Or, Learn Parkour: An ADHD Podcast

OLP 017: Bewie, We're Home

April 26, 2021 Jordan Rawlings & Lex Kathryn

In episode 17 of Or, Learn Parkour- Jordan and Lex talk holistic  ADHD treatments! Join us as we connect to our higher vibrations and discuss the various ways people have told us to fix our brains, what's worked and what hasn't, and pitch our own ideas for some additions to the Goop store.

Thanks for listening!

CW/TW: Mental health, ADHD, explicit language, loud noises, yelling, rambling, mouth noises, garbled speech,  bleeped swears, singing, diets and diet culture, disordered eating, discussions of food, reproductive organs,  bodily functions


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Speaker 1:

There is a dog[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

Jordan and I'm Lex, and this is or learn par Corp. It's a podcast about ADHD and sadly not poor core. Although I did meet someone recently who used to do par course, so maybe, you know, we can get them on for their expert advice. The times they are changing or learn, parkours actually about par core. Yeah. Never thought I'd see the day co cool. I haven't heard that name in years. Just the good old Matthew McConaughey. I was like, yeah, that was my smoking impression from someone who was clearly never smoked. But that's what that was for anyone who was wondering, well, that was my dead on in personation or impression I should say of Matthew McConaughey and true detective. Thank you very much. Oh, you nailed it. Thank you. So welcome back to the podcast. We do it every other week and it is about ADHD and we both have ADHD, which if you don't know now, you know, now, you know, but also if you didn't, it's pretty clear, pretty obvious. We're all over the place all the time. Speaking of all over the place, do you know where I was today? On another podcast today? Yeah. Oh yeah. I thought you did another podcast like two weeks ago. I mean I did, but the episode came out today. The 21st I see, I was like, when did you record what you've been at? Work, all that. What? No, I've been slowly needling my boss at context, I work in marketing that we should start a podcast production off shoot. And it finally worked. No it didn't. Well, I was like, wow, this is where you just, okay. It's just setting on this. No, no, I wish someday I'm still holding out. Hope. I'm holding out for a hero till the end of the night. But last weekend I got to chat with the wonderful new Dean from special needs supermom podcast. And the episode drops today. The day we're recording this, which is the 21st. So by the time this hits you, dear audience, it'll be super duper out. Come out. Okay. Go listen to what it was fun. Maybe it's great. Okay. Come on. It's Donny. So that's awesome. So stoked to listen to that myself and hear Gerardo's lovely, lovely voice and opinions and thoughts. Most likely in a much more coherent and intelligible fashion.

Speaker 3:

It's still me. I still have ADHD.

Speaker 2:

So like you don't have me there though. You know like you, you at least had a fighting chance. You didn't have the negative brain cell leaching away at you.

Speaker 3:

I think you're giving me too much credit. Okay. That's fair. But we'll leave it up to you. Dear audience, go take a listen, let us know what you think. Vis-a-vis chaos levels. And then come back and listen to the rest of this episode, please. Because today we're going to be talking about

Speaker 2:

Out. That was like the weakest drum roll. Just do a roll. You know, just like there it is. Anyways, my nieces and nephews have my mom call me or FaceTime me more often than not to make my Wookie noise for them because they love star Wars and their aunt can do a decent Wilkie impression. That's me. I am the aunt who can do a Wookie impression. And my two year old nephew, he calls me BU baka baka. He can't say Chewbacca. So he calls me pooper watches objectively way better. Oh, not, not going to knock chewy.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I don't have anything against chewy. This is, this is a chewy friendly zone. But yeah, just the sheer power, which I think does exist must exist in context with the original Chewbacca, but the sheer power of

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no. Having a two year old look up at you and all in wonder with a smile slowly spreading across his little face as he just says poop. Ah, and then you realize the yearbook and now you are, I am become[inaudible]

Speaker 3:

You have received your

Speaker 2:

Assignee assigned[inaudible] at two year nephew's house. Um, so yeah, all let's say the drum roll back to that.[inaudible] we're talking about holistic remedies for ADHD.

Speaker 3:

Join us on this journey of health and wellness.

Speaker 2:

See how we can center ourselves, our essences and open our fourth eyes it's behind with third, but she didn't know that one had on aside where we are going to discuss how to fix and cure your ailment of ADHD,

Speaker 3:

Connect to your inner divine energy and become neuro-typical

Speaker 2:

Pull your finger out of your.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. That's that's a steaming Cracow

Speaker 2:

Pope. Yeah. I, in context, we've talked about holistic health before we don't necessarily have anything against the health, like sort

Speaker 3:

Of yeah, yeah, no, there are definitely like things besides medication that can help with your ADHD.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Nothing's going to cure it. That's not how that works. Well, and I think there's a lot of discourse going around right now about, you know, his ADHD, uh, disability. Like, is it a D debilitating problem or is it a gift or a super power? And I know how I feel about all of it, which is like, I don't think it's any of those things. And it's also all of those things and people are allowed to feel how they want to feel about their own brains. So I will leave it at that, but given the sort of discourse going around and the fact that it's April. So, you know, we got some good, good hippie holidays up in here, like earth day, uh, and also for 2020 mom. And you know, it just felt like a good time to do something that is a little bit less labor intensive for us because there's a lot going on in the world also. So, um, side note, take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of your communities because we got to do it or else nobody will clearly, but yeah. Yeah. So

Speaker 3:

Talk about some holistic or alternative ADHD techniques. And if we've tried them, if they've worked for us and just get everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. We're just going to get real crunchy. We're just going to dig deep. Huh?

Speaker 3:

I'm just going to put a handful of potting soil into my mouth.

Speaker 2:

I really didn't know where this was going. I was really afraid that you were taking us somewhere. I did not want to follow,

Speaker 3:

But a handful I've been a pile, a handful of weed in my mouth and eat it. That's how you do it.

Speaker 2:

It was honestly, honestly, and I think partially because your hands are in your lap right now and you made like a scooping motion towards your crotch. I definitely had a moment of like, is Jordan literally about to say on our podcast, I'm going to shove a handful of granola in my vagina, like what is happening? So my brain went there.

Speaker 3:

Maybe if I do that, do you think goop would sponsor this podcast?

Speaker 4:

Oh gosh,

Speaker 2:

That was that one got me. That caught me off guard. I mean, yeah. Gwenyth. I mean, I got a pitch for you and we also have Jola. We also went federal law granola for your vagina. Oh, I hate you. I hate that. I was going to say we have lots of like leftover wax from other candles, so maybe we can make something happen. Get at me, Gwyneth

Speaker 3:

Hit us up. Gweneth. We've got, I'm sure too many ideas for our own good. And I'm sure

Speaker 2:

For anyone who is a fan of goop or it's sort of a more, a devout follower of that lifestyle, you probably won't like this episode and you probably don't want to sponsor us, but yeah.

Speaker 3:

Already miles ahead of us. I'm sure you've already got that. That vaginal. The oven. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's true. Wait, so is the oven, are you meaning that in like the, is it like the uterus, like, you know, people are like baby in the oven or been in the oven and it's like a baby in a uterus. Like, is it the granolas and the uterus oven or is it in an actual oven or no, I guess it has to layer two, two hoops, two different types of ovens.

Speaker 3:

It was a play on words there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, both. Uh, I think it's super extra way funnier though. If I dissect it in great detail. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I think that that's do you have a feeling on kitchen oven we're referring to here?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I think it'd be like a double, a double layer onion, an onion

Speaker 3:

Anya. Hello. Don't put that in your oven.

Speaker 2:

A double layered oven, similar to cow's stomachs.

Speaker 3:

Oh, see, I was imagining process

Speaker 2:

Like different oven processes. Cause like when you like bake the granola to like make it,

Speaker 3:

I do want to, I do want to put a disclaimer here. First of all, don't try this at home, please. God, I am begging you. Second of all. If you do bake granola in a home oven to put in your personal oven, let it cool first. I need you to let it cool. First. It can't go straight from one to the other. You just, I just want to make sure we have that on record anyways.

Speaker 2:

I mean like we're not medical professionals, we're not psychiatrists therapists. We're not like legally licensed to do anything except be

Speaker 3:

And drove a car. We both have driver's licenses, but like, you know what, I'm he, we aren't professionals

Speaker 2:

Like anything at all. So we're really just here to commentate and also make fun of people sometimes. Unfortunately, most

Speaker 3:

Of the time it's us, ourselves.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But then sometimes people suggest things that we should try to fix, quote, unquote, our brains and um, uh, well, okay. So there's a lot, a lot of different things that I've been told, I guess.

Speaker 3:

So let's just get right into it, right? Yeah. Let's dive right in.

Speaker 2:

We have talked about different types of treatments that people are remedies. I should say that people will suggest a lot of them come down to just like doing different things, which is, you know, executive dysfunction. It's not a thing it's fine. Like drink more water, take supplements for your brain that not that you shouldn't do that. I don't know. Talk to your doctor, but I'm kind of starting out at the, the chill end of things. Of like drink more water exercise. Do you know some mindfulness sort of calming exercises and try meditation if you want, you know, like sort of generally vaguely good for kind of everyone. Yeah. Like again, like you said, vaguely generally, like we're speaking in very wide terms here, take that with a grain of salt, but yeah. So like you have things that I would say are the quote unquote like harmless end of the spectrum versus was it Turangi Cola or something, something like that. There are some, some Rancho gross stuff in for Angela

Speaker 3:

Hispana, which was, I can't remember if it was or poison. Oh, Oh yeah. No. Cause it was, it was tarantula, poison and chlamydia.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Like some sort of sex disease PIs. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, taking stuff like that to give to your child who has ADHD or electric shock therapy, which in some instances has shown some helpfulness, but most of the time it's not administered correctly or you know, people. Yeah. But I think the, the most harmful option out of that is more so what you were told not to do. So I know medication is not for everyone. I know medication doesn't necessarily work great for everybody, but it works for a lot of people and stimulants in particular work for a good chunk of people who have ADHD. And one of the big things, uh, in the sort of holistic movement in medicine is to discourage people from taking stimulants and generally prescribed medications.

Speaker 3:

Do they have specific reasons why

Speaker 2:

It's a quote unquote like unnatural, it's not organic. It's not, you know, all sorts of words, that's factually untrue, but because it's been touched by scientists somewhere in a lab and put into a capsule it's witchcraft of some kind that will, as opposed to the light totally on-site

Speaker 3:

As opposed to the totally organic non GMO free range, chlamydia PIs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And I know that this is a spectrum, right? Like not everyone. Yeah. I recognize. And I think you also recognize, like there are things that are, you know, generally helpful and yeah. Yes. You should probably drink more water.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. There's a time and a place or essential oils, but they're often not a substitute for

Speaker 2:

Prescription meds and

Speaker 3:

Medical intervention from people with doctorates. Yeah,

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I, I know that there are people who have doctorates in like holistic medicine. Really? Yeah. No like medically licensed doctors I think is kind of the yeah. Thing. There

Speaker 3:

Doctors, therapists, psychiatrists, that whole suite of individuals.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. People who had to go to like quote unquote med school, the things that they do sometimes get lumped into the sort of group of like, well, it's all bad because it's all unnatural. And if it's anything that comes from a doctor and it's not natural and it's not something that I can get from like my chiropractor, then it must be bad for you. And it must be bad in general and it must be bad morally. And I know not everyone makes those assumptions and leaps. I know a lot of people who are more on the holistic end of things who are still sort of open to traditional medicine and I'd say like I too, you know, if it's not clear, I am biased towards the traditional medicine in terms of like what I think works best for me. And what I think has helped people generally more. I, I do want to be clear of, like, I do have a clear bias against holistic medicine. Like this is just straight up goop. This is not your episode. I'm so sorry. I mean, I'm not sorry, but like, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, and there's, I think, like you said before, there's a spectrum and I take Adderall, I take stimulant medication and it works for me. I also go to an allergy doctor who gives me massages that somehow cure my allergies and it works trug emoji. Yeah. So there's a spectrum. I think the thing that we just kind of want to touch on is that quote unquote traditional medicine is not inherently bad and to take it all with a grain of salt. Yeah,

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, for sure. And I guess to add onto that, every field is constantly evolving and especially sort of field of study surrounding neurodivergence because like a lot, a lot of us, a lot of us out here are not neuro-typical my friends, I guess we've kind of laid out the general gist of it, but I'm really what I'm really itching to get into though, honestly, is sort of what your personal experience Jordan, as Jordan has been with either what you've experimented with, uh, in terms of holistic medicine or if people have told you to do or not to do things, I'm curious to hear your sort of experience with that. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I mean, I feel a little bit lucky in that I had literally zero exposure to ADHD until I was diagnosed at the ripe old age of 24. So I didn't have a whole lot of people really chiming in and I've been able to be an adult and choose my own adventure. And you know, I have heard the things like don't eat red food coloring and these essential oils will cure you. And some things like that, but I feel lucky that I've had this perspective of like all of those things are a part of the tool arsenal to deal with ADHD. And some of them are effective tools and some of them aren't. So like I've heard that there are some diet things that are helpful. I have taken it as an excuse to eat fish and that's enough benefit for me that I'm going to keep doing it. Cause I do like fish. Okay. Yeah. But for me, I mean, like I know that I needed prescription medication to get myself to a place where I could even try any of these things. Like I don't think exercising is bad advice. I don't think changing your diet is necessarily bad advice. Like I said, I think there's a time and a place for essential oils, but if I am just sitting on the couch and I am so overwhelmed by executive dysfunction that I can't move, I can't exercise. I can't, you can't do yoga. I can't do yoga. I'm not going to delay my cell phone fish. Like I know that I needed that for my baseline and keeping diet in mind and keeping active along with a bunch of other really tangible things that may or may not be, but are alternatives to medicine, like building routine and understanding how I fidget and what kind of stimulation makes my brain work the best. Those are all kind of secondary tools that I can use, I guess. Does that make sense?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. That was a very, very serious answer and very, very informative. Um, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Thank you so much. You're so welcome. I feel a little silly now. No, no. What has your experience been? Well, I,

Speaker 2:

I made a list earlier today of different things that I've been told to do to fix either my depression and anxiety or maybe DHD. Um, and we talked about this a little bit before, but my depression and anxiety I think are pretty clearly linked to my ADHD. So we're just going to kind of blanket sort of the quote unquote list of things that people have suggested to fix me. Quote unquote. Um, let's see. Uh, I've been told to try drinking coffee, cut out coffee. I've been told to try cigarettes. Um, cause they're a stimulant. Um, yeah. It's like you're frustrated. Cut it off. Yeah, no, there's some interesting. Yeah. I will not make a judgment as to whether these are good or bad. I will. Yeah, that's fine. You can do that, but I'm just like, if this is anything that y'all do out there, do you, you, do you keep them yeah. Try cigarettes. Um, to drink at least 72 ounces of water a day, which I'm five foot five, that's a lot of water to put in my body.

Speaker 1:

I'm not that large.

Speaker 3:

Would you have a person you pretty much just have to, like, I think dog's sprinkler

Speaker 1:

All day with a hose

Speaker 2:

And then like just out the other end the whole time, just like an endless cycle. I've been told that I need to try yoga Pilates that I should really get into running. I've been told to try eating more iron food. Cause maybe I'm iron deficient. I've been given so many different types of supplements. Uh, I've been given cradle Kratom, CRA CRA, I dunno. I always say credo. How did that go? Um, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Yeah. I mean a few of these I have tried. Um, and then, uh, the, the big thing that I always hear is about like, well, if you were just eating, you know, gluten free, dairy free and following, you know, a strict paleo diet, uh, or, you know, maybe if you tried intermittent fasting, have you heard about intermittent fasting? I feel like that could like supposedly that can really help with brain fog. And I think maybe you're just experiencing some brain fog. These are things that people have suggested to me, real people I personally have struggled on and off with disordered eating patterns since I was like 17 or 18. So there's a lot of that advice that is directly related to how I look and how my body is functioning and what I can and can't do physically whether it's or exercise. So I know that I also sort of have a biased gut reaction against the sort of holistic medicine trend because so much of it comes from people in my life and times in my life where, uh, my, my weight and my appearance and my inability to do certain things sort of drove my worth. Right. So I have a very, very, a negative reaction when people suggest things to me from that sort of end of the spectrum. So I do want to sort of explain why I'm so hostile towards holistic medicine.

Speaker 3:

I think, you know, if intermittent fasting works for you, that's fine. But if you suggest intermittent fasting or any kind of fasting, you're dieting to someone with an eating disorder, you're a bad person. Well,

Speaker 2:

To be fair, not everyone knows. Right. You don't put those things like you don't know. Yeah. You don't know if someone has an eating disorder or not. So like maybe just don't maybe just don't tell people what to do and how to do it. Yeah. And I realize we're just telling you how to do and how not to do like talking to other people. But I feel like that's, you can't tolerate intolerance. You know, like you have to be intolerant of intolerance, sort of that's a, that's a wild connection there, but it's sort of that same idea of like telling y'all to be chill, stop telling people what to eat and how to eat and what they should be doing for their bodies. You don't know them and you don't know their bodies. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

This is a sidebar. But on the flip side of talking to people about their weight and ADHD, like the number of times people went like, Oh, did you lose weight? And I have to be like, yep. Because I'm on amphetamines. It's

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Don't comment on people's appearances. Like if I have a booger in my nose or a fuzzy on my shirt, like if it's something that can be solved within like five seconds.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. And tell me, or if like, you know, somebody has been trying to lose weight and they want to hear that. That's a different thing,

Speaker 2:

Melissa. Just stop. Just stop that. Thanks. It's the meth. What D w yeah. It's Dr. Meth. It's the doctor version of the myths.

Speaker 3:

Dr. Meth. It's like Dr. Pepper. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God. And I will say, like, I've tried a lot of those things on that list because a lot of the time when I heard things like that, I really internalized that. So I know that I personally have tried a lot of those types of things. Did they work? That's the thing is like, I don't think so. In terms of like how you would think they would work right. While we are, we are

Speaker 3:

Still here. You do still have ADHD.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. No. I mean, well, it's not something to cure. It's just my brain. This is how it is good or bad. It's my brain. And I can love it for the things it does well, and I can be angry with it for the things that it doesn't do well. But the, the other, the main thing that I've tried, that I have a very clear memory of how it went. Uh, when I tried crate, um, it's a stimulant sort of plant that is like crushed up into powder and you can either drink it or just con like, like I did take it in capsules and it's, quote-unquote like a natural stimulant. Sometimes people call it the holistic Adderall. So I did try create him in grad. And I will say it was doing a lot of help for me, like focus wise. But I also was feeling like it definitely spurred me on towards like the manic sort of end of the spectrum. I remember I went for a run after, like, I woke up, took some cradle and like my antidepressants as well, and then like ate a light breakfast, went for a run. And like, I remember being on that run and feeling like I was like, I have never been this good at running. I feel like I'm flying. This is awesome. Wow. Like, I'm really just, I'm running, I'm just running. And I just like went for a really like a good run and I felt great. And then I got back to my house and I walk into the dining room and then I immediately, like, my legs started shaking and they just sort of gave out and I just vomited. So, um, I haven't tried crate him since then. Um, I would say it's probably something that you will have to decide for yourself if you want to do that. I've also tried like different types of like holistic diet pills. And I've tried doing the whole drinking, just a ton of water. And after three days, I was like, I cannot do anything else because I'm literally just going to pee all the time to my whole day heart. Yeah. No, like my whole day was just. Like, that's not quite true, but like, I really, it was a noticeable, like, Oh my God, I have to go to the bathroom so much more. This is so not sustainable. So I stopped trying to drink 72 ounces of water a day after like three days in. So I think part of it, right. I never gave any of those things, like a whole hearted, like here I go, I'm jumping in with all feet. All feet. Yeah, sure. I mean, all two

Speaker 5:

Feet. I'm just going to say who's

Speaker 2:

To say where the other feet are, but the cradle one, it, honestly, it was pretty funny. I was like, I started laughing, like after I came up for air, I was like laughing a little bit. Cause I was like, this is so stupid. I'm so

Speaker 5:

Stupid. Why did I take

Speaker 2:

A stimulant with like a banana and some almond butter and then go for a run and run for way longer and way more than I had leading up to that and then go home. Like, like there's like, I, I understand I'm not super intelligent sometimes. So like I get it. Don't at me. It's fine. I know. I know. But like, I don't know. I have tried some of that stuff and sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't, again, the stuff that helps us sort of the general like, Hey, this is suggested for most people like go for a walk, drink water, you know, like things that are generally good for most people. Those, those have been helpful. Yeah. But like the really specific things like, Hey, maybe try great decidedly. Not a great idea for me personally. That'll be, that'll be a Patriot park is doing great. I'm Oh my gosh. Yeah, I know. Oh, and the other thing too, is that people have told me that I should either smoke more weed or completely stopped smoking weed ever at all. It just kind of depends on who's giving me on solicited advice that day.

Speaker 3:

So it sounds like there's a lot of conflicting advice.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And I wouldn't say all of those are necessarily holistic medicine. I should be fair there. Yeah. But like, I just made a list of things that people have told me to do to try and quote unquote, cure myself.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I mean, have any of those things worked for you or turned into something that's helped? Long-term obviously, as I think we've hopefully made very clear, nothing is going to cure an ADHD brain. That's not how that works, but has anything helped? Long-term

Speaker 2:

No. Okay. I'm in like maybe, I don't know, I'm sitting here like thinking about it and like, I think it's also hard to sort of like looking at myself now because this whole year has just been so different. Oh yeah. Like this, this whole past like year plus has been so different for all of us. And so I feel like I'm not even the same, not that I'm not the same person, but I don't do the same things. And so like, it's hard for me to think back on like physically what I did and like what, you know what I mean? And also like, I don't remember what I did like three days ago. So like, yeah. That's fair. Cause like now I'm like, well, I go to work and when I'm at work, I try to do some working out there in my office and then I come home and sometimes we'll do a podcast thing. Sometimes I'll play D and D sometimes I'll play video games. And then I repeat. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we are both very, I suppose, young in our ADHD journeys as it were. Oh yeah. That's also fair. Is there anything that you want to try

Speaker 2:

Take? I would love to try like psychedelics and stuff like that. Um, but I think that a lot of people like there's a Venn diagram overlap between holistic medicine and people who are nuts about holistic medicine versus people who like love psychedelics. There is an overlap there. Not completely though, but like since there is an overlap, I'm going to include that and say, I would, I would give that a go. I think it's really interesting. And I think that a lot of the science involved in psychedelics and what people have been able to study at this point, it's very intriguing and not in a cure your brain way, but in a like helps to, if not rewire, like loosen the mice.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. There's evidence that it changes the way that the pathways in your brain are working.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I would be interested in trying that, but yeah. What about you? Oh, also sensory deprivation tanks. I would love to go get my self in one of those. I don't know if that's a thing people have suggested for ADHD specifically. Sometimes people who are into holistic medicine are really into like sensory deprivation tanks and stuff like that. I would love that. I would love to give that a go. I would hate that I would hate every second of that. I would love to just completely dissociate into like a molecule to be, be tight. I don't think I would come back from that. It'd be so tight. This is probably also a good indicator that you shouldn't try the psychedelics. And I should probably,

Speaker 3:

I mean, I am very open to seeing what research comes out of that. I think that that's awesome option. It seems like it's been really helpful for people. So I'm not judging psychedelics at all, which is not for you. But I would also every time I think about doing psychedelics, I think about this story that I read online when I was in like middle school, on one of those weird self publish fiction, online story websites about this drug called[inaudible] where like people want to readability parties and there's this card game or something that you played. And one person won the card game every night and it was like big deal. And they got to take her deputy and it was supposed to be like the best high of your life. And you felt like you were exploding into the soul of the universe or whatever. And then your brain melted out of your ears and you died. Oh yeah. And I know that that's not what would happen, but I, I think that it would metaphorically melt my brain and I'd probably look at a piece of honeycomb or something and have a panic attack. Cause there were too many holes. Yeah. Okay, cool. So you do that. Yeah. And I will eat more fish, tight, tight. We have dopamine trampoline this week. Oh. Or was yours was your psychedelics again? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Do you have a dope, main trampoline this week? Should I, should I jump on up there and you want to hop on after me? Yeah. Hop on sick. It's very short and sweet and to the point, but um, my domain trampoline, I want to talk about this week has been family dinners. We do family dinner in our apartment now. Not always, but like when we're able to, we've been taking turns, making dinners that have lots of leftovers. So we have like food for like a good chunk of the week. And that's been helping both of us make sure that we eat in the first place. And then also make sure that we're eating food that we made. And for me, like eating out less and for Jordan remembering to eat and like, you know, but also just like to have some intentional roommate BFF time. So that's mine is family dinner. Oh. And my favorite family dinner thus far was, um, and I know that I'm probably supposed to say so many made, but it was when I, when I had a talk,

Speaker 3:

I think that's probably awesome. My favorite family dinner, I was just thinking the other day like, Oh, we should.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no taco night is such a good stable, but yes, that's mine. Awesome.

Speaker 3:

A good one. It's also reminding me that I haven't eaten dinner yet. Oh no, let's get, yeah. I'll hop on here. So yeah. I'll, I'll wrap this one up so that I can go eat the leftover Indian food. I have. I'm very excited.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. No. Jordan ordered Indian food and texted me and was like, Hey, I'm ordering Indian food for lunch. Do you want anything? And so I had leftovers waiting for me when I got home.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's true, mate. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, sorry. So I'm going to come get you to that. Yes. Uh, and because I think we're on the theme, we've touched a little bit on diets. You talked about dinner. I'm going to go do that next. My double immune trampoline is also going to be short and sweet and food-related, this might be good for an ADHD brain. Cause there are some like healthy fats in there. It's got sugar, which is like a immediate dopamine hit. It tastes good. It tastes good. And what tastes good in this case is a Rawlings family specialty snack, which is two slices of Seattle sourdough, sourdough bread toasted. One side has, or one slice. They end up together. It's not like this is a two faced sandwich. Cause that would be hell right. That'd be a defeat. The point of a sandwich entirely. Uh, the Earl of sandwich would probably come back from the dead let's

Speaker 2:

Well, it's not invite the like sandwich chart discourse, right?

Speaker 3:

This is not about sandwich chart. This is about like the spirit of the Earl of sandwich. Who's a person. Cool. So, but it's

Speaker 2:

Two different slices that come together. Like a sandwich. I'm assuming.

Speaker 3:

Yes. You take your slices of bread on one of them there they're toasted. Did I say that? Yes. Okay. They're toasted. And on one of them you put crunchy peanut butter. Don't ask me if you don't like crunchy peanut butter. Don't want to hear it. This is how we do it.

Speaker 2:

Well, and if you don't like peanut butter at all, you can hang out with me and you think I'm weird for not liking peanut butter. Congrats. There's more for you. Get over it.

Speaker 3:

If you don't like peanut butter, you can hang out on the other side of the sandwich, which has Nutella. Okay. And you sandwich them together with the Nutella and the peanut butter facing. I want to make that really clear. I it's, I don't, it's just, it's really good. It's got a like sweet salty, crunchy sour from the sourdough. It is very important that you do it on sourdough. And it's just, that's what makes it a Rawlings family specialty and not just a sandwich. Yes. This is like, it's this specific. Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2:

The entire Rawlings family can cook. Really good. So if they say that it's something, that's a Rawlings family specialty, you shut up and you eat it and you enjoy it because it's going to be good. Unless, you know, you don't like peanut butter anyway.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. You don't have, you don't have to eat it, but more for us I guess is the story. But yeah, I don't know. That's like a snack that my parents came up with and then like started making us and it's not a brand of sourdough that I can get out here so I can kind of make myself one, but it's like not ever quite the same as like when I go home and my parents make one for me. Yeah, no it's about the family bonding. It is. Yeah. And that's what I got today.

Speaker 2:

Nice. Well thank you. I, I feel weird. Right? Cause it's like, we used to have really, really long episodes. And now this is our second episode where we're actually like forcing ourselves to try and make shorter episodes because, uh, it's easier on us for editing and probably easier on our audience for like paying attention. Yeah. So like, it feels a little goofy to be like, all right, well that's the end? And it's like, Oh, we only have like 45 minutes of audio recorded. Huh. Interesting. Because normally we would get near like two hours. Uh, so on one hand I'm like, Hey, nice. We managed to like do this pretty pretty quickly. But on the other hand, I'm like, this feels weird. Why are we ending so soon? But we are ending. So thank you so much. Yeah. We

Speaker 3:

Do got to do the outro first. We still got a little bit farther.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, I know, but like I'm letting everyone know that we are, we are, we are done. Now. We are moving on to the outro section. If you would turn to page 300 and that, and

Speaker 3:

Has been or learn park or from wholehearted production company,

Speaker 2:

It sure has. And you can find or learn power Corp on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, you know, any place that you can get podcasts pretty much special.

Speaker 3:

Thanks to Krisha burrito for our cover art design. You can find her at pedal hop. That's P E T a L H O P on Instagram and Twitter. And

Speaker 2:

Thank you to Tom Rosenthal for our theme song. There is a dark place off the album. Keep a private room behind the shop, slap

Speaker 3:

Once laps forever. You can follow us on the social Meeds at Orland park on Twitter at we are WPC on the Insta or the grams, depending on what you prefer,

Speaker 2:

Just, you know, the worst website that's ever come to fruition. That's also the correct name. You know, it's not the worst.

Speaker 3:

This website that's ever come to fruition. Our website. Yeah, that is, we are WPC.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Go check it out. Jordan did some overhauling and there's some cool stuff up there. So go to our website, do it, do it, do it peer pressure. Yes. Uh, and you can find a link to that. You don't even need to like work hard because you can find a link to that same website and our social media and Tom Rosenthal's music and Cretia burritos pages all in our episode description.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. If you enjoy this podcast and want to hear more subscribe to this feed or follow it or whatever the button on your pod catcher of choice is click it so you can hear more of us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And if you really, really want to go the extra mile and be super supportive, you know, you could tell a friend, tell a family member, tell an acquaintance, maybe just yell at a stranger on the street to listen to Orla and park court and you know, point them our direction. Let's get some friends, let's get some more friends in this park. We're family. Oh. And also if you, if you feel so led, we do have a[inaudible] you can find a link to that on our website, on Twitter and on Instagram.

Speaker 3:

It's true. The one other thing that is worth mentioning that you can do that costs you$0 is leave us a review if you are so inclined

Speaker 2:

Review though, please, if you want to leave a bad review, I get it. But please don't like, you can, but I will cry. Yeah, you can. But like at what cost,

Speaker 3:

This is actually a great month to leave a great review. If you do it on pod chaser this month, they are donating 25 cents per review left on their website to meals on wheels. Through the end of the month, they will donate another 25 cents if slash when we respond to your review. So you can make our day and do some good for some people through the end of this month. It's an all kick

Speaker 2:

deal. Yeah. And that's April, 2021. So if you're listening to this after April, 2021, Lumpski you're like, you can still leave us a review and donate to meals on wheels. You just kind of have to do both of those things yourself. Yeah. Thanks for pointing that out. I personally don't really have any outro, funny, goofy stuff for you this week. Oh. But we got to have an outro question. I know. I was trying to think of one and then I sort of just, uh, Oh yeah. And one more quick thing before we, uh, take off here is, uh, again, just, you know, want to say, we love you all. We appreciate y'all and for all the goofs, like we are very thankful to, you know, be putting out this audio into the world. So thank you for supporting us and listening and you know yeah. Yeah. We, we love y'all and now I'm, I'm going to stop being a huge nerd. And um, yeah. I don't have an actual question, but I do have an outro ADH, dad joke. What? Oh, you ready for this? Oh, I think my microscope has ADHD. Why do you think your microscope has ADHD? Jordan? It refuses to focus. Pull your finger out of your. I'm Jordan. I'm Lex. This has been or learn par core. See you in two weeks.

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