OLP 037: A Pro Malewife Podcast

In this episode of Or, Learn Parkour, Lex and Jordan try their hand at developing some new and intriguing brand names for ADHD medications. Watch your back, Big Pharma. Also, a sequel to Joaquin Phoenix's "Her," Colin Firth in a wetsuit, and an attempt to answer the age-old question: can whales have ADHD?

CW/TW: Mental health, ADHD,  loud noises, yelling, whale noises, mouth noises, coughing, enemas, prescription drugs, mention of alcohol use.

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:00

There is a dark place, but I'm not going there. No, no, there is a dark, but

Speaker 2 0:28

Hi, I'm Jordan and I'm L and this is or learn parkour.

Speaker 3 0:34

Is it? You said it so slow. Hello? Okay. Well, I don't know. Hello? Okay. This

Speaker 2 0:45

Is the pod. A podcast for whale.

Speaker 4 0:48

Oh

Speaker 3 0:49

No, it's not. You silly goose. You silly Billy.

Speaker 2 0:55

What? It's not,

Speaker 3 0:57

No. It's about ADHD.

Speaker 2 1:00

Whales can have

Speaker 3 1:01

ADHD. Can they?

Speaker 2 1:03

I kind of hope so.

Speaker 3 1:05

Okay. Uh, once we crack the code on, on whale sounds Uhhuh. We'll find out Uhhuh, stay tuned to everyone. Uhhuh. This episode of, or parkour apparently brought to you by like David Attenborough or something. But Hey, we, we talk about ADHD here and you know why? Because we have ADHD,

Speaker 2 1:23

We sure do.

Speaker 3 1:24

We're just a couple of Dinges. Don't, don't worry. We're not professionals. Uh, we're here to just, you know, sometimes maybe give you advice or helpful tips and tricks, but mostly we're just here for you to feel a little seen.

Speaker 2 1:36

Hopefully. Yeah. It's mostly just don't make our mistake type advice, um, on O L P

Speaker 3 1:43

Famously the best kind.

Speaker 2 1:45

True, true. The most entertaining kind. We'd like to think mm-hmm<affirmative> but yeah, here we are dishing out some info and advice and life stories and whale noises. You know, what more could you ask for?

Speaker 3 2:03

No, no, you're supposed to translate. Come on.

Speaker 2 2:05

I'm sorry. I said yes. And in a different direction, but

Speaker 4 2:09

<laugh>,

Speaker 2 2:11

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just, I have to get into the translator mindset. Like that's really, that's really a lot of effort. That's really specific brain space. Translation's hard work.

Speaker 3 2:20

Yeah. I mean, I wasn't saying it's not just, you know, you wanna know what whales are thinking. I do get to it. God, doesn't give you a problem that he doesn't think you can handle.<laugh> that's what my mom always tells me.

Speaker 2 2:33

So I should just go jump in the ocean right now with our blue Yeti microphone. Yeah. Swim over there and be like,

Speaker 4 2:44

Whoa.

Speaker 3 2:50

And then you'd like resurface. Right? Mm-hmm<affirmative> and you would've, you would've cracked the code. Oh sure. And yeah, absolutely. Like within minutes I'm I'm positive. Cuz ADHD is a superpower

Speaker 2 3:01

Uhhuh.

Speaker 3 3:01

That's what that means, right? Yeah. Right. And so you'd come back and then you'd be like, so what's it sound like I'm so excited to tell you and show you mm-hmm<affirmative> and then we press play and it's like, yeah. Okay. You ready? And toss it in. And then it's cause the Yeti microphone didn't survive. Anything past hitting in the water.

Speaker 2 3:25

Yeah.<laugh> I don't, I don't even think the USB cord would stretch long enough to get it close.

Speaker 3 3:36

Can we just appreciate my fo work so far?

Speaker 2 3:39

No, honestly, really, really spectacular. Thank you. The, the really painted a picture for me.

Speaker 3 3:46

Thank you. I've been really committed to the lines of minor characters and I mean like just, absolutely not even named characters that have those one or two lines of throw away dialogue where you know that some writer was just like, I just gotta get this joke in there somewhere.<laugh> I just gotta get this random story or this random plot point. I just gotta, I gotta raise some questions for the audience and never answer them

Speaker 2 4:16

In this case. Are you suggesting that the Yeti microphone is a minor character of our podcast?

Speaker 3 4:21

No. The, the person who said yeah, tosser in. Mm

Speaker 2 4:27

I see. That's like a bit that could be like a cameo part for someone.

Speaker 3 4:30

It doesn't even need to be a cameo, but

Speaker 2 4:32

It, but it could

Speaker 3 4:33

Be, it could be, but like why, why is your up? You know, I, well, I'm, I'm coming here for the story. I'm coming here for the acting. Here's the thing I'm here for the face value.

Speaker 2 4:42

I'm here for Colin Firth in a wetsuit. So

Speaker 3 4:45

Yeah, but the person who says toss em in and wouldn't be Colin Firth in a wetsuit.

Speaker 2 4:49

Why

Speaker 3 4:50

Not? Because that would be the person doing like a pulley system, lever thing for like whatever weird cage you're in.

Speaker 2 4:56

And he can't be wearing a wetsuit doing that. Why?

Speaker 3 5:00

Because what? Okay. Why would you want Colin first to be a minor character? That's what I'm trying to think. Do you, do you see what I mean? Yeah. Like the, the whole point of, of the, this sort of trope, right. Is to not put a big face in there because it is about nothing but the lines and what it adds or doesn't add to the plot. Mm. Do you know what I mean? I see like the whole point of it is the anonymity, because don't get me wrong to clarify everybody back home. I am not against Colin Furth in a wet suit.

Speaker 2 5:33

This is a Colin Furth hate podcast. Now.

Speaker 3 5:37

Excuse him, more

Speaker 2 5:39

Puddle. Does the vibes. I'm getting

Speaker 3 5:41

The framed picture of Colin Firth that has been sitting on our entryway bar table thing for four years. I would say argues otherwise.

Speaker 2 5:52

God has it been a four years?

Speaker 3 5:54

Yeah. We've lived here for so long.

Speaker 5 5:58

I know.

Speaker 3 5:59

Wild. Yeah. Just gotta take a beat now. Just wow. Wow. Anyways, love Colin Firth. But do you see what I mean?

Speaker 2 6:08

Yeah. Yeah. I see.

Speaker 3 6:09

I see. And then maybe like after the one person's like, all right, yeah. Toss her in. And then you just hear the tail end of their conversation that they get back to. Right. Cause they they're having a conversation and then they're like, oh, you gotta toss her in mm-hmm<affirmative> and then you hear just the, the, just a snippet of like, and then so, you know, then my wife back home, you know how she is? She says, and then nothing. And you just you're left. You're left with that nugget of, was he gonna say something good? Something bad? What about his wife? Right? Why do you specify his wife back home? Does he have two? Does he have more? Who is to say,

Speaker 2 6:44

Is he specifying like his wife back home or his boyfriend back home? Like which partner

Speaker 3 6:50

Like could be a male wife

Speaker 2 6:52

Could be, could be a male wife. That's an incredibly good point that I didn't even consider. This is a pro whale. PROCO proma wife podcast.

Speaker 5 7:08

Thank

Speaker 3 7:09

You for tuning. See you two weeks.

Speaker 5 7:17

Oh,

Speaker 2 7:17

I wonder we just released that

Speaker 5 7:21

<laugh>

Speaker 2 7:22

But you worked so

Speaker 3 7:23

Hard on the drugs

Speaker 2 7:28

And then we end it right there. And little, what about the drugs? Is it your drugs back home or is it your and your right?

Speaker 3 7:39

The, somebody get this, somebody get these Shroom, some CAERS and a made outfit right now.

Speaker 2 7:52

It's not what it looks like.

Speaker 5 7:57

Oh,

Speaker 3 7:58

My face, my face. Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:00

Take a beat. Take a beat row.

Speaker 3 8:01

Oh, thank you. Okay.

Speaker 2 8:03

Did we mention that this is an ADHD podcast?

Speaker 3 8:07

We, we did to our credit mm-hmm<affirmative> and we also did confirm we're not experts.

Speaker 5 8:11

<laugh>

Speaker 2 8:11

That's true. I'm glad we I'm glad we try and hit, hit that one hard.

Speaker 3 8:15

Try to come out the gate swinging with that one. Sometimes we do forget to say it right away cuz you know, the whole ADHD thing mm-hmm<affirmative> go figure. Um, interesting. But uh,

Speaker 5 8:26

<laugh> welcome.

Speaker 3 8:32

Okay. Alright. Well, yeah. It's June and you know, that's not quite summer yet just cuz it's June. Yeah. But June means that summer will be here by the end of this month.

Speaker 2 8:43

And I mean, we, we just passed Memorial day. I feel like that is a very agreed upon unofficial beginning of

Speaker 3 8:49

Summer. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like how labor day is like an unofficial end. Yeah. Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 8:54

So we are in the post Memorial day pre-labor day zone mm-hmm<affirmative> and I'm I'm comfortable calling that summer.

Speaker 3 9:01

Yes. Uh, it granted just cuz it's our favorite season doesn't mean that uh, the whole world is beautiful and roses and it also, you know, doesn't mean that uh, our ADHD is cured by any means, but no, the sunshine it is nice. Mm-hmm<affirmative>

Speaker 2 9:16

Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. The seasonal depression has um,

Speaker 3 9:19

Receded,

Speaker 2 9:20

Receded, dissipated, somewhat mm-hmm

Speaker 3 9:22

<affirmative> regular depression still there,

Speaker 2 9:24

Still there, but you know, one, one less brick in my shoe.

Speaker 3 9:29

Yeah. So, so you know, obviously not much going on in the world, I think things are pretty chill, right? Yeah. So, um, they're not and things are bad. So our usual sort of like, Hey, take care of each other, take care of yourselves, make sure you're taking time to rest and drink water, et cetera.

Speaker 2 9:48

Especially drink water

Speaker 3 9:50

Please. But that said we're here to be little dumb, dumb idiots to put on a little show for you little court gestures to, to talk about stupid little things that will make your stupid little dopamine receptors, fire up

Speaker 2 10:04

A jingly hat would be terrible audio. But you can just like, imagine that we're wearing those mm-hmm<affirmative> you, you can paint that picture for yourself.

Speaker 3 10:12

Yeah. So, uh, I think one could say this week we're we're taking on the role of, uh, two very important courtly positions. I would say

Speaker 2 10:22

The pharmacists,

Speaker 3 10:25

Like the wizard, like the magician, like the, the one who, who whispers things, you know, and is like kind of the secret controller of the leader

Speaker 2 10:35

Like that. Yeah. That very right hand Rasputin kind of yes. Mystical figure mm-hmm<affirmative> yes.

Speaker 3 10:44

So the pharmacist.

Speaker 2 10:45

Yes mm-hmm<affirmative> so yeah. Today we're gonna invent some drugs.

Speaker 3 10:50

Yeah. And me I'm just a Dingus. I'm what we call the straight man, which I know it's June. So hear me out<laugh> but I so that you are

Speaker 2 11:02

Sorry, this month it's the ally man.

Speaker 3 11:05

Yeah.<laugh> that was the ugliest laugh I've ever laughed. I'm so sorry. Oh it's okay. It's okay. Um, yes. So, oh yeah. Happy pride month everyone.<laugh> woo, yay. So much to be. Okay. Um, so, uh, anyways, we promised to keep it light. Just like clenching my butt cheeks. So hard. Um, happy pride. Heavy pride. Yes. Glittered. Rainbows. No hate crimes here. Just

Speaker 2 11:46

Patio and two for one animals.<laugh> I'm I'm so sorry. I don't know. What's gotten into me tonight. I do. That's a lie. It's a gin.

Speaker 5 11:58

<laugh>

Speaker 3 12:02

So you have Rasputin<laugh> and well, uh, it canonically canonically you know, not just in history, but also in this podcast. Mm-hmm<affirmative> it's not a court J who, who keeps rebutting company.

Speaker 5 12:21

<laugh>

Speaker 2 12:23

Are you gonna do the voice?

Speaker 5 12:24

<laugh> I'm trying to remember

Speaker 3 12:26

His name.

Speaker 2 12:28

I'm just looking up. I

Speaker 3 12:29

Poor talk. Yeah. Master.

Speaker 2 12:34

Yes.

Speaker 3 12:35

Oh<laugh>

Speaker 5 12:37

<laugh>

Speaker 2 12:38

I was my re and boy. Oh God, we killed L uh, well this has been an or Lauren parkour, uh, podcast.

Speaker 3 12:48

No master. You have

Speaker 5 12:52

Kids<laugh>

Speaker 3 12:55

I can't,

Speaker 2 12:56

We, we don't have to do the voices. That's

Speaker 3 12:58

Okay. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> so, but bar talk little, the little bat. Yeah. I would argue

Speaker 2 13:04

Everyone loves the little

Speaker 3 13:04

Bat, you know, historically accurate. Yeah. Side kick, rest beating. Yeah.

Speaker 2 13:12

Match.

Speaker 3 13:14

Yeah. And he talks like this and he's, you know? Oh, Mester. And um, why,

Speaker 2 13:19

Why, if he is a, a Russian bat, does he sound like he's from Minnesota cold? Yeah.

Speaker 5 13:27

<laugh>

Speaker 2 13:29

You got me there.

Speaker 3 13:31

Okay.

Speaker 2 13:31

God, we gotta do this podcast. My thighs are already so

Speaker 3 13:34

Sweaty. I'm so sorry. Okay. Yeah. Let's let's make some drugs.

Speaker 2 13:38

Let's make some drugs. So today we are going to talk about, uh, if we got to name ADHD, medications, what we might name them. And, and there's actually a lot of interesting information on the internet about how prescription drugs are named. Uh, I went down a big old rabbit hole with this. It was a fun time. Some companies are very secretive about their process, cuz it's like a very, uh, unfortunately lucrative industry and God forbids. They lose their money

Speaker 3 14:15

Bastard.

Speaker 5 14:15

<laugh>

Speaker 2 14:19

Well done

Speaker 3 14:20

Too ugly. Laughs good. Good. But um, not saying your laughs ugly, but just like too. No,

Speaker 2 14:25

It's terrible. And I'm proud of

Speaker 3 14:26

It. Like when I say ugly, I don't actually mean ugly. I just mean like honks.

Speaker 2 14:30

I like fle moving. Yeah,

Speaker 3 14:34

Yeah, yeah. No know saying like mm-hmm

Speaker 5 14:35

<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative>

Speaker 2 14:37

But uh, basically drugs when they are developed, get three names. The first one is basically like a code with numbers and that's like the official like compound name for scientific reasons. Okay. And then there's the generic name, for example, like bupropion and then the copyrighted company specific name like Wellbutrin or Zertech

Speaker 3 15:04

Gotcha.

Speaker 2 15:05

Or Prozac like those kind of things. Uhhuh<affirmative> and there is some amount of science to the, the generic name. Like there is a big list of different like word roots and like letters. That mean the drugs act in a certain way. For example, this is the example they kept using online. So I'm so sorry. But uh, SIL, which is the generic name for Viagra.

Speaker 3 15:31

I was like, why are you apologizing? I see. Yeah. Okay. So

Speaker 2 15:36

A fill is a, a part of a word that refers to like the, the way that that medication works and like opening mm-hmm blood flow. Mm-hmm<affirmative> it's not, it's not Dick specific mm-hmm

Speaker 3 15:47

<affirmative> yeah. But, but it's they sure do use it that way.

Speaker 2 15:50

Yeah. Yeah. So that's kind of how the generic name gets put together. Mm-hmm<affirmative> is, it is more specifically referential to like what is in the drug and how it works. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like, you know, Adderall and those kind of related things are called like I amphetamine or like methamphetamine or methamphetamine because it has those compounds in it. Yeah. However, mm-hmm,<affirmative> the company name, which you can, you can kind of give them a little more razzled dazzle with is what we're gonna focus on today. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and there are a couple guidelines for that. You have to kind of stay away from using any of those like word roots. That mean certain things. If they're not accurate to the drug, can't be the name of another drug can't like specifically say that the drug is going to give you a certain result. For example, Chantix, the smoking cessation medication is called Chantix in other countries, but the FDA said that they couldn't call it that because it was too close to sounding like the word champion.

Speaker 3 16:57

Okay.

Speaker 2 16:58

Yeah. Cool. So you have to kind of be vague and mm-hmm,<affirmative> kind of pretentious and

Speaker 3 17:05

Yeah. Wow. Snake oil salesman really did a number on the pharmaceutical world. Huh?

Speaker 2 17:09

Yeah.<laugh> uh, so we have those kind of guidelines. We have some things that kind of vaguely are more ephemerally reference the way that drugs work. Mm-hmm<affirmative> I can't think of any examples of those right now, cuz like I mentioned earlier gin, but for that to give us a little bit of inspiration, I was gonna give us like a quick little overview of just like how ADHD medications tend to work

Speaker 3 17:38

That. Sure. Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 2 17:40

So there are two main types of ADHD medications. You have your stimulants and your non stimulants. I take stimulant medication and non stimulant medication, uh, which is fun. So stimulants are gonna be kind of the things that we're more used to. That's your Adderall, that's your Ritalin, you know those ones. So we know that ADHD is probably a dysfunction with the way that your brain deals with like serotonin dopamine and Norine right?

Speaker 3 18:16

Yeah. We, yeah like we're not experts. Yeah. I've never seen Jordan look at me with so much earnestness of wanting to be affirmed and I've never felt like I was about to let her down more than just no, no you're

Speaker 2 18:32

You're great. I

Speaker 3 18:33

Just,

Speaker 2 18:34

That wasn't until like, I need you to tell me I'm right about drugs. That was a, like I've been talking for a very long time and I wanna just like open that gate a little

Speaker 3 18:42

Bit. Oh fair. Yeah. No, I just figured you, you said you had some, some overview stuff you wanted to do before we got to goofin. So I was just letting you nip through it as quick as possible.

Speaker 2 18:51

Yeah. Appreciate that.

Speaker 3 18:52

Yeah. I can interject more if you like, but you, when I interrupt it derails us quite a bit. So

Speaker 2 18:57

It does. But like I said, we're not experts. So I don't think anyone turns into this podcast cuz they're like really genuinely curious about breaking medical science.

Speaker 3 19:06

Well, you say turns into this podcast.

Speaker 2 19:08

So tunes.

Speaker 3 19:09

I think you might have said turned. No, don't take it again. Leave it. It's funny. Think about it. You are become podcast audience member.<laugh>

Speaker 2 19:17

Nobody turns into a podcast because if you did and you woke up and you're like, oh, I'm a podcast. Your boss would probably still be like you, but can you still come to work? You don't have any sick hours left. You're like, dude, I'm a podcast.

Speaker 3 19:34

Yeah. Like I'm just a collection of sound waves. Mm-hmm<affirmative> that are saved in an audio file and shared publicly.

Speaker 2 19:41

I'm just, I'm just eye imagery at this point. Mm-hmm<affirmative> no Al form. Just the idea.

Speaker 3 19:49

Yeah. Wow. I loved the movie. Her

Speaker 2 19:55

Make a sequel to that is just called him.

Speaker 3 19:58

It's about a dude. It's about a straight white CIS man who turns into a podcast. I got me so fast. Oh no.

Speaker 2 20:12

There's like a super tragic scene at the end where she's just like, I love you, but I'm unsubscribing.

Speaker 5 20:19

<laugh> and then,

Speaker 3 20:22

And then you just hear before it gets cut off from the, from the unsubscribing, you just hear, well you were a anyway. God happy pride month. Keep, keep going. Tell me more.

Speaker 2 20:46

This, this is really the hetero. Like this is really the homosexual agenda is like, you know, men marrying men, women marrying women. What's next women marrying podcasts.

Speaker 5 20:58

<laugh>

Speaker 2 21:04

Happy pride.

Speaker 5 21:07

<laugh>

Speaker 3 21:08

What a wedding. What

Speaker 2 21:10

A beautiful wedding.

Speaker 3 21:11

Oh God. Um, it's just the bride up there with AirPods in

Speaker 5 21:16

<laugh>

Speaker 3 21:18

The priest tries to talk to her to get things going and she's like, oh, sorry. I just have a couple more minutes. Hold on. I'll put it on I'll I'll bump it up. Speed.

Speaker 5 21:26

<laugh>

Speaker 2 21:27

It's really how the arguments start as you just start fast forwarding through it are myON parks. Not enough for you anymore.

Speaker 5 21:39

I can't. I can't okay. This okay.

Speaker 2 21:48

So ADHD meds mm-hmm<affirmative> we're still not quite sure, but a lot of the research, like a lot of the leading research is like, it's probably this, uh, so most medications, whether they're stimulants or non stimulants target that, uh, stimulants target that by stimula sting, your central nervous system to either create more dopamine, serotonin nor epinephrine or those chemicals themselves get into your nervous system and behave in place of those chemicals. You have more of them. For those of you who don't know like me, uh, before reading a lot of articles on the internet yesterday, those chemicals are important because they're what help messages from your neurons and your brain travel from one neuron to the other and then like messages get across your brain thoughts and. Yeah. And if you don't have enough of those chemicals, then you're

Speaker 3 22:48

<laugh>. Yeah.

Speaker 2 22:49

But there's, there's, there's a couple ways that you can get more of those. You can get stimulated to create more or have more in your brain or non stimulant medications are inhibitors of the process in your neurons that like suck those chemicals back in before they can make it to the other neuron. So if you're familiar with antidepressants and you've heard SSRIs, that's selective that's yeah. That's a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor. So reuptake is that process, uh, and SSRI keeps your neuron from like sucking back that chemical being like I need, this is men now you can't have any to your other neuron. Let's it kind of play in that space a little longer.

Speaker 3 23:34

Yeah. Like it's like no share. Yeah. Share.

Speaker 2 23:37

Yeah. Yeah. Sharing is caring neurons. Mm-hmm<affirmative> anyways. Uh, so that's how non stimulants work is. They interrupt that re-uptake process to get more of those same neurotransmitter chemicals able to use in your brain. Yeah. Sweet. So that's kind of your overview of that. For example, Stratera I think is the most common non stimulant medication, uh, it's specifically a norepinephrine, no

Speaker 3 24:08

Norepinephrine

Speaker 2 24:09

Norepinephrine<laugh> reuptake inhibitor, Wellbutrin, which I am on for the depression is a dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor Effexor, which was also used for ADHD is a serotonin and Norine retic inhibitor. So you can really just hit all your bases with these guys.

Speaker 3 24:29

Yeah.

Speaker 2 24:30

And that's why like other medications that are used off-label are some sort of like neuron agonist, reuptake inhibitor situation. So we have some keywords in there. You know, we have those brain chemical sounds that we can work with.

Speaker 3 24:47

This is like a lot, like this is, you put a lot of effort into this. I was just planning to come in here and be like, yeah, give me some, some zoom, zoom pills.<laugh> like, I that's kind of where I was going. So like, I love this, but I will say I'm like my coincidentally I'm having trouble keeping my brain, the dopamine focused on it.

Speaker 2 25:10

No, but I mean, we can, we can start with that. That's literally, I was reading an article about how they come up with their NA names for medications mm-hmm<affirmative> and they're like, yeah, we start with like 5,000 different words and then narrow it down to like 10. So we could start with zoom, zoom and be like, we have that repetition. We have that like zoom, the idea of like going faster, like focusing in like what can we do with that? I'm so sorry. The marketer is just like jumping out right now.

Speaker 3 25:35

Yeah. No

Speaker 2 25:36

I'm, I'm proud of it.

Speaker 3 25:38

Yeah.

Speaker 2 25:38

But you're on the right track. Cuz apparently Zs are used like the letter Z, uh, is used more than 18 times more frequently in medication names than the rest of the English language.

Speaker 3 25:50

So that tracks 100%

Speaker 2 25:52

Zoom, zoom pills. Did you watch that show on PBS zoom?

Speaker 3 25:55

I watched Zuma Fu

Speaker 2 25:56

Different one, but also good.

Speaker 3 25:58

But no,

Speaker 2 25:59

It's a good one.

Speaker 3 26:00

Cool. If you've heard of this show,

Speaker 2 26:02

Come on and zoom, come on and zoom come on. And Zuma, Zuma Z like two people out there who are gonna have like a big flashback and the rest of you. I'm so

Speaker 3 26:15

Sorry. No, no, don't apologize.

Speaker 2 26:18

I ate a lot of coffee beans at work today.

Speaker 3 26:20

Coffee and gin. Let's make some drugs<laugh>

Speaker 2 26:25

Yeah. So, okay. So zoom, zoom. How can we make that word sound like a prescription medication

Speaker 3 26:32

Zoom. Uh, let's see. So zoom are all zoom

Speaker 2 26:37

Could do like a zoom in. I was gonna go for a fill again and that's wrong. Mm-hmm<affirmative>

Speaker 3 26:42

Mm-hmm<affirmative><affirmative> what are the ending? The suffixes usually for ADHD drugs.

Speaker 2 26:48

So things that block Norf an reuptake are called like faxing vaccine or Fen. Okay. But those endings are only for the generic names. What that are like just based on what the medication does. Okay. That's not ever gonna be like the brand brand name, which is where

Speaker 3 27:09

We're doing. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. See, I think that also was very unclear cuz fair. So if we're doing branding what's the so it's just something that sounds snappy. Mm-hmm<affirmative> but isn't too like hasn't been used yet. Yep. Okay. Zoom, zoom pills.

Speaker 5 27:23

<laugh>

Speaker 2 27:30

Great. Great podcast done. Nailed it. Call the FDA. Let him know Adderalls canceled.

Speaker 3 27:45

Gimme my zoom, zoom pills.

Speaker 2 27:48

<laugh> I feel like that is along the lines of like very specifically the names that trans people come up with for estrogen or testosterone top notch. Yeah. Like I heard someone call the call it like estrogen, Skittles. Oh good. And that rules.

Speaker 3 28:05

It does.

Speaker 2 28:06

That's incredible.

Speaker 3 28:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2 28:08

Um,

Speaker 3 28:08

I'm really sorry that my brain automatically wants to turn it into a port Manto and say tittles

Speaker 2 28:15

See the awkward thing is that tittles like almost sounds like a children's book character, except for the fact that the word tit is in it, it

Speaker 3 28:21

Sounds like a British goodbye.<laugh>

Speaker 2 28:25

Tittles. It does like very literally.

Speaker 3 28:28

And then when, when you're around some, some British person who has a stick up their it's tittles

Speaker 5 28:35

<laugh>

Speaker 3 28:40

He got yous and was down at the pub and then she pulled the turtles out.<laugh> I didn't know what to do.

Speaker 2 28:50

Um, I wouldn't either.

Speaker 3 28:52

Cause I wanted her to SHA and so she popped, popped a couple in my mouth<laugh> and then I was focused on like I got all my classwork on<laugh> on estrogen. Yeah. No that's true. I, I lost the plot for sure. And went straight back to ADHD meds. In theory.

Speaker 2 29:11

I like the ultimate though, that that person was just so inspired by

Speaker 3 29:16

<laugh>

Speaker 2 29:17

They're like

Speaker 3 29:18

get anything done. Now I

Speaker 2 29:20

Saw God in this sticky

Speaker 3 29:22

Pub, I turned this, this person from like SCO to Welsh in two seconds flat. Woo.

Speaker 2 29:30

Uh, I feel like SCO and tittles are like two frog friends from a children's book. Yeah,

Speaker 3 29:35

Yeah. Yeah. So<laugh> okay. So zoom, zoom pills. If that's, uh, if that's too on the nose, I have another, another option for

Speaker 2 29:45

You. Yeah. Throw it at me

Speaker 3 29:47

Room room pills.<laugh> actually though that might, that might not work because you can't um, sometimes if you take too many stimulants,

Speaker 2 29:57

You can't room room.

Speaker 3 29:59

Yeah. You can't operate a vehicle.

Speaker 2 30:00

Yeah. Be careful. Yeah. That might be a little bit too, like promising. Uh,

Speaker 3 30:04

Yeah. So like calling a drug, something that sounds too close to champion, which is gonna give people really unrealistic dreams about going to the Olympics. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 30:13

<affirmative> that's why Rogan is called Rogan. Uh, in other countries it's just called regain and people are like, you can't just say you, you will regain hair. You might.

Speaker 3 30:23

It is interesting how we've regulated some things so heavily in this country. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and other things,

Speaker 2 30:30

Other things we sure haven't we

Speaker 3 30:32

Sure haven't so what are your ideals?

Speaker 2 30:35

I'm thinking if we have zoom, zoom, we can, we can riff off. We can hone. We can streamline that because you got the Zs in there, but like QS good. One, three times more common in med names.

Speaker 3 30:51

Uh, X is up there too. Really?

Speaker 2 30:53

Yeah. X is 16 times is, is common in medication names.

Speaker 3 30:57

I mean, that's not too hard to do, to be fair. Yeah. To like, to be fair to the rest of the words in like phonetic, they use phonetic letters. Like mm-hmm<affirmative> there's not a lot of X's out there.

Speaker 2 31:08

<laugh> so it could be like zoo, all

Speaker 3 31:11

GA zoo, all

Speaker 2 31:12

<laugh>. Yeah. You have like the surprise at your brain working. You have like the zoom, but not quite, but like a little more fun. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and then you have the all like you're gonna get all your done. Mm-hmm<affirmative> zoos all.

Speaker 3 31:25

Uh I'm I'm still gonna go with GAD Z soul. And we're gonna say GAD Zuke soul instead of GAD. Zuke all because you might get all your done.

Speaker 2 31:34

Oh good, Z soul

Speaker 3 31:37

Get Z soul Uhhuh Uhhuh. It sounds like a German dessert.<laugh> I've been watching a lot of G B B O. So forgive me.<laugh> doesn't it though.

Speaker 2 31:48

No, it does. It really

Speaker 3 31:49

Does. Like in a, I kind of wanna try

Speaker 2 31:52

It. Like my grandma's Blackberry get ZK.

Speaker 3 31:55

I thought you were about to say like my ma on my MAs side, she makes a very delicious black forest. Get ZK, get ZK.

Speaker 2 32:08

You asked my Maza from the house of hold bun. Yeah.

Speaker 3 32:11

<laugh> when he's saw my portrait, he was like, yeah,

Speaker 2 32:16

That would be a good double dopamine someday.

Speaker 3 32:18

Yes.

Speaker 2 32:19

We're both going through a six, the musical phase right now, just for a little context. Uh, shout out to our friend Cammy who told us about it a long time ago. And we were like me and then we saw it live and we were like, oh, I get it now.

Speaker 3 32:33

Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. Saw it live. And I was just, oh<laugh>. Oh, okay. I see.

Speaker 2 32:39

Very fun. Very fun musical.

Speaker 3 32:40

So fun. Um, yeah. Anyways.

Speaker 2 32:43

Yeah. So we got, okay. We got G zil.

Speaker 3 32:46

G

Speaker 2 32:46

Zil. Yeah. That's one. What about like what we call, uh, non stimulant medication. That's like a, more of a calm focus. I think mm-hmm<affirmative> sort of mood we wanna put forward rather than the, like the zoom and the quickness and

Speaker 3 33:01

Like the, yeah, no, you want it to be a

Speaker 2 33:03

Activation? Yeah.

Speaker 3 33:05

You want it to be

Speaker 2 33:06

Like a calm, clear pool of focus.

Speaker 3 33:09

Okay. I'm stuck on pool and we need to stop doing words with two OS.

Speaker 2 33:15

Yeah. Pond wake, uh, stream could go like take a fun little root word and call it like Avon. Yeah. Like river mm-hmm<affirmative> about the makeup. Nevermind.

Speaker 3 33:28

I mean Avon, like, yeah, it is just way too close to that brand name. Uh, so what about, okay, so calm mm-hmm

Speaker 2 33:35

<affirmative>

Speaker 3 33:36

Camo meal. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 33:37

<affirmative>

Speaker 3 33:38

Sleepy type mm-hmm<affirmative> so like Camma or

Speaker 2 33:42

Like Camon

Speaker 3 33:44

Camon

Speaker 2 33:45

We have to get some more funky letters in there though. Yeah. So maybe it'd be more like cam

Speaker 3 33:51

Cam. Well then you have the, a Avon at the end there too

Speaker 2 33:55

Kava with a Q at the end

Speaker 3 33:57

Kava.

Speaker 2 33:57

But we want that many A's though. Feel like we need to break it up a bit. Hmm. Who did like Camma VIX with a Y

Speaker 3 34:04

Camma VIX,

Speaker 2 34:05

But why Q would not make that though?<laugh> oh, this is hard drug namers have hard jobs.

Speaker 3 34:12

So I would still do, I would do C H a M mm-hmm<affirmative>. So cam like Cama meal mm-hmm<affirmative> and Camma be like C a H M O. So like keep the camo mm-hmm<affirmative> and then what about like calyx

Speaker 2 34:25

Like L Y X?

Speaker 3 34:26

Yeah. Camex

Speaker 2 34:28

Calyx

Speaker 3 34:29

Calyx and then because Camex is kind of close to Camelot mm-hmm<affirmative> but that's a fictional place. Mm-hmm<affirmative> you already have some fun little branding opportunities. Yeah.

Speaker 2 34:37

It's magic. You, you go there to like fight your dragons and win.

Speaker 3 34:43

Yeah. Find, find Sola with your, your round table of neuron nights.

Speaker 2 34:50

Yeah.

Speaker 3 34:51

Took me a second. I had it in like

Speaker 2 34:53

All the words. No, that was good. I was like, that was good. Like the, the camaraderie

Speaker 3 34:58

Neurons here. Let me, let me see if I can do a delivery for, okay. So fun fact about me. I've actually done, made up drug names one time before, and it was for my psych class, my freshman year of college Uhhuh. And this was before I had transferred to a different school. So this was at Kasu college and I was in a group with some of my very dear friends. It was like me and some friends named Ridge and grace, and then our other friend, Tyler mm-hmm<affirmative> we all were in the class together. And so we did our group project together mm-hmm<affirmative> and the group project was to come up with a medication and create a commercial for it. Oh, that was specifically for some sort of neurological, uh, issue. Uh, and the one that we got assigned was a tiny hippocampus. Uh, so the lack of empathy, we had the drug that was supposed to stop kids from becoming serial killers

Speaker 2 35:51

<laugh> oh,

Speaker 3 35:53

So it was very dark and very funny. And everyone was horrified, but also laughing, which I feel like is kind of just mm-hmm.<affirmative> good to know. My brand's always been that way.

Speaker 2 36:02

Consistent

Speaker 3 36:04

Aspect. Yeah. Anyways, that's

Speaker 2 36:05

Important. That's important in

Speaker 3 36:06

Branding. So, so I just want y'all to know that I am coming at this from like a certain amount of experience. Mm-hmm<affirmative> not much, but a certain amount. So with that said, you know, mm-hmm<affirmative> do you find yourself daydreaming? Do you find yourself getting lost in your thoughts, wandering into the woods of your mind? Well, fair art, because here at king Arthur pharmaceuticals, we have found the promise land. If you take camely you mind will find paradise. Your mind will find on a Mulan. I don't know. I'm running out. You're looking at me like you have things you might wanna say.

Speaker 2 36:47

No, I was, I was literally trying to remember the tune of green sleeves to just whistle in the background.

Speaker 3 36:52

Oh, Don dun that's the tutors that's like very, very far. What? Sorry. You get your bachelor's in international studies, specifically. European history. Okay. That does not leave.

Speaker 2 37:09

I know. I know. This is what I have you. And it worked out anyways, cuz I couldn't remember the tune. So mm-hmm<affirmative>

Speaker 3 37:14

Yeah,

Speaker 2 37:15

That was brilliant. We have our, our cash cow. This is gonna be

Speaker 3 37:20

Cabinets,

Speaker 2 37:21

Uhhuh, Uhhuh. All right. I dig it. I was thinking too, like I had made a note that dopamine is the reward chemical and I was thinking something that's like real in the beginning. Cause you have like reward or like rewire your brain or

Speaker 3 37:36

Ooh. And it's just shrimps. Yeah.

Speaker 2 37:38

Yeah. So we've got like re I feel like re

Speaker 3 37:44

Rex said an X. So change the w out for an X maybe or no re

Speaker 2 37:50

Hmm. It could be like re w

Speaker 3 37:52

Re WSO re

Speaker 2 37:54

Re ER,

Speaker 3 37:55

I feel like re WSU

Speaker 2 37:57

Re Wix sum

Speaker 3 37:58

With like, um, mm-hmm<affirmative> but it sounds like mushroom REW.

Speaker 2 38:03

So like with an UMLA over the U

Speaker 3 38:05

That's fun.<laugh> that's

Speaker 2 38:07

Fun. I don't think it's FDA approved, but it is

Speaker 3 38:10

Fun. Oh, I didn't know. That's what we were coming here for. I mean, I'm sorry. I'll I'll get my fancy pencil on. Get ready to go to the pharmacy.

Speaker 2 38:18

That is, I mean, that is that

Speaker 3 38:19

off.<laugh> I'm sorry. I've been practicing a D and D accent all week and by practicing a D and D accent. I mean, testing out every different type of British accent I can possibly do.

Speaker 2 38:31

Mm-hmm<affirmative> can confirm.

Speaker 3 38:32

And Jordan is a Saint and has been doing them with me to keep me in character, which is very nice. And I thought it would be funny to do it for the Camex bit. And now it's just there. It's just there. I'm sorry. So I'm doing my best. Trying to bring it back to the Midwest.

Speaker 2 38:48

Yeah. That rhyme go, go back to the bar. Talk, go back to the Minnesota.

Speaker 3 38:53

Bastar those basterd stole my bagels.

Speaker 2 38:58

My,

Speaker 3 38:59

Those basters stole my bagels. Like they were in my bag and they took my bagels that were in my bag. I in Ireland.

Speaker 2 39:10

Yeah. Like that you flew, flew, flew far off bud.

Speaker 3 39:15

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Mm-hmm<affirmative> I had Germany we're back

Speaker 2 39:19

And back in the house, in the

Speaker 3 39:22

Love hole.

Speaker 2 39:28

Great. So we had Zuel

Speaker 3 39:33

and

Speaker 2 39:35

Camex camely

Speaker 3 39:37

And

Speaker 2 39:38

REIC wo REIC<laugh> I here's the thing with the

Speaker 3 39:41

W wo for a dream

Speaker 2 39:44

With the w it sounds like it has to do with womb and then we're getting into Goup territory Uhhuh. So we might wanna back that one on that's

Speaker 3 39:51

Why I was kind of like, I feel like instead of a, w do like an X there, like Rex, like

Speaker 2 39:57

Rex,

Speaker 3 39:59

Rex

Speaker 2 40:01

Summa,

Speaker 3 40:02

Rex Suma,

Speaker 2 40:02

Rex Suma

Speaker 3 40:03

Set. Sounds like set Suma.

Speaker 2 40:05

Yeah. But then that's got you kinda like that fresh sort of Esty

Speaker 3 40:09

Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> like a reward

Speaker 2 40:11

Rex Suma.

Speaker 3 40:11

Yes. Fresh and pasty reward. Yes. A sweet and sexy little treat.

Speaker 2 40:16

Rex

Speaker 3 40:16

Summa, Rex Summa. Amazing. All right, job done.

Speaker 2 40:19

Great.

Speaker 3 40:21

Uh,

Speaker 2 40:21

Let's uh, let's call Pfizer. Let's take it to the bank.

Speaker 3 40:23

Yeah. Amazing. I'm sure this is exactly what they want and how it works.

Speaker 2 40:28

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Nice work team. We great. Do we, should we do some dopamine trampolines now?

Speaker 3 40:34

I guess<laugh>, I guess

Speaker 2 40:37

It's a very, um, focused and educational, uh, bit there. We just did.

Speaker 3 40:42

Yeah. That was like jampacked with really, really meaty information. Mm-hmm<affirmative>, you know, unbelievably detailed, I would say mm-hmm<affirmative> and, uh, yeah.

Speaker 2 40:52

Yep. Great. So what's your, uh, woo. What's your WWE trampoline this week look. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. For those of you who are just tuning in for the first time, first of all, God bless you. The second of all our dopamine trampoline is the segment that we do every episode where Lex and I both share something that, uh, has brought us dopamine recently or in the past, like a past hyper fixation, or just like a little delight mm-hmm<affirmative>, uh, just to, you know, round out the cast. And when we have guests on, they share their dopamine trampolines too. And those are always fun. Mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, but it's just us too this week. So L what do you got for us?

Speaker 3 41:32

Yeah. So, okay. Uh, this week I would like to talk about a film that is coming out on video on the seventh. So it'll be out on video, like the day after it'll be on video tomorrow from when the set drops. Nice. Like, I think on like Amazon, maybe, ah, and like other, like, get your Blueray. Yeah. Like I think you can, yeah. I'm not positive. I was just, okay. Anyway, don't take my word for that. Cause now I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's the seventh. No, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know, but I could be wrong

Speaker 2 42:04

Following the theme of this podcast. I don't know.

Speaker 3 42:08

I don't know anything. Uh, but what I do know is that I watched a movie recently with Jordan and it was so good. Mm-hmm<affirmative> excuse me. So absurd, freakishly heartwarming. I would say that's a great way of describing it. Yeah. Like anyway, everything everywhere, all at once. So good. I know everyone's heard of it because it's that good? You know, mm-hmm,<affirmative>, it's one of those things where you're like, I don't know, everyone's really hyping it up. It's because it's amazing. And don't worry because it is a very new movie. I'm not gonna talk about the plot at all. Really. I'm not gonna spoil anything. I just like this movie is I, I wanna explain a little bit why about why it's giving me so much dopamine mm-hmm<affirmative> and why it has this past week. So, first of all, let's start with, uh, just some basic sort of, if, if you've been, you know, if for some reason you don't know what, what I'm talking about right now, uh, like what we're talking about, everything everywhere all at once is a, uh, movie that came out just this year, 20, 22, it's an American absurdist comedy drama, film written directed. And co-produced by Dan qu and Daniel, Shinar collectively known as Daniels of the film. I know. Right. Love, love that it stars, uh, Michelle, Y as a Chinese American woman being audited by the IRS. Um, and essentially this is, this is the, this is information that's in like the trailer. This is like information that's in like thes material. I'm not the posters. It's yeah, I'm spoiling it, but like, it is kind of just the whole thing. Right. Uhhuh. Um, so just, yeah, if you're really that pressed fast forward, like a minute and you'll be fine, but, uh, it's about a Chinese American woman being audited by the IRS who discovers that she must connect with parallel universe versions of herself to prevent a powerful being, uh, from causing the destruction of the multiverse. Uh, yeah. So also stars, Stephanie shoe, uh, key Kwan, uh, Jenny slay, Terry sh Jr. Oh, Jamie Lee Curtis, like, so like in supporting roles and stuff. Um, so the film has been described as a swirl of genre, anarchy and features, elements of black comedy science fiction, fantasy martial arts, film, and animation. And if you're thinking to yourself, that sounds like a lot to fit into a movie. It is. And it's amazing Uhhuh<affirmative>, um, it is beautiful. Incredible. Uh, I'm really sorry that I'm quoting the New York times on our podcast, but you

Speaker 2 44:46

Get one, you get one for the show mm-hmm<affirmative>

Speaker 3 44:48

Mm-hmm<affirmative> oh, okay. The New York times is the one who called it the swirl of genre anarchy, but they also came up with it's messy and glorious. And I was like, yeah, that is it. Is, it is, it has a 95% on rotten tomatoes. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like the, I like the cinematography, the acting, the, the plot, everything about this movie is chaotic perfection and do not, oh, the best part to me. Mm-hmm<affirmative> the score. Mm-hmm<affirmative> sun luck, uh, is the band mm-hmm<affirmative> the group mm-hmm<affirmative> of brilliant people who scored the movie mm-hmm<affirmative> and we get to the end of the movie credits start rolling. And who voice pops up Mitski.

Speaker 2 45:33

They came straight for your kneecaps. My friend,

Speaker 3 45:35

They sure did that

Speaker 2 45:37

Movie called us both out because this isn't a spoiler because it's in the posters, but goo eyes are significant to the film. Um, as you can tell by like all of the promotional material. Um, and I, I was, I was very touched by that, like even before I saw the movie, um, because like, that's something that my parents would do when I was in college is like stick goo eyes onto my stuff. Uh, when I wasn't looking when they'd come to visit. So I was like, ow, like this film was good, but like, I got my kicked and then Mitski showed up and I was like, oh good. We both got our kicked asses kicked.

Speaker 3 46:10

Yeah. And like, there are other things that hurt me in that movie, for sure. Yeah. Like it, it, I laughed, yelled, cried. Mm-hmm<affirmative> like it, it was beautiful. Amazing. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> uh, so that's just been giving me a lot of dopamine and I've been listening to the soundtrack, uh, and like, I have likes on luck for a long time. And so

Speaker 2 46:30

They're a great band.

Speaker 3 46:31

Like they're they, if someone told me, like, read the plot to me and was like, so who do you think would, should do the score? I think I would choose sun luck because their music is already so freaking ethereal and weird mm-hmm,<affirmative> surprising and delightful. Like it's, mm-hmm,<affirmative>, it's messy and glorious, like. Yeah.

Speaker 2 46:51

And I think if it's not too much of a spoiler, what you told me about this movie might be very helpful to people who haven't seen it yet. Uh, cuz I kind of had the same thought going into it of like I've heard this film is really good, but like I've kept hearing that this film was really good. Is it gonna live up to it? And then what you told me was,

Speaker 3 47:09

Well it's in the trailer. Yeah. If you just watched the trailer, but what I said was the shell, yo it's at like at one point she has hot dogs for fingers. We're not gonna be disappointed. That's what I said verbatim. That's what I said to Jordan. I was like, we're not gonna be disappointed to get that thought outta your head, get those words outta your mouth. It is gonna be amazing. This is gonna be a bliss filled experience. And it was, and it was, and it was so that's my dopamine trampoline.

Speaker 2 47:34

Amazing. Yeah. Thank you so much. Yeah. I'm bouncing so high on that one.

Speaker 3 47:39

Mm-hmm<affirmative> this is a life, the song mm-hmm<affirmative> that Mitski is featured in mm-hmm<affirmative> a beautiful B there's an extended version, which is the one that's in the credits and there's a lot more of the like orchestral swells and like high highs and low lows than like sun looks is so good at creating like a wall of sound mm-hmm<affirmative> and then like nothing and then just keeping oh, and okay. That's a different dopamine trampoline for a different day, but I would recommend it 10 outta 10 again, he had 95% of rotten tomatoes too. So mm-hmm<affirmative> it's not just like, oh, everyone likes it. Cuz it's a fun watch. Like, no it's incredible. Like, oh yeah. Michelle Yow apparently thanked Jackie Chan for turning the roll down because to her, she said it was the role of a lifetime. And so if, if an actor like that, if an Alister like that is like, this was the role of the lifetime. Go, go watch it. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 48:32

<affirmative> isn't it like eight, 20 four's highest grossing film now

Speaker 3 48:36

I think so. Yeah. We had 8 24. We all know they own my entire.<laugh> like, you know, anyways, so that's my Domine trampoline. What's yours.

Speaker 2 48:44

Nice. Uh, so in keeping with this kind of fun experimental life affirming, bizarre art sort of zone, yes. That we've created my dopamine trampoline is the Neo futurists. If you have not heard of them, that's fair. But they're a theater troop that originated here in Chicago and still has an ensemble here. Uh, they also have an ensemble in San Francisco, which is where I first saw them. And in New York, their signature show, uh, used to be called too much light. Makes the baby go blind is now called the infinite wrench and has been, and still is an ever-changing attempt to perform 30 plays in 60 minutes. And if that sounds absolutely bonkers to you, it is. Yeah, it absolutely is. You've been, I've dragged you to the show more than

Speaker 3 49:36

Once. Okay. You, you say dragged, like I'm a willing participant. I have asked to go, like I'm not a, I didn't get my degree in theater, but I, I still recognize fun to watch when I see it, you know?

Speaker 2 49:48

Well, I'm, I'm, I'm glad. Yeah. I'm we have a lot of fun when we go and I've been a big fan of the Neo futurists since way before I moved to Chicago, heard about them when I was just getting out of high school. I, as you all know, by now been very involved in theater when I was in high school and that was great, but we did like the music man and Joseph in the amazing technical dream coat. And I played the main character's mom in the music man. And I played the main character's mom and Joseph in the amazing technical dream coat. And we did the drowsy chap. I was not the drowsy chaperone. They made up a background chaperone character for me<laugh> so it was very cool to see these people do a bunch of theater that they were writing. All of those 30 plays are written by the ensemble about actual things. That's all non elusory. So they're never playing characters. If you see alcohol on stage it's alcohol, it's not watered down Coke. The plays are all very full of life and they are very personal and they are much more expansive than a lot of the things that make it to large commercial theaters. And so it was extremely cool to get, to see an environment where people got to be themselves and not the main character's moms

Speaker 3 51:09

<laugh>.

Speaker 2 51:09

Yeah. And it's, it's just a delight. Every time we get to see the show, it's a delight and I've been getting an extra amount of dopamine recently because they do offer classes. Uh, the Neo futurist here in Chicago just started, uh, doing in person classes again and are hosting a, a very vaccinated and very masked, uh, introduction to the two minute play. We've had two classes so far they've involved a lot of yelling and I'm spilled coffee all over myself and it's been an absolute delight. So yeah. That's, that's been my dopamine trampoline.

Speaker 3 51:45

Yeah. Okay. So maybe explain further when Jordan says that it's the art of doing 30 plays in 60 minutes or whatever. Yes. Like they literally just have like 32 minute plays. Yes. One after the other. And they're not the same. Like sometimes they bring things back, right. They're like they have certain ones that cycle through, but it's not always the same people. It's not always the same stories. So like, even though it's still called infinite wrench, it's not the same show. So you're seeing a different show every single time.

Speaker 2 52:16

That's a great point. Thank

Speaker 3 52:18

You.<laugh> so yeah, like, and it's wild. It's bananas. It's the, the range is everywhere from like very deep heartfelt, like open and vulnerable monologues to like, oh, what was the first, what was of the

Speaker 2 52:32

First experiences you had? Oh, the first shows that I saw in San Francisco was like a movement piece. One might say, well, there was just like house music playing in the background and somebody took out their entire top put like a, a dog cone on their head and was beating their with hot dogs. Yeah. And that's art baby.

Speaker 3 52:51

Yeah. And then someone at a 24 saw that and later wrote everything everywhere all at once.<laugh>

Speaker 2 52:57

I would like to think that I really would. I think it's also important to note that, uh, like L said the shows change every week, they take a certain amount of those 30 plays out and replace them with new plays. So yeah. Eventually they cycle through it. They never do them in the same order either. They have all of the numbers corresponding to the plays, hanging up above the stage at the start, when one play ends, you just start hollering and they pick a number that they hear and they do that one next mm-hmm<affirmative>. So

Speaker 3 53:24

Cuz cuz you're handed a list mm-hmm<affirmative> with just all 30 numbers and the corresponding title and that's how you know and decide what number you wanna see next.

Speaker 2 53:36

Yeah. Yeah. The wrench, the titular wrench of the infinite wrench is a new addition, uh, after they changed the name and instead of a number you can just yell wrench. If you want to, most of the time they've changed the way that they do some, but you can just yell wrench. And it's something that up the show like mm-hmm<affirmative> sometimes it's been, somebody has to carry around a jug of water during the rest of the whole show. Sometimes it's been like they have to change clothes a certain number of times, it's all kinds of weird things that are just kind of meant to keep it exciting. Mm-hmm<affirmative> and keep the actors on their toes and,

Speaker 3 54:15

And it's funny most of the time. Yeah. Like it's just funny. Yeah. It like Jordan's had, like, it is just, it's a delight. It,

Speaker 2 54:23

It really truly is.

Speaker 3 54:24

Mm-hmm<affirmative> they did virtual shows for a while too. Yeah. Like when things were all shut down, which was like very cool. Yeah. That they were like, well it. Yeah. We're gonna continue trying to experiment. And we're just gonna use a new medium for it. Mm-hmm<affirmative> mm-hmm<affirmative> and that was also very delightful. We got to participate in one at one point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 54:41

Yeah.

Speaker 3 54:41

Kate Bush was involved, not the actual singer, but her music,

Speaker 2 54:45

Her music, you probably know the song.

Speaker 3 54:47

Of course you do. Everyone has seen the latest season of stranger things at this point. Probably. Right. I

Speaker 2 54:52

Haven't.

Speaker 3 54:53

No, I know, but it's just

Speaker 2 54:55

Yeah, but I've been made aware mm-hmm

Speaker 3 54:57

<affirmative> if you haven't just don't Google anything don't yeah. Not once. Have we said what the name of the song is? So anyways.

Speaker 2 55:05

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I got love the new futurist

Speaker 3 55:08

It's same. Love that. And I love hearing all about the class that you're taking. It's very fun.

Speaker 2 55:14

Always a delight, but yeah, that's what I got. Should we sign this one out?

Speaker 3 55:18

No, let's stay here and just sit

Speaker 2 55:19

In our sweat. Mm-hmm<affirmative> great.

Speaker 4 55:25

Ooh, one,

Speaker 3 55:30

This would be so much funnier if you weren't the one who had the first line and the power to end all of this.

Speaker 2 55:35

This has been oil park. More from more heart of production company.

Speaker 3 55:40

You can find some Spotify, apple podcast pretty much anywhere where you can get podcasts

Speaker 2 55:45

Special. Thanks to Keisha per for our cover out design. You can find her at pedal hop. That's P E T a L H oh P Instagram, Twitter at Z. Look her up.

Speaker 3 55:54

Thank you as well to Tom Rosenthal for our intro and outro song, there is a dark place off of the album. Keep a private room behind the shop. Go listen to it. It's great.

Speaker 2 56:02

You can follow us on the so meets@orlearnparkcoreontwitteratwearewpconinstagramandatwearewpc.com. Yeah.

Speaker 3 56:12

You can find all those links and some other goodies, uh, in our episode description,

Speaker 2 56:17

Uh, you can also find the cool deal we have with bus sprout. Look that one up. Uh, yeah, I'm gonna keep that one short. You can read about it later. Mm-hmm

Speaker 3 56:25

<affirmative> yeah. And if you want to do something real, fresh and sexy, you could share the show with a friend. You could also give us money<laugh> you could, you could we have a COFI it's on our, uh,

Speaker 2 56:37

Blank tree on our Instagram and on our Twitter. Yeah. Is on our website somewhere. Mm-hmm<affirmative> many, many ways, many paths to enlightening yourself by rid yourself of your money and giving it to us. Mm-hmm<affirmative> yeah. Uh I'm Jordan

Speaker 3 56:52

And

Speaker 2 56:53

I'm L and this has been our alert park. We'll see you in two weeks.

Speaker 3 56:57

Yeah. So, um, like I was saying someone Hawaii back home.