In this episode, Andy and John talk telecom with Mike O'Dell of Comcast. They discuss the future of coax in telecom, the transition to an engineering role, and the potential of coax in the cable industry. They also explore the challenges of upgrading coax networks for DOCSIS 4.0 and the importance of training the workforce for coax networks. Mike shares insights on the involvement of industry pioneers in training the next generation and the importance of preserving tribal knowledge. They also discuss the five pillars of coax networks and the efforts to train the existing workforce through YouTube.