So punishment is like article 15, stuff that does like articles. Like you, I mean, if you show up late, I I guess that's an article that you would have broke, but disciplinary, your supervisor can give out. Punishment is what the commander gives out.

SPEAKER_05 58:03

Uh, your supervisor can give out punishment. Like, is it L O R L O C not punishment?

SPEAKER_03 58:08

That's disciplinary.

SPEAKER_05 58:09

That's article 15 disciplinary. Yes, it is. That is punishment. No, it's not. Article 15 is a corrective action, it is not discipline. Okay, I'm gonna prove you wrong, man. Yeah, prove me wrong, prove me wrong.

SPEAKER_03 58:26

Get ready to take his diamond, chat. Yeah, get ready to take his diamond while you're looking at up. All things cannot be cookie cutter and should be treated the same. Oh, but should it differentiate by AFSCs? Oh, shoot, Pete. You tripping. A pilot and an FS commander are on different scales. I'm saying, okay. I mean, true, true. An airman who is always messing up will be treated differently for showing up late. I agree with that, I agree with that. I do agree with that. Uh, article 15 is punishment. Thank you, Tony B. DCU tripping. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 59:17

All right, we're one and one. We're one in one.

SPEAKER_03 59:19

All right. You like just gonna speak fast. What the hell would you tell me? Put the time of it back on, chat. Put the time of it back on.

SPEAKER_06 59:34

Okay, all right, baby.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

The rock. The rock.

SPEAKER_05 59:42

Oh lord, have mercy.

SPEAKER_03 59:46

The rock. All right, I'm done. But that's just my period. That's just my period. I mean, you I'll I'll let you get to it because I talked a lot about it. I want you to hear you, and then we'll move on.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:04

Uh I was so trying to prove you, folks are trying to prove you wrong.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:09

I miss so it's the question should disciplinary actions be different different for different AFSCs, i.e.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:20

showing up to work late. If you're saying, if you're saying it should be written in stone, I don't agree.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:27

Who do you say put that cubic seconion on? What's that supposed to be? A fake diamond, a fake diamond.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:35

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, are you saying if you're saying put it in the AFI to make it etched in stone? I don't agree with you. But I do agree or I feel that it is different per AFSC, because it's no different than again. If you if you are a um, if you're working at McDonald's and you fall asleep at their cash register, somebody's gonna be waiting a long time. Right. But if you fall asleep at the wheel of a bus, it's a big difference. True. If you are if you are an airman who is a um, if you are a POL airman or maintainer, and you forget to bring your gloves out to the flight line and you gotta go back to get it, the worst that could happen is you might slow down maintenance of a jet, you might slow down a mission, maybe, right? But if you are a PJ about to go on mission and you forget a piece of equipment, gloves, canteen, or whatever, that's a huge impact because you're on a mission. So I do think it is different in some cases for area emphasis.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:58

Not simply for different AFSCs, again, it should be based on the totality of the circumstances. Some of those circumstances may vary due to the nature of the AFSC. That's kind of what you were saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:09

Yeah, I just I just wish it was I mean, it sucks, but it's like the you know, back in the day, just like she, you know, uh Chiefs, cops. That's why we're you know, a lot of a lot of people who outside of cops like to shit on cops, you know, defenders. But what they cannot deny is because of the how strict our career field is and how we hold the standard, they always look for cops when they need people to do specific jobs. That's why you see so many cops who are command chiefs, so many cops who are shirts, and I mean, it's because of our career field, it's like feast or famine. Yeah, eat our own, you know. I'm saying that's why they'd be like, Oh, cops eat their own. No, because there's certain things we have to do that's important, if not bad things happen. You don't get the same thing from a nothing against my admin troops, although you would argue we had something happen with admin troops, and a bunch of people lost their strike, okay. So, yeah, I guess you can say that.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:14

Slowing down mission for a jet due to negligence of Shaw is different than uh, yeah. I I I I get it. We are built there, yeah. No, I'm gonna say built different, we just do things different. I just don't agree to the fact that it just I okay. I'm sorry, I'm stumbling all over my words. I can see the logic, it just pains me to know it's true. How about that? Yeah, I would I see the logic.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:44

It's hard. It just pains that's why I think we get a lot of we get a lot of negativity, negativity towards our career field. True. Why a lot of people say or hear, oh, you went defender, it sucks to be you. Well, that's a hard life, is because there are things we do within our own career field that is held to a higher standard than others.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:08

It's not fair, but I think it's necessary, and I think the difference between them and like I I wish I need to get a PJ or a special forces person on here to kind of talk about it. For the PJs, okay. So when they have disciplinary issues, when they have disciplinary issues, they probably handle it internally, probably not a lot of not a lot of paperwork is given out. They do, they do us, it's that's how we handle things. I don't get it. When it's why can't we handle it internally? Like we have no opportunity to train or teach. It's like when you go out there, it's like you need to be game on all the time.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:51

I think there's some places that do it, but it's you know, it's again, I think it's up to the supervisor. I've had times where I've done something wrong as an airman, instead of them giving me paperwork, they made me rock another um closed battery post, and they would come out and drill me all day long. They would make me come in early and do my uniform while they watch. So back in the day they used to do it. I don't know how they do it now. Now they're so focused on giving out paperwork and it's in your PIF and you can't remove it unless the commander authorizes it. Tony says, How many SF command chiefs out there? We get a lot of negative publicity, but the leaders know where the bread is buttered. Absolutely, true, absolutely. Hell, the Simsaf is a cop himself, the third of all time. I would argue he's probably the most, probably the one AFSC now that we got Wolf up there is the most AFSC that's been uh chief mass are in the air force between Gay.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

Um Ross the largest, the largest.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:56

I I don't I don't think that matters, to be honest. No, that's Definitely matters. No, it don't. That's just saying like don't mean you're gonna be the chief master on the air force.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

That's true. Okay, yeah, that's true. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:09

No different than a command chief. It's the one percent of the one percent.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:12

That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:13

You can say most chiefs, I can see that because we are watching career field, but special duty, nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:18

That's true. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Yeah, I just wish it wasn't like that. I've always said that though. I really wish it wasn't like that. Tony Bostik, sorry, three out of the four. Oh, a new wing just to the oh it's fine. Uh let me see. Brendan Wall says, I've been very thankful to not receive any paperwork. Well, I think with in security forces, done some dumb things with only a slap on the wrist that I'm very grateful for when I probably needed it. Hmm. Oh, that one's always tough for me. That one's always coming from a person who has a piff looking like a dictionary. It's hard for me to to subscribe to that notion. It very it really is. It really, really is. And this back to the fact where it needs to be a standard. Because paperwork shouldn't be looked at as so much as a negative thing, more or less as a corrective action. Uh when a com true fails security or comce requirements, the ish hits the fan. And they mostly shock when their A is beaten, being chewed, and then sign their Article 15. Okay, that's a big deal. But they know it's coming. Pause. They know it's happening. They know a security or comcept requirement. They they know they failed it, so they could fix it or get in front of it. I don't know. I just think it's different. I just think it's different.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:58

You know, here's a good quick example if a defender leaves is missing a round when they turn in, what do they make them do? Right?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:08

Because shoot, they make everybody go back and find it.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:12

I've I only seen that not in every case, they always make people their ammo, and then they gotta do like a statement or something like that, right? Yep. If a maintainer loses a tool, all hell huge deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:28

Yep, that's a huge deal.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

And you'd be like, yo, it's just a screwdriver.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:33

Well, if it's inside the engine and the plane blows, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:37

That's what I'm saying. If a defendant leaves flashlight or around, maybe the equivalent, maybe the equivalent is a weapon. If you leave your weapon somewhere, which I've had many troops do, yeah, and left their weapon in the bathroom, and they didn't really realize it, and they turn in and they look in their holster and it's not there. Yeah, then all hell breaks loose. So equivalent to the maintainer. I wish Charles Davis is on here. If a maintainer loses their rich or tool, all hell breaks loose.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:09

Yeah, different. Let's go to our last top before we get off for the day. I'll just put it up on the screen and then I'll just be quiet. But I have a lot of opinions about this, a lot of opinions, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages.

LeBron To Philly And Fan Chaos

SPEAKER_03 1:09:32

LeBron James. Oh, wrong one.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:47

Welcome to Billy, LeBron. I'm sorry for all the stuff I said about you for the past month. LeBron, look at me, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry, King King James. I am sorry. What was I thinking? Yeah, forget that. Wasn't DC just hating on the goat last week? Forget that dude. Pack that dude up. You're probably good with me, player. You're good with me. Yo, send all the free cheesesteaks to LeBron and Savannah, everyone. All the tasty cakes. You know what I'm saying? Free passes to the L. Rep. Yo, all you Philly fans out there, you LeBron fans, here's a couple of things you need to know.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:38

One, we hate everybody. Two, do not go to Pat and Gito's for a cheesesteak. No one goes there to eat their cheesesteaks.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:47

Jaw means a thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:49

And also, if another team comes in there, we boo them. Welcome to Philadelphia, LeBron and LeBron fans. Look at now, you know what the thing that scared me though, truth be told, I saw a Facebook post. I forgot all about what happened with the Brooklyn Nets a while ago when they had a super team, Kyrie Irving, James Harden, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant. I can't remember who the fifth person was, but everybody talked about how super teen they were. And they never got to the finals. Never. But this won't happen to us. It is destined. Philly has not won a title since 1983. Back when Dr. J. Moses Malone was a star. It's coming, ladies and gentlemen. The king has arrived.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

Did you see Scott's comment? New comment of the day.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:40

My man's jersey collection looks like a nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:43

I put it on the screen. I put it on the screen.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:47

Okay. Goat equals get on another team. That's fine. That's fine, baby. That's fine. Brian, Brian, Brian. Brian, LeBron. All you haters out there, you Lakers fans, you Heat fans, you Cavaliers fans, you guys wanted the king. Now all of a sudden, y'all ain't got him. Y'all want to throw them through the trash in the mud. And yes, we was gonna throw him. We was gonna do the same thing too if we can get them. But it didn't happen because we got the king, ladies and gentlemen. We got the king.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:22

That look at what Tony said. Without a bitch, they won't get out first round.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:27

What Tony said about the bitch. We still winning the title. It's happening.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:32

Not gonna front. The Sixers LeBron jersey looks cold.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:36

I mean, it's just a 23 on now.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:39

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because LeBron, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:42

No different than Joel and B. Everyone hates on Bron until he's on their team. Uh Brandon, that was the other guy, the other Philly DC. I don't even know who that dude packed that dude up. But me, me, I always love LeBron.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:57

LeBron is this is blast for me.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:01

This is the other Bobby like weeks ago. I don't know who that dude is. Pack that dude up, but me, hey LeBron, welcome to Philly, baby. Give us that title, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:14

I've never seen somebody so happy over a 40-year-old joining their team.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:19

Hey, never Thomas White, sixes and six, six is a six, yes, sir. Is that what everybody's gonna start saying? I didn't call him LeBum four days ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:30

You did, you did.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:33

I didn't.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:34

That's the other thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:38

I'm good with LeBron.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:41

Yep, 23 makes every jersey look better. We know why.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:46

He'll be the greatest sixer ever. Tony, you need to be drug tested, Tony. Let's not get ahead of my he won't be the greatest six ever. Now I'll take it back. If he brings us a title, then I would agree with you. He will be he will be as praised or even more so than Nick Foles. Because the Sixers has been irrelevant for years. Next, I think no, there's other well. The Knicks we had to wait since 77. Again, the Sixers haven't won one since 83.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:20

Can I bring up my opinion?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:21

I will say this really quick before you say your opinion. I'm marking it now. We win the title this year. LeBron's discussion or discussion between LeBron and the Jordan has gotten close. Very close. Because LeBron.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:39

I ain't worried about him at all. I ain't worried about him at all.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:43

LeBron would have won a title for four different teams. And even more importantly, everyone, I will admit, the Sixers have the better chance of winning a title than the Heat in the Cleveland. I would give you that because everybody's saying LeBron's ring chasing. But think about it. The Sixers have not won a title since 1983. For him to be able to go on there, put this smorgasborg or meatloaf full of players together and somehow win.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:21

First of all, did you see uh Catavius Cole Pope is now went to the Sixers? Yep, not surprising. LeBron Brendan, I need to ask you. You said there isn't even a debate. Are you saying Jordan is the GOAT or LeBron is the GOAT? 40-year-old Braun is not better than Prime Dr. J. I agree. I ain't never seen Prime Dr. J. I agree. Thomas White, a Philly fan. He won't be the greatest sixer ever. AI, very true, will always be that. But he will be the most appreciated sixer.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:57

I I kind of agree and disagree because Philadelphia's hunger, hungry, hungry, hungry for the title.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:07

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. All right, Brendan. I'll get to that in a minute. Uh, he has done it for three different teams already. Y'all moving the goalpost. This dude is him, and Jordan is number three. Pack you up, Tony. Pack you up, bro. What is wrong? Have y'all heard of Kobe Bryant? Has anybody heard of the Copster number 24? I'm getting upset now. I'm holding my mic close. Has anybody heard of the copster? I don't have my poster up, but it'll be up soon. Really? Really? LeBron beat the greatest team assembled. Okay. First of all, that wasn't LeBron.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:52

I ain't got no problem with LeBron. First of all, that wasn't LeBron. It was Kyrie Warren. Did y'all forget about Kyrie being on that team? What the freak is going on?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:08

What is going on? Only thing Braun has MJ's long. Thank you, Scott. Thank you, Scott. Holy crap. Okay, this is what I got. This is crazy. This is what y'all gonna make me lose my mind. Tony Boss said LBJ Jordan or Kobe Jordan records are made to be broken. LBJ and what the most teams ever played for? Him and him and he's like he you know what reminds me of? You know what reminds me of? Uh uh, what's his name? Um, God, I can't, I had his name on the tip of my tongue. He played for the Lakers. Robert Ori. That's LeBron James. LeBron James is Robert Ori.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:53

Oh, that's disrespectful, right there.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:55

They disrespect it. It wasn't LeBron. LeBron damn near averaged a triple double. Here we go with the triple double. Bullshh. Did you forget he missed the three when they played San Antonio? Did we forget that? Y'all know Jordan had a career before the 90s, right? Yeah, of course. Of course. So if you just take six years, or you could take his whole 13 years, he's still better than LeBron. Check the stats of the series, bro. He led every team category. Did you forget who hit the last shot in that 3-1 series against the best team ever assembled? Did you forget? Alright. A lot of com I need to say the thing about the Sixers.

Why The Sixers Still Might Fall Short

SPEAKER_03 1:18:49

The Sixers will not win the championship this year. They won't win it next year. Here's why. They have a great starting five, the best starting five in the NBA. They have no bench. They are led by a bunch of youngsters coming off the bench. Tyrese Maxie is not going to be the Tyrese from last year. Edgecombe is not going to be the Edgecombe of last year. And Joel and B can't stay healthy for more than eight games in a row. They will not win. It's a great story. It's a great story. Where I say LeBron helps him out is LeBron is going to get people like it's a freaking AAU team. He's going to get people to come to his team. And he's also a great person to lead from from their mind. I guess he has a great basketball knowledge to help them if anything happens. I will stop there because I'm saying too much, but y'all are killing me right now. LeBron over Jordan debate is killed. I don't care if he wins nine rings with the Sixers in a row. He will never be better than Jordan. Ever, ever, ever. And in my personal opinion, he's not better than Kobe. But that's just me. I I will I will yield my time, as they say in Congress.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:19

Well, you in all honesty, you didn't have any time anyway, so it's not you can yield.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:25

It's not like so he's better than Shaq Duncan because of the shot Pete play playing golf. Joel is holding them down. I can't even lie. What? What? Like little John said. What? Holding them down, holding the bench down. He's holding down a seat on the bench. He ain't playing.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:52

Jordan played against Bummers. I think what he's trying to say is Joel is holding them back. Oh, holding them back. Okay, okay, all right, all right. Who?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:01

Who? All right, all right. On my Sunday Philly, got his 76th of merch on. Charles Davis, we were just talking about maintenance. You missed it. But uh, so yeah, do you think the Sixers are the favorite? Right now, they're number five in the power rankings.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:22

They are at least number two best to win the title in the Eastern Conference. The only reason why I won't say the Sixers over the Knicks is because the Knicks have better chemistry. They just won a title, and so they're gonna have a chip on their shoulder, knowing that Philly is gunning for him. And because of that, I think they are better. However, Joe, let's see, Thomas White says we don't need Joe the whole season just the last half. I agree. Great point, Thomas. Great point. He ain't gonna make it, he ain't gonna make it. I think LeBron, much as the other Philly DC packed that dude up, all that stuff he was talking about. What he failed to remember, LeBron is known as one of the best ring generals in high IQ in the NBA history. I'll give you that, and so because of that, and not only that, look at his track record. The other Philly DC, that bum was talking about how LeBron was a flop or whatever. Hey, LeBron knows how to run a team, he's won a title with every single team he's been on, although the Lakers won asterisks. That bum um Philly DC before said it was asterisks. Hey, a title's a title. So that being said, blasphemy.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:46

This is blasphemy.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:50

Has never went to a team and not won a championship. Even if I will give you this the chances of them winning it this year is not as high as the next year. That's why he signed for two years. He won't be there for two years. I guarantee you, if he don't win the title this year and the Sixers make it to at least the Eastern Conference Finals, he will stay another year, and Philadelphia will move the earth to get him who he wants. And people they won't have to because you know why? People are gonna come to Philadelphia to no, no, no, no, it's it's already been what do you mean? No, why would they not? No, why would they not? It's LeBron James. It was LeBron James now rumors out there that Draymond Green wants to come over there.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:37

Okay, yeah, that's just a rumor. So even what y'all getting a bunch of senior citizens? Y'all just gonna get a bunch of senior citizens.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:46

Look, here's my prediction. You had yours, here's my prediction. Yes, I'm waiting. Philly will win a title. Uh yeah, but they're gonna win one next, if not this year, next year. Y'all, y'all let me know in the chat. LeBron is wearing a Sixers jersey. Okay, as long as LeBron is there, we're gonna win. And that's y'all let me know. That's that's the key to LeBron that you're that that even this bum Philly DC before this other dude packed him up again. What he feels remember is LeBron owns the NBA. Can you imagine the story it would be for LeBron to have his last team to win a title? And in Philly, this bum Philly DC before again packed that dude up. All this stuff about LeBron is soft, he'll never play for Philly. He's thrown a big middle finger up to Philly DC and says, watch this. The hardest, I would argue the hardest, somebody a somebody this somebody battled with me, or say you I dare you to say you disagree. The hardest place to play in sports is Philadelphia. I agree with that, and for LeBron, who is known to be they had to do Philly DC before, pack him up again and say how weak he was, for him to go to Philly over Miami, Miami would have been easy, Cleveland would have been heartfelt. No one expected him to go to Philadelphia, nobody. All right, first of all, the same day Pete says LBJ is the goal.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:25

Never, never, the day after, never set your clock, set your clock, and look what Charles Davis said. Team A R P. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:40

My bad divine counsel, senior citizens, you senior citizens, back you up, poo. Go to your room, go to your room.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:54

Oh no, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:55

You let me know how much money would you put on the 76ers winning the title this year.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:04

Well, if I had a lot of money.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:07

Now, how much would you have right now? A thousand, a hundred, five dollars.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:11

I'll put like this. If somebody said, Oh I would, I would seriously consider embedding it all this year. I said, consider. I said consider, consider. The only thing that gives me pause is two things. One, the Western Conference is still stronger, two, the chemistry. Oh, actually, three Western Conference, team chemistry, and health. Oh, I take back four. How you're going to, but although I won't say four because again, LeBron James is one of the greatest IQs out there. He don't have to be old school LeBron, he can be James from good times, LeBron. Oh, wow. Wow. And he's fine. Just him being out there alone is gonna make us better. Hail to the king. Hail to the king.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:11

Hail to the king. All right. I see we're not, we'll see when the season starts. I feel like this discussion is gonna go so different once LeBron has a couple bad games. I feel like it's gonna go so differently.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:28

Yeah, I do wonder how Jalen Brown actually feels about this.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:33

Jalen Brown, I feel like it will help him the most. I will be honest with that. It's gonna hurt Tyree, Maxie, because LeBron's gonna want to bring the freaking ball up.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:48

But Tony, you smoke. What you need to be drug tested, Tony. He says, Ain't nobody beating the Spurs next year, bro. They got packed up by the dicks. The Spurs should have.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:00

Won a title. Them dudes folded. The Spurs folded. They didn't just lose. They lose terribly. Four to one. And they had a tell me, Pete, remind me, did the Spurs, did they or did they not have home court advantage, right? So what are you talking about, Tony? Pack you up, bro. Are you serious? The Spurs folded. Wimby was soft. He was spaghetti noodle soft. Wimby, thank you, Thomas. He was a noodle.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:32

And he on the cover of 2K27. So you know they're gonna lose.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:38

Okay, wait. Tony, I do agree with you. I do agree with you. I do agree. Devonny, I agree with you. Easter conference finals, at most. At most. That's fine. Poor Tyrese Maxie. That's all I'll say. Poor Tyrese Maxie.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:02

I mean, if you're saying poor Tyrese Maxie because he's not gonna be the number one uh solution, then that's fine. I think he's perfectly fine with it. Remember, Tyrese Maxie and Joel lobbied for him to come. True, they know what to expect. And LeBron is not going to be the focal point, it's still gonna be Maxie. He won't get as many points as he did last year, but he got help. He has help now. Teams last year, we weren't even supposed to beat Boston. I get it, they didn't have Tatum, but we weren't even supposed to be that good. No, it shouldn't be Boston. Just like Brown said, LeBron says, and many other people, if Joe L could stay healthy, he's focused, he is one of the best big men in NBA history. One of the best. I didn't say he was the best, one of the best. So if Joe L and Maxie both lobby for LeBron to get there, you don't think they're gonna make he's gonna make them better?

SPEAKER_03 1:30:03

Everything's all good when they're not playing. Wait till they start losing.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:06

And I agree with Thomas White. Edgecom is the one that's gonna suffer the most, he's gonna be an afterthought.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:11

Oh David said that. Oh, he just said that. If anybody suffer is edge com because he's not gonna learn a lot. Oh, Charles Davis, my bad. He's gonna learn a lot. Yeah, I think he'll learn a lot, but I I just feel 82 games is a long season. And B does not play the full season, I don't think, ever in his career. And I don't see it happening now. Jalen Brown has no problems with injuries, Maxie has no problem with injury, etchcom has no problems with injuries. LeBron was injured pretty well uh a lot last year. I think the most in his career. I just don't see them beating a lot of teams out the east. I think they'll be number one or number two out the east. I do say that. I am nobody plays in the regular season. Yeah, nobody plays in the regular season anyway.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:04

But come playoff time, they're making it to the finals. I won't bet the farmers say they're gonna win the finals, they're gonna make it to the finals, they're gonna be what finals the Eastern Conference or the NBA NBA final. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Bank it nah, bank it. Watch, you're gonna eat those words later. Watch.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:25

We'll see when it's all-star break, and y'all are barely hitting 500. All right, and you and the the the old Philly DC comes back.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:34

You're telling me that by all-star break, we're not gonna be at 500.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:39

No, y'all be that's a little that's a little already, man. Already, yeah, that's too much. That was too much. Drug test him, but but I will say that y'all be number two or three by the all-star break.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:50

We'll be number two or one. Thank it.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:53

Okay, two or one.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:55

We'll see. Good story. Good story. Oh, yeah, I'll go see him. I'll go see him. I'm super excited. I'm super excited, and again, that says a lot about Philadelphia. Tony, you need to be drug tested. That's what you need to be. Hey, me, you know what I'm saying? Y'all, some haters, you know what I'm saying? Y'all some haters, and Tony, you might say goodbye to the Pistons. Trash, we're gonna blast them too. So much for Detroit. Y'all had y'all shot, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:33

Yeah, we'll be in the playoffs, but you know what? You know what's crazy? I see the Pistons playing the Sixers first round, even though we're gonna kill them, dude.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:46

And somebody said nobody was saying that the Wizards were gonna go to the finals when Jordan joined them. That's a total different story. Totally different. Jordan went to the Wizards, he didn't have the team the LeBron's got, nor did he recruit, exactly, nor did he recruit, which is you know, hey, you know what? Like I said, that the only thing I agree with the other dude that Philly DC dude packed him up, he's right. Jordan is a different animal. I'm telling you, if LeBron well, I'll put like this when LeBron wins a title in Philly this year or next year. This conversation before when you had Jordan here and LeBron here is gonna be right about here. That is crazy. I didn't put him over, Jordan, but it's gonna be close. And here's why I'm gonna let me tell y'all, just give me a second. That is the sixers have never won a title since 1983. You know, when the last you know, I'm gonna share my if y'all allow me to indulge you. The last time we won a title was when this aired. This is the last time we won this talk when we won.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:04

David said, Pete, you come back to the show and Philly gets LeBron. Uh, all right, go ahead. Where is it at? Y'all see it? Uh, yeah, I see your YouTube thing. I don't see nothing else. Hold on, pack pack me up. Yeah, pack you up. Goodness gracious. Hey, he said, give me a second. Nobody wanna play with MJ's groofy at Tony Bostix. Something is wrong with you, something serious. All right, don't you ever call him goofy? This is the last time we won a title. Patty Labelle.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:34

This is what we won the last time.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:36

We're gonna get we're gonna get banned. We're gonna get banned. We can't be playing that. We're gonna get banned. We don't play else. No, no, no. We didn't play, we didn't play audio. Oh, we don't have copyrights for that. Pack you up, pack you up. He said, pack you up. Tony Boston, you you were blasphemous. Call MJ Goofy. He's a Detroit fan. He's a Detroit fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:07

He said, pack Joy. He said he called Jordan Goofy. Yeah, he called Jordan Goofy. Hey, how about you see your way to the door? Pack you up, bro. Yeah, Tony Bostic, that's great.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:17

No, Tony B gooch. Pack you up. See yourself to the door. What are you talking about, man? Disrespectful, bro. He's a Detroit fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:26

He's a Detroit fan. Disrespect. You know what? Speaking of which, I had a great conversation on Facebook with Tony B and Samel

Picking The Best By Position

SPEAKER_05 1:35:34

Brown. Shout out to Samel Brown. There was a graphic of the top point guards, shooting guards, small forts, power force. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, yeah. You see that? So I think what Tony B was saying that he was upset Isaiah Thomas wasn't on that list, and John Stockton was kind of blasphemous.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:59

Kind of blasphemous.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:02

Okay, then I would I would humbly ask, what do you guys?

SPEAKER_02 1:36:05

I kind of blasphemous.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:06

What are you well? Let me ask you this. Your top five point guards of all time, who would be number one?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:14

Oh, I would have to let me look. Can I can I cheat and look at a list real quick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:21

And while he's doing that, you guys in the chat put down who your number one point guard of all time is. I'm curious. Charles Davidson says, pack Pete up and keep this a one-based show. Pete, you bad luck. Now we got CD6s, two shorts. Shout out to Charles, man. Yo, I had he he helped me get something over here in the UK, man. I want it badly, man. Thank you, man. I appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:51

Um man, I'm torn. I I'll I'll be I'll go out on the limb. I'll just say, ah man, so hard. Just one.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:02

Who's your number? No, who's you go ahead? You can pick many, but who in Europe is the best point guard of all time?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:09

I guess I'll go with magic. I guess I'll go with magic. It's hard. I agree. Yeah, it's hard. That's hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:17

Okay. And your number one, your top shooting guard of all time should be Kobe over Jordan.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:23

Yeah. I'll just be there. No, Jordan, Jordan over Kobe. Jordan over Kobe. Yeah, yeah. Jordan Kobe would be number two.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:30

Yeah. Okay, this is an interesting one. Small Ford of all time, number one. You gotta put LeBron. You gotta put LeBron. Yeah, you could. I'm I think Larry Bird was number two.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:43

Yeah, Larry Bird for sure, but you can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:47

I agree with that. Curry is gonna be true point guard. But he's listed as a point guard. Man, anyway, power forward. This should be interesting. Top power forward. Tim Duncan, yeah. Tim Duncan is easy, and then center. This should be interesting. Shaq.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:06

No, no, the diesel. No, I guess he's the most dominant. So most of the Bill Russell, no Kareem, Kareem, Kareem, Kareem. I'll go with Kareem. Kareem or Elijah. Or Elijah one or Elijah one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:21

Tony B says LBJ number one. Magic, even though he can't shoot. Doesn't matter. Two Zeke. Wait a minute. You say LBJ for point guard? I think he's saying number one all time.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:36

I think. I don't know. I don't know. You're always saying point guards. No, no, he is saying point guards. He's saying point guards.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:44

Man, somebody called the feds and and drug test this dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:47

Where's going magic? Isaiah Curry Oscar J Kid. Oh, Oscar.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:53

Interesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:54

Dell says die line, die line, dylon. Of course, of course. Of course. Yeah, I point guard is a hard one. Point guard is easy.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:05

Magic. That dude revolutionized the position. Yeah, he can't shoot that great, but he was a phenomenal passer. Probably the only one just as good as Magic with passing the ball is LeBron. And I would argue that's probably what makes LeBron so great is that he's so tall, I mean, so big, and he can dish the ball. He's got great court vision. There's no point guard out there with Magic Johnson's court vision.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:32

It's funny nobody says it's funny, nobody says anything about a Steve Nash with top point guards. That's a great point.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:41

I would say Steve Nash is better than Jason Kidd.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:44

Oh wow. I think he's better than Jason Kidd. Hey, it's funny. I just said it. Look what Delhi Steve Nash, Jordan is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:54

And he ain't win no title. Nope.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:02

Dirk is a strong case. Wait a minute. He says Steve Nash point guard, Jordan shooting guard, Brian Small for it, Dirk over Duncan. Yeah, never. I could never be that upset, but he's not better than Duncan. Duncan is the blueprint for a power forward. And Shaq again. Shaq can't make free throws. He's dominant. But if I had a if I had a team, I would not put Shaq over Kareem. He wouldn't even put himself over Kareem or Lajuwan. You see that? Only got that championship in Cleveland due to Kyrie Irvin the great.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:42

Sound like something I said. Sound like something I said. And I got criticized. I got criticized. I agree. Uh Brendan says Magic Kobe LeBron Tim Kareem. So through four Lakers.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:57

I don't agree with uh Kobe being number two. I mean the shooting problem. He's not better than Jordan. He's close. Jordan's here. Kobe is here. LeBron's here. He won the title of the Sixers joint. He goes by right here.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:11

He bumps over in Kobe.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:14

My book. Well, pack you up. Like you would say. Pack you up. I need a day, thing. Pack you up.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:26

Pack you up.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:38

That's right. That other dude, Philly DC, was a straight hater, man. Pack that dude up. Tell you LeBron win. Yo, he go right on. He's right wrong, George Heels. Yeah. Yo, you see what you see what Charles Davis said. Just because Shaq can't shoot free throws don't mean he is less. L P can't weak, but he's still what a ball. Charles Davis.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:07

Hey, that was good. I'm not gonna lie. That was quick thinking. That was just good because it was quick think quick thinking. Hater.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:15

Perfect.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:16

That was good though. But Jordan's been yes,

Final Shots And Next Week

SPEAKER_03 1:42:20

he is. All right, ready to get done with this show. Yeah, good show today. See y'all next week, man. Um, it's gonna be a long season with these sixers. Yeah, no, it won't.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:34

It's gonna be great for us, and again, you LeBron fans is waiting to come to Philly. Hey, join. Come join. Come one and fall. You know what? I predict, just like when the Eagles won the title and we had all these new Eagles fans, say it's gonna be even worse with Sixers fans. You think when the Knicks came and they so they went in there and invaded Wells Fargo center in the playoffs, that won't happen this year. Philly fans are gonna travel all over now to see LeBron play. The king, welcome to Philly King. Don't hey. Um hey uh I ain't got nothing to do with what that other dude said. Pack that dude up, Philly DC. That dude was garbage, trash, he don't know nothing. You good with me, LeBron. Welcome to Philly, baby.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:23

We out, unpopular celebrities. We out, go Sixers! No, this is crazy. Oh, this is crazy. This is crazy. Thank god the NFL seasons before the NBA season. Thank God, thank god. If I see you on the show with a LeBron jersey, it's gonna be one.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:43

I'm getting one. Real talk. If the Sixers don't win the chip, the city's going to, yeah, we're gonna burn that city down. And hey LeBron, if we don't win the title, oh get ready. Oh, it's done.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:02

I can't wait for that day because unpopular celebrities is gonna be legit that day. It's gonna be legit that day. We out, go birds, go sixers.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:20

Sixers.