Or, Learn Parkour: An ADHD Podcast
Or, Learn Parkour: An ADHD Podcast
OLP 011: HolidADHD Parkourstravaganza!
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Ho-ho-hold on to your earbuds, team! In episode eleven of Or, Learn Parkour... join Lex and Jordan for our first-ever Christmas special! In the HolidADHDParkourstravaganza, we talk holiday traditions, answer some listener questions, share a few holidADHD fails, and head off to bed, with visions of sugarplums dancing in our heads.
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CW/TW: Mental health, ADHD, mild language, loud noises/bleeped swears, mild sexual content, implied guillotine violence, dog sex, brief mention of nuclear disaster, holidays, conflict resolution, reference of family stress, Christmas, Santa, not believing in Santa
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Speaker 2Hi, I'm Jordan. Oh, I am Santa . Is it really you? Yes . Give them the old , the cookies and milk in your house, but make it oat milk because I am allergic to dairy. That's fantastic. That's all I had. Anyways. Welcome to you . We're on the naughty list for making such a weird, weird word joke that I'm not sure if it was a poem or a play on words, or you just said ODI humor . You're supposed to have aren't you supposed to have a nominated for best podcast comedy 2020? I don't know a podcast they were listening to. Well , it looks like another stocking full of coal for you. Great. I'm Lex. Oh, thanks for joining us. Not Santa Santa. Isn't real. We can't say that on the podcast. I'm going to have to bleep that out. Uh , birds aren't real is not real birds. Aren't real paints . Aren't real pants are also not real. Like one of these things is not like the other in this case, Cassandra is very real. Pants are an illusion. Just like death name. That show. Is that from a show or are we building a show off of that? No, it's it's from a TV show as I live and breathe Pensar and illusion just like death. I think that's the quote or, and so his death, is it cutthroat kitchen? I mean, okay. You know, of all the shows that you could have guessed, that does seem the most, like that seems the most likely from the quote without any context. I , I think that was a very educated guests and I appreciate that, but no, it is in fact , uh , first of two parts of the mid season finale of book, three of avatar, the last Airbender flyer , it's the episode where they are invading the fire nation during a solar eclipse, the darkest day in fire nation history and the weird swamp dude who doesn't wear pants. And then someone makes a comment about how he doesn't wear pants. And he's like penciler and illusion. Oh, his death. I , that , that tracks, that makes a lot of sense. I was wondering if this was like an emperor's new clothes kind of thing, where like, you know, the pants are an illusion and then do you just got to the out or? Okay. That makes sense though, right on , um, this is our learn park
Speaker 3Core . Say a podcast,
Speaker 2But ADHD emphasis on the D
Speaker 3I heard it when you said it and I didn't want to go there, but here we are.
Speaker 2Oh , I guess that's what you're getting extreme horny . I don't like this bit. Ady come pick me up. I'm going to go home. Uh, I did warn you that I would have some energy for you. You did,
Speaker 3But I was still not prepared.
Speaker 2Yeah. Currently in the students today, you get to do social Meeds . I'm going to say students come up with their own style of abbreviation. Come on, come up with your own style of abbreviation, common duty , common English, and otherwise language mechanic where you just shorten words. And it's the same. Everyone shortens words. You don't have a monopoly on that. Who are you? Mark Zuckerberg. No, you don't have a monopoly on anything. Jordan, Jordan, listen, I'm just saying there's a lot of rain .
Speaker 3She could have put an asset at the end, like Meads . You could have put like a Y at the end and made like a cute little nickname.
Speaker 2I did put an S at the end. I said studes . And if you play the record back, no, I know you said judge and jury. You just said, I didn't use this judge and jury, not even making any sense. I demand order in the court. Can you maybe not hit the table,
Speaker 3But Mike is plea . That's what I would like for Christmas. Okay. Thank you .
Speaker 2May I also just point out though, you do that all the time. When we're recording,
Speaker 3I will also try and stop doing it . If that makes you feel better .
Speaker 2Yeah . Uh, so anyways, in the studio here, I'm just wrapped up in a fuzzy blanket you share are . And for the first time in oral learn per core history, I am not the one behind the computer.
Speaker 3This is true. This is true. I am a to use a vaguely festive metaphor taking the reigns of this year , sleigh and , uh, the mic hooked up to my computer. I don't know.
Speaker 2It's notable. It's not super notable, but it does make sense in the context of me hitting the table. This is true . You being very taken aback.
Speaker 3It does. But I'm glad that you get to sit back and relax and have your, your Sodi and your fluffy cozy blanket because it's cozy season. Yes, here we are. In the holidays. We are recording on the evening of the 10th. So I believe that Hanukkah is just starting happy Hanukkah for folks who celebrate. We are happy. Hanukkah sprinting at an alarming pace towards many other winter holidays. We got Christmas. We got Festivus. We got Kwanzaa . We got new year's we got Yule . We got all of reasons to eat as I see it. So we're here today too .
Speaker 2You hope hopefully you are eating outside of holidays. Oh yeah, no, I, yes, I am. I just want to add that blanket statement there, please.
Speaker 3That's a very fair caveat. I am eating normal food, but now I get to eat holiday food, like peppermint things, big fan of peppermint season. Like I won't lie first peppermint mocha of the season way bigger deal to me than my first pumpkin spice latte of the season. Like, eh, that's fine. But like first morning that is like, crisp enough. You go, you get that red cup or whatever color they are the season, but you get your Starbucks cup. You get that little, you know, cold spicy. You get that creamy chocolate. You get the whip on top. It's it's a near and dear holiday experience to my heart.
Speaker 2Meanwhile, I roll up to Starbucks and I'm like, Hey, can I get a venti peach, green tea lemonade in December. Thank you. Yes. Sweetened
Speaker 3Your consistency. We need that in the world today. I can't have coffee, so that's okay.
Speaker 2Yes. Well, hopefully you don't just, wow. Okay. Let's say that I was going to drink coffee. Let's take the one month that I did drink coffee, drink that coffee as well as the coffee. You already drink , you would be dead. How much coffee did you drink that month? Uh, each day I was averaging about like, I was having lattes and cold brews put the cold brews. I did not realize where the concentrated. Oh God . Yeah, no. So like, yeah, like two cold brews and like a latte. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 3Just the cold brew by myself. Once I thought I was going to be like a little crafty Beaver and make my own soaked it overnight, got those coffee grounds in there made my own cold brew was like, Oh, this makes sense. You filter out the grounds and why would I keep reading the directions? Then you have coffee. Did not realize you were supposed to dilute it. And I just drank it straight on my way to work. And I got to the Daymond blue line station and I was like, this seems like a normal morning. Why am I having an anxiety attack?
Speaker 2It was the cold brew. Yeah, no. So I , I actually am going to say, not more for you just drink the amount of caffeine that you are comfortable with and that your body feels good about. Okay.
Speaker 3Thank you for that little kernel of wisdom.
Speaker 2I got to bring something useful to the table
Speaker 3Besides horny Santa . That's what I'm saying. That's not useful. No, it isn't.
Speaker 2You know, I got to bring something. Okay. So , um,
Speaker 3We are in the studio today with Jordan and lax and horny Santa and
Speaker 2[inaudible] don't let him stay in the space.
Speaker 3No. Yeah. Or any Santa's you can, you can go. I'm sure you have a lot to do tonight.
Speaker 2Hoes .
Speaker 3Ooh. Okay. Oh, y'all I am so sleepy. Oh, and yet you bring such energy to this blanket Fort [inaudible] . I respect your, whatever it is. You've got going on there. I don't know. That's
Speaker 2Okay. I don't even know what I've got going on over
Speaker 3Here.
Speaker 2Jordan has to live with me. So like,
Speaker 3Well, I feel like it balances out because you also have to live with me. So I guess I, well
Speaker 2Will say if I'm sleepy, I usually just go sleep. That's fair. So, and I think you also do that, so we don't normally overlap too much
Speaker 3In sleepiness. No , cause I think my main sleepiness allotment is mornings [inaudible] and we are not around each other in the morning. So either I am out of the house way before you're awake or I am asleep
Speaker 2When I leave. Yes .
Speaker 3So yeah . I don't ever have to put up with tired Jordan cause she's she's the worst. Oh yeah. I guess .
Speaker 2I wouldn't know, because I haven't spent much time around morning , Jordan Morton, Morton.
Speaker 3We are joined in the studio today by Jordan lacks the Starbucks and
Speaker 2Okay. I'll say it, but not horny. Santa's not leave out. He's not welcome back in this blanket. Got some stuff to work on. I think so, Jordan, you told me a little bit about this episode and I was quite excited. Cause it sounds like we heard from some of our friends at home,
Speaker 3We sure did, but like what are we, what are we doing here? It's the end of 2020? It is. It's the holidays, but it's different. It is. It is. But it is still the holidays. We still have a lot of things to celebrate. And today we're gonna have a little festive Christmas episode and we're going to talk about what it's like to get through the holidays with ADHD. We're going to talk about our holidays. We're gonna, like you mentioned, answer some listener questions and share a very good holiday DHD story. Um, that I'm excited.
Speaker 2I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Was that holiday holiday DHD ? It sure was holiday ADHD . Is that a thing or did you just, it's a thing now.
Speaker 3I hate you so much. And if the are true, We may even have an ADH dad joke before we wrap up this episode. So , uh, I know how much you love those. So I , I came up with one special just for you.
Speaker 2Wow. Who's from the Midwest now, Sheila . Okay. Um, so what's, let's take me through it. What are we doing? Uh, one good jingle jingle jangle mother. So first we're going to do well . So the reindeer on the roof, did you ever
Speaker 3Carrots when you were a kid, like, was that a thing you would leave the carrots for the reindeer, with the cookies for Santa?
Speaker 2No, I knew Santa wasn't real when I was probably three or four. Oh
Speaker 3Yeah. Did you stop leaving? I guess you were the youngest. So by a lot, did that just stop any sort of Santa's activity in your house?
Speaker 2I think so. I have a memory of spying after my bedtime and seeing my parents putting the presents under the tree. I don't know if I fabricated that or if it was real either way lost my faith in Santa very early on in my family was pretty like, Oh , that's from Santa wink. So we didn't really leave the cookies and milk out because gross, we had pets. That's fair. And even if it's like up on the mantle, the cat could get up on the mantle and like , you know , leaving a glass of milk out that Milo would just knock off the mantle. And that's
Speaker 3Your cats ? Christmas present actually is getting to make a huge mess.
Speaker 2He just did that all the time. I think cats . Yeah. Milo was so cool. Okay. So ,
Speaker 3Um, no, I mean, I think it's partially because I have a younger brother, so the Santa thing kind of kept going longer than I was like, Oh yes, there is a man who breaks into our home in the middle of the night, once a year. But I feel like even after we're both kind of like, yeah, okay. Santa's whatever. We'd just left cookies out
Speaker 2Because then my parents, they got up to leave our presence in the middle of the night. Amazing.
Speaker 3Amazing. And I love that tradition, mom and dad. You earned those even though you bought them or made them most of the time so that you extra earned them. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I do remember though, when I was wee Lassie and I danced the dance studio would send us home for winter break with bags, full of like oats
Speaker 2And glitter. Well, that
Speaker 3Was supposed to be like magic reindeer food. And you would sprinkle it on your lawn. And I realize in retrospect, like how horrific for the environment, just dumping glitter
Speaker 2Your loan is. But I was very charmed by the idea at the time. What a waste of oats you , cause you can't do, you've mixed, glitter in with the oats . You can't give those to horses or reindeer or any sort of hooved animal .
Speaker 3I think that the thought behind it was, they were magic oats for magic deer that ostensibly don't operate by the exact same, like gastrointestine.
Speaker 2But I'm saying as adults who know that magical reindeer, we're not going to eat any of this stuff. Like they just sent oats and glitter to just people's homes. And they were like, put it on the lawn kids and for your parents in the environment and any animal that eats oats and can't have these now I'm sure this is great for the birds and the local wildlife like Wolf, not to sorry, not to harsh. It's a very cute idea in theory. But my horse girl brain is just like, was like, what ? Now always you are here by banished from the studio horny. Santa's the Anish me again,
Speaker 3Stop.
Speaker 2I'm not , uh, capable of being fake horny or sexy in the way that our dear friend Sean Hendrickson is , uh , this is why I am not a professional game master, you know , or dungeon master.
Speaker 3We all have our place in the friend group.
Speaker 2Mine is just being sexy. Naturally. This is true.
Speaker 3Mine is the one who's like, you know, from a cake decorating standpoint, there is edible glitter. So you could have just done that would have been safe for wildlife. You still get the Christmas magic in there and it's not an eco disaster. Why didn't you stop them? I was like eight we'll figure it out. Okay, cool. Let me just go back in time, go find my eight year old self be like, Hey Jordan, I look exactly like you don't worry about it. And don't worry about the fact that a complete stranger just pulled you aside. Very intently. I know you've been told to freak out about that, but this time it's fine. Don't tell your parents, you know, I'm from the future. And the one thing you need to know about the past is that the glitter that they give you at the dance class was bad for the environment. And then I come back to 2020, I think if I could go back in time and talk to my younger self, that's probably not the word
Speaker 2I I'm sorry. You feel that way about the ecology of the Tri-Cities area of Washington, you know,
Speaker 3That's , that is the real problem with my hometown. That is the most pressing ecological
Speaker 2Issue . Definitely not any of the nuclear,
Speaker 3The most contaminated nuclear site in the country. The glitter's definitely number one. We'll deal with the uranium later. Yeah. Anyways. Okay. Yes. So shall we do some questions? Yeah. Lead us into it. All right . I'm just going to pop right in with both my feet at one.
Speaker 2Let's jump right into that chimney,
Speaker 3Keeping it festive. Thank you so much, Lex. So what is your favorite and least favorite part about having ADHD during the holidays? Or like getting through the holidays with ADHD? And this is the question for me. It's for about the bus .
Speaker 2Okay. For both with , sorry, again, I have no idea what's going on. Uh, this is very fun for me. Probably a nightmare for Jordan. Do you have things you're ready and
Speaker 3Have sure. Do you want me to do that? Will you think of something? Yes . Okay . So
Speaker 2You have caught me, caught me in my, in my act here.
Speaker 3Got you . I got you. That's why we're, we're co-hosts sweet support and lift each other, like a good bra, which is coincidentally what I would like for Christmas. Cause all of mine are worn out anyways. I would say my least favorite part about the holidays is my boobs.
Speaker 2Sorry. I was just trying to think of something to add to the broad conversation and that's all I got.
Speaker 3No, my, I think my boobs are up there more like close to the favorite part of yeah ,
Speaker 2Yeah, no, sorry. I think I was just like, I didn't actually listen to any words you said there was just a slight pause and I was like, now's my chance.
Speaker 3Did you get it? Did you get the in? Yeah. Okay . I mean I did. Okay. I did. Do you feel better now? Yes. Okay. So what's your, what's your favorite part? Um, well was going to be my least favorite part first , so we could like end on a positive note, but yeah. Okay. You know? Yeah. I mean that's yeah. Okay. Yeah. So my least favorite part is my tendency to over-commit definitely shows up during the holidays and I always get very ambitious with like, I'm going to do all these holiday events and this is the first year we've managed to Mayo, Christmas cards out after like three years of wanting to do
Speaker 2Well and I haven't even done it yet. We don't have enough stamps. I'm so sorry. It's okay.
Speaker 3And buy some more support the U that's going to be fine, especially with like making Christmas gifts because I love making Christmas gifts for people, but I overestimate the time and attention I have for that and underestimate my ability to just buy things on the internet.
Speaker 2Do you have any specific examples of , uh, making things for people that maybe haven't gone the way you planned?
Speaker 3I mean, I definitely have yarn in my suitcase right now for projects that I started before I lived in Chicago. So I bought this yarn intending to finish a project and then move to Chicago and I didn't finish it. So I carted the yarn 2000 miles out here to Chicago. And I'm now taking it back to Washington unfinished.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. Well, we also have a sewing machine in the apartment and uh , if I recall correctly, there was some sort of,
Speaker 3Yeah. I try to make a difference. The sewing machine broke and then I fixed it and I finished the paper and it was fine. What are you talking about? I don't know.
Speaker 2Oh, okay. That means something about that story. Doesn't seem quite, doesn't quite jog with my memory. Can you can maybe just give me like a few more details to see if I can , uh, you know, just really get that mind meld between us going .
Speaker 4So I very graciously drafted by myself and began making an apron for your boyfriend for Christmas last year. And I got very close to finishing it before Christmas and then the sewing machine broke and after Christmas it just kind of didn't seem like a huge priority and then the pandemic hit . So there were not a lot of places to take the sewing machine to get it fixed. Um, so it was about naturally I think when we got it sorted out when I finished the paper .
Speaker 2Yeah. So , uh, but what , uh , cause we went there, I think it was down on like the S like West side, somewhere kind of near Logan. Uh , what did they say? Cause you, you , you went in and then you came out pretty soon after that. I was just re parking my soup. Yeah .
Speaker 4They said that , um, the insides of the sewing machine had been replaced by chicken livers, which I just didn't understand, but they, they cleaned it right out.
Speaker 2And you know, I, I seem to remember that , um, Oh, sewing machine wasn't actually broken that , um, the , uh, the needle was just, or the, was it, the needle was in backwards,
Speaker 4You know, I could see, I could see how that could happen to somebody. If they bought a used sewing machine on like Facebook marketplace. Cause it was all they could afford. And it was a very old model and they weren't used to working with that kind of sewing machine before. And they were working really quickly and trying to get the stupid apron done. So like, I could see how that could happen to somebody really understandably. Um, but no, it was chicken.
Speaker 2Yeah. So , uh , one more question. Uh , what did, what did my boyfriend get? You, you got me a t-shirt from, from who ? A band in Seattle. How much did he, he gave it to you before Christmas, right? Or after Christmas. Around Christmas time he did. It was, it was it, was it good Toto? It was one of their new merch shirts from last year's collection. It was,
Speaker 4You will, you will note, listen, there's he didn't make it. He's not a t-shirt maker in Seattle. I deserve some credit here.
Speaker 2Oh no, you didn't have so much credit. And it is a great apron. You did finish it. You gave it to him in the summer. It was wonderful. He loved it. I just love to tease Jordan about this and we don't have to put any of us in.
Speaker 4No , it's it's, it's totally fine.
Speaker 2But I just need, need to know that I may be the like registered certified him bow of the two of us. But Jordan does have
Speaker 4Sometimes I just have to carry the weight for you. And I will do that for you because it's , you're my best friend.
Speaker 2Yeah. When you saw that there was only one set of footprints in the sand, that's where the Himba carry .
Speaker 1So
Speaker 4Some times people just get surprised gifts in the middle of the year, and I'm sure that that's very fun for them. And sometimes you try your best, but despite that your sewing machine is still filled with chicken livers, what can you do? Nope. Yeah . Well, thank you, Bobby Yaga . Thank you so much for that special, special gift. I will not question it too much. Yeah .
Speaker 2Well you do have a book called ask Baba Yaga. So we probably could ask Bobby Yaga some things. I don't think that there's anything
Speaker 4In there about chicken livers, but maybe
Speaker 2There is now, Oh , the Baba Yaga works in mysterious
Speaker 1Ways.
Speaker 4So what are you asking Baba Yaga for, for Christmas this year?
Speaker 2You know, I would love to ask Bobby Yaga how to get those big, tall chicken legs to carry me around, you know? Yeah . I have very short legs and I am not a very tall person and I can't move very quickly.
Speaker 4This'll like replace your legs with chicken legs or just a full nother set of chicken legs. Like, like stilts, like stilts or like a cart that you just sit in. Or maybe it's like one of those little scooters that you have in PE with the four wheels on the bottom, except instead of the wheels. That's chicken legs. I take it back. It should be the third one. Cause that sounds dope.
Speaker 2I was just imagining that I could learn how to make my own home in the woods with legs.
Speaker 4Also a decent option, also decent option, but I like my scooter thing better. So
Speaker 2Yeah. I mean the good news is that you can ask Baba Yaga for a chicken leg scooter. I will, I will do that. Chicken leg. Scooter would be a good band name. Oh yeah. It was . What kind of music do you think they play Scott ? No Scott , but Scott , but
Speaker 1Go on shoegaze . Oh, I should've seen that coming. Yeah. Can you imagine just
Speaker 2Wall of sound that blurs together and you need earplugs to listen to safely, but with horns .
Speaker 4Yep . Bye Brian, David Gill .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 4With legs that long, it's a long way to gaze , you know, or, but here's the thing. Hm .
Speaker 2You have a much wider gaze it . Think of that vantage
Speaker 3Point. True. True. You could gaze that so many shoes. Yeah. Wow. We've just, we've just broken the genre. Right? Open regrettable .
Speaker 2And add on top of that though. You're not even going to get distracted by your own shoes cause you won't have any because chickens don't have shoes.
Speaker 3Good point. Good point. So
Speaker 2You can just, you can put all that energy into looking at other shoes.
Speaker 3Possibilities are endless. All right. Now that we've been doing a bit about , uh, Baba Yaga for like a couple minutes, have you thought of your favorite or at least
Speaker 2Favorite part of the holidays? Yeah. Uh , so my favorite thing about the holidays is the, okay. Now hear me out. I'm hearing you the fact that know , okay, this is very region specific to not the United States. Okay. Uh, and so this is a very specific favorite of mine because when I lived in the UK, the Christmas time that I lived in the UK, every place that I went in public, every place like any sort of shop store, public transpo, any sort of public place, the words and vocals of Paul McCartney just washed over me. And it got to this point where just so much emotion, like a mixture of annoyance and rage, what also holiday cheer. And also some level of, you know, the song isn't that bad, but wow, it's really, wow. It's really everywhere. Huh? They play this song all the time. I'm pretty sure that's the only Christmas and or holiday song that the UK is legally allowed to play in public spaces. Paint us the full picture.
Speaker 3Sure . Let us in on your , your UL tide , right ?
Speaker 2What song are we talking about? Oh , that would be wonderful. Christmas time by Paul McCartney. Incredible. If you don't know, keep it that way. I was going to say, does that song have lyrics
Speaker 3Other than simply having a wonderful Christmas time? Yes it does.
Speaker 2Yeah. I mean, that's just the chorus, but if that's what haunts your dreams it is then, you know, I think that's all that matters. That's the only part of the song. And that's real to you, you know, into your mind's eye. Yeah . Just rolling into a Tesco grabbing like , uh , a chicken wrap for lunch and I may be grabbed some, a Cadbury , uh,
Speaker 3Mm . Or like a kinder egg,
Speaker 2You know, may hops , uh, maybe some
Speaker 3Chocolate oranges, like a bounty bar or something.
Speaker 2Probably probably get my Phanta orange Fanta. That's completely different from Phanta here in the United States and so much better. And I walk up to the checkout counter and then it starts and you just look up at the employee and they look up at you and you know that they've been here the whole day and that this song has probably played once an hour on the hour. And you know that you will never know that level of pain, but you are still experiencing it. And you have this shared moment of Paul, what have you done to us? But also we're in the United Kingdom. So we , we gotta, we gotta play it. So wait, was that your favorite or least favorite? So that's probably one of my favorite things because the , okay, so hear me out though. That's why I say , hear me out, hear me out because you know, I set the stage for that. My favorite thing is that you have that experience where you're just walking around and that song starts and you, you just look and everybody physically bodily rejecting this song, but at the same time, everyone is so resigned to their fate because they're British. So just like the trauma bonding. Yeah . Paul McCartney check , do you help do ? Yeah. Yeah. So that's probably special. Exactly. Thank you. I, so that was probably, that's probably one , my favorite holiday things. And now obviously I don't live in the UK. So just seeing some of my friends from the UK, like tweet about it or just like occasionally seeing people will post about it on social media that I don't know, but who are based in the UK. And I'm like, Oh, it's that time of year. That time of year when everyone wants Paul McCartney to be somewhere else. And lo and behold, you find out he lives in the Southwest of the United States. What? Yeah . Yeah, sure . Him and his wife live in like Arizona or something. Yeah. Let me Google it to make sure. I mean, it was like Viggo, Mortensen, Viggo, Mortensen lives in , uh , Sandpoint, Idaho. It's like our thing, I think, well, how do people famous people from the UK are like, what if I just lived in a really remote, weird area of the United States? All right . I've been saying points . Nice. Yeah. Shout out to Hunter. If you're listening for showing me around, that was a good time. That's very, very lovely area. Buh-bye to Hill . Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very, pretty, very, pretty good place with good soup there too . Kimberly it's called though. Does the season for that too? Oh, okay. Hm , nevermind. So he doesn't, I live in Arizona now, but he does still own a ranch in Arizona. And I think occasionally visit that's arguably weirder. Yep . Uh, but least favorite thing is probably the obligations. I know that's a wide array. That's, there's a lot of things that we are all obligated to do. But I'm specifically talking about the expectation that you will be at. Everybody's separate family and friend based Christmas and holiday parties while I do enjoy a good hootenanny. I get so burnt out by the, of required socialization over the holidays. Uh , so I know that that's really a rough one for me. That's definitely more related to ADHD and RSD or not RST , ADHD and emotional dysregulation for me. But like that is probably my least
Speaker 4That's super fair. That's super fair.
Speaker 2And don't get me wrong. If I could, this year have all of those obligations, I would much rather be grumpy about having to attend big gatherings, then isolating by myself in Chicago. So, you know, give and take. But normally that is my least favorite thing. There you go. There you go. Thank you so much for that. Shall we hop on the next question? Yeah. Let's Nope. Nope. No Christmas metaphors came to mind. Quick enough. Let's do it. Let's just go. What are you asking Santa for, for Christmas? A Nintendo switch.
Speaker 4Santa's gimme, gimme the
Speaker 2Nintendo switch. I have long suffered, not having a Nintendo switch
Speaker 4This whole time. I'm so sorry. This whole time you were in so much quarantine without an Nintendo switch. How did you survive without animal crossing?
Speaker 2Why am somehow here? So I don't know. How have I survived? Who's to say who's to say yeah, no, I mean, it's a , it does seem. Hm . I do feel like whenever I tell people, Oh, I actually don't have any consoles. I only use steam on my Mac book. The amount of people who know me and know what I'm like about video games are like, wait, what you, don't what, and there's this sort of moment of disconnect. And I'm like, I have the heart of a gamer, but the wallet of a normal person in the year of art
Speaker 4Lord 2020, and the aesthetic of somebody who carries her on a MacBook pro. So,
Speaker 2I mean, that's not really an aesthetic choice. It
Speaker 4Was just , uh , the best option at the time sort of thing. That's fair. That's fair. You just looks, you know , sleek,
Speaker 2I guess. Yeah. I didn't really think too much about the aesthetic of a Mac book, but now I feel curated. Thank you. You are so, so welcome any day that cool . Okay. Bye. Everyone. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah.
Speaker 4So it's w it's just me and
Speaker 2I'm back. Um , I got over it. So what did you ask Santa for? Hi, what did
Speaker 4I ask Santa for? I wrote all this stuff that
Speaker 2You asked me the question I was like, I didn't what , uh , uh, it's like when my mom, this year, I was like, do you have a Christmas list? And I was like, do I have a, what I asked for a cool blanket? Nice. I asked for
Speaker 4A gift certificate to a hardware
Speaker 2Store or store
Speaker 4Oh, crafty Beaver, probably nice. So that I can build a bench and , uh , some cheese in a can. So yeah, that's about right. There you go. There you go. I do, I do want to follow up and just be like really clear with people that I'm not asking for general in a can.
Speaker 3I don't want anybody to put cheese in a can for me. I specifically want a wheel of Cougar gold, which is a very, very delicious chatter that they make at the Washington state university Creamery. And they put in a can, and it's a very special Washingtonian skill that I'm very good at to get a full round of it out of the can without breaking it and stopping it. Cause it's like sealed in there. So usually have like kind of pry it out with a knife. And I am blessed by the , the cougars, I guess ,
Speaker 2Got Dukes go kooks, I guess university of Idaho and WSU didn't have a rivalry or anything. So yeah,
Speaker 3No . Or just kind of like, Hey, what's up. They were right across the border from us when we were in Idaho. So Hey, they were just like there
Speaker 2And B that's where the weed was. Sure. And still not legal in Idaho. So where do you think all of the U of I students go,
Speaker 3But what they did have everywhere across borders was delicious, delicious Cougar gold. And I miss, I miss it so much. So that's what I ask Santa for, for Christmas, with some cheese in a can 10 out of 10. Thank you. What would you recommend to somebody who is trying to buy a gift for an ADHD person? What do you think would be a good Christmas,
Speaker 2This gift and what do they talk to? Like what do they talk about literally all the time? Like what are you almost borderline annoyed with them for talking about all the time? That's yeah. Like figure it out from there. Uh, if they've asked you for anything, do that. I mean, I guess like the obvious quote-unquote obvious answer would be like, Oh, I dunno, fidgets. And maybe like,
Speaker 3Just like, get that. Rubik's cube, love Rubik's cubes. Well , yeah ,
Speaker 2True. And they're right. Yeah. That's a bad example. Um, everyone should get a Rubik's cube for Christmas. No, I I'm imagining. Yeah. Like fidgets or, you know , good. Just get, get them like a planner.
Speaker 3What a rude gift. Unless you've asked for that, if be like, Hey, it looks like your a mess.
Speaker 2Merry Christmas, Hey, you really like lists and crossing things off. Here's a neat little booklet where you can just do that. That's fair.
Speaker 3I'm talking in the sense of like something that they did not ask for. Cause I would imagine if they were that into list, they'd probably already have a planner. I feel like that's just like Peloton
Speaker 2Marshall vibes. Yeah. But here's the thing though. If you have ADHD, you have more than one planner and you will be excited if you get another notebook or planner don't lie to me. Don't do it. Uh, no, it is it's uh , seems a little uncalled for, but when you say like, what do you, what do you get for someone who specifically has ADHD, right. And your gift shopping. I'm like, I don't planning stuff fidgets, but also like, it just depends. Cause ADHD is so varied. So my would be, I don't know , whatever they're hyper fixating on. If they haven't already broken their own bank accounts, filling out that hyper fixation
Speaker 3And the yeah . Yeah . That's a good one. That's a
Speaker 2Good one. Did you have any ideas to add to that little crack
Speaker 3Pat as its reputation is like gift cards. Great. Especially if it's for like something that they were going to have to do already, like getting their house cleaned or getting a , like something that takes something off their plates and they're like, Oh, I don't have to worry about making dinner tonight. You're like, Oh, I've got a gift card for a date night with my partner and we have, can go to a restaurant and have someone take care of childcare. Like if you can just like take a thing off of their plate, that's very helpful and kind. So that's the only other thing I would throw in there. Um, and the spinner rings. I think those are very cool fidget toys. Have you seen those? Um, I'm very into those. I did also ask Santa for one of them .
Speaker 2Nice. Yeah. And also you got for me,
Speaker 3We had, we had a couple of people wonder about how to deal with family who may not believe that ADHD is real or understand how it actually works. I think that this is probably expansive to like some other mental illnesses. If your family is like, well, have you done some yoga about it? How would you deal with
Speaker 2That? I'm going to let you take this one first.
Speaker 3Okay. Okay. So I think what I would recommend to people is go get a super soaker and fill it with vinegar. And every time somebody says something stupid, squirt them with it.
Speaker 2I got , uh, two birds, one stone. Cause it helps. And it's fun for you. Sounds like. So that's uh, yeah. Uh, no. Okay. So for real, I am pretty lucky to have a family that , uh, if they do think that ADHD is fake or what have you, they haven't said anything to my face, which is probably because I'm the type of person that if I'm confronted with S uh, you know, comments or questions, I personally get very disgruntled, may have even angry and I will pull out several facts and research studies to prove my point . And then if the facts don't work, which most often people will say that, Oh, I'll be swayed by facts. Most people are very rarely swayed by facts, which we can see everywhere all the time. But the most helpful thing in my experience has been to call on the like directly call on people's empathy and sort of directly call on the fact of like, at the very least, if you are not willing to hear me out on this and make space for, you know, my lived experience and how my brain physically works, you know, if you can make space for that, then at least respect to the boundary that we are not going to talk about it. It's okay to not talk about it. Is that that's , is that fair to say, like, it's okay to set that boundary. If it's something that's going to stress you out. Yeah. Uh , and if people aren't respecting those boundaries, it is okay to uphold those boundaries.
Speaker 3That's fantastic advice. Thank you. Thank you for that. Yeah.
Speaker 2I don't want to like toot my own horn here, but like the range between horny Santa and like family and friends confrontation, you know,
Speaker 3I got it. You're just really holding the show together. Thank you, Lex . I appreciate it.
Speaker 2But thank you. Thank you so much. Um, but also, you know, yeah. Just, just squirt them, squirt them with vinegar,
Speaker 3But thank you for that, Lex. That is actually very helpful and thoughtful advice. I hope that that helps you out this evening .
Speaker 2Thank you. I have spent a lot of the past re a few episodes being absolutely useless. So I got to put my weight somewhere and if it's conflict resolution,
Speaker 3One of us needs that skill because I don't have it.
Speaker 2That's actually, yeah. I actually do have some pretty decent communication and confrontation and conflict resolution.
Speaker 3Hell yeah. I'm very thankful for you on that front. I am so direct. I'm the opposite of that, where I'm very much just like, I'm so sorry. I must have scuffed your shoe when you tripped me. Do you want me to like, pay for that to get it polished? Like, are you good? So yeah, I appreciate that. We can, we can balance each other out here.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. And to clarify this, isn't one of those things where I just am super pushy and confrontational and Jordan just like, lets it happen. That's what we know . So I just want to clarify, but just generally those are sort of the vibes that we have
Speaker 3Generally. Yes. Yeah, no, we we've. I feel like at this 0.2 years and a podcast and we've kind of figured it out.
Speaker 2Yeah . We found an equilibrium in front of balance.
Speaker 3We yep . Yeah. The book
Speaker 2And the China shop emerge unscathed.
Speaker 3I was not sure where you were going with that metaphor for a second. And I was like the bowl like that. We, we pass around like the bowl of cereal, the bowling ball, but okay. Okay. Yeah . I mean to your credit,
Speaker 2I also did not know where that statement was going to go.
Speaker 3We, we emerged from that on skates as well. So it comes full circle. Uh, so do you have any new year's resolutions?
Speaker 2No survive. Uh it's 20, 21 soon. Time's not real. It's not going to be better just cause it's not 2020, not to be a downer, but like, I don't know if I, technically my resolution is just going to be like survive and work harder to make things better for everybody. I don't, you know, but that's sorta just like I never do because I am famously bad at following through on things. I don't know if it's [inaudible] .
Speaker 3Yeah. Any other , any other ADHD people have issues like following through on goals?
Speaker 2Yeah, no. Um, yeah, no , uh, I don't commit to things like that anymore because I know that if I want to do something, I will do it. And if I make a commitment to do something that doesn't mean Jack. So fair enough. Uh, my general resolution all the time is to just try to be less of a Dick and alright , generally, just try to make it to the next day, you know, just try to not get Regina George in the road here in Chicago, you know, try not to.
Speaker 3Yes . That's a good new year's resolution. I was going to say by this point in the year, I think probably most bus drivers have used up their three kills, but yeah, that's definitely
Speaker 2Met their quotas, especially this year. I bet they've been really just, I bet a lot of them spent them a little earlier. Yeah. You know, but then that all resets so good. In addition , you're right. Don't get hit by a bus. The three kill quota cannot confirm nor deny if that's a real thing. Here's the thing.
Speaker 3It is. It's a real thing. I met a bus driver. I've met many bus drivers. I take the bus a lot, but this legitimately happened to me. I was taking the 36 Broadway bus southbound and I was getting on the bus ride as they were switching drivers over. And the driver was kind of , you know, Josh and or whatever. And he was like, Hey, you want to drive? And I was like, sure. You know, joking around and joked about getting in the seat. But I didn't obviously, cause I'm not going to do that. But you know, I didn't, I don't know how to drive a bus, sorry to disappoint. And the bus driver, I kid you not says to me now, be careful. You only get to hit three people. And I was just like, I knew it. And he looked at me like I knew something I should know. And it's real. The CTA three kill policy is real
Speaker 2By it. I mean, that's not like explicit proof, but it is compelling. It is.
Speaker 3And I w I will also say bus drivers go through a lot. I think that they've earned it .
Speaker 2Who else could get a three kill quota? Hey , retail and food service workers.
Speaker 3I think they should be able to kill anybody. Who's rude to them.
Speaker 2Yeah. If you're a customer, if you've ever been a customer, if you ever plan on being a customer, the customer is never. Right. That's what you need to know. So what you need to understand, if you've, if you know, you know, if you've worked on the other side of things, I always
Speaker 3Feel so bad going into stores and having to interact with employees. I'm like, I'm so I'm so sorry. I exist. I'm so sorry. I have to be here. I'm so sorry. But I ,
Speaker 2You can confirm this as someone who also works in the service industry, when you see customers who are clearly also industry workers, in some sense, you know, because they don't suck, but yeah . You know what I mean? Like they are like, Oh no, it's okay. No, thank you so much. It's okay. Don't please, please stop . You've never done anything wrong in your life. And I am the scum of the earth for just stepping in my foot, into this whole foods versus the people who, you know,
Speaker 3I have never worked a surface job in their lives and you're just like, excuse me, one moment. Ma'am I'm going to go scream in the walk-in. Okay .
Speaker 2Yeah. Same, same, well, okay. Not the same similar energy to actors who have never worked behind the scenes. Oh God. Yeah. You can tell immediately. And one of those things that if, you know, you know, you know, I remember my time as an ASM, just backstage, two of the actors started tap dancing, like during the wings, I think it was during tech. So like arguably worse than if it had been when everyone's super stressed. And I was like, y'all need to be quiet , you know , take the headset. I'm like, y'all need to be quiet . You need to be quiet, quiet, quiet stern . Most intimidating whisper. Yeah, exactly. Uh , and they were quite sassy about it. Was this a tap show? No, it was, Shakespeare's a Midsummer night's dream. They were barefoot and they were tap dancing so loud. So they were just stomping . Yes. They were just stomping backstage. Yes. No. Um , yeah, I wish I was good Lord. But also like if you've been an assistant stage manager, you would get it. Yeah.
Speaker 3I say this as somebody who got their BFA in acting actors are the womb .
Speaker 2Yeah. And do all of my, you know ,
Speaker 3Dear friends that I still have from that program who listened to the show. I love it.
Speaker 2Yeah. I also , I know most of you have also backstage, so you're exempt from that. Yeah. No, it's it's yeah. Yup .
Speaker 3Speaking of new year's resolutions. Oh yeah. What's yours. Um, yeah. My new year's resolution this year is to get crafty. There's a lot of crafts that I really want to learn. I've been wanting to get better at embroidery. I've been to learn a little bit more about painting. I I've water color painted, but like people,
Speaker 4Oil, paint techniques and stuff, her painting cakes. And I've always thought that
Speaker 3That's really cool and learn how to make gum paste flowers. And I really want to get into woodworking and learn how to build a guillotine.
Speaker 2That's very good. I was like very confused. Cause I was like, you're talking about crafting. You make so many things already. You're already quite crafty. Like we often have craft nights together. I mean, I still do want to know that . Yes, yes. I was mostly just like, this is a resolution, but I see where you were taking us and I'm right behind . Yeah . Great.
Speaker 320, 21. We're coming for you . So do we want to take some
Speaker 4Listener questions? I told you you had to leave. No, no, no,
Speaker 2No. This is actually just , um, so
Speaker 4Do we want to take some listener questions? Um, yeah. Gimme the audience questions.
Speaker 2Do you want me to do audience questions?
Speaker 4So thanks so much to everybody
Speaker 3Who wrote in it was wonderful to hear from all of you. Uh , we hope you'll keep sending some questions in, but our first question is from Marissa and she asks which cat is more likely to laugh at your jokes net or root beer.
Speaker 2Oh honestly, neither. They would never laugh at us. They would never give us the , uh, justice stain complete just on fathomable depths of annoyance. Yeah. They're not fans. Uh, and yet they do snooze in the blanket, Fort studio, every time this was true. It was true. But if we do something that we think is very funny and start laughing quite hard, they will both just look up from their curled up positions because
Speaker 3How dare we disturbed their slumber ? How
Speaker 2Dare we disturb their slumbers when they came into this space we were already in,
Speaker 3But it's their , it's their house still. So we're just making a mess in their space and getting in the way of their naps and doing other things that are not petting them. How could we,
Speaker 2I think if we're going to anthropomorphize the cat's a little bit root beer would be the one to laugh first more like more likely. Cause I think Ned wouldn't even Ned would just be like, Oh , I can't, I can't.
Speaker 4And would just leave versus root beer .
Speaker 2Just be like, like a little disdainful laugh and then leave. Um, yeah , I can't argue with that. That's a great question though. Thank you so much, Marissa. All right . That's my cousin Mark .
Speaker 4Hi, murmur Marie , please tell
Speaker 2Pips and Lloyd. Those are her dogs that I said hello? Yeah.
Speaker 3All right . So our next question is from Cal and Cal asks sometimes when I try to explain something that I do or have done as a result of my ADHD, I feel like I'm treating ADHD as an excuse for quote unquote, bad behaviors, like being late to things. And when asked, why explaining that it's due to time blindness, what are ways that those of us who are neurodivergent in some way can explain our behaviors without excusing them. And that's a great question.
Speaker 2I do love this for context. Cal was the stage manager for that Shakespeare
Speaker 3Production
Speaker 2Manager for that's how , uh , Cal and or Kelly and I met. Do you want to take a crack at it? Sure. Cool.
Speaker 3I think the first thing that I would say is there's power in being honest about your story and saying, Hey, here's why this happened. I have time blindness, because I think that that's, that's your story. That's the truth. And I think that it helps people understand and get more familiar with what that actually means and learn that that's just how people are. And I think that maybe something that can help make that a little bit more proactive of an apology rather than sounding like an excuse is saying sort of like in an interview when they're like, Hey, what's your biggest weakness? The important part is not the weakness. The important part is saying like that. You're aware of it and here's what you're doing to navigate that or to remedy it. So it's totally, totally fine to be like, Hey, I'm so sorry at time blindness. Sometimes that trips me up, but I am doing best. Or like, Hey, I have time blindness. I usually set an alarm, but it didn't go off today or something like that. I think if you just like any apology, make some effort to say, here's what I'm going to do better next time. That to me, at least if somebody were to say that to me, that doesn't sound like an excuse at all. And I think too, it's worth noting that with ADHD. And I also know that this is a part of my experience with depression. There's a voice in your head. That's going, Oh, this is an excuse. This isn't real. You should just be able to be better. And that voice is lying to you. That voice is foolish . So I think that just being honest about your truth and making it clear to the person that like, whatever you messed up on or whatever you missed is still important. That's, that's more than enough. That's my 2 cents on it.
Speaker 2No, thank you so much. I think that's great. And that's a great question, Cal always, always amazed by how well-spoken. Yeah, that's a fantastic question.
Speaker 3Yeah. I
Speaker 2Guess like my , my thing that I would add is given the context I know for me, I will often get trapped in sort of a explanation spiral where I'm trying to explain what's going on and also in my head I'm like, but I don't want it to sound like an excuse. So I'm like making co you know, adding caveats here and, you know, putting some context in here and, you know, then it becomes this whole big thing. And I think something that I know I could stand to remember is that given the context, like, I would say, especially when it involves like work or school or , uh, sort of like quote unquote societal obligations like that , uh, my 2 cents would be like, it's fine to just not
Speaker 3Explain yourself. Sometimes that's a very good
Speaker 2Point. Like, especially, you know, kind of gauge the , the crowd, is it where , if it's people who you aren't super comfortable with and they are, you know, they aren't entitled to your time or your explanations or even your excuses. So , uh, even if you feel like you're making excuses, like no matter what you feel like you're putting on the table, you don't necessarily, Oh, everybody, everything all the time. So I think my advice would just be to like, take a beat in that moment, reflect a little bit and be like, we'll talking about this help or harm the situation. Will it be helpful to me and them or just them or just me, you know, kind of figure out what the motive is. And I think that kind of directs what comes out a little bit. That's
Speaker 3Awesome. I think that that's a very important caveat. I know I do the same thing. So thank you for that. Yeah .
Speaker 2Apparently my big thing, this episode boundaries, boundaries are real important. Then again, you, the whole idea of like rugged individualism. You don't ever show anybody anything in that. Like we should never give or take or interact with people and , you know, reciprocal ways like that's too. So like don't get carried away, everything in moderation, all that good stuff. But for this situation specifically, I know that I overthink a lot of those things
Speaker 3[inaudible] was talking about. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2I know that for me, something that's helpful is just being like, what if I just say X thing happened? I don't even need to necessarily apologize unless they're like upset about it. Right? Yeah . And just be like X thing happened like the other day I was late to work because I was stopping for gas and there was a couple in a car next to the same pump as me. And they had apparently been stuck there all night. So I was like, Oh , I've got, you know, I have cables. I'm going to help jump their car. So instead of being like, Hey, sorry, I'm going to be a few minutes late. I just didn't apologize. I was like, Hey, I'm going to be late. I'm helping someone jump their car and you know yeah. But , but you know, like you just, sometimes you can just tell people things, you don't need to apologize for everything. Cause I know that's my, I do. So that's usually how I try to mitigate that is just taking a beat. Yeah . And being like what's actually necessary for this human interaction that I'm having that will make for the clearest most accurate communication. And then I go from there.
Speaker 3That's awesome. And that reminds me of some of my favorite advice too, which is no, is a complete sentence.
Speaker 2[inaudible] so there we go.
Speaker 3And , uh, that is the end of our questions, but we do have one more , uh, holiday DHD story. Uh, this comes to us from the wonderful Kevin. Hi Kevin. Thank you so much for writing in this makes me feel a lot better about my sewing machine thing.
Speaker 2Oh, Oh, okay. All right. All right. Kevin I'm listening. And Kevin says in 28
Speaker 3[inaudible] I bought a Christmas gift for my niece and nephew. I was supposed to go to the post office and send them and I'd never did. I wrote a short story adaption of Billy goat, gruff and her Christmas adventures and printed and bound it for context. There is also a Billy goat doll that Kevin sent in a photo of that was supposed to go along with this book. Incredible Billy goat. Unfortunately never made it in the mail because I kept forgetting even with multiple reminders and eventually Bailey became the, I have desires and pleasure for my little dog Harriet and I didn't dare send Billy after that .
Speaker 2Oh boy. Okay. So I have some followup questions for you, Kevin, if I may , um, you know, contact, contact us at your leisure, you know how to get ahold of us. Uh, when you say Billy became the, I have desires and pleasure for Harriet, do you mean in like a cute dog chew toy sort of way ? Or do you mean like on a leg of a stranger sort of way?
Speaker 3You know , I think I can answer that one. Uh , because Kevin did send me the , the photo of the Billy dog that has , um, it's a little dirty. It's definitely been , uh , used and not in a gentle kind of way.
Speaker 2So Billy was you, you just said Billy was used like , uh, excuse me. Um, so it sounds like you're , you're
Speaker 4Dog got a very satisfying Christmas present,
Speaker 2Works out , I guess what a mood though for getting to send it .
Speaker 4So this is Billy [inaudible] and there's like, I see, I see. Okay. Challenging,
Speaker 2Challenging ideas and material that you have brought to this show. Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 4Um , Walter relatable, just never sending things, mood.
Speaker 2I really didn't know where you were going to go. I did not know what you were going to say was relatable. I did worry for a moment. Uh, no, no. I have for sure. Forgotten to send things. I mean our Christmas holiday mailers, this is year three of living together and we finally made it happen. So we did , uh , what next year, I guess would be your three-year Mark. I really hope you don't send Billy. Oh yeah. Um, I'm assuming you won't but I do just want to like,
Speaker 4Well, the , the last sentence of the story is I didn't dare send Billy after that. So I think that Billy is , is well and truly Marriott's .
Speaker 2Oh yeah. I would say that Billy has been marked,
Speaker 4Wha what's the line from Gina ?
Speaker 2That's one doodle that can't be on dead home.
Speaker 4That is one doodle. That can't be anointed. Unfortunately we do have one more .
Speaker 2Oh, okay. Hold on. The amount of restraint that it took to not just scream throughout that whole story, do you need to get it out? No, no, I , I repressed it so, so well, and that like scream, laugh was what was left of it, but from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, Kevin . Thank you so much. Like I said ,
Speaker 4It makes me feel a lot better about the sewing machine thing.
Speaker 2Yes. I can see how that might happen. I also, you know, when I, when I step back and I take a minute, I am I'm , I'm really happy for Harry is Shirley happy for Harriet? Anyways, may you all find the Billy to your Harriet? If you want one, if you want one and two , all a good night, we do have one more question.
Speaker 4Okay . And that is from the wonderful Mattie
Speaker 2Maddie . Yeah. Thanks so much for writing in Maddie asks,
Speaker 4I feel like this is, this question is maybe a long time coming and I'm so glad you asked. I don't know what this question is. And I'm a little nervous. So Maddy asks have either of you ever actually taken our par core class and or would you ever want,
Speaker 2So here's the thing about me and par . What's
Speaker 4The thing about you and park , please, please tell I'm actually incredible at it. Wait, really?
Speaker 2Who are you? You're done with my roots . I mean, okay. In my defense, I do skate. Uh, but that's not even remotely the same as park hor . I did , uh, plenty of climbing on buildings and stuff in my youth. I have done quite a fair amount of jumping. Yeah. I competitively dance.
Speaker 4I thought you were going to say you competitively jumped. And I was like, I mean, that's the thing is, is that a thing?
Speaker 2Have you never heard of high jump or long jump? Uh, yeah . Literal sports. Those are competed in the Olympics and.
Speaker 4I forgot about those, but
Speaker 2I'm here with you. Yep . No. So I'm okay to my excitement and probably detriment and ultimate demise. I am not at all afraid of Heights in that way. And I, I am decent at balance and coordination. I know that the way I speak and everything else about me, you might assume that I am deeply uncoordinated and not even a little graceful, but you do all right for yourself. I would say , yeah , I would argue that because I am small and have short legs. You know, I grew into my body very early, so I've had a lot of time. That's a good point. I competitively danced. So , uh, I competitively danced. I skate, I like Heights. Jumping is fun. So you would take a bar core class. I would, but I'm not taking any in-person classes right now and shut that down. No worse. Yeah. But you're doing like a physical activity. And even with a mask, the particles that can shoot out of your little gab
Speaker 4When you're with a mask would be deeply unpleasant,
Speaker 2Especially cause like, my head is so small that like, unless I was wearing a little kid mask, I mean, you've seen it. The masks always slip up almost over my eyes. So like I gotta be real careful. Yeah. I think that would make it very dangerous. That's a great question though.
Speaker 4Wonderful question. I also have never taken a parkour class . I am bit less sporty than Lexus , so I would definitely give it the old college try, but I can't say that it would go well, I am pretty good at climbing trees though, which you wouldn't guess from someone who grew up in a desert that didn't have them, but
Speaker 2Playground equipment. Yeah. I know for a fact you are almost a demon when it comes to
Speaker 4Playground equipment . This is true. This is true. And I will own that. I will own that as a badge of honor. So , uh, to definitively answer your question, Maddie . No, neither of us have taken a par core class, but I think we both would. I'd give it a go. Yeah. Maybe that's maybe that'll be our new year's resolution is take a bar core class for the comedy, if nothing else.
Speaker 2Sure thing. If any of you are Parkway experts. I'm so sorry. Oh no. I was just going to hit us up. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4Please learn . Please do our ,
Speaker 2Got to learn. We can end this podcast once and for all the final boss, we can't learn part quarry yet. We are not at that point in the plot. Oh yeah.
Speaker 4I haven't. We have so many more quests to go .
Speaker 2Lots of character arcs, lots of side quests. Don't forget the quintessential beach episodes.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, yeah. But maybe someday once we conquer podcasting, we can take apart core cloth .
Speaker 2I'd be into that. Yeah, I'll do that after my sword fighting class. Dope. Dope, dope. Right on. Well, that was all of
Speaker 4Our audience questions. Thanks again to everybody who wrote in that was a wonderful Christmas present for us. Do you get to answer those ?
Speaker 2Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I am so tired. Y'all I'm so sleepy and I'm just sitting in this very cozy, warm blanket for, with a big old fluffy blanket wrapped around me. And I spent all of my, just a raunchy energy with that Santa's bit at the beginning. And then I think the story about Harriet and Billy just really took it out of me. Well, so like we can go ahead and wrap this one up soon, but before we do, Oh ,
Speaker 4Do we want to do one last , uh, dopamine trampoline for 2020? Yeah. Right on let's hop. Let's hop on, on that dopamine trampoline. And uh, do you wanna , do you wanna share with us what's uh , making you, making your hop. That's weird. Don't like that. Do you have something you would like to share with the class this week?
Speaker 2Yeah. So , uh, if I recall correctly from the two discussions we had about the step sewed beforehand , um, the dopamine trampoline theme of this week is not just like one big fixation. It's just like XYZ sort of favorite things about the holidays. Yeah. We're just gonna, we're gonna keep it festive. Yeah. So I just have like a short little list and here it is,
Speaker 4Throw it at us. I'm so ready.
Speaker 2There are three things on this list. I'm so ready for , like I did this approximately five minutes before we started one green bean casserole, baby it's that time of year with casseroles, casseroles are such a good communal food. They are so tasty green bean casserole is in my opinion. This is just my opinion. If you don't agree with me, that's fine. I don't want to hear about it though. I will not stand for any green bean casserole. Slander. Not in my house. No thank you. But green bean casserole is the superior casserole and I'm from the Midwest. I feel like my Heartland credibility is through the charts or shoots through the roof on that. So I'm right. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4I mean, you do have maybe short legs in real life, but pretty long legs to stand on. And so far is the validity of your casserole opinions . That's
Speaker 3Yeah, I hear that. I hear that. And I, that is, I will say one of my, I guess I can't say favorite things about living with you, but one blessing of living with you is blacks makes the green bean casserole for our holiday festivities every year and they just make a quadruple batch and I don't have to do anything. I just get the splendor of green bean casserole in my fridge for like two weeks. Yeah . It's incredible.
Speaker 2Probably more like one week because I do just eat the leftovers every day for every meal until it's gone. I also do not follow the recipe. I follow where my heart takes me when it comes to those little French fried onions. Oh yeah. Um, number two is a French fried onions. No, cause that's in green bean casserole. Okay . I just said green beam , but in my defense Jordan and I, when talking about green bean casserole by ourselves and our unintelligible communication in this apartment, we always go green beans, green beans, green beans. Yeah. So we, I don't, we don't speak normal words to one, another English
Speaker 3Nonsensical mess of a language. Anyway, I think we've kind of just done it a favor and put it out of its misery.
Speaker 2I think it's a , it's a miracle that we have managed to make a podcast and not completely,
Speaker 3But we can still put it in the English language category. Yeah .
Speaker 2Yes, yes. Uh , number two, wrapping presence. Uh , yeah . Going back to the Santa thing. I think , um, part of the reason that I never really had a huge belief in Santos , probably because I do most of the Christmas present wrapping for my mom most years, obviously not this year because my mom's a busy, a busy gal. She's got stuff to do. Uh, notably she used to be a social worker. So I think she, you know, she is a sort of retired sort of like secondary caretaker for all of the nieces and nephews, you know, she's, she loves her grandkids and all that, but she did used to be a social worker. So like when I first started learning how to wrap presents as where her job was. So I don't blame her for being like here , small child, who's very active and very creative here use that energy and fuel and put it into this for me please. And I did. Uh , and so I, I love the detail that goes into wrapping presents. I love the molding things with my hands is nice. It's that good, tactile experience. But I just, I like making every present, look a little different, a little, you know, a little bit unique to maybe who the presents for, if it's for the nieces and nephews, we sometimes divide things up based on like, Oh, like this, this kid will get, you know, the, these wrapping papers and like these sort of color stories. Right. Um, you know, I turned into like a Pantone ad or something it's wild. Um, so I just , I really like wrapping presents and same sort of thing of like, I like making people presence like you , uh, I also have a track record for being like, I'm going to make them something, but instead of just not it for a while because of chicken liver and my sewing machine, I , uh, I just will be like, Oh, that's not gonna happen. Uh, and okay, here we go. Target order Amazon, maybe let's see , uh, you know,
Speaker 4At St my old friends . Yeah. I will say though, you do kind of go off with the wrapping . They always look very, very good. And the detail is there.
Speaker 2Thank you. I was really proud of your birthday present this year. Yeah . Uh, the third thing on this list, and my favorite thing about the holidays is Jack Black in the movie, the holiday, if you don't know what the holiday is, it's a wonderful holiday romcom from the early aughts, starring Jude law, Jack Black, Cameron Diaz, and Kate Winslet. It's a fun little mix of British and American culture. And it's full of some interesting, somewhat problematic ideas, you know, as is every piece of media that comes out of the two thousands, but mostly it is sweet and cute, and really gets me in the spirit in a way that a lot of other holiday media doesn't , um, and Jack Black in that movie going absolutely off the to be the man of my dreams basically is just really rude of him. Honestly,
Speaker 4He's very charming in that moving so charming.
Speaker 2Uh , and then just generally, it's just, it's just a fun, silly movie. It's also sweet and cute, and the chemistry is amazing. The storyline is cute and fun, and there's lots of big faces and names in there. And yeah ,
Speaker 4You showed me that movie the first time I watched that was with you. Wow.
Speaker 2I forgot about that. Yeah. So
Speaker 4That's, that is a great holiday memory for me too. And I love, I love the storyline between Kate Winslet's character and her neighbor who is an elderly man. Who's retired from filmmaking and , uh , they just have to stay the sweetest friendship in the world. And it's so, so dear to see a friendship be treated so honorably in like a romcom, and they're just, they're just very charming together. They're very fun and it's, it is such a fun movie. And that is, thank you for showing it to me
Speaker 2At movies is where I first really understood the meaning of the word gumption. And when I realized I am full of it. So
Speaker 4There you go. There you go.
Speaker 2That kind of stuff is really my jam. And also who can say no to Cameron Diaz, incoherently singing along to Mr. Brightside fell really in the middle of nowhere in an English cottage. Um, it's , it's really good. Uh, yeah, so that's, that's my little quick DT . What about you? Well , speaking of holiday,
Speaker 4Rom coms, my dopamine trampoline this year in the theme of keeping things fasted is my new favorite holiday romance. And for context, I've not really been a like holiday romance movie person before it's. I felt my favorite genre
Speaker 2Can probably guess that based on the fact that you had never seen the holiday until you lived with me, and we've only lived together for about two and a half years,
Speaker 4This is true. This is true, but I have in the spirit of , of research and then the spirit of getting in the season, I suppose, been trying to watch more of them expand my , uh , holiday romcom repertoire. And I did find one that is actually very much worth a watch on Netflix called midnight at the Magnolia. And I will say, I think that a significant part of the appeal of midnight at the Magnolia for me is just that it's very meat and it's horrifically specific to my area of interest because the plot is about two radio hosts in Chicago who have been childhood best friends. They have a radio show together. They have to pretend to date in order for the new year's special episode of their show to get enough audience, to get syndicated, and also to sell enough tickets, to keep the venue where they're holding it a float and the venue where they're holding it is a jazz bar that their dads who are also best friends, co own good, incredible, Oh, wow. It's like kind of everything that I want in a movie. Would you
Speaker 2Say probably everything you want in your life,
Speaker 4Hey, Alexa, be quiet, shut your mouth. Um, it's, it's just a , a very niche setting. B all of the friendships in it have such good chemistry because there , their dads are best friends and it's the cutest in the world. And then like, they're best friends before they start dating. And it's actually clear on the actors chemistry instead of not being like weird stilted hallmark movie. We're a white man and the white woman. So we must kiss energy . Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2Oh, no. I know. I just , Oh ,
Speaker 4But they're like funny together and they have all these little traditions and it's just like, it's a very sweet friendship and it's definitely a little bit cheesy. Uh , I think that they filmed it in Ontario. So they have these like, you know, wide shots of places around Chicago. And then they're in these apartments where you're like , um , yeah, no, you couldn't afford it .
Speaker 2Yeah. Oh, wow. Like both like live
Speaker 4Alone and these like nice new one bedroom apartments,
Speaker 2Radio host . I was like , uh, well, Hey Hollywood, well, Canada. And I'm just saying, but like, Hey, like people who make movies and stuff, could you like try to live like a normal human being spoiler
Speaker 4Alert? There's no money in the audio medium whatsoever.
Speaker 2Yep .
Speaker 4But like, it's just very sweet because it takes, obviously takes in the whole movie to realize they've been in love with each other the whole time, love that there's a straight up jazz band in the end. It's great. Their manager's very funny. She has a very good haircut and she's just so lost in the whole plan, but trying her best. And I respect her. I think my only complaint with the movie is that I don't want to spoil it, but there's a character about the guy kind of had a thing with in high school who like comes back and she should have been gay. She should , she should have been like, you were the last guy. I dated
Speaker 2Just sprinkle some representation in there, or just like, was there a plot line you were invested in like, what's the,
Speaker 4There was a like weird last minute romance with the high school X character and like some other random dude who shows up in one scene. And it just like would have made a lot more sense for that to not happen. And for there to have been like a little bit more clarification on what the main guy and the high school X's dynamic was now. And I think that her just like having a girlfriend would have made all of that made a lot more sense. I didn't sprinkle in some representation in there happy holidays lesbians. But other than that ,
Speaker 2Except for that movie, you know, you know? Yeah, yeah. So many opinions. Okay.
Speaker 4Yeah. So that's my dopamine, trampoline is midnight at the Magnolia. It's a fun little romcom to , uh, get in that holiday cheer. That's what I got.
Speaker 2All right . He ha ho thank you. You're so good .
Speaker 4Welcome. Before we do sign this one out, wanted to just say thank you to all of you who have tuned into the show. This is our last episode of the year. We'll be back in January with a little bonus episode before we start rolling into new content. But , uh, it means a lot to us that all of you have tuned in and spent the last like six months now , uh , hanging out with us and we hope you have a wonderful holiday.
Speaker 2Right . I'll echo that. Uh , thank y'all, you know, we just hit a thousand downloads this week. It's wild. Yeah. Wild. So thank you to all of you. Who've been sticking it out and sharing with friends or, or anything like that. And we just really appreciate each and every one of y'all . Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4Thank you. Yeah. We'll you will , uh, see ya on the flip side, but not by way of Parker . We can't do that, but this has been or learn park Corp from wholehearted production company.
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Speaker 2By sharing with friends or family or whomever strangers on the street. Right .
Speaker 4Perhaps appreciate that a gumption, you can also support the
Speaker 2Show by sharing with friends, family strangers on the street. What have you could leave us a review or rating on iTunes or , um , what were the other ones
Speaker 4We're also on good pods and pod chaser where you can , uh , leave us some reviews.
Speaker 2Yeah. And if you're really, really feeling the spirit of giving, which if you're not totally fine, we get it, but we do have a [inaudible] , uh , and you can find a link to that in our link tree, which is in both our Twitter and Instagram bios. That is correct. Yeah. Uh, before we completely dip though, you had mentioned something and I I'm very sleepy. So there's two things that I really want for this holiday season. It's two things I would really like for Christmas, from you specifically, what
Speaker 4Are those, how can I make your dreams come true?
Speaker 2Uh, the first one is to end the episode relatively soon so I can go to sleep. Okay .
Speaker 4But the second one, yeah.
Speaker 2And far more important right now in this immediate moment. Gimme that holiday. DHL
Speaker 4D dad joke, boy. Howdy. What I love too. And this is the last ADH dad joke of 2020. So
Speaker 2Cheers, bro. I will drink to that
Speaker 4Puck a lot. So two folks with ADHD are sitting at a local diner, catching up, having some hash Browns probably. And , uh, their conversation is all over the place as it usually is. And they , uh, circle around to cooking. And one of them says, yeah, God got a cookbook once. And , uh, it was neat, but I could never do anything with it. And the other one says, Oh yeah, I like too much, you know, fancy cooking stuff in there. You know, too many steps in the other. And the first one says, yeah, you know, you said it, every single one of those recipes just doesn't work right off the bat. They all start take a clean dish. Ouchie . Yeah. I felt a little bit called out ouchie after that last ADH dad joke of the year I'm Jordan and I'm Lex. And this has been the last episode of 2020 of oral Lorne park war. We will see you in two weeks. I'm going to go to bed and social. All of you
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