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EP3| Part 1:INVESTOR CLUB ROUNDUP SHOW with Lisa Hoegler, Dan Redig, & Larry French #919

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In this episode of INVESTOR CLUB ROUNDUP SHOW  host Joey Romero sits down with REIA leaders Lisa Hoegler (LA South REIA), Larry French (CV REIA), and Dan Redig (SDCIA) for a dynamic roundtable discussion. They share how their clubs have adapted in a changing market—from flipping to finance, lunch meetups to online events, and a growing focus on ADUs. Tune in for valuable insights on local real estate trends, the power of investor communities, and how education is evolving across California’s REIA landscape. 


For more information on this month’s featured clubs and speakers, please see below:

LA South Real Estate Investors Association

San Diego Creative Investors Association

Coachella Valley Real Estate Investors Association



In this episode:

  • Joey Romero introduces REIA leaders Lisa Hoegler (LA South REIA), Larry French (CVREIA), and Dan Redig (SDCIA)
  • Lisa Hoegler shares LA South REIA’s shift from flipping to finance and economics
  • Larry French discusses CVREIA’s monthly meetups and local market focus
  • Dan Redig highlights SDCIA’s hands-on approach and ADU trends in San Diego
  • REIA leaders reflect on club growth and adapting to market challenges
  • Local real estate investing opportunities unique to LA, Central Valley, and San Diego
  • The role of community support and education in investor success
  • Importance of dynamic speakers and staying connected through evolving formats




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Welcome to The Norris Group real estate podcast, a show committed to bringing you insights from thought leaders shaping the real estate industry. In each episode, we'll dive into conversations with industry experts and local insiders, all aimed at helping you thrive in an ever-changing real estate market. continuing the legacy that Bruce Norris created, sharing valuable knowledge, and empowering you on your real estate journey. Whether you're a seasoned pro or a newcomer, this is your go-to source for insider tips, market trends and success strategies. Here's your host, Craig Evans.

Joey Romero:

Welcome everybody to The Norris Group Real Estate Podcast. Today, we're doing our third edition of the Investor Club Roundtable Roundup, whatever we want to call it. We have three awesome guests with us today. We have Larry French from the CVREIA. We have Dan from SDCIA, and we have Lisa from LA South REIA. So I'm going to give everybody the opportunity to introduce themselves, talk about your club a little bit, and then we'll get into the fun and interesting questions that I have for you guys today. So we'll go ladies first today, Lisa, tell us about who you are and your club.

Lisa Hoegler:

Thank you so much for the opportunity, Joey. Yes, I'm Lisa Haigler. I've been an investor for 23 years now, I guess since 2003 I started out my investing career in the Charlotte, North Carolina area, and I did a little bit of investing in Atlanta until the crash in 2008 and then after that, I moved back to my home state of California, and I live in the South Bay in the Torrance areas where I founded LA South REIA. And part of why I wanted to start LA South REIA back then was because I had been very involved in REIA's on the East Coast when I was or in the southeast when I was investing out there, and I loved the camaraderie that the groups brought and how much education there was. And obviously back in the day, there wasn't as many places to get great education as there are now. So REIA's were just a foundational part of that. So I started LA South REIA in 2013 and our club had been steadily growing during COVID. We actually did kind of take a step back in membership a little bit, but people have been returning since that time, and we try to focus on initially, when I started the club, we were working a lot with new investors, and we were, you know, kind of working with flippers and things like that. But over the years, we've kind of progressed into more of a real estate, real estate finance, economics type of group instead. And so we have a lot of buy and hold investors in our market.

Joey Romero:

I'll get into that a little bit more, because I have some very specific questions about that. But no, I'm glad you're talking about that. Larry, can you tell us about your club?

Larry French:

Yes. Hey, hi, everybody. So together with my wife, Janet. My name is Lawrence French, and I go by Larry. We took over the Coachella Valley Real Estate Investors club about 20 years or 15 years ago, 2010. And the person running it wasn't enjoying it, and it was something I wanted to do and start helping other investors. So we spent our first 11 years doing a traditional kind of format with a speaker comes in in the evening. We meet at the Embassy Suites in Palm Desert. We specialize in the Coachella Valley and a California and for the last five years, since COVID, we have transitioned to just a lunch meeting. So once a month, a whole gang of us get together at the Daily grill in Palm Desert, and we talk about local real estate, very heavily focused on our local areas. What we like to keep focused on.

Joey Romero:

Awesome. Dan, you're heading one of the oldest in Southern California. Can you tell us about SDCIA?

Dan Redig:

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Thanks for having me. Joey. SDCIA became known to me in 2012 and I attended my first meeting in 2013 where I learned that the group has been around since 1976. so for those of you who know Bill Tan, he's been around a minute in the San Diego and LA area. He was president for 24 years just before I got to join the board. And it's been quite a ride, and Bill still provides some ideas and mentorship along the way. So that's awesome. Thanks, Bill. So we've got a pretty large club and very active lot of classes, and we really focus on action, how to get people out there, and I think that's the best use of a REIA. So we, we don't really like the idea of a class where people said, Llisten, we like the idea of an action group where people come in, they learn a skill, they go practice the skill, and then they come back to the rest of the group and say, well, they learned what worked, what didn't. It. And so we try to keep on that rolling through as our theme is taking action.

Joey Romero:

I like it. So one of the things I like to do is, I like to open with an icebreaker. All right, so, I want to ask everybody that. So we'll start. We'll go in reverse this time. Dan, what was the first car you ever owned?

Dan Redig:

First car I owned was a 1988 Honda Civic.

Joey Romero:

Oh, nice.

Dan Redig:

I drove that thing like I stole it through 320,000 miles. It wouldn't die if the body rusted off as a Minnesota car, and it wouldn't die.

Joey Romero:

Larry, what'd you drive?

Larry French:

1973 Datsun 510.

Dan Redig:

That's cool.

Larry French:

Yeah, I wish you had it now. It's a cute little cafe looking racer car.

Joey Romero:

Yeah, yeah. People are not going to know what Datsun that turned into Nissan, but.

Larry French:

Yeah.

Joey Romero:

Lisa, what did you drive?

Lisa Hoegler:

I have no idea what year this thing was, but it was old, and it was a Toyota Corolla, and it was blue. I remember that. And in my early years of driving, I actually had quite a few wrecks. I think in the first couple years, I went through six cars. So, I think that blue Toyota Corolla was the first one.

Larry French:

Yes, that was before you were living in the snowy areas too, right Lisa?

Lisa Hoegler:

Right here in Orange County.

Joey Romero:

So, when I was getting ready to get a car. My dad, my cousin, was a mechanic, and he would fix all these cars in East LA and he had the cul de sac where just park all kinds of cars. And my dad always, you know, growing up, it was like,'Well, you know, I'll just have Ben give you a car, there you go. And he had this 64 Convertible Firebird. And I was like...

Dan Redig:

Wow.

Larry French:

Oh wow.

Joey Romero:

That's what I want. And when it came time for me to drive, he was like, No, I can't give that to him. And so I was like, All right, whatever. I just want a car. So I ended up with the lime green Opel, if you guys even know what that is.

Dan Redig:

Whoa, yeah, you're winning that one, Joey.

Joey Romero:

But it was so much fun because I didn't care about it. So, like all my friends, drove it, like we called it Slimer, which, like all this group would know what Slimer?

Dan Redig:

Yes, yes.

Joey Romero:

Hey, can I borrow Slimer? Yeah, sure. Just put some gas in it, you know. So it was

Lisa Hoegler:

Those things were tanks, Joey I remember correctly, like they could, they could withstand a beating, right?

Joey Romero:

Yes, yes. Well, all right.

Dan Redig:

Right, when crumple zones didn't exist, right?

Joey Romero:

Real, real metal. Yeah. So let's get into, let's get into what the club does. So, yeah, let's, let's start with you when you first got involved with, I can't ask you, you know, what it was like in the early days of the club? Because, you know...

Dan Redig:

I wasn't born when the club was founded.

Joey Romero:

Yes, so when you first started, you know, going to the club, what was the environment like? What kept you coming back?

Dan Redig:

Oh, you know. So when I started going, we were still kind of feeling the effects pretty strong of 2008 downturn. And so very, very well attended people trying to learn to understand the market and kind of with that, the sense of not knowing and what's next, right? So it was a hub for people to come together, and not just education, but also support, it turned out. And I don't think anybody went there with that intention, but they ended up getting a lot more out of it. Yeah.

Joey Romero:

And Bruce was already doing the Christmas party every year, already.

Dan Redig:

Yes. He was yes.

Joey Romero:

So, Lisa, you started from scratch. So what were like the early days? You know, was it tough to get it going. Or like, were people just like, "we got to get REIA down here."

Lisa Hoegler:

You know, surprisingly. So LA South REIA is a chapter of National REIA. And at the time, National REIA was looking for more exposure in the California area. And so coming from very big clubs on the East Coast, REIAs were humongous out there, that it wasn't uncommon to have a couple 1000 people in your REIA. And I was, you know, thought I'd be coming to an even bigger market, and there would be just the club would be huge. And when I started, and when I started the club in the South Bay, I realized that there were so many other options for investors to learn, to learn online, things like that, that I realized, okay, it was just going to be a smaller, more local club. And so we just kind of steadily kept growing and growing. And a variety of, you know, different investors would come, but I would say the majority of all the investors that have ever come through LA South REIA, and it's, you know, been 1000s at this point. They're all local to the South Bay. We really it is a very micro, local type club, and people who have ties or roots or live right in the South Bay area. So I have seen, I would say, especially in the last couple of years. Like I said, it's different. It's totally different membership, but we might talk about that later.

Joey Romero:

Yeah, so Larry, how was it?

Larry French:

Yeah.

Joey Romero:

When you first took over?

Larry French:

So, yeah, the person I took over from the club had never done deal. I really knew much about it. She founded it with the idea of, hey, if I find, if I found this, found, you know, create this club. I'll start learning. I'll get, I'll surround myself with good people. Great, a great idea. I respected her for that. And I went to her club, and it was horrible, it was at a sushi restaurant in the bar, so none of us could hear also, the drinks were good. And she, that's when she said, I'm done with this. And I was like, I wasn't sure if it was something shoes I wanted to step into, and I did. And I was encouraged by a couple really smart folks that I know, and one of them, the guy, said to me, he's like, Well, you need to run the club in your area. And I said, 'Well, why would I want to bother doing that? Sounds like a lot of work.' He said, 'Well, if you don't do it, I'm going to do it.' And this guy was already running a club in San Diego, and he had one in northern Cal where he worked or where he lived, and he was really going to do it. And so that got me motivated a little bit. And then another pal had mentioned to me, you know, if he, nobody's going to crown you of like an expert in your area, let's say the South Bay or San Diego, or somebody really knows your area. But if you run the club, it kind of helps. And so I thought that made a lot of sense to be able to person who helps bring people together, learn about the deals, and help spread real estate education for an area people, it gave me instant credibility in a farm area that I was trying to develop. So for me, personally, it helped a lot. And then we had wonderful, wonderful speakers that came in and helped. We helped, we have tons of people.

Joey Romero:

So you start becoming that connector, right?

Larry French:

Yeah, exactly.

Joey Romero:

And that's kind of what I'm learning from, like all of the club owners and the presidents, is that you become the go to when somebody needs something, you always know who they need.

Larry French:

Yeah.

Lisa Hoegler:

You are influencers before influencers were cool.

Joey Romero:

Yes. Now put that together. Let's get our tiktok going. Come on. So Larry, I'll stay with you. What is the current demographic like? What kind of investors you're coming to the you know, to the CVREIA?

Larry French:

So we literally had our lunch an hour and a half ago. So thank you guys for all being flexible with my time today, too. I know we probably switched it around. So today it's a lunch, right? So we're small now, which is nice. There was about 16 of us there today, and I'd say for them were new, never offended, and the other 12 or so had been once or twice. Or some of them are there all the time. You know, you'll get regulars that really do get value from showing up all the time. You'll also get some folks that'll just come by because they've got a project or their questions, or they happen to be in town. So regarding our demographic, Joey, we're a, the Coachella Valley has a lot of seasonal residents. Also, you know, we're tourist destination. A lot of second homes here. A lot of people. The local people come in, local res, local tourists will call them, will come in from San Diego, San Francisco, LA, and then we'll have out of area residents, like, you know, Canadians in Colorado and Washington. So the club size changes a little bit right now. We're near the end of the season, and so we're we'll shrink down a little bit as some of those second home buyer or users leave, because it's getting hot. Like we hit 104 today.

Joey Romero:

Whoo! It was, it was 95 today when I walked, I still walk. So, Lisa, I know you're running a little bit different format nowadays. So how do you track that? You know? Is it all zoom, or is it hybrid like, how do you know who's coming to your clubs

Lisa Hoegler:

Through the end of last year, we actually were still doing in person meetings and the size of the club, similar to Larry, we get between 20 and 30 now. That's down from, you know, a high which was maybe seven or eight years Well, maybe not even that much. Maybe five or six years ago, 100-150 would come each month. So definitely, different demographic, more of the people who have been investing a while, and we're, I decided this year to go online instead. And I said, let me give that a try, because I've been hearing from other club leaders around the country that that was working out well for them, and it was also encouraging new people to come. And so I have seen that. I've seen an uptick and new folks coming and joining us online. It feels to me that the lower the barrier to entry, if somebody can just join, you know, anonymously, online and come sit in on one of your meetings, that seems to be what people are looking for these days. I could be wrong. We're testing it out right now to see how that's working, and so far, it's been working well, and we've had, I think, even better, participation once the meeting is over, we sit around and chat a little bit, kind of in an open forum, and that has actually worked out better than even my in person meetings did from a networking perspective. So I'm liking what I'm seeing there, but I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to add on some in person meetings as well. I'm still playing around with that, and kind of would like to see the online number get to a certain place before I go back to in person.

Joey Romero:

So Dan, how are you guys running the club? And what's the demographical demographic look like now?

Dan Redig:

Well, so how we're running the club? In addition to what I said earlier about our classes, we've got five or six classes. I'm trying to add three more by the end of the year, various topics, we have a main monthly meeting, and I think networking, aside from the education and support component, is the most important thing I can provide. And so we start our

networking at 4:

30 and our main speaker doesn't go our program doesn't start until seven. So with that, we have a beautiful facility that we go to right on the water, in San Diego, and we have dinner and drinks included in the ticket, so that people can come straight from work or whatever they were doing, and just get in there and get busy. It's, ipretty affordable. So if you're a member and you register ahead of time, it's 20 bucks. So I think that's pretty awesome deal to include food and drinks. So that runs to, we have our main program, and we talk about, we have a series of things we go through with our sponsors to celebrate them and show how they can provide value to our members. And then we have haves and wants, where people talk about things they have or things they want, how they're trying to put deals together in front of the audience, 32nd pitch fest, basically. So our demographic these days, you know, periodically I'm starting the meeting, I like to say, hey, raise your hand if you're doing this or doing that. And it's been changing a little bit. ADUs are starting to pop up.

Joey Romero:

I was gonna say, speaking of that, my next question was gonna be, what's unique about, you know, investing in your area. I'm gonna ask everybody else. But so in San Diego is that, would you say that that's the most unique thing that...

Dan Redig:

It's getting. Yeah, it's getting there. There's what really makes San Diego so unique, and why ADUs are being driven is because we're encroached on by the desert, you know.

Joey Romero:

And landlocked.

Dan Redig:

Yeah, super landlocked. Cleveland National Forest on one side Mexico the Pacific Ocean, which I never want to tangle with on the wrong way. And Camp Pendleton to the north. And there's this little sliver that squeaks out towards the north, northeast, through Escondido and Temecula. And so there is no more land you got to go, either fill in the spots you got or go up. And so that's we're seeing a real dramatic push. In fact, I just changed over all my investments to ADU builds. If that tells you anything, you know, hopefully I'm not wrong.

Joey Romero:

So Larry, what's what's unique about investing in the Coachella.

Larry French:

So we're really unique out here. Remember, I just was mentioning how we're a vacation destination. So our total population, there's 11 Cities out here. Well, nine cities and two unincorporated areas. If you add the population of those cities together, we're a little under 600,000 people total. So we're small. I mean, add Long Beach and maybe one other city, and you've got 600,000 people right there. Yeah, there you go. So it we're relatively small. We you get to know people here, which I like, that's been interesting, you know. And sometimes you get to know them and they go away, and that's a good thing. Or sometimes they keep showing up, and that's a good thing. We're relatively close to large markets, let's say like San Diego and Lisa your market. So we will have out of area folks come in to work our markets. And there are a lot of talents, people that do come in and work our markets, but we also see some people that don't understand the dynamics. We have a couple unique dynamics. One is, of course, the tourist buyer or the tourist client. The other is, we have a large collection of mid century modern homes that have extra value attached to them because their original mid century modern homes from the 50s and 60s. And sometimes those homes might be scattered right around next door to homes built in the 1970s in the similar square footage. And so we have seen folks get hurt because they don't understand some of the local dynamics. So we like to talk about that, make sure people understand some of those types of concepts. But that's been really unique. I mean, that's definitely something unique about us. You know, Joey, really quick. You asked about demographics? I was thinking about it today. We had two wholesalers. This is at about 15 people, 16 people. We had two wholesalers show up. We had one all time guy, investor, who's not really doing anything. He's very well off, but he loves showing up, and if the deal was right, he'd jump into it. We had two mortgage brokers. We had one real estate agent. Now, the mortgage broker's and this agent are investors too, but they are making a living doing that. And then about the other eight of us are some form of remodeler or flipper. And then the final two, I'd say, if you add it all up, haven't done anything and are excited to just learn. So they haven't really chosen a path. So that's that was a kind of a split of who is there today.

Joey Romero:

So it's a good range?

Larry French:

It's a nice variety of folks. It's great to get different folks, some professionals, some new it's always cool.

Joey Romero:

So Lisa, what's unique about the South Bay?

Lisa Hoegler:

I would say similar to Dan. So the South Bay Area, if you're not familiar with it, I would, easiest way to kind of describe it would be sort of south of LAX. That's the way I would categorize that all the way down to maybe Long Beach area and everything in between. So we are definitely landlocked, like Dan mentioned, and there's just not a lot of room for new new build opportunities. That said, right, there's a lot of interest in ADUs, and there's a lot of interest in tear downs and building higher density units, especially in the Redondo Beach area and the beach cities area. We have a lot of 10,000 square foot lots there, so you can tear those down and possibly build three units on that. So most of the new build work or the rehab work that's done in our area, I would say, is generally for sale. And a lot of the people who are investing for to buy and hold, for example, they tend to be in the lower cost areas, maybe in the Long Beach area, maybe in our in Gardena, or out of the area entirely. So we don't get a lot of new builds and flip in our area. Specifically, there is some obviously, because we have old housing stock. But we do see people, especially if they're interested in those rental units, they're kind of going to lower price point areas.

Joey Romero:

Have you been? Are you close enough to have seen the impact of like SoFi and the new clipper arena, the areas around their development that's come, that's coming and come?

Lisa Hoegler:

Yeah, that's actually right in what I would call the South Bay area as well. So those areas are pretty unique, and they were pretty, in pretty bad shape when all that renovation started. I would argue that from a real estate investment perspective, although people have been, have been marketing all their properties, oh, we're, you know, a half mile from the stadium, or we're a quarter mile from the stadium, we really haven't seen enough development there that's trickled into the residential and the housing yet. There is, there is obviously some, but it's not the parts that were developed and the parts that are still being developed. They've definitely turned over, but it hasn't necessarily raised their values very much, because what's bordering that whole stadium area is still, you know, 800 square foot. In most cases, 100.

Joey Romero:

You're not getting a million dollar Compton house?

Lisa Hoegler:

No, and they're not, they still don't attract the highest quality tenant. So there's still some pretty rough areas around there. I mean, who knows where it'll be in 15 years, but it's not there yet.

Joey Romero:

So let me shift a little bit. Larry, I want to ask you this first now, you guys are just a luncheon, but do you still have a speaker? And if you do still have speakers, who's been the most dynamic speaker the last 12 months that you've had?

Larry French:

So I don't have speakers. So I can't ask you that, that last question, but I can tell you a few great ones we've had over the last 15 years. The format of the club changed at COVID. Now, Lisa, you were saying, kind of, you had some changes a little bit, or anything, of some changes to COVID too. So I didn't want to go online when, you know when things were shut down, and run another, yet another club online. We all seem to jump online at the time. So we just stopped. And when the restrictions were lifted, we I turned it into a lunch. So I run this as a nonprofit. I've never had anybody have a product to sell, or if they do, I don't, I ask them not to talk about it, and I won't take any splits. You know, some of the people that run clubs as a business, they do the whole 50/50 thing, and we never do that. There's no fee to go to our club. You just have to buy your well, you don't even have to buy yourself lunch. We ask that you buy yourself lunch. So it's really the what the format it's in right now, Joey is set up for something that for the type of work I want to do, because I run it. So I'm comfortable spending the four or$500 meetup for meetup.com out of my own pocket. And other than that, that's just a loss. There's no money coming in. There's nothing. So that's kind of what it is. I just, I guess I just host a lunch for people and say to show up and talk. And the format right now is, I'll usually introduce everybody a little bit like you do, Dan, with the haves and wants I will do ask everybody do a quick 30 seconds, and then they never hang the 30 seconds. But that's fine. And 30 seconds get to know...

Dan Redig:

That goes for you too, huh?

Larry French:

Yeah, apparently, yes. After that, then I ge,t I

Joey Romero:

Yeah, that's what's really cool about all the clubs. yap for about 15 to 20 minutes and try to hold the attention of the whole table. And it's difficult at a lunch because you have waiters. Remember, if you guys ever host lunch, if you're planning on lunches and you expect to hold attention, it's difficult and send the foods being placed. So usually the speaker is me trying to engage people in a current topic for the first 15 or 20 minutes. And then I even say this at the beginning, hey, we're gonna we're gonna chat all together for the first 10, 15, minutes, 20 minutes, and then you're all going to talk to seat, you're going to just chat the people next to you. If the person next to you is boring, get your butt up and go sit to somebody next to that you heard their haves and wants anything interesting. So this is, and I also tell everybody at the beginning of the meeting, the quality of the experience you're going to have here today is almost 100% dependent on your participation level. If you show up and sit down here for lunch and just wait for people to tell you and talk, you know, talk to you and teach you things, you're probably gonna leave a little bored. But if you show up and you participate and you you help the person next to you, and you ask for their help, might find this. This this is valuable to you, so I encourage you to be look at it that way. So that's what we do regarding great speakers. Um, sorry for taking so much time, but I'll do this really fast. We invited Peter Aldana. He was, I don't know if he currently is, the Riverside county tax assessor, like the one that gets voted in by all US tax taxpayers, and he was super interesting. There's so much more to that role than we ever thought. And another really interesting folk person we had in was a gentleman named Robert Fay. And Robert Fay, he's since passed away. He helped create and build hundreds and hundreds of homes that are out here on built on Indian land. So through the Palm Springs area, we have a checkerboard full of private sea land, and next door might be a square mile of Indian land that are owned by the local tribes. And they look the same because there could be a housing track on the Indian land and a housing track on the sea land. And it was really interesting to hear how all of that started. Who owns the leases, how to negotiate with a tribe if you have to extend leases, and it was just a part of real estate. I've never really heard or been learned from anybody else. You never know what nuggets or what you know what takeaways you're gonna get go home with those those nights. I remember going with Bruce and Aaron to your club, and, you know, going upstairs, and...

Larry French:

Yeah.

Joey Romero:

You know. And it's always really interesting to see what you can come on with. Lisa, who's been, who would you say has been the most dynamic speaker that you've had in the last 12 months?

Lisa Hoegler:

Similar, we don't have a lot of selling speakers. I might have one a year and depending on the topic, but what I've found for myself is that there aren't as many speakers on the circuit anymore, and I find that because of the folks that are coming to LA South REIA, they're really interested in what's going on locally and the local market. And like I said, we talked about macroeconomics and things like that. So I don't have as many, what I would call professional speakers anymore. I usually will invite people from the local community who are in real estate, whether it's wholesalers, whether it's high performing realtors that are...

Joey Romero:

Somebody who's killing it out there, right?

Lisa Hoegler:

What's that?

Joey Romero:

Somebody was killing it out there.

Lisa Hoegler:

Killing it out there, because they're feeling what's going on in the market as well. But one of my favorites, I actually have two favorites that I would always default to, especially for people who are learning, I love Anthony Chara. Anthony Chara teaches multifamily investing, and he is, in my opinion, he's one of the best instructors on that topic. He does just an amazing job with students walking you from knowing nothing all the way through buying your first multiplex. So he's always been one of my favorites. And I actually did have him, or had him come talk to the group. Within the last year, he was my only, you know, outside speaker like that. And then another one that I always like. I don't know that he speaks as much anymore, but maybe his company still does. Is George Antone, with the finance company. And he, George is a, what I would call a recovering real estate investor, and so he likes to help real estate investors also build their wealth at the same time they're doing real estate. And he has a lot of really amazing programs that help people retire sooner with the income that they're generating from real estate. So I find that that's like a really nice compatible and add on to what we do and what we teach people at the clubs.

Joey Romero:

Nice. Dan, who's been the most dynamic?

Dan Redig:

Well, I got two, I think the first one, the one I remember the best, is last November. We had Matt and Craig from Stay Classy San Diego. They run an ADU management company, and they provided so much information, were so engaging, and know the community so well, because this is where they do all their investing, the meeting dragged on. We had to get out of the space, you know, we were asking people to leave. It was, it was a fantastic meeting, and they absolutely crushed it. The other one was, we have Patrick, who's our kind of local realtor who pushes everybody as hard as possible to invest in the San Diego area, and he's got it all figured out, and he gets super excited and jumps around and tells everybody's stories about it. This area is this, and this is that, and really gets them pumped up. So it's, it's pretty awesome.

Joey Romero:

That's cool. All right, everyone that's gonna do it for part one of our investor club roundup show, our third edition, be sure to tune in next week for part two. Thanks

Narrator:

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